IRC log of #harmattan for Thursday, 2012-09-06

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pa"module "CustomComponents" is not installed "  <- wtf? it was working last week00:04
paon simulator00:04
paok found00:13
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djszapi_seems I have not used my N9 long ago for package installation...00:27
djszapi_what is the way of installin a debian nowadays?00:27
djszapi_I do not know my root password, whatsoever.00:27
djszapi_I only know the developer passwor.00:28
djszapi_it does not have the user section either, so the package manager will not like it either without being root.00:29
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djszapi_oh it now worked, weird.00:32
djszapi_I changed my sdk password to rootme00:33
djszapi_and then that is also good for the root, weird.00:33
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ieatlintheh, so after announcing their new devices, nokia's stock drops 16%00:57
ieatlintbut i'm sure they're on their way to beating their record-setting quarter 2 smartphone sales in the US00:58
ieatlint(or, at least, they'll probably sell more than the 600k they did in q2)00:58
ieatlintso it's a bit of schadenfreude.. i don't specifically wish nokia ill, but i'm not going to cry about it either00:59
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djszapi_good night01:02
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admiral0ieatlint: new nokia devices?01:58
admiral0lemme guess win8phone?01:58
virtualdthere is no nokia any longer, it's just a new skin for microsoft01:59
virtualdor surface if you will02:00
admiral0microsoft is metamorph :O02:00
admiral0lol, 820 and 92002:05
virtualdis that the same as a polymorph?02:13
ieatlintthe hardware doesn't look bad, but i still think "metro" is a piece of crap02:13
admiral0virtuald: game of thrones02:26
admiral0virtuald: metamorphs - people who can control animals or even humans entering their mind02:27
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admiral0ieatlint: hardware for 920 is actually nice... unfortunately it has w8p on...02:27
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admiral0in the meantime02:29
admiral0enjoy the bashing02:29
admiral0he has some points though02:31
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M4rtinKnice! looks like A4M is back online :)04:28
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ScifigReflashed my N950 with PR1.2 beta, deployed public key to /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys but it keeps asking for password. Any suggestions?06:53
ScifigSame public key is working with developer account. Permissions for .ssh folder and private/public key file are same between /home/user and /home/developer06:55
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befordScifig: ssh-adduser ?07:15
befordther ewas this command I had to do in order to get it working.. something like that, let me search07:17
Scifigbeford: It says Identity added. But still password prompt07:20
Scifigbeford, Here is the debug output from ssh client side.
ScifigI don't know how to make sshd on N950 to print errors to syslog.07:26
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djszapi_beford: can you install the qt5-components on the device now?07:27
beforddjszapi_: just update it?07:27
djszapi_then it would be nice, if you could run the QmlComponentGallery example.07:27
djszapi_to make sure07:27
befordScifig: mm well it worked for me after using ssh-add07:28
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beforddjszapi_: errors07:38
djszapi_beford: what errors exactly?07:40
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befordhold on07:41
djszapi_yes, that is expected07:50
djszapi_what about the orientation?07:50
djszapi_ah, it does not even show up.07:51
djszapi_white screen, I guess?07:52
djszapi_k, ty07:53
befordany "hack" to get it running?07:56
befordor just wait for the next package07:56
djszapi_I need to investigate07:57
djszapi_but that will not happen any soon.07:57
djszapi_patches welcome, as usual.07:57
befordhow did you know it was white screen?07:59
befordI suppose the "offending" error is the ToolItem one08:00
djszapi_I am a mind reader. :)08:01
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befordtoo bad the qml is inside as a resource :P I can't edit it to check if it works08:03
djszapi_beford: you can08:12
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befordwithout recompiling?08:12
befordteach me master08:13
djszapi_beford: qml is there in the binary08:14
djszapi_as a readable txt08:14
djszapi_all it requires, is vi.08:14
befordI see, there seems to be nothing wrong on it but on the import08:19
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befordI got it running somehow09:13
befordhad to fix the qmldir from com/nokia/meego and com/nokia/extras09:13
befordthey contain repeated lines09:13
befordso i just sort -u qmldircopy > qmldir09:14
befordand I had to change 1.1 to 2.009:14
befordon the QmlComponentGallery09:14
befordsame for and QtQuick09:14
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befordthere is something wrong with the scrolling and clicks only working on part of the screen09:19
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ieatlintas i recall, when you "compile in" qml files as a qrc, it's not plaintext, but uses a simple (and easily reversable) algorithm09:26
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gabriel9|workfirst app bought10:57
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sneakyc4_anyone experience segfault or double free corrution? in libasound2 ?11:08
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, I double free corruption on quitting my app, but not on asound211:08
sneakyc4_expecially on snd_device_name_hint calss11:09
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sneakyc4_really frustrating11:09
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ZogG_laptopapps4meego IS back13:05
ZogG_laptopoh yeah baby :P13:05
ZogG_laptopit's back13:05
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ZogG_laptopin C i can't do stuff like if (65 <= value <= 90) ? i need to do if (65 <= value && value <= 90) ?14:50
trxi believe so, yes14:51
Kozzion a4m review application there is this "Should the application be in this application catalog"14:52
Kozziso does "this app catalog" mean Testing?14:52
ZogG_laptoptrx, didn't work14:54
ZogG_laptopit entered if with 109 :(14:54
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ZogG_laptopKozzi, first one?14:55
ZogG_laptopkoe, it means if it should be promoted from unstable to stable14:55
ZogG_laptopKozzi, vote for my app :P14:55
Kozziok just voted imgur14:55
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KozziZogG_laptop: any plan to implement imgur to share dialog like Dropbox?14:57
ZogG_laptopKozzi, maybe later, it needs a lot of work and his poor docs :(14:57
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ZogG_laptopi'll check phako's sources on how he did it with dlna14:58
ZogG_laptopbut again it would be anonymous so not sure how to return url for you :P14:58
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Kozziyup it would be difficult14:59
ZogG_laptopmaybe into notifications14:59
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ZogG_laptopor feed screen14:59
ZogG_laptopbut it needs a lot of work and i currently postponed 3 month project for school to last week14:59
ZogG_laptopso doing it now14:59
Kozzigreat prioritization :)15:00
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Kozziwhat a disappointment coming from Nokia, faking the ois video15:02
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Kozzinothing can be trusted these days15:03
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ZogG_laptoparcean, lol, you vote for apps wrong15:11
ZogG_laptoparcean, you voted for my app without checking to promote it - not i need even more votes to get it to stable as you didn't check the first field (second person who did it, and i hope second one by mistake)15:12
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Lava_Croftso i have some leftover moneys on my waste-account, whats a good app to support on ovi?15:23
Lava_Crofti gots about 2,50 euros on it>_>15:23
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pamine, but it is free :)15:25
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HurrianLava_Croft, cutetube?15:52
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Corsachhmhm, so after reading about potential power usage increase by developer mode, I disabled it, and it seems I went from 37mA (idle current usage) to 15mA16:14
Lava_Croftisnt cutetube free on fremantle16:16
Lava_Croftmaking me reluctant to pay for it on harmattan16:16
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ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, i think there is free version somewhere for harmattan as well16:18
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ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, u can buy nice games, but it's not supporting devs  i think :P as it's companies who wouldn't do anymore16:18
Lava_Croftthere are barely any nice games for harmattan16:19
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, maybe homescreen or better just search for "donate" they have few apps free and donate ones.16:19
Lava_Crofti use billboard :)16:19
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, there are few good games actually16:19
ZogG_laptopSpeedX, Gravity Guy, Burn It and few more16:20
papiggz pang seems to be good, but havent tried it yet16:20
ZogG_laptoppa, did you try his last game?16:20
ZogG_laptopwanna play online?16:20
padont have it no16:20
paand i am too lazy to set ccard and stuff on ovi account :)16:20
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ZogG_laptoppa, it's not on ovi and free16:21
ZogG_laptopit's for coding competition16:21
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paah cool , then yes :)16:21
pabut first i have to finish meeTrainer 0.2 for the competition16:21
Lava_CroftPang sounds awfully like Bubble Bobble16:21
paim almost there16:21
ZogG_laptopcheck TMO for square-it16:21
Lava_Croftpuzzle bobble whatever16:21
pau never played pang? :)16:22
ZogG_laptopi never played pang16:22
pahow old are you? :)16:22
ZogG_laptop26 :P16:22
Lava_Croftwhat does age have to do with actual taste16:22
Lava_Croftthat game looks awful, sorry16:22
pawell its a classic game16:22
Lava_Croftnot my type of game16:23
Lava_Croftand i despise clones16:23
ZogG_laptoppa, for classic is prince of persia :P16:24
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, clones are ok, if original devs do not port original one :P16:24
Lava_Croftthats a bad reason16:24
ZogG_laptopi would like to see something like tripletown or fruit ninja on n916:24
Lava_Croftclones are a way to either how your lack of creativity, or cheapness16:24
Lava_Croftmostly both16:24
pasomeone should port that to harmattan too!16:25
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, the problem is that most clones are poorly made16:25
Lava_Croftthere is a shit fruit ninja clone for harmattan16:25
Lava_Croftits clones all over16:25
Lava_Croftill stick to emulators:)16:25
ZogG_laptopSpeedX is a clone of clone. Boost is clone of old game but with good graphics. Speedx has same idea but more interesting challenges, though it's the same all the way, while in boost you have time challenge and classic where with time it becomes harder and harder16:26
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, gravity guy is reaaaaaly nice16:26
ZogG_laptopha yesterday i saw joysticpad for n900, one u put on keyboard16:27
Lava_Croftgame gripper16:27
ZogG_laptopnot yesterday16:27
ZogG_laptopthe day before16:27
Lava_Crofttoo bad games on (semi) open source platforms mostly revolve around cloning games that are actually good16:28
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Lava_Croftand the clones rarely end up coming even remotely close to the original16:28
ZogG_laptophmm github for windows actually looks nice :P16:28
pawe need a clone of qix too16:28
ZogG_laptopwe need Lava_Croft clone :P16:29
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ZogG_laptoppa, when i was kid i used to play games outside :)16:29
pai think i there was some sort of sexy/porn version of this game on the first PC my dad bought :)16:29
valdur55How can i download PGZ Pang16:29
ZogG_laptoppa, what PC btw? and what age are you?16:30
paovi store i think16:30
valdur55ok. free?16:30
pait was a 486 dx :)16:30
pavaldur55, no, afaik16:30
ZogG_laptopvaldur55, don't think so.16:30
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ZogG_laptophmm piggz himself is not here today :P16:30
ZogG_laptoppa, 486 was my 2 one16:30
ZogG_laptopfirst was 386 :P16:30
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paheh :)16:31
Lava_Croft286 11mhz16:31
Lava_CroftIBM PS/216:31
ZogG_laptopactually i don't remmeber if i had 286 or 38616:31
Lava_Croftiirc 11mhz, not sure actually16:31
ZogG_laptoppa, and it was mine :P16:31
ZogG_laptopthan i got pentium mmx with overclocking to 166 i think or something like that16:31
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Lava_Croftoh, a 5016:32
ZogG_laptopi had NC and than win3.116:32
ZogG_laptopoh no16:32
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Lava_CroftNC was nice to move files over a network16:32
Lava_Croftat 2400baud16:32
ZogG_laptopit was 166 overcloked to 200+ i think16:32
ZogG_laptopNC was my operation system16:32
ZogG_laptopall totalcommanders and stuff are cloned from NC or VC or simuliar16:33
paheh.. my first "my" pc was a pentium III i guess16:33
ZogG_laptopi played starcraft 1 over moded :P16:33
Lava_Croftthats at least 199816:33
Lava_Crofthad broadband then16:33
ZogG_laptopi remember my grandma was taking phone and shouting there when she heard modem sounds :P16:33
Lava_Croftmust have been awful to go to bnet over 56k6 orso16:33
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ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, i used BBS :P16:34
ZogG_laptopand i tried to get into Fido16:34
Lava_Croftin 1998?16:34
ZogG_laptoponce suceeded somhower but i was kicked16:34
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, +-16:34
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft, in russia we got internet late16:34
Lava_Croftno shit16:34
Lava_Croft1998 meant 2nd year of broadband for me16:34
ZogG_laptopi was living in russia back than16:34
Lava_Croftplaying QuakeWorld16:35
ZogG_laptopso BBS was the way to go16:35
ZogG_laptopwhere is beford16:35
ZogG_laptop~seen beford16:35
infobotbeford <~beford@unaffiliated/beford> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 7h 16m 35s ago, saying: 'there is something wrong with the scrolling and clicks only working on part of the screen'.16:35
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kevin_bis opensles present on harmattan?16:49
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gabriel9|N9test N917:05
e-yesnokia store thinks I'm from Kazakhstan, lol17:05
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ZogG_laptope-yes, lol17:13
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pawhy the paint() method of my qml custom component is not being invoked when i call update() from a slot?18:02
kevin_bwhen I was calling QGraphicsItem::update from another thread it would not call paint always18:05
kevin_bI needed to use QMetaObject::invokeMethod to send custom signal which would trigger update from the main thread18:06
pakevin_b, well im calling from within the class itself18:06
pai mean,  a slot is invoked, and the slot at the end does update();18:06
pathe slot is being called18:07
pai assume update() is being issued18:07
pabut paint() is not being invoked18:07
pamaybe because i have it inside a flickable?18:10
paah perhaps i got it.. it might not be visible yet, when itùs invoked18:11
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gtxHi. 911: My n9 screen just died. I can see the lock screen, but when I tap twice, it become black.18:16
gtxlast thing I did was chmod -x smartsearch to save battery, then reboot18:16
gtxworried! :O18:17
paif u can see the lock screen, the screen works18:17
gtxpa: yes, makes sense. any ideas before reflashing?18:17
valdur55chmod +x smartsearch ?18:17
valdur55can you ssh to your phone?18:18
gtxvaldur55: I believe it was disabled.18:18
gtxvaldur55: so no. :-(18:18
gtxvaldur55: also, it's password protected.18:19
valdur55what happends when you plug it to power adapter?18:19
gtxdamn. :(18:19
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valdur55i use key auth, so.. I don't need remember my phone random password :D18:20
gtxvaldur55: apparently nothing. however, if I plug into my PC, I can see it is recognized.18:20
gtxvaldur55: aparently nothing = led doesnt blink.18:20
gtxvaldur55: sorry, just started blinking :D18:21
valdur55have you enabled developer mode?18:21
gtxyeeey, it is live again! however, screen's luminosity is set to 018:21
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gtxso strange. I never happened before.18:22
gtxthank you all.18:22
valdur55:D funny18:22
valdur55Maybe "Mobile is changin" notification fixed your phone :D18:23
valdur55Displayed new information to screen and so on :P18:23
gtxtime to backup my apps using  farfary's solution: Just in case :P18:23
gtxvaldur55: yeah.. probably.18:24
panothing.. it doesnt repaint..18:25
paso, the qdeclarativeitem.isVisible is true, but update() does not trigger paint..18:30
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valdur55OK. :P18:32
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rm_workgj nokia18:43
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M4rtinKZogG_laptop: need some AFM testing ? :)18:47
ZogG_laptopM4rtinK, ?18:49
DocScrutinizer05beford: haha, nice18:51
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M4rtinKZogG_laptop: any Apps 4 MeeGo update that needs QA ? :)19:02
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djszapiieatlint: no, it is plain text19:24
djszapiopen the binary up19:24
djszapibeford: did you overcome the whitescreen issue?19:24
ZogG_laptopbeford, ping19:26
ZogG_laptopM4rtinK, nope, my app was voted twice with (do not promote) and one of them was by mistake, other one i hope too19:27
ZogG_laptopbeford, there is pomodoro app in ovi with same name and it's paid :P19:27
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beforddamn it19:43
befordthere wasnt one last time I checked ZogG_laptop19:44
befordnot for N9 at least19:44
beforddjszapi: yes I said it last night19:44
befordthere is mobile pomodoro and some others but they are for Symbian I suppose, when you filter by device only one appear called quicktimer19:45
ZogG_laptopbeford, i saw it on n9-apps19:45
beforddamn it!19:45
djszapibeford: rotation was working?19:46
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ZogG_laptopbeford, change the name19:46
beforddjszapi: no19:46
ZogG_laptopthat's it19:46
djszapibeford: always landscape?19:46
djszapibeford: have you tried to use the "-plugin meego" option?19:47
beforddjszapi: always unless I click change rotation on the QML Rotation example19:47
befordI gave you hints to get it working19:47
beforddid you get them?19:48
ZogG_laptopbeford, i still like yours more19:48
ZogG_laptopbeford, call it poMeedoro19:49
befordbest pomodoro app ever19:49
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beforddjszapi: I can only click / scroll on some parts of the screen19:50
djszapibeford: would you mind trying "-plugin meego"?19:52
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befordsame behavior19:56
beforddjszapi: ^19:56
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djszapibeford: no orientation working?19:58
befordand only half of the screen receives input from touch19:59
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djszapibeford: patches welcome20:23
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beforddjszapi: I have no idea20:25
djszapibeford: I know what the mistake is.20:26
djszapifor the 2.0 issue20:26
djszapibut I do not have time to implement the fix :)20:26
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piggzlo *20:53
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RST38hWhat surprises you?20:55
piggzthat they suggest it _could_ be announced20:55
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clauis there a way to permanently delete emails on n9?20:58
M4rtinKbtw, the Mieru package in AFM has been updated:
M4rtinKtesting & QA votes welcome :)20:58
clauif you delete the account the mails seem to be still present on storage20:58
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ZogG_laptopI hate the feeling when u write a code and you know it's shitty23:08
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louisdkI'll change the battery in my N950 tomorrow. any good recommandations on what23:30
louisdkon how to get the battery lasts a good time?23:30
ZogG_laptopdon't use phone23:31
louisdkZogG_laptop, lol...23:32
jonniBV-4D is nice. Best tip to get batterylife is to disable smartsearch :)23:33
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befordjonni: did you see that Hurrian is working on a "power kernel" for N9?23:49
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