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| pa | finally i think i found the way | 00:57 |
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| pa | damn sometimes qml i soo ugly | 00:57 |
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| pa | stupid questions: are there line images that are not flat color but that have some sort of gradient falloff towards the edges? | 01:46 |
| pa | in the phone, i mean | 01:46 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: of course | 02:59 |
| djszapi_ | unless I misunderstand what you mean by "line image", so could you please clarify? | 03:00 |
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| ZogG_laptop | heymaster: nope | 10:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | new version doesn't work | 10:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | e-yes_: re | 10:06 |
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| heymaster | ZogG_laptop: ping | 10:45 |
| heymaster | maybe try to delete host and add ? | 10:45 |
| heymaster | o try to delete and install app | 10:46 |
| heymaster | http://cl.ly/image/0n1q1i3B1m1O << works for me .. rda | 10:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | heymaster: doesn't work. when i uninstall the user data stays on phone, waybe coz of it | 10:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | nothing in syslog | 10:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't have time to check it now | 10:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'll check it later | 10:58 |
| heymaster | ok | 11:01 |
| heymaster | thanks | 11:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | heymaster: last email doesn't work as well | 11:04 |
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| jesuschrist_ | hello | 11:51 |
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| jesuschrist_ | anyone applied the traffic patch here ? | 13:47 |
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| javispedro | any Madde expert around? | 17:04 |
| javispedro | command line arguments path rewriting seems to have stopped working on mine (e.g. -I/usr/include/foo -> -I$SYSROOT_DIR/usr/include/foo) | 17:05 |
| javispedro | well, it works for gcc, but doesn't for Qt's moc, and I was wondering where exactly this path conversion is done | 17:05 |
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| Lava_Croft | laziness question | 17:12 |
| Lava_Croft | :does the n9 music player play flac | 17:12 |
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| jesuschrist_ | guys anyone | 17:20 |
| jesuschrist_ | tried | 17:20 |
| jesuschrist_ | the maps traffic patch ? | 17:20 |
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| javispedro | Lava_Croft: yes, I think it plays FLAC OoB. | 17:22 |
| Lava_Croft | javispedro: thanks! | 17:23 |
| Lava_Croft | you even answer my laziness question \o/ | 17:23 |
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| javispedro | and I workarounded my Madde issue by just adding INCLUDEPATH += $$(SYSROOT_DIR)/usr/include/foo to .pro file | 17:29 |
| javispedro | though /me doesn't feel good to just keep adding workaround over workaround as this platform's toolchains fall down and break | 17:29 |
| djszapi_ | that should be a wrong decision ideally | 17:35 |
| djszapi_ | why do you need to even do that? | 17:35 |
| javispedro | djszapi_: Madde no longers does that for the MOC for me | 17:36 |
| javispedro | I learnt how the "rewriting" is done for Gcc, with the --sysroot binary patching et al | 17:37 |
| javispedro | but couldn't figure it out for MOC, so I suspect it either was accidentally removed in a update, or it was just never done. | 17:37 |
| Elleo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmu0JLjjQac <-- video demoing my amazon cloud reader app :) | 17:38 |
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| javispedro | Elleo: interesting! | 17:48 |
| Elleo | :) | 17:48 |
| djszapi_ | javispedro: should work | 17:48 |
| djszapi_ | QtCreator also uses madde | 17:48 |
| djszapi_ | in addition, people built qt applications "by hand". | 17:49 |
| javispedro | djszapi_: this only shows up if MOC needs to parse a non-Qt include from the sysroot | 17:50 |
| javispedro | e.g. | 17:50 |
| javispedro | q_DECLARE_INTERFACE & Q_INTERFACES | 17:50 |
| djszapi_ | well, there is a --sysroot option for this. | 17:51 |
| djszapi_ | if you specify the sysroot, the other things should just work. | 17:51 |
| javispedro | where, in moc? | 17:51 |
| djszapi_ | no of course; for qmake. | 17:52 |
| javispedro | nah, qmake only talks in terms of qmakespecs | 17:52 |
| djszapi_ | I am not even sure, what you mean... | 17:53 |
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| javispedro | whatever it is, it was introduced with the 1.2 target indeed: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php?230577-Help!-errors-of-build-project-targeting-Harmattan | 17:55 |
| javispedro | djszapi_: the problem as you can see is that gcc in Madde is patched to convert -I/usr/include/foo into -I$SYSROOT_DIR/usr/include/foo | 17:55 |
| javispedro | djszapi_: but moc in Madde is not patched that way since the 1.2 target (it must have been in 1.0 and 1.1) | 17:56 |
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| javispedro | so as you can see on that poor gentleman's build log, -I/usr/include/meegoimframework works for gcc but moc gives errors | 17:56 |
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| javispedro | actually, s/gcc/g++/ | 17:57 |
| djszapi_ | I do not understand why g++ should be patched | 17:59 |
| djszapi_ | if qmake generates the proper Makefile for the given platform, it should just work (TM) | 18:00 |
| djszapi_ | that is the reason why qmake has an option --sysroot, which we sadly lack for cmake. | 18:00 |
| javispedro | qmake will not rewrite INCLUDEPATHs, and there 's no such option at least in my qmake | 18:00 |
| djszapi_ | huh? | 18:00 |
| djszapi_ | what do you think the --sysroot option was designed for ... ignoring? | 18:00 |
| javispedro | $ grep -i sysroot /usr/bin/qmake | 18:01 |
| javispedro | returns nothing | 18:01 |
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| djszapi_ | sorry, configure | 18:02 |
| djszapi_ | weird, I thought this option was available for qmake. | 18:03 |
| javispedro | I do think it has a configure-time sysroot option indeed | 18:03 |
| djszapi_ | sounds like a bugreport against qmake | 18:03 |
| javispedro | but madde cannot use it because sysroot changes at runtime | 18:04 |
| djszapi_ | build suites /should/ have sysroot | 18:04 |
| djszapi_ | and manage everything automagically. | 18:04 |
| djszapi_ | this was accepted by the cmake developers as well | 18:04 |
| djszapi_ | not that I would ever touch the qmake codebase, but still | 18:05 |
| djszapi_ | well, yes building qmake, you cannot expect using qmake's options | 18:05 |
| djszapi_ | for bootstrapping reasons. | 18:05 |
| djszapi_ | but yes, qmake definitely should have this, and I am certain it is reported already since it is a must have feature for cross building. | 18:06 |
| djszapi_ | others hacks keep coming like "patching g++". | 18:06 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise* | 18:06 |
| javispedro | I just noticed that qmake does indeed fix the library paths | 18:06 |
| javispedro | so this requires more examination | 18:06 |
| javispedro | err | 18:07 |
| javispedro | no | 18:07 |
| javispedro | it doesn't, sorry =) | 18:07 |
| javispedro | it's patched gcc again. | 18:07 |
| djszapi_ | well, you can always manually fix the broken qmake generation. :) | 18:08 |
| javispedro | or just add the above workaround to the .pro ;P | 18:08 |
| djszapi_ | might be that you need to be a makefile expert though | 18:08 |
| djszapi_ | yeah | 18:08 |
| djszapi_ | now I wonder, why qt guys told me cmake is a crap | 18:09 |
| djszapi_ | it does not have a sysroot option | 18:09 |
| djszapi_ | but qmake has, so it is shiny | 18:09 |
| djszapi_ | I accepted cmake is a crap with this, but apparently so is qmake... | 18:09 |
| javispedro | I wouldn't add such option to a build system anyway unless you want to make it very coupled to a specifc language | 18:09 |
| javispedro | if you want to rewrite include paths you would need to know the correct syntax, and that depends on the language; qmake might assume c++ and do it, but cmake cannot assume C++ AFAIK. | 18:10 |
| djszapi_ | sorry, you have lost me. | 18:11 |
| javispedro | it's not important, just an opinion. | 18:12 |
| djszapi_ | I do not even understand your opinion | 18:12 |
| djszapi_ | cmake is for native code accepeting makefiles | 18:12 |
| djszapi_ | C/C++ | 18:12 |
| djszapi_ | and sysroot would not give any additional vulnerability since you can already use include paths anyways | 18:12 |
| javispedro | cmake can be used for anything other than C/C++? | 18:13 |
| djszapi_ | it is just that it gives a prefix automagically. | 18:13 |
| djszapi_ | cmake is a cross platform make | 18:13 |
| djszapi_ | it generates a makefile | 18:13 |
| javispedro | so you cannot really create a cross platform, language universal sysroot option :) | 18:13 |
| djszapi_ | makefile is used for native languages | 18:13 |
| djszapi_ | well, you could use the install target | 18:14 |
| djszapi_ | only | 18:14 |
| javispedro | not every compiler uses -I and -L for example. | 18:14 |
| djszapi_ | but then you would not have problems with include anyways | 18:14 |
| djszapi_ | I really do not know what additional risk you are talking about. | 18:14 |
| djszapi_ | who cares about -l -L ? | 18:14 |
| djszapi_ | that is an internal to cmake... | 18:14 |
| djszapi_ | sysroot *is* an universal prefix for cross builds. | 18:15 |
| djszapi_ | like madde etc | 18:15 |
| djszapi_ | I am really not getting the problem, so did the cmake developers not either. | 18:15 |
| djszapi_ | and yes, qmake should have the same feature in place, but | 18:15 |
| djszapi_ | short life to qmake! :-) | 18:15 |
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| heymaster | anyone want to test my little app? | 18:36 |
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| rashm2k | +- | 18:43 |
| rashm2k | how can you set a value from a ListView which is backed by a Qobject based list? | 18:44 |
| rashm2k | QObject based ListModel | 18:44 |
| heymaster | rashm2k: just add method to you model and context property | 18:46 |
| heymaster | set* | 18:47 |
| rashm2k | because of the way my code works | 18:47 |
| heymaster | you can expose object to qml .. | 18:47 |
| rashm2k | I expose the class that generates the model | 18:47 |
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| rashm2k | I expose the class that generates the model to my QML objects using setCOntextProperty | 18:48 |
| heymaster | so you can add method in your class to change model | 18:48 |
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| rashm2k | that will require a private variable to store the qobject list - I wish to avoid that | 18:50 |
| rashm2k | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativemodels.html#qmlmodels | 18:50 |
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| rashm2k | I have use the above code QObjectList-based model section to create my list model | 18:50 |
| rashm2k | and in my ListView I have model: myClass.getListModel | 18:51 |
| rashm2k | and in my ListView I have model: myClass.getListModel() | 18:51 |
| heymaster | yes, i did this in my app too | 18:51 |
| rashm2k | If you look at the example in the code above - how would I call setColor from QML? | 18:53 |
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| heymaster | i'm not expert. but you need call exposed object method (which depends of row number) and maybe generate string of hex color | 18:58 |
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| rashm2k | What I mean is do I say list.model.color = "green"? | 19:01 |
| rashm2k | or do I use list.model.setColor("green")? | 19:01 |
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| heymaster | rashm2k: sorry, don't know :/ maybe someone else on channel can help you | 19:07 |
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| heymaster | i did with qml more simpler things | 19:08 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey everyone | 19:08 |
| heymaster | hey | 19:08 |
| Venemo_N9 | what's up heymaster? | 19:09 |
| heymaster | maybe you want to test my app? | 19:09 |
| Venemo_N9 | maybe. | 19:09 |
| Venemo_N9 | what app is it? :) | 19:09 |
| rashm2k | it's okay I got it! | 19:09 |
| rashm2k | model.modelData.selected = true; | 19:10 |
| rashm2k | sets the value! | 19:10 |
| heymaster | very simple | 19:10 |
| heymaster | rashm2k: good | 19:10 |
| heymaster | it connects to servers and fetch some data | 19:10 |
| heymaster | Venemo_N9: http://cl.ly/image/0b2U1y3R2Q1x | 19:11 |
| heymaster | and http://cl.ly/image/0O2r0p0T2p2m | 19:12 |
| heymaster | uses ssh protocol to connect | 19:12 |
| heymaster | very simple app | 19:12 |
| heymaster | just want to know if it works on real device | 19:12 |
| Venemo_N9 | what does the app do? | 19:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | ah | 19:13 |
| Venemo_N9 | ok, I read it | 19:13 |
| heymaster | but you can test local server | 19:13 |
| heymaster | app really don't steal any passwords | 19:14 |
| Venemo_N9 | I don't have servers to connect to, but I can try with my laptop when I get home | 19:14 |
| heymaster | http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/servermonitor/id401491476?mt=8 | 19:14 |
| heymaster | i have more advanced iphone version of my app | 19:15 |
| heymaster | Venemo_N9: thanks | 19:15 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 19:15 |
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| djszapi_ | faenil: hey there man :) | 19:28 |
| djszapi_ | Do you know a RIM news url for this announcement back then: http://www.phonenews.com/rim-adds-qt-framework-support-to-playbook-2-0-update-19801/ I would like to show to certain people, but an official RIM announcement site would be more official. Like this as well, but for instance from the rim.com site: http://www.berryreview.com/2012/02/07/rim-shows-off-cascades-ui-cookbook-app-confirms-qt-framework/ | 19:29 |
| faenil | djszapi_, read that, no idea sorry | 19:29 |
| djszapi_ | ahh you are also lurking everywhere. :P | 19:29 |
| faenil | :) | 19:29 |
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| javispedro | argh, argh, arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh | 19:42 |
| * javispedro curses whoever decided to omit the "heading" field when designing QML PositionSource | 19:42 | |
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| beford | ragequit | 20:12 |
| faenil | xD | 20:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | i missed javispedro | 20:15 |
| beford | hey ZogG_laptop | 20:17 |
| beford | I built transmission daemon | 20:17 |
| beford | I will probably bundle it with my package and allow to start/stop it from the gui | 20:17 |
| beford | and then control it | 20:17 |
| beford | :P | 20:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: nice | 20:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: :P | 20:23 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: sup | 20:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: so gonna buy metawatch? | 20:45 |
| Venemo_N9 | hey | 20:48 |
| Venemo_N9 | probably not | 20:48 |
| dm8tbr | Venemo_N9: I'll try to get around to reencoding those. let's see when I find the time | 20:50 |
| dm8tbr | ECHAN | 20:50 |
| Venemo_N9 | dm8tbr, ok :) | 20:53 |
| djszapi_ | Venemo_N9: hello, how are you? | 20:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: why not? | 21:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo_N9: what scaries me is 5 days usage only on a single battery | 21:04 |
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| * dm8tbr will wait for the metawatch to also be available in the classic housing | 21:17 | |
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| Venemo_N9 | ZogG_laptop, it's to bulky for my liking and I don't like watches | 21:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | djszapi, I've been better | 21:30 |
| Venemo_N9 | djszapi, you? | 21:30 |
| djszapi_ | Venemo_N9: it is ok. :) | 21:31 |
| Venemo_N9 | :) | 21:32 |
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| jesuschrist_ | guys anyone | 21:44 |
| jesuschrist_ | anyone applied the traffic patch here ? | 21:44 |
| Elleo | jesuschrist_: I did a while back | 21:48 |
| Elleo | mostly out of curiosity | 21:48 |
| Elleo | seemed to work okay from what little I saw of it | 21:48 |
| Elleo | don't really use it though since I don't drive | 21:48 |
| jesuschrist_ | the fact im unable to make it work :\ | 21:48 |
| jesuschrist_ | which one you installed ? | 21:48 |
| Elleo | jesuschrist_: I used the little script someone put together for it | 21:49 |
| jesuschrist_ | what place did you went with maps to test the patch ? | 21:49 |
| Elleo | jesuschrist_: just browsing around the UK | 21:49 |
| jesuschrist_ | could you point me out the script ? | 21:50 |
| jesuschrist_ | im checking atm london | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist_ | i see nothing | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist_ | :( | 21:51 |
| Elleo | jesuschrist_: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1234481&postcount=27 | 21:51 |
| Elleo | once you've applied the patch you have to also enable the traffic stuff in settings | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist_ | oh | 21:52 |
| jesuschrist_ | maybe this is the problem :D | 21:52 |
| Elleo | if you press the menu key you should see a new option that says "Show traffic" | 21:52 |
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| jesuschrist_ | where exactly is it | 21:52 |
| jesuschrist_ | this option | 21:52 |
| jesuschrist_ | in Maps ? | 21:52 |
| Elleo | in drive | 21:52 |
| jesuschrist_ | theres no option in maps ' | 21:53 |
| jesuschrist_ | ? | 21:53 |
| Elleo | also in the settings part there's a "Traffic settings" section | 21:53 |
| Elleo | no, it's only for drive iirc | 21:53 |
| jesuschrist_ | sadly i already checked | 21:53 |
| jesuschrist_ | but im checking again | 21:53 |
| jesuschrist_ | and in my drive app no traffic option | 21:53 |
| jesuschrist_ | nor section | 21:53 |
| Elleo | then it sounds like you didn't apply the patch correctly, try with that script since it'll automate everything for you | 21:54 |
| Elleo | you might want to reinstall nokia-drive-qml first though to undo any changes you might have made | 21:54 |
| jesuschrist_ | under wich tab the option should be | 21:54 |
| jesuschrist_ | "settings" ? and then ? | 21:54 |
| Elleo | "Traffic settings" | 21:54 |
| jesuschrist_ | nothing at all | 21:54 |
| Elleo | you have to scroll down a little | 21:54 |
| jesuschrist_ | ill try the script | 21:55 |
| jesuschrist_ | btw elleo any new version of eyrie coming ? :> | 21:55 |
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| Elleo | jesuschrist_: at some point, the echoprint folks are making some server side changes which should improve things soon | 21:56 |
| Elleo | and there'll be an update to the fingerprinting algorithm around the same time which I'll make a new release for | 21:57 |
| jesuschrist_ | thats good news | 21:57 |
| jesuschrist_ | thanks for your work | 21:57 |
| Elleo | no worries :) | 21:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | Elleo: \o | 21:57 |
| Elleo | hey ZogG_laptop :) | 21:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | :) | 21:58 |
| jesuschrist_ | anyone is using gmail as a mail for exchange account ? | 21:59 |
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| Elleo | Firestarter (Amazon kindle reader) is in apps for meego testing now if anyone fancies doing some QA: http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Network/firestarter/ :) | 22:37 |
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| Elleo | doesn't seem to be appearing in the "Recent" list in the a4m installer, but if you search for it it'll show up | 22:37 |
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| Elleo | that link should be http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Utilities/firestarter/ now (changed category) | 22:53 |
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| pa | hei Elleo! | 23:23 |
| pa | by the way, are you still developing eyrie? | 23:23 |
| Elleo | hey pa :) | 23:23 |
| Elleo | pa: yep, mostly waiting on server-side changes from the echoprint people though | 23:24 |
| pa | such an app is soo needed :) | 23:24 |
| pa | i see.. | 23:24 |
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| pa | can it already save recordings to check them when you get online? | 23:24 |
| Elleo | nope, that's a good feature idea | 23:24 |
| pa | needed, rather :) | 23:24 |
| Elleo | I'll add it to my todo list ;) | 23:24 |
| pa | but echoprint.. is it getting any better? | 23:25 |
| pa | like is it easy to find recent songs in there? | 23:25 |
| Elleo | pa: the database won't be expanding until the new serverside changes are made | 23:26 |
| pa | i see | 23:26 |
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| Elleo | once those are done the echoprint people are going to be adding more songs themselves, but also part of the server modification is to make it possible for other people to submit songs to the database too | 23:26 |
| Elleo | so once that functionality is available I'll write a little MAFW plugin to submit everything in every willing eyrie user's phone's music collection | 23:27 |
| pa | but shouldnt it be almost automatic to add fingerprints? | 23:28 |
| Elleo | what do you mean? | 23:28 |
| pa | well get mp3s of all the music you can find , and process them | 23:29 |
| Elleo | that's what the MAFW plugin would do | 23:29 |
| Elleo | but it's no use to do that until the server actually accepts submissions | 23:29 |
| pa | yes, but the point is, shouldnt it be automatic for them already? | 23:29 |
| Elleo | well presumably at some point they'll run it on the echonest music collection | 23:30 |
| Elleo | which has about 30 million tracks in it | 23:30 |
| Elleo | but I have no idea when they'll get around to it | 23:30 |
| pa | let see.. if they will be too lazy, we'll make our own web app :) | 23:31 |
| Elleo | well we can setup our own server now if we really wanted to | 23:31 |
| Elleo | the echoprint server is all open source | 23:31 |
| Elleo | but I'd rather not have to maintain something like that myself when we can just wait a little while and they'll do it for us | 23:31 |
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