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ieatlint | looks like i missed more aegis ranting | 00:09 |
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djszapi_ | ieatlint: you cannot miss since it is always ongoing. :P | 00:10 |
ieatlint | nokia sure is on a winning streak these days | 00:12 |
jonni | well atleast nokia stock is +51.3% up in the last 30 days... so people who bought the stock when it was down are smiling | 00:16 |
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petteri | :) | 00:18 |
djszapi_ | well, it is certainly not a big investment... | 00:18 |
djszapi_ | from that low-amount.. | 00:18 |
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ieatlint | jonni: i was almost one of them | 00:20 |
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ieatlint | but it only got as low as $1.69, and i wasn't prepared to invest enough to make the payout worthwhile | 00:21 |
ieatlint | not unless it jumps to like $5 when microsoft announces a buyout | 00:21 |
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robertjw | djszapi_: I have already searched the repos which I know about and did not find squid. Also I'm in a location this weekend without good connectivity. My N9 is all I've got. | 00:34 |
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robertjw | rzr: what's wrong with openldap? build issues? | 00:38 |
djszapi_ | robertjw: usually apt-cache search and c-obs search what others would do as well | 00:39 |
djszapi_ | robertjw: look at the state and buildlog, if needed | 00:39 |
djszapi_ | and you will see yourself. | 00:39 |
ieatlint | is there a reason to not just use ssh socks proxy instead of squid? | 00:40 |
robertjw | i tried socks5 and the n9 did not forward out the packets | 00:41 |
rZr | offline ? | 00:41 |
robertjw | notebook -> usb networking -> n9 -> network | 00:41 |
ZogG_laptop | ._. | 00:43 |
rZr | robertjw, do you have scratchbox o? | 00:43 |
robertjw | no | 00:43 |
beford | sup ZogG_laptop | 00:43 |
robertjw | unfortunately, i have no browser in this limited network configuration right now, so i'm running a bit blind | 00:44 |
rZr | robertjw, ask me later i will fix ldap and build it , unless someone want to help here | 00:44 |
robertjw | lynx will only get you so far :) | 00:44 |
DocScrutinizer05 | ieatlint: the rant was basically about state of things is like >18months ago, nothing changed and neither did my arguments. Only that they proved true meanwhile, but also futile for dead meego. Maybe they help for jolla / mer though, and that's basically why I still continue on them | 00:48 |
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ieatlint | robertjw: i've previously used the ssh socks proxy for tethering.. dunno | 01:07 |
ieatlint | DocScrutinizer05: hopefully we see something worthwhile from jolla.. at the moment, i'm expecting a corporate version of openmok :/ | 01:08 |
DocScrutinizer05 | tbh I have no idea what to expect | 01:10 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and that's a tad annoying | 01:10 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | since it again starts like Nokia: NFC about FOSS, finalize things behind closed walls then throw over the wall | 01:11 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | you'd think meanwhile they could've learned | 01:13 |
ieatlint | well, it is nokia peoples | 01:13 |
DocScrutinizer05 | basically I consider all that hijacking linux | 01:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and the FOSS idea | 01:15 |
DocScrutinizer05 | only a small difference between Nokia not publishing some GPLed code until you ask in stern voice, and other companies not publishing any code at all until sued by Harald Welte | 01:16 |
* rZr <3 fingerterm | 01:18 | |
DocScrutinizer05 | and even when publishing, they do by sending out DVD 8 weeks after binaries rolled out - that's pretty insane | 01:19 |
DocScrutinizer05 | every single line of code says "we might obey to GPL, but that doesn't mean we like it, and we'll find ways to mess it up nevertheless" | 01:21 |
DocScrutinizer05 | they did for maemo (you can't update to any newer kernel version, not to mention userland) and they did again for meego | 01:22 |
faenil | :/ | 01:23 |
DocScrutinizer05 | hell they even kept datasheets closed, of chips they got custom made like LP5523 | 01:24 |
faenil | and the battery gauge? | 01:25 |
DocScrutinizer05 | nah, that one been public (on N900, not though on N9) | 01:25 |
faenil | not on N9, exactly | 01:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | actually N9 looks like another example of the LP5523 DS-brainfart | 01:26 |
faenil | should be a bq27521, but there is nothing known about that one | 01:26 |
DocScrutinizer05 | yep, I know. I evaluated it | 01:26 |
faenil | oh | 01:26 |
faenil | I know because we were trying to get the battery level working on nemomobile | 01:27 |
faenil | (w00t did then, with openbme) | 01:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and I already wonder to again use my contacts (*NOT* to Nokia this time) to get a copy of the DS under NDA | 01:27 |
faenil | :) | 01:27 |
DocScrutinizer05 | I did with LP5523, can do again with bq27521 | 01:28 |
DocScrutinizer05 | btw LP5523 datasheet is public meanwhile ;-P | 01:29 |
DocScrutinizer05 | bottom line: Nokia is nuts with their NDA policy at large | 01:31 |
DocScrutinizer05 | and not only in their public policy, as I can tell from my job | 01:32 |
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DocScrutinizer05 | probably for designing bq27521 the TI engineers had to wear black sunglasses so they don't see what they're working on | 01:33 |
rZr | :) | 01:34 |
djszapi_ | wow, there is a cmd line frontend for facebook | 01:36 |
djszapi_ | although not in qtcore. | 01:36 |
rZr | who cares of fb | 01:36 |
djszapi_ | many, including me | 01:37 |
rZr | who needs this ? | 01:37 |
rZr | fb needs you ... | 01:37 |
djszapi_ | that is not what I said, but sure... you are entitled to misinterpret me. | 01:38 |
rZr | well i am gine | 01:41 |
rZr | -i+o | 01:42 |
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pa | anyone still awake? | 02:15 |
pa | i have some packaging/aegis troubles | 02:15 |
pa | im trying to package a python project without the help of pyside-assistant | 02:15 |
pa | following this: | 02:15 |
pa | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=5880 | 02:15 |
pa | so i have my _aegis file that i add to the deb with ar | 02:16 |
pa | the problem is that i dont get the credentials on the files i specify | 02:16 |
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pa | maybe something about signatures missing? | 02:23 |
M4rtinK | pa: I'm also doing my Python packaging without PySide-Assistant, but with sdist_maemo (see http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=40182&postcount=2) | 02:31 |
M4rtinK | pa: so net really sure what might have went wrong in your case | 02:32 |
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ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: are you alive | 02:34 |
ZogG_laptop | ? | 02:34 |
pa | M4rtinK, thanks i'll have alook now | 02:41 |
ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: http://i.imgur.com/aaArJ.jpg | 02:42 |
pa | hm | 02:45 |
ZogG_laptop | mh | 02:45 |
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pa | im cehcking sdist_maemo in ur zip, but its not xtra easy to decode the whole think | 02:45 |
pa | thing | 02:45 |
M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: congratulation to your new N950 :) | 02:45 |
ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: have it for a while | 02:45 |
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M4rtinK | pa: there are basically two important files | 02:46 |
M4rtinK | setup.py that generates the package itself and does the signing | 02:47 |
M4rtinK | and a shell script that does the rest (gets source from git, runs setup.py, pushes the source package to OBS) | 02:47 |
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ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: and makes a coffee | 02:48 |
pa | M4rtinK, in my case the problem is the aegis manifest | 02:48 |
pa | that in your case seems empty | 02:48 |
pa | and what i need to understand is how to add it | 02:49 |
robertjw | ieatlint: i'll try socks again, if that works i'll be happy. did you have to set any kernel parameters to enable it? | 02:49 |
pa | i mean, if i do a rgrep aegis * it doesnt find anything | 02:49 |
pa | i guess u dont need credentials for your app | 02:50 |
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ZogG_laptop | robertjw: playing with kernel? | 02:51 |
M4rtinK | pa: this is a more up to date example + uses Aegis credentials: http://www.modrana.org/misc/modrana_build_example.zip | 02:53 |
pa | maybe i got it.. is it possible that the reason is that i rename the .deb? | 02:54 |
pa | let se | 02:54 |
robertjw | ZogG_laptop: trying to get socks5 to work. when i tried ssh socks earlier, i was seeing incoming packets to the n9 but no outgoing packets. | 02:57 |
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pa | need to try tomorrow | 02:58 |
pa | now i must sleep | 02:58 |
pa | night | 02:58 |
M4rtinK | pa: good point :) | 02:58 |
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ZogG_laptop | robertjw: open-mode? | 03:06 |
robertjw | ieatlint: socks5 over ssh is working for me now, just had to fiddle with it. thanks for encouraging meto go down this path. | 03:06 |
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djszapi_ | pa: why would you ever rename the deb ?? | 09:50 |
djszapi_ | also, your problem description is a bit vague, to say the least. | 09:52 |
djszapi_ | at least, I am getting what the actual symptom is... | 09:52 |
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ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: sup | 11:10 |
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ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: morning | 11:17 |
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khertan | Morning | 12:08 |
Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, afternoon ;) | 12:14 |
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ZogG_laptop | :) | 12:20 |
ZogG_laptop | khertan: how are you? | 12:20 |
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khertan | ZogG_laptop: fine | 12:40 |
khertan | ZogG_laptop: and you ? | 12:41 |
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djszapi | Hi! Is there a way of figuring out the number of my new sim card, I have just bought, without calling anybody, but visiting the settings, or an identification page, etc? | 13:09 |
trx | in the settings nope | 13:17 |
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trx | maybe there is a */# code | 13:18 |
djszapi | too bad. :/ | 13:20 |
djszapi | I would have the impression, such a "command" towards the SIM should be standardized, so handsets could handle directly for any cards. | 13:20 |
djszapi | or at least for "standard compliants". | 13:20 |
SpeedEvil | nope | 13:21 |
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SpeedEvil | then sim may not know its number. | 13:21 |
djszapi | it must know | 13:21 |
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SpeedEvil | or it may not even be allocated until you register it. | 13:22 |
SpeedEvil | nope. | 13:22 |
djszapi | otherwise it would not be able to send its number to the callee | 13:22 |
djszapi | unless the remote network figures that bit out. | 13:22 |
SpeedEvil | the network knows the number. | 13:22 |
SpeedEvil | you can't just send random numbers. the sim merelyis a 'Mac number. it requires the network to allocate it a number when it connects | 13:23 |
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SpeedEvil | some sims have an own phone number memory | 13:24 |
SpeedEvil | at+cnum=? from memory. | 13:24 |
djszapi | right, so it should be at least a "try and get" method. | 13:24 |
SpeedEvil | but this only works with one of my sims. | 13:24 |
djszapi | with a warning, if there is no such a memory available. | 13:24 |
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djszapi | isn't there such an application in Ovi, already to give it a try? | 13:25 |
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SpeedEvil | I've never seen a phone that can reliablgn figure out own number. markets will vary, some may have number set always. | 13:26 |
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djszapi | what do you mean by number set? | 13:27 |
djszapi | more precisely, what is the problem with figuring out the "number set" with such an application? Nothing, as far as I see. | 13:27 |
SpeedEvil | the 'own number' entry in the sim set before you purchase it. | 13:27 |
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djszapi | if it cannot be, warning, if can be, happyness. | 13:27 |
SpeedEvil | the above at command can work. but I have no idea how to access this through at | 13:29 |
trx | is the number stored in the sim? | 13:29 |
SpeedEvil | I note that my n950 did not display own number anywhere on ui | 13:29 |
trx | i taught that its in operators db | 13:30 |
trx | thought* | 13:30 |
SpeedEvil | it is. | 13:30 |
SpeedEvil | they may also add it to a memory in the sim though | 13:30 |
SpeedEvil | in the case of UK, quite often not. | 13:31 |
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djszapi | SpeedEvil: I am now in Ireland, so the practice is probably not all that distinct over here. | 13:31 |
djszapi | right, you have three in the UK as well. | 13:32 |
djszapi | so do you have vodafone, et cetera. | 13:32 |
SpeedEvil | yes. | 13:33 |
djszapi | which sim was (not) okay for you? | 13:34 |
djszapi | does that depend on the provider in your case, or on the given sim card? | 13:34 |
SpeedEvil | most | 13:34 |
SpeedEvil | t-mobile, 3, voda have both given me SIMs with no embedded number | 13:35 |
SpeedEvil | This may be different for non PAYG | 13:35 |
djszapi | I also use prepay. | 13:35 |
SpeedEvil | what does at+cnum=? return? | 13:35 |
djszapi | not sure how to get that work exactly. | 13:36 |
djszapi | minicom, gserial, command? | 13:36 |
djszapi | is that it? | 13:36 |
SpeedEvil | pnatd | 13:36 |
djszapi | or some ppp stuff? | 13:36 |
SpeedEvil | hmm - is pnatd on the n950 | 13:36 |
SpeedEvil | yes | 13:37 |
djszapi | well | 13:37 |
djszapi | I cannot use the terminal directly on the N9 screen I guess. | 13:37 |
djszapi | depends on what delay they tolerate. | 13:38 |
djszapi | Perhaps, it is wiser to do over ssh | 13:38 |
djszapi | and copy paste | 13:38 |
SpeedEvil | delay is fine | 13:38 |
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djszapi | they tolerate such a big delay like typing? | 13:38 |
djszapi | meh, I am using archlinux in the vbox guest | 13:38 |
djszapi | and it is not all that simple to get ssh work that way | 13:39 |
djszapi | Perhaps, I could use putty on Windows. | 13:39 |
SpeedEvil | it's not realtime | 13:39 |
djszapi | but I do not have time for that as of now | 13:39 |
djszapi | right, so it is not like modems, I worked with. | 13:39 |
SpeedEvil | You will either get a response "ok" bare - which means no stored number. | 13:39 |
djszapi | does it require an cr at the end? | 13:39 |
SpeedEvil | Most modems have no timeout | 13:39 |
SpeedEvil | yes | 13:39 |
djszapi | of lf | 13:39 |
djszapi | or* | 13:39 |
SpeedEvil | just enter in keypad works | 13:39 |
SpeedEvil | or you get a number | 13:39 |
djszapi | reply: OK | 13:40 |
SpeedEvil | :/ | 13:40 |
djszapi | perhaps '=' is a scam in there... | 13:40 |
djszapi | you sure that is needed? | 13:40 |
djszapi | usually ? is the query | 13:40 |
djszapi | without the '=' | 13:40 |
djszapi | at least for modems, I worked with. | 13:40 |
SpeedEvil | try it | 13:40 |
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djszapi | it is basically returning "OK" for almost everything. | 13:41 |
SpeedEvil | http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Phone | 13:41 |
SpeedEvil | It is in fact at+cnum | 13:42 |
djszapi | yeah, "OK" | 13:42 |
djszapi | tried that, too, already. | 13:42 |
djszapi | it is a three sim card right now | 13:43 |
djszapi | I ahve two vodafone ones, too | 13:43 |
SpeedEvil | the above page lists it working with my tmobile PAYG SIM | 13:43 |
djszapi | right, I do not have t-mobile sim card. | 13:43 |
djszapi | I had 2 vodafone: one for calling, one for mobile broadband | 13:43 |
djszapi | and now one three since I switched to three from vodafone due to the unlimited internet | 13:44 |
djszapi | and not 5 GB stupid limit :) | 13:44 |
djszapi | btw, can I use the vodafone usb modem (stick) in any vodafone countries? | 13:44 |
djszapi | or are they usually tied to the resident country where purchased? | 13:44 |
SpeedEvil | I dropped from 10G to 1G for mobile, on 3, as I'm not using that as much. | 13:44 |
SpeedEvil | You can use it. If you're very, very rich. | 13:44 |
SpeedEvil | I don't think it will even roam over from ireland cheaply. | 13:45 |
SpeedEvil | But check that, I suppose it might. | 13:45 |
SpeedEvil | In general, if they can charge you insane amounts of money, they will. | 13:45 |
djszapi | no no | 13:46 |
djszapi | what I mean is that if I can use the same stick with for instance Finnish or Hungarian vodafone sim card | 13:46 |
djszapi | in Finland or Hungary | 13:46 |
djszapi | well, there is no vodafone in Finland, but you are getting the point. | 13:46 |
djszapi | so what I would like to avoid is to buy a stick again. | 13:46 |
djszapi | because it is something like 50 EUR. | 13:46 |
djszapi | at least what I purchased. | 13:46 |
djszapi | so the question is more like, if the modem can handle vodafone sim card from all over the world where they operate. | 13:47 |
SpeedEvil | In principle, but you need a non SIM-locked modem. | 13:48 |
SpeedEvil | I don't know if they simlock. If they do, you'd need to unlock it | 13:48 |
SpeedEvil | Plus, there is the issue of frequency band. | 13:48 |
djszapi | can you elaborate? | 13:49 |
SpeedEvil | A device can have eitehr a provider, or a simlock set. | 13:49 |
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SpeedEvil | This means it will not accept cards from a different provider, or a different SIM to the one shipped with it. | 13:49 |
djszapi | ok, sorry... | 13:50 |
SpeedEvil | And differnet countries have different 3G frequencies, which means that the hardware may not work | 13:50 |
djszapi | I meant elaborate in case the freqband... | 13:50 |
SpeedEvil | generally, you can pay them to unlocak | 13:50 |
SpeedEvil | but they may not have this setup | 13:50 |
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djszapi | I have just written an email to them about this; thank you. | 13:56 |
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ZogG_laptop | i'm back :) | 14:11 |
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djszapi | SpeedEvil: what exactly is the modem manufacturer? | 14:33 |
djszapi | It returns Nokia for my irish sim card... | 14:34 |
djszapi | the modem is the handset in case of sim card data plan without the mobile broadband stick? | 14:34 |
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djszapi | SpeedEvil: and there is no "#foobar" number either I can query my number with, frm the network? | 15:00 |
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SpeedEvil | as I understand it, no. | 15:26 |
djszapi | no what? | 15:32 |
djszapi | I had two questions. =) | 15:32 |
SpeedEvil | there is no magic number | 15:32 |
SpeedEvil | there seems to be a sim toolkit way, but it doesn't work on the n950 | 15:33 |
djszapi | interestingf | 15:38 |
djszapi | -f | 15:38 |
* khertan hate regex | 15:42 | |
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djszapi | I wonder why regex got so widely known and common | 15:45 |
djszapi | it should be hidden in a shelter. :) | 15:45 |
ZogG_laptop | why would it? | 15:53 |
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Venemo | ~seen ajalkane | 15:54 |
infobot | ajalkane <~ajalkane@a88-115-212-112.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 18h 9m 30s ago, saying: 'djszapi_: o/'. | 15:54 |
ZogG_laptop | ~poke Venemo | 15:56 |
* infobot cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Venemo, pokes Venemo repeatedly, hilarity ensues. | 15:56 | |
Venemo | hey ZogG_laptop | 15:56 |
Venemo | what's up? | 15:56 |
ZogG_laptop | not bad | 15:56 |
ZogG_laptop | can be better | 15:56 |
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Rantwolf | hi. is there anyone who installed the syncevolutions package on the nokia n9? | 16:14 |
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Rantwolf | i get errors while installing the package | 16:15 |
khertan | hum somewhat maybe can help me fighting with regex ... i'm trying to replace all text contained between ** and all text contain between * ... and the problem is that the second regex match the first **test** it saw | 16:15 |
khertan | [^_*](\*)(?=\S)(.+?)(?=\S)(\*|)[^_*] > **test** should do it | 16:16 |
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djszapi | khertan: why do you use regex for that? | 16:27 |
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djszapi | khertan: I dislike dealing with regex, but that regex seems broken altogether | 16:34 |
djszapi | even though I am unsure what you are trying to accomplush. | 16:35 |
djszapi | s/accomplushaccomplish/ | 16:35 |
djszapi | s/accomplush/accomplish/ | 16:35 |
infobot | djszapi meant: s/accomplishaccomplish/ | 16:35 |
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khertan | (?<!\*|_)(\*|_)(?!\*)(\s?)(.+?)(\s?)(?<!\*|_)(\*|_)(?!\*|_) <<<< perfectly readable | 16:41 |
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khertan | oh my god | 16:41 |
SpeedEvil | I once wrote send mail.CD | 16:42 |
SpeedEvil | CD | 16:42 |
SpeedEvil | cf | 16:42 |
SpeedEvil | now, that's scary. and not the m4 version | 16:42 |
Arkenoi | i once wrote a script that creates sendmail.cf without m4 | 16:43 |
djszapi | SpeedEvil: http://regexlib.com/REDetails.aspx?regexp_id=260&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 | 16:45 |
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SpeedEvil | There are syntactically valid invalid postcodes | 17:03 |
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djszapi | ZogG_laptop: got your rpi? | 17:11 |
khertan | fucking bloody hell ! I lost 1 day trying to create fucking styled text for Qml TextArea ... and it s completely useless as it s completely unusable due to fucking keyboard bugs !!! | 17:12 |
khertan | when you text got focus and vkb opens it s insert random shitty caracters | 17:12 |
djszapi | fucking who cares? : P | 17:12 |
ZogG_laptop | djszapi: nope | 17:13 |
djszapi | ZogG_laptop: sounds like nothing was delivered except the UK and America. | 17:13 |
djszapi | oh few people got also in Asia (India)./ | 17:13 |
djszapi | I do not believe it will arrive... | 17:15 |
djszapi | and Tom is not working for Nokia anymore. | 17:15 |
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djszapi | ZogG_laptop: got a reply from Tom | 17:30 |
ZogG_laptop | djszapi: nope | 17:32 |
ZogG_laptop | who is Tom? | 17:32 |
djszapi | you do not follow the qt on pi mailing list? | 17:33 |
djszapi | he was one of the guys pushing Farnell hard about this | 17:33 |
djszapi | but he has left Nokia as well anyways | 17:33 |
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trx | https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309 | 18:09 |
trx | did anyone follow this? | 18:09 |
trx | Status: REOPENED | 18:09 |
trx | and assigned | 18:10 |
trx | does that mean that someone is actually working on this? | 18:10 |
djszapi | in the fabule :P | 18:10 |
javispedro | I think anyone can reopen a bug. | 18:11 |
khertan | jedi.theone 2012-03-12 09:16:38 EET Status REOPENED | 18:12 |
trx | soumya.3.bijjal2012-06-21 13:44:24 EEST Assigneeext-risto.lahtiext-ville-pekka.karhu | 18:13 |
trx | i didint know that anyone can reopen :) | 18:14 |
trx | didn't* | 18:14 |
trx | so a fake :/ | 18:14 |
djszapi | no, Soumya is not fake | 18:15 |
djszapi | she was a front person for public relation like that | 18:15 |
trx | so is it a fake or not? (sarcasm? :)) | 18:16 |
djszapi | ?? | 18:16 |
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trx | do you think that it will be implemented really or not? | 18:18 |
djszapi | I would not really take my breath. | 18:20 |
trx | ok, thanks | 18:21 |
djszapi | they even dropped Qt. | 18:22 |
djszapi | so why would they even care about Harmattan. | 18:22 |
djszapi | harmattan pretty much means what we have, I speculate so. | 18:23 |
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Sazpaimon | I like how after all the trouble I went through getting ipv6 working in fremantle, on harmattan it's literally just 2 switches | 18:24 |
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Pali | Sazpaimon, I created metapckage for fremantle which install and configure ipv6 for wifi - it used old diablo icd2 plugin... | 18:33 |
Sazpaimon | yeah for wifi | 18:36 |
Sazpaimon | what about GPRS? | 18:36 |
Pali | Sazpaimon, my operator does not have ipv6 so I cannot test anything... | 18:36 |
Sazpaimon | on harmattan you just enable developer mode, press the ipv6 button and, assuming your APN is the same for both v4 and v6, you're good to go | 18:37 |
Pali | yes, I saw ipv6 button in developer mode | 18:37 |
Pali | but I do not think that ipv6 will be supported in Slovak operators... | 18:38 |
Pali | so I do not care about ipv6 via gsm/3g | 18:38 |
Sazpaimon | they'll have to support it at some point | 18:39 |
Sazpaimon | blindly ignoring ipv6 will just lead to a world of hurt | 18:39 |
Pali | there are plans for (big) ipv4 NAT which (operators think) fix this problem :D:D | 18:40 |
Sazpaimon | what happens when more ipv6-only sites start popping up | 18:41 |
Pali | it will not be in Slovakia - so operators will ignore it... | 18:41 |
Pali | it is really good joke that in my country will be (more) ipv6 only sites/server :D | 18:43 |
Pali | operators do not care about customers... they only want to see money | 18:44 |
Pali | and building ipv6 infrastructure is not cheap (at least operators do not get money from that)... | 18:45 |
Sazpaimon | well when people stop paying their operator because they can no longer access content, then we'll see what happens | 18:47 |
djszapi | aaaaaaaaaaaaaarmageddon ! | 18:48 |
Pali | this will not happen in near future... a lot of people using mobile internet only for emails, chat, facebook, ... and I do not think that gmail or facebook will turn off ipv4 servers | 18:50 |
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shanttu | weird bug. vkb doesn't pop up on 'messages' anymore. | 18:52 |
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Pali | also I looked for normal *home* (adsl) routers with ipv6 support which is possible to buy in slovakia... no router with ipv6 support yet (some has flag: ipv6 upgrade support in future) | 18:54 |
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djszapi | any graphics master here with 3D stuff? | 19:22 |
pa | what kind of 3d stuff? | 19:23 |
djszapi | graphics in general | 19:25 |
djszapi | mostly theoritical. | 19:25 |
djszapi | I am a kinda n00b about this, and would have some questions, preferrably in private. | 19:26 |
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pa | i've done something, but im not sure im master enough on the specific, but you can ask sure :) | 19:28 |
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beford | hi | 19:53 |
djszapi | beford: sup | 19:53 |
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beford | hey djszapi, not much, working working | 19:54 |
beford | not enough time to finish my app for the coding competition | 19:55 |
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Venemo | beford: what app is that? | 19:57 |
beford | transmission remote controller | 19:57 |
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Venemo_N9 | hm. | 19:58 |
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beford | transmission torrent client :P also got tranmission daemon compiled i'll try to bundle it | 19:59 |
Venemo | what's missing? | 19:59 |
djszapi | beford: to be honest | 20:00 |
djszapi | I have not even begun | 20:00 |
djszapi | but the UI draft is almost ready. | 20:00 |
Venemo | begun what? | 20:00 |
djszapi | minor adjustments needed | 20:00 |
djszapi | then I need to start coding the library | 20:00 |
djszapi | and then the application. ;) | 20:00 |
djszapi | Venemo: app for coding competition. | 20:01 |
Venemo | djszapi: and what app will that be? | 20:01 |
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beford | what are you working on djszapi | 20:01 |
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djszapi | beford: dictionary and translator. | 20:04 |
djszapi | with speech support of course. | 20:04 |
djszapi | (perhaps trainer integration later as well) | 20:04 |
beford | nice | 20:11 |
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Venemo_N9 | hey again :) | 20:12 |
bef0rd | hey | 20:12 |
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pa | M4rtinK, by the way i found the bug in my building chain :) but thanks for your template, maybe i will switch to sdist-maemo one day | 20:14 |
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djszapiN9 | Venemo_N9, w-h-e-n w-i-l-l b-e a n-e-w c-h-a-t-t-e-r r-e-l-e-a-s-e? | 20:25 |
djszapiN9 | available in ovi, ofc. | 20:25 |
Venemo_N9 | djszapi, the day after tomorrow | 20:25 |
Venemo_N9 | if it's good enough, it'll go to ovi | 20:26 |
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Venemo_N9 | sorry, my ISP is making me crazy today | 20:27 |
Venemo_N9 | either them or freenode disconnects me... | 20:28 |
beford | I tried communi from ovi, its nice too, but I prefer chatter | 20:28 |
Venemo_N9 | thank you beford | 20:29 |
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valdur55_ | I am having problems with QT SDK installing: "Error during installation process (com.nokia.ndk.tools.harmattan.sysroot):Execution failed(Unexpected exit code: 1): "/home/valdur55/QtSDK/Madde/postinstall/harmattan-postinstall.sh" | 21:02 |
valdur55_ | lol... my home disk is full | 21:04 |
beford | :P | 21:05 |
valdur55_ | I ignored this error and then got Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 21:05 |
Venemo_N9 | lol valdur55 | 21:07 |
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valdur55_ | :) So.. do i need download all items again? | 21:07 |
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Venemo_N9 | maybe, I'm unsure | 21:08 |
beford | I think it will just redownload the missing items | 21:09 |
valdur55_ | All items are downloaded. Problem is with installing :P | 21:09 |
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valdur55_ | Damn.. I need download all items again :/ | 21:10 |
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valdur55_ | On this thime, i download offline version.. | 22:05 |
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ZogG_laptop | beford: sup :) | 22:29 |
beford | hey | 22:30 |
ZogG_laptop | how ya doing? | 22:34 |
M4rtinK | pa: thanks ! :) I'll have to finally clean it up a properly publish it somewhere | 22:36 |
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beford | working | 22:50 |
beford | ;< | 22:50 |
ZogG_laptop | :( | 22:50 |
beford | i'll send you a deb later to see if you find it faster than the previous version | 22:52 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: problematic | 23:10 |
beford | why :| | 23:10 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: i have more torrents now :P | 23:11 |
beford | i'll put a "please wait" message just for you | 23:11 |
beford | xD | 23:11 |
beford | that will solve the slowdown problem | 23:11 |
ZogG_laptop | 1000+ is not much | 23:13 |
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ZogG_laptop | n950 pr1.3 leaked :) | 23:56 |
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