IRC log of #harmattan for Friday, 2012-08-31

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mankelican someone please tell me, that what's the difference between coderus "status menu extension" and MohammadAG's unrestricted system-ui?00:29
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rZrdjszapi_, it's finishing
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rZrdjszapi_, some suggestion for next build01:47
rZradd - in version01:48
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djszapi_rZr: nope, it is ok as it is.02:48
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djszapi_why unresolvable?06:19
djszapi_qt5-base is there.06:19
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ZogG_laptopbeford: morning :P08:29
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Sfiet_KonstantinZogG_laptop: are you bored or what ?10:28
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ZogG_laptopbeford: :P11:09
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Sfiet_Konstantinnothing on harmattan for now11:25
ZogG_laptopSfiet_Konstantin: got your icon?11:27
Sfiet_KonstantinZogG_laptop: not yet, but twitter and TMO are really helpful11:28
Sfiet_KonstantinI received at least 3 promises for this week end11:28
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Sfiet_Konstantinwell, 1.0.0 finale is looking great, although if there is no much to see. I hope 1.1 series will be better (many ideas of widgets, as well as new features)11:30
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Khertan_Workwhile trying to build mplayer on obs : nothing provides ladspa-sdk, nothing provides libaa1-dev, nothing provides libaudio-dev, nothing provides libcaca-dev, nothing provides libcdparanoia-dev | libcdparanoia0-dev, nothing provides libbluray-dev, nothing provides libdirectfb-dev, nothing provides libdts-dev, nothing provides libesd0-dev, nothing provides libfaad-dev, nothing provides libfribidi-dev, nothing provides libgl1-mesa-dev, nothing prov11:46
Khertan_Workouch :)11:46
Sfiet_Konstantinwow :(11:49
Khertan_Workat the beginning i was just trying to play a mp4 video on my n9 which say after 10s that it can't decode that type of file11:51
Khertan_Workand now i end trying compiling vlc or mplayer :)11:51
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe your mp4 is corrupted ?11:51
Sfiet_Konstantinit is strange11:51
Sfiet_Konstantinmp4 should be decoded without problem11:51
Sfiet_Konstantinand gstreamer is powerful enough11:52
phakowell mp4 doesn't tell you much11:52
Khertan_Worknope ... just that since pr1.2 there is problem with mp4 and default video player11:52
Khertan_Workmp4 is a container i know :)11:52
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah true11:52
Sfiet_Konstantinbut what it contains shouldn't be a problem11:52
Khertan_Workoups ... n950 suddently reboot11:53
phakopeople get the crayiest ideas of which codecs to stuff in which containers11:53
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Khertan_Worki think it s h26411:53
Khertan_Workor something like that ... i ll check device reboot11:54
Khertan_Work848*480 h264 MPEG4 AVC (part10) (avc1) 24fps11:56
Khertan_Workit lag then video player say can't decode11:56
Khertan_Workaudio is aac at 44khz11:56
Khertan_Workhu what is a tar.xz11:57
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Sfiet_Konstantinlol, i'm having a strange packaging issue on QtCreator12:01
Sfiet_Konstantinmy widgets package ships several libs and plugins12:01
Sfiet_Konstantinand i got something like dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library needed by debian/widgets/usr/lib/qt4/imports/org/SfietKonstantin/widgets/background/ (its RPATH is '').12:01
Sfiet_Konstantinthis only happen when building in release mode12:04
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Sfiet_KonstantinZogG_laptop: you are really really bored don't you12:34
ZogG_laptopSfiet_Konstantin: nope12:34
ZogG_laptopSfiet_Konstantin: i just got computer from sleep12:35
ZogG_laptopand it reconnected to wifi at home12:35
ZogG_laptopso i checked if i'm online here or need to reconnect12:35
Sfiet_Konstantini see12:35
infobotZogG_laptop: :)12:35
infobotYo zogg_laptop, how's it going eh?12:35
ZogG_laptop~rape Sfiet_Konstantin12:35
* infobot takes Sfiet_Konstantin behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams12:35
ZogG_laptopso how is it going?12:36
Sfiet_Konstantini want to fix bugs, but also want to play starcraft12:37
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat should i choose12:37
Khertan_Workwhat mean 'broken' status on cobs ?12:37
Khertan_Worklog file is empty12:37
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: you broke cobs :P12:39
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: what u trying to build and where?12:39
Khertan_Workvlc :)12:40
valdur55~sup ZogG_laptop12:40
valdur55Just for testing :P12:40
ZogG_laptop~okay valdur55 :)12:41
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: why do you need vlc? afaik it's ported already12:41
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: mplayer ftw12:42
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: where to ?12:42
Khertan_Worknot in cobs ?12:42
ZogG_laptopis it okay that it has debian in name and it differs from dsc filename?12:43
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: i see there are unresolved deps12:43
ZogG_laptopgood luck with that one :P12:43
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: probably :)12:43
Khertan_Workjust a first try12:43
Khertan_Workwhich probably end in not compiling it12:43
ZogG_laptop Harmattan12:44
ZogG_laptop armv7el12:44
Khertan_Workbut where did you see a port for harmattan12:44
ZogG_laptopclick on it to change your mind12:44
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: in the internets and on TMO12:44
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: as well i would check if raspbian has it12:44
Khertan_Workhum ... i didn't trust package without source12:44
Khertan_Workoh my god heavy deps : nothing provides dh-autoreconf, nothing provides liba52-0.7.4-dev, nothing provides libaa1-dev, nothing provides libass-dev >= 0.9.8, nothing provides libavahi-client-dev, nothing provides libavc1394-dev, nothing provides libavcodec-dev >= 4:0.6, nothing provides libavformat-dev >= 4:0.6, nothing provides libbluray-dev >= 1:0.2.1, nothing provides libcaca-dev >= 0.99.beta4, nothing provides libcddb2-dev, nothing provides l12:44
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: you have aegis that would protect you :p12:45
Khertan_Workoh my god ! the deps are huge12:45
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: LOLOLOLOL12:45
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: i would just turn off most things12:45
ZogG_laptopwhy would u need bluray and caca12:45
ZogG_laptopkaka :)12:45
ZogG_laptopass would be useful12:45
ZogG_laptopavahi lol12:46
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ZogG_laptopi don't see it in paste u gave12:46
Khertan_Workhug ! too huge works for allowed free time i have12:46
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: excatly my point12:46
ZogG_laptopit's only vlc12:47
ZogG_laptopuse mplayer :P12:47
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: mplayer deps aren't better12:47
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: as well i think those packages may be there with different names12:47
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: for mplayer deps12:48
Khertan_Worki ll look my videos on pc12:48
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: u can use gstream codes on n912:48
Khertan_Workah oh ?12:49
Khertan_Workhow ?12:49
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: what format doesn't work for you?12:49
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: it works out of box12:49
ZogG_laptopand what container12:49
Khertan_Work848*480 h264 MPEG4 AVC (part10) (avc1) 24fps12:49
ZogG_laptopand stock doesn't play it?12:49
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: no it s not, player say after 10s that it can't decode such video12:50
Khertan_Worktoo slow i think12:50
Khertan_Workas after keeping pushing resume it s works for the next 10 or 5s12:50
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: is it samll file?12:52
ZogG_laptopsmall file?12:52
ZogG_laptopafter all i think only stock would use gpu acl anyways12:53
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: and i think best solution to just trascode it to other format12:53
ZogG_laptopbut just for experiments if file is not big i would like if you send it to me to check it or give me the link of source12:54
* Khertan_Work ZogG_laptop pirated source :
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: arround 130Mb12:55
ZogG_laptopdo i need to loging?12:55
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: some talking of the same problem here :
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: i ve got no problem before pr1.212:58
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: player was just dropping some frame12:59
Khertan_Worknow it s not the case and stop playing12:59
ZogG_laptopi think jonni talked about some changes that were made12:59
ZogG_laptopsame with openstock?13:00
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: the problem that vlc and mplayer probably wouldn't work13:00
ZogG_laptopand i would recommend to use some trascoding app13:00
ZogG_laptopmake profile for n913:00
valdur55and stock player displays "unsupported file formar" or something13:01
ZogG_laptopand transcode/encode/re-encode what ever you want to optimized options13:01
ZogG_laptopvaldur55: it plays but resolution probably is too high13:01
valdur55yes :)13:01
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: try 480p video13:01
ZogG_laptopi think it would be okay on n9/50 screen13:01
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: btw do you have n9?13:01
valdur55i had same problem.  Sound was ok and video was slow13:02
jonniyou need to use baseline profile with 480p, main or high-profile wont work.13:03
Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: n95013:04
ZogG_laptopjonni: what profiles are u talking about? in settings? as i never used video player on phone yet :P13:04
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Khertan_Workjonni: was working before pr1.213:06
ZogG_laptopoh those13:06
jonniKhertan_Work: not really, it was skipping frames before, and after pr1.2 it was decided not to play skipping frames videos at all13:06
Khertan_Workjonni: i prefer the skupping frame solution13:07
Khertan_Workat least they could put an option13:07
jonniofcourse you can just binary patch the player not to stop on skips, but nobody has bothered to do so.13:07
Khertan_Workjonni: i can't replace the package ...13:07
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jonniofcourse you can if you have installed opensh with all caps13:08
Khertan_Workjonni: :)13:08
Khertan_Worknot an end user solution13:08
Khertan_Workyes i can do it13:08
Khertan_Workbut not my wife13:08
ZogG_laptopYES WE CAN!13:08
Khertan_Workany other work arround ?13:08
Khertan_Workdidn't see any option to video-suite13:09
Khertan_Workthat can be used for that13:09
Khertan_Workit s funny that i ll now use video converter ... when i didn't need any on my n900 :)13:10
rZrkhertan, i see your on vlc too13:14
rZryou can add this repo as builder13:15
rZrthen  please push your building packages to home:rzr:harmattan:unstable13:16
rZrWorkFlow :13:17
rZr1/ add  repo builder : home:rzr:harmattan:testing13:17
rZr2/ build your package in home:$user13:17
rZr3/ please push your building packages to home:rzr:harmattan:unstable13:17
rZr4 / if it is ok i will merge into home:rzr:harmattan:testing13:17
rZr5/ once test is reported ok it will enter home:rzr:harmattan13:18
Khertan_WorkrZr: before i need to fix all deps problem13:18
rZrsome are in my place13:18
rZrnot all13:18
rZrin home:rzr:harmattan:testing13:18
Khertan_Workhow did i add it to cobs ?13:19
rZradd repo13:19
Khertan_Worki'm far to be an expert of this things13:19
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ZogG_laptopEstel is pissing me off13:19
rZrabout ?13:20
ZogG_laptopabout being rude child with power games13:20
rZr  project: home:rzr:harmattan:testing13:22
rZr  repo: MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard13:22
rZr  name: home_rzr_harmattan_testing_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard13:22
Khertan_WorkrZr: thx13:23
rZri wont be able to help u those upcoming weeks13:24
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rZrkhertan, btw can i rm Kht* package and keep using kht* names :)13:26
ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: seems that file plays ok on ovp13:27
ZogG_laptoplagging little bit13:27
ZogG_laptopbut works13:27
Khertan_Workovp ?13:27
rZropen vid player13:28
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ZogG_laptopand u have code of it and it's on apps4meego or ovi13:29
rZrbut a4m is broken isnt it ?13:29
ZogG_laptopthe repo works afaik13:30
ZogG_laptoponly web and web<->client things are broken13:30
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Khertan_Workdidn't see with apt-cache13:32
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Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: sure that is on apps4meego ?13:34
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Khertan_WorkZogG_laptop: thx13:37
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vapePlease, where can i find channel for wazapp ?13:38
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ZogG_laptopasked and left13:38
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer51: how ya doing?13:38
Khertan_WorkPackage openvideoplayer: denied 'mce::TKLockControl' for '/opt/openvideoplayer/bin/openvideoplayer' -- origin '' does not allow it13:39
ZogG_laptopinstalled it?13:41
ZogG_laptopis it installation log?13:42
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ZogG_laptopKhertan_Work: how did you install it and where did you get error?13:47
jabisif not openmode / AEGIS_FUXED_ORIGIN'd / incepted - no wonder - mce tokens were taken out in 1.1 afair13:52
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djszapichem|st: hi, are you the member of the maemo council?14:47
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: he is mod on tmo14:48
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: council memebers maybe found on #maemo14:49
rZrhi djszapi I see some progress on qt5 it's good14:50
djszapirZr: what do you mean?14:51
djszapiwhat progress exactly?14:51
djszapiI am actualyl stuck unfortunately.14:51
rZrnew packages...14:51
rZrtell me14:51
djszapiseems cobs has a broken database.14:51
djszapinew packages? What exactly?14:51
djszapiThere is only the beta I blogged about.14:52
djszapiand only the base14:52
djszapirZr: we have the same issue with qt5 as with kdelibs14:52
djszapidependencies are there.14:52
djszapibut somehow not recognized14:52
djszapiah you mean that.14:52
djszapiyes, it is now broken14:52
djszapiit is similar to the issue I had14:52
djszapiapt-get update -> did not get qt514:52
djszapiinto the database14:52
djszapiI presume, something similar is happening on the community obs as well14:53
djszapiqt5-base is definitely there.14:53
rZrwell u have to wait recalculation of repo14:53
rZrsee the queue14:53
djszapiI do not think so.14:53
djszapithe database should be updated after a package built14:53
rZrbottom left14:53
djszapiwhat does it mean "recalculate"?14:54
djszapiadding a repository to the database is a no issue and very fast14:54
djszapisame to get the updates.14:55
djszapiI would have submitted the qtdeclarative package as well14:55
djszapibut since it depends on the qtjsbackend14:56
djszapiit is not worth it yet.14:56
djszapihopefully it is not because of the testing and unstable variants.14:58
djszapiotherwise we may need to dump them :)14:59
Lava_Croftmeh new lumia models leaked15:05
Lava_Croftone with pureview15:05
chem|stdjszapi: ivgalvez woody sd69 nieldk15:05
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Khertan_WorkLava_Croft: it s just commercial picture not real device15:17
Lava_Croftit will be sept 5, :p15:18
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Lava_Croftand it stings :(15:18
Khertan_Workbof didn't have any interest in that windows phone15:20
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Lava_Croftsame, thats why it stings15:23
Lava_Croftthose devices were supposed to run a real OS15:24
Lava_Croftnice, cp-571 is pretty classy15:34
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M4rtinKX-Fade: any info about the Apps4MeeGo downtime ? :)16:07
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njsfDoes anybody know how to enter pauses in the contacts phone # ?16:19
njsfUse case: contact for a regular conf call # where you have to enter some digits to activate/enter16:19
njsfon the contacts editor you can enter # and * but not spaces, dots, commas, etc16:20
chem|stnjsf: I know what you mean, that was missing in m5, don't know about m6 though, the proper "pause sign" is "p"16:20
njsfhmmm if I switch to alphanum keyboard I can enter p16:22
njsfI'll try it thanks16:22
chem|streport back pls16:22
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njsfIt works.16:24
njsfGreat! This was a sorely missed feature!16:24
njsfIf only the phone edit keyboard had a p :P16:24
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njsfThat would definitely make it clearer16:24
njsfAll other phones where I had this it was , and . with varying pause times16:25
njsfSo good news :)16:25
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djszapichem|st: we need to talk to the maemo council16:28
djszapichem|st: is Kate also in that?16:28
chem|stdjszapi: what I listed noone else16:30
djszapichem|st: is the council the maintainer for the page or separate people?16:32
chem|stnjsf: the caller numpad has it on third tap of *16:33
chem|stdjszapi: is xfade16:34
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njsfchem|st: it seems the issue may be with swype dialer keyboard16:38
chem|stnjsf: that it is missing in contacts is because it is the vkb16:38
chem|stswype dialer?16:39
chem|stthat is no dialer that is a numpad16:39
njsfyes, when your vkb is swype16:39
njsfthen in the context of entering a phone #16:39
chem|stwithout swype there is a p?16:39
djszapichem|st: he seems to be quite inactive in our community recently. :(16:39
njsfno, without swype the regular dialer pad comes16:40
djszapiwe have blocker issues etc, and all of his work is a sandbox for us16:40
djszapiit should be open for the community and documented.16:40
njsfwhich indeed enters p at the third tap of *16:40
djszapithis is not healthy for the Harmattan community.16:40
njsfwith swype I have to switch alpha16:40
njsfthere is no way to enter p from the vkb that swype opens to enter a phone #16:40
njsfI have no clue why it has instead euro, $ % / = , .  which none of those can be entered into a phone # :)16:41
njsfis there a way to customize the swype vkb ?16:41
chem|stnjsf: it is a numpad not a dialer16:41
njsfok, I stand corrected. Is there a way to customize the swype numpad so it can enter a p :) ?16:42
chem|stguess not16:42
njsfIt is not a big deal anyway, but it would be nicer16:42
njsfNow I know what to do so its all good16:42
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njsfI'll probably blog about this just so others can find the info16:43
njsfCall me picky but I really find hard to find info in TMO16:43
njsfSo I don't think of posting the info there :)16:43
njsfis there a good n9 starting point for N916:45
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njsfguess not :D17:05
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Lava_Croftnow that i have both n900 and n9 in their neato leather case here, you actually notice how much progress Nokia did make18:40
* Lava_Croft sighs18:40
rZrkhertan, t as un dsc a jours de khteditor ?18:40
rZrsorry ... english or die :)18:41
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rZrdjszapiN9, is it ok to mv kde out of shared repo since it does not build anymore ?18:48
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khertanrZr, the dsc is generated by running make with pypackager installed20:44
ZogG_laptoprZr: ping20:44
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ZogG_laptoprZr: jabber?21:04
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khertanComments from the QA team:21:08
khertanISSUE 1#:21:08
khertanFAILED: Compliance with Content Guidelines – Nudity.21:08
khertanSUMMARY: Content items which contain nudity (genitals, female breasts or nipples, bare buttocks, pubic hair or see-through images revealing any of them) are not permitted in the Nokia Store.21:08
khertanISSUE 2#:21:08
khertanFAILED: Compliance with Content Guidelines – Encouragement of Illegal, Dangerous, or Harmful Activities.21:08
khertanSUMMARY: Content items which promote the use of alcohol, tobacco, or illegal drug use are not permitted in the Nokia Store.21:08
khertanISSUE 3#:21:08
khertanFAILED: Suspected IPR Violation.21:08
khertanSUMMARY: This content has been failed due to a suspected Intellectual Property Rights violation. If you believe this has been failed in error and would like to discuss it, please contact
khertanISSUE 4#:21:08
khertanFAILED: Some content in this application is not suitable for younger audiences21:08
khertanSUMMARY: Nokia Store content must be suitable for users across the globe ages 13 or older.21:08
khertanCORRECTIVE ACTIONS: Please remove the images which are not suitable for children age 13 and up. (public, Moderation stalled -> Qa failed)21:08
khertanMOUARF !21:08
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hiemanshukhertan: lol? what app was this for?21:27
ZogG_laptophiemanshu: hie :P21:28
hiemanshuZogG_laptop: hello :P21:28
ZogG_laptopi bet it was wleux or how is it called?21:28
ZogG_laptopkhertan: btw you need to think of size optimzation there and preview as well21:29
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djszapiwe need to find a solution for the cobs solution asaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap21:30
djszapisituation, even21:30
djszapithis is a complete no go to work with.21:31
ZogG_laptopwhat's the problem?21:31
djszapithere are blocker issues, and nobody has access to that, not documented how it works etc21:31
djszapichem|st: do you know anything about this?21:31
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: there is work on migrating and i think few community memebers would get access21:31
djszapisomeone has mentioned the council was already aware of the topic.21:32
djszapiand they have intended to change the situation for us.21:32
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djszapichem|st: we need a community server, not x-fade sandbox.21:33
djszapiaccessible by more than one inactive person, and the operation is well-documented.21:34
khertanZogG_laptop, size is already optimized and there is already a preview21:34
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djszapijavispedro: hey21:35
djszapiI was just complaining about cobs :P21:35
djszapijavispedro: please see the log21:35
djszapiI can perhaps provide an experimental server for this now to try to set up an instance21:36
djszapibut afterwords, we need a server farm21:36
djszapiwe need to ged rid of asap what we now have.21:37
djszapithis has been blocking the Qt5 builds (I built locally) and the KDE stack.21:37
djszapifor unknown reasons, and does not seem that we can get any support or access to the machines.21:37
javispedroout of curiosity, what is the problem with qt5 builds?21:38
djszapijavispedro: hold on21:38
ZogG_laptopkhertan: preview size is not i think, at least last ver i tryed21:38
djszapiseems like black magic which is not a problem21:38
djszapihowever nobody can remove that which is :P21:39
djszapiand we do not get any replies via email, irc, bugzilla and so forth21:40
djszapinot even that "guys, I do not care or I do not have time anymore or at the moment, but here is the access"21:40
djszapiI would most likely log in.21:41
djszapiand check the database21:41
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* djszapi is heading to Qt5 on Raspberry PI or Blacberry, even21:44
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: no one really maintain it now21:44
djszapiit is a pity cobs blocks the Qt5 on Harmattan project.21:44
djszapiit would have been ready already last night.21:45
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djszapijavispedro: let me know if you have any ideas to circumvent this :)21:47
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: i think you need to talk to X-Fade or lbt_away. there might be cobs related chan. i asked somewhere last time i had problem and got help21:48
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djszapijavispedro: I found a solution :)21:54
djszapiI have not basically done anything else than downloading deleting uploading the files again21:55
djszapiso perhaps the database got uncorrupted.21:55
djszapibut for some reason the rebuild was not retriggered.21:56
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bedrockcan i test keyboard layout.xml in scratchbox?22:04
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bedrocki dropped layout.xml into /home/user/.config/meego-keyboard/layout but the meego scratchbox keyboard doesn't see it :(22:04
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thpanyone knows if harmattan's accelerometer works with SDL as joystick and/or if there is anything special to do?22:18
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khertanZogG_laptop,  preview size <<< maybe we don't talk of the same thing, can you elaborate ?22:24
khertanthp, hum ... i would say aegis locked, so require token, and i don't think there is adapt for sdl22:25
ZogG_laptopkhertan: the picture is shown only partly22:25
khertanZogG_laptop, now it s resized by height and you can select/preview which part will be visible and which will be cropped22:26
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khertanthp, it s should :
khertanthp, the patch
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djszapi_thp: it should not work22:33
djszapi_hmm, the reading itself may work though.22:34
djszapi_but SensorControl will not work for one.22:34
djszapi_there was a game at the Qt Contributors Day last year in Munich, but I am unsure if that had been a Nokia developed application.22:35
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djszapi_rZr: yes, I have been on that pages since I mentioned the reupload.22:38
djszapi_perhaps I can get the stack up and running tonight22:39
djszapi_and then we can fork the qt-components project tomorrow22:39
thpok, figured it out..22:39
thp-> SDL_JoystickEventState(SDL_ENABLE);22:39
thpafter that it works, even without aegis tokens22:40
djszapi_yep, it is just reading22:40
djszapi_it is like the led.22:40
djszapi_you can read it, but not control.22:40
piggzlo *22:41
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djszapi_rZr: hah I made a mistake22:48
djszapi_I accidentall uploaded the qt5-base files instead of the qt5-jsbackend files into qt5-jsbackend.22:49
djszapi_That is why it is building now...22:49
djszapi_it leaves me with the thought c-obs is really still broken. :(22:49
ieatlintqt5 beta came out, i'm amazed :P22:53
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djszapi_ieatlint: perhaps you are now dreaming, and someone is gonna shake you up soon. :)22:54
ieatlinti'm very pleased to say my dreams are far more entertaining than qt5 betas22:54
ieatlintare they talking a qt5 final date yet?22:56
ieatlintalright, i'll look forward to january ;)22:56
djszapi_yeah, I think it is goona January or later.22:57
djszapi_it is ok22:57
djszapi_we have now the beta at least22:57
djszapi_it was a bloody long way to go.22:57
ieatlintyeah, i've been waiting on a reasonably stable milestone22:57
ieatlintok, i'm out to lunch22:58
djszapi_I have been awaiting a usable build system for Harmattan for quite a while.22:59
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ZogG_laptopbeford: whats pomodoro?23:55
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