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| beford | time tracking thing | 00:05 |
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| beford | a coworker is using it on Android so i think I can do one this weekend :P | 00:05 |
| beford | ZogG_laptop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomodoro_Technique | 00:05 |
| beford | time management method | 00:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: why don't u apply T client? | 00:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | and did u apply on site as well? | 00:07 |
| beford | no, I'll send it tonight | 00:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | aply both | 00:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~seen kojacker | 00:09 |
| infobot | kojacker <kojacker@92.40.124.56.sub.mbb.three.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 786d 22h 5m 55s ago, saying: 'Ive been googling, I think he's Norweigan .. and yes you should be asleep!'. | 00:09 |
| beford | oh yea I read that on the wiki, we have to send it through mail | 00:09 |
| beford | doesn't seem like the best approach | 00:09 |
| beford | :P | 00:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | there is site | 00:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | kojacker did | 00:11 |
| beford | oh I'll check that | 00:12 |
| Elleo | I just got my first politely worded letter from a lawyer, informing me that I need to change the name of my Kindle reader application because "Firestarter" is too close to some of Amazon's trademarks :/ | 00:15 |
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| faenil | wow | 00:18 |
| rZr | Elleo call it FireAmazonLawyers | 00:21 |
| Elleo | heh | 00:21 |
| rZr | or the smarter way | 00:21 |
| rZr | Elleo call it F1r34m4z0nL4wy3rs | 00:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Elleo: call it sparkle | 00:24 |
| rashm2k | my app is coming along nicely | 00:24 |
| rashm2k | yay | 00:24 |
| Elleo | I'm wondering about Tinderbox | 00:24 |
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| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: screenshots? what app? | 00:27 |
| rashm2k | ebay app | 00:31 |
| rashm2k | its not yet worthy of screenshots | 00:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | does it steal money? | 00:31 |
| rashm2k | no it does not ;-) | 00:32 |
| rashm2k | very complex | 00:32 |
| rashm2k | cross compiled a web service framework | 00:32 |
| rashm2k | generated xml bindings using the WSDL file | 00:32 |
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| rashm2k | now I'm interacting with the web service | 00:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: not stealling == doesn't worth it | 00:34 |
| rashm2k | lol | 00:34 |
| rashm2k | I shall put some code in my app | 00:34 |
| rashm2k | if username == ZogG_laptop | 00:34 |
| rashm2k | steal money!!!! | 00:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: why _laptop? | 00:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | u think i have few account for each device? | 00:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 00:39 |
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| ZogG_laptop | :P | 00:39 |
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| rashm2k | hehe | 00:41 |
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| virtuald | Elleo: why not Cinder Jungle? | 00:47 |
| Elleo | virtuald: heh | 00:47 |
| Elleo | their lawyers are currently being very polite and vaguely friendly, I don't really want to antagonise them ;) | 00:48 |
| virtuald | do you depend on them approving your app? | 00:48 |
| Elleo | I depend on them not sueing me | 00:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | Elleo: call it retratserif | 00:50 |
| Elleo | heh | 00:50 |
| virtuald | how could they sue you for calling it cinder jungle? | 00:54 |
| virtuald | or even jungle cinder | 00:54 |
| Elleo | Octavo perhaps? | 00:55 |
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| Hurrian | Anyone tried to build a 2.6.32.59 kernel for Harmattan yet? | 00:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: u can't | 00:59 |
| Hurrian | Why not? | 01:00 |
| Hurrian | It'd require openmode, but I'm pretty sure applying the incrementals for kernel.org will go fine. | 01:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | u need to apply all patches from nokia | 01:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | i tried but i;m too noob | 01:02 |
| rashm2k | QObject::connect(&nam, SIGNAL(finished(QNetworkReply *)), &eventLoop, SLOT(quit())); | 01:02 |
| rashm2k | I get a segfault when i do eventLoop.exec | 01:02 |
| Hurrian | Download the Harmattan source, and simply patch in the incrementals for .54-59. | 01:03 |
| Hurrian | or make a 2.6.32.54 tree, then make a unified diff of the Harmattan and Vanilla kernels to grab Nokia's patches | 01:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | i did last option | 01:04 |
| Hurrian | it'd be a stupidly large patch, I won't bother with it | 01:04 |
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| ZogG_laptop | yeap | 01:06 |
| rashm2k | any ideas? | 01:07 |
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| rashm2k | fucking hell | 01:35 |
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| rashm2k | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/How_to_wait_synchronously_for_a_Signal_in_Qt | 01:36 |
| rashm2k | Ive copied the first bit of code and it just bloody segfaulst!!!! | 01:36 |
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| rashm2k | really getting really pissed off | 01:37 |
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| ZogG_laptop | segfaults are cool | 01:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: add more debuging | 01:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | check on witch line | 01:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | i bet something memory related or something | 01:42 |
| rashm2k | loop.exec | 01:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | snip the code | 01:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | i | 01:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'm not a pro | 01:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | but there are few here | 01:43 |
| rashm2k | what does this line do | 01:43 |
| rashm2k | QEventLoop loop; | 01:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | though most people asleep now | 01:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: it declares | 01:43 |
| rashm2k | its a reference? | 01:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | same as int i;; | 01:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | or QString NameOFPlayer; | 01:43 |
| rashm2k | does the no argument constructor of qeventloop get called? | 01:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | g? | 01:44 |
| rashm2k | ^^^^ that is the key question | 01:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | i have no idea | 01:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | last time i got segfault is cause i didn't freed properl and re asigned some vars. it had garbage left in mempry | 01:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | but it was more C than even C++, not even Qt :P | 01:48 |
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| rashm2k | its really annoying because all qt objects just say unavailable synchronous data in the debugger | 01:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | show the part of code | 01:51 |
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| jkt | rashm2k: you have read the warnings all over the page telling you not to use this code, right? | 01:56 |
| jkt | rashm2k: nested event loops are something you don't really want to debug | 01:56 |
| rashm2k | yeah i saw the warning | 01:57 |
| rashm2k | but wanted it to be synchronous | 01:58 |
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| rashm2k | Im trying to implement a image cache | 02:01 |
| jkt | respectfully, if your C++ knowledge is nto sufficient to see what "QEventLoop loop;" means, it suggests that you shouldn't just dismiss these warnings | 02:01 |
| rashm2k | I have a QMap<QString, QImage> | 02:01 |
| jkt | maybe you're used to some other programming environment | 02:01 |
| rashm2k | true | 02:01 |
| rashm2k | but I expected the code given to work | 02:02 |
| rashm2k | I can change it later | 02:02 |
| rashm2k | once I have my app working | 02:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | later means never :P | 02:02 |
| rashm2k | which stores images requested from the web | 02:02 |
| rashm2k | lol | 02:02 |
| rashm2k | can you please explain what QEventLoop loop does | 02:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | declaration | 02:03 |
| rashm2k | I'm pretty sure loop is a reference | 02:03 |
| rashm2k | thus cannot be null | 02:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | variable of type QEventLoop with name loop | 02:03 |
| rashm2k | so the Construcotr of QEventLoop is called | 02:03 |
| rashm2k | but is it a pointer or a reference>? | 02:04 |
| jkt | it's neither | 02:04 |
| rashm2k | so what type is loop? | 02:04 |
| jkt | QEventLoop | 02:05 |
| rashm2k | what is it> | 02:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | QEventLoop | 02:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | lol | 02:05 |
| jkt | QEventLoop is different from QEventLoop * or QEventLoop & | 02:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | i dunno | 02:05 |
| rashm2k | okay | 02:05 |
| rashm2k | so what does it mean exactly? | 02:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | QEventLoop * would be pointer of type Qeventloop i assume | 02:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | and & aways scared me :P | 02:06 |
| rashm2k | yes and reference is a reference to that object | 02:06 |
| jkt | why don't you just listen to the warnings and write proper asynchronous handlers for the events which QNetworkAccessManager helpfully emits? | 02:06 |
| rashm2k | pointers can be null references cannot | 02:06 |
| rashm2k | I think I will have to do that | 02:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: what are u trying to do? | 02:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | to get images? | 02:06 |
| jkt | that's how you're supposed to work in Qt | 02:06 |
| rashm2k | Implement an Image Cache | 02:07 |
| jkt | you can hack around it, but you'd be hitting problems all the time | 02:07 |
| jkt | you likely want to do something which maybe requires caching images | 02:07 |
| jkt | what's that "soemthing"? | 02:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | i never did things on that level as i'm noob | 02:07 |
| rashm2k | I'm showing a list of images to the user | 02:07 |
| rashm2k | obtianed from the web | 02:08 |
| jkt | in what? | 02:08 |
| rashm2k | QML | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | but if i would do it with my knowledge and if there is no already made proper fucntions/ways. i would keep array of images and the paths for them in /tmp/app/ or something :) | 02:08 |
| rashm2k | ListView | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: why didn't u say qml? | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | qml has cache for images | 02:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | i did it | 02:09 |
| rashm2k | QML is the easier bit | 02:09 |
| rashm2k | oh? | 02:09 |
| rashm2k | go on go on....... | 02:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/qml/imgrup/Gallery.qml | 02:10 |
| rashm2k | nah thats not what I want | 02:10 |
| jkt | ZogG_laptop: do you aactually have a reference for that? | 02:10 |
| jkt | because QNAM's default behavior is to not use cache | 02:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | jkt: i thought qml handles cache here | 02:11 |
| rashm2k | I don't think it does | 02:11 |
| jkt | rashm2k: are we talking about images fetched through http? | 02:11 |
| rashm2k | yes | 02:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | cacheBuffer: 3600 ? | 02:12 |
| jkt | if so, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qnetworkaccessmanager.html#setCache, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qnetworkdiskcache.html, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeengine.html#setNetworkAccessManagerFactory is what you're looking for | 02:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | jkt: and what i did is? | 02:13 |
| rashm2k | hey ho! | 02:13 |
| rashm2k | that looks good! | 02:13 |
| rashm2k | even better as it can be used across multiple sessions | 02:14 |
| jkt | ZogG_laptop: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-gridview.html#cacheBuffer-prop | 02:14 |
| jkt | ZogG_laptop: the effect will be similar, yes | 02:14 |
| rashm2k | the problem is that the QML Image element requests an Image | 02:16 |
| rashm2k | which I download | 02:16 |
| rashm2k | this needs to be synch so the images gets loaded at that time rather than later | 02:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: i my app it uses images as well | 02:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i show all images and load one by one and not in order | 02:17 |
| jkt | rashm2k: so you'd prefer to freeze your UI while you're waiting for the network? that's a strange design | 02:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: jkt isn't better way to use loading while it's not complete? | 02:18 |
| rashm2k | the quickest way to get it donw | 02:18 |
| rashm2k | done | 02:18 |
| rashm2k | I should really have a signal/slot to qml | 02:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | anyway rashm2k u can see my app as an example if you want, or not if you don't | 02:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | night | 02:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | jkt: night :P | 02:19 |
| rashm2k | cool thanks | 02:19 |
| jkt | what? | 02:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: check cpp part as well. it's small app. and in ovi for free if you want to check how it works - > check gallery in header to see that part working | 02:19 |
| jkt | you do realize that QML handles all that asynchronisity for you, right? | 02:19 |
| rashm2k | even if multiple QML image elements get called isn't the ImageProvide still single threaded? | 02:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: and there is also code there how i connect qml and cpp(qnam) so it loads pic by pic and it's parallel thing and it's list or grid as well :P | 02:21 |
| rashm2k | The link is above? | 02:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeap | 02:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | imgrup on github | 02:21 |
| rashm2k | I will take a look | 02:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | in src/qml/Gallery and i think /src/gallery.cpp | 02:22 |
| jkt | being asynchronous has nothing to do with threads | 02:22 |
| jkt | but do whatever you want to do, it's your time | 02:22 |
| rashm2k | I need to think about this a little more | 02:22 |
| rashm2k | My aim was to get it done today! | 02:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: i checked my code | 02:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | qnam return unparsed json | 02:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | and than it goes thru array of pictures | 02:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | and append them | 02:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | and cache in qml | 02:23 |
| rashm2k | http://www.fdelgado.fr/QtQuick/2011/08/30/72/ | 02:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | u can emit one by one and just use some index or counter for each one i think | 02:24 |
| beford | and its gone | 02:24 |
| rashm2k | This is code i was looking at | 02:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: ? | 02:24 |
| beford | :< | 02:24 |
| beford | aaaaaand its gone | 02:24 |
| rashm2k | I'ts in French but google translate works well | 02:24 |
| beford | :P | 02:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: we put your money to this company and it would profit, as well to thi... aaaaand it's gone | 02:25 |
| jkt | that example is wrong on so many levels | 02:28 |
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| rashm2k | Why do you say aht | 02:32 |
| rashm2k | that | 02:32 |
| rashm2k | although first can someone please explain what QEventLoop loop; does? | 02:35 |
| jkt | if the point is just to load images from the web, you don't have to do anything, QML can do it by itself | 02:35 |
| jkt | it attempts to implement a singleton pattern in a funny way | 02:35 |
| jkt | it has memory leaks over the place | 02:36 |
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| rashm2k | where are the memory leaks? | 02:40 |
| jkt | instantiating and never freeing the QNAM, for example | 02:40 |
| jkt | I stopped looking after that | 02:40 |
| rashm2k | okay | 02:40 |
| rashm2k | qnam should only be one instance anyway? | 02:41 |
| jkt | what is the ultimate end result you want to achieve, anyway? | 02:41 |
| rashm2k | image cache | 02:41 |
| rashm2k | thats it | 02:41 |
| * jkt gives up | 02:41 | |
| jkt | good night | 02:41 |
| rashm2k | lol | 02:42 |
| rashm2k | maybe tomorrow | 02:42 |
| rashm2k | heh | 02:42 |
| rashm2k | e | 02:42 |
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| vape | Hi. I am facing a dramatic problem with my Nokia N9. My screen sometimes starts flashing, then it goes off for a while. | 12:37 |
| vape | I sent it to nokia care, they fixed it... when i got it back after a month.. the problem comes again.. how can i diagnose it please ? | 12:37 |
| pa | well the diagnose is that nokia care sucks | 12:38 |
| pa | i also sent them my phone back | 12:38 |
| pa | they "fixed it", but the problem is still there | 12:38 |
| rZr | same for my e7 | 12:38 |
| vape | wat was your problem pa ? | 12:39 |
| vape | same ? | 12:39 |
| pa | no, i have some touch problems | 12:39 |
| pa | when speaker is speaking | 12:39 |
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| vape | mmm... i think they cannot support open-source :) | 12:39 |
| vape | or maybe their hardware is not ready for that | 12:39 |
| vape | is there a place where error logs are stored so, i can check what was going on? | 12:40 |
| vape | I looked inside /var/log/ | 12:40 |
| pa | lol, in my case is for sure hw problem, it doesnt happen on other n9 | 12:40 |
| vape | nothing related to taht | 12:40 |
| vape | that.. | 12:40 |
| vape | well... sending it back then.. :) | 12:41 |
| vape | my problem.. if i want to send it to them... i will be spending more than the phone's value itself | 12:42 |
| vape | :) | 12:42 |
| vape | coz am so far.. | 12:42 |
| vape | hehehe | 12:42 |
| vape | i'd rather get another phone.. | 12:42 |
| djszapi_ | vape: that is unfortunate. | 12:44 |
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| rashm2k | Anyone have a nice solution to this problem: | 12:49 |
| rashm2k | http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/5125 | 12:49 |
| djszapi_ | why do you need blocking call? | 12:52 |
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| rashm2k | How else would I do it? | 12:52 |
| vape | I've got an update. I am able to reproduce the problem now :) ... I have alot of pictures in my library.. so, when I cycle through them, if i cycle very quickly, the screen will go off for a while... then it will come again if i click on the upper side | 12:53 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: async | 12:53 |
| rashm2k | yes but how does the QML Image component know when the Image has been downloaded? | 12:54 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: notification | 12:54 |
| rashm2k | I shall give you some pastebin | 12:55 |
| vape | any ideas ? | 12:55 |
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| djszapi_ | rashm2k: you do not need to. | 12:56 |
| djszapi_ | it is a theoritical concept. | 12:56 |
| djszapi_ | You have problems with the implementation, and not the concept? | 12:56 |
| rashm2k | I dont know | 12:57 |
| rashm2k | I'm trying to figure this out but I deffo need help | 12:57 |
| rashm2k | http://pastebin.com/VSFu1FFc | 12:58 |
| rashm2k | http://pastebin.com/qjC5pp4z | 12:58 |
| rashm2k | http://pastebin.com/QE1ND0XK | 12:58 |
| rashm2k | http://pastebin.com/YeyAvUBx | 12:58 |
| rashm2k | each time a new image is requested I create a new ImageDownloader to download that Image | 12:59 |
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| rashm2k | any ideas djszapi_ | 13:12 |
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| djszapi_ | rashm2k: I told you :) | 13:16 |
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| rashm2k | I don't think it's possible that way | 13:24 |
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| ZogG_laptop | rashm2k: still doing it? | 14:02 |
| rashm2k | yeah man | 14:16 |
| rashm2k | I've connnected the signal to the slot but the slot never seems to get called! | 14:17 |
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| ZogG_laptop | u did it wrong than | 14:27 |
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| rashm2k | I think I got it now with the event loop | 14:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | lalalala | 14:32 |
| rashm2k | Async is no good for me | 14:33 |
| khertan | It s now done, all my apps will be unpublished from that sucky nokia store ! | 14:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | some people when seeking for help, mostly speak with themselves, they ask question and when got proper answers refuse to take them, as they want to hear something else. So i decided not to spend my time on those. i hope as well i don't act like that :P | 14:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | khertan: lol | 14:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | khertan: may i request some python port from you? | 14:34 |
| rashm2k | this is exaclty what I needed: | 14:34 |
| rashm2k | http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/5125 | 14:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: the one from n900 | 14:35 |
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| ZogG_laptop | khertan: ? | 14:37 |
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| djszapi_ | rashm2k: why don't you just follow what is written there? | 14:41 |
| djszapi_ | there are at least two approaches mentioned there. | 14:41 |
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| djszapi_ | one of them is also what I recommended. | 14:42 |
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| rashm2k | yeah I'm trying to do that | 14:48 |
| rashm2k | trying to figure out changes I need to make to suite my needs | 14:48 |
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| rashm2k | Ive decided to stick to a pure qml approach | 15:11 |
| rashm2k | cache: true | 15:11 |
| rashm2k | asynch: true | 15:11 |
| rashm2k | for the moment | 15:11 |
| djszapi_ | that may be a wrong decision... | 15:12 |
| djszapi_ | due to that someone was telling that async is only available in Qt5. | 15:12 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, yep what did you request ? | 15:13 |
| rashm2k | it needs a little more thinking and I dont have the time | 15:14 |
| rashm2k | I've already spent too much time on this | 15:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: https://gitorious.org/transifex-mobile/transifex-mobile | 15:16 |
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| ZogG_laptop | khertan: btw your mail is also your jabber? | 15:19 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, khertan _a_t_ khertan.net | 15:31 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, pure qwidget | 15:32 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, require rewrite of it in qml | 15:32 |
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| khertan | ZogG_laptop, and the jabber is at gmail | 15:44 |
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| ZogG_laptop | khertan: zogg at noicq org | 15:51 |
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| arcean__ | rZr, could you add 'arcean' to the gitorious harmattan repo? | 17:31 |
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| ZogG_laptop | arcean__: he can't. u are out-law now :P | 17:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | arcean__: btw there is github group as well managed by thp | 17:45 |
| arcean__ | :< | 17:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | arcean__: sup man? | 17:46 |
| arcean__ | just hacking harmattan control panel ;) | 17:46 |
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| ZogG_laptop | arcean__: what ya exactly doing? | 17:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: sup | 17:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ZogG_laptop: sup | 17:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | reinstalling Linux | 17:47 |
| djszapi_ | arcean__: I wanted to add you. | 17:47 |
| arcean__ | landscape mode and fixing a couple of the master patches | 17:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | At least I got my Debian :) | 17:48 |
| djszapi_ | but I cannot seem to be able to log in unfortunately. | 17:48 |
| arcean__ | djszapi, ah, thanks anyway :) | 17:48 |
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| ZogG_laptop | noone wants to add me :( | 17:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did anyone know if there is a way to get scratchbox and madde as debian packages, instead of using QtSDK ? | 17:52 |
| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: scratchbox is installable from debian package.. | 17:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: u can get both working without qtsdk | 17:53 |
| djszapi_ | arcean__: can you now log into gitorious? It does not work on my laptop, nor on m9 apparently. | 17:53 |
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| arcean__ | djszapi: sure, it's possible here | 17:54 |
| djszapi_ | and did not work at my company either yesterday or before that. | 17:54 |
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| djszapi_ | interesting. | 17:54 |
| djszapi_ | I am always getting this from everywhere: | 17:54 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | clean your cookies | 17:54 |
| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: was done many times. | 17:55 |
| djszapi_ | arcean__: finally managed :) | 17:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ZogG_laptop: but madde don't seems to be packaged :( | 17:55 |
| djszapi_ | welcome to the group. :-) | 17:55 |
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| arcean__ | djszapi: thank you ! :D | 17:56 |
| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_Platform_SDK_user_guide_Installing_Harmattan_Platform_SDK.html | 17:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nice :) | 17:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, not that one :( I wanted without SDK | 17:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but well, I'm gonna manage | 17:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I prefer madde since it is easier to integrate it with QtCreator | 17:58 |
| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: have you actually read that what I gave you? | 17:59 |
| djszapi_ | scratchbox is coming from debian packages just as written aforementioned.. | 18:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I was interested by madde | 18:00 |
| djszapi_ | no. | 18:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for scratchbox, it is OK | 18:00 |
| djszapi_ | you have asked both. | 18:00 |
| djszapi_ | you have said that later only. | 18:00 |
| djszapi_ | but either way, I have at least packages for Archlinux. | 18:01 |
| djszapi_ | too bad the debian packagers do not care. | 18:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | i bet it's there | 18:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I'm still choosing my distro | 18:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | debian with apt is nice | 18:01 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I might try arch as well | 18:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what is the best advantage of arch ? | 18:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | do not use it | 18:03 |
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| ZogG_laptop | go with funtoo :P | 18:03 |
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| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: I like that the packages are fresh without custom builds. | 18:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: close the door, it's cold outside. you in or out | 18:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is the package management system nice ? | 18:03 |
| djszapi_ | up-to-date* | 18:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | i would say it's mess | 18:04 |
| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: I have not had a problem with it too much. | 18:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | as well as systemd | 18:04 |
| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: although I was developing it back then, so I am perhaps a bit biased. :-) | 18:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ZogG_laptop: I just went out to fart | 18:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | yaourt is mess with duplicates and left depricated stuff | 18:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I want something stable, although quite up to date | 18:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: than its ok | 18:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: funtoo :) | 18:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I hate ubuntu, because of their UI choice | 18:05 |
| djszapi_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: KUbuntu? | 18:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~buntkuh | 18:05 |
| infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, buntkuh is http://xkcd.com/424/ ... Redmond, or http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holstein-Rind | 18:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ZogG_laptop: well, compiling is painful | 18:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lack of root is a shame | 18:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and enabling it on an ubuntu just mess everything in the system | 18:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: root on funtoo is ok | 18:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I'm gonna stick with debian I think, although if their package are not the best | 18:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry | 18:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: and compling is not that bad with todays hw | 18:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it was for djszapi_ :D | 18:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Lenovo X200 man, a computer that have >4 years | 18:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: i update once in a week/two weeks | 18:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | remember penryn CPU ? | 18:06 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hmm, my Lenovo T500 is incredible | 18:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: u don't have to look at compaling process | 18:07 |
| MohammadAG | is there an app for the N9 to announce the caller name? | 18:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | also not exactly new but really fine hw | 18:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ZogG_laptop: well, I compile Qt5 once a week, and it already eats some hours (webkit inside) | 18:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, one day I will try gentoo based distros | 18:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: webkit and LO and chrome are heavy, true | 18:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | but there are bins there for that | 18:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | more harmattan related, do anyone of you tried to identify if there is a dbus signal that is sent when the N9 alarm clock is ringing ? | 18:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not for Qt5 master :) ZogG_laptop | 18:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: and overlays are nice, though i prefer not to use those | 18:10 |
| MohammadAG | Sfiet_Konstantin, probably yes | 18:11 |
| MohammadAG | but if you're thinking of the bouncy thing on the lockscreen, it's closed :P | 18:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | since I'm replacing the lockscreen, I don't care about the bouncy | 18:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I want a better effect | 18:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but if you know, currently, my lockscreen do not respond to incoming calls, alarm and calendar | 18:12 |
| MohammadAG | what happens when one comes in? | 18:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i want to address this bug, bug playing with dbus while setting the alarm, i did not find anything | 18:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, the screen turns on, and stay locked :D | 18:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | no bouncy things, but widgets are displayed | 18:13 |
| MohammadAG | hah | 18:13 |
| MohammadAG | well, yeah, the bouncy thing is in the lockscreen code | 18:13 |
| MohammadAG | and it's actually a shitty way to implement it | 18:13 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hehe | 18:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | Sfiet_Konstantin: maybe u should check how system-ui react to incomings | 18:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | need code | 18:14 |
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| MohammadAG | lockscreen is closed | 18:14 |
| MohammadAG | lockscreen loader isn't, and is part of system-ui | 18:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | huuuul | 18:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | interesting as hell | 18:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it might address some of my problems | 18:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like why LPM don't work | 18:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | all hail to HARM, wasn't there the promise everything will be waaaay better with HARM than with fremantle, regarding openness, closed blobs etc? | 18:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and why some methods are useless | 18:15 |
| MohammadAG | LPM doesn't work? | 18:15 |
| MohammadAG | do it yourself | 18:15 |
| MohammadAG | it's just a write to sysfs :) | 18:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: it is | 18:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I cannot detect how it is turned on ... I don't have an N9 | 18:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I see :-/ | 18:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: no open stuff, no thoughts and regrets. | 18:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: Nokia can kill it quiker, without it suffering :P | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yeah | 18:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: like stalin said. no person — no problem | 18:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | seems to be a russian saying | 18:16 |
| MohammadAG | right, sec | 18:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: u know he didn't change one of the captured germnan's officers for his captured sons :P was nice guy :) | 18:17 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | Stalin? for sure was one of the nicer ones | 18:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeah. we would be nice chanop :P | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | Sfiet_Konstantin, | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | echo 1 > /sys/devices/omapdss/display0/lpm | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | that enables LPM | 18:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: how ya doing? | 18:19 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the more it bewilders me how many Russians still honour this asshole | 18:19 |
| MohammadAG | LPM is low-colour mode too(!!!) | 18:19 |
| MohammadAG | so make sure you show basic colours | 18:19 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, trying to get one of my phones to announce caller | 18:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: my grandma toled they cried when he died ( she was child than) | 18:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah, that's right _but_ I want to detect _when_ the screen became turned "off", ie when it switch to LPM | 18:19 |
| MohammadAG | Sfiet_Konstantin, also the screen isn't updated | 18:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: to announce is like to say? or what? | 18:20 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | MohammadAG: interesting to know that | 18:20 |
| MohammadAG | Sfiet_Konstantin, use mce signals | 18:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I might want to get (or at least brought) an N9 | 18:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: i hate this unpdating thing | 18:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I already use QmSystem | 18:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but it do not provide anything related to LPM | 18:20 |
| MohammadAG | mce sends signals when the screen is "locked" and "off" | 18:21 |
| MohammadAG | locked is lockscreen display, off, is, well, off | 18:21 |
| MohammadAG | if the screen is off the device is probably locked | 18:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | or it's off :) | 18:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | device may be off :) | 18:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: hey | 18:22 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey | 18:22 |
| Venemo_N9 | what's up? | 18:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | shitty like always :) | 18:23 |
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| ZogG_laptop | macmaN: hey | 19:58 |
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| louisdk | Hi. I've a lot kept back updates when running apt-get update on my phone. Will runnig dist-upgrade and installing the updates make my N950 unflashable? | 19:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | dist-upgrade is a baaaad idea | 20:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | though i did it on n9 | 20:01 |
| louisdk | ZogG_laptop: And what happened? | 20:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | it was ore than that | 20:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | as i switched from 005 to 001 | 20:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | by switching repo | 20:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | and unsinstalling meta | 20:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | and updating | 20:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | and fixing all conflicts | 20:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | as there were 005 vs 001 :P | 20:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | phone hardly worked all i had was terminal | 20:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | and it took a lot of time | 20:06 |
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| louisdk | Wtf: https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7530337/Nokia_N950_PR1.3_firmware_%28leaked%29 | 20:08 |
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| louisdk | Where's the output when running apt-get dist-upgrade on my N950: http://pastebin.com/2MVTQkSM I'm afraid to install them. Don't want my N950 to end up like a brick or be unflashable. | 20:15 |
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| arcean | louisdk, just flash PR 1.3 :) | 20:24 |
| louisdk | arcean: The only Pr1.3 available for N950 is a leaked version from Pirate Bay. | 20:28 |
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| arcean | but it works, and it's much much better than 1.2 beta | 20:29 |
| louisdk | arcea: have you tried it on your N950? | 20:34 |
| arcean | my n950 is running pr 1.3 since 2 months :) | 20:36 |
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| louisdk | arcean: Can I still flsh with PR1.2 beta from Nokia if PR1.3 upgrade goes wrong. | 20:42 |
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| arcean | probably not | 20:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | don't think so | 20:47 |
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| arcean | ouch | 21:03 |
| arcean | louisdk, dist-upgrade will also upgrade cmt firmware | 21:03 |
| arcean | and you don't want this, if you're thinking about returning to pr1.2 beta one day | 21:04 |
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| louisdk | arcean: Thanks for letting me know. I'm on Ubuntu 64-bit. Should I just chmod +x scriptfile.sh and then running it like sudo ./scriptfile.bin ? | 21:12 |
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| louisdk | Iarcean: Thanks for letting me know. I'm on Ubuntu 64-bit. Should I just chmod +x scriptfile.bin and then running it like sudo ./scriptfile.bin ? | 21:19 |
| arcean | most probably, depends on what you're trying to achieve :) | 21:20 |
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| louisdk | arcean: Trying to flash it. But I get this error: http://pastebin.com/ZznP3yqc | 21:23 |
| arcean | ahh, you're doing it wrong (TM) gimme sec | 21:23 |
| arcean | louisdk, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 | 21:24 |
| arcean | louisdk, start reading from "BACK UP YOUR DATA" paragraph | 21:25 |
| louisdk | Ahh. Thx | 21:26 |
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| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: how did u get n950? | 21:41 |
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| ieatlint | huh, i didn't hear that a pr1.3 leaked for the n950 | 21:42 |
| djszapi_ | actually the ui guideline is quite correct for blackberry. | 21:44 |
| beford | I couldnt get the bb10 sdk working | 21:45 |
| beford | didn't try to hard though :p | 21:45 |
| beford | whenever I created an example the qml editor failed "module rim.cascades not installed" | 21:45 |
| djszapi_ | that sounds obvious | 21:46 |
| beford | yea | 21:46 |
| beford | RIM's fault | 21:46 |
| djszapi_ | you did not have the library in place where needed. | 21:46 |
| ieatlint | how good is cascades? i've heard mostly positive things | 21:47 |
| djszapi_ | not too bad | 21:48 |
| beford | is it qt4 or qt5? | 21:48 |
| ieatlint | qt4 | 21:48 |
| ieatlint | similar to qml from what i understand, but with opengl es scenegraph base | 21:49 |
| beford | so it could be possible to get those components running on harmattan? :P | 21:49 |
| ieatlint | i certainly don't know enough, but i'd generally say no.. and unless you were after the components yourself, you'd probably have an easier time pursuing qt5 and qtquick2 with its scenegraph base | 21:51 |
| djszapi_ | works with qt5, too | 21:53 |
| djszapi_ | no, the components are closed | 21:53 |
| djszapi_ | so most likely it is impossible in case of any issues | 21:54 |
| djszapi_ | which is most likely the case. | 21:54 |
| djszapi_ | to get those work and run on Harmattan. | 21:54 |
| louisdk | ZogG_laptop: A good friend of mine was a Nokia Developer ;) | 21:54 |
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| ieatlint | emphasis on the "was" :( | 21:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: linux is fun :) i started with gentoo, try to set it as dualboot, you can learn a lot. | 21:59 |
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| ZogG_laptop | not just for n950 | 21:59 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i wouldn't necessarily recommend gentoo as a first one though :P | 22:00 |
| louisdk | ZogG_laptop: Maybe one day I will. I've used arch and freebsd but now i'm on Ubuntu.. lazyness ;) | 22:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | louisdk: it's ruining my linux | 22:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | linux now is explored like a whore for use af all corporations for money | 22:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | windows era of monopoly going down | 22:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | and with popularity comes a lot of dirt | 22:01 |
| beford | too bad the components are closed, they looked nice and I wanted some of that on top of the n9 | 22:02 |
| djszapi_ | what is wrong about the harmattan components wrt this? | 22:06 |
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| djszapi_ | rZr: it would be nice, if I could become a maintainer in testing and unstable as well... | 22:17 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise there is lots of communication overhead... | 22:17 |
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| beford | nothing wrong with harmattan | 22:24 |
| beford | :P | 22:24 |
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| Lava_Croft | people have been saying that the era of window monopoly is over for about 10years now | 23:55 |
| Lava_Croft | Windows* | 23:55 |
| Lava_Croft | Its almost as boring as the year of the linux desktop | 23:55 |
| Lava_Croft | and just as irrelevant | 23:55 |
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