IRC log of #harmattan for Friday, 2012-08-24

ZogG_laptopi remember i read at tmo a while ago and back than iirc it was "in app" thing00:00
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, you should00:00
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah00:00
Sfiet_Konstantinthere were even somebody else who developed some nice stuff00:00
Sfiet_Konstantinbut it was in app00:00
Sfiet_Konstantini wanted something different00:00
Sfiet_Konstantinso I hacked through the lock screen00:00
Sfiet_Konstantinthe hack is not yet complete00:00
Sfiet_Konstantinbut I have interesting results00:01
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khertan_pa 4D is a franco french language, a database, a request language, a programming language, and a rad00:02
Sfiet_Konstantinas a french, i did not even know it :D00:03
khertan_http://www.4d.com/00:04
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, it s not well know00:04
khertan_few jobs, but few know it00:04
khertan_so there is sometime some opportunities00:04
Sfiet_Konstantinseems pretty nice00:04
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ZogG_laptopbeford: you announced it, ah?00:16
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: ping00:19
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merlin1991ZogG_laptop: pong00:23
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: what part was closed/missing from source you wanted?00:24
merlin1991libcontentmanager00:24
merlin1991or rather whatever provides ContentItemSheet.h (my guess went there)00:24
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ZogG_laptopand did they answer you?00:27
merlin1991I never asked, I hacked around it :D00:28
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deram_any idea, what component manages the vibration in receiving messages00:45
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deram_would like to make config option for how long it vibrates00:45
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paZogG_laptop, ping00:59
lucidohello, is there any advance on removing the intrusion detection from harmattan?00:59
lucidowhat is it called?00:59
ZogG_laptoppa: pong00:59
payou told me i can specifysome files in the pro not to go in the packaging ? how? :)01:00
ZogG_laptoppa: you add them and you do not specify where to install. i think they are not installed than. but i might be worng :P01:00
ZogG_laptoppa: what files you want to make?01:00
pai want to say i dont want my qml in the package01:01
pacoz i have them already in the qrc01:01
lucidoaegis right, can it be deactivate? I need to make a demo application for the n9 and cant get a certificate for some functions from nokia01:02
palucido, only with inception or open mode, afaik01:02
ZogG_laptoppa: but you don't add qrc to pro?01:02
lucidoI tried open mode a year ago, didn't really work, what is inception?01:03
payes i do01:03
ZogG_laptop~inception01:03
infobot<a href="http://inception.davepedu.com/">BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH</a>, or how you own your phone (see #inception): https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/01:03
ZogG_laptopthe site is currently down. check TMO01:03
ZogG_laptoppa: than you can see files in qrc category, don't you?01:04
payes i do, but if i package, they end up also as regular files in the package, unless i remove them from the pro01:04
lucidoedit the qrc01:04
ZogG_laptoppa: and you want to close source your app?01:04
papossibly :#)01:05
paim afraid of coderus :)01:05
ZogG_laptoppa: check if you have them as install in pro01:05
pahm, good hint01:05
ZogG_laptoppa: was it a joke about coderus? :)01:05
pahm only a little bit :)01:05
ZogG_laptopyou jst want to close for other reasons :P01:06
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paZogG_laptop, so i checked, but i dont define at all INSTALLS +=01:06
pamust be in the pri?01:06
ZogG_laptopit may be01:06
ZogG_laptopcheck all01:06
ZogG_laptoppa: use mtf :P01:06
pamtf?01:07
pameego touch?01:07
ZogG_laptopframework01:08
ZogG_laptopbut why u want to close qml? i don't get it01:08
pano particular reason, but it's nice to have everything in one executable01:08
ZogG_laptopmeh01:09
ZogG_laptopyou even can sell opensource. so why would you01:09
pastill afraid of coderus ;)01:10
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ZogG_laptoppa: meh01:14
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ZogG_laptophttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PL7pUIhNSm401:14
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pacant i alias the "onClicked" property of some inner component?01:33
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pasay if i want to specify what to do when some button of some bigger conglomerate does when on clicked01:33
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ZogG_laptoppa: what?01:40
ZogG_laptoppa: you mean to change other value or track the value from outside?01:41
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MohammadAGpa:01:44
MohammadAGErr01:44
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: sup01:47
MohammadAGZogG_laptop: Nothing much, got back from a trip to Haifa01:48
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paMohammadAG, yes? :)01:49
paZogG_laptop, no i mean specify the function for the event01:50
pabut i solved that thanks :)01:50
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befordhey ZogG_laptop, yea I announced it :P01:54
befordnot much feedback yet01:55
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: when u come to visit?01:55
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ZogG_laptopbeford: i gave you feedback01:55
ZogG_laptopbeford: put it to apps4meego01:55
ZogG_laptopbtw i have problems with apps4meego client01:56
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sigmaorionhi there! yesterday something really weird happened to my N903:42
sigmaorionafter configuring a corporate MfE account my N9 asked me for a PIN code I was never asked to set03:42
sigmaorionof course I couldn't access the phone03:43
deram_PIN or phone lock code?03:43
sigmaorionthis morning, at the time the alarm sounds every day, the alarm started beeping and the phone was unlocked!!!!03:43
deram_(numpad or qwerty)03:43
sigmaorionderam_, qwerty03:43
sigmaorionupper 1/4 of the screen was blue03:44
deram_thats phones security lock then.. pin is sim cards03:44
sigmaorionderam_, sorry, security code then...03:44
deram_you should set that code in settings03:44
sigmaorionfortunately there seems to exist some big security bug when the alarm sounds and the phone is locked!03:45
sigmaorionderam_, yeap, but I was never asked to set it, so it was not defined03:45
deram_Settings -> Security -> Device lock03:45
sigmaorionit is still not defined and when I try to set it, the phone says "wrong code"!!!03:45
sigmaorionyes, I tried to set it in Settings -> Security -> Device lock. It sais "not defined"03:46
deram_that has been seen to happen at some instances.. at least activating developer modes may activate automatic locking also03:46
sigmaorionI try to set it, type some code and repeat the same code in the verification, but I get "wrong code"03:46
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sigmaorionnow, I would like to set a code so that I can configure the corporate MfE account with no risk to get the phone locked03:47
deram_I think I have heard this happened with MfE also, but can't remember if there was any way other than service point or full reflash...03:48
sigmaorionI was considering going with a full reflash, but it takes some time to get the phone configured my way after that03:49
sigmaorionso, if I can avoid reflashing, it would be much better03:50
deram_http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=542603:50
deram_there is some thread about this issue03:50
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sigmaorionumm, I'll have a look... thank you, didn't find that one03:53
deram_some seem to have reported that the correct password might be the MfE email account password03:55
sigmaorionI tried all my passwords yesterday, none worked for me03:57
deram_easiest thing to try after that might be to use flasher to erase all user data03:58
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sigmaorionderam_, I tried with this http://my-meego.com/faq/showquestion.php?fldAuto=20&faq=1 to retrieve the security code and the result is 1234504:44
sigmaoriondm8tbr, thanks for your help yesterday, really apreciate it04:45
sigmaorionmy phone got unlocked when the alarm sounded!!!04:45
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sigmaorionI will go through full reflash and hope after that I can set my security code04:48
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befordZogG_laptop: ping07:26
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PaulePanterIs there a side about N9 counterfits?11:38
PaulePanterOr do you know if in some other country another phone was marketed as N9?11:38
chem|stPaulePanter: not from nokia11:39
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chem|steasy to recognize proper N9s... http://i.imgur.com/OUcns.jpg11:40
chem|stand the fake n9s have N9 written on them, the original doesn't11:41
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chem|sthttp://www.efytimes.com/admin/useradmin/photo/Nokia-N9-Knockoff.jpg11:42
PaulePanterhttp://www.ebay.de/itm/nokia-n9-/261084975239?pt=DE_Handy_s&hash=item3cc9e09087#ht_500wt_118211:42
PaulePanterThe image looks like just a copy.11:42
chem|stthe frontcamera is not in the corner too...11:42
PaulePanterBut the device which was delivered has N9 written on it top left above the screen. :/11:42
PaulePanterAny hints on what to do in such case with Ebay in Germany?11:43
chem|streport counterfit at ebay and request a return, is the sender from germany?11:44
PaulePanterYes, she/he is from Germany.11:44
PaulePanterLooking from the offer, which is placed just for one day, I am unsure if this is already an indication of deliberate action.11:44
chem|streport, request your money back11:45
PaulePanterWill tell my friend to do that.11:45
PaulePanterchem|st: Thanks!11:45
chem|stnot for no reason there is ebayKäuferschutz11:46
chem|sttake pictures, wait for the money to return, go to police!11:46
PaulePanterchem|st: Yeah, unfortunately no PayPal option was offered as far as I know.11:47
chem|stthe problem with fakes is contaminant loads (does not apply to most clothes for some reason)11:49
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PaulePanterchem|st: I have to look contaminant load up.11:52
chem|stschadstoiffbelastung11:52
PaulePanterOh. Thanks.11:53
PaulePanterchem|st: So, do you mean that is an additional law that the seller breaks?11:54
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chem|stadidas fakes is a wonderful story... long story short - the factory charges double for supplies, one shift produces adidas(TM) the other fakes, the only difference is there is no quality assurance...11:55
chem|stPaulePanter: contamination? probably but import and reselling of fakes is just enough for serious charges11:56
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PaulePanterchem|st: Understood. Thanks for the explanation!12:04
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KleggasHi all. I am facing an interesting bug I got with a TextInput element, and wondering if anybody else had similar results. I got a view which contains 1 image, in that image 1 TextInput. I also have a button which, onClicked is to call a python method sending the text from the TextInput field... this text is sent empty (even if field is filled) about 80% of the time, and 20% it is sent correctly as parameter to my function call...12:27
KleggasSomeone had something similar, where TextInput.text doesn't retreive the text you have entered into it?12:27
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khertan_Morning all !12:49
Sfiet_Konstantinmorning khertan_12:49
khertan_CissWit, thx for lolix, i found an interesting announce on it :)12:51
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khertan_hum look like store.ovi.com is down13:34
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lucidohello, can I use the otherwise locked features such as phone lock control on the n9 if I install inception?13:57
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petteriany idea what is wrong. /usr/bin/msyngd uses lots of cpu time and camera app is not respodingin?13:59
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rashm2kNormally you can create a custom component in a seperate QML file and then use the name of the QML file to include the component in other QML files14:22
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rashm2kBut how would I create a custom component and use it in the same QML file?14:23
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djszapirzr: hi, have you worked on modularized qt5 snapshot packages into the community repository?15:46
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djszapirzr: perhaps we could pull off a qtcore as a first experiment with a snapshot version.15:49
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Lava_CroftHahaha16:54
Lava_Crofthttp://www.mysoti.com/mysoti/designer/ElopButtface16:54
Lava_CroftA fucking winner!16:54
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rzrdjszapi: not yet but it may be planned . but there is already a qt5 repo17:08
Lava_Crofthmm, I have enabled developer mode and I can ping my N9 over my wifi connection17:09
Lava_Croftbut it keeps refusing the connection17:09
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Lava_Crofti cant seem to find out exaclty what is wrong, besides me failing17:09
djszapirzr: I will try to package the basic qtcore module this weekend in the community repository.17:09
djszapiafaik the snapshot package done by the webkit guys are old.17:10
rzrdjszapi: cool , btw i created sub repo testing ustable and stable17:10
rzrdjszapi: i have gtk in testing17:10
rzrdjszapi: so you can push qt5 to unstable ?17:10
djszapido you think it is worth it?17:11
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rzrwell i had a litle feed back on other pkg17:11
rzrsuch as gtk17:11
rzrthere is nothing to loose17:12
rzrand it think we should also think of a backup obs too17:12
djszapicannot you get those feedback in the community repository directly?17:12
rzrobs manage bugreports17:12
djszapirzr: we will see.17:14
djszapirzr: I will have Qt5 earlier on Harmattan than my raspberry pi, or perhaps not. :-)17:17
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rzrdjszapi: yes btw i am about to be offline for comming weeks17:18
rzrdjszapi: so u're the gate keeper now17:18
rzruntil october17:18
djszapiI would prefer not. :)17:18
djszapiI do not have too much time nowadays unfortunately.17:18
djszapirzr: what are you up to until October?17:18
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djszapirzr: please do not build any packages tonight in the community repository20:47
djszapiI would like to get the qt5 packages built.20:47
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gtxHi. Does harmattan's push notifications actually works?21:08
gtxSeems like it doesnt to me. Maybe a region issue (works only in USA)?21:09
gtxmore specific: push notifications for facebook and twitter (native clients)21:13
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Lava_CroftI dont think those ever work on the N9?21:14
nieldkI would say. Its not working reliably. But on my N9 I do get notifications on what seemms to be a random interval21:15
Lava_CroftDon't you set the time to update feeds yourself21:16
Lava_Croftand doesnt it push notifications at each update (in my case each hour)21:16
nieldkyes, but it doesnt seem to actually really refresh on a stable interval21:17
Lava_CroftIm not really sure if push notifications, like on for example iOS or Android, ever worked or work on harmattan21:17
Lava_CroftIt does so here21:17
javispedrogtx: I don't the native clients have push notifications21:17
Lava_Croftjavispedro: exactly21:17
javispedrogtx: there's some support for ovi push notifications21:17
Lava_CroftThe only thing that does kind of push notifcations is gmail21:17
Lava_Croftif you set it yourself21:17
javispedrogtx: didn't test but would like to know -- to implement something like NotifyMyAndroid21:17
javispedroovi notifications = https://projects.developer.nokia.com/notificationsapi/wiki21:18
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Lava_CroftI think i used that for email on the n90021:19
Lava_Croftor something related to it21:19
javispedroit has never been implemented on the n90021:19
Lava_Croftor maybe it was something completely different, its all so shitty over at Ovi/Nokia21:19
Lava_Croftok then21:19
javispedrothe Harm docs are in http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/notification-engine/21:19
gtxjavispedro: as far as I understood, it's not a *real push* notifications21:20
javispedrowhat is not a real push?21:21
javispedrothose certainly are.21:21
gtxtwitter/facebook client21:21
gtxbecause you need to set up an interval21:21
javispedroyeah, as said, the native twitter/facebook clients don't do push notifications.21:21
gtxso, IMO, it's a regular pull notif.21:21
gtxthat's so strange... doesnt nokia should support devs by showing example?21:22
gtx:-(21:22
faenilhas anyone used the qml video element guys?21:22
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rzrdjszapi, ok22:12
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beford:D22:14
djszapi_rzr: doing that atm22:16
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djszapi_rzr: scratchbox perl is too old for Qt5 :/22:27
djszapi_oh there was an update, and it is now 5.10..22:28
djszapi_that looks ok.22:28
djszapi_something else is wrong with the scratchbox perl. :/22:29
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rzrdjszapi, i let u obs for the whole week/end23:25
rzrlater23:25
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: my pi on it's way t me23:32
djszapi_good23:34
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n9appscomhey, anyone here?23:56
djszapi_shoot23:57
n9appscomlooking for some beta testers...23:57
n9appscomIt's a small installer app for n9-apps.com23:57
n9appscommakes it a little bit easier to install apps, with push notifications23:58
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