IRC log of #harmattan for Wednesday, 2012-09-05

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MohammadAGZogG_laptop: Road from TLV to Jerusalem has 20-30km of one straight road00:01
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: u are fast00:02
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: now i have your naked pics i'll upload to facebook00:02
MohammadAGZogG_laptop: I actually got here an hour ago :p00:02
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: oh, i had long phone talk with GF, she got pissed as i didn't talk to her all day long00:03
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: it was nice meeting00:03
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: we need to think of n9 hack day and the plan for it00:03
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MohammadAGZogG_laptop: Kinda same, I didn't notice her WhatsApp messages and I replied to yours so last seen was after her message00:03
ZogG_laptopmaybe small hacks/apps we can make together. but i think the plan should come first00:03
ieatlintooh, naked pics of MohammadAG00:04
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: u have gf, and how is the "all the time with laptop" fights?00:04
ZogG_laptopieatlint: i have few :P00:04
MohammadAGZogG_laptop: yeah00:05
MohammadAGNo fights, I hack at night00:05
MohammadAGAs in late night00:05
MohammadAGieatlint: fap fap fap00:05
MohammadAGZogG_laptop: Yeah, stuff like thp's hackathons would be appreciated00:06
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: u know actually at night is the most interesting time with gf :P00:06
sneakyc4djszapi: u were right, my scratchbox was screwed maybe, coz of a uneeded standard lib in /lib/00:07
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: yes, but we need plan as Asaf wouldn't come probably and as well i'm noob, so we need some real good task that we can stand00:07
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: jabber? u ignoring me?00:34
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: did ur laptop idled this time? :P00:42
ZogG_laptopAAAAND HE'S GONE! (c)00:44
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Sazpaimon_nokia lauta :(02:00
Natunennokia lauta?02:05
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Natunenbest product axed ..02:08
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Dante_JGreetings all02:58
Dante_JI'm looking for guidance as where to find emmc.bin for my N9 model. It's not showing in naviperl03:00
Dante_JI flashed the main image, and now it won't mount in Mass Storage mode, with host log showing that it has an invalid partition table03:02
Dante_JSome googling seemed to indicate that if I re-flashed and also flashed the emmc.bin that may help. Thoughts??03:02
njsftry an EMMC from another model with same PR_LEGACY03:10
njsfIn about product you will see on version (for PR 1.3) PR 1.3 (40.2012.21-3_PR_XXX)03:11
njsfTry finding another model where PR_xxx matches yours and use that EMMC03:12
Dante_Jthank you njsf. I appreciate it. Will have a look.03:13
Dante_Jnjsf, does the re-flashing of emmc.bin sound like it will fix the partitation table to you? I was wondering if I may need to resort to gparted or fdisk?03:14
njsfThat I don't know03:14
njsfother people here are more knowledgable on that03:14
befordit will restore it to default state03:14
befordso yea, try to flash both and it should boot03:15
Dante_Jit boots fine - phone is running03:15
befordI mean, emmc should be usable :P03:15
Dante_Jjust won't mount on my laptop, so that I can copy backup files back03:15
Dante_Jok, thanks beford03:15
befordjust so you know, if you had files on the emmc they will be lost once you flash03:16
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Dante_JThe reason for my first flash is that I had to do a --erase-user-data=secure as i forgot my dumb pass code. Tried about 40 versions of what I thought the passcode should be. Grrr03:18
* Dante_J looks for a emmc.bin based on njsf advice03:19
befordah, you used -erase-user-data without the emmc image?03:19
Dante_Jis that a problem?03:19
befordno but it explains why you cant mount it03:20
Dante_Jhow so?03:20
befordbecause it deleted it ? :P03:20
Dante_JI thought the partition table would be independent of user-data03:21
Dante_Juser-data would be stored in a pre-configured partition and need not be modified.03:21
* Dante_J shrugs03:21
befordthe whole emmc is user data03:22
Dante_JMaybe I should read up on the #harmattan SDK or some such thing. My knowledge is wanting.03:22
* Dante_J changes topic03:22
Dante_JHere is the magic question in my mind: Will #harmattan benefit from a CSSU like the N900 does?03:23
Dante_JUsing Inception, might there be a way to make this possible?03:25
befordit could03:25
befordit's already possible to some extent, MohammadAG released an statusbar package with some added functionality that replaces Nokia one03:26
arceanand I'm running some modified/patched system packages:
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sneakyc4lib/.libs/ undefined reference to `config_GetPszChoices'03:55
sneakyc4wrong channel sry03:55
pai have a component that is a delegate, and inside i have two labels. i am trying to set the visible:  property of the two label so that if a parameter for that item is false, one is visible and the other not, and vice versa. so like visible: (label1visible)?true:false03:55
pabut it doesnt work03:55
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pai am afraid the expression is not being evaluated or something03:56
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befordwant to check my app pa? :p03:59
pawhere is it?03:59
pai think i got the bloody error.. uint instead of int..03:59
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paand what is it? :)04:03
befordits called pomodoro, the time management technique04:04
befordlet me pm you the link04:04
paaha.. i heared about that04:04
pabeford, cool, i will try it out tomorrow :) (now it's 3.00 Am here )04:06
pabeford, do you use such technique?04:07
pado you think it's effective?04:07
palol i see :)04:07
befordsome coworkers were talking about it04:07
befordand got apps for android/ios04:07
befordso I had to do it :P04:07
pahaha : )04:07
pabtw i havent reinstalled qstardict04:08
pai will, before going to bed :)04:08
befordheh, did you try the one on TMO?04:08
befordit never passed QA .. but it worked ok for me even after reflash :/04:09
paactually i think you are right04:10
pai think i got the sources and compiled it04:10
pabut i see there is a  non free version in the store..04:10
befordthat non free is mine too04:11
befordbut i uploaded a newer deb there04:11
pabut is it possible that the sources are available on the web?04:13
pacoz i remember i had it installed like 2-3 months ago..04:13
pabefore reflashing 1.204:13
befordoh there is another one called DictionaryStar something like that04:14
befordthat one is free on the store04:14
paah maybe that one was it..04:14
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Dante_JUsing naviperl I'm finding it difficult to find an emmc.bin for PR_299. None was available for my model number. Is there a shortcut, could I just guess some URLs?04:52
Dante_JFor eg, modify this one appropriately:
Dante_JNo hits, just misses for me looking for a PR_299 emmc.bin so far. Suggestions appreciated.04:54
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Dante_JIt's just silly how hard it is to find any emmc.bin, let alone one that suits 29905:09
Sazpaimon_Dante_J, iirc you can really just use any EMMC05:09
Sazpaimon_when I got my N9 i flashed it with the global firmware+emmc variant when PR1.1 came out05:10
Sazpaimon_if youre already on PR1.3 though, youre stuck with whatever you got05:10
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Dante_JI have the correct main bin for 1.3, and appropriate to my N9 model number, but can't find a EMMC05:11
Dante_Jsearching other Australian versions05:11
Dante_Jand other "V1 - MR" versions05:11
Dante_Jnone of them have an EMMC at all05:12
Sazpaimon_what's the product code for your N9?05:12
Dante_JI'm following advice from  njsf05:14
* Dante_J quotes05:14
Sazpaimon_should be it05:14
Dante_Jdid you use to find that?05:14
Sazpaimon_navifirm+ actually05:15
Dante_Jforgive all the questions, but did you search on the model number, and then did it suggest a EMMC?05:16
Sazpaimon_you sure your N9 is australia variant?05:16
Dante_Jyes indeed05:16
Sazpaimon_yeah it is, okay05:16
Sazpaimon_SEAP = "South Eastern Asia and Pacific"05:16
Sazpaimon_which doesn't strike me as "Australia"05:17
Sazpaimon_though i guess australia is south pacific05:17
Sazpaimon_as i've stated though, EMMC from the global variant usually works for any model05:18
Dante_JMany thanks Sazpaimon_ - it was driving me batty to look for it using - which is better than nothing05:18
Sazpaimon_though I usually pair it with a global firmware05:18
Sazpaimon_but it's too late for you to use the global firmware if youre already on PR1.305:18
Sazpaimon_since it would technically be seen as a "downgrade"05:19
Sazpaimon_anyway, that EMMC should be what you need, regardless05:19
Dante_JI'm looking for the emmc, as I did a re-flash, with --erase-user-data=secure and no emmc, and this lead to mount problems05:20
Dante_Jso thanks again05:20
Dante_Jwhat would be the major differences between the  global firmware & region specific firmware?05:21
Sazpaimon_i dont think there is any really05:29
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Corsacmpf, home screen settings is not free anymore09:25
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chem|stgood morning10:18
Sfiet_Konstantinmorning chem|st10:18
chem|stI still have issues with modem restarting10:18
chem|stdoes that happen to others?10:18
Sfiet_Konstantinsorry, can't help, doesn't happen to me10:19
chem|stmy modem restarts from time to time, just the modem afaict10:19
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ZogG_laptopbeford: ping12:27
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: chem|st: sup12:27
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Oni^how to change users shell to bash in N9 does export SHELL=/bin/bash do it?12:36
DocScrutinizer05how about chsh? (no idea if that's available)12:42
DocScrutinizer05the 'orthodox' way would be editing of /etc/passwd12:43
DocScrutinizer05chsh(1)                                                                                                                                                   chsh(1)12:44
DocScrutinizer05       chsh - change login shell12:44
DocScrutinizer05I'd first make sure there's any bash to invoke ;-D12:45
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Khertan_Worksup ZogG_laptop12:51
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DocScrutinizer05Oni^: I think the answer is: "edit /etc/passwd" but check:12:53
infobotmayIedit () { grep "`basename $1`" /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && echo "probably not" && return; echo "edit if you feel venturous"; }12:53
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DocScrutinizer05Oni^: be warned that this may render your system in an  unbootable state and require a reflash to recover12:54
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DocScrutinizer05Oni^: I for one prefer to manually start bash after login12:55
DocScrutinizer055 little keystrokes that won't cause much colateral damage12:56
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M4rtinKlooks like Ovi QA is falling apart even further :)13:06
M4rtinKthey just tested my package with V20.2011.40-4_PR_001, which if I am not mistaken is PR 1.013:06
ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: what now?13:06
ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: btw i added translation. tell me when deb is out so i'll check on device13:07
M4rtinKand when I connect to an N9 with RDA, it has no internet connectivity :D13:07
ZogG_laptopno info :P13:07
Oni^I'm trying to get 'export PATH=$PATH:/opt/irssi/bin:/usr/games:.' executed automatically when I start terminal as user13:07
M4rtinKit sees a bunch of wireless networks though (Nokia, GUEST, RDA5, RDA6) but won't connect to any13:08
M4rtinKZogG_laptop: it should be already released since yesterday13:08
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ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: i only added missing strings yesterday13:10
ZogG_laptopHurrian: sup13:10
HurrianCan anyone grab the newest busybox-devel-su for me? Enabling developer-mode using the normal way destroys battery life.13:10
HurrianZogG_laptop, sup13:10
ZogG_laptopHurrian: why would it destroy battery?13:10
pawhats the normal way?13:11
paswitch in the options?13:11
Hurrianenabling dev mode the normal way drops battery estimate from ~10 days on standby to 4 days13:11
pawhy does it drain battery?13:11
M4rtinKZogG_laptop: the latest package is here:
paHurrian, on.. 1.3?13:11
Hurrianpa, mmhm.13:12
pathis is a test i havent done, tbh..13:12
Hurrianit may be just placebo, but it's one of my nitpicks13:12
pai hate that 1.3 drains the battery, but now that u say that, maybe i should try to switch dev mode off13:12
ZogG_laptoppa: btw u had this 20 → 4 % thing?13:13
ZogG_laptopi think i saw some people with advices on it on twitter13:13
payes i have that13:13
paah cool13:13
palink? :)13:13
ZogG_laptopno link13:14
ZogG_laptopi think i saw it when people talked13:14
Oni^how to upgrade dep with dpkg13:14
ZogG_laptopso can't help you with that. just bumped in it few days ago thru internet/twitter13:14
ZogG_laptopOni^: why dpkg?13:15
paHurrian, but if i turn it off, then all those pkgs are uninstalled..13:15
Oni^Is there anyother way install this
Oni^I'v already got gnugo-3.7.1013:17
ZogG_laptopOni^: it's freemantle13:18
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Oni^who to get one for N913:19
djszapiwow, mesa was ported also to harmattan13:19
paZogG_laptop, ah okay. but u see, the problem exists, and nokia better do something about that13:19
ZogG_laptoppa: they did13:20
padid they? when?13:20
ZogG_laptoppa: when they discontinued harmattan obv :P13:20
pabtw i still dont get how can osX be so damn quicker than linux..13:21
DocScrutinizer05not that fremantle cmdline binaries were particularly unsuited for HARM13:22
DocScrutinizer05I simply copied i2ctools and bash from my N900 (yes, the binaries, and yes once you get them to start thanks paegis, they run like a charm)13:23
djszapiDocScrutinizer05: see, paegis is your friend? :)13:24
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djszapi -> oh, there are no arm binaries.13:29
djszapithat is unfortunate.13:30
* djszapi will try to build mesa in scratchbox then13:30
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi: why do u need it?13:32
djszapiZogG_laptop: the sgx opengles 2 implementation is broken.13:34
djszapiwe have tried to fix that in Qt5 upstream, but we do not have a nice solution for that, thus for the time being, I am patching qt5 while packaging.13:34
djszapithis way I could use a vanilla qt5 without any custom patches.13:35
djszapi(same issue for fremantle as well fwiw)13:35
M4rtinKoh, nice, another RDA bug - the PR 1.1 devices are actually upgraded to PR 1.3 :D13:38
djszapiRemote Device Access13:41
paso no hack yet to downgrade the firmware?13:43
ZogG_laptoppa: you need signed bootloader for that as far as i understand :P13:45
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paah i see13:48
M4rtinKoh, this is getting better and better - they have 8 N9s in the pool, but only one is actually online :D13:49
ZogG_laptoppa: you need to sign the modified one so current would allow u to installl it13:49
M4rtinKsome engineers must have taken them when leaving :)13:49
ZogG_laptopand than in modified you need to unable downgrade and unsigned kernels and stuff :P13:49
pait sucks :)13:50
ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: they switched them with lumia13:50
M4rtinKZogG_laptop: hh13:50
ZogG_laptopM4rtinK: what are you testing there?13:50
Hurrianso, uhh, can anyone apt-get -d busybox-devel-su?13:50
ZogG_laptopHurrian: i tried it does nothing13:51
Hurrianapt-get install -d --reinstall busybox-devel-su13:51
M4rtinKZogG_laptop: I'm trying to check why my application supposedly doesn't work on PR 1.013:51
M4rtinKbut I'll probably soon execute the backup plan13:51
M4rtinKspamming new versions until the underpaid Indian student on the other side has at least PR 1.2 and it passes13:52
ZogG_laptopHurrian: busybox-devel-su_3%3a1.19-8+0m6_armel.deb :P13:52
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HurrianZogG_laptop, that's perfect13:54
Hurriancool, thanks!13:56
ZogG_laptopi think it screwed the name though :P13:57
Hurrianhmm, it says invalid installation package. Can you MD5 it?13:59
ZogG_laptopHurrian: rename it14:01
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pa     tho you guys probably all knew14:24
GeneralAntillesImagine a different world.14:25
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chem|stpa: there was talking about a n950/n9 merge qwerty release years ago14:31
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TheBootroohi !!14:42
TheBootrooi deploy an app on N9 with QtSDk, i have set an icon for menu (80x80) and for package manager (64x64), the one for package manager works but the menu show red square, even after reboot....14:42
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: check your desktop file14:44
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: in .desktop (generated by QtCreator) the line is Icon=MyProjectName14:45
Hurrianpa, if that was released, everything would've changed14:46
paheh sure :)14:46
Hurriana device with roughly the same dimensions as the N9, but with a keyboard.14:46
payou mean.. an n95014:46
TheBootrooand this file is deployed by the package into /usr/share/icons/hicolor/80x80/apps14:46
HurrianZogG_laptop, figured out the error. "Package is not user package", tee hee. Time to repackage the deb.14:50
Sfiet_KonstantinTheBootroo: shouldn't it be /usr/share/icons/hicolor/80x80/apps/myapp.png14:50
Sfiet_Konstantininstead ?14:50
jpnurmiany ideas for generating file "preview" thumbnails? should support common image formats, txt, html, pdf etc.14:50
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M4rtinKjust sent an email about all the Ovi & RDA issues to Nokia14:55
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M4rtinKhope there is still someone left to respond :D14:55
pajpnurmi, you mean you want a preview of the pdf content in the thumbnail, for example?14:57
jpnurmipa: yes14:57
pahm.. doesnt sound straightforward to rasterize the first page of a pdf to a thumb..14:58
jpnurmipa: i could use QPrinter for pdfs, QImage/QPixmap for images, etc... just wondering if some readily available solution exists14:58
pabut maybe there are some libraries that do that14:58
paah i see14:59
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pai guess qprinter would work for txt and html too, right?15:00
jpnurmihmm, let's see how dolphin does it15:00
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: it worked15:00
jpnurmiexcept that it doesn't handle pdf it seems :(15:01
TheBootrooSfiet_Konstantin: strange though, because on linux .desktop we need only the name of icon, and the theme engine automatically finds the filename15:01
pajpnurmi, technically, couldnt you use qprinter for everything? i dont know eh.. never used it15:02
jpnurmipa: i just realized qprinter can only output pdfs...15:03
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Sfiet_Konstantinnot on harmattan15:06
Sfiet_Konstantinthey don't have the same engine15:06
Sfiet_Konstantinit depends on the DE to support icons15:06
djszapiN9Sfiet_Konstantin, where are you from?15:07
pajpnurmi, apparently some guy rasterized pdf using gs in an external process15:09
pais there gs on harmattan?15:09
djszapiN9what is gs?15:10
djszapiN9there is iirc15:10
pathen it might work15:10
paslowly tho :)15:10
djszapiN9why don't you run apt-cache search?15:10
pajpnurmi, or imagemagick, if there is that too and you are feeling lucky (as it always produces wrong conversions :p)15:11
djszapiN9there is15:12
djszapiN9again, why not use the tools?15:12
pajeez i cant even imagine how slow would imagemagick  be on the N9 :)15:13
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Khertan_WorkWebcast : The service is unavailable.16:59
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jonnireload helped :)17:14
ZogG_laptopjonni, am i missing or you are not in codding competition?17:17
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jonniI am, but I havent bothered to submit yet.17:20
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pajonni, by the way, what about that tool to extract qml from qrc? O:-)17:28
pahe he17:29
hiemanshupa: strings <file name> will give you most of it mostly :P17:31
payep, actually in my case just editing it show me the most, but you know.. if it would be possible to get all of it, it would be better :)17:32
hiemanshudo that ^17:33
hiemanshuyou'll just have to split them yourself :P17:33
* Khertan_Work #jolla will have some announce soon17:35
Sfiet_Konstantinare you sure Khertan_Work ?17:36
Sfiet_Konstantinall right, soon is ok17:36
Sfiet_Konstantinbut how soon17:36
Khertan_WorkSfiet_Konstantin: nope the word hope was missing17:36
Sfiet_KonstantinNokia soon ?17:36
Sfiet_Konstantinoh well yeah17:36
* Khertan_Work hope #jolla will have some announce soon17:36
Sfiet_KonstantinJolla hackday is coming17:36
Khertan_Workyeah ...17:36
Sfiet_Konstantinand I'm more exited about that17:36
Khertan_Worki would expect a live crash or funny error for the nokia world17:37
paand any chance that nokia will restart the maemo division, once Elop will be fired? :)17:37
Khertan_Workbut streaming not working17:37
Sfiet_Konstantinit is impossible17:37
chem|stKhertan_Work: I hope they have the lauta blueprints17:37
Sfiet_Konstantinthey fired all Maemo people17:37
pawell, they can hire them back17:37
Sfiet_Konstantinif you want to get Maemo device, you can only hope at Jolla17:38
Sfiet_Konstantinpa: Nokia need to have money17:38
Sfiet_Konstantinto hire17:38
Sfiet_Konstantinbut they burnt it with useless WP7 ads17:38
pawell, they wont make money by not selling smartphones :)17:38
chem|stwell maemo was invented with a group of outsourced people, right?17:38
Sfiet_Konstantinpa: MS is feeding them17:39
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payes, and soon MS feed will end17:39
Khertan_Workor bought them17:39
Sfiet_KonstantinNokia lost their only capabilities of innovating and differenciation by selling Qt / Maemo and co17:40
Sfiet_Konstantinthey don't have any R&D on SW17:40
Sfiet_Konstantinfrom now, they are only "normal" manufacturers like sammy or HTC17:41
Sfiet_Konstantinnothing more17:41
chem|stsymbian is still 10years ahead of ios development wise, but they dropped it...17:41
Sfiet_Konstantinchem|st: well, you have to agree that Symbian have huge weakness17:41
Khertan_Workchem|st: 10years ahead ... hum ...  a bit optimistic17:41
Sfiet_Konstantinhard to maintain & stuff17:41
chem|stSfiet_Konstantin: example?17:42
Sfiet_Konstantinwhy did they need 1 year to port Qt on it ?17:42
Khertan_Workchem|st: the only good point of symbian is that we can use Qt17:42
Sfiet_Konstantinit is known that they had problems sw wise. They were always late at delivering on symbian17:42
Sfiet_Konstantinalthough symbian is nice, it is indeed too old17:42
Sfiet_Konstantinand I appreciate what mer is doing17:43
Sfiet_Konstantinreconstructing an OS on the simplest way possible17:43
Sfiet_Konstantinand clean way17:43
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phakokhertan: cool, you get 38ct if you buy nokia stocks? ;)18:53
paim sure if they fire elop, the stock would skyrocket :)18:55
pagood for speculation18:56
valdur55oh. it will go some time downline and then very fast back to up18:57
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mzanettianyone here already investigated on how to access the media buttons on the lockscreen ever since we have openmode/inception?19:07
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ZogG_laptopanyone know how to get ascii codes of char in C ?19:34
phakoif it's an ascii char, just cast.19:35
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jpnurmii can see ghostscript at but apt-get says E: Couldn't find package ghostscript ?19:54
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jonnijpnurmi: and you have that repo in your scratchbox etc/apt ?20:09
jonniand remembered to run update before get :)20:10
jpnurmijonni: on the device20:10
jonnijpnurmi: harmattan-dev repo is only meant for scratchbox and not the device.20:10
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jpnurmiso i must add an extra apt source for that? i guess i cannot depend on that package in an app that would be submitted to store then :(20:10
jonnijpnurmi: yes you cannot depend to that for ovi store apps.20:11
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ZogG_laptopphako, yeah thanks, it didn't work as it was char c="A"; and i needed char c='A'; :P20:16
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phakowell the first is not a char :-=20:16
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e-yeshi all20:23
e-yes I like waking-up gusture on n9 (double-tap). Anyone has an idea how it's implemented? Is it implemented in touch controller firmware? Is it possible to implement custom gustures and get IRQ when it was detected by FW?20:23
djszapiN9harmattan repository is a must have on the device though20:25
djszapiN9if the community repository is invoked by someone.20:25
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jonnie-yes: yes in firmware and no you cannot implement custom gestures for it.20:47
e-yesjonni, is double-tap only implemented gesture OR there is some set of "pre-loaded" gestures that device makers can choose from?20:51
jonnie-yes: the only20:51
e-yesok, thanks20:52
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ieatlintthe double-tap is one of the features i really like on the n9/5020:58
ieatlintprobably in part because i'm left handed and the damn unlock buttons on phones are never that convenient20:59
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sivangso wireless charging? wtf21:11
sivang(lumia 920)21:11
sivangZogG_laptop: ^21:11
sivangMohammadAG: ^21:11
Arieits possible on n921:11
sivangArie: how so?21:11
Arieits been done on the lumia 80021:11
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ZogG_laptopsivang, hey21:12
Ariedesign is similar on n921:12
sivangArie: how is this soccery possible?21:12
sivangZogG_laptop: 'sup?21:12
ZogG_laptopsivang, i uploaded photos of naked MohammadAG as promised21:12
sivanghe's not answering21:13
ZogG_laptope-yes, :P21:14
ZogG_laptopsivang, you need to go to the Tesla grave and get him back to life and give him N9 :P21:15
Arieits possible, i wont say much till it happens21:15
sivangArie: hoax ?21:16
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sivangArie: is there an update expected to enable N9 to do wireless charging that you won't talk about until it happens? :)21:17
ZogG_laptoplike never :P21:18
Arieno, im talking to the guy that modded the Lumia 800 to help me do it on the n921:18
ZogG_laptopsivang, MohammadAG
Ariei have a few n9's lying around so might as well21:19
ZogG_laptopArie, you can take two N9 and use as charger like in medicine is someone21:19
sivangZogG_laptop: hmog, I look like a troll21:19
ZogG_laptopif some's heart stopped21:19
Ariefrom left to right?21:19
ZogG_laptopArie, which photo?21:19
ZogG_laptopfirst is Shturman damagedspline MohammadAG sivang21:20
sivangwe were the middle eastern harmattan user group in full capacity last night21:20
Ariei should have been there too21:21
sivangArie: you from .il as well?21:21
sivangZogG_laptop: I should never smile21:22
sivanganyway, laters all21:22
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Arieno, the us21:22
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ZogG_laptopanyone here is a friend with visual studio on win?22:39
sneakyc4Technically, oculd the N9 do proper 720p decoding?22:40
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phakoZogG_laptop: what for?22:55
ZogG_laptopphako, solved it by reverting to last commit22:55
ZogG_laptopit fucked up the encode of text in visual itself22:56
ZogG_laptoplike encode of code i write22:56
phakothat happens sometimes22:56
ZogG_laptopand didn't compile with wierd error22:56
ZogG_laptopfucking windows22:56
ZogG_laptopi hope it happens on Lumias with contacts :P22:56
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njsfN9 contacts only syncs with one MfE ?!22:59
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pasneakyc4, technically, 3630 specs say yes23:17
panjsf, out of stock, yes23:18
njsfpa: any hack ?23:18
pato sync withwhat?23:18
njsfwith another MfE account23:18
njsfor to switch the MfE account it syncs with23:18
panot that i am aware of23:18
pawhere do you have your contacts?23:18
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njsf2 Google accounts + Work23:19
pafor google you can try syncgcontacts23:19
njsfusing Mfe to the 2 google accounts for Calendar mostly23:19
njsfIt just seems that the 1st MfE wins23:19
pabut then it wouldnt play nicely with the third Mf3, i guess23:19
njsfI'm now going to remove the 3 MfE and add work, where I have the most contacts23:19
pai mean, the third MfE would probably try to sync the gmail contacts23:20
njsfafterwards I could try to force sync in accounts.db23:20
njsfsetting sync/contacts value to 123:20
pawork is local server?23:20
njsfno, ActiveSync23:20
paah ok23:20
pawell in your case im not sure i can help23:21
njsfthanks for trying !23:21
pano problem :)23:21
njsfI mostly just wanted to confirm this was expected behavior23:21
paif you decide to keep everything on gmail acounts, then you could be lucky23:21
njsfWell when I get another job I wmight try that23:22
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njsfbut my current employer is anal enough that it replaces the SSL certificate when accessing google search23:22
njsfso I won't sync ANYTHING through their network that is personal23:22
njsfif they don't trust, I won't trust :)23:23
palol jeez is that even legal?23:23
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njsfyes, it is their network and SOX act gives them the excuse they have to "log" all communications23:24
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njsfit does not help that gmail cert is same as search cert23:24
pathats interesting..23:25
njsfthey even install their internal cert via the Microsoft management23:25
njsfwhich Chrome just eats up23:25
pabut do you have to sync while at work?23:25
njsfbut Firefox knows better :)23:25
njsfNo, not really, but I can only access the mailbox when connected to their network via VPN23:26
njsfso the only opening is really OWA23:26
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njsfor MfE whatever you want to call it23:26
pano i mean, if you would have all your contacts on gmail accounts, or also on gmail accounts23:26
njsfI might do an export soon yes23:27
pathen you could use syncgcontacts23:27
njsfbut once I do that, I'll actually prefer having my own SyncML server23:27
njsfBTW, anyone does the contacts sync via SyncML server like funambol or something ?23:28
pai think you can do something like that with syncevolution23:28
njsfI have to set something like that up23:29
njsfEver since Nokia shutdown their contact sync (sigh)23:29
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njsfalso, any way to import a VCF ?23:40
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