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rigopa, I escaped android to avoid google. But good synchronization to Kontact or Evolution is missing. N9 can do syncML. Can you extend your tool for those who are not google fans?00:28
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parigo:well maybe, but the fact is that gmail syncml sucks00:46
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paby the way, anybody here owning a Zephyr HxR belt?00:47
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ZogG_laptopn9appscom? wtf?01:14
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ZogG_laptoplol01:15
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pajust a silly question: is there a way to keep some files open in qtcreator project browser, without having them in the pro file?01:31
pa(for exmaple if you have them in the qrc)01:32
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ZogG_laptopyou can add files without installing them why don't you add them to pro?01:43
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M4rtinKrZr: hi :)02:50
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sigmaorionI configured Mfe account for the company I work for and now my N9 is asking me for a PIN code I haven't ever set, it's locked!!!!07:59
sigmaorionwhat can I do?07:59
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dm8tbrsigmaorion: probably you did long ago and MfE just switched it back on08:03
dm8tbror the previous owner had one set if you got it used08:03
dm8tbrthe solution to is to have flasher wipe the device in secure mode and reflash proper images.08:04
sigmaorionI'm sure I never set that code, ever, and I bought the phone brand new08:04
dm8tbrnote: you'll loose all data on the device08:04
sigmaoriondm8tbr, I'd like to keep MyDocs, I have videos of my daughter!!!!08:05
sigmaorionanyway, if that is not possible... should I download the firmware or will flasher just wipe all the phone's user data?08:06
dm8tbrsigmaorion: as far as I understood the logic it's so that the device forces you to set a lock code if the MfE server requires it08:06
dm8tbrmaybe you mistook it and entered your pin?08:06
sigmaorionwell, the problem is that the phone never asked me for a code08:07
dm8tbrboth screens can be distinguished by the different background color of the upper 1/4 of the screen. SIM PIN = green; lock code = blue08:07
sigmaorionwell, it's red before entering any code, but after entering the first character it turns blue08:08
sigmaorionI'm completely sure it's because of the MFE account I set up because the company's policy needs a security code08:08
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dm8tbrback in the old days the default code was 12345, but as I said I thought the device forced to set a code08:09
sigmaorionbut as the phone never asked me to set it, I thought it would not accept that policy and that would be all08:09
sigmaorionI tried 12345, but it didn't work08:09
dm8tbrin response to your earlier question. you'd need to download the firmware yes. both OS and eMMC08:10
sigmaorionok, downloading both right now08:11
sigmaorionEMMC is just default content for the phone, right? Sample videos, pictures, etc?08:11
dm8tbryes08:11
sigmaoriondm8tbr, thanks a lot for your support08:12
sigmaorionI have 3 more tries08:12
dm8tbrbtw: there is one thing to try before you wipe your device08:12
sigmaorionyeap, tell me08:12
dm8tbrit might not work due to a set lock code though08:12
dm8tbrhttp://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state08:13
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dm8tbrin your case you'd be after one of the other partitions to get to mydocs08:14
dm8tbrit is possible though, that nolo will refuse to boot that kernel due to the lock code08:14
sigmaorionwhat is the MALF file?08:15
dm8tbryou don't care about the MALF file08:15
dm8tbras your device didn't MALF08:16
dm8tbrafter step 6 you have to do your own thing08:16
sigmaorionoh, ok, I got it now... backup my files!08:17
dm8tbras in: mount MyDocs and copy all the data you want to keep08:17
sigmaorionheh!08:17
sigmaorionthat would be great!08:17
dm8tbrno promises, but please report here if it worked.08:17
dm8tbryou're on PR1.3?08:17
sigmaorionI should restart my PC and boot Linux08:17
sigmaorionyeap, PR1.308:17
dm8tbrok, NOLO is more anal since PR1.2 ... let's see08:18
sigmaorionMyDocs will be ext3 partition for sure!08:18
dm8tbrFAT3208:18
sigmaorionreally?08:18
dm8tbrI'd expect it to be sdX4 or sthg08:18
dm8tbryes08:18
dm8tbrthere is rootfs, home, mydocs08:18
sigmaorionI can do it under windows, then08:18
sigmaorionso I can try it while the firmware is being downloaded08:19
dm8tbrif you get flasher to work on windows08:19
sigmaorionwell, I flashed my phone to update from PR1,1 to PR1,2 because it had a latin american firmware that would take years to get OTA upgrade08:20
sigmaorionand it worked fine!08:20
dm8tbrthen this should work too08:21
sigmaorionbut I didn't need any windows driver before08:21
sigmaorionshould I install it now?08:21
dm8tbrif it worked before, try without08:21
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sigmaorionwell, trying right now08:27
sigmaorionit seems that W7 gets the driver automatically08:27
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sigmaoriondm8tbr, it didn't do the trick08:32
sigmaorionit just boots normally08:32
sigmaorionbut I'm not sure on what is going on as Windows says that the driver was not installed, but if I install it from the link in the site, it sais I already have a driver installed08:33
sigmaorionweird08:33
sigmaorionwow, no, wait, it worked!08:34
sigmaorionbut I get no mass storage08:35
sigmaorion.......08:35
sigmaorionI don't know08:35
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dm8tbrsigmaorion: you might want to try under linux. easier to see what happens08:36
sigmaorionyeap08:36
dm8tbron windows you can open the partitioning tool to see if you see those 4 or 5 partitions on a USB device08:36
sigmaorionbut I have to wait for the firmware to download08:37
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dm8tbryup08:37
dm8tbrbrb, need to walk to the Orkplace08:37
sigmaorionsure! anyway, Windows sais that the USB device was not recogniced08:39
sigmaorionthat's why I love Linux08:39
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djszapi_Does anybody have any experience with the playbook market, if any in comparison with Harmattan? Does it go better for an application developer, or the downloads are less?08:45
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Sazpaimonwhat's with these people that are concerned with battery life when their phone is indoors08:52
Sazpaimoncant they just keep it on the charger?08:52
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vi__how do i remove open mode kernel and flash back to complete stock?10:56
vi__oneclick flasher?10:56
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vladestvi__: you might get finished without GSM support11:00
paauch11:01
vi__is there some kind of guide?11:01
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vladestvi__: n9 or n950?11:01
vi__n95011:02
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vi__vladest: why will oneclick flasher remove gsm support?11:07
vi__is there anything written about this?11:07
vladestvi__: here is similar issue for n9:11:08
vladesthttp://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=3543011:08
vladestvi__: in short - if you upgrade gsm module to 1.3 level on 950, you cant reflsh it with flasher11:09
vladestvi__: using 1.2 stock image11:09
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vi__vladest: aah.11:13
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vi__vladest: my n950 is at v1.2b+open mode kernel. that means my gsm is at v1.3 right?11:14
vi__vladest: my n950 is at v1.2b+open mode kernel. that means my gsm is at v1.2 right?11:14
vi__^1.211:14
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vladestvi__: just check your device info. if its still 1.2 than no problems, afaik11:16
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valdur55vi__, you used -  --flash-only=kernel11:25
valdur55vi__, why you don't do it again?11:25
valdur55logicaly , when you don't add additional kernel, then it will use bin's kernel11:26
vi__so check device info, if gsm version=<1.2 then oneclick flash, else cry.11:28
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djszapirzr: oh btw, my understanding was also that we will not need automoc in the future, just an updated cmake.12:24
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rzrgood12:38
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djszapipa: how did you measure the 105 km/h for your record with your racebike?14:45
ZogG_laptopcheated14:48
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi: you oon sportstrcker?14:48
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rzrZogG_laptop, or any one here has any interest into gtk ?14:58
djszapirzr: M4rtinK14:58
djszapiafaik14:58
djszapior he had at least ;)14:58
rzrhe is afk15:02
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M4rtinKrzr: hi :)15:08
M4rtinK?? :)15:08
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padjszapi, with bike computer15:26
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pahey guys, anybod here owns Zephyr HxM?15:26
djszapipa: there were no cars on the road around?15:28
djszapiI would feel a bit endangering with traffic around. :)15:28
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pawell it was a steep road down from a mountain pass, and coincidentally this road had a decently long straight tract :)15:30
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djszapiright15:32
djszapiI would not dare to bike with that speed near other vehicles. :)15:32
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rzrM4rtinK: hi again15:57
rzrM4rtinK: i finally built gtk but i cant use it15:57
rzrM4rtinK: can u have a look15:57
rzrM4rtinK: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=librsvg2&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan%3Atesting&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard15:58
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M4rtinKrzr: sorry, too busy at the moment16:01
M4rtinKI'll be away for the weekend, but I'll check it out when I get back16:01
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rzrM4rtinK: no problem we're not hurry16:23
rzrM4rtinK: do u have a gitourious account ?16:24
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rzranyone can apply to join https://gitorious.org/+harmattan16:29
djszapiwhy gitorious? :O16:30
rzrwhy not16:30
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause gitorious is nice :)16:30
djszapigood that all the projects I participated to, moved away.16:31
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rashm2kquick question on Linux16:34
rashm2kwhat does the /run/udev/firmware-missing do?16:34
rashm2kwhat does the /run/udev/firmware-missing dir do?16:35
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rzrdjszapi: I forked existing repo so i keep it16:39
rzrbtw gitourious is floss16:39
rzrthis is a reason to stay on it16:39
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djszapirzr: that is not the only floss software..16:41
rzrof course not16:42
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Sfiet_Konstantinyeah but a lot are not floss16:42
rzri will update https://maemo.gitorious.org/+harmattan/hildon/gtk-rzr/blobs/user-rzr/debian/changelog16:43
rzrkeep an eye on it16:43
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djszapirzr: to be honest, I would prefer talking to the maemo team.16:44
rzrM4rtinK: i will update https://maemo.gitorious.org/+harmattan/hildon/gtk-rzr/blobs/user-rzr/debian/changelog16:45
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djszapiKate had plans with others for centralization.16:45
djszapithis gitorious move is just against that.16:45
djszapiPerhaps, I can ask them.16:46
rzrwhich gitorious move ?16:46
rzranyway git is easy to relocate16:47
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* khertan_ is going crazy with that Flickable + TextArea binding loop ...17:40
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Sfiet_Konstantinflickable.contentHeight: textArea.height ?17:46
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khertan_Sfiet and for width ?17:52
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, ^17:52
khertan_you can't ... :) binding loop17:52
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, this occur when you didn't want a fixed with of TextArea when you didn't use word wrap17:53
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khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, this happen because TextEdit in the TextArea component have his property binded to TextArea.width - UI.something17:54
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, so i forked TextArea :) Ensure visible for width is also missing17:54
khertan_now i need to test that i didn't put more problem than i solve17:55
khertan_:)17:55
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Sfiet_Konstantinlol17:56
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat a solution17:56
Sfiet_Konstantinbinding loops are really horribles :(17:56
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khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, yep ... poor solution but TextArea aren't designed to support horizontal flicker ... :(18:08
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befordhi18:24
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ZogG_laptopbeford: don't "hi" me!!!18:50
befordhi18:50
hiemanshuZogG_laptop: hi18:51
ZogG_laptophey18:51
ZogG_laptopsup mates?18:51
ZogG_laptopbritish english is better than american i must say18:52
ZogG_laptophiemanshu: any updates? problems?18:52
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hiemanshuZogG_laptop: updates yes, my back is better now, and my new N950 is amazing :P18:53
ZogG_laptophiemanshu: did you change token in last version right?18:53
ZogG_laptophiemanshu: new n950? mazal tov? how did you get one?18:54
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hiemanshuZogG_laptop: yes I did18:54
hiemanshuZogG_laptop: and new n950 = replacement of old one18:54
* ZogG_laptop is embarresed now18:55
ZogG_laptophiemanshu: i was confused with your nick and heymaster :P18:55
hiemanshulol18:56
ZogG_laptopmy turn on ps318:56
ZogG_laptopplaying need for speed run18:56
hiemanshuZogG_laptop: run is boring18:56
hiemanshuZogG_laptop: I finished it in a little over 4 hours straight18:57
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ZogG_laptophiemanshu: doing chalengings now19:00
hiemanshuthose are worse19:00
ZogG_laptopi miss dominotor from ps2 :(19:00
ZogG_laptopburnout19:00
ZogG_laptopparadise sucks19:00
ZogG_laptopdomintor was awesome.19:01
ZogG_laptopthe last challenge is 1M and i made something like 999.980 . you need to go on oposite side to earn boost thru all laps :P19:01
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* Arkenoi is desperately trying to get replacement device or spare parts from Nokia, they said they are trying to find..19:07
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befordhttp://www.phonearena.com/news/Nokia-Finnish-investors-considering-gathering-signatures-to-get-CEO-Elop-sacked_id3361119:10
khertan_Is there a way to get a list of all apps devel in Python on Harmattan ? (getting info from ovistore is quite obscure)19:11
ZogG_laptoptoo late19:12
ZogG_laptopkhertan_: sup man19:12
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khertan_ZogG_laptop, yop !19:14
* khertan_ hate libreoffice ... Crash on save just loose the edit on my cv19:16
khertan_pfff19:16
deram_won't it find autosave from /tmp?19:18
khertan_deram_, the crash seems related to autosave19:20
khertan_....19:20
khertan_file corrupted19:20
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Sfiet_Konstantinuse LaTeX to write your CV19:21
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deram_auch..19:22
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khertan_yep ... not so much works ... (didn't have not many interesting thing to tell on my resume)19:23
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Sfiet_Konstantinkhertan_: really ? I thought the contrary19:25
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, i'm trying to catch a job of python devel, but my works experiences are as a 4D devel19:26
Sfiet_Konstantini see19:26
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, and didn't have so much experience in python devel :) even if i do many oss in python :)19:26
Sfiet_Konstantinkhertan_: with all the apps you developed, that should be enough I think19:27
Sfiet_Konstantincompared to others19:27
khertan_recruiters in france didn't care of what you have done as a hobby ... but more on the scholar degree you have19:27
Sfiet_Konstantinoh yeah ...19:27
Sfiet_Konstantinthe "diplôme d'ingénieur"19:28
khertan_indeed19:28
Sfiet_Konstantineven at python devel ?19:28
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khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, there is so few python devel jobs19:28
khertan_or maybe i didn't look at the right place19:28
Sfiet_Konstantinstrange, because python is simple and get work done19:28
Sfiet_Konstantinif java were replaced by python, the it world would be better19:28
Sfiet_KonstantinI think python is often used in research labs19:29
CissWitkhertan_: have a look at lolix19:29
Sfiet_Konstantinnot often in production19:29
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, python is also well used in public research lab19:29
khertan_but public research labs index pay on your degree19:30
Sfiet_Konstantinkhertan_: that's what i meant19:30
Sfiet_Konstantinseriously :S19:30
Sfiet_Konstantinand in France, public research labs do not pay well19:30
Sfiet_Konstantinnuff said19:30
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Sfiet_Konstantinwell, I'm gonna go ... more work on widgets for me :)19:31
khertan_1400 € / month for working on a distributed calcul to process image coming from many different telescope19:32
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, :)19:32
Sfiet_Konstantinyou know how EPFL pay in Switzerland ?19:32
khertan_Sfiet_Konstantin, nope19:32
Sfiet_Konstantinbetween 1 and 2 times more19:32
khertan_:)19:32
Sfiet_Konstantinand that's just a PhD19:32
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khertan_CissWit, thx not so much python offers :)19:41
CissWitsometimes there are :)19:42
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CissWiti didn't wrote python on my CV but had two offers for a python job in a couple of weeks when i had my CV there19:43
rzri could join epfl once but i stayed in my place19:45
rzrthey have cool 3d projects19:45
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valdur55Nice! Irssi is now on PR1.3 :P21:31
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paSfiet_Konstantin, any nice latex template for CVs?22:07
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pakhertan_, what is 4D devel?22:07
Sfiet_Konstantinmoderncv ?22:08
pathanks22:09
pamy html one is not soo great22:09
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valdur55,e23:31
rzre'23:34
Sfiet_Konstantinf ?23:34
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Sfiet_Konstantinor ë maybe ?23:34
valdur55sorry. i am testing irssi :p23:35
Sfiet_Konstantinirssi ? What's that ?23:36
valdur55terminal irc client23:36
Sfiet_Konstantinok23:36
rzrevery geek should knows that23:36
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rzrirssi is to irc what msword is to marketing job23:37
Sfiet_Konstantini'm not geek enough, I'm using konversation23:37
rzron n9 ?23:37
Sfiet_Konstantinno23:37
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm on my laptop23:37
rzrshame on you23:37
Sfiet_KonstantinI can't code on the N9(50) :(23:38
rzrI dont that much23:38
Sfiet_Konstantinif you port QtCreator on it, I'm in23:38
deram_if irssi is like msword, that makes ircii like wordperfect23:38
rzrSfiet_Konstantin, :)23:38
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ZogG_laptopSfiet_Konstantin: it wouldn't work with qtcreator on n9/5023:40
ZogG_laptopas the screen small and no resistance screen23:40
Sfiet_Konstantin(joke inside ...)23:41
rzri showed eclipse on n95023:41
rzrthrough rdesktop23:41
Sfiet_Konstantindo this even worked ?23:43
rzri managed to hit the quit menu entry23:43
Sfiet_Konstantin:)23:44
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valdur55lol23:50
valdur55how can i open link on new window?23:52
Sfiet_Konstantinlong press23:52
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valdur55and then 'apen on new window'?23:53
valdur55open*23:53
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ZogG_laptopyou can code on n9, as you can wroote program on paper. it would work, but it's not the most comfy way23:53
ZogG_laptopvim on tablet can be better though23:53
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Sfiet_Konstantinvim on computer is still the best23:54
Sfiet_Konstantina proper keyboard is needed23:54
ZogG_laptopscreen is improtant as well23:55
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah23:55
ZogG_laptopand size is one of the things23:55
ZogG_laptopas you can set high resolution on small screen and it will contain everything, but still it would be too small than23:55
ZogG_laptopand "computer in my pocket" doesn't mean it would replace a pc/laptop23:56
ZogG_laptopSfiet_Konstantin: i saw your widgets screenshots23:57
ZogG_laptopit's in app and not replacement system ui, right?23:57
Sfiet_Konstantindid you see the blog post ?23:58
Sfiet_Konstantinor TMO ?23:58
Sfiet_Konstantinit replaces the lock screen23:58
Sfiet_Konstantinan app is not enough23:58
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ZogG_laptopit replaces lock screen? nice23:59
ZogG_laptopno i didn't read the blog post23:59

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