IRC log of #harmattan for Wednesday, 2012-08-15

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MohammadAGpa, what's the app?00:16
sledgeswhat is the most effortless way to display a modal Yes/No dialogue ? (preferably without involving extra QMLs as well)00:23
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MohammadAGsledges, what UI framework are you using?00:27
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piggzsledges: QMl Sheet?00:30
sledgesMohammadAG, Qt4 Quick00:31
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paMohammadAG, it's a sort of synchronizer for gmail contacts. do u use gmail to host your phone contacts?00:41
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MohammadAGpa, tbh I use iCloud00:47
MohammadAG(which is just CardDAV)00:47
sledgesthanks but after more googling it looks like I'll use the simple MDialog, piggz & MohammadAG00:47
MohammadAGsledges, MDialog is MTF00:47
MohammadAGand if you're using MTF, use MMessageBox, it's easier00:48
paMohammadAG, can u use it on N9?00:48
pathere was sniper_swe who was interested00:48
MohammadAGpa, with syncevolution00:48
paah right00:48
MohammadAGthe N9 doesn't support CardDAV00:48
pai was using syncevoluton too00:48
MohammadAGwhich is kinda dumb tbh00:48
sledgesrry, I am still fresh with the terminology :)00:48
pabut it didnt support multiple accounts00:48
paso i started my own app00:48
MohammadAGMTF is MeeGoTouchFramework00:49
MohammadAGit's C++/Qt, not QML00:49
MohammadAGhere's an example on MMessageBox
sledgesyes, thank you MohammadAG , I am still fresh with terminology, so many onion layers above Qt (Quick, C/C+, ..., MTF, ... :)00:50
infobotsledges meant: yes, thank you MohammadAG , I am still fresh with terminology, so many onion layers above Qt (Quick, C/C++, ..., MTF, ... :)00:50
javispedroQt's translation stuff seems totally broken01:03
javispedroe.g. qmake totally not caring about .qm files, not being able to regenerate them01:03
javispedrono standard paths for qm files, no idea how to use them from shlibs, ...01:04
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javispedrogettext ftw.01:04
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mgrover_anybody around with scratch box willing to make a package for me?01:37
mgrover_for the n901:37
sledgesMohammadAG, apparently MMessageBox still does not work after I prepended the .cpp file with #include <MMessageBox> - compile error: MMessabeGox was not declared in this scope01:38
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sledgessorry mgrover_ , but I am a die-hard OBS user :) Maybe you should be come one, too? :)01:39
mgrover_i just needed one thing doing tbh and it refuses to setup on my ubuntu system thanks to the rootstrap refusing to download01:40
befordurl mgrover_01:40
befordwhat do you want to build01:40
mgrover_dpkg-buildpackage -sa -d -rfakeroot01:41
befordwill that hack my sbox and destroy my vm?01:41
mgrover_no check it01:41
mgrover_just easy deb01:41
befordheh ok01:41
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sledgesoh J.H.C.!01:42
infobotsledges meant: :)01:42
sledgesthanks infobot01:42
jesuschrist_hey infobot01:43
jesuschrist_rZr : installed ppp01:43
jesuschrist_sledges : B=====<01:45
infobotjesuschrist_ meant: sledges : B=====D01:46
mgrover_thank you :)01:48
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ZogG_laptopbeford: i thought i was V.I.P to test :P02:03
befordthat's some other package02:03
befordI dont even know what it is02:03
befordeasy deb chroot for harmattan I believe02:04
ZogG_laptopand down.php is :P02:04
pawhere is sniper_swe? :p02:04
befordoh yea but it should not download anything there is no package there02:05
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heymasterhow to use aegis-manifest tool ?02:42
heymasteraegis-manifest: readelf executable not found.02:43
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pano idea.. what do you want to use it for?02:53
heymasterpa: to generate manifest automatically02:54
heymasteraegis-manifest: Token definitions path '/usr/share/aegis-manifest-dev/api' not accessible.02:54
payou mean on pc?02:54
pawhy do you want to generate it automatically?02:54
pa(yes i know it is not an answer to ur question)02:54
heymasterbecause app not starting02:55
pacoz of credentials?02:57
heymasteri don't know. i'm using aegis-crypto.h file02:59
panot even sure what it is :)02:59
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paanyway, if you want to check what credentials your app gets when it gets started, you can put in the beginning of your main() something like system("accli -I")02:59
paand then when it starts, it prints the credentials it gets03:00
heymasterpa: thanks i will try03:00
paofc u have to run from terminal03:00
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heymasterpa: i'm running on device emulator and i think system("accli -I") listing all possible permissions :/03:03
paright you had that problem03:04
paif u want i can try it for you03:04
paall the possible permissions = how many?03:04
heymasteri'm now i will try to run on rds03:05
heymasterpa: that command just prints?03:08
heymasteri need to know why my app not starting03:08
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pathat commands just prints03:10
ZogG_laptopheymaster: Aug 15 03:11:42 (2012) applauncherd[14802]: Booster: Loading invoked application failed: '/opt/ServerMonitor/bin/ServerMonitor: cannot dynamically load executable'03:10
heymasterZogG_laptop: so what to do ?03:11
ZogG_laptopi'm here for few mins for cig and than going to sleep03:12
ZogG_laptopheymaster: can u paste exec line from .descktop file?03:13
heymasterZogG_laptop: where to find this file ?03:14
heymasterZogG_laptop: thanks. go to sleep. i will work on other things to fix app03:16
ZogG_laptopin project folder i think03:16
ZogG_laptopi'm smoking cig it's ok03:16
heymasterZogG_laptop: i don't see such file03:16
heymasterServerMonitor.desktop ?03:17
ZogG_laptoppa: fixed it :P03:19
ZogG_laptopit runs from icon :P03:19
ZogG_laptopchange d to e03:19
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ZogG_laptopheymaster: Exec=/usr/bin/invoker --type=e -s /opt/ServerMonitor/bin/ServerMonitor03:20
heymasterZogG_laptop: ok03:20
ZogG_laptopshould work03:20
ZogG_laptopin ServerMonitor_harmattan.desktop file03:20
heymasterZogG_laptop: Exec=/usr/bin/invoker --type=d -s /opt/ServerMonitor/bin/ServerMonitor03:21
ZogG_laptopheymaster: chage type=d to type=e03:21
heymasteraah, ok03:21
heymasterZogG_laptop: thanks :)03:21
ZogG_laptopno problem03:22
heymasternight :)03:22
paZogG_laptop, you meant heymaster, or..? :)03:23
paheymaster, btw, it seems that if you add -c to the invoker, it should have the same effect of accli -I03:26
pameaning printing the credentials03:26
pai go too03:26
heymasterpa: good night03:26
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heymasterif i change project name i need to also change files like ServerMonitor.desktop ?10:28
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, no10:29
Sfiet_Konstantinbut your desktop file should point to the correct path of your app10:29
Sfiet_Konstantinedit it10:29
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: where ?10:30
Sfiet_Konstantinexplain me what you are doing please10:31
Sfiet_Konstantinyou want to change the project name of an harmattan project ?10:31
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: i changed to But i want to find where specifies ServerMonitor_harmattan.desktop file. Maybe i need to change name of this file too10:33
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: how qtcreator file know about ServerMonitor.desktop ?10:34
heymasterdon't see if this file is anywhere referenced10:34
heymasterafter project change i don't see my app icon .. only icon filled with green10:35
heymasterproject name change*10:36
Sfiet_Konstantinhum ...10:40
Sfiet_Konstantinwell, at least the desktop file is deployed10:40
Sfiet_Konstantincheck if the icon file is deployed10:41
heymasterhow ?10:41
Sfiet_Konstantingo to project tab and click on the deploy step10:41
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can see if the icon is listed10:41
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can also browse using SSH in the phone10:42
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heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: << screenshot10:45
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Sfiet_Konstantinok, now open the desktop file10:46
Sfiet_Konstantinand check if the icon points to the correct path10:46
ZogG_laptopheymaster: :P10:48
heymasterIcon=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/80x80/apps/ServerMonitor80.png yes, correct10:50
Sfiet_Konstantinuninstalling reinstalling ?10:51
heymasterok will try10:52
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heymasterit's good because i had backup :)11:02
heymasterget warning that project starts with uppercase latter, won't have any problems ?11:03
Sfiet_Konstantinwell you should set it to lowercase11:03
Sfiet_Konstantinit is more linux11:03
Sfiet_Konstantinbut no problem11:03
Sfiet_Konstantinonly a convention problem11:04
heymasterso how correctly rename ?11:04
Sfiet_Konstantinin the pro file11:06
Sfiet_Konstantinchange the TARGET=MyName11:06
Sfiet_Konstantinand you should also edit the desktop file (to set to lowercase)11:06
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: ServerMonitor.desktop or ServerMonitor_harmattan.desktop ?11:07
Sfiet_Konstantinstrange why are there two desktop files11:08
Sfiet_Konstantinyou know what11:08
Sfiet_Konstantincheck what is installed11:08
Sfiet_Konstantin(inside the deployment tab)11:08
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: and what to change in file ?11:13
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Sfiet_KonstantinExec=/usr/bin/invoker --type=e -s /opt/ServerMonitor/bin/servermonitor11:14
Sfiet_Konstantinlowercase your bin11:14
ZogG_laptopheymaster: it's case sensetive11:15
ZogG_laptopwhy would you change things btw11:15
heymasteri get warning11:16
Sfiet_Konstantinthere is a small warinig11:16
Sfiet_Konstantinqt creator do not like bin names with uppercase11:16
Sfiet_KonstantinI don't know why11:16
Sfiet_KonstantinMyApp is bad but myapp is nice11:16
ZogG_laptopWhY thE HeLL QtCrEAtOR doEs THaT ?11:17
Sfiet_KonstantinI dUnNo :D11:18
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heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: i get green icon and app not lauching11:28
Sfiet_Konstantingimme the deployment.pri file11:29
heymasterwhere to find?11:29
Sfiet_Konstantinedit the two desktop files11:29
Sfiet_Konstantinlook in the project11:29
Sfiet_Konstantinthere should be a "deployment" folder11:29
Sfiet_Konstantindeployment.pri should be inside11:29
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: i fixed. app now starting. but icon still green. don't see deployment folder11:35
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Sfiet_Konstantinin the project tree ?11:35
* jreznik ended in endless boot-reboot cycle :)11:36
Sfiet_Konstantinjreznik: what did you done ?11:36
Sfiet_Konstantinready to reflash ?11:36
jreznikready to reflash11:36
jreznikplaying with n9quicktweak... there's note it leads to endless rebooting together with homescreen settings, but I don't have one, properly incepted... don't know what happened11:37
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: << screenshot11:38
heymasterSfiet_Konstantin: ahh i see11:40
heymasteri need to change icon name to lowercase11:40
Sfiet_Konstantini see11:41
Sfiet_Konstantinthe deployment is quite unclear11:41
Sfiet_Konstantinit uses the project file for the icons11:41
Sfiet_Konstantinand it also usse the _harmattan desktop file11:41
Sfiet_Konstantinit is in the subfolder qmlapplicationviewer11:42
heymasterahh, ok :)11:42
Sfiet_Konstantinheymaster what are you developing ?11:45
heymasterapp for contest :)11:45
heymastervery tiny11:45
heymasterto monitor server11:46
heymastertrying to win n911:46
heymastervery hard to develop on emulator ;11:47
Sfiet_Konstantinyou are dev on emulator ?11:49
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's really not nice :(11:49
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat is a monitor server ?11:50
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat about trying to develop on simulator11:50
Sfiet_Konstantinand then, when it is nearly finished, do the deployment on emulator ?11:50
Sfiet_Konstantinif the app is Qt / QML there should be no problem11:50
heymasteri'm using qt simulator :)11:51
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Sfiet_Konstantinok :)11:51
heymastereverything is ok :)11:51
Sfiet_Konstantinactually, what I want to win would be the N95011:52
heymastercool :)11:54
heymasteryou will ;)11:54
Sfiet_Konstantinno i'm not sure at all11:55
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padoes anyone here know whats the difference of synctarget tracker and addressbook?11:58
tommathere is some contest where you can win N9?11:58
pacheck tmo11:59
pawhat app will u participate with? :)11:59
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Sfiet_Konstantinone N9 and two N950 !12:00
Elleo <-- WebGL inside QtWebKit :)12:01
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pawicked :)12:02
pabut kinda slow too12:02
paand that looks like a qt app?12:02
Elleoit is12:02
Elleoit's just the qt webkit test browser at the moment12:02
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Elleowhich can either use the system version of libqtwebkit or my version12:02
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pain general im not sure this whole html5 is a good idea for mobile12:03
Elleomy next step will be integrating it into tizmee12:03
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pajust killing performance in the name of what.. portability?12:03
Sfiet_Konstantina bit like Java12:04
Elleowebgl doesn't *have* to have bad performance12:04
Sfiet_Konstantinit is nice, but is not really suited to everything12:04
pai mean, encouraging development in javascript is kinda insane12:04
Sfiet_Konstantinlike games ...12:04
ZogG_laptoppa: html5 is nie as aditional option but not primary12:05
heymasterso he ported webgl?12:09
heymasterit's big work12:10
pahe's porting a qt webkit browser12:12
Lava_Croftdjszapi: Sure, when I have some time12:12
Elleopa: no12:13
Elleopa: it's libqtwebkit that's the focus12:13
Elleothat qt webkit browser is just a test platform12:13
paah okay! cool12:13
Elleoyou can drop this in as a replacement in any app that uses libqtwebkit12:13
pawhat did you change, by the way? (in ur version)12:13
Elleoand its not just about webgl, I'm hoping to be able to use some hardware acceleration to make some CSS effects faster12:13
ZogG_laptoppa: version number :P12:13
ZogG_laptopElleo: sup12:14
Elleopa: it's just qtwebkit 2.2 compiled with webgl support12:14
paah okay12:14
Elleohey ZogG_laptop12:14
Elleowhich isn't massively trivial, but it's no where near as complex as writing a whole new webgl implementation12:15
ZogG_laptopchem|st: so anything new about codecs?12:17
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Lava_Croftdjszapi: maybe later today, if not, tomorrow!12:21
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pais there a way to hide the keyboard on meego-terminal?13:00
valdur55swipe keyboard to downside13:00
valdur55 |13:01
valdur55 V13:01
Lava_Croftpa: can also try to use fingerterm13:01
valdur55or. mtermite13:01
Lava_Croftmtermite is in ovi right?13:01
Lava_Croft is for fingerterm13:01
valdur55and fingerterm is in ovi13:02
Lava_Croftoh, its in ovi too it seems13:02
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valdur55but older :P13:02
Lava_Croftfingerterm is nice for irssi over ssh13:02
paanother thing: anybody using optparse with python?13:02
pait formats lines to 80 colums, and with the terminal it looks like shit13:02
Lava_Croftseems the src is out too, nice13:02
pakeyboard swiping on meego-terminal is terrible13:03
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valdur55Mtermite supports transparent keys13:06
Lava_Croftpa: use Mesinput13:07
pawell the problem is that the keyboard on the terminal doesnt swipe to change language or to change tooblars13:16
paor.. it does13:16
pabut once every 10 times13:17
paespecially if the swype keyboard is set13:17
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valdur55yea. this is quite annoying.13:17
valdur55But usual keyboard is OK.13:17
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heymaster-laptop << how to make similar gradient for list item in qml?15:17
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Sfiet_Konstantinimpossible :D15:17
Sfiet_Konstantinexcept if you use buttons15:18
heymaster-laptopi can use buttons for list items ? or it's joke?15:18
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can15:20
Sfiet_Konstantinit is not recommended15:20
Sfiet_Konstantinbut it is the only component i know that have this gradient15:20
heymaster-laptopactually i don't have ListView15:20
heymaster-laptopjust item's15:20
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat do you want to do ?15:21
heymaster-laptop << i want to make this screen pretty :)15:23
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can use a list view15:24
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Sfiet_Konstantin+ the delegates in
leinira listview or a repeater15:24
heymaster-laptop << and will look like this ?15:25
leinirThose you can make really easily yourself, just a rectangle with two text items anchored inside it :)15:26
heymaster-laptopbut won't make pretty :)15:27
heymaster-laptopi now have this but more uglier :)15:28
Sfiet_Konstantintake inspiration from that15:29
leinirwell, this is what i've got one that looks like, that's just done using the method i described there - :)15:30
heymaster-laptopleinir: color code of smaller text ?15:32
heymaster-laptopok. thanks15:33
leinir <-- that's my delegate :)15:36
leinir(you can mostly ignore the mousearea ;) )15:36
heymaster-laptopleinir: thanks15:37
heymaster-laptopwill check15:37
leiniryou're welcome :) as you can see, it uses some hardcoded values, as the harmattan components don't really have anything like a theming system15:38
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Arkenoiwtf are cyan-rectangles-sgx_*.txt files?16:25
Sfiet_Konstantinsome cache stuff i think16:25
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can remove them16:25
Arkenoisure, they just appear again and again16:26
Sfiet_Konstantinremove them again and again16:26
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fluxthey are actually debug information that remained when some versions were rolled back.16:30
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Elleoit looks like I might be able to get amazon's cloud reader working using my new version of qtwebkit :)16:50
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SpeedEvil'that one looks a bit like an elephant'16:53
SpeedEvilsome things are better done by humans.16:53
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jreznikElleo: nice, I was thinking about own custom qtwebkit build to make it possible18:29
Elleojreznik: yeah, it's something I'd been playing with in the past trying to get the cloud reader working but which I'd given up on18:30
ElleoI actually made this new build for webgl support18:30
Elleobut decided to give it a try with the cloud reader and found it works :)18:30
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befordovi store is down or its just me19:49
pau mean in general or on the phone?19:51
pathe website is up19:51
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befordon the phone yea19:55
befordping ZogG_laptop19:56
infobotYo zogg_laptop, how's it going eh?19:59
ZogG_laptopinfobot: bad bot, do not lowercase my name!19:59
infobotBad bot, do not lowercase my name!, bad! No cookie for you!19:59
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ZogG_laptopbeford: pong20:53
ZogG_laptopmacmaN: ping20:54
befordi'm trying to uload a new deb20:56
befordhold on20:56
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macmaNwhat up ZogG_laptop21:10
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pabloody e-academy21:31
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jonniZogG_laptop: I havent tested vpn9c, I've compiled vpnc for myself and it works just fine.22:01
jonniusually error messages tell whats wrong, it really isnt rocket science22:03
jonnimost of those errors are because they are trying to run commands from unknown origin22:04
jonniI installed my vpnc as com.maemo.maemo/ovi-origin22:05
ZogG_laptopjonni: it's just about gui, you said you want to make it more harmattan22:05
jonniah yes, my vpnc package has workign manifest file, I havent checked what vpn9c has22:06
ZogG_laptopjonni: may i query?22:07
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jonniohwell maybe I'll download vpn9c to see why people are having troubles in it :)22:12
jonni1st going to install it as unknown origin, and then as
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ZogG_laptopinstall it as :P22:20
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jonniheh, I can add any origin, so not a problem. But for that vpn9c, people just don't seem to see the difference between exec and aegis-exec :)22:26
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jonnicommented on tmo22:30
djszapi_jonni: still work for Nokia?22:31
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jonnidjszapi_: yes, still work for Nokia for one month longer. And then new challenges ahead.22:35
pagiven the situation, its probably better, right?22:35
djszapi_jonni: why do you think MS will be better? :P22:36
pajeez everything but M$ :p22:37
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jonniheh, dont know, I wish them all the best, C# just wasnt for me since I've been playing in Linux world for the last 18 years.22:41
djszapi_C# is present in the Linux world22:42
djszapi_at least I had been using that 4-5 years ago.22:42
djszapi_jonni: good luck at your new place anyway.22:44
jonnioh yes, you can code .net on Linux too, I just havent runned into any project that I've needed that uses it.22:44
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ZogG_laptopjonni: mono?22:57
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djszapi_ZogG_laptop: no, stereo22:58
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: you are not funny22:58
ZogG_laptopyou hurt me22:59
* ZogG_laptop criess22:59
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pajonni, anyway, as long as you own an N9 still.. no interest in porting snx to N9? : )23:02
pathe author seems not to love harmattan23:03
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pashit i had to reinstall msvc2008, and now it cant find includes from winsdk anymore23:04
pahow i love microsoft..23:04
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djszapi_ZogG_laptop: then I won :P23:06
djszapi_pa: sounds like a pebkac23:06
djszapi_also, why on earth would you install msvc2008???23:06
* ZogG_laptop rapes djszapi_ and runs away23:07
pacoz i have some project made in msvc2008 that do not upgrade to 201023:07
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: remember you got N9 and was angry and i wanted to crack joke?23:07
jonnipa: snx plugins usually require java, so I'll pass porting that to N9 :)23:07
pahm.. does it?23:08
pajonni, this one i mean23:08
djszapi_ZogG_laptop: pardon?23:08
djszapi_pa: even 2010 is a joke23:08
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: the day you had internet problems23:09
pahe says it23:09
djszapi_ZogG_laptop: I did not get an N9.23:09
pa's all bahs23:09
djszapi_on that day23:09
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: ianyway as you just N9, i wanted to ask you if you need link to inception :P23:09
jonnipa: ah, you mean nx client and not  check point ssl network extender (which is also called snx)23:10
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: the N9 with and problem with irish service and you said you wondered if it is locked23:10
djszapi_ZogG_laptop: inception is not a net provider as far as I know. ;>23:10
pai miss one so much :)23:10
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: i just like ironic jokes :P as i heard you got N9 from Nokia so i had to make this joke "have you install inception already?"23:11
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: it's like Mike Scott said jokes :P23:11
djszapi_no, inception is not allowed. :P23:11
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MohammadAGanyone worked with contacts on Harmattan?23:51
MohammadAGmainly, fetching contact details on incoming call?23:51
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: what are you planing?23:53
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i know there is hack to make pictures bigger but i don't think it's related23:53
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, quick hack to display fullscreen pic on "Swipe to Answer" screen23:54
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: there is hack like that already i think23:54
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i see you talking about something different :P23:55
ZogG_laptopi saw the thread now23:56

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