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MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: Road from TLV to Jerusalem has 20-30km of one straight road | 00:01 |
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ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: u are fast | 00:02 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: now i have your naked pics i'll upload to facebook | 00:02 |
ZogG_laptop | :P | 00:02 |
MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: I actually got here an hour ago :p | 00:02 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: oh, i had long phone talk with GF, she got pissed as i didn't talk to her all day long | 00:03 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: it was nice meeting | 00:03 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: we need to think of n9 hack day and the plan for it | 00:03 |
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MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: Kinda same, I didn't notice her WhatsApp messages and I replied to yours so last seen was after her message | 00:03 |
ZogG_laptop | maybe small hacks/apps we can make together. but i think the plan should come first | 00:03 |
ieatlint | ooh, naked pics of MohammadAG | 00:04 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: u have gf, and how is the "all the time with laptop" fights? | 00:04 |
ZogG_laptop | ieatlint: i have few :P | 00:04 |
MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: yeah | 00:05 |
MohammadAG | No fights, I hack at night | 00:05 |
MohammadAG | As in late night | 00:05 |
ieatlint | hot | 00:05 |
MohammadAG | 1/2-7 | 00:05 |
MohammadAG | ieatlint: fap fap fap | 00:05 |
MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: Yeah, stuff like thp's hackathons would be appreciated | 00:06 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: u know actually at night is the most interesting time with gf :P | 00:06 |
sneakyc4 | djszapi: u were right, my scratchbox was screwed maybe, coz of a uneeded standard lib in /lib/ | 00:07 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: yes, but we need plan as Asaf wouldn't come probably and as well i'm noob, so we need some real good task that we can stand | 00:07 |
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ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: jabber? u ignoring me? | 00:34 |
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ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: did ur laptop idled this time? :P | 00:42 |
ZogG_laptop | AAAAND HE'S GONE! (c) | 00:44 |
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Sazpaimon_ | nokia lauta :( | 02:00 |
Natunen | nokia lauta? | 02:05 |
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Sazpaimon_ | mynokiablog.com/2012/09/04/leaked-prototype-nokia-lauta-rm-742-cancelled-immediate-n9-successor/ | 02:06 |
Natunen | best product axed .. | 02:08 |
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Dante_J | Greetings all | 02:58 |
Dante_J | I'm looking for guidance as where to find emmc.bin for my N9 model. It's not showing in naviperl | 03:00 |
Dante_J | I flashed the main image, and now it won't mount in Mass Storage mode, with host log showing that it has an invalid partition table | 03:02 |
Dante_J | Some googling seemed to indicate that if I re-flashed and also flashed the emmc.bin that may help. Thoughts?? | 03:02 |
njsf | try an EMMC from another model with same PR_LEGACY | 03:10 |
njsf | In about product you will see on version (for PR 1.3) PR 1.3 (40.2012.21-3_PR_XXX) | 03:11 |
njsf | Try finding another model where PR_xxx matches yours and use that EMMC | 03:12 |
Dante_J | thank you njsf. I appreciate it. Will have a look. | 03:13 |
Dante_J | njsf, does the re-flashing of emmc.bin sound like it will fix the partitation table to you? I was wondering if I may need to resort to gparted or fdisk? | 03:14 |
njsf | That I don't know | 03:14 |
Dante_J | :( | 03:14 |
njsf | other people here are more knowledgable on that | 03:14 |
Dante_J | ok | 03:14 |
beford | it will restore it to default state | 03:14 |
beford | so yea, try to flash both and it should boot | 03:15 |
Dante_J | it boots fine - phone is running | 03:15 |
beford | I mean, emmc should be usable :P | 03:15 |
Dante_J | just won't mount on my laptop, so that I can copy backup files back | 03:15 |
Dante_J | ok, thanks beford | 03:15 |
beford | just so you know, if you had files on the emmc they will be lost once you flash | 03:16 |
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Dante_J | The reason for my first flash is that I had to do a --erase-user-data=secure as i forgot my dumb pass code. Tried about 40 versions of what I thought the passcode should be. Grrr | 03:18 |
* Dante_J looks for a emmc.bin based on njsf advice | 03:19 | |
beford | ah, you used -erase-user-data without the emmc image? | 03:19 |
Dante_J | yes | 03:19 |
Dante_J | is that a problem? | 03:19 |
beford | no but it explains why you cant mount it | 03:20 |
Dante_J | how so? | 03:20 |
beford | because it deleted it ? :P | 03:20 |
Dante_J | I thought the partition table would be independent of user-data | 03:21 |
Dante_J | user-data would be stored in a pre-configured partition and need not be modified. | 03:21 |
* Dante_J shrugs | 03:21 | |
beford | the whole emmc is user data | 03:22 |
Dante_J | Maybe I should read up on the #harmattan SDK or some such thing. My knowledge is wanting. | 03:22 |
* Dante_J changes topic | 03:22 | |
Dante_J | Here is the magic question in my mind: Will #harmattan benefit from a CSSU like the N900 does? | 03:23 |
Dante_J | Using Inception, might there be a way to make this possible? | 03:25 |
beford | it could | 03:25 |
beford | it's already possible to some extent, MohammadAG released an statusbar package with some added functionality that replaces Nokia one | 03:26 |
arcean | and I'm running some modified/patched system packages: http://fpaste.org/g0ju/ | 03:30 |
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sneakyc4 | http://paste.kde.org/544220/ | 03:55 |
sneakyc4 | lib/.libs/libvlc.so: undefined reference to `config_GetPszChoices' | 03:55 |
sneakyc4 | wrong channel sry | 03:55 |
pa | i have a component that is a delegate, and inside i have two labels. i am trying to set the visible: property of the two label so that if a parameter for that item is false, one is visible and the other not, and vice versa. so like visible: (label1visible)?true:false | 03:55 |
pa | but it doesnt work | 03:55 |
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pa | i am afraid the expression is not being evaluated or something | 03:56 |
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beford | sup | 03:59 |
beford | want to check my app pa? :p | 03:59 |
pa | yep | 03:59 |
pa | where is it? | 03:59 |
pa | i think i got the bloody error.. uint instead of int.. | 03:59 |
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pa | and what is it? :) | 04:03 |
beford | its called pomodoro, the time management technique | 04:04 |
beford | let me pm you the link | 04:04 |
pa | aha.. i heared about that | 04:04 |
pa | beford, cool, i will try it out tomorrow :) (now it's 3.00 Am here ) | 04:06 |
pa | beford, do you use such technique? | 04:07 |
beford | never | 04:07 |
beford | xD | 04:07 |
pa | do you think it's effective? | 04:07 |
pa | lol i see :) | 04:07 |
beford | some coworkers were talking about it | 04:07 |
beford | and got apps for android/ios | 04:07 |
beford | so I had to do it :P | 04:07 |
pa | haha : ) | 04:07 |
Dante_J | :) | 04:08 |
pa | btw i havent reinstalled qstardict | 04:08 |
pa | i will, before going to bed :) | 04:08 |
beford | heh, did you try the one on TMO? | 04:08 |
beford | it never passed QA .. but it worked ok for me even after reflash :/ | 04:09 |
pa | hmm.. | 04:09 |
pa | actually i think you are right | 04:10 |
pa | i think i got the sources and compiled it | 04:10 |
pa | but i see there is a non free version in the store.. | 04:10 |
pa | strange | 04:10 |
beford | that non free is mine too | 04:11 |
beford | :P | 04:11 |
beford | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84629 | 04:11 |
beford | but i uploaded a newer deb there | 04:11 |
pa | but is it possible that the sources are available on the web? | 04:13 |
pa | coz i remember i had it installed like 2-3 months ago.. | 04:13 |
pa | before reflashing 1.2 | 04:13 |
beford | oh there is another one called DictionaryStar something like that | 04:14 |
beford | that one is free on the store | 04:14 |
pa | ah maybe that one was it.. | 04:14 |
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Dante_J | Using naviperl I'm finding it difficult to find an emmc.bin for PR_299. None was available for my model number. Is there a shortcut, could I just guess some URLs? | 04:52 |
Dante_J | For eg, modify this one appropriately: http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1202/2419/6514978532/2D8061AC_DFL61_HARMATTAN_30.2012.07-1.MEA_EMMC_MEA.bin | 04:52 |
Dante_J | ? | 04:52 |
Dante_J | No hits, just misses for me looking for a PR_299 emmc.bin so far. Suggestions appreciated. | 04:54 |
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Dante_J | It's just silly how hard it is to find any emmc.bin, let alone one that suits 299 | 05:09 |
Sazpaimon_ | Dante_J, iirc you can really just use any EMMC | 05:09 |
Sazpaimon_ | when I got my N9 i flashed it with the global firmware+emmc variant when PR1.1 came out | 05:10 |
Sazpaimon_ | if youre already on PR1.3 though, youre stuck with whatever you got | 05:10 |
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Dante_J | I have the correct main bin for 1.3, and appropriate to my N9 model number, but can't find a EMMC | 05:11 |
Dante_J | searching other Australian versions | 05:11 |
Dante_J | and other "V1 - MR" versions | 05:11 |
Dante_J | none of them have an EMMC at all | 05:12 |
Sazpaimon_ | what's the product code for your N9? | 05:12 |
Dante_J | 059L7G7 | 05:13 |
Dante_J | PR_LEGACY_299 | 05:13 |
Dante_J | I'm following advice from njsf | 05:14 |
* Dante_J quotes | 05:14 | |
Sazpaimon_ | ]http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1208/2314/7087828450/DF5035B2_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.SEAP.16_EMMC_SEAP.bin | 05:14 |
Sazpaimon_ | should be it | 05:14 |
Dante_J | ok | 05:14 |
Dante_J | did you use naviperl.pl to find that? | 05:14 |
Sazpaimon_ | navifirm+ actually | 05:15 |
Dante_J | ok | 05:15 |
Dante_J | forgive all the questions, but did you search on the model number, and then did it suggest a EMMC? | 05:16 |
Sazpaimon_ | yeah | 05:16 |
Sazpaimon_ | you sure your N9 is australia variant? | 05:16 |
Dante_J | yes indeed | 05:16 |
Sazpaimon_ | yeah it is, okay | 05:16 |
Sazpaimon_ | SEAP = "South Eastern Asia and Pacific" | 05:16 |
Sazpaimon_ | which doesn't strike me as "Australia" | 05:17 |
Sazpaimon_ | though i guess australia is south pacific | 05:17 |
Dante_J | indeed | 05:17 |
Sazpaimon_ | as i've stated though, EMMC from the global variant usually works for any model | 05:18 |
Dante_J | Many thanks Sazpaimon_ - it was driving me batty to look for it using naviperl.pl - which is better than nothing | 05:18 |
Sazpaimon_ | though I usually pair it with a global firmware | 05:18 |
Dante_J | ok? | 05:18 |
Sazpaimon_ | but it's too late for you to use the global firmware if youre already on PR1.3 | 05:18 |
Sazpaimon_ | since it would technically be seen as a "downgrade" | 05:19 |
Sazpaimon_ | anyway, that EMMC should be what you need, regardless | 05:19 |
Dante_J | I'm looking for the emmc, as I did a re-flash, with --erase-user-data=secure and no emmc, and this lead to mount problems | 05:20 |
Dante_J | so thanks again | 05:20 |
Dante_J | what would be the major differences between the global firmware & region specific firmware? | 05:21 |
Sazpaimon_ | i dont think there is any really | 05:29 |
Dante_J | cool | 05:30 |
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Corsac | mpf, home screen settings is not free anymore | 09:25 |
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chem|st | good morning | 10:18 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | morning chem|st | 10:18 |
chem|st | I still have issues with modem restarting | 10:18 |
chem|st | does that happen to others? | 10:18 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry, can't help, doesn't happen to me | 10:19 |
chem|st | my modem restarts from time to time, just the modem afaict | 10:19 |
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Khertan_Work | Morning | 11:14 |
chem|st | o/ | 11:21 |
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ZogG_laptop | beford: ping | 12:27 |
ZogG_laptop | Khertan_Work: chem|st: sup | 12:27 |
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Oni^ | how to change users shell to bash in N9 does export SHELL=/bin/bash do it? | 12:36 |
DocScrutinizer05 | unlikely | 12:41 |
DocScrutinizer05 | how about chsh? (no idea if that's available) | 12:42 |
DocScrutinizer05 | the 'orthodox' way would be editing of /etc/passwd | 12:43 |
ZogG_laptop | chsh? | 12:43 |
DocScrutinizer05 | chsh(1) chsh(1) | 12:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | NAME | 12:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | chsh - change login shell | 12:44 |
ZogG_laptop | oh | 12:45 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I'd first make sure there's any bash to invoke ;-D | 12:45 |
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Khertan_Work | sup ZogG_laptop | 12:51 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Oni^: I think the answer is: "edit /etc/passwd" but check: | 12:53 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ~may-i-edit | 12:53 |
infobot | mayIedit () { grep "`basename $1`" /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && echo "probably not" && return; echo "edit if you feel venturous"; } | 12:53 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Oni^: be warned that this may render your system in an unbootable state and require a reflash to recover | 12:54 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | Oni^: I for one prefer to manually start bash after login | 12:55 |
DocScrutinizer05 | 5 little keystrokes that won't cause much colateral damage | 12:56 |
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M4rtinK | looks like Ovi QA is falling apart even further :) | 13:06 |
M4rtinK | they just tested my package with V20.2011.40-4_PR_001, which if I am not mistaken is PR 1.0 | 13:06 |
ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: what now? | 13:06 |
ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: btw i added translation. tell me when deb is out so i'll check on device | 13:07 |
ZogG_laptop | ~pr1.0 | 13:07 |
ZogG_laptop | ~pr10 | 13:07 |
M4rtinK | and when I connect to an N9 with RDA, it has no internet connectivity :D | 13:07 |
ZogG_laptop | no info :P | 13:07 |
Oni^ | I'm trying to get 'export PATH=$PATH:/opt/irssi/bin:/usr/games:.' executed automatically when I start terminal as user | 13:07 |
M4rtinK | it sees a bunch of wireless networks though (Nokia, GUEST, RDA5, RDA6) but won't connect to any | 13:08 |
M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: it should be already released since yesterday | 13:08 |
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ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: i only added missing strings yesterday | 13:10 |
ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: sup | 13:10 |
Hurrian | Can anyone grab the newest busybox-devel-su for me? Enabling developer-mode using the normal way destroys battery life. | 13:10 |
Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, sup | 13:10 |
pa | morning | 13:10 |
ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: why would it destroy battery? | 13:10 |
pa | whats the normal way? | 13:11 |
pa | switch in the options? | 13:11 |
Hurrian | yup | 13:11 |
Hurrian | enabling dev mode the normal way drops battery estimate from ~10 days on standby to 4 days | 13:11 |
pa | why does it drain battery? | 13:11 |
M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: the latest package is here: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/MartinK:/mieru/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/ | 13:11 |
pa | Hurrian, on.. 1.3? | 13:11 |
Hurrian | pa, mmhm. | 13:12 |
pa | this is a test i havent done, tbh.. | 13:12 |
Hurrian | it may be just placebo, but it's one of my nitpicks | 13:12 |
pa | i hate that 1.3 drains the battery, but now that u say that, maybe i should try to switch dev mode off | 13:12 |
ZogG_laptop | pa: btw u had this 20 → 4 % thing? | 13:13 |
ZogG_laptop | i think i saw some people with advices on it on twitter | 13:13 |
pa | yes i have that | 13:13 |
pa | ah cool | 13:13 |
pa | link? :) | 13:13 |
ZogG_laptop | no link | 13:14 |
ZogG_laptop | i think i saw it when people talked | 13:14 |
Oni^ | how to upgrade dep with dpkg | 13:14 |
ZogG_laptop | so can't help you with that. just bumped in it few days ago thru internet/twitter | 13:14 |
ZogG_laptop | Oni^: why dpkg? | 13:15 |
pa | Hurrian, but if i turn it off, then all those pkgs are uninstalled.. | 13:15 |
Oni^ | Is there anyother way install this http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/gnugo/3.8-1/ | 13:16 |
Oni^ | I'v already got gnugo-3.7.10 | 13:17 |
ZogG_laptop | Oni^: it's freemantle | 13:18 |
ZogG_laptop | fremantle | 13:19 |
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Oni^ | who to get one for N9 | 13:19 |
Oni^ | *how | 13:19 |
djszapi | wow, mesa was ported also to harmattan | 13:19 |
djszapi | great. | 13:19 |
pa | ZogG_laptop, ah okay. but u see, the problem exists, and nokia better do something about that | 13:19 |
ZogG_laptop | pa: they did | 13:20 |
pa | did they? when? | 13:20 |
ZogG_laptop | pa: when they discontinued harmattan obv :P | 13:20 |
pa | :D | 13:20 |
pa | btw i still dont get how can osX be so damn quicker than linux.. | 13:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | not that fremantle cmdline binaries were particularly unsuited for HARM | 13:22 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I simply copied i2ctools and bash from my N900 (yes, the binaries, and yes once you get them to start thanks paegis, they run like a charm) | 13:23 |
djszapi | DocScrutinizer05: see, paegis is your friend? :) | 13:24 |
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ZogG_laptop | :P | 13:27 |
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djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/m/mesa/ -> oh, there are no arm binaries. | 13:29 |
djszapi | that is unfortunate. | 13:30 |
* djszapi will try to build mesa in scratchbox then | 13:30 | |
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ZogG_laptop | djszapi: why do u need it? | 13:32 |
djszapi | ZogG_laptop: the sgx opengles 2 implementation is broken. | 13:34 |
djszapi | we have tried to fix that in Qt5 upstream, but we do not have a nice solution for that, thus for the time being, I am patching qt5 while packaging. | 13:34 |
djszapi | this way I could use a vanilla qt5 without any custom patches. | 13:35 |
djszapi | (same issue for fremantle as well fwiw) | 13:35 |
ZogG_laptop | =( | 13:35 |
M4rtinK | oh, nice, another RDA bug - the PR 1.1 devices are actually upgraded to PR 1.3 :D | 13:38 |
ZogG_laptop | RDA? | 13:41 |
ZogG_laptop | ~rda | 13:41 |
djszapi | Remote Device Access | 13:41 |
pa | so no hack yet to downgrade the firmware? | 13:43 |
ZogG_laptop | pa: you need signed bootloader for that as far as i understand :P | 13:45 |
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pa | ah i see | 13:48 |
M4rtinK | oh, this is getting better and better - they have 8 N9s in the pool, but only one is actually online :D | 13:49 |
ZogG_laptop | pa: you need to sign the modified one so current would allow u to installl it | 13:49 |
M4rtinK | some engineers must have taken them when leaving :) | 13:49 |
ZogG_laptop | and than in modified you need to unable downgrade and unsigned kernels and stuff :P | 13:49 |
pa | it sucks :) | 13:50 |
ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: they switched them with lumia | 13:50 |
M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: hh | 13:50 |
ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: what are you testing there? | 13:50 |
Hurrian | so, uhh, can anyone apt-get -d busybox-devel-su? | 13:50 |
ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: i tried it does nothing | 13:51 |
Hurrian | apt-get install -d --reinstall busybox-devel-su | 13:51 |
M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: I'm trying to check why my application supposedly doesn't work on PR 1.0 | 13:51 |
M4rtinK | but I'll probably soon execute the backup plan | 13:51 |
M4rtinK | spamming new versions until the underpaid Indian student on the other side has at least PR 1.2 and it passes | 13:52 |
ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: busybox-devel-su_3%3a1.19-8+0m6_armel.deb :P | 13:52 |
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Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, that's perfect | 13:54 |
ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2336306/busybox-devel-su_3%253a1.19-8%2B0m6_armel.deb | 13:56 |
Hurrian | cool, thanks! | 13:56 |
ZogG_laptop | i think it screwed the name though :P | 13:57 |
Hurrian | hmm, it says invalid installation package. Can you MD5 it? | 13:59 |
ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: rename it | 14:01 |
Hurrian | ah | 14:01 |
ZogG_laptop | ed9cc1a45a7f5a4d80b973119d803300 | 14:01 |
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pa | http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/04/unreleased-nokia-lauta-qwerty-slider-emerges/ tho you guys probably all knew | 14:24 |
GeneralAntilles | Imagine a different world. | 14:25 |
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chem|st | pa: there was talking about a n950/n9 merge qwerty release years ago | 14:31 |
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TheBootroo | hi !! | 14:42 |
TheBootroo | i deploy an app on N9 with QtSDk, i have set an icon for menu (80x80) and for package manager (64x64), the one for package manager works but the menu show red square, even after reboot.... | 14:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | TheBootroo: check your desktop file | 14:44 |
TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: in .desktop (generated by QtCreator) the line is Icon=MyProjectName | 14:45 |
Hurrian | pa, if that was released, everything would've changed | 14:46 |
pa | heh sure :) | 14:46 |
Hurrian | a device with roughly the same dimensions as the N9, but with a keyboard. | 14:46 |
pa | you mean.. an n950 | 14:46 |
TheBootroo | and this file is deployed by the package into /usr/share/icons/hicolor/80x80/apps | 14:46 |
TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: | 14:46 |
Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, figured out the error. "Package is not user package", tee hee. Time to repackage the deb. | 14:50 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | TheBootroo: shouldn't it be /usr/share/icons/hicolor/80x80/apps/myapp.png | 14:50 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | instead ? | 14:50 |
jpnurmi | any ideas for generating file "preview" thumbnails? should support common image formats, txt, html, pdf etc. | 14:50 |
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M4rtinK | just sent an email about all the Ovi & RDA issues to Nokia | 14:55 |
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M4rtinK | hope there is still someone left to respond :D | 14:55 |
pa | jpnurmi, you mean you want a preview of the pdf content in the thumbnail, for example? | 14:57 |
jpnurmi | pa: yes | 14:57 |
pa | hm.. doesnt sound straightforward to rasterize the first page of a pdf to a thumb.. | 14:58 |
jpnurmi | pa: i could use QPrinter for pdfs, QImage/QPixmap for images, etc... just wondering if some readily available solution exists | 14:58 |
pa | but maybe there are some libraries that do that | 14:58 |
pa | ah i see | 14:59 |
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pa | i guess qprinter would work for txt and html too, right? | 15:00 |
jpnurmi | hmm, let's see how dolphin does it | 15:00 |
TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: it worked | 15:00 |
jpnurmi | except that it doesn't handle pdf it seems :( | 15:01 |
TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: strange though, because on linux .desktop we need only the name of icon, and the theme engine automatically finds the filename | 15:01 |
pa | jpnurmi, technically, couldnt you use qprinter for everything? i dont know eh.. never used it | 15:02 |
jpnurmi | pa: i just realized qprinter can only output pdfs... | 15:03 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | not on harmattan | 15:06 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | they don't have the same engine | 15:06 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it depends on the DE to support icons | 15:06 |
djszapiN9 | Sfiet_Konstantin, where are you from? | 15:07 |
pa | jpnurmi, apparently some guy rasterized pdf using gs in an external process | 15:09 |
pa | is there gs on harmattan? | 15:09 |
djszapiN9 | what is gs? | 15:10 |
pa | ghostscript | 15:10 |
djszapiN9 | there is iirc | 15:10 |
pa | then it might work | 15:10 |
pa | slowly tho :) | 15:10 |
djszapiN9 | why don't you run apt-cache search? | 15:10 |
pa | jpnurmi, or imagemagick, if there is that too and you are feeling lucky (as it always produces wrong conversions :p) | 15:11 |
djszapiN9 | there is | 15:12 |
djszapiN9 | again, why not use the tools? | 15:12 |
pa | jeez i cant even imagine how slow would imagemagick be on the N9 :) | 15:13 |
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Khertan_Work | Webcast : The service is unavailable. | 16:59 |
Khertan_Work | Mouarf | 16:59 |
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jonni | reload helped :) | 17:14 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni, am i missing or you are not in codding competition? | 17:17 |
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jonni | I am, but I havent bothered to submit yet. | 17:20 |
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pa | jonni, by the way, what about that tool to extract qml from qrc? O:-) | 17:28 |
pa | he he | 17:29 |
hiemanshu | pa: strings <file name> will give you most of it mostly :P | 17:31 |
pa | yep, actually in my case just editing it show me the most, but you know.. if it would be possible to get all of it, it would be better :) | 17:32 |
hiemanshu | do that ^ | 17:33 |
hiemanshu | you'll just have to split them yourself :P | 17:33 |
* Khertan_Work #jolla will have some announce soon | 17:35 | |
Sfiet_Konstantin | are you sure Khertan_Work ? | 17:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | all right, soon is ok | 17:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but how soon | 17:36 |
Khertan_Work | Sfiet_Konstantin: nope the word hope was missing | 17:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Nokia soon ? | 17:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | oh well yeah | 17:36 |
* Khertan_Work hope #jolla will have some announce soon | 17:36 | |
Khertan_Work | sorry | 17:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Jolla hackday is coming | 17:36 |
Khertan_Work | yeah ... | 17:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and I'm more exited about that | 17:36 |
Khertan_Work | clearly | 17:37 |
Khertan_Work | i would expect a live crash or funny error for the nokia world | 17:37 |
pa | and any chance that nokia will restart the maemo division, once Elop will be fired? :) | 17:37 |
Khertan_Work | but streaming not working | 17:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it is impossible | 17:37 |
chem|st | Khertan_Work: I hope they have the lauta blueprints | 17:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | they fired all Maemo people | 17:37 |
pa | well, they can hire them back | 17:37 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | if you want to get Maemo device, you can only hope at Jolla | 17:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | pa: Nokia need to have money | 17:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | to hire | 17:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | but they burnt it with useless WP7 ads | 17:38 |
pa | well, they wont make money by not selling smartphones :) | 17:38 |
chem|st | well maemo was invented with a group of outsourced people, right? | 17:38 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | pa: MS is feeding them | 17:39 |
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pa | yes, and soon MS feed will end | 17:39 |
Khertan_Work | or bought them | 17:39 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Nokia lost their only capabilities of innovating and differenciation by selling Qt / Maemo and co | 17:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | they don't have any R&D on SW | 17:40 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | from now, they are only "normal" manufacturers like sammy or HTC | 17:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | nothing more | 17:41 |
chem|st | symbian is still 10years ahead of ios development wise, but they dropped it... | 17:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | chem|st: well, you have to agree that Symbian have huge weakness | 17:41 |
Khertan_Work | chem|st: 10years ahead ... hum ... a bit optimistic | 17:41 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | hard to maintain & stuff | 17:41 |
chem|st | Sfiet_Konstantin: example? | 17:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | why did they need 1 year to port Qt on it ? | 17:42 |
Khertan_Work | chem|st: the only good point of symbian is that we can use Qt | 17:42 |
Khertan_Work | :) | 17:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | it is known that they had problems sw wise. They were always late at delivering on symbian | 17:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | although symbian is nice, it is indeed too old | 17:42 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and I appreciate what mer is doing | 17:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | reconstructing an OS on the simplest way possible | 17:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and clean way | 17:43 |
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Khertan_Work | NOK:-0.38(-13.43%) | 18:09 |
Khertan_Work | arf | 18:09 |
pa | ? | 18:12 |
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phako | khertan: cool, you get 38ct if you buy nokia stocks? ;) | 18:53 |
pa | im sure if they fire elop, the stock would skyrocket :) | 18:55 |
pa | good for speculation | 18:56 |
valdur55 | oh. it will go some time downline and then very fast back to up | 18:57 |
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mzanetti | anyone here already investigated on how to access the media buttons on the lockscreen ever since we have openmode/inception? | 19:07 |
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ZogG_laptop | anyone know how to get ascii codes of char in C ? | 19:34 |
phako | if it's an ascii char, just cast. | 19:35 |
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jpnurmi | i can see ghostscript at http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/g/ghostscript/ but apt-get says E: Couldn't find package ghostscript ? | 19:54 |
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jonni | jpnurmi: and you have that repo in your scratchbox etc/apt ? | 20:09 |
jonni | and remembered to run update before get :) | 20:10 |
jpnurmi | jonni: on the device | 20:10 |
jonni | jpnurmi: harmattan-dev repo is only meant for scratchbox and not the device. | 20:10 |
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jpnurmi | so i must add an extra apt source for that? i guess i cannot depend on that package in an app that would be submitted to store then :( | 20:10 |
jonni | jpnurmi: yes you cannot depend to that for ovi store apps. | 20:11 |
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ZogG_laptop | phako, yeah thanks, it didn't work as it was char c="A"; and i needed char c='A'; :P | 20:16 |
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phako | well the first is not a char :-= | 20:16 |
phako | :-P | 20:16 |
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e-yes | hi all | 20:23 |
e-yes | I like waking-up gusture on n9 (double-tap). Anyone has an idea how it's implemented? Is it implemented in touch controller firmware? Is it possible to implement custom gustures and get IRQ when it was detected by FW? | 20:23 |
djszapiN9 | harmattan repository is a must have on the device though | 20:25 |
djszapiN9 | if the community repository is invoked by someone. | 20:25 |
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jonni | e-yes: yes in firmware and no you cannot implement custom gestures for it. | 20:47 |
e-yes | jonni, is double-tap only implemented gesture OR there is some set of "pre-loaded" gestures that device makers can choose from? | 20:51 |
jonni | e-yes: the only | 20:51 |
e-yes | ok, thanks | 20:52 |
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ieatlint | the double-tap is one of the features i really like on the n9/50 | 20:58 |
ieatlint | probably in part because i'm left handed and the damn unlock buttons on phones are never that convenient | 20:59 |
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sivang | so wireless charging? wtf | 21:11 |
sivang | (lumia 920) | 21:11 |
sivang | ZogG_laptop: ^ | 21:11 |
sivang | MohammadAG: ^ | 21:11 |
Arie | its possible on n9 | 21:11 |
sivang | Arie: how so? | 21:11 |
Arie | its been done on the lumia 800 | 21:11 |
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ZogG_laptop | sivang, hey | 21:12 |
Arie | design is similar on n9 | 21:12 |
sivang | Arie: how is this soccery possible? | 21:12 |
sivang | ZogG_laptop: 'sup? | 21:12 |
ZogG_laptop | sivang, i uploaded photos of naked MohammadAG as promised | 21:12 |
sivang | hahaha | 21:13 |
e-yes | шалунишка | 21:13 |
sivang | he's not answering | 21:13 |
ZogG_laptop | e-yes, :P | 21:14 |
ZogG_laptop | sivang, you need to go to the Tesla grave and get him back to life and give him N9 :P | 21:15 |
Arie | weird | 21:15 |
Arie | lol | 21:15 |
Arie | its possible, i wont say much till it happens | 21:15 |
sivang | Arie: hoax ? | 21:16 |
Arie | no | 21:16 |
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sivang | Arie: is there an update expected to enable N9 to do wireless charging that you won't talk about until it happens? :) | 21:17 |
ZogG_laptop | like never :P | 21:18 |
Arie | no, im talking to the guy that modded the Lumia 800 to help me do it on the n9 | 21:18 |
sivang | nice | 21:18 |
ZogG_laptop | sivang, MohammadAG http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_zogg/sets/72157631423446338/ | 21:18 |
Arie | i have a few n9's lying around so might as well | 21:19 |
ZogG_laptop | Arie, you can take two N9 and use as charger like in medicine is someone | 21:19 |
sivang | ZogG_laptop: hmog, I look like a troll | 21:19 |
ZogG_laptop | if some's heart stopped | 21:19 |
Arie | from left to right? | 21:19 |
ZogG_laptop | Arie, which photo? | 21:19 |
ZogG_laptop | first is Shturman damagedspline MohammadAG sivang | 21:20 |
sivang | we were the middle eastern harmattan user group in full capacity last night | 21:20 |
Arie | damn | 21:21 |
Arie | i should have been there too | 21:21 |
sivang | Arie: you from .il as well? | 21:21 |
sivang | ZogG_laptop: I should never smile | 21:22 |
sivang | anyway, laters all | 21:22 |
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Arie | no, the us | 21:22 |
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ZogG_laptop | anyone here is a friend with visual studio on win? | 22:39 |
sneakyc4 | Technically, oculd the N9 do proper 720p decoding? | 22:40 |
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phako | ZogG_laptop: what for? | 22:55 |
ZogG_laptop | phako, solved it by reverting to last commit | 22:55 |
phako | ok | 22:55 |
ZogG_laptop | it fucked up the encode of text in visual itself | 22:56 |
ZogG_laptop | like encode of code i write | 22:56 |
phako | yeah | 22:56 |
phako | that happens sometimes | 22:56 |
ZogG_laptop | and didn't compile with wierd error | 22:56 |
ZogG_laptop | fucking windows | 22:56 |
ZogG_laptop | i hope it happens on Lumias with contacts :P | 22:56 |
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njsf | N9 contacts only syncs with one MfE ?! | 22:59 |
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pa | sneakyc4, technically, 3630 specs say yes | 23:17 |
pa | njsf, out of stock, yes | 23:18 |
njsf | pa: any hack ? | 23:18 |
pa | to sync withwhat? | 23:18 |
njsf | with another MfE account | 23:18 |
pa | ah | 23:18 |
njsf | or to switch the MfE account it syncs with | 23:18 |
pa | not that i am aware of | 23:18 |
pa | where do you have your contacts? | 23:18 |
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njsf | 2 Google accounts + Work | 23:19 |
pa | ok | 23:19 |
pa | for google you can try syncgcontacts | 23:19 |
njsf | using Mfe to the 2 google accounts for Calendar mostly | 23:19 |
njsf | It just seems that the 1st MfE wins | 23:19 |
pa | but then it wouldnt play nicely with the third Mf3, i guess | 23:19 |
njsf | I'm now going to remove the 3 MfE and add work, where I have the most contacts | 23:19 |
pa | i mean, the third MfE would probably try to sync the gmail contacts | 23:20 |
njsf | afterwards I could try to force sync in accounts.db | 23:20 |
njsf | setting sync/contacts value to 1 | 23:20 |
pa | work is local server? | 23:20 |
njsf | no, ActiveSync | 23:20 |
pa | ah ok | 23:20 |
pa | well in your case im not sure i can help | 23:21 |
njsf | thanks for trying ! | 23:21 |
pa | no problem :) | 23:21 |
njsf | I mostly just wanted to confirm this was expected behavior | 23:21 |
pa | if you decide to keep everything on gmail acounts, then you could be lucky | 23:21 |
njsf | Well when I get another job I wmight try that | 23:22 |
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njsf | but my current employer is anal enough that it replaces the SSL certificate when accessing google search | 23:22 |
njsf | so I won't sync ANYTHING through their network that is personal | 23:22 |
njsf | if they don't trust, I won't trust :) | 23:23 |
pa | lol jeez is that even legal? | 23:23 |
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njsf | yes, it is their network and SOX act gives them the excuse they have to "log" all communications | 23:24 |
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njsf | it does not help that gmail cert is same as google.com search cert | 23:24 |
pa | thats interesting.. | 23:25 |
njsf | they even install their internal cert via the Microsoft management | 23:25 |
njsf | which Chrome just eats up | 23:25 |
pa | but do you have to sync while at work? | 23:25 |
njsf | but Firefox knows better :) | 23:25 |
njsf | No, not really, but I can only access the mailbox when connected to their network via VPN | 23:26 |
njsf | so the only opening is really OWA | 23:26 |
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njsf | or MfE whatever you want to call it | 23:26 |
pa | no i mean, if you would have all your contacts on gmail accounts, or also on gmail accounts | 23:26 |
njsf | I might do an export soon yes | 23:27 |
pa | then you could use syncgcontacts | 23:27 |
njsf | but once I do that, I'll actually prefer having my own SyncML server | 23:27 |
njsf | BTW, anyone does the contacts sync via SyncML server like funambol or something ? | 23:28 |
pa | i think you can do something like that with syncevolution | 23:28 |
njsf | I have to set something like that up | 23:29 |
njsf | Ever since Nokia shutdown their contact sync (sigh) | 23:29 |
piggz | lo | 23:30 |
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njsf | also, any way to import a VCF ? | 23:40 |
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