IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2012-07-31

jonniMohammadAG:   <- CardDAV sync from commandline.00:01
befordanyone uses tranmission torrent?00:01
ieatlintthe n9 also supports contact sync via exchange00:02
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ieatlinti use it with my google apps account... syncs email, calendar and contacts very nicely00:02
ZogG_laptopbeford: me00:03
ZogG_laptopbeford: are you wryting in python?00:03
MohammadAGjonni: That's not automatic00:03
befordyea ZogG_laptop00:04
jonniMohammadAG: you can finetune scripts to make it automatic :)00:04
beforddamn it00:05
befordmine will be cooler00:05
ZogG_laptopbeford: that one is not developed for a long time, take the core, make something usefull and cooler =)00:05
ZogG_laptopbeford: and u se transmission if you need tests or advices00:06
ZogG_laptopu se == i use00:06
ZogG_laptopbut i'm going to sleep now =) btw you may get help at off site or at #transmission chan00:07
befordthanks ZogG_laptop00:07
ZogG_laptopbeford: :P00:07
ZogG_laptopthere are different clients that are not official on off site as well, you can lurk thru code00:08
ZogG_laptopi bet there are python ones00:08
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befordyea i'll review some of them to check what are the most used features00:09
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ZogG_laptopbeford: i think the most important is the way to show torrents and orginize them00:10
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ZogG_laptoplike by date, size,tracker and so on00:10
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ZogG_laptopand than files(check uncheck low/normal/high priority)00:11
ZogG_laptopsearch thru them00:11
ZogG_laptopand add .torrent or link (magnet or .torrent)00:11
befordi'll work on that00:11
ZogG_laptopbeford: check web-ui00:11
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ZogG_laptopit's unusable on phone with over 900 torrents =)00:12
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ZogG_laptopand it shows only at alphabetic order =\00:12
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ZogG_laptopElleo: are you team?00:12
ZogG_laptopok night guys00:13
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ElleoZogG_laptop: yeah00:14
Elleoor at least normally I am, been taking a bit of a break from it the past couple of months to focus on work and my studies (and occassional mobile hacking)00:15
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heymaster-laptopwe winned first gold01:04
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djszapi_jonni: sup07:32
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ieatlintoh god, 90min without power really reminds you how little there is to do without power08:02
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ZogG_laptopieatlint: power is over rated08:31
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chem|stZogG_laptop: pong11:13
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: good morning!11:13
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: moaning11:13
chem|stparis is a construction site!11:13
chem|st"one" construction site^^11:14
chem|styou walk the stairs at some places and think "ah this place was nice last time" and you end up in the middle of a pit surrounded by fences and only a small path is available for you to leave11:15
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ArkanoiD_damn. Nokia failed the idea of merged contacts for unified communications miserably :-( and it is even worse in Harmattan and seems to actually have nothing with sync :-((12:23
ZogG_laptopchem|st: ping12:24
ZogG_laptopchem|st: do you have a link for some movie to test? i installed those packages from blog, wanna test if they work12:25
chem|sthmm... any mpg I had did not work12:26
chem|stonly mp412:26
ZogG_laptopdo you have few mbs movie you can send me?12:27
chem|stArkanoiD_: ehrm? first device I know where it works properly is n900, just all other services do not like additional fields in vcards...12:27
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chem|stZogG_laptop: email? 1.4MB12:28
ZogG_laptopchem|st: tell me when it is sent12:30
ArkanoiD_chem|st, so I am the only person who constantly sees "spontaneous unmerging"?12:30
ZogG_laptopgit it12:30
ArkanoiD_both on fremantle and harmattan?12:30
chem|stZogG_laptop: sent, that is my work email... please don't use as reference12:30
* ArkanoiD_ woders what could be so unique in my environment, just several online services configured12:31
ZogG_laptopchem|st: hmm, i keep private info private, and even has no idea how to use it =)12:31
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chem|stArkanoiD_: uh that unmerging happened to me with deleting and adding same account12:31
chem|stZogG_laptop: just do not reply to it, I haven't configured my personal email at work as I cannot set smtp by wifi on n912:32
ZogG_laptopchem|st: downoading on the phone =)12:32
chem|stArkanoiD_: spontaneous unmerging out of the wild is new to me12:33
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ArkanoiD_chem|st, I see it from the very beginning, from the first days of n90012:34
ArkanoiD_and there is no visible pattern -- unmerging contacts may be icq or may be gtalk or whatever12:34
chem|stand I had like 3xmpp+icq+skype+msn+sip configured12:34
ArkanoiD_or skype12:34
ZogG_laptopchem|st: doesn't wok12:35
chem|stI said there is something wrong as some of the stuff I tried should be in plugins-bad12:35
chem|stbut does not work12:36
ZogG_laptopdid you try only stock player?12:36
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chem|stopenplayer I tried too but that is actually a player based on the open code of the stock player12:36
chem|stvlc would be neat12:37
ZogG_laptopthere is vlc actually12:38
ZogG_laptopbut extra codecs would be better12:39
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i think i found right one12:50
ZogG_laptopchem|st: gonna try to install it on device before trying to package12:50
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gabriel9|workdid you saw this:
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: lol, i have no sb, so installing gcc on phone, soon we'll know if i succeed13:01
ZogG_laptopanyone has aegisctl deb?13:04
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ArkanoiD_gabriel9|work, at the end of the movie it is time for the girl to find him by the sound and kick shit out of him :-)13:07
gabriel9|workwell that will be if they use some closed system13:10
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: still here?13:28
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chem|stZogG_laptop: kind of13:47
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: can you paste gst-inspect-0.1014:01
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ZogG_laptopjonni: sup14:13
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ZogG_laptopjonni: howdy14:21
ZogG_laptopjonni: i installed ffmpeg and extra codecs, but it still not playing =(14:26
chem|stZogG_laptop: ?14:27
ZogG_laptopjust run command as user and paste output14:27
chem|stdon't have it14:27
ZogG_laptopas user?14:27
chem|stah path is not set right?14:27
ZogG_laptopi don't think so14:28
ZogG_laptopi have it from somereason =)14:28
jonniZogG_laptop: depends what you are trying to play, stock player is the only thing that uses dsp, all the 3rd party players like vlc only uses cpu.14:28
ZogG_laptopjonni: i want to find way to add extra codecs, starting with gst-plugins-ffmpeg and than maybe gst-plugins-ugly14:28
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chem|stZogG_laptop: I think they also cut out some stuff from good & bad14:29
chem|stread somewhere that things actually in good are not in harmattan's -good14:30
ZogG_laptopthe thing is how they use those with stock player14:30
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: can u paste ls -l /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/14:32
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jonniI once did play around with them 6 months ago, and compiled custom version myself with extra codecs, but then I lost my interest since all the media that I play works with default codecs.14:34
chem|stZogG_laptop: not atm, what are you looking for?14:34
chem|stjonni: all your media is mp4?14:34
ZogG_laptopi bet it would be mkv14:37
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DocScrutinizer51chem|st: so how's life?15:06
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ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: hey15:10
chem|stDocScrutinizer51: wedding in paris was awesome!15:12
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chem|st3days of work and I will be 3 days in hanover then 6days of surfing on fehmarn...15:13
chem|stan you?15:13
chem|stZogG_laptop: and you do not get the mpg working?15:13
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chem|sthow about that?15:15
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i think it's or stock player problem or i need to register plugin ( i found something about gst-register but i don't have it)15:16
ZogG_laptopchem|st: btw first video shows you thumbnail preview?15:17
ZogG_laptopchem|st: doesn't play15:17
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i have preview for first one15:20
ZogG_laptopchem|st: mplayer does play it on device15:21
chem|stso tracker is just using the plugin but player isn't15:21
ZogG_laptopor oposite and i need to register in tracker for player15:22
ZogG_laptopchem|st: http:/
chem|stZogG_laptop: gstreamer0.10-tools15:23
ZogG_laptopthe length is 00:00 btw15:23
chem|stah the tools package holds gst-inspect15:24
ZogG_laptopyeah - no register there15:25
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: paste tracker-info some.mpg15:28
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chem|stwhich part do you need? I have no remote connection so saving to file and export to desktop is not handy (does pastbinit work?)15:38
chem|stand I do not have a thumbnail, it reads all file information correctly afaict15:39
chem|stduration 015:39
ZogG_laptoplemme show mine15:39
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chem|stdifference is that the rdf tags come on later but that's about it15:44
chem|stthe test mpg shows right duration but does not play15:45
chem|stand no thumb either15:45
ZogG_laptoptracker info shows 0 for me too15:51
chem|sthow about ffmpeg instead of *colorspace?15:52
ZogG_laptopit doesn't find it15:54
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chem|styeah cause it isn't registered or something16:00
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phakothere's no decoder in that pipeline16:05
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: lol16:11
ZogG_laptopchem|st: did you install gst-tools?16:11
ZogG_laptopi launched it with gst-launch16:11
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ZogG_laptopgst-launch-0.10 -v filesrc location="/home/user/MyDocs/Movies/16:13
ZogG_laptopSputtering Simulation.mpeg"   ! decodebin !ffmpegcolorspace ! xvimagesink16:13
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DocScrutinizer51chem|st: me? I got holiday since monday, just nobody 'told me' :-S16:23
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DocScrutinizer51so maybe from Thur on I got a week off16:24
DocScrutinizer51go figure! marking those two weeks as vacation in planner, back in February, and simply forgot about it. What does that now tell about me and my job?16:26
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DocScrutinizer51chem|st: anyway enjoy your time16:27
qwazixZogG_laptop, hi16:31
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qwazix_900ZogG_laptop: my computer died of high temperature, hi again16:33
Lava_Croftcomputers still do that in 2012?16:33
ZogG_laptopqwazix_900: lol =) it's coz highlighting me is hot16:34
qwazix_900when it's 40deg C, they do16:34
qwazix_900ZogG_laptop: hehe16:34
Lava_CroftNokia Care said N9 would arrive today16:34
Lava_CroftGuess what happened16:35
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft: they will arrive yesterday16:35
Lava_CroftZogG_laptop: this was a repairjob, so LM16:35
Lava_Crofter :<16:35
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Lava_Croftnokia repair .// replace device16:35
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qwazix_900well, I made a big mess out of the git repo (rawcam) , but I think I fixed it. Could you please check if your changes are still there and pull it to harmattan if everything is ok?16:36
ZogG_laptopqwazix_900: beta4 or later16:38
qwazix_900ZogG_laptop: beta 4 was the big mess, but I pushed beta 5 today too16:39
ZogG_laptoplemme see16:39
qwazix_900pc refuses to boot... meh16:40
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ZogG_laptopkick it =)16:40
Lava_Crofti wonder16:41
Lava_Crofta PC that shuts down at 40celsius16:41
qwazix_900\me kicks ATX case and side cover falls on his foot with a rattle16:41
* qwazix_900 kicks ATX case and side cover falls on his foot with a rattle16:42
ZogG_laptopqwazix_900: push update to harmattan. i'll fetch from there, check and push fixed update16:42
qwazix_900Lava_Croft: the pc is a lot hotter16:42
ZogG_laptopthan merge it with your repo16:42
ZogG_laptopand your repo with PC =)16:42
qwazix_900ZogG_laptop: so bad?16:42
Lava_Croftmerge your PC with a fridge16:43
ZogG_laptopqwazix_900: nope, i just think, you didn't merged properly my commits16:43
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qwazix_900pc is alive :)16:44
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qwazix_900ZogG_laptop: push successful16:44
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ZogG_laptopqwazix_900: it builds in qtcreator?16:48
ZogG_laptopdid it fail in OBS?16:49
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qwazixyes perfectly, I don't know about OBS, I've never tried it16:49
ZogG_laptopi didn't change anything btw =)16:49
ZogG_laptopi think16:49
qwazixbtw how do you use OBS, need an account somewhere or something? Is it like maemo extras?16:49
ZogG_laptopkinda of16:50
ZogG_laptopyes make an account16:50
qwazixZogG_laptop, it was the permissions thing, it was building anyway, it just required develsh to run16:50
ZogG_laptopi can walk thru with you so you can upload to apps4meego (if they are not down anymore )16:50
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ZogG_laptopqwazix: i see. grey screen?16:51
X-Fadeqwazix: enabled your account.16:51
qwazixX-Fade, thanks, so I use credentials for obs?16:51
qwazixZogG_laptop, no didn't run at all16:51
X-Fadeqwazix: yep.16:52
ZogG_laptopqwazix: so wait16:52
qwazixX-Fade, kk16:52
ZogG_laptopX-Fade: is it up?16:52
ZogG_laptopnope =\16:52
X-FadeZogG_laptop: ?16:52
ZogG_laptopqwazix: how can i detect it's latest version?16:53
ZogG_laptopis there ISO additions?16:53
qwazixbeta5 has flash controls16:54
ZogG_laptopand iso16:54
qwazixiso is beta416:54
ZogG_laptopyeah and it works terrible btw =)16:55
ZogG_laptopjust pointed to dark and got 3200 and instead of reducing it it went to time and frame i think =)16:55
qwazixwhat mode?16:56
Lava_CroftSo i called Nokia Care about my N916:56
ZogG_laptopi put phone camera down and it went from 100-> 3200, when got it back it stayed 3200 and slowly picture got from grey to bright one with 320016:56
ZogG_laptopLava_Croft: and?16:56
Lava_Croftdude was happy to supply me with the IMEI of the *new* N9 they are sending me16:56
ZogG_laptopqwazix: P i guess, didn't change anything16:56
Lava_Croftif theres one thing Elop should change, its the whole Nokia Care thing16:56
Lava_Croftits such a mess16:56
qwazixZogG_laptop, can't reproduce, here it goes back to iso 30016:57
Lava_Croftdude hands me the IMEI while saying "this is for when burocracy fails"16:57
qwazixslowly, but it does16:57
ZogG_laptopqwazix: i can try later. anyway it works with qtcreator16:57
ZogG_laptopqwazix: try to make clean and build again16:57
ZogG_laptopand uninstall it from phone btw before16:57
qwazixZogG_laptop, why it works perfect? It was before your changes that it didn't work16:58
infobotqwazix meant: ZogG_laptop, why it works perfect! It was before your changes that it didn't work16:58
ZogG_laptopqwazix: i'm confused. does it work now?16:59
ZogG_laptopand if not what error and how you start? what is output in qtcreator and in console17:00
chem|stZogG_laptop: so it would actually play with ffmpegcolorspace but for some reason it does not!?17:00
qwazixI haven't been clear. sry. Now it works fine from qtCreator. Both builds and runs as user.17:00
ZogG_laptopqwazix: =)17:00
ZogG_laptopqwazix: you wanna try to build on OBS?17:01
qwazixyeah, why not17:01
chem|stZogG_laptop: got no video...17:01
ZogG_laptopchem|st: it needs decoder, you need to know what to decode and where to pass, it's like links of encoding/decoding and output to screen17:02
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i got a video =)17:02
chem|stso ffmpeg is needed for decoderbin17:02
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i think we need simply to register plugin, or check if it has more info on tracker of working files?17:02
ZogG_laptopdo you have onethat works in stock?17:02
ZogG_laptopit might be a problem they use as output not xv but dsp or how it calls17:03
chem|stit does try to decode but does not decode17:03
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ZogG_laptopi mean do you have other format video?17:03
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ZogG_laptopthat actually works17:04
chem|stbut then it would work with ovp as that is not using dsp17:04
ZogG_laptopor anyone here?17:04
chem|stZogG_laptop: those mp4 and a wmv17:04
chem|stthey play17:04
ZogG_laptopi think we need to register plugin but we dont have gst-register. or it's something tracker uses to set the decoder17:04
ZogG_laptopchem|st: can you check them with tracker-info and see if there is extra info there related ^17:05
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chem|stZogG_laptop: codec17:07
chem|stbut it seems to set the audio decoder with codec17:08
ZogG_laptopchem|st: it uses both17:08
ZogG_laptopi didn't try audio btw17:08
ZogG_laptopbtw with decoder output we can see what it uses. but it's complicated, as i have no idea how it really works, as i used google to find out decodebin17:09
chem|stcodec is audio17:09
chem|ston those mp4 it is some EAC-317:09
chem|stand the wmv shows some WMA Version 817:09
chem|stthere is no difference17:10
ZogG_laptopi think last lines are reversed order pipeline17:10
chem|stapart of codec which is audio17:10
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qwazixZogG_laptop, so where do I start toward appsformeego? It seems it is still down17:30
ZogG_laptopqwazix: did u get account on build.meego.com17:31
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qwazixZogG_laptop, X-Fade just said that he enabled my credentials from but I don't seem to be able to log in17:36
ZogG_laptopfor apps4meego17:36
ZogG_laptopi think17:36
qwazixok, I got it17:37
ZogG_laptopoh it's for build too17:38
ZogG_laptopdid you loged in?17:38
qwazixyeah, I needed to go to
ZogG_laptopyap, than to home project and than to repositories17:39
Lava_Croftthats some pretty pureview kitty!17:39
qwazixok, I created a subproject, is that correct?17:40
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ZogG_laptopqwazix: nope17:41
ZogG_laptopyou need specific repo17:41
qwazixok, what do I choose? Meego 1.2?17:41
ZogG_laptopgot to repositories -> add repository -> via advanced interface (link in top)17:41
ZogG_laptop MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan17:42
ZogG_laptoptype MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan in project field17:42
ZogG_laptopand than you can choose Maemo.org_MeeGo....17:43
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qwazixand I choose whatever name I want or is there a naming scheme?17:45
ZogG_laptopi left it as it is17:46
ZogG_laptopbut i don't think it's matter17:46
ZogG_laptopmine is MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard (armv7el)17:46
qwazixok, I chose qwazix_repo17:46
qwazixit seems ok17:46
ZogG_laptopwithout (armv7..)17:46
ZogG_laptopnow in Overview create package17:47
qwazixok, did that17:49
ZogG_laptopnow install osc17:49
infobotrumour has it, osc is Open Sound Control17:49
qwazixprobably not this ^17:50
ZogG_laptop Command line tool for Open Build Service17:51
ZogG_laptopbut this instraction for fedora or meego itself, it's rpm17:51
ZogG_laptopcheck in your repos of your distro17:52
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ZogG_laptopqwazix: add files dsc tar.gz that are made with script generate-obs-source17:54
ZogG_laptopand for apps4meego you need screenshots and icon17:56
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qwazixwhat apiurl should I put in oscrc config18:00 or
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ZogG_laptopi never touched it18:01
ZogG_laptopi just added repo18:01
ZogG_laptopentered created dir18:01
ZogG_laptopand added files and than commited18:01
ZogG_laptopjust commands in link i sent18:01
qwazixok, it works if I use interactive auth18:02
qwazixit gives 401 if I edit .oscrc file...18:02
ZogG_laptopso don't edit )18:03
ZogG_laptopyou need to enter password once anyway18:03
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qwazixhm, I have qtsdk installed in /opt, shall I edit your script?18:04
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qwazixehm, how do I save and exit in vi?18:08
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ZogG_laptopqwazix:  :x18:15
ZogG_laptopqwazix: sure you need, you need to point it right, i just has it in ~/18:16
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qwazixIt seems it built18:20
qwazixbut I see some things I don't like18:20
qwazixlike a kernel panic :P18:20
ZogG_laptoplink me to your repo18:21
ZogG_laptopkernel panic i think it's ok18:21
ZogG_laptopall you care is if deb was made and if it succeed or fail18:21
qwazixdeb seems to be out18:21
qwazixlet's test18:22
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ZogG_laptopif it works right, you need to submit to apps4meego repo18:23
ZogG_laptopbut just wait till its up18:24
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qwazixit seems that rzr's version number is understood as greater than mine18:27
heymaster-laptophow to check with Qt is network is reachable ?18:28
* qwazix hands ZogG_laptop a beer18:30
qwazixThanks :) it works!18:31
qwazixI'll push to apps4meego, but tomorrow I'm leaving for vacation so I don't know when that'll be18:31
ZogG_laptopqwazix: read at wiki to wich repo to push18:32
ZogG_laptopand about screenshots and icon18:32
ZogG_laptopyou need to add them there18:32
qwazixbummer is that before when pc crashed, I lost sources of my icon and I have to make it again, (I have only 80x80 png)18:33
heymaster-laptopqwazix: you made app for contest ?18:33
qwazixheymaster-laptop, yep, wanna try it?18:33
heymaster-laptopqwazix: don't own any harmattan devices :) Writing app to try to win device :)18:34
heymaster-laptopso sorry can't try at this moment :)18:34
qwazixheymaster-laptop, good luck, hope there's some stiff competition ;)18:34
qwazixwhat's your app?18:35
heymaster-laptopat least for now i don't have anything, just learning. don't know if i finish that app :)18:36
heymaster-laptopso don't have anything to show18:36
ZogG_laptopu will18:36
heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: thanks18:36
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qwazixheymaster-laptop, qt is a lovely dev-env so you'll learn fast18:37
heymaster-laptopqwazix: don't know. looks like for iPhone is most easier to develop :P18:38
qwazixheymaster-laptop, don't have a mac so I wouldn18:38
qwazixt know18:38
qwazixI have played a little with android and a bit with symbian18:39
qwazixI don18:39
qwazixshit, bad fingers18:39
heymaster-laptopI like objc more than cpp. cpp very big language.. hard to master18:39
qwazixI don't want to see any of those again in front of me :)18:39
heymaster-laptopandroid and symbian ?18:40
heymaster-laptopyou can develop with Qt for Symbian :)18:40
qwazixYes that is what I was trying to do, but I had to tap into symbian cpp for things qt didn't supprt18:42
heymaster-laptopnever tried but thinking symbian cpp sucks :)18:42
qwazixThe guy who made symbian cpp must have had serious hatred for the worlds developers18:42
qwazixIt doesn't suck, in fact it is robust and very powerful18:43
qwazixbut the guy thought that documentation is for noobs, and names must be as cryptic as possible18:43
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Sazpaimon__what's with the PR1.3 openmode kernel?18:50
Sazpaimon__is it just the PR1.2 kernel with the version number changed?18:50
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befordis it possible to register filetype/uris to use a third party app'21:11
befordI think i found it21:14
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gabriel9is it possible to edit qml while app is running23:26
gabriel9with qt creator23:27
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djszapi_any native English speaker lurking around?23:39
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mystinthe Drive app does speech, and I see there's a package called "gstreamer0.10-nokia-speech" installed. Can I do text-to-speech from an app I write for the N9 with any of this? (I've seen stuff from 2010 suggesting to install espeak or festival from third-party repos)23:43
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azeemmystin: I doubt Drive is using gstreamer for test-to-speech, this is a cross-platform (shared with symbian) feature I guess23:50
azeembut not sure23:50
mystinazeem: I wasn't sure whether what Drive does is internal to Drive or available to other apps23:50
mystinand I don't know how to find out, so I thought I'd ask :)23:50
azeemyou can try to see whether it's in the Drive QML code23:50
dm8tbrdrive uses prerecorded files23:51
azeemeven for street names?23:52
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dm8tbrdoes it do street names nowadays? my N950 is stuck with PR1.123:53
mystindm8tbr: ah, I wondered if it did. I couldn't remember whether it ever said things like street names; I know it says the names of UK major roads, but they might be pre-recorded23:53
azeemdm8tbr: depends on the voice pack, not all languages have it23:53
azeembut mine does23:53
mystinand I can't work out how to test whether it does street names without going out and driving around ;)23:53
azeemmystin: heh23:53
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azeemif I set it to any destination and GPS is tracked, it will tell the next street to turn at23:54
mystinif street names are dependent on the language pack, though, that suggests that it's still glued-together pre-recorded samples, not proper speech synthesis23:54
azeemit gets one street name wrong in my hometown23:54
azeemsame for the symbian app btw, IIRC23:55
mystinok, so... sounds like I can't steal the Drive app's speech ;)23:56
mystinis there another way to do speech?23:56
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mystinthat gstreamer nokia-speech package has a bunch of gst plugins, but I'm not sure how to test what they do, because I don't have gst-inspect on the n9, or the gst python bindings, so experimenting is difficult23:58
azeemmystin: well, check whether drive-qml depends on it23:59
mystin$ apt-cache rdepends gstreamer0.10-nokia-speech gstreamer0.10-nokia-speech Reverse Depends:   mp-harmattan-001-pr   mp-harmattan-001-pr23:59

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