IRC log of #harmattan for Thursday, 2012-08-16

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ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: ping00:33
ZogG_laptopdm8tbr: ping00:34
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ZogG_laptopgolodhrim: hey00:35
ZogG_laptoplook00:35
golodhrimok00:35
ZogG_laptop~sup00:35
infobotYo zogg_laptop, how's it going eh?00:35
ZogG_laptop~flash00:35
infobotfrom memory, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing_N900:35
ZogG_laptop~wtf00:35
ZogG_laptop~wtf wtf00:36
infobotWTF: {what,where,who,why} the fuck00:36
ZogG_laptop~help00:36
ZogG_laptop~help golodhrim00:36
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djszapi_ZogG_laptop: bringing sadtoo colleagues? :P00:37
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: showing the bot :P00:38
ZogG_laptopwho knows what bot is used here and if it's opensource?00:38
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befordsupy00:59
befordsupybot00:59
befordI believe00:59
ZogG_laptopbeford: infobot the chan is #infobot00:59
ZogG_laptop~infobot00:59
infoboti heard infobot is me, http://infobot.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/infobot/ // The original infobot is no more, it has been replaced by the latest version of blootbot, accompanied by a rename back to infobot // apt/ibot/infobot/purl is now an infobot run by TimRiker00:59
befordbut DocScrutinizer should know better00:59
befordah new bot01:00
djszapi_there was also a meegobot back then01:02
ZogG_laptopi think it was banned and kicked :P01:10
ZogG_laptopi's monopoly game here01:10
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DocScrutinizer05ZogG_laptop: pong01:17
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: wanted to know about bot01:18
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: may i query?01:18
DocScrutinizer05query what? whom? why?01:20
ZogG_laptopu01:21
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: asked on infobot chan01:23
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MohammadAGwoo?02:13
MohammadAGmohammad@mohammad-i5laptop:~/sociality-mtf/src$ cat $(find *cpp *h) | wc -l02:13
MohammadAG810702:13
ZogG_laptop:)02:14
MohammadAGNewest version will be awesome for stalkers02:15
MohammadAGallow you to add people to the menu02:15
MohammadAGtapping the icon opens their profile02:15
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: u didn't friend me +(02:15
MohammadAGyou're free to send a request if I didn't :P02:15
ZogG_laptopi did02:16
MohammadAGuh, no?02:16
MohammadAGuh, yes...02:16
MohammadAGI swear I didn't get a notification for that02:16
MohammadAGheh02:17
MohammadAGI got a notification on Waze saying you're now using it :p02:17
MohammadAGthat was fast02:17
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i barely use it02:18
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: u are chobby little bit :P02:18
ZogG_laptopbtw i liked the photo with you making horror face in background02:19
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MohammadAGheh02:21
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DocScrutinizer05cat $(find ...) ?02:52
DocScrutinizer05wow02:52
DocScrutinizer05why not cat *cpp *h ?02:52
ZogG_laptopyou could use cat *.h02:53
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: too mainstream02:53
ZogG_laptop:P02:53
DocScrutinizer05photo of ugly MohammadAG? without black helmet?02:54
DocScrutinizer05URL please!02:54
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: you'll get to over excited and you need to sleep tonight :P02:55
DocScrutinizer05sleep is overrated02:55
DocScrutinizer05I always thought it's a pity I dunno MohammadAG RL look02:56
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: come we visit us in Israel you may see me as well02:56
ZogG_laptopbtw MohammadAG i imaged you different02:57
DocScrutinizer05IL???????????? waaaaaaahhhhhh02:57
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: ?02:57
DocScrutinizer05almost as scary as China, Russia, or Iran02:57
ZogG_laptoplol, it's not02:57
ZogG_laptopand i think China is not scary02:57
DocScrutinizer05China is so scary they even do while movie plots based on the fact02:58
ZogG_laptopRussia would be scary in not center cities though today more tourists so it's ok, but i remember i was not comfy going alone in my neighbour02:58
DocScrutinizer05whole*02:58
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DocScrutinizer05hell I even think Italy is scary02:59
DocScrutinizer05since last idiot cop is same mindset like Berlusconi02:59
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: you are german you are scary02:59
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: i have awesome joke people don't get :(03:00
ZogG_laptop—nationality? —russian. —occupation? — no, no, just visiting.03:00
DocScrutinizer05on Vega we got lots of those jokes you earthlings don't get03:00
sp3000yeah, like Vegan jokes03:01
DocScrutinizer05one of them: what's a special kind of aliens called, they only eat life forms that can't walk? Vegans03:02
DocScrutinizer05another one: on Earth they think *we* are the aliens03:03
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DocScrutinizer05Bowie always choked of laughing about the latter03:04
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: are you vegan?03:07
ZogG_laptopi don't think it's right but i don't care and respect someone not eating meat, but i hate when they force it on you or tell something like "you just not smart enuf yet to understand"03:08
DocScrutinizer51no, I eat everything, even earthlings03:08
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DocScrutinizer51the 4-leged ones with horns are very tasty03:09
mgrover_anybody willing to package something for me :P03:10
ZogG_laptopthe best meat for me is a pig and lamb03:11
ZogG_laptopmgrover_: depend03:14
ZogG_laptops/depend/depends/03:14
infobotZogG_laptop meant: mgrover_: depends03:14
mgrover_on?03:14
mgrover_the package itself nothing03:14
ZogG_laptopmgrover_: if i can and what to package?03:15
mgrover_just an easy deb source03:15
mgrover_with scratchbox03:15
ZogG_laptopmgrover_: why not OBS03:15
mgrover_no idea how03:15
ZogG_laptopsame as sb03:15
ZogG_laptopwhat is it? your app?03:15
mgrover_hmm may work better than sb since it refuses to install on my linux machine03:15
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mgrover_and nah someone elses scripts but modified for open kernel03:16
ZogG_laptopdo u have proper dsc and tar.gz?03:16
mgrover_whats dsc?03:17
ZogG_laptophttp://wiki.debian.org/dsc03:17
ZogG_laptop~dsc03:17
infobothmm... dsc is the file suffix for a Debian Source Code (metadata) file.  It's usually downloaded with "apt-get source".  Use "dpkg-source -x foo.dsc" to extract the corresponding source tarball and patch (.tar.gz and .diff.gz).03:17
mgrover_ah i see no i dont03:18
mgrover_i have the source code in a rar atm03:18
mgrover_i was told to run this command to package it03:18
mgrover_dpkg-buildpackage -sa -d -rfakeroot03:18
ZogG_laptoplol03:18
mgrover_am too lazy to boot in ubuntu and compress it into a tarball03:19
ZogG_laptop    dpkg-buildpackage -sa -S -uc -us03:19
ZogG_laptopi think03:20
ZogG_laptopto make dsc and tar.gz03:20
ZogG_laptopand than upload them to OS03:20
mgrover_ah i see03:20
ZogG_laptopbut you need proper debian dir with all needed things and afaik makefile03:20
ZogG_laptopbut i'm really noob at this03:21
mgrover_makes too of us lol03:21
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: may know03:21
mgrover_*two03:21
ZogG_laptopmgrover_: makes is like in $make && make install :P03:21
DocScrutinizer51meeeeeeeeeeee?03:21
mgrover_yeah its all there03:21
mgrover_here check it out03:21
ZogG_laptopoh i see03:22
mgrover_http://dl.dropbox.com/u/96452522/easydeb.rar03:22
mgrover_someone did it for me yesturday03:22
mgrover_turns out i left a quotation mark like an idiot lol03:22
ZogG_laptoplol03:27
mgrover_so how can i access OBS?03:28
ZogG_laptopit wouldnt work for me as i need other debian/rules - full one. it fails for me03:29
mgrover_ah i see03:30
mgrover_ill probably boot into ubuntu later and sort it out03:30
ZogG_laptoprZr: can though03:30
mgrover_cant wait ill i get a new computer ill end up using a virtual machine for ubuntu03:32
ZogG_laptopmgrover_: why don't delete windows :P03:32
mgrover_I LIKE GAMES!!!!! :P03:32
ZogG_laptopbuy ps303:32
mgrover_nah there terrible03:33
mgrover_ive got an xox03:33
mgrover_xbox03:33
ZogG_laptopand wait for valve to port stuff03:33
mgrover_but theres no starcraft II03:33
ZogG_laptopsc2 works fine under wine on linux03:33
mgrover_pc gaming is what ive always prefered, everytime i play a console game i start complaining about the lack of AA03:33
mgrover_does it03:33
mgrover_hmmm03:33
ZogG_laptopmgrover_: i played a little bit one of the first version of sc2 and it worked fine03:34
mgrover_i may attempt it03:35
mgrover_nothing better to do with my time at the moment03:35
ZogG_laptopmgrover_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2088203:35
ZogG_laptopother versions has platinum bronze and silver P check which one you bought(or downloaded :P )03:36
mgrover_ill have to redownload it now lol03:36
mgrover_damn the digital download seemed so much easier03:36
ZogG_laptopnot sure if multiplayer works according to wiki03:38
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ZogG_laptopand too late03:39
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mgrover_and  back to linux03:46
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mgrover_finally the wireless fixed04:07
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mgrover_ah its finally in an dsc04:09
mgrover_ZogG_laptop you still there?04:10
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tom____I am having an odd problem with the n9 video player.  On odd occasions, when the scene changes, the video freezes - usually just on a black frame, but the sound continues.  When I try to restart the video, it will start from the beginning rather than the place where it froze.  Has anyone else noticed this?11:04
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patom____, well many experiences problems of many kinds withthe n9 video player11:24
valdur55can  i use irc with native messaging system?11:25
djszapi_valdur55: nope11:26
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djszapi_tom____: any errors on the command line?11:26
djszapi_also, does it happen only with one video (type) etc?11:26
djszapi_you would need to provide way more information11:26
valdur55but does it use purple ?11:27
djszapi_to get help, and for that you need to investigate way more to localize the issue11:27
djszapi_valdur55: ofc not11:27
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valdur55ok. but msn?11:28
Oni^what is icons size in n9 32x32?11:28
djszapi_Oni^: icon size for what?11:28
pawhat icons? desktop?11:28
pa80x8011:28
djszapi_Oni^: it cannot be answered until you are more specific.11:29
djszapi_valdur55: msn??11:29
valdur55windows live messenger11:30
Oni^djszapi_: Thanks I try 80x8011:30
djszapi_I do not honestly know what you are talking about or asking.11:30
djszapi_Oni^: but for *what*?11:30
valdur55ok11:30
djszapi_msn is not using purple11:31
djszapi_messenger does not use msn11:31
djszapi_messenger does not use purple11:31
Oni^I'm scaling icon for use in .desktop file11:31
djszapi_so the homescreen icon, finally...11:31
djszapi_well, you do not really need to remember for the data11:32
Oni^that 80x80 sounds right11:32
djszapi_you can always take a look at the other desktop files.11:32
djszapi_yes, it is right.11:32
djszapi_although, not strictly necessary.11:32
djszapi_moreover, you should really use javispedro's icon generator.11:32
pagood tip, thanks :)11:33
pais it only online?11:33
djszapi_no, it is also onrectangle :)11:34
padjszapi, as you would answer, sup :D11:34
panow i try it!11:35
pai realized my icons suck11:35
pathey have no button behind11:35
pashit11:37
paonly svg11:37
paaaalright11:37
djszapi_May I ask you to release the enter button? :P11:39
djszapi_(for a while :)11:40
pasorry :)11:40
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panot bad, even if not all the options seem working11:45
Oni^does /home/user/.icons work whitout any modifications11:47
pano idea11:48
paby the way, is there any good and free console emulator (say snes, f .ex) for N9 ?11:49
Oni^mmh with no right path to image desktop default image turns from red to green11:55
paOni^, you wanted to put your image into home/user? why dont you just put in the standard location?11:56
leinirpa: depends on your definition of "good", but free, i'm pretty sure there's a couple floating about :)11:56
pahmm good = that works well? :) i dont know if cortexA8 1ghz is enough for snes, but it should be i guess.. it was running smooth on P2 300s..11:57
leinirhttp://nokiagadgets.com/2011/09/12/too-many-emulators-to-fit-here-coming-to-your-n9-and-n950/11:57
leinirhttp://my-meego.com/software/category.php?name=Emulation&fldAuto=711:57
pathanks!11:57
leiniri'm afraid i've no idea about their quality, but emumaster /does/ have some pretty good feedback :)11:57
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Oni^Its more easily modify with user rights11:58
paleinir,  thanks :)11:58
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Oni^is there easy way to get java jre to N912:09
pai dont think so, but i was checking once, and iirc there is a way12:10
dm8tbrdidn't oracle publish one for ARMv7?12:10
djszapi_well, there should be jre for arm already (android)12:11
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dm8tbrandroid is not exactly 'jre' based to my understanding12:11
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paby the way, when is the android to meego VM going to be published (the non myriad one)12:11
djszapi_http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/embedded/overview/getstarted/index.html?origref=http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/embedded-jsp-135769.html12:12
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radiofreehey djszapi_, you pinged me the other day (at 5am in the morning ;)), anything urgent?12:13
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djszapi_radiofree: nope, just wanted to get a feedback about my English writing12:13
djszapi_radiofree: http://lpapp.blogspot.ie/2012/08/support-2012-kde-randa-meetings_13.html12:13
djszapi_but I published anyway. :-)12:13
radiofreeheh, ok12:13
djszapi_Oni^: the link was for you above ^12:14
djszapi_there are various arm versions, and even MIPS in fact.12:14
hiemanshudjszapi_: android doesn't have a jre for its browsers12:17
Oni^thanks I read it through12:18
hiemanshuOni^: I think you can use it with Fennec12:18
djszapi_hiemanshu: I was not talking about the browsers...12:19
hiemanshudjszapi_: neither for the backend parts, its dalvik12:19
djszapi_rZr: I cannot merge your review requests for some reasons.12:20
djszapi_hiemanshu: it does not mean you cannot install the arm jre version...12:20
hiemanshudjszapi_: and do what with it?12:20
djszapi_run java apps?12:21
hiemanshuit already runs a modified version of java called dalvik, and no you cannot really do it that easily12:21
djszapi_who said easily?12:21
djszapi_why do you keep misinterpreting me?12:22
hiemanshubecause you aren't clear enough?12:22
djszapi_I am afraid, I cannot explain more it is installable other than "It can be installed"12:23
djszapi_clear or not.12:23
djszapi_rZr: let me know how I can merge your changes, if you wish to have them merged.12:24
djszapi_Oni^: you need to package that yourself and test. Also, I would recommend Qt Jambi for you.12:32
djszapi_if you go down that way..12:32
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Oni^NoDisplay=true in .desktop file doesn't seem work or am I missing something12:39
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djszapi_Oni^: grep /usr/share/applications/*12:42
djszapi_most likely not supported.12:42
djszapi_Hmm, it should be...12:43
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Oni^then I do mv .deskop .disable12:46
Oni^like that devmode thing does12:47
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djszapi_SpeedEvil: not possible to use the same modem abroad with a different sim card from the same provider. That sucks.13:16
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aquariusCan I put a number "badge" on a ToolIcon?14:06
djszapi_use z?14:06
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djszapi_radiofree: now ping again, same topic. ;-)15:02
ZogG_laptopjonni: sup15:15
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heymaster-laptopaegis_crypto_encrypt .. The resource token to encrypt with. The calling process must possess this token. .. That is token might be ?16:54
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heymaster-laptophttp://pastebin.com/U29Eier516:55
heymaster-laptopI don't get error, but get empty text16:55
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heymaster-laptopfound the problem, i needed to supply token17:04
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djszapi_any native English speaker around?17:43
sledgesnay, but got many around me :)17:46
sledgesdjszapi_, ^17:46
djszapi_sledges: I would need to get a review about my English writing.17:47
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: it's terrible17:47
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ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: :P17:47
djszapi_ZogG_lap1op: what did you  break today? :)17:47
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: nothing left to break17:48
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: i want my rpi !17:48
djszapi_ZogG_lap1op: do I look like an rpi bank? :)17:49
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: did i say "give me..." ?17:49
ZogG_lap1opi said i __want__17:49
djszapi_then do not tell me. :P17:49
ZogG_lap1opwant17:49
djszapi_Also, I do not know what rpi is anyway17:50
djszapi_as for me, it is non-existent, it is vaporware. :D17:50
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: i want to tell you whatever i want17:50
ZogG_lap1opdamn it doesn't make bold by words17:50
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: didn't u get one already?17:51
djszapi_are you happy you hijacked my question, so others might miss it? :P17:52
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: no one actually paid attention17:53
djszapi_sledges: so can your around check out? :)17:53
sledgesthey're busy working, i thought you'd just ask how to say a sentence you have doubts about17:53
sledgesI'm sure there are more English natives in here17:53
djszapi_hmm, nope, it is about the PlayBook Developer Device program.17:54
ZogG_lap1opthey are at work now17:55
ZogG_lap1opso they are busy17:55
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ZogG_lap1op~ping localhost17:55
infobotpong localhost17:55
ZogG_lap1oplol17:55
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ZogG_lap1opGeneralAntilles: sup17:57
GeneralAntillesMorning17:57
ZogG_lap1opmorning \o17:58
ZogG_lap1opcan someone force my kernel to compile faster :P17:58
e-yes-j 2 ?17:58
djszapi_e-yes: that can be slower depending on his processor...17:59
ZogG_lap1ope-yes: i just checked to find out i didn't set it17:59
djszapi_CPU cores*17:59
ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: it's N95017:59
ZogG_lap1ope-yes: how are you mate?18:00
djszapi_lol you compile your kernel on the phone?18:00
ZogG_lap1opyes18:00
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djszapi_ZogG_lap1op: you ask a non yes/no question, and you reply with "yes" yourself? :P18:05
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ZogG_lap1opdjszapi_: i know u know that no-ne likes u and doesn't pay attention, but i actually answered you, so don't be so hard on yourself :P18:07
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djszapi_ZogG_laptop: so I know or you know? :P18:30
ZogG_laptopeveryone knows18:31
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padjszapi_, what about something like this? http://www.buybits.com/Product/14111/Pro-Waterproof-Cycle-Bike-Mount-For-Nokia-Lumia-800-sku-14111.aspx18:51
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djszapi_pa: how many times do I still need to tell I dislike the smartphone mounters? :P19:00
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befordsup19:07
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befordreal man compiles on device. cross compiling is for the weak19:10
djszapi_I thought ZogG_laptop is a woman :P19:11
djszapi_(just kidding)19:12
djszapi_well, anyway, I like compiling on the device, but not N95019:12
djszapi_for instance, it is ok to compile something small on pandaboard with ready-made ubuntu19:13
befordheh19:16
beforddjszapi_: do you have a panda board?19:16
djszapi_used to have19:17
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pai compile python on device :)19:21
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: now is just a pandaboard i used to now lalalala19:25
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: sup23:12
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padoes anybody know whether this is open source? http://betalabs.nokia.com/trials/nokia-step-counter23:40
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javispedromost of the stuff on betalabs isn't :P23:43
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