IRC log of #harmattan for Friday, 2012-08-03

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HtheBwho is |||||| ?00:00
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djszapi_HtheB: everybody00:08
HtheBgot a private message from |||||| telling me something about pr1.3 for N950 ...00:09
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rashm2kthank you djszapi_!!!00:10
rashm2kthere are too many methods to change! It would too much work which is what I am trying to get away from!00:11
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rm_workSo, has anyone figured out how to fix the super-annoying bugs in the SMS app with N950 + landscape mode with keyboard?00:18
rm_work(hardware keyboard)00:18
HtheBrm_work, nope00:18
arceanrm_work: the space between text entry and bottom toolbar?00:19
HtheBhave alook
rm_workarcean: among others, yes00:19
rm_workHtheB: yeah, also that, among *others* still :P00:19
rm_worki am used to just backspacing every smiley00:20
rm_workand it doesn't capitalize more than the first one if i type REALLY slow00:20
rm_workwhich defeats the point of having the hardware keyboard >_>00:20
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arceanHtheB: I  don't have this problem :P00:22
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rm_workarcean: really?00:22
arceanIIRC, but I'm going to check00:23
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khertan_djszapi_: the purpose isn't to reinvent the wheel ... didn't have time for that ...00:52
khertan_djszapi_: i'm just looking for the best wheel to use00:52
djszapi_... so what is the problem?00:55
djszapi_I told you the ingredients...00:56
paany idea how to serialize a QVariantList of QVariantLists (of QVariantLists...)00:57
pato a string or whatever00:57
paessentially a n-ary tree to a string00:57
djszapi_I do not understand what the problem is00:59
djszapi_isn't this trivial ? :)00:59
djszapi_fire up an output stream...01:00
pahm.. and?01:01
djszapi_and done?01:02
pahm ok, maybe it's easy yes..01:02
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wookhi ppl01:35
wooki am trying to make simple c app in qtsdk that will play with gconf, but: error: gconf/gconf.h: No such file or directory01:36
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wook*qt creator01:39
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jonniah, wook didnt want to wait for the answer :)02:06
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heymaster-laptopjonni: :)02:12
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jonnimaybe he googled for answer (PKGCONFIG += gconf-2.0 to .pro file), or he can google the channel log later :)02:17
heymaster-laptopnice :)02:18
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heymaster-laptopWhy signal is called twice ?07:48
ZogG_laptopElleo: just to be clear, you may nt get those 1000$ =)07:51
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Elleoyeah, I'm pretty dubious about that part ;)07:52
Elleobut I figure if people are desperate enough to lie about bounties just to get a better torrent client it might be worth hacking one together anyway07:52
ZogG_laptopwanted to post about it, but than i understood i'll be bad guy telling it07:52
Elleoand while a bit of extra cash certainly wouldn't hurt I mostly feed on praise ;)07:53
ZogG_laptopbeford: ^ =)07:53
ZogG_laptopElleo: beford is writting client for transmission for coding competition07:54
ZogG_laptopall is left to port daemon if someone wants it on n9.07:54
Elleoas in a transmission remote?07:54
ZogG_laptopElleo: are you good with MTF?07:55
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ElleoI wouldn't want to step on his toes if he's intending it to work as a full local client07:55
ZogG_laptopi want to try to write simple app withut qml07:55
ZogG_laptopElleo: you dont as altrnatives are always good, just saying. Just for me fake bounties are opposite from motivations =)07:56
heymaster-laptopok. fixed double signal. good :)07:57
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: how is it going?07:57
heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: looks more and more participants in contest :) but that's good for community :)07:58
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: i think in maemo area there was more activity. now everyone leaving the ship.07:59
heymaster-laptopat least for now i understand logic how to write qml + c++ app .. i'm passing data model to LisView. And learn how to make signal qml from c++08:00
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: good08:01
heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: yes. actually i writing app because of possibility to win :)08:01
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: i hope you win and write more apps =)08:01
heymaster-laptopat least port them08:02
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ZogG_laptopGAN950: i remember you being GAN900 =)08:03
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ladogado you guys have adblock working with fennec 13 from nokia store?08:48
ladogai have easylist enabled but no ads are blocked08:49
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ZogG_laptopit's weird i succeeded to connect with college wifi. they most time blocking jabber and irc =\09:35
ZogG_laptopthey blocking everything =)09:35
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ZogG_laptoprzr: ping10:32
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guruzThe power button of my n9 suddenly stopped working. i can only unlock the device by putting in the USB cable. did anyone experience something like this?14:17
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ZogG_laptopjonni: ping =)16:05
jonniZogG_laptop: pong16:05
ZogG_laptopjonni: sup man16:06
jonnisame old same old16:06
ZogG_laptopjonni: still had no time to try to upgrade kernel ( with diff and patches) but i was told that battery and gsm will not work on greater kernel(though no urels were provided), can it be the case?16:07
ZogG_laptopdamn it16:09
jonnisounds wierd, should work if patches are merger right, atleast I dont see any way it not to work16:09
jonnimerged even16:09
jonniunless there would be some api breaks in kernel modules, havent checked16:11
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jonniI dont think that anyone has even tried, atleast havent seen anything on TMO.16:13
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ZogG_laptopme too16:21
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Lava_CroftNow NokiaNL says my N9 will arrive early next week.16:22
ZogG_laptopjonni: i was little bit lazy and busy, went to college today(after missed 3 weeks) and found out that i'm studing Prolog. was shocked of syntax and why would someone learn it.16:22
ZogG_laptopthey switched C++ with Java from this year(for more mobile coding courses), but they have this? srsly....16:23
jonniZogG_laptop: heh my 1st programming course was in Scheme ;-)
djszapiprogramming is for weaks ;)16:26
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jonniafter Scheme all the other languages looked easy :)16:28
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ZogG_laptopjonni: we finished C(begining) and C++(begining) and little bit more advanced C. and there was assembler course i couldn't take co i failed binary systems(didn't make HW and he reduced my grade to fail)16:29
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paif i have a rectangle, and a label inside, and i want to anchor the label to the right edge of the rectangle, but with a margin, how do i do?18:05
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DocScrutinizer05woohoo infobot is back18:40
infobotDocScrutinizer05: :)18:40
infobot- Uptime for infobot -18:40
infobotNow: 24m 15s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux18:40
infobot1: 59d 8h 41m 19s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Sun Nov 14 18:39:57 201018:40
infobot2: 57d 3h 9m 23s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Fri Jun 26 20:39:27 200918:40
infobot3: 36d 20h 47m 14s running infobot 1.5.4 (SVN) -- linux, ended Tue Aug  4 17:38:59 200918:40
sivangre all18:42
sivangso, does anybody know if Harmattan's backup really backs up everything BUT DCIM and music ?18:42
sivangthe backup app did not have any options, as in to check which items I want to include in the backup hence I'm asking18:42
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MohammadAGYay, appsformeego stores password as plaintext in ini file19:12
MohammadAGsivang: I'd backup anything on MyDocs manually19:12
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befordplaintext is the way to go19:13
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qwazixpa: anchors: parent.right and anchors.topmargin?19:20
qwazixor topmrgin alone (don't remember)19:20
Venemo_N9qwazix, what's the question?19:21
sivangMohammadAG: thanks for the tip, I copied 'Documents' I can't see MyDocs19:23
befordits /home/user/MyDocs19:24
sivangMohammadAG: is it on a different dev than the one you can access through default USB connection?19:24
befordor the "whole" USB19:24
* sivang checks19:24
sivangfunny I used to know how to do that in the Maemo days, I used to make complete backups of it.19:24
Venemo_N9sivang, MyDocs is  what you see when using mass storage mode19:25
sivangVenemo_N9: right, so no need to ssh19:25
sivang(and scp)19:25
Venemo_N9sivang, unless you explicitly put something somewhere else, all your stuff is probably there19:27
sivangI'll ssh in just to make sure.19:28
qwazixVenemo_N9: it was an answer to pa's question but Im away from qtcreator and unsure, thus the question mark19:29
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qwazixrzr: ping19:32
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rzrqwazix, hi howdy ?19:47
rzrqwazix, about to leave for an hour or so ...19:48
qwazixhi, just a question19:48
qwazixdo dead keys work on your N950 hwkb?19:48
rzri havent check i am plain ascii guy19:49
qwazixyou know, like press accent key, then the letter and get accented letter19:49
rzrwill try latrer19:49
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qwazixdon't you write in french on N950?19:49
qwazixIn Greek I get an accent and then a letter...19:50
qwazixanyway, talk l8r19:51
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Venemo_N9~seen sfietkonstangin20:49
infobotVenemo_N9: i haven't seen 'sfietkonstangin'20:49
Venemo_N9~seen sfietkonstantin20:49
infobotVenemo_N9: i haven't seen 'sfietkonstantin'20:50
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rZr<qwazix> don't you write in french on N950?20:56
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rZri am used to qwerty20:57
rZrdont give a shit about accents :)20:57
rZrso i use e'  :)20:58
rZrdont laugh at me20:58
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djszapi_rigo: that is not so good.21:38
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rigodjszapi_, another question. Before wrecking my phone with pr 1.3 I took a complete rsync of the /home/user directory. But if I play back the directory for messages with the tracker database, it still doesn't show the old conversations. Any clue on how to play such a backup back?22:00
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shanttufacebook im availability keeps disconnecting. what could be wrong? no problem with empathy on my desktop22:53
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jonnirigo: if you didnt use tracker-control to make the backup, then most likely you dont have backup. It depends on what user and what capas did you run the rsync with, if runned with normal users then rsync didnt have read permission to tracker.db.23:28
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Sazpaimon_has anyone recieved the PR1.3 DVD yet?23:31
Sazpaimon_nokia just got back to me saying they sent mine23:31
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mlongSazpaimon_:  I've been out of the loop for a bit... what is the PR1.3 DVD?23:41
sigmaorionI'm trying to disable the swipe gesture in QML but QtCreator doesn't seem to know what "screen.allowSwipe" is!!23:41
sigmaorionI found this method here:
sigmaorion(not method, but a property of the screen, sorry)23:42
sigmaorionany sugestions?23:42
ladogamlong: sources for gpl stuff used in pr1.3?23:42
mlongladoga: That's what I assumed, but wasn't sure.23:43
itsnotabigtruckmlong ladoga: yep, that's it23:43
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itsnotabigtruckcontains lots of rather useful source but nokia keeps dragging their feet with the whole thing23:44
jonnisigmaorion: are you trying to run your app in harmattan pr1.2 emulator or something else? emu should have allowSwipe23:44
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sigmaorionjonni, nope, in the device23:45
ladogai received raspi today:D23:45
sigmaorionjonni, anyway, if I ignore QtCreator warnings, it gives a runtime error in the phone (N9)23:46
jonnisigmaorion: and you have added import line which includes it?  import 1.1 // includes Screen.allowSwipe23:46
sigmaorionjonni, yeap, I've done it23:46
sigmaorionthe runtime error is:  Cannot assign to non-existent property "screen"           screen.allowSwipe: false23:47
jonnimaybe pastebin your qml then23:47
sigmaorionsure! where to pastebin? I can't remember the URL, sorry23:48
jonnisigmaorion: or are you testing  that example directly?23:48
sigmaorionnope, I tried to use the property in my app directly23:48
jonniallowSwipe is only avail PR1.1 onwards, ie it doesnt work in PR1.023:48
sigmaorionjonni, my phone is PR1.323:49
sigmaorionanyway, QtCreator should "know" what "screen" is, right? It underlines the code in red...23:49
jonnimaybe test the example too, or pastebin.com23:50
sigmaorionthat is main.qml23:51
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sigmaorionwell, it seems to work fine if I place the screen.allowSwipe = true/false inside an event hanlder like onClicked!!23:58
jonnisigmaorion: yep, it needs to be in javascript block, like Component.onCompleted: screen.allowSwipe = false;23:58
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