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| njsf1 | Anyone using CODeRUS System UI from N9QTweaks ? | 00:57 |
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| Hurrian | alright, building 2.6.32.59 for the N9 now. | 01:54 |
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| Hurrian | anyone want to test this? I don't feel like putting my device in Openmode yet. | 02:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: i can test it on funtoo | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | did you apply all patches? | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i wouldn't be able to try battery and things like that | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | only if it boots | 02:08 |
| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, updated nokia's tree to .59 | 02:12 |
| Hurrian | no problems. | 02:12 |
| Hurrian | would you like one with Aegis disabled in the kernel? | 02:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'll compile it myself | 02:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | just sources needed | 02:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | or aegis is not an option in kernel after all? | 02:14 |
| Hurrian | it's an option in kernel | 02:15 |
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| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, doing a sanity build | 02:18 |
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| Hurrian | ah, there, found the call where the .rej failed | 02:26 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: ping me tomorrow | 02:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | or zogg at noicq org | 02:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | jabber ^ | 02:33 |
| Hurrian | mmhm. | 02:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | night | 02:37 |
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| louisdk | First boot after updating my N950 to PR1.3 by leaked "ROM". Seems like everything is right :) | 03:06 |
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| Hurrian | louisdk, whoa, looks like a real PR1.3 similar to N9's. | 03:19 |
| louisdk | Hurrian: Yes :) Thnx på Pirate Bay :) | 03:34 |
| louisdk | Home screen sittings not free anymore. Well. Then'll just ssh to my phone and hack it myself :P | 03:36 |
| Hurrian | it's probably an unhappy Nokia employee at the buildmachine, it seems. | 03:37 |
| louisdk | Most Harmattan devs got fired to I understand them. It not fair not to update a dev phone IMO. | 03:39 |
| louisdk | *so I | 03:39 |
| Hurrian | also, regarding HSS being paid, a lot of popular Harmattan apps are too, so I'm not too surprised | 03:40 |
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| louisdk | This page is pretty helpful: http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950 :) | 03:49 |
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| Hurrian | wow, the Nokia patches to 2.6.32.54 amount to ~16MB | 06:43 |
| Hurrian | that's a LOT of patches | 06:44 |
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| thedead1440 | hi could someone advice on how to get tar-gnu on the n9? | 07:22 |
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| thedead1440 | reason i needed tar-gnu was due to this error when building deb on the n9 itself: | 07:29 |
| thedead1440 | tar: unrecognized option '--format=gnu' | 07:29 |
| thedead1440 | BusyBox v1.20.0.git (MeeGo 3:1.20-0.2+0m8) multi-call binary. | 07:29 |
| thedead1440 | Usage: tar -[cxtzjhmvO] [-X FILE] [-T FILE] [-f TARFILE] [-C DIR] [FILE]... | 07:29 |
| thedead1440 | dpkg-deb: subprocess tar -cf returned error exit status 1 | 07:29 |
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| thedead1440 | hi i posted this in #harmattan but maybe this is the right channel to post it :D: | 08:01 |
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| RzR | djszapi, add u to testing | 10:38 |
| RzR | djszapi, but please also request :unstable this is the prefered place to upload stuff | 10:39 |
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| Hurrian | ~aegis-no-thanks | 11:12 |
| infobot | i heard aegis-no-thanks is http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1178281#post1178281 | 11:12 |
| Hurrian | Does anyone know if there are any UBIFS or JFFS2 filesystems on the N9/50? | 11:16 |
| Hurrian | I think we can take those out of the kernel config | 11:16 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: saw ur post :) | 12:00 |
| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, you gotta flash it from flasher-3.12 | 12:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | nope i'm not | 12:13 |
| Hurrian | it seems that something restricts flashing it from MeeGo | 12:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | asi told you i can check on funtoo | 12:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | on n950 | 12:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | no on main system | 12:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: not something but system | 12:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | afaik there are way u need to sign kernel to be able to flash it | 12:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: did you try to flash on device yourself | 12:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | ? | 12:14 |
| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, yeah, flashed it using the open mode kernel method | 12:14 |
| Hurrian | also, the kernel sources are there, apply it to 2.6.32.54 from kernel.org | 12:15 |
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| djszapi_ | RzR: you uselessly post to djszapi | 12:17 |
| djszapi_ | that is running on the server, I do not check at home. | 12:18 |
| djszapi_ | also, unstable was already accepted, so I did not have to request that. | 12:18 |
| djszapi_ | Moreover, how do you plan to fix the bugs in the community repository that cannot be reproduced in testing? | 12:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: didn't u upload patched source already? | 12:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | I'm compiling it on device | 12:19 |
| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, too big to post | 12:19 |
| Hurrian | it's going to take me hours to upload a patched tree | 12:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | put it on dropbox or something | 12:19 |
| Hurrian | kernel.org .54 -> harmattan .54 -> kernel-plus .59 | 12:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's what i tried | 12:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: what about OTG? | 12:20 |
| djszapi_ | RzR: need to leave the noise here :) | 12:20 |
| djszapi_ | feel free to ping me in private | 12:21 |
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| Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, USB OTG? | 12:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeap | 12:23 |
| Hurrian | no clue about it being supported | 12:23 |
| Hurrian | lemme check the config for what USB chip it uses | 12:23 |
| Hurrian | we're still going to be missing ID pins and the like | 12:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni told that he tried something once, not sure if he finished it | 12:24 |
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| RzR | djszapi, lpapp kde.org is your regular email ? | 12:51 |
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| jpnurmi | is there any way to debug why dh_builddeb (dpkg-deb --build) takes so long for a certain project? | 13:34 |
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| merlin1991 | jpnurmi: DH_VERBOSE=1 and then read | 13:54 |
| jpnurmi | merlin1991: the problem is, when i export DH_VERBOSE=1, i can only see the 'dpkg-deb --build ..' command and nothing else | 13:54 |
| jpnurmi | actually, when i run dpkg-deb --build alone from command line, it seems to be almost instant | 13:55 |
| merlin1991 | huge amount of data to compress maybe? | 13:55 |
| jpnurmi | on the other hand, when i run the whole "QtSDK/Madde/bin/mad dpkg-buildpackage -nc -uc -us" from command line, the dpkg-deb --build step takes very long as in minutes | 13:55 |
| jpnurmi | btw, this is on mac if it makes any difference | 13:56 |
| jpnurmi | hmm, looks like it's stuck at objdump | 13:58 |
| djszapiN9 | jpnurmi, have you tried to cross compile for the raspberry pi on mac? | 13:58 |
| jpnurmi | djszapi: nope | 13:58 |
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| djszapi_ | RzR: I think I figured out why all those things are broken | 15:22 |
| djszapi_ | this is most likely due to the introduction for other targets. | 15:23 |
| djszapi_ | They do not see each other. | 15:23 |
| djszapi_ | please do not do that. | 15:23 |
| djszapi_ | remove the useless and breakage-leading targets. | 15:23 |
| djszapi_ | the life will be much simpler and lovely. | 15:23 |
| djszapi_ | and that is exactly the problem for the exiv stuff as well | 15:25 |
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| louisdk | h | 15:40 |
| djszapi_ | Venemo: sup Qt5 hacker :D | 15:42 |
| louisdk | Hi. The N950 does not have the wallpapers of the N9. Does anyone know where I can find it? :) | 15:43 |
| mankeli | download emmc firmware with navifirm, and extract them | 15:44 |
| louisdk | mankell: Are you talking to me? | 15:49 |
| mankeli | yes | 15:50 |
| mankeli | well, of course easiest would be to ask someone with n9 to tar them up for you, but you can also do it like that | 15:51 |
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| louisdk | mankell: Do you have an N9? | 15:56 |
| mankeli | yes | 15:56 |
| louisdk | Will you tar the wallpapers for me? You can ex. put them up on zippyshare.com | 15:59 |
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| mankeli | hmm i wonder where they are | 16:06 |
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| mankeli | lucido: http://hatemachine.electrontu.be/~mankeli/n9_bgs.tar.bz2 | 16:11 |
| mankeli | oho, louisdk | 16:11 |
| mankeli | please tell me when you have fetched those | 16:11 |
| lucido | ninja | 16:11 |
| louisdk | mankell: thnx | 16:11 |
| louisdk | got it :) | 16:12 |
| louisdk | I really wondered why I loved the N900 and later the N959 until someone one day said, it's just like a little computer. | 16:20 |
| mankeli | okay | 16:20 |
| mankeli | well i always get this funny feeling when i ssh into my phone via wifi, but i have no idea where the phone _physically_ is located | 16:21 |
| mankeli | :) | 16:21 |
| louisdk | he he :) | 16:28 |
| valdur55 | same here :D | 16:28 |
| louisdk | well. You can also enable ssh on Android and iOS but they don't feel like "real *nix" :p | 16:34 |
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| louisdk | Am I the only one that think the touch kb on Harmattan is not that responsive and not so good? | 16:36 |
| valdur55 | I use drovak keyboard layout | 16:39 |
| mankeli | well if you have n950, i'm suprised since you don't have to use that | 16:40 |
| mankeli | oops, i meant that i'm not suprised | 16:40 |
| mankeli | since if you have to use the vkb, you'll get used to it | 16:41 |
| faenil | louisdk, yeahs it's not good and not responsive, I agree | 16:41 |
| faenil | (compared to WP's) | 16:41 |
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| louisdk | I have used an N9 as my main phone for 3-4 and ever get used to it. A lot of mistyping. I think the Android vkb is better and then the iOS vkb is best. | 16:52 |
| valdur55 | you can customize your vkb layout | 16:53 |
| louisdk | the Harmattan vkb feels like something made in the last minute. | 16:54 |
| louisdk | i only use the vkb when I'm searching in my adress book. | 16:54 |
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| louisdk | enabled the n9 repo, installed the wallpaper package and disabled the repo again. | 17:13 |
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| djszapi_ | Hey guys! Which one do you think more important: Qt5 and the KDE stack or gtk on Harmattan? | 17:37 |
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| louisdk | now with N9 skypeplugin working on my N950. | 17:39 |
| rzr | djszapi, u're cheating | 17:40 |
| virtuald | don't use skype | 17:40 |
| rzr | both are important,but i agrea qt has a higher priority | 17:40 |
| Venemo | hey rzr | 17:44 |
| Venemo | who the F*** cares about gtk anymore anyway? | 17:44 |
| Venemo | me wants Qt 5 | 17:44 |
| rzr | i do too | 17:44 |
| Venemo | so, rm -rf everything that is gtk | 17:45 |
| Venemo | I mean, gtk wasn't even designed to work in an environment like this | 17:45 |
| Venemo | there is a reason why even the gnome people are starting to do things in javascript | 17:45 |
| rzr | dont we do the same w/ qml ? | 17:46 |
| rzr | djszapi, dont import it all | 17:46 |
| Venemo | my point exactly | 17:46 |
| rzr | i can delete that repo | 17:46 |
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| rzr | djszapi, i deleted that side target as requested https://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan | 17:47 |
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| rzr | djszapi, now u can do that qt5 job | 17:47 |
| rzr | djszapi, no need to fork it | 17:48 |
| rzr | djszapi, i also rm gtk | 17:48 |
| rzr | djszapi, Package 'gtk+2.0' was removed successfully from project 'home:rzr:harmattan' | 17:48 |
| Venemo | gtk3 or raw clutter api with gobject introspection _might_ be up to making a good UI on mobiles, but gtk2 definitely isn't | 17:49 |
| Venemo | that's why nokia did hildon, remember? and even they failed miserably | 17:49 |
| Venemo | so anyway | 17:50 |
| Venemo | I'll stop ranting now | 17:50 |
| rzr | i am gone later.... | 17:51 |
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| louisdk | I prefer Jabber and only use msn and skype fro contacts that do prefer this. The chatting on my mainly text and nothing personal. Lucky some of my contacts do have GTalk :) | 17:53 |
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| Venemo | what I talked about has nothing to do with that | 17:55 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: ping | 18:12 |
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| louisdk | Hi again. I wad disconnected. | 18:39 |
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| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: hey | 18:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | arcean: hey | 18:39 |
| arcean | ZogG_laptop, hi | 18:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | rZr: still had no time for the pckgs but i didn't forget | 18:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | arcean: sup, what was the last thing u was hacking, remind me | 18:40 |
| arcean | ZogG_laptop, https://gitorious.org/harmattan-projects/controlpanel/commit/4c39aa5f0cd09d6a6264c0624cfcdb434b87839d | 18:41 |
| louisdk | My N950 needs a new battery. Would you recommand BV-5JW 1450 mAh (for N9) BV-4D 1400 mAh (or 808) or another? Is there a 1600 mAh? :) | 18:41 |
| louisdk | *1500 MAh | 18:41 |
| arcean | louisdk, buy the one for 808 PV | 18:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | arcean: oh, right, setting thing :P | 18:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: why would it need new one? how old is your phone? | 18:42 |
| arcean | yes, landscape mode built on top of the master branch | 18:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: ping | 18:43 |
| Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: pong | 18:43 |
| louisdk | ZogG_laptop: The battery life is pretty bad. It last about 8-10 hours, just using it at home. No 3G connection enabled. | 18:43 |
| louisdk | arcean: It has 50 mAh less than the one for N9. Why is it better to buy the one for 808? | 18:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: did you make those icons u posted? | 18:44 |
| Kozzi | yeah | 18:44 |
| arcean | louisdk, original N950 battery has only 1200mAh | 18:44 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: maybe you can help with icon for widgets lock screen? | 18:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | e-yes: privet | 18:45 |
| louisdk | arcean: I know. The battery for the N9 has 1450mAh and the one for 808 has 1400mAh- right? | 18:45 |
| arcean | louisdk, the one for N9 doesn't fit to the N950 | 18:46 |
| Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: I think the author wanted svg | 18:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: and you can't do it as svg? | 18:46 |
| Kozzi | and I suck with illustrator | 18:47 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: pong | 18:47 |
| jonni | arcean: your wrong, original n950 battery is BV-4D and its 1320mAh | 18:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: is it bootloader itself prevent for kernel update on N9? i mean if it's open mode, or is it aegis? | 18:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: lemme try to rephrase it in proper way | 18:48 |
| rZr | djszapi, rebuilding agani https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=qt5-base&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard ? | 18:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: what does prevent the kernel update/changes on n9? | 18:48 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: nothing is preventing kernel update in N9 on openmode. | 18:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: i mean if i don't want openmode | 18:49 |
| arcean | jonni, Nokia sent N950 to us with BL-4D :D | 18:49 |
| rZr | whats that ? | 18:50 |
| jonni | arcean: heh, well I'm using BV-4D's on my :) | 18:50 |
| louisdk | Okay thx. I have another N9 that I'm repairing and then selling. According to Wikipedia Nokia 808 has battery BV-4D and if i search on ebay BV-4D does also fits in N9. Is that true? | 18:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: is it the signing in like package signing(where we can use inception) or it's other level signing? | 18:50 |
| arcean | jonni, me too, from 808 :) | 18:50 |
| rZr | how can u check which battery is inside w/out opening ? | 18:50 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: well yes its bootloaded that triggers open mode bit if signature does not match in cert. | 18:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | rZr: rengen sight ? | 18:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: so it's on bootloader level? | 18:51 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: yes | 18:51 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: so basicaly to "jailbreak" it we need to switch/change bootloader, right? | 18:51 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: or get master key so you can sign valid firmwares | 18:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: i think it's not a proper way | 18:52 |
| arcean | rZr, 'lshal | grep reporting.design' | 18:53 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: but you need a valid signed firmware in order to switch bootloader, as that area is readonly otherwise ;) | 18:54 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: in reality if you want to update kernel, you need to be in openmode, and then just deal with the issues that it causes. | 18:55 |
| louisdk | Does BV-4D fits in the Nokia N9? When I search for it on Ebay it says battery for the N9. | 18:56 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: so even to turn of bootloader you need signed bootloader ? :P | 18:57 |
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| jonni | ZogG_laptop: yes :). Only downside afaik of beeing in openmode is the locked CAL, and internally there are devicelock packages available that uses aegisfs to store the lockcode instead of CAL, nobody just have leaked them to public. If someone would leak them, then one would have full phone functionality even on open mode side. | 19:03 |
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| ZogG_laptop | ~CAL | 19:04 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, cal is a calendar. try $(cal 1752) | 19:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: cal is? | 19:05 |
| jonni | CAL == /dev/mtd1 | 19:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | so actually it can be replaced | 19:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | aegis is opensource, isn't it? | 19:07 |
| jonni | and now time for disclaimers: dont f*ck with mtd1, if you screw things in there, you can really brick your device, (even full reflash with -c, wont recover your device in booting order) :) | 19:09 |
| jonni | even nokia care wont be able to recover your device :) | 19:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 19:10 |
| jonni | I've destroyed on device accidentally (tm) :) | 19:10 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: :( | 19:13 |
| louisdk | I'm really confuse. Many sites says that the BV-4D is for the N9 but it does have that lille cable. It can't be right xD | 19:13 |
| arcean | louisdk, just buy the battery for the Nokia 808 PureView :) | 19:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: buy dinamo and hammster | 19:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | be a hipster | 19:15 |
| louisdk | arcean: Which is a BV-4D. But I also need a new battery for my N9 which I want to sell. | 19:16 |
| arcean | louisdk, the BV-4D for 808 should have 1400mAh | 19:17 |
| jonni | louisdk: ebay search "Nokia BV-5JW" if you want N9 battery | 19:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: why u want to sell n9? | 19:17 |
| jonni | louisdk: BV-4D is not for N9 | 19:18 |
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| louisdk | jonni: Then is website must be wrong: http://www.mytrendyphone.co.uk/shop/nokia-n9-battery-68355p.html | 19:18 |
| louisdk | *Then this | 19:19 |
| arcean | long time ago N950 was known as N9 | 19:19 |
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| jonni | louisdk: quite many websites are wrong | 19:19 |
| louisdk | jonni: I know. I'm aware of that batteries to buy :) | 19:20 |
| louisdk | *what | 19:21 |
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| njsf | Any news on when apps.formeego will return ? | 19:33 |
| njsf | I have to restore from backup today, but with apps for meego down I'll miss a lot of stuff that I installed from there | 19:34 |
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| djszapi_ | rZr: I have cleaned up both repositories: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan and https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan%3Atesting They look way better now after a few hours cleaning... | 20:41 |
| njsf | I hate N9's backup/restore | 20:43 |
| njsf | Why didn't Nokia just stick with the N900 way... so much better, you could choose what to restore... *sigh* | 20:44 |
| njsf | and it also made for faster app list backups :/ | 20:44 |
| njsf | sorry for the rant | 20:44 |
| djszapi_ | anybody willing to test the installation at least of the qt5 packages? | 20:44 |
| djszapi_ | qt5 beta 1. | 20:44 |
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| louisdk | The power button on my Nokia N9 became stock, so I disassembled the device, and there's the chassis: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/ht53hmyn/12090026.jpg As you can see there's a missing orange dot at the right. I found the little orange dot but it seems pretty impossible to get back on... | 21:10 |
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| zx2c4 | itsnotabigtruck, inception site is down? | 22:05 |
| zx2c4 | endno.de dns failing | 22:05 |
| djszapi_ | zx2c4: you can use tmo | 22:06 |
| zx2c4 | tmo? | 22:07 |
| zx2c4 | djszapi_, whats that | 22:07 |
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| ieatlint | talk.maemo.org forums, which acknowledges the site is down and has a mirror on the inception thread | 22:09 |
| piggz__ | i really gotta try inception + this new system-ui stuff | 22:12 |
| djszapi_ | haha jonni said: "It also makes you rich and stops kittens to be killed." :) | 22:13 |
| njsf | what is the main difference between openmode and inception ? | 22:14 |
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| djszapi_ | fwiw, we have done a better job with aegis than what is available on blackberry. I am biased after all. :-) | 22:14 |
| ieatlint | local journalism is awesome http://i.imgur.com/1QZ6S.jpg | 22:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: its on obs | 22:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: u are rare guest here :P | 22:29 |
| zx2c4 | ZogG_laptop, translate what? obs? also, which forum post | 22:29 |
| zx2c4 | ZogG_laptop, i should hang out here more often indeed :-D | 22:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: talk.maemo.org is TMO | 22:29 |
| zx2c4 | gotcha | 22:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | obs is build.pub.meego.com or something like that | 22:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~obs | 22:29 |
| infobot | it has been said that obs is opensuse build service, used around MeeGo http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure | 22:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: i used to use your vaio driver | 22:30 |
| zx2c4 | ooo gotcha | 22:31 |
| zx2c4 | cool | 22:31 |
| zx2c4 | ZogG_laptop, used to use it? | 22:31 |
| zx2c4 | ZogG_laptop, my vaio actually broke, so that projects dead for me :-\ | 22:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: i didn't like the idea it's bound with brightness | 22:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | if you could pull only the key lit part to sony-vaio module in kernel :P | 22:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: what gt broken? | 22:32 |
| louisdk | Wow. Fn + Backspace on N950. Haven seen that before :p | 22:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: what does it do? | 22:32 |
| zx2c4 | ZogG_laptop, backlight flickered out | 22:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: lcd? | 22:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | zx2c4: how many years, what u bought instead? | 22:35 |
| louisdk | sends you to the view of all open apps similar to a function on the N900 :) | 22:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: nice | 22:36 |
| njsf | if only TMO was in .it or something | 22:36 |
| njsf | then it would be TMI :) | 22:37 |
| njsf | I know, bad joke | 22:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | TMI stand for? | 22:38 |
| njsf | Too Much Information | 22:38 |
| louisdk | The only thing I miss on my N950 is that when you click on a conversation in massages that it open in a new window. That way it would be easier to have muliple conversations without having to open messages more than one time. | 22:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: real life friends are better :P | 22:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | real communication | 22:40 |
| louisdk | And the other thing would be to have the topbar visible when you're in landscape mode and have opened a program. | 22:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | and that it makes u a coffee | 22:41 |
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| louisdk | ZogG_laptop: I have real friends but likes to stay in touch when I'm on the go ;) | 22:42 |
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