IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2012-08-14

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ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: wanna host it too :P00:00
djszapi_I wish the next billion code was leaked instead...00:02
ZogG_laptopnext billion code is ?00:03
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rZrwill this void the "warranty" ?00:03
CreamyG31337leaked + deleted 2 days in a row00:14
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rZrno idea00:18
rZrif it is official , then expect to see wp7 once rebooted :)00:19
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CreamyG31337it's not public, but it's official. that's a problem. people keep reporting the posts at tmo.00:26
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befordi dont have a n950 yet but still nice00:29
ZogG_laptoprZr: do not post link online yet00:29
rZri will not00:30
rZrtrust me00:30
befordits on google cache00:31
djszapi_rZr: we do not trust you ofc :-D00:33
CreamyG31337nokia better wake up and release it themselves if they don't want to change their password00:34
rZrdjszapi,  dont say we, when you want to say i  or take your pill mr skizophrenia , ..00:34
rZrwhich password ?00:34
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trxrapidshare is really slow00:36
trxdownload from dropsend00:36
HtheBlol, links already removed00:36
HtheBglad i copied them :p00:36
trxi found them in google's cache luckily00:38
CreamyG31337rZr, i won't say in here00:38
HtheBgoogle cache, nice one trx00:40
HtheBdidnt tought myself about that :p00:40
rZrthat one  has the google spyware in it :)00:40
HtheBwell, once it's on the internet, it will be always on the interner00:41
HtheBCreamyG31337, you said something about a ????? file?00:41
HtheBwhat did you mean by that00:42
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Khertan_n950leak leak leak n950 leak leak ? seriously ?00:46
HtheByeah, google cache has it00:47
Khertan_n950some rumours of a leaked pr1.3 for n950 appear on tmo, is it true ?00:47
rZrit looks this is a fake announcement00:47
CreamyG31337HtheB, it's just how we know it's an internal build, and nokia might block it from updating00:47
HtheBupdating what.... lol00:47
HtheBas if they will update it ever again00:47
CreamyG31337yeah, exactly, but some ppl insist on keeping it private just in case00:48
DocScrutinizer05ZogG_laptop: WAZZUP?00:48
HtheBi kinda rofl at the edit, it said wait for an official announcement00:48
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: :P00:48
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DocScrutinizer05don'6t highlight my name in vain!00:48
CreamyG31337yeah me too, officiall announcement will be that here is never any updates and we should all buy lumias00:49
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: wanna host leaked pr1.3 for n950?00:49
DocScrutinizer05I won't host hoaxes00:49
DocScrutinizer05'official' leaks are directly to me00:50
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rZrbtw i have build many stuff today ..00:54
ZogG_laptoprZr: but not xmms2 :P00:56
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HtheBrZr, need to take a dump?00:58
HtheBguess you're already takin it lol01:00
rZri am on gtk too01:01
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infobotpr1.3 is probably the latest (and probably last) software update for Fremantle, available since Monday October 25 2010. More information at -- see ~flashing for how to update01:04
infobotPR1.4 has always been a ban'able subject01:04
* infobot beats docscrutinizer05 with a Nostradamus papercopy 34.4 times. "That's your PR1.5!"01:04
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ZogG_laptopkhertan_: :)01:06
khertan_ZogG_laptop, how did they can block this leak ?01:06
khertan_ZogG_laptop, :)01:06
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DocScrutinizer05wtf? is halloween today?01:16
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* DocScrutinizer05 idly wonders what BS goes on at tmo01:16
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rZris there anything you want on that list :01:17
xipp2hey rZr01:17
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DocScrutinizer05not really, but then that's me01:18
jesuschrist_guys any expert of the mail client of the n901:18
rZrask your dad01:18
jesuschrist_my dad ?01:19
jesuschrist_you funny01:19
rZrthis is your name :)01:19
jesuschrist_when you going to port pptp rZr ?01:20
rZrlet me check that one again01:21
jesuschrist_thanks dude01:22
rZrremind me what do need , the tool is there01:22
jesuschrist_what you mean ?01:23
rZrpptp-linux_1.7.2-7_armel.deb is not enough isnt it ?01:24
jesuschrist_you mean dependencies ?01:25
rZryes tell me01:25
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jesuschrist_let me check01:26
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DocScrutinizer05we're so 1337 and sekrit circle, aren't we?01:26
khertan_rZr, no motivation for a vim compile with python support ?01:27
jesuschrist_i think its enough01:27
jesuschrist_no need for anything else01:27
rZrdidnt i told u thats the 1st thing i'll do once gtk is stable :)01:27
jesuschrist_no wait,01:28
jesuschrist_you need ppp01:28
rZryea ppp01:29
rZri didnt finished that one01:29
DocScrutinizer05rZr: I mirrored nokia's buoldservers daily for almost half a year. NOBODY ever checked if there's any 'leaking' shit that got revoked a day later01:29
jesuschrist_btw anyone knows how to send from different mails with the mail client ? i mean having more than one mail in the same account01:29
jesuschrist_rZr : ppp => 2.4.201:30
jesuschrist_and if you could also port a web server rZr :>01:31
jesuschrist_os is there already one ?01:31
DocScrutinizer05meego ... yawn01:31
rZrjesuschrist_, suggest some01:32
rZrthere is didiwiki01:32
jesuschrist_didiwiki ?01:32
jesuschrist_does it run php ?01:32
rZrlitle httpd/wiki server in c01:32
jesuschrist_a webserver and php would be great01:33
jesuschrist_would be cool01:34
ZogG_laptopand KDE4.9 :P01:35
ZogG_laptopand win701:35
rZrwin7 would be cool but i will do just after gnu/hurd prot01:36
rZrand aros :)01:36
ZogG_laptoprZr: plan901:36
ZogG_laptopi win any argument with plan901:36
jesuschrist_anyone knows how to modify from shell the bookmarks on the launcher ?01:37
jesuschrist_where are they located ?01:37
rZrppp is about to be ready to be served01:37
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ZogG_laptoprZr: you are quick01:37
rZrxmms is just slow01:38
rZrjesuschrist_, please test and report if it is usable on tmo01:38
jesuschrist_ZogG_laptop : i would like to install this on the phone
jesuschrist_this is the reason i need a webserver :p01:38
paok, this is maybe a stupid question: but is it possible to run meego-terminal -e somecommand, and then not make it exit?01:39
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jesuschrist_rZr : i dont have any account on tmo, i think i will just get banned if i register my nickname01:39
pafor example run somecommand -h, and then leave it open so that the user can use the termina01:39
ZogG_laptoprZr: that's the difference between dirty sex and making love :P01:39
jesuschrist_where is the ppp package rZr ?01:39
rZrjesuschrist_, just rename yourself to lucifer666satan , i will know it's you01:40
ZogG_laptopon /01:40
rZrjesuschrist_, read that one01:40
panot possible, right?01:41
jesuschrist_i dont see under your repo rzr01:41
jesuschrist_dont see it01:41
rZrsleep 420000 && apt-get update01:42
jesuschrist_already did an update01:42
jesuschrist_lets try in 10 mins01:44
jesuschrist_anyway rzr do you know where the bookmarks on the launcher get stored?01:44
rZrfind ~/.config/ -iname "*.desktop"01:45
jesuschrist_the extensions is .desktop01:47
jesuschrist_not finding anything01:49
jesuschrist_need inception ?01:49
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HtheBe-yes, you there?01:57
HtheBwill there be a optimized nitdroid for pr1.3 kernel?01:57
ZogG_laptophe wouldn't help01:57
ZogG_laptophe didn't get n95001:57
ZogG_laptopcheck forums01:58
ZogG_laptopnitdroid one01:58
HtheBim talking about the N902:00
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HtheBother people that has a N950 can then help to make a kernel working for the N950 like before02:00
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paZogG_laptop, do you know whether it is possible to spawn meego-terminal -e somecommand, and then leave it open instead of the terminal closing as soon as the command ends?02:03
ZogG_laptoppa: what command?02:03
pals, say02:05
ZogG_laptopit depends the goal you want. as we can think to trick it, as i don't know how02:07
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paheh me neither02:08
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pai would like to run a commandline app -h02:08
paand then leave the terminal alive02:08
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rZrscreen ?02:11
rZrxtern -e 'screen -e app -h'02:11
ZogG_laptopthought so02:11
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Oni^pa try start it with .desktop file using options Terminal=True and Exec=app -h &02:12
paaha! thanks02:14
pai try02:14
paOni^, tried that, but terminal still closes02:19
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parZr, but screen is not in the official repos, is it02:25
rZrjesuschrist_, ngxing !02:26
rZrpa, it's in shared repo02:26
payep, but i cant put it as dependency02:26
Oni^pa do script that start terminal and your app in to it02:26
pahm.. not sure what you mean02:28
paif i spawn terminal -e from a script, it will still close after the command executed02:28
paid need a script that starts my app and leaves a shell02:29
pathen i could run terminal with it02:29
paor, run it in terminal02:30
pamaybe myapp -h; ash  ?02:30
palets try02:31
ZogG_laptoppa: what your app does?02:32
pait downloads contacts from gmail02:32
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ZogG_laptopand than?02:34
paand then add them to the phone02:34
ZogG_laptopwhy u need it open than?02:34
pai need to make a desktop icon02:35
paand what i want it to do is running a terminal02:35
pabut also show the usage of my app02:35
Oni^here are some tip to run app in backround
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rZrjesuschrist_, can u test ngxing ?02:37
rZrpa, using syncml or caldav?02:38
parZr, none, i use gdata-api02:39
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ZogG_laptoppa: make script that waits for enter to quit02:40
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payea, that would be a suboptimal plan b... thanks02:41
paso, my method seems to work02:43
payea :)02:44
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panow i can go to bed.. wont manage to polish anyway for now02:44
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HtheBor tgalal__02:45
HtheBor... tgalal?02:45
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ZogG_laptoptgalal__: wow02:50
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tgalal__ZogG_laptop: yeah that's me lol03:25
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npm :-)03:46
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jpwhitinghey all, is there a way to tell cmake in qt creator to build for harmattan target?04:36
crevetor_hey guys, can you point me to the 1.3 sources ?04:52
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ieatlintnpm: wow, that article is hilarious05:09
ieatlint"one of the only ways to get the data off the iPhone or iPad is to guess every PIN combo possible – which could take up to 15years to perform with advanced software if you use an 8-digit pin05:10
ieatlint... yeah, 15 years to guess an 8 digit pin?05:10
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djszapi_jpwhiting: why not use a harmattan option?06:40
djszapi_crevetor_: check the wikipage06:41
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djszapi_anybody with native English alive?07:25
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djszapi_awake, even07:27
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ieatlintalive is colloquially accepted in that context :P07:48
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hiemanshudjszapi_: yeah?08:02
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djszapi_hiemanshu: figured out.
djszapi_hope my English is not that bad in there.10:59
djszapi_jreznik: ^10:59
djszapi_you can always roll the randa support stuff around.10:59
infobotdjszapi_ meant: you can also roll the randa support stuff around.10:59
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jreznikdjszapi_: btw. what about sprint in brno? I already talked to mck182, he was thinking about ktp spring here, we have rooms for community to meet etc :)11:28
jrezniknext planned one is color management hackfest in november, hope for more than a few kde guys to come11:28
djszapi_jreznik: I do not have more holidays for this year, unfortunately.11:29
djszapi_but I am about to organize the KDE Blackberry sprint in January or February11:30
djszapi_either in Berlin at KDAB, or in Brussels pre/post FOSDEM11:30
djszapi_I am not a ktp contributor either.11:30
djszapi_good that you have rooms there though.11:30
djszapi_originally ktp was supposed to have the sprint in Randa as well, but we had to cut the costs.11:31
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djszapi_jreznik: you could also ask M4rtinK, your compatriot to join in Brno. :)11:50
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ZogG_laptopjonni: ping13:19
jonniZogG_laptop: pong13:20
ZogG_laptopjonni: i'm more stupid than you thouhgt :)13:21
jonniZogG_laptop: heh13:21
ZogG_laptopjonni: i don't think it would help me to solve it yet, but kernel i use is .48 :)13:21
ZogG_laptopgoing to update to .54 now13:22
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pagot through!
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Lava_Croftscreenshots looks a bit err14:46
Lava_Croftbusy looking application:)14:46
djszapi|vbthat is what I have just said in private... :P14:47
Lava_Croftit also seems to be using different fonts14:49
Lava_Croftthroughout the screenshot14:49
Lava_Croftemphasis on seems14:49
Lava_Croftmight just be a bit optical trickery14:49
pait uses 2 different kind of fonts14:49
Lava_Crofti think i see nokia sans14:50
pamyriad condensed for where i need condensed, otherwise i guess is nokia-something14:50
Lava_Croftanyhow, it looks a bit messy because of it14:50
pathanks for the feedback :)14:51
Lava_Croftmaybe add some lines or other way to divide the screen into parts14:52
payes i was considering to frame the boxes14:52
Lava_Croftyou fit all the info into one single screen?14:53
pathe realtime info, yes14:53
Lava_Croftmaybe think about splitting it into two orso14:53
palike hr, speed, alti, kcal, and distance14:53
Lava_Croftor some other way to put it together, this is hard to fllow14:53
pai actually wanted to have only one monitor screen14:53
Lava_Croftmove the gps/bt buttons to settings?14:54
pai mean, while you work out you dont really want to fiddle with the phone , right? you just want to look at how you are doing14:55
Lava_Croftyou can reach the settings with your thumb, thanks to the placement of the icon14:55
paabout those switches i was thinking of it..14:55
Lava_Croftif you are doing your working, a screen like this might be a bit hard to read14:55
Lava_Croftas you are moving around14:55
paand i definitely have to split the settings in more pages14:55
Lava_Croftalso those 3 big buttons14:55
Lava_Croftthey need some love:)14:55
Lava_Croftall the info i see is info i would want to see, just not presented in this exact way :)14:56
pahm.. interesting14:56
paso you suggest to separate the boxes, right?14:56
Lava_Croftmaybe, yes14:56
palike with lines or framese14:56
Lava_Croftits very cluttered at the moment14:56
Lava_Crofttry moving back from your screen/screenshot and see it from a distance14:57
Lava_Croftits a bit hard for you probably, since you made this yourself:)14:57
payou looking in the web page, right?14:57
panot on the store shot14:57
Lava_Croftyours, yes14:57
pawell i dont know.. from a distance i cannot read the labels (like km/h)14:57
pai can read the numbers14:58
Lava_Croftthat icon to increase brightness is awfully big too14:58
Lava_Croftmaybe you can try to add colours codes14:58
pai was considering colors14:58
Lava_Croftsettings and brightness icons could be way smaller14:58
pai was thinking of having colors for the various pieces of info14:58
pathe brightness need to be easy to press14:58
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pacoz it increases the brightness only while pressed14:58
Lava_Crofthow is that easy to press, that high up the screen:)14:59
Lava_Croftbottom part is far easier to press14:59
Lava_Croftmaybe switch the settings/brightness icon?14:59
pawell depends how you keep your phone14:59
paif it is in the armband..14:59
pathat was also something i was considering14:59
paok so i could actually switch brightness and settings15:00
paiùve been thinking of it for long time, eventually i left like that15:00
Lava_Croftwell, think for yourself about what people would use more15:00
Lava_Croftthe settings button or the brightness button15:00
pabut color codes and framing i might add15:00
pawell.. thing is that it really depends how you carry your phone when u work out15:01
Lava_Croftkeep up the good work tho! :)15:01
Lava_Croftwell, yeah15:01
Lava_Croftbut it wouldnt be wise to assume people use an armband15:01
pathen i should put the brightness button right in the center :)15:02
pait would be weird looking, but functional15:02
Lava_Croftmaybe you can combine BT/GPS and settings into a single button15:02
Lava_Croftwith a drop-down list orso15:02
Lava_Croftmind you, the technical aspects of building an application like this is beyond me:)15:03
Lava_Croftso i might suggest stuff that sounds crazy from an engineering point of view15:03
pano no, the feedback is great!15:03
paand thanks a lot for it!15:03
pai will probably start reworking it from tomorrow15:03
Lava_Croftto be honest, its the screenshot15:03
pa(today i have to push my other app )15:04
Lava_Croftyou have put work into this, but the screenshot makes my eyes bleed:)15:04
Lava_Croftso i want you to do better!15:04
pa: ))15:04
Lava_Crofti dont think there's really any hurry when it comes to N9 app developing? :)15:04
pawell its my contest app15:04
paso i want it to be good15:04
Lava_Croftthen the UI definitely needs work15:05
Lava_Croftmake it blend in as much with the rest of our N9 as you can15:05
pawell but i want to be black everything that is not text or images15:05
pato save battery15:05
Lava_Croftwell, a lot of the N9's gui is like that15:06
Lava_Croft(which is awesome)15:06
Lava_Croftsuch a minimal theme is hard to get right :<15:06
paalso, Lava, would you mind trying it out? maybe some other things would pop into your eyes once using it :)15:06
Lava_Croftaw the n9 ovi store client cant find it yet:D15:07
Lava_Croftill send sms from browser15:07
Lava_Crofti know how to get direct dl link :)15:08
paok :)15:08
Lava_Croftim just lazy and i already had ovi open on the desktop15:08
Lava_Crofti guess you know that the application icon is a bit odd too? :D15:09
Lava_Croftits a bit strange that when you go to the 'next' window, a bar pops up from the bottom with the 'back' button15:12
Lava_Croftand makes your ui move around15:12
Lava_Croftsince it doesnt overlap your gui, but just wants to set next to it15:13
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Lava_Croftwhen i hold it in my right hand, the features that i can reach the easier with my thumb are turning the GPS/BT on or off15:14
Lava_Croftdont think thats very handy15:14
pahm true15:15
Lava_Croftif you want the brightness button on the (for me) easiest to reach place15:15
Lava_Croftyou would put it in place of the GPS switch15:15
Lava_Croftor in the center between bt/gps switches15:15
paor in the center, to be left handed friendly15:15
Lava_Crofttheres an odd empty space in the center of the screen15:15
Lava_Croftright now15:15
pai was planning to put a graph there15:16
paor two15:16
Lava_Croftwell i guess if you are training and moving about15:16
Lava_Croftand then get the n9 from your pocket15:16
Lava_Croftyou might actually use your thumb pressed on the screen for a more secure hold15:16
Lava_Croftor at least hover over the lower bottom of the screen with it15:16
payes, thats why i have the timeouts on the buttons, right?15:17
pado you think i should have a timeout also on settings?15:17
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Lava_Crofthow do i get back to the big 3button screen15:18
Lava_Croftfrom the Monitor view15:18
payou have to stop recording15:18
pathen you get the back button again15:18
Lava_Croftdont think i am?15:18
pathen there should be a back arrow on the bottom left15:18
Lava_Croftthere isnt15:18
paso you have a large rec button?15:18
pathat span the whole space to the settings button?15:18
Lava_Crofta large red dot, aye15:18
paand it passed QA..15:19
Lava_Croftnot as large as settings button tho15:19
Lava_Croftbefore you ask, i dont want to work there, thank you! :)15:19
pamaybe i should install the app from the store15:19
Lava_Crofti did15:19
Lava_Crofti sent an sms from ovi on my desktop computer15:19
Lava_Croftsends a link to n9 which opens the n9 ovi client15:19
paok, let me try15:20
Lava_Crofti dont think there ever is a Back button in the monitor view15:20
Lava_Crofti just restarted the app, tapped Monitor and it didnt spawn the back button15:21
paits very strange15:21
pai have it here15:23
pajust installed from the store15:23
paas soon as i open the monitor page15:23
pai get three buttons on the bottom15:23
paback, rec, settings15:23
Lava_Croftthat back arrow15:23
Lava_Croftthe unsightly big white arrow15:24
Lava_Croftit doesnt seem to work15:24
pahold it15:24
* Lava_Croft facepalms15:24
Lava_Croftmy bad, hah15:24
Lava_Croftyou had your first DEU15:24
pawell, in the web page graphics, its explained :)15:24
Lava_Croftoh i didnt even look at the manual15:24
Lava_Croftnobody does15:25
Lava_Croftmaybe pop up a manual screen when the app starts for the first time?15:25
pahmm.. good idea15:25
paso, color, boxes separation, buttons rearrangement, for now15:26
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pado you think that an app that if misused might mess up phone contacts can get into the store?15:55
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radiofreepa: that's entirely possible17:03
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radiofreedo you need a security credential for contacts? I mean you could easily mess them up with the Tracker read/write credential17:04
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pathats what im using now17:12
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paso well i try to submit it17:12
radiofreeI don't there's going to go through it with a fine tooth comb17:13
radiofreethey are going to go...17:13
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pai see17:20
pathanks :)17:20
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sledgeswhat aegis rule is needed to make this syscall succeed when launched as non-root (I am trying to add a shutdown button): m_State->set(MeeGo::QmSystemState::ShuttingDown) ?17:29
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MohammadAGwtf is no default action for the given PARAMS17:58
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jonnisledges: dsme::DeviceStateControl  (
sledgesthank you jonni, I think this guy is mixing apples with bananas: by using dbus and then adding manifest.aegis18:11
sledgesi am rookie in aegis and general meego API and Qt Creator/OBS interaction.18:12
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jonnisledges: well as long as he added the credential to his binary, he can call dbus-send too, works, but is a kludge.18:13
sledgesCould you help me / would it be easy to add manifest.aegis to an existing project ?18:14
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jonnisledges: it already has manigest in here
jonnimanifest even18:15
sledgesoops you are right, I am looking at it now18:16
sledgesso if in OBS I put up a .patch to add "<credential name="dsme::DeviceStateControl" />", OBS should take care of the rest and the ::set(shuttingdown) apicall should succeed?18:16
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jonnisledges: yes in theory, but you cannot put that credential to any ovi store application since its not allowed for 3rd parties, but if you use exploited capas, like inception, then yes.18:18
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sledgeswell, isn't systemui a part of internal apps (this task is for Nemo mobile at the moment)18:18
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sledgesso, should suffice18:19
Sfiet_KonstantinHello everybody18:19
sledgeshello Sfiet18:19
Sfiet_Konstantinaegis question ...18:19
* sledges just asked one :))18:19
Sfiet_Konstantinwhat the hell is: "Aegis rejecting /home/developer/widgets_1.0.0_armel.deb: opt/widgets/widgets/corewidgets/ not installed by the package"18:19
Sfiet_Konstantinwhy is aegis rejecting my plugin18:21
jonniSfiet_Konstantin: most likely that .so file is not included in your deb, but manifest has the path defined. check with ar that the .so file really is inside the deb18:21
Sfiet_Konstantinno, it is the reverse, all the libs are in the deb, but the manifest only have credentials for the main app18:22
jonnican you give url to deb?18:23
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause I don't know what credential to put18:23
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sledgesjonni, thank you; but it looks like all I needed to change to make  m_State->set(MeeGo::QmSystemState::ShuttingDown)18:40
sledgeswork was in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/dsme.conf: <deny ...shutdown> into <allow ...shutdown>18:40
sledgescould anyone tell me, why with Qt4 Quick by adding a new MButton(qtTrId("my_test")) (with //% "My test" comment above) its label gets rendered as "!! My test" ?18:43
phakoTo tell you it's not translated yet18:43
phakoto make it easy to spot untranslated strings in the UI18:44
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sledgesphako, I wanted to add my button next to a "Settings" button, so I did. But when I grep meegotouch-systemui project's source tree for "Settings" or for its qtTrId identifier, it pointed me only to that .cpp file, and nowhere else to any other translations18:45
sledgesso I thought //% "My test" is enough18:45
sledgesunless there is a separate translation project18:45
phakono, that's called "Engineering english"18:45
sledgesok, saw that somewhere18:45
phakothe translations are in some nokia-i10n-foo-bar18:45
sledgesyes, there is one along these lines18:46
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sledgesthank you , phako , found it and i'm on it :))18:51
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Sfiet_KonstantinI still do not understand19:03
Sfiet_Konstantinwhy most of my plugins are accepted19:03
Sfiet_Konstantinbut not three19:03
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Sfiet_Konstantinok ... it seems to be related to the length of the name :S19:05
rashm2kanyone got a full exampe of QobjectList based model?19:11
rashm2knot sure what the rest of the DataObject Classs is supposed to be19:12
Sfiet_Konstantindataobject should be a QObject19:13
Sfiet_Konstantinwith Q_OBJECT macro19:13
Sfiet_Konstantinand properties declared with Q_PROPERTY19:13
Sfiet_Konstantinsetting either READ and CONSTANT19:13
Sfiet_Konstantinor READ WRITE and NOTIFY19:13
rashm2kwhat does Q_PROPERTY do?19:14
rashm2kwhat does this line mean:19:14
rashm2kQ_PROPERTY(QString name READ name WRITE setName NOTIFY nameChanged)19:14
Sfiet_Konstantinit declares an attribute to the metaobject19:15
Sfiet_Konstantinmeaning that you can access to that attribute without calling the getter and setter19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinwhen you declare Q_PROPERTY(Type foo READ foo WRITE setFoo)19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinyou say that the attribute will be named foo19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinand the getter is foo()19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinand the setter is setFoo19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinthis property system is useful in many cases19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinfirst: introspection19:16
Sfiet_Konstantinyou can read a property without knowing the type of object19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinusing metaobject systems19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinand second and more umportant19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinin QML19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinthe property will be accessible through foo19:17
Sfiet_KonstantinMyItem { foo: 3 }19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinbut in QML you need to register a signal to notify a change too19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinthat's why there is NOTIFY fooChanged()19:17
Sfiet_Konstantinam i clear ?19:18
rashm2kexcellent Sfiet_Konstantin!19:20
rashm2kvery clear19:20
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rashm2kso I still need to define the getters and setters methods?19:21
Sfiet_Konstantinyou need to create a qobject19:21
Sfiet_Konstantinthat is something like a container object19:21
Sfiet_Konstantinthat have some attributes19:21
Sfiet_Konstantindeclared as properties19:21
rashm2kdeclared as properties???19:22
Sfiet_Konstantini give you an example19:22
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Sfiet_Konstantinyour header should be like this19:22
Sfiet_Konstantinforget about W_DECLARE_PRIVATE and d_pointer, and replace them with your private attributes19:23
Sfiet_Konstantin(and remark Q_SIGNALS = signals)19:23
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rashm2kthanks for the links much appreciated!!!!!!!19:26
ZogG_N9links for wut?19:26
Sfiet_Konstantinexample of Q_PROPERTY19:26
Sfiet_Konstantinyeah rashm2k ?19:26
rashm2kmeant thanks to you19:27
Sfiet_Konstantink :)19:27
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djszapi|winLava_Croft: do you mind giving some feedback about our UI Design as well for my application?20:09
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi: what ap?20:32
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Venemo~seen ajalkane20:42
infobotajalkane <> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 1d 22h 58m 10s ago, saying: 'djszapi_: o/'.20:43
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djszapiVenemo: what would you like to tell him?21:13
djszapiI am in touch with him, so I can forward.21:13
djszapiZogG_laptop: secret ap21:13
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: mkoy.png21:14
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: stop touching ajalkane21:15
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djszapinot that I mentioned I touch him, but certain people have strange phantasy ;>21:19
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ggfghdammit !21:22
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Venemodjszapi, I'd like to talk to him about Qt 5 on N921:46
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djszapi_Venemo: you can talk to me as well21:48
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djszapi_what would you like to know?21:57
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djszapi_you need to have python installed for building the v8 stack though.22:05
djszapi_rZr: someone got the raspberry in France two weeks ago.22:10
djszapi_from the free batch. One colleague told that to me in the company.22:10
ZogG_hunterdjszapi: and Israel?22:12
MohammadAGprobably never got it22:12
djszapi_ZogG_hunter: who cares about Israel. XD22:13
ZogG_hunterMohammadAG: my friend got it for a long time and i got notice about future notice of me getting22:14
ZogG_hunterMohammadAG: did you see my wazapp msg?22:14
MohammadAGZogG_hunter, yep, you're a hunter now?22:18
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padjszapi, any better? or
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djszapi_pa: you have really weird ideas. :)22:20
ZogG_hunterMohammadAG: it's just coz a lot of USERNAME_bears in #funtoo chan :P22:20
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* MohammadAG wonders how to encrypt shit using IMEI22:21
djszapi_ZogG_laptop: #sadtoo is better22:21
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: did you hacked rav-kav? :P22:23
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MohammadAGno, but I'd rather have the user's access token not usable on another device22:25
MohammadAGby means of a simple cp at least22:25
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: sociality?22:26
ZogG_laptopso we gonna see you next meeting?22:26
pawell Lava_Croft was suggesting to use colors and lines, thats why i moked that up :)22:28
djszapi_the main problem is *not* the colours for me22:29
djszapi_and the lines are not good enough either to fix the superbloatness22:29
pado you think some more vertical spacing would help?22:29
djszapi_since you usually have two colours on cycling computers as well anyway22:29
djszapi_1) No margins22:30
djszapi_2) vertical switchers???22:30
pawell to save space22:30
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djszapi_well, I do not try to help, if you do the application for yourself. ;)22:31
djszapi_if you like it, and if it is done for you, it is all fine.22:31
pai agree that it is a bit too condensed22:32
pait's because i wanted to save some space for some graphs22:32
djszapi_I have such a superbloatness when I randomly write onto the blackboard22:32
djszapi_at a sprint22:32
djszapi_at I drump my ideas22:32
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djszapi_let me finish the ui design I have in mind, and I will show you.22:33
paokay :)22:34
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befordhi ZogG_laptop, djszapi22:39
ZogG_laptoppa: your app?22:40
ZogG_laptopi think the UI is nice, just few tweaks22:41
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MohammadAGWARNING: QObject::connect: Cannot queue arguments of type 'QNetworkReply::NetworkError'23:00
MohammadAG(Make sure 'QNetworkReply::NetworkError' is registered using qRegisterMetaType().)23:00
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MohammadAGZogG_laptop, hopefully23:00
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paZogG_laptop, thanks.  but i guess some bloat should be removed :)23:03
pawho's using gmail accounts to store and sync phone contacts here?23:06
ZogG_laptopi stoped as it changed and deleted my accounts once already23:07
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pawhat deleted your accounts?23:14
paand what do you use now?23:14
ZogG_laptopi don't sync23:15
ZogG_laptopi backup23:15
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paso you dont have contacts on gmail anymore, right?23:16
infobotfrom memory, update is
pacoz i need beta testers for my app :) i mean, im using it already for quite a while23:16
paand its totally safe, if used properly23:16
ZogG_laptoppa: right23:20
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