IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2012-07-30

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robertjwThis is so basic, what am I doing wrong:00:00
robertjwcat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nick.list00:00
robertjwdeb harmattan/sdk free non-free00:00
robertjwapt-get install ruby00:00
robertjwE: Couldn't find package ruby00:01
jabisapt-get update after adding the new repo, of course00:01
robertjwof course00:02
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jabisapt-cache search ruby after teh update00:02
djszapi_it is not called ruby00:04
djszapi_it is called ruby1.800:04
robertjwright, it installed just fine along with irb.  Now I'm happy.00:05
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jabisthat's why searching the cache is useful00:05
djszapi_well, or checking the website00:06
djszapi_I have done the latter due to no hardware available :)00:06
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jabisfaster to check from apt-cache, when you're already hacking away :)00:06
robertjwahhh, it feels so much better now, with familiar tools at my fingertips.  Thanks guys.00:07
pais it possible to make something happen once one enters a value in a textfield?00:07
palike with Keys.onEnterPressed?00:07
djszapi_enter pressed ?00:08
djszapi_you are having a weird ui design :D00:08
djszapi_ -> but here you go anyway00:09
djszapi_oh, sorry, this is a wrong page.00:09
qwazixpa you mean onchange?00:09
jabisfirst hit on google x)00:10
pawhat i want is that when i enter a value on the text field, the value is stored somewhere00:11
painstead of needing a button "save options"00:11
paor something like that00:11
jabis more on events00:12
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djszapi_pa: well, that is quite a bad usability00:12
djszapi_from what I can say.00:12
padjszapi_, well, how would you do that?00:12
paspinboxes are not available in qml00:13
ieatlintpa: to actually answer your question, take a look at the onFocusChanged and onTextChanged signals00:13
djszapi_    Keys.onTabPressed: if (tabTarget) tabTarget.focus = true;00:13
djszapi_    Keys.onBacktabPressed: if (backtabTarget) backtabTarget.focus = true;00:13
djszapi_but I have done such things earlier.00:13
djszapi_perhaps there is a return version00:13
paah, onTextChanged sounds like it might be that00:13
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ieatlintthat will trigger any time a char is added/removed, not when a user finishes00:13
pano good00:14
ieatlint(well, not exclusively when they finish anyway)00:14
djszapi_why not just Keys.onXXXPressed: like I said above?00:14
payes, i have onEnterPressed() now00:14
paso you say thats the right way to go00:15
djszapi_I would hope for that...00:15
ieatlintyou typically don't want any big change to automatically happen when a user enters text but doesn't press a button or the enter key00:15
djszapi_the two links above are a bit out of the context00:15
djszapi_pa: check if you can constrain that to the relevant textedit component00:16
djszapi_I constrained that to my whole page in my fremantle player.00:16
djszapi_pa: but I do not still see why enter is preferred for a user in comparison with a nifty button.00:17
djszapi_on touch phones.00:18
djszapi_perhaps, you can do both, but I would complain as a user, I need to be hackish.00:18
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paphew.. settings page in place00:22
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pait takes ages00:22
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pathats what i wanted to ask00:22
palet suppose i want to dim the brightness of everything in my page00:23
palike text and images00:23
admiral0hello people00:23
djszapi_hello person00:23
pais it a viable option to have a black full screen rectangle semi transparent on top of everything?00:23
djszapi_pa why would you?00:23
djszapi_why not just opacity per stuff?00:24
pacoz it's faster?00:24
djszapi_show me the benchmark, please.00:24
pai mean, faster to code00:24
djszapi_which proves that.00:24
djszapi_but hackish.00:24
paand by the way, would it help consuming less battery?00:25
djszapi_so as for me, it is a complete horror and no go.00:25
ieatlintqml is hackish by nature :P00:25
ieatlintand he is right about that, individually compisiting several things with reduced opacity is less efficient00:25
admiral0djszapi_: <300:25
admiral0missed you00:25
djszapi_ieatlint: huh?00:25
djszapi_you are joking right?00:26
palet say i have my text "white", and i am already at lowest brightness level for the screen, if i dim the white further , by changing color, would it help decreasing battery consumptuon?00:26
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djszapi_since it is all managed by opengl context on Harmattan, you actually produce way more than needed.00:26
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djszapi_pa: do you really think doing more than needed will produce less battery consumption?00:26
djszapi_well, if your app is full of texts and only images, then perhaps the same, otherwise most likely not IMO.00:27
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ieatlintopacity is handled by opengl? my understanding was that it was all just raster00:28
padjszapi_, i plan to have screen always on00:28
pai want to have a sportstracker that can be used to monitor the training00:28
djszapi_ieatlint: even raster needs rendering00:28
djszapi_pa: ah, you are that guy ...00:29
djszapi_who was mentioning this few days ago. :)00:29
ieatlintyeah, but the opacity is done via software00:29
pa"that guy?"00:29
djszapi_so software does not need rendering ? :)00:29
pai almost done00:29
djszapi_pixel by pixel ?00:29
djszapi_so more pixels is more work? :)00:29
djszapi_pa: what do you mean by screen always on?00:30
ieatlintheh, calculating the opacity of 10 different objects is more clostly methinks00:30
pai mean that i want a monitoring screen showing real time hrm and gps speed and stuff00:30
djszapi_can you prove that with a benchmark?00:30
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ieatlintthat's a circular argument00:30
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palike if you would have this on the standby screen00:30
djszapi_ieatlint: exactly, the point, so until the need arises, doing nicely is better00:31
paanyway, the rectangle works00:31
djszapi_but IMO, it is even faster, even if this argument is "circular".00:31
djszapi_pa: no it does not00:31
djszapi_unless you only have texts and images, and nothing else00:31
ieatlintdjszapi_: the rectangle is simpler than going through all the elements and setting their opacity, or storing a central property that all the elements bind to00:32
padjszapi_, i also have switches, but they are dimmed too00:32
djszapi_ieatlint: disagree00:32
ieatlintthe rectangle part also allows more interesting transitions00:32
djszapi_if only texts and images are needed to behave like that, it is actually even incorrect00:32
djszapi_if there are other elements00:33
djszapi_and the requirement was not that "I would like to do for the whole screen"00:33
djszapi_"I would like to do for texts and images".00:33
padjszapi_, i would like to do it for everything on the screen that is not black00:33
djszapi_transition ... premature optimization :D00:33
ieatlintbah, why am i arguing on irc on a sunday when instead i can go argue with people in real life00:33
djszapi_ieatlint: because you are weak :p00:34
ieatlintaww :)00:34
djszapi_pa: well, it looks simple to me00:34
djszapi_if everything, rectangular, if not, not.00:34
heymasterbest way to call cpp method and return error dialog if there's error00:34
ieatlintbut i'm also an american, so i probably have a gun i can go grasp and tell myself i could do something00:35
djszapi_this reminds me that I would not like to go to the GSoC stuff in America :D00:35
ieatlintcome now, you too can get a gun if you come here00:36
djszapi_water gun because you are about to go to the beach, right ? :D00:36
admiral0i'm almost on a beach, and extremely drunk00:36
ieatlinti think admiral0 wins this sunday00:37
djszapi_well, it is not Sunday in Finland for instance xD00:37
admiral0i will be like this all week00:37
djszapi_so it is unfair to finns :p00:37
admiral023 mins and it's monday for me too :>00:37
ieatlinti think some finns might be having a bad week00:38
ieatlinthah, well, it's only 2:38pm here00:38
ieatlintby 11:38pm, i too will be quite drunk00:38
admiral0ieatlint: i know i know00:38
admiral0when i met you on IRC you were quite drunk00:39
ieatlintsounds about right00:39
admiral0djszapi_: where are you atm?00:40
admiral0ieatlint: u.u00:40
djszapi_admiral0: not sure :D00:40
admiral0djszapi_: stop being quantic00:40
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robertjwdo we have sources for /bin/develsh or is that closed?  and is there any reason not to set the default root shell to /bin develsh?00:41
rashm2khey guys00:41
djszapi_robertjw: yep00:42
djszapi_we do have00:42
djszapi_apt-get source ...00:42
rashm2kin PR1.2 we could install examples which showed various QML/QT elements in use, I can't install it anymore00:42
djszapi_ -> here you can see00:42
rashm2kany ideas where I can grab this from?00:42
admiral0djszapi_: nokia should release sources for the UX00:42
djszapi_robertjw: well, yes many00:42
djszapi_robertjw: develsh should be used only developer mode00:43
djszapi_ash is the default shell iirc00:43
djszapi_rashm2k: please stop using QT00:43
djszapi_it is Qt* :)00:43
djszapi_ieatlint will prepare the guns for this statement of mine ;)00:43
rashm2kokay i'll use qt00:43
rashm2kno need for caps ;-)00:43
djszapi_admiral0: who cares about nokia :)00:44
admiral0djszapi_: are you in jollamobile?00:44
djszapi_no, I dislike that00:44
djszapi_rashm2k: what examples exactly?00:44
rashm2kThere were installed via the developer options in the Nokia N9, I can't remember exactly.00:45
rashm2kbut it was just showing different qml widgets00:45
rashm2klike buttons, listviews etc.00:46
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ieatlintdjszapi_: i have better intolerances to kill people for than your apathy about nokia00:46
ieatlintlike batman fans or something00:46
rashm2kabit like this:
rashm2kbut on your Nokia N900:47
admiral0ieatlint: lol00:47
admiral0ieatlint: dude, where are you from, you sound finn00:47
djszapi_rashm2k: you can always check the widget gallery out00:48
pai have a slider in one page that has to change the property of the rectangle in another page00:48
pai guess i cant directly address the rectangle id.opacity, right?00:48
rashm2klink please?00:48
djszapi_pa: yes, you can00:48
paat least it doesnt work00:48
djszapi_you just need to instantiate the pages in the main.qml00:49
djszapi_and then you can refer to items that way.00:49
pahm.. but i do and it doesnt work.. or do i have to go pageid.itemid.opacity?00:49
paah wait00:50
djszapi_yes of course00:50
djszapi_qml will not know automagically which page you would like to use ...00:50
pamh.. bad design.. i call all the pages "top" :)00:50
pagood to know for the next time :p00:50
djszapi_yeah, just call them bottom00:50
djszapi_that will fix it :-D :-D00:51
rashm2kahh source code is here:00:51
pagood that refactoring works :)00:52
djszapi_and here you can find the mtf examples:
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panow i get:00:53
paqrc:/qml/meeTrainer/SettingsPage.qml:472: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: monitorPage00:53
pamaybe i dont instantiate it in main.qml00:53
palet see00:53
paah, its called differently00:54
paand no, the id didnt matter :)00:54
panow i recall00:54
djszapi_the id does matter00:54
payes, but i change it in main.qml00:55
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rashm2ksource code for that link?00:56
djszapi_change it in main.qml ?00:56
djszapi_what does that mean?00:56
djszapi_id should be specified there.00:56
djszapi_it is not changing, it is assigning.00:56
djszapi_but it is not QML, it is C++: MTF:00:58
djszapi_as for the qt components (qml), check out the demos and examples folder for meego:
rashm2kthats it00:59
rashm2kthe link above is what I want00:59
djszapi_ieatlint: still there?01:05
pashit i wanted to finish the app today, but it will take me one more evening i m afraid01:06
pastill have to add the recording01:06
djszapi_you do not need to rush01:06
djszapi_ieatlint: draft, but anyway:
ieatlintlooks fine...01:08
ieatlinti've been told that rim is handing out devices to devs a lot01:09
ieatlintgood luck :)01:09
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djszapi_yep, but I have been told today the dev alpha phone is a kinda crap01:09
djszapi_so the playbook might be a better target01:09
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djszapi_though, they have also said that, once the qt phone is out, they provide a brand new hardware with the released software to the developers owning now a dev alpha version.01:10
ieatlintmeh, i'm still convinced the future is with tizen01:11
djszapi_and with guns01:12
djszapi_and with bloody smells, plus cannibal corpses01:12
ieatlintnot sure about that second part about smelling blood and zombies01:13
ieatlintalthough the CDC, a gov agency, did release a statement insisting the zombie apocalypse wasn't happening after a few notable cases of canabilism01:14
djszapi_btw, someone told me that today, the labor union was eliminated in the US. Is that even true?01:15
ieatlintuh, no, it's not01:15
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ieatlintthe only thing he could possibly be referring to is a thing in wisconsin that happened a while ago01:16
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pawould someone be crazy if wanting to go to work in IT in the usa?01:50
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njsfpa: depends on the company and specific IT area03:08
njsfdjszapi_: unions, specifically teachers, utility (ie gas, electric, phone), truckers and steel/auto workers are still strong, but getting weaker and weaker03:10
njsfother professions are mostly non unionized03:10
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djszapi_beford: sup05:28
djszapi_njsf: ???05:29
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njsfdjszapi_: "btw, someone told me that today, the labor union was eliminated in the US. Is that even true?"05:47
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itsnotabigtruckdjszapi_ njsf: 'the labor union'? which one?06:25
itsnotabigtruckthere's a huge number of them and as far as i know, they're still around, and have been for a looooong time06:26
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njsfdjszapi_: I don't know, it was YOUR question06:27
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njsfoh sorry that was itsnotabigtruck06:27
njsfbut I just assumed djszapi_ meant general labor unions06:28
itsnotabigtrucki figured i'd just list both of you06:28
itsnotabigtrucki mean, it doesn't really matter to programmers since professionals aren't normally part of unions06:28
djszapi_well, they are06:41
djszapi_in Finland06:41
djszapi_beford: I wonder if I still have shell access to the Mac.06:41
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befordno you dont06:42
befordi swapped the hdd for a sdd06:42
befordreinstalled the whole thing06:42
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* djszapi_ should really finish the command line parser for qt506:49
* djszapi_ should really finish tons of projects06:53
djszapi_so we may need to pay 100 EUR for a jolla mobile developer device? Ridiculous.07:00
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robertjwLooking for "screen".  It doesn't seem to be in any of the repos.07:57
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Elleorobertjw: <-- this has a build of tmux08:10
Elleorobertjw: <-- screen08:11
robertjwexcellent, thanks08:18
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djszapi_robertjw: yep, I packaged screen back then09:25
djszapi_though, please do not ever use my repository09:25
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djszapi_use the community repository09:25
djszapi_so that link above is broken09:25
djszapi_rzr: why did you remove screen from the community repository?09:28
djszapi_I have added that a long ago. Please fix this, and the screen application back.09:29
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Lava_Croftit took me about 6 phonecalls13:42
Lava_Croftand 1.5hours of paying Nokia Care13:43
Lava_Croftbut i fucking finally know what they did to my n913:43
Lava_Croftthey replaced it with another one13:43
* Lava_Croft wipes his forehead13:43
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Lava_CroftNokia should stop hiring arabs that are hard to understand13:43
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paok please14:03
pasomeone help me.. how the hell do i get rid of the "download failed" problem?14:03
pait seems that, if for whatever reason a package fails to download once14:03
pathen no matter what, it wont download again14:04
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Hurriananyone else think tactile feedback on N9 is the best system you've ever used?14:19
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paits nice yes :) it would be even better if it would work with audio feed back too14:41
pabut on my phone there are someinterferences14:42
Lava_Croftpa: maybe the downloaded file is still somewhere14:44
Lava_Croftand it keeps trying to use it14:44
paLava_Croft, i removed everything in var cache apt archives partial14:44
pastill it doesnt work14:44
Lava_Croftreboot? i have no idea14:45
patried :)14:45
Lava_Croftreboot always sounds like a good idea! :)14:45
Lava_Croftyou are downloading via ovi orso?14:45
pahm.. store14:45
Lava_CroftOvi Store14:45
pais that the same?14:45
Lava_CroftNokia Store whatever14:46
Lava_Crofti have no idea where it keeps Ovi downloads14:46
Lava_Croftor partial downloads14:46
pathe partial failed ones were in cache/apt/archives/partial14:46
pathey are called *.FAILED14:46
Lava_Croftmy N9 is still at Nokia Care, so i cant check14:47
Lava_Croftwell, my N9 isnt, but the one they replaced it with is :)14:47
jonniand it depends what application your are trying to download, there are some which are currently known to fail everytime14:47
paand q to-do14:47
Lava_Croftopera should work14:47
paopera is an update14:47
pa(in my case)14:48
jonnilike firefox and opera usually fail to download from ovi store, because of version number conflict14:48
Lava_Crofttried removing opera altogether?14:48
Lava_Croftand installing clean from ovi14:48
pai could try to remove opera14:48
Lava_Crofti know that updating via OVI likes to fail14:48
jonniremoving will not help, you can only download them from web browser /download url14:48
Lava_Croftbecause ovi is just bad14:48
jonniits because some regions download link gives missmatch version of deb package to store client, which gives you download error message (as it doesnt know how to say "version missmatch".14:50
jonniyou can download it from commandline cli, but as that is undocumented feature, the official kludge around it is to download the deb with your pc:s web browser /download url.)14:51
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Lava_Croftwhat a fiasco14:53
Lava_Croftsymbian team built ovi?14:53
pai see14:55
pajonni, and how do i do that from commandline?14:56
pai mean, i dont even know which one is the ovi store commandline client14:56
jonnipa: sorry that one is not public information afaik :=)14:56
pai see14:56
paso im stuck not being able to update opera or installing q todo14:57
jonnibut its in the default firmware if you know where to look :)14:57
pahm well i dont :) im a newbie, im playing around with smartphones only since april :)14:57
paok maybe i see it14:58
pano, thats the gui version14:59
jonnijust use pc webbrowser, and open and   it will give you the deb packages15:00
paah thanks!15:00
pathats how u made ur little script :)15:02
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mf2hdso, how to install dyndns client in n9?16:09
jonnimf2hd: same way as any linux system?16:09
mf2hdso there is no ready package?16:10
pai'd stop using dyndns due to their ugly polithics16:12
pathey killed all my domains, coz those domains are not free anymore16:12
mf2hdwell, i did not mean especially dyndns16:12
mf2hdwhatever dynamic dns service would be fine16:12
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jonnimf2hd: for example inadyn compiles just fine for N9, and it supports dyndns,, and no-ip.com16:18
mf2hdk. ty. there is no ready .deb to n9?16:18
jonnimost likely no, I compiled it just for myself and didnt release any deb. But ofcourse you can just google around, if its in community repo.16:20
mf2hdwell, i'm not capable of compiling at the moment because crosscompiling is not in my skill list yet and installing build essentials directly to phone is atm broken i think. so it's a no go...16:25
mf2hdbut it would be very helpfull if there is some quick and dirty scratchbox compiling howto for harmattan16:26
mf2hdthx again...16:29
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phakomalfed my phone16:53
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jonniphako: heh, what were you trying to do?16:54
phakostracing sth and wrote strace -o /usr/bin/tracker-extract16:55
phakoand i crashed mz laptop#s usb16:56
jonniah yes, /usr/bin is immutable dir if you write there it malfs the device.16:57
jonniyou should have used /tmp or /opt16:58
paany advice for a free web hosting?17:01
pa(if any adviceable)17:01
jonniadvice is to get a paid one :-)17:02
pathing is, i dont want to open my geofiltering to the world17:02
paso i cant do it at home17:02
jonnifree, slow, full of advertizements vs paid, fast without ads.17:02
pai mostly need it to put on the webpage for the apps17:03
paand maybe my cv too17:03
paaltervista seems to work17:03
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jonnipa: might work, untill your cv page has pr0n ads next to it :)17:06
pait seems that altervista does not add ads17:07
paat least on the page i made17:07
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phakocould it just stay up like 6 seconds longer so I could reinstall tracker, please17:09
jonniphako: have you tested the no-lifeguard-reset option?17:11
phakounmalfed \o/17:12
phakojonni: I managed to download the pagage in one power-cycle and install it on the next17:12
phakoaaaaand my JPEG extraction issue is fixed \o/17:13
pado you guys know how to visualize all the IPs associated to a domain name?17:13
ArkanoiD_ what a crap17:13
phakono, still doesn't work17:17
phakodoes anyone know if strace changes some creds ?17:17
phakoJPEG extraction works when run inside strace and doesn't when without :-/17:18
phakoas root17:18
jonnithats your problem most likely, tracker should never be runned as root, if you run it as root, it most likely writes files in root permissions and system stops working, as all tracker processes are runned as user17:21
phakojonni: that doesn't write files17:21
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phakojonni: and it was broken before I ever ran it as root ;)17:22
jonniwhat are you trying to do exactly and what doesnt work?17:22
phakopictures taken by the camera are missing ALL metadata information since PR1.317:22
phakoand the reason seems to be that tracker-extract can't find a proper extractor17:22
phako/usr/lib/tracker-extract -f /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM/<any-jpeg>17:23
phakodoesn't work as user17:23
phakodoesn't work as root17:23
phakoworks when run as strace -o /dev/null  /usr/lib/tracker-extract -f /home/user/MyDocs/DCIM/<any-jpeg>  as root17:23
ZogG_laptoplol just found out that <esc><esc><esc> works like <tab><tab> to autocompete17:23
jonniby default firmware doesnt have tracker-extrack binary in system17:23
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phakojonni: yes, it has, it's in /usr/lib17:24
phako/usr/lib/tracker sorry17:24
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phakoand the problem isn't on every phone17:25
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jonnithat works as user just fine, so most likely you have broken it by running it as root17:26
phakojonni: no. It wasn't running as user before.17:26
phakoI only ever installed developer mode on this phone after I discovered that it does not work17:26
phakojonni: and as I said, it depends on the phone17:27
jonniwell Im running it as user and it works17:27
jonnibut if someone has runned it as root, then it might break the filesystem permissions17:27
phakoso out of a sample of 5 phones it fails on two and works on 317:27
jonnihave you tried stracing it as user?17:28
phakoit does a lstat64 on the file and then that's it17:28
jonniwhich file?17:29
phakothe jpeg to be extracted17:29
phakothe rest of the output looks similar. ON a work strace there's a open() on the file after the lstat17:29
jonniand is your jpeg files permissions corrent, owned by root vs user etc?17:30
phakowhatever the camera creates17:30
jonnido you have pastebin logs with strace and without?17:32
jonnibut anyways extract command should never be runned as root, as it writed the logs to dir that is only writable by user, so that will fail automaticly.17:35
phakoit doesn't if you run with -f17:36
phako-rw-r--r--    1 user     users       106968 Jul 25 23:52 tracker-extract.log17:36
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jonnithat wasnt that helpfull as it was missing stdout.....    devel-su; su - user; strace /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract -f pathtofile > /tmp/strace.txt 2>&1;  /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract -f pathtofile >> /tmp/strace.txt17:48
jonniif you can produce that kind of pastebin then its more helpfull to see users strace vs nonstrace17:48
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phakoand root:
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jonniphako: it really weird that tracker only shows one extractor, are you in PR1.3, one thing which might help would be "apt-get --reinstall install tracker"18:35
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jonnior might be corrupted mime.cache file.18:38
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jonniand ofcourse if nothing else helps, then full reflash with secure erase.18:38
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befordkhertan_: you are the one i needed =)19:13
khertan_héhé :)19:14
pajonni, can i load embedded fonts, with the font loader? e.g., qrc:/ stuff19:14
befordhey khertan_, how is it going?19:15
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khertan_fighting with my daughter who want to try to use my keyboard (8 months old)19:15
khertan_not easy to write :)19:15
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khertan_and just released khtnotes 1.519:16
khertan_if i understand you got problems with invoker19:18
befordoh I was able to fix that, I wanted to ask you some pyside and qml related questions, its about listview and abstractlist. its not updating the ui after I change it in the code, it updates it just when i scroll the list :/19:18
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khertan_did you use  beginInsertRows()  endInsertRows() beginRemoveRows()    endRemoveRows() ?19:20
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befordyea :/19:20
khertan_beford:    or beginResetModel() and endResetModel if you modify too much19:20
befordnot sure if i need to emit a signal or something from the Abstract19:20
khertan_beford: did you have some code ?19:20
befordI modify the whole thing :p19:21
khertan_i ll look it later19:21
befordyea its a bit long but I can send you the deb if you have time to try it19:21
khertan_time to give bath19:21
khertan_send it to my email i ll look19:21
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jonnipa: test and try. On some api's there are limitation that it cannot load from qrc, but I dont remember if font loader has that limitation or not.19:30
pajonni, ok, it seems not to work19:31
pathen im not sure what to do19:32
jonniwhy do you want to hide your font inside qrc anyways?19:33
robertjwis there a oneclickinstaller for N9 PR 1.3?19:33
pawell.. maybe it's commercial, and not redistributable19:34
jonnirobertjw: there is no once click installers for pr1.0, pr1.1, pr1.2, so what do you think :)19:34
jonnipa: well qrc is not protected in anyways, I've made me a little qrc extractor plugin which can dump the whoe qrc dir structure from binaries :)19:35
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pahm i see19:35
jonniofcourse it can slow the average user to find the font though19:36
pajonni, do you know if there's any way to load the font in memory, and tell FontLoader to use that instead?19:36
jonnipa: you could ofcource hide the font inside the binary, and then extract it to /home/user/private (that way only your app can see it)19:36
jonni(if app has app uid, then file in that dir is only readable by the app)19:36
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paactually it looks like it works with the fontloader19:37
pa(and qrc)19:37
pabut in source: i have to omit the qrc:/19:38
paanyway, in the simulator the font looks the same19:38
panow i try to deploy and see19:38
jonniare you using pr1.0, pr1.1 or pr1.2 simulator?19:38
pai have only one19:39
pa(not emulator)19:39
jonnipa: the old one was really back, I advice to use the sdk maintenance tool and fetch pr1.2 simulator, there ui layout and fonts matches the real device :)19:40
pagood tip, thank! even tho.. i ran the maintenace tool yesterday19:40
paand it showed me no updates19:40
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jonniit isnt a update, you have to seperately choose the simulator, as it was not installed by default, so its not going to be update19:41
pai see19:41
pai try19:41
pain any case, the font looks different on device, but i selected a condensed font, and it just doesnt look condensed, on the label19:41
paany idea why?19:41
jonniold simulator label didnt work right, thats why use pr1.2 simu and label matches the device19:42
pano i mean, on the device19:42
jonnihmm, device looks different on device compared to what?19:43
paok so i already have simulator 1.219:43
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paso, font on simulator looks different compared to font on device19:43
pawhich should be however condensed, and its not19:43
pano wait19:44
jonniso you have pr1.0, pr1.1 and pr1.2 simulator installed?19:44
pai think it just doesnt work19:44
pai have only simulator 1.2.0-719:44
paand i have emulator 1.0 1.1 and 1.219:44
jonniah sorry, I meant that emulator 1.2 is the one that you should use19:45
jonnisimulator is just obsolete piece of something.19:45
paah okay :)19:45
pait was just fast to see the results of qml :)19:45
pais it actually possible to "scale" a label only horizontally?19:46
pacoz i think the font is right, but is somehow "scaled to normal"19:47
paand it looks weird, coz it's a condensed font19:47
befordany idea why the lock screen sometimes shows the operator name and sometimes id doesnt19:47
jonnibeford: its a feature of composite layout drawing.19:49
befordbug? :P19:49
jonnibeford: feature, as its not critical bug, its called feature which is never going to be fixed :)19:50
pathe lock screens also always forgets that some messages have been read and stuff19:50
befordI thought it was a setting or something, I dont remember seeing it on PR1.219:51
befordkhertan_: beginResetModel and endResetModel worked :)19:52
paoh and by the way, for some reason my app does segmentation fault on the emulator (pr1.2)19:55
panot exactly sure why19:55
paon simulator and on device it works19:55
phakojonni: I've disabled the other ones with -m libextract-jpeg19:59
phakoand I've already reinstalled to "unmalf"20:00
khertan_oups look down : 40220:06
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pado you know if there's a way to have a number formatted like %03d, in qml?20:43
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piggznot much..tired after a weekend at a festival, just got a raspberry pi but too tired to do much with it!21:41
djszapi_heh lucky21:41
djszapi_as for me, it is still vaporware :D21:41
djszapi_not that the rpi could beat my pandaboard, but whatever :)21:41
piggzmine was from the #qt-onpi program...have a second on order21:41
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padjszapi_, do you by chance know if it is possible to package without deploying every time, in qtcreator?22:01
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pacoz it seems build builds but do not package22:01
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* djszapi_ hates QtCreator22:01
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djszapi_rzr: time for you to work22:05
djszapi_amend the screen package in the community repository that was removed for ... why?22:06
djszapi_people were looking for that application I packaged a year ago or so22:06
djszapi_but it is not anymore in the repository ..22:06
rzrdidnt you want to move to the application projectrs ?22:06
djszapi_uh buh doh yep22:06
djszapi_we should add that repository as well to the wiki22:07
djszapi_I totally forgot that22:07
rzri never felt the need for that one :)22:07
djszapi_well, 99% of the majority :)22:07
djszapi_is the majority*22:07
djszapi_ -> so where is that exactly?22:08
djszapi_well, everybody wanted except you22:08
djszapi_having a goliath repository is not healthy.22:08
rzrhome:rzr:harmattan:applications ?22:09
rzrdjszapi_: debian does have a single repo , actually 3 but depending on licensing issues22:10
khertan_djszapi_: is there a reason for not including python module in vim you did years ago ?22:10
djszapi_khertan_: who cares about python :)22:11
djszapi_but yes, tons ...22:11
djszapi_rzr: yes... and debian has 1000 developers ...22:12
djszapi_and tons of packagers...22:12
rzri am one of them :)22:12
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khertan_djszapi_: it s needed for many vim plugin22:12
djszapi_khertan_: python is in a crap state22:13
khertan_djszapi_: gnié ?22:13
* rzr loves the djszapi_ nuances 22:13
khertan_djszapi_: explain22:13
djszapi_nothing to explain, it is an axiom =)22:13
djszapi_half of the world uses python2, the other half python3, and a royal pain in the ass to walk this way22:14
khertan_djszapi_: lol22:14
djszapi_plus, we did not really have python packages22:14
djszapi_plus, we wanted to minimize stuff22:14
djszapi_plus, it was well proven with Nokia times etc22:14
djszapi_really not much need to make our life more difficult22:14
djszapi_for not much gain22:14
djszapi_someone has to maintain those packages ...22:15
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Venemodjszapi_, actually, more than half of the world either doesn't care about python or don't know what it is22:32
djszapi_Venemo: will you ever fix bugs in irc-chatter, or I just wasted my time ? :p22:33
Venemodjszapi_, I've already fixed a few of them :)22:34
djszapi_Venemo: useless if not released22:43
Venemodjszapi_, yet.22:43
Venemodjszapi_, rest assured that your time was well spent for the good of mankind22:44
djszapi_well, it was something like few months ago :-)22:44
Venemono, few months ago I said I didn't have time for it. now I've actually fixed some :)22:44
djszapi_no, I mean I reported those loooong ago22:45
djszapi_and I cannot still install a deb package, where any of those are fixed.22:45
djszapi_and nowadays, I do not use internet on my phone anyway. :-)22:45
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djszapi_bef0rd: o/22:59
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bef0rdhey djszapi_22:59
mon :)22:59
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djszapi_rzr: so where is the app repository?23:20
MohammadAGO_o the N9 doesn't support CardDAV23:27
nibblerfor syncing contacts there's just just syncml and the nokia service (didn't investigate further, probably syncml too) - but it works. i'm happily syncing mine against funambol.23:35
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paanyone interested in downloading contacts from multiple gmail accounts?23:42
paif so, i might release my app23:43
pa(via google api)23:43
jonniMohammadAG: it does, but from from gui23:50
payes, i read it actually supports a lot of protocols via libs23:51
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MohammadAGjonni: Huh23:58
MohammadAGI want to sync with iCloud23:58

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