| Khertan_n950 | but yeah clearly more difficult now :) | 00:00 |
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| Khertan_n950 | but i think we are still near the begin | 00:00 |
| Khertan_n950 | and yeah still no converging device | 00:00 |
| djszapi_ | that is luckily enough incorrect | 00:00 |
| Khertan_n950 | i think the future is here. Many devices same data everywhere | 00:01 |
| djszapi_ | people are quite happy with androids and iphones here | 00:01 |
| djszapi_ | tons of apps, etc | 00:01 |
| djszapi_ | they do not care about the background technology, if it is Qt or not. | 00:01 |
| Khertan_n950 | djszapi_: funny as i always has the feeling that there is missing apps or not well done in iphone | 00:02 |
| djszapi_ | a cool device with an excellent platform is good for developers | 00:02 |
| djszapi_ | but that does not bring money itself to the platform vendor | 00:02 |
| Khertan_n950 | yep | 00:02 |
| Khertan_n950 | and i think it s require some year to catch some market share | 00:02 |
| djszapi_ | what brings money from customers, if there are *tons* of *useful* apps | 00:02 |
| Khertan_n950 | djszapi try to look at a source code editor for iphone | 00:03 |
| djszapi_ | no, thanks =) | 00:03 |
| Khertan_n950 | djszapi: app store didn t have all possible apps :) | 00:04 |
| Khertan_n950 | there is many case where we clearly can see the apple store is for 'casual' users | 00:04 |
| Khertan_n950 | and android suffer a bad reputation today | 00:05 |
| Khertan_n950 | i just hope that this users will not go to bought winphone | 00:06 |
| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: can you help me ? | 00:07 |
| heymaster-laptop | don't know how to engineer app structure | 00:08 |
| heymaster-laptop | I need to set context of property in main.cpp ? | 00:08 |
| heymaster-laptop | ok i will try rewrite my app :) | 00:09 |
| djszapi_ | not atm | 00:09 |
| djszapi_ | am busy with qt patches and reviews. | 00:09 |
| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: ok. thanks | 00:09 |
| rzr | Khertan_n950, hi did you see quim gil pres at akademy ? | 00:13 |
| djszapi_ | rzr: I had a question at the end. Have you heard of that | 00:13 |
| djszapi_ | :) | 00:13 |
| djszapi_ | Nokia does not care about my request though ;) | 00:14 |
| rzr | 8Mhz cpu and 512kb of memory | 00:15 |
| rzr | amiga ? | 00:15 |
| rzr | djszapi_, yea i thought you were there too, but remind me what was the question about ? meego? | 00:16 |
| djszapi_ | rzr: just check out the last few minutes of the recording | 00:16 |
| djszapi_ | you will realize. | 00:17 |
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| rzr | no time now :) | 00:17 |
| djszapi_ | take your time | 00:17 |
| rzr | i am taking mine :) | 00:18 |
| rzr | and you not taking mine | 00:18 |
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| djszapi_ | rzr: let me know when you will have received your rpi. | 00:26 |
| rzr | sure | 00:28 |
| djszapi_ | rzr: if nobody maintains a separate app repository, then it is perhaps better to move screen and others back. | 00:30 |
| rzr | :) | 00:32 |
| rzr | let's do that yes | 00:32 |
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| djszapi_ | rZr: have you tried to call UPS to track your package, even if there is actually no tracking number. Perhaps according to the name, and so forth? | 00:37 |
| jonni | Im not that hopefull that rpi would arrive to finland this week... | 00:45 |
| rZr | djszapi_, then what ? | 00:45 |
| rZr | jonni, waiting for one ? maybe 50 qtonpi have it now | 00:46 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: I am not in Finland. :-) | 00:46 |
| djszapi_ | rZr: how do you know? | 00:46 |
| jonni | rZr: yep still waiting, seems that all other countries are getting them :) | 00:46 |
| rZr | pple uk recieved them | 00:46 |
| rZr | +from | 00:47 |
| djszapi_ | rZr: well, not really. | 00:48 |
| djszapi_ | you may mean "England", and especially "London". :) | 00:48 |
| djszapi_ | have not heard of Irish, Scottish, or Wales receives. :) | 00:49 |
| rZr | my statement is still true | 00:50 |
| rZr | as i could have said pple of planet earth did | 00:50 |
| djszapi_ | well, not really... | 00:51 |
| djszapi_ | since your statement should mean that our dude in Northern Ireland got it. | 00:51 |
| rZr | you should return to kindergarden | 00:52 |
| rZr | well anyway , are there owners around ? | 00:55 |
| admiral0 | rZr: i'm waiting for minr | 00:56 |
| rZr | djszapi_, some good news (or not) about the future : http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1246042#post1246042 | 00:56 |
| * djszapi_ hates good news | 00:57 | |
| rZr | nok will not screw the community | 00:57 |
| rZr | we can do it ourselves :) | 00:57 |
| admiral0 | :D | 00:57 |
| beford | hi | 00:57 |
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| admiral0 | hi :) | 00:58 |
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| djszapi_ | rZr: who cares :) | 01:00 |
| djszapi_ | beford: sup | 01:00 |
| beford | sup djszapi_ | 01:00 |
| beford | how is your android going | 01:01 |
| admiral0 | android? Lol | 01:01 |
| admiral0 | poor guy | 01:01 |
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| admiral0 | my n9 is being repaired and i'm with an android phone atm | 01:02 |
| beford | ew | 01:02 |
| beford | :P | 01:02 |
| beford | I need to get one though | 01:02 |
| admiral0 | it sucks ... | 01:02 |
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| beford | what do you use? | 01:03 |
| admiral0 | LG P-350 | 01:03 |
| djszapi_ | beford: it is ok | 01:03 |
| djszapi_ | beford: trying to get a blackberry. | 01:04 |
| beford | oh yea I saw the logs | 01:04 |
| beford | get me one too | 01:04 |
| beford | I would like to try qt development on that | 01:04 |
| admiral0 | not for me... | 01:04 |
| admiral0 | i had an openmoko freerunner. Openmoko is bankrupt | 01:04 |
| admiral0 | had a palm pre 2 | 01:05 |
| admiral0 | palm bought and destroyed by HP | 01:05 |
| admiral0 | then nokia n900 and n9. soon. | 01:05 |
| beford | get an iphone and help destroy apple | 01:05 |
| admiral0 | lol | 01:05 |
| ieatlint | well, i know where my next vacation is going to be http://www.korea-dpr.com/kfa_travel.html | 01:06 |
| djszapi_ | ieatlint: does not sound like a plan :) | 01:07 |
| admiral0 | ieatlint: interesting | 01:08 |
| ieatlint | if it didn't involve giving 3k EUR to a country that runs death camps, it'd be incredibly tempting | 01:11 |
| ieatlint | but alas, it's now only "pretty tempting" | 01:11 |
| admiral0 | 3k? | 01:12 |
| djszapi_ | gold | 01:12 |
| admiral0 | LOLNOPE | 01:12 |
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| ieatlint | not just 3k, 3k plus the flight to beijing | 01:16 |
| ieatlint | 2.4k for the trip (all expenses covered but booze), 500 EUR for the flight from beijing to north korea and back | 01:17 |
| ieatlint | and you get your own ticket to beijing | 01:17 |
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| nibbler | bef0rd: you don't get an iphone... in apple world, iphone gets you. | 01:52 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: found other qt app ported to N9. we had argument with guys. i said that in my opinion KDE can't continue develop Qt as it will ruin it | 02:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: sup man | 02:03 |
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| rZr | ZogG_laptop, what's up w/ rawcam ? | 02:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | rZr: it works from OBS, i helped him to build in OBS, he'll be back in few days and submit it to apps4meego =P | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok i need to go sleepy sleepy =) | 02:09 |
| rZr | ok good | 02:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | night everyone | 02:09 |
| rZr | nite | 02:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok 5 mins more | 02:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | last cig | 02:09 |
| rZr | ZogG_laptop, is n950 supported ? | 02:09 |
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| ZogG_laptop | rZr: what do you mean if it's supported? i think he had colours problem. you wanna try it? i can build last version if you want | 02:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | or even better if we find his build | 02:10 |
| rZr | push it to my place i'll install it | 02:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | rZr: btw there is tread of icons making, ask for new for redak | 02:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | bef0rd: and you for transmission | 02:11 |
| rZr | i wanted a svg one | 02:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85769 | 02:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | rZr: ^ ask there | 02:12 |
| rZr | once i port it to bb10 and others .. | 02:13 |
| bef0rd | cool | 02:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | rZr: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=rawcam&project=home%3Aqwazix&repository=qwazix_repo | 02:15 |
| bef0rd | havent worked on it, I fell asleep yesterday | 02:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'm going to sleep now =) | 02:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | night | 02:15 |
| bef0rd | night | 02:16 |
| rZr | ZogG_laptop, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1246266#post1246266 | 02:17 |
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| khertan | Morning | 09:54 |
| khertan | rZr, thx for the video | 09:56 |
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| gabriel9|work | i have gtalk on my N9 | 16:25 |
| gabriel9|work | but i also have other gtalk acc | 16:26 |
| gabriel9|work | is there a way to set itup with jabber? | 16:26 |
| gabriel9|work | anyone tried that | 16:26 |
| dm8tbr | should work | 16:27 |
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| gabriel9|work | any guide? | 17:04 |
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| Lava_Croft | gooooooogle | 17:15 |
| Lava_Croft | gabriel9|work: or easier: There are extra account plugins in OVI store | 17:15 |
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| Lava_Croft | haha | 17:22 |
| Lava_Croft | sips fighting honeydew inc | 17:22 |
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| pa | does someone know how to get the data stored inside a QBluetoothServiceInfo::Sequence ? | 17:25 |
| khertan_ | ouch just testing to rewrite KhtNotes without qt component for desktop ... it s a real pain ! | 17:32 |
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| Lava_Croft | owie | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | seems Nokia Netherlands has no idea about it's own online repair service | 17:47 |
| Lava_Croft | since they dont know what the status messages on the website mean | 17:48 |
| Lava_Croft | hihi http://twitpic.com/aecwrg/full | 17:49 |
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| Sazpaimon | nokia FINALLY got back to me with my PR1.3 source code request | 18:11 |
| Sazpaimon | after a month | 18:11 |
| Sazpaimon | did anyone else get the DVD yet | 18:11 |
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| Corsac | Hi, | 18:55 |
| Corsac | Your sources have been sent. | 18:55 |
| Corsac | We apologize for the delay caused by vacations. | 18:55 |
| Corsac | Thank you for your interest towards our products! | 18:55 |
| Corsac | \o/ | 18:55 |
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| whatsa | Corsac, is it PR1.3 GPL dvd? | 19:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop | ~ping | 19:21 |
| infobot | ~pong | 19:21 |
| djszapi | ~sup | 19:21 |
| infobot | Yo djszapi, how's it going eh? | 19:21 |
| pa | djszapi, question (to you that are an intern, and that might be interested in having it as a feature) | 19:23 |
| pa | is it now possible to have offline nokia maps accessible from qtmobility.location? | 19:23 |
| djszapi | I am unsure why you are asking this from me... | 19:24 |
| pa | according to this guy: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTMOBILITY-1116 , the plugin should be available somewhere | 19:24 |
| pa | (nov 2011) | 19:24 |
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| pa | and maybe with pr1.2 and 1.3, it even ended in the phone? | 19:26 |
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| djszapi | wow, the gentoo guys fixed an issue I reported four years ago... | 20:04 |
| djszapi | progress... | 20:04 |
| djszapi | pa: sorry, I am not involved with mobility. | 20:07 |
| djszapi | so really the wrong person to ask. | 20:07 |
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| pa | ok. maybe you knew something :) | 20:10 |
| rzr | djszapi, not today | 20:12 |
| djszapi | rzr: huh? | 20:13 |
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| rzr | djszapi, qtonpi | 20:43 |
| djszapi | rzr: unsure what you mean ... | 20:44 |
| rzr | no rpi for me in my today's mailbox... you asked me to report that | 20:46 |
| beford | mine still have around 4 weeks | 20:49 |
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| djszapi | beford: ? | 20:51 |
| beford | rpi | 20:51 |
| beford | I bought one | 20:51 |
| beford | :P | 20:51 |
| djszapi | rzr: perhaps you will get a charger alone | 20:51 |
| djszapi | after a long waiting | 20:51 |
| beford | there is no charger for rpi :P | 20:53 |
| djszapi | huh ? | 20:53 |
| beford | at least not included in the package | 20:53 |
| djszapi | power supply, what I meant. | 20:53 |
| beford | yea I know, it's not included you have to use your own | 20:53 |
| djszapi | huh ? | 20:53 |
| beford | so rzr won't get anything :P | 20:54 |
| beford | xD | 20:54 |
| djszapi | it *should* be in the box sent out. | 20:54 |
| rzr | so what is today news ? | 20:55 |
| djszapi | I will go home in few minutes. | 20:55 |
| rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1245888#post1245888 | 20:55 |
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| khertan_ | some do desktop apps with qml ? did you use qt component ? not available in debian stable for example, and on many os, did you have pure qml components ? | 21:45 |
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| djszapi_ | khertan_: yeah, many ... | 21:46 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: did you know some of this qt components ? i prefer to not reinvent the wheel | 21:46 |
| khertan_ | colibri look like unmaintained | 21:46 |
| khertan_ | i didn't know any other | 21:47 |
| djszapi_ | ofc ... | 21:47 |
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| khertan_ | ofc ? | 21:48 |
| admiral0 | khertan_: colibri? | 21:53 |
| khertan_ | admiral0: look like unmaintained and unfinished | 21:53 |
| admiral0 | colibri? what is that? | 21:54 |
| khertan_ | admiral0: https://projects.forum.nokia.com/colibri | 21:56 |
| rashm2k | what does this error mean? | 21:57 |
| rashm2k | qmetatype.h:169: error: 'qt_metatype_id' is not a member of 'QMetaTypeId<std::basic_string<char> >' | 21:57 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: isn't that obvious? | 21:58 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps, just for me :p | 21:58 |
| djszapi_ | show your code | 21:58 |
| djszapi_ | and the problem where it is triggered | 21:58 |
| rashm2k | return QVariant::fromValue(property_GlobalId); | 21:59 |
| rashm2k | property_GlobalId is of type std::string | 21:59 |
| djszapi_ | exactly | 22:00 |
| djszapi_ | and where did you read that std::string is a qvariant type? | 22:00 |
| djszapi_ | also, why don't you use the Qt string classes? | 22:00 |
| rashm2k | I'm trying to interact with a SOAP service | 22:01 |
| djszapi_ | that is fine, but why are you not using qt string classes for the qt api? | 22:02 |
| rashm2k | which I have generated XML bindings for using Axis2c/WSF2 C++ | 22:02 |
| rashm2k | and those bindings return std::string | 22:02 |
| djszapi_ | that is a poor reasining | 22:02 |
| rashm2k | becuase axis2c is not Qt based | 22:02 |
| djszapi_ | you do not listen ;) | 22:02 |
| djszapi_ | why are you not using qt string classes for the qt api? | 22:02 |
| rashm2k | I'm not that good at c++ thats why ;-) | 22:03 |
| djszapi_ | both are C++ ... | 22:03 |
| djszapi_ | stl and qt, too... | 22:03 |
| rashm2k | I'm not good at either... | 22:03 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qstring.html#fromStdString | 22:03 |
| rashm2k | Shall I explain my issue - perhaps you can help me come up with a better solution? | 22:04 |
| djszapi_ | just read the link above | 22:05 |
| rashm2k | I still think I could get some useful insight from you. Do you mind? | 22:05 |
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| rashm2k | ???? | 22:06 |
| rashm2k | that fixed it thanks | 22:07 |
| rashm2k | Well let me explain | 22:07 |
| rashm2k | I have a number of classes that interact with a SOAP web serivce. | 22:07 |
| rashm2k | once I make a call I get back objects instead of xml ofcourse (I'm sure you know this) | 22:08 |
| djszapi_ | yes, I know soap very well | 22:08 |
| djszapi_ | I wrote such services myself. | 22:08 |
| rashm2k | One particular class contains a list of elements I would like to expose to a ListView in QML | 22:09 |
| rashm2k | I'm talking to the right person then!!!! | 22:09 |
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| rashm2k | the snippet of code is the ::data(int) method of QAbstractListModel | 22:10 |
| rashm2k | its the switch statement here: | 22:10 |
| rashm2k | http://cdumez.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/how-to-use-c-list-model-in-qml.html | 22:10 |
| rashm2k | so my question is | 22:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan_: fixed utf-8? | 22:11 |
| rashm2k | what is the best way of acheiving integration between the QML and my C++ code. | 22:11 |
| rashm2k | For example each time a perform a getXXX which returns std::string | 22:11 |
| rashm2k | I need to convert it to a QString | 22:12 |
| rashm2k | which is inefficient??? | 22:12 |
| rashm2k | Can I just return std::string? | 22:12 |
| rashm2k | feel free to write the comments - I'm about to leave in 10 mins. I will read when I get back. Thanks! | 22:13 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: yep | 22:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan_: works fine | 22:14 |
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| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: it should | 22:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | and i think autorefresh works | 22:14 |
| khertan_ | 1.9 improve a bit sync conflict resolution | 22:14 |
| khertan_ | i was a bit too strict while using a time delta | 22:15 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: now, trying to do a desktop client | 22:15 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: in qml | 22:15 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: and i ve the feeling i'm reinventing a squared wheel | 22:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | =P | 22:16 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: didn't find any qml desktop component correct | 22:16 |
| khertan_ | they are unfinished, or unmaitained ... or just horrible | 22:17 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: but maybe i miss one | 22:17 |
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| khertan_ | i'm currently reinventing a scrollbar on text field | 22:18 |
| khertan_ | what a pain ! | 22:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | why not pure qt+python | 22:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | without qml | 22:18 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qbytearray.html#setRawData | 22:18 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: because ... | 22:18 |
| djszapi_ | this does not make a copy | 22:18 |
| djszapi_ | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qbytearray.html#fromRawData | 22:19 |
| djszapi_ | or this according to your will ... | 22:19 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: i ll like to try to have qml on desktop | 22:19 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: because qwidget has no future in qt5 | 22:19 |
| djszapi_ | khertan_ huh? | 22:19 |
| djszapi_ | which planet have you looked for qt desktop components in? | 22:19 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: gnié ? | 22:19 |
| djszapi_ | Three are at least two very usable sets. | 22:19 |
| djszapi_ | but sure, go ahead, and reinvent the squared wheel ... | 22:19 |
| djszapi_ | there* | 22:20 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: maybe i look at the right planet with too much closed eyes with baby which didn't won't to sleep | 22:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan_: not usre if qt5 has future as well :P | 22:20 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: have you a name ? i didn't find any in qt project.org | 22:20 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: propably because i don't use right search term | 22:21 |
| djszapi_ | no, I did not get one from my parents | 22:21 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: lol i mean of a qt lib :) haha | 22:21 |
| khertan_ | qt qml components | 22:21 |
| * khertan_ is really tired | 22:21 | |
| djszapi_ | 1) Plasma Components | 22:21 |
| djszapi_ | 2) Qt Desktop Components | 22:21 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: thx | 22:21 |
| khertan_ | will be better than loosing time to reinvent wheel with a stone | 22:22 |
| djszapi_ | 1) http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/plasma-qml-apidocs/ | 22:22 |
| djszapi_ | 2) http://qt.gitorious.org/qtplayground/qtdesktopcomponents | 22:22 |
| khertan_ | http://qt.gitorious.org/qtplayground/qtdesktopcomponents <<< there are for qt5 | 22:23 |
| djszapi_ | the qt5 branch is for qt5 yes... | 22:23 |
| djszapi_ | even if it does not sound logical... | 22:24 |
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| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: why are you mean? =) | 22:25 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: ah ... indeed... tired | 22:25 |
| khertan_ | :) | 22:25 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: thx | 22:25 |
| djszapi_ | just sleep then :) | 22:26 |
| djszapi_ | or make bhakti yoga | 22:26 |
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| khertan_ | djszapi_: both component aren't pure qml, they require that i compile them and package them for each target desktop (win, osx, debian, ubuntu, suse) | 22:33 |
| djszapi_ | huh ? | 22:34 |
| djszapi_ | no, they do not. | 22:34 |
| djszapi_ | 1) officially released stuff with available packages for any distributions, plus Windows | 22:35 |
| djszapi_ | 2) There are tons of people packaged them including me | 22:35 |
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| khertan_ | djszapi_: just an example still not in debian testing :) | 23:33 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: i think i ll do a quick ui with qwidget for desktop, and then make a qml one ready for qt5 | 23:34 |
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| djszapi_ | ??? | 23:39 |
| djszapi_ | it /is/ in debian testing | 23:39 |
| djszapi_ | 1) http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/kde-runtime | 23:40 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: really ? | 23:40 |
| khertan_ | ah talking of plasma | 23:40 |
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| djszapi_ | no, it is not | 23:40 |
| khertan_ | was talking of qtdesktopcomponent | 23:40 |
| khertan_ | :) | 23:40 |
| khertan_ | but yes plasma is | 23:40 |
| khertan_ | so lets go for plasma one | 23:41 |
| khertan_ | :) | 23:41 |
| djszapi_ | just because something is not in testing, it does not make your reinvention in debian testing even earlier than that... | 23:41 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: yep | 23:41 |
| khertan_ | djszapi_: but it can focus on devel and package only of my apps | 23:42 |
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| djszapi_ | yes, sure taking an already packaged project which is not in debian testing is more difficult than reinventing the whole wheel from scratch that many people have made for months... | 23:44 |
| djszapi_ | good job ! | 23:44 |
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