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| beford | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/07/qml-support-for-window-decorations/ | 00:20 |
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| heymaster-laptop | beford: maybe you know what types dialogs harmattan supports ? Only like this http://cl.ly/image/0I0Z2p412c2U ? | 00:21 |
| heymaster-laptop | I would like transparent more | 00:22 |
| beford | I know what you mean | 00:22 |
| beford | QML dialogs are not transparent :/ | 00:22 |
| beford | maybe MohammadAG knows why, probably MTF are the ones with alpha | 00:22 |
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| heymaster-laptop | beford: so it's normal to use not transparent dialog ? | 00:23 |
| heymaster-laptop | :) | 00:23 |
| beford | yea | 00:23 |
| heymaster-laptop | beford: it's normal what dialog is black and not white ? | 00:24 |
| heymaster-laptop | :) | 00:24 |
| heymaster-laptop | because app uses white theme | 00:24 |
| heymaster-laptop | :) | 00:24 |
| beford | yea, dialogs are always dark | 00:24 |
| heymaster-laptop | thanks | 00:24 |
| Venemo_N9 | I think art some point, QML dialogs were transparent too | 00:24 |
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| Venemo_N9 | they were probably changed to optimise display power consumption | 00:25 |
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| heymaster-laptop | using black color is possible to save battery life :) | 00:25 |
| Venemo_N9 | yes | 00:27 |
| Venemo_N9 | on OLED displays, black uses less power | 00:27 |
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| djszapi_ | sup | 00:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | qwazix: ping | 00:37 |
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| djszapi_ | ieatlint: sup there. I forgot to ask a business card from the RIM guys... duh... | 00:38 |
| djszapi_ | do you have any such a thing from them... | 00:38 |
| djszapi_ | (at the QtCS, that is) | 00:38 |
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| heymaster-laptop | How to cast QString to QObject ? | 01:27 |
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| djszapi_ | heymaster-laptop: qobject_cast | 01:28 |
| djszapi_ | sorry, nope | 01:29 |
| djszapi_ | QString is not a QObject | 01:29 |
| djszapi_ | why would you need to do that anyway? | 01:29 |
| djszapi_ | it is like casting apple to orange | 01:29 |
| djszapi_ | you will need to use reinterpret_cast, if you would /really/ like to do that. | 01:29 |
| djszapi_ | unless there is a class inheriting both. | 01:29 |
| djszapi_ | so multiple inheritance with both parties involved. | 01:29 |
| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: I want return string to QML | 01:30 |
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| djszapi_ | heymaster-laptop: why would you need cast for that? | 01:31 |
| djszapi_ | just return QString? | 01:31 |
| heymaster-laptop | maybe i mistakenly read what QML supports only QObject | 01:32 |
| heymaster-laptop | will try to use QString | 01:32 |
| djszapi_ | you can even return a QStringList | 01:32 |
| djszapi_ | there is a "no issue". | 01:32 |
| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: thanks it worked | 01:33 |
| heymaster-laptop | just one question | 01:33 |
| heymaster-laptop | I selecting row in ListView and i get selected item with model.index | 01:33 |
| heymaster-laptop | How to properly pass model.index value to QueryDialog ? | 01:34 |
| heymaster-laptop | i can use global variables, but maybe it's ugly way or not ? | 01:34 |
| heymaster-laptop | ohh | 01:36 |
| djszapi_ | just use myid.index ? | 01:36 |
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| heymaster-laptop | I need to use Text { id: textstring text: "removed number " + model.index } | 01:36 |
| heymaster-laptop | or not ? | 01:37 |
| djszapi_ | or not | 01:37 |
| heymaster-laptop | no can't use myid.index | 01:37 |
| heymaster-laptop | :) | 01:37 |
| heymaster-laptop | or I will try :) | 01:37 |
| djszapi_ | why not ? | 01:38 |
| djszapi_ | it is a property of the stuff as much as any other property. | 01:39 |
| djszapi_ | you have the id for an item, so you can get the property | 01:39 |
| djszapi_ | What is the problem ? | 01:39 |
| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: Which element has property index ? :) | 01:40 |
| djszapi_ | for instance Selection Dialog | 01:41 |
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| djszapi_ | but essentially any element can have such a property, if you fire up | 01:41 |
| heymaster-laptop | the problem | 01:42 |
| heymaster-laptop | in listview delegate i have console.log(model.index) so it prints selected element correctly | 01:43 |
| heymaster-laptop | but in Queary dialog i have message: "Delete server named " + server.getServerTitle(model.index) model.index returns 0 | 01:44 |
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| djszapi_ | yes, of course | 01:45 |
| djszapi_ | you do not apparently still understand what I wrote above. | 01:45 |
| heymaster-laptop | yes | 01:45 |
| heymaster-laptop | :) | 01:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: sup | 01:46 |
| djszapi_ | heymaster-laptop: so what is not clear about having a selectedIndex property for instance? | 01:46 |
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| djszapi_ | or using the same model for two visualizations. It really depends on your use case, and cannot be exactly guessed from the few words you have said above. | 01:47 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: not much. I am thinking of organizing a KDE Blackberry Sprint, if I can get dev phones from RIM. | 01:47 |
| djszapi_ | I just need to find the right contacts, but I have not asked for a business card after talking to them at QtCS. :( | 01:48 |
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| heymaster-laptop | I have onPressAndHold: { property int index: model.index } | 01:56 |
| heymaster-laptop | Expected token `;' property int index: model.index | 01:57 |
| heymaster-laptop | near int | 01:57 |
| heymaster-laptop | don't know why | 01:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: save one for me :P | 01:57 |
| djszapi_ | heymaster-laptop: because you should before the closure of the brackets | 01:58 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: why would I? | 01:58 |
| djszapi_ | I am not doing this for charity for everybody. :-) | 01:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: i think as i get new work i'll buy playbook. now not feeling as spending money. want to try how is it and if i intent to learn more coding and qt how it goes there | 01:58 |
| djszapi_ | The "business" reason is getting KDE on bb. | 01:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: i was joking | 01:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | sure u can't | 01:58 |
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| djszapi_ | I am happy if we could get 15 phones or/and tablets. | 01:59 |
| djszapi_ | then I can /probably/ get funding for the sprint as well | 01:59 |
| djszapi_ | and it would be beneficial for both parties, most likely. | 01:59 |
| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: selectedIndex | 02:00 |
| djszapi_ | plus, we have a KDE Mobile Sprint every year around November in Berlin. =) | 02:00 |
| djszapi_ | I would not like to break this tradition. | 02:00 |
| djszapi_ | and I cannot come up with a better idea for not breaking that. | 02:00 |
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| djszapi_ | androis is still a toy and pita | 02:01 |
| djszapi_ | andoird* | 02:01 |
| djszapi_ | however it is spelled ;) | 02:01 |
| djszapi_ | Blackberry might be simpler since Qt is officially supported. | 02:01 |
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| djszapi_ | heymaster-laptop: well, it would be nice, if you do not paste half-sentences. | 02:02 |
| djszapi_ | but the let us know the whole setup and environment. | 02:02 |
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| djszapi_ | you did not declare a "selectedIndex" variable in the first place. | 02:02 |
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| djszapi_ | not as far as I can see above. | 02:02 |
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| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: http://paste.lisp.org/display/130737 | 02:03 |
| heymaster-laptop | reference code | 02:03 |
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| djszapi_ | hmm, you are doing it pretty messy... | 02:05 |
| heymaster-laptop | :/ | 02:06 |
| djszapi_ | why not have the property in the ListView? | 02:06 |
| heymaster-laptop | ok | 02:06 |
| heymaster-laptop | how to declare it ? | 02:06 |
| heymaster-laptop | i don't know syntax | 02:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: what about vivaldi? | 02:06 |
| heymaster-laptop | djszapi_: thanks. now it works :) | 02:08 |
| heymaster-laptop | property int selectedIndex to declare property | 02:08 |
| heymaster-laptop | selectedIndex = model.index << to assign value | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: that is an entirely distinct hing | 02:08 |
| djszapi_ | thing* | 02:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: but that's the way for mobile summit of KDE =) | 02:10 |
| djszapi_ | nope | 02:11 |
| djszapi_ | first of all, there is no such a thing like vivaldi sprint | 02:11 |
| djszapi_ | secondly, we did have Plasma Active sprint this year in Darmstadt | 02:11 |
| djszapi_ | thirdly, we do have one in Switzerland in September | 02:11 |
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| djszapi_ | what we do not have, is a potential to have KDE Applications on brightful phones from future point of view. | 02:12 |
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| djszapi_ | which the blackberry phone might satisfy. Who knows. | 02:12 |
| djszapi_ | but as for starter, at least, this system has an official Qt support which means a lot. | 02:13 |
| djszapi_ | so it would be a kinda "Blackberry Jam" for KDE. | 02:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | rzr: in redac there is no way to see .hidden folders | 02:14 |
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| rzr | ZogG_laptop: true I add this on my list once it is ported to symbian :) | 02:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | rzr: and theme is terrible(sorry) as well as i think dirs should be first and than files | 02:18 |
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| ZogG_laptop | night | 02:24 |
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| ieatlint | djszapi__: nope, have nothing | 03:32 |
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| heymaster-laptop | How to delete QML Page ? | 04:52 |
| djszapi__ | ieatlint: naughty you :p | 04:54 |
| djszapi__ | heymaster-laptop: sorry? | 04:54 |
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| heymaster-laptop | djszapi__: I have text in textfields. And pushing page again all fields are filled with data. I need to have empty textfields. Poping pagestack doesn't destroys QML page. | 04:57 |
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| ieatlint | djszapi__: naughty? | 05:01 |
| ieatlint | i've dealt with too many dying phone platforms.. i don't have strong urges to jump on another :/ | 05:02 |
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| heymaster-laptop | djszapi__: never mind. after poping page i wrote code to fill textfields with empty strings. | 05:10 |
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| djszapi__ | ieatlint: then just leave the phone industry :D | 06:23 |
| djszapi__ | cause this is how it is anyway | 06:24 |
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| ieatlint | djszapi__: i wasn't specifically in the phone industry | 06:34 |
| ieatlint | but by the end of the year, i'll have worked with no fewer than 6 failed phone systems | 06:35 |
| ieatlint | and that just gets depressing :P | 06:35 |
| ieatlint | also, i need to explain to roommates that when it comes to dishes and pots/pans, the word "clean" is binary.. there is no "mostly clean" | 06:36 |
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| djszapi__ | ieatlint: well, many of us do have interests in phones | 07:44 |
| djszapi__ | also, there was only 2 (?) failing qt phones so far, as far as I know. | 07:45 |
| djszapi__ | others do not matter for me. XD | 07:45 |
| djszapi__ | in addition, one of them (meeg) has really never mattered for me. | 07:45 |
| ieatlint | depends what you mean by qt phone | 07:46 |
| ieatlint | does symbian count? | 07:46 |
| djszapi__ | oh, well: Symbian was always b0rked | 07:47 |
| djszapi__ | the other big time waster project | 07:47 |
| ieatlint | ok, i can name qtopia and harmattan then as qt phones... maemo, symbian as phones that ran qt | 07:47 |
| ieatlint | and i was supposed to start doing some work on another qt phone, but about two weeks before that was to start, it famously got cancelled | 07:48 |
| ieatlint | (which isn't to imply i worked on maemo or qtopia themselves) | 07:49 |
| djszapi__ | well, qnx is not Symbian category | 07:49 |
| djszapi__ | it is not like insane | 07:49 |
| djszapi__ | so it is kinda the orange vs apple topic. | 07:49 |
| virtufant | oranges are better | 07:49 |
| ieatlint | yeah, but qt is a supported platform on rim just like qt on symbian | 07:50 |
| ieatlint | and i don't take pleasure in saying that i don't think it'll be around too much longer | 07:51 |
| virtufant | ieatlint: what phone was it that got famously cancelled? | 07:51 |
| * ieatlint shrugs | 07:51 | |
| beford | wp8 | 07:52 |
| virtufant | windows phone 8? | 07:52 |
| ieatlint | yeah, wp8 got cancelled | 07:53 |
| ieatlint | big news | 07:53 |
| beford | netcraft confirms it | 07:53 |
| virtufant | :p | 07:53 |
| djszapi__ | ieatlint: well, I do not take a pleasure in speculation either. :P | 07:53 |
| djszapi__ | well, like I said, insane Symbian and cool qnx are not comparable. | 07:54 |
| ieatlint | i've yet to use a qnx rim device | 07:54 |
| djszapi__ | plus RIM is not like Symbian when there were tons of parallel projects running. | 07:54 |
| ieatlint | i suspect i will come across one at some point.. | 07:54 |
| djszapi__ | if really, Jolla seems way more dead | 07:55 |
| djszapi__ | way, way, and way more dead | 07:55 |
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| ieatlint | i don't know anything about jolla beyond all the hype | 07:56 |
| ieatlint | rim is bleeding as hard as nokia though | 07:56 |
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| virtufant | isn't rim bleeding harder? | 07:56 |
| djszapi__ | well, Jolla is the stuff which thinks they can competite with other HUGE companies in the mobile sector. | 07:57 |
| djszapi__ | very reasonable. | 07:57 |
| ieatlint | uh, well, nokia switched to windows phone in large part to be competitive in the US. in Q2 2012, with two wp7 phones on store shelves, they sold 600k smartphones in canada and the us | 07:58 |
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| ieatlint | (which includes a few symbian phones, they only released "smartphone" devices sold) | 07:58 |
| djszapi__ | I was not specifically referring to MS obviously. | 07:59 |
| ieatlint | nokia is bleeding badly, and their most valuable thing now are patents | 07:59 |
| djszapi__ | they were unable to keep up with the really big competitors. | 07:59 |
| djszapi__ | but sure, Jolla will ... | 07:59 |
| ieatlint | heh, we could sit here for hours talking about nokia's missteps | 08:00 |
| djszapi__ | we do not need to. | 08:00 |
| ieatlint | they're many.. which isn't exclusive, all companies have impressive mistakes | 08:00 |
| djszapi__ | Jolla will change the world with few people ... | 08:00 |
| ieatlint | take a look at the microsoft kin phone from 2010 :P | 08:00 |
| djszapi__ | well, you have a misconception of talking about MS at phones. :p | 08:01 |
| djszapi__ | about* | 08:01 |
| djszapi__ | and*, meh, well | 08:01 |
| ieatlint | no, i just think that's one of the more hilarious missteps | 08:01 |
| djszapi__ | well, it is simple to swear about Nokia | 08:02 |
| ieatlint | anyway, i'll curiously watch what jolla does, but my expectations aren't too high | 08:02 |
| djszapi__ | but if you look at the reality, they have provided the best qt phones for quite a decent amount of period. | 08:03 |
| djszapi__ | Intel did not really provide any valuable for me. | 08:03 |
| djszapi__ | just for one random example of those ... | 08:03 |
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| beford | khertan_: ping | 09:49 |
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| ZogG_laptop | khertan_: simplenote doesn't show .hidden dirs as well | 09:59 |
| beford | go to sleep ZogG_laptop | 10:00 |
| beford | :p | 10:00 |
| beford | thp: ping | 10:00 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford: hey =( it's 10 here | 10:11 |
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| beford | 2am here | 10:11 |
| beford | checking old logs, I'm facing an issue that I believe khertan_ knows how to fix | 10:12 |
| beford | invoker is not launching python apps | 10:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | beford: and if you run from terminal and syslog says? | 10:13 |
| beford | havnt checked syslog, but from the terminal without invoker works | 10:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | try with invoker | 10:14 |
| beford | Exec=invoker --single-instance --type=e /usr/bin/transmissionr | 10:16 |
| beford | erm | 10:16 |
| beford | Jul 29 02:16:02 (2012) invoker[23937]: error: Lock reserved but no window id for binary name found. | 10:16 |
| beford | Jul 29 02:16:02 (2012) [23937]: Booster: Can't activate existing instance of the application! | 10:16 |
| beford | http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-11-23.log.html | 10:17 |
| beford | lets see if that helps | 10:17 |
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| beford | hah that did the trick | 10:18 |
| beford | well it seems so | 10:18 |
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| khertan_ | morning | 11:03 |
| khertan_ | ZogG_laptop: normal ... it s not KhtNotes isn't designed for showing hidden files | 11:04 |
| khertan_ | khtsimpletext dir reader should ... but for an unknow reason didn't | 11:04 |
| khertan_ | beford: do not forget to chmod +x your python file | 11:04 |
| khertan_ | beford: and the shebang at first line | 11:04 |
| khertan_ | #!/usr/bin/python | 11:05 |
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| djszapi_ | ieatlint: ping | 12:31 |
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| trx | ZogG_laptop just swipe it down (the keyboard) | 14:07 |
| trx | or tap on the "pencil" in the toolbar | 14:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | trx: doesn't work it triggers addon buttons on top | 14:09 |
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| trx | ZogG_laptop what does? | 14:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | there are white buttons above keyboard right? | 14:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | trx: ? | 14:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | trx: http://i.imgur.com/cq308.png | 14:42 |
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| djszapi_ | is there a good mobile hotspot application for desktop? | 15:17 |
| djszapi_ | or desktop hotspot, or whatever | 15:17 |
| djszapi_ | to connect to the desktop internet from my mobile phone for downloading stuff from ovi, etc. | 15:18 |
| faenil | djszapi_, OS? | 15:18 |
| faenil | Connectify for Windows, hostapd for Linux, those are the best options | 15:19 |
| djszapi_ | faenil: own kernel :p | 15:20 |
| faenil | lol | 15:20 |
| alterego | Do you use ubuntu? | 15:23 |
| djszapi_ | faenil: will take a look, thanks. | 15:23 |
| alterego | Network manager on their has a nice share internet connection option. | 15:23 |
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| djszapi_ | no, I do not. | 15:24 |
| faenil | alterego, but some OS (android, windows phone, Nemomobile) | 15:24 |
| faenil | don't see those networks | 15:24 |
| alterego | Yeah, nemo and adhoc networks is a PITA | 15:27 |
| alterego | Does hostapd actually create a proper infra network then? | 15:27 |
| alterego | Because that's awesome :) | 15:27 |
| faenil | alterego, yes it does :D I used it for connecting with those 3 OSes :) | 15:29 |
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| pa | faenil, is it possible that a laptop wifi does not support the mode? | 15:52 |
| pa | i tried both connectify and the alternative, for windows, and ubuntu option on linux | 15:52 |
| pa | i end up seeing the wifi, on the device | 15:52 |
| pa | (only with connectify, or maybe the other one) | 15:52 |
| faenil | pa, yes it is, iirc | 15:52 |
| pa | but connection doesnt work | 15:52 |
| pa | ah ok | 15:52 |
| faenil | mmm but that seems like a routing issue... | 15:52 |
| pa | thats why then | 15:52 |
| faenil | it shouldn't let you create the network if it's not supporter imho | 15:52 |
| pa | can it be coz the connection on the laptop goes through a vpn? but it shouldnt be a problem | 15:52 |
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| Arkenoi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BhFi86yjOz4#! <- funny video, why so much effort to mimic "nokia style" (even model number) for phone pseudo-replica that has no Nokia prototype? | 16:05 |
| mankeli | for some reason they are manufacturing that in china | 16:11 |
| mankeli | or were | 16:11 |
| mankeli | and nokia has made a prototype of the real thing | 16:11 |
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| Arkenoi | mankeli, no one actually seen a working prototype, so i doubt anyone can find fools who can be tricked into thinking it is Nokia | 16:17 |
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| ZogG_laptop | his voice remind me black jack somehow | 16:24 |
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| faenil | pa, don't know | 16:32 |
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| qwazix | ZogG_laptop, pong | 16:59 |
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| robertjw | Some important packages seem to be missing in the default repository. Like: ruby, irb, util-linux (fdisk). Is there a workaround for this? Another repository maybe? | 17:29 |
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| gabriel9 | day guys and girls | 17:44 |
| gabriel9 | I'm passing params to page which i push on page stack | 17:45 |
| gabriel9 | but PageStatus.Activating is not fired | 17:45 |
| gabriel9 | is there any other event which will be fired? | 17:47 |
| gabriel9 | on page show, active | 17:47 |
| heymaster-laptop | onStatusChange ? | 17:48 |
| gabriel9 | and for some reason params which i pass to that page did not show | 17:50 |
| gabriel9 | is there some magic var which contains all params passed to page? | 17:50 |
| gabriel9 | just to check if it's there | 17:50 |
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| gabriel9 | BTW, statusChange fires | 17:51 |
| gabriel9 | thanks | 17:51 |
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| pa | shouldi use a text field on a settings page if i want to le tthe user enter the age? and how do i catch when enter is pressed to dismss the keboard and save the value? | 17:57 |
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| gabriel9 | why don't i see variable in Page which i pushed using .push(page, {foo: "bar"}) | 18:48 |
| gabriel9 | Can't find variable foo | 18:48 |
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| gabriel9 | omg i need debugger :/ | 18:49 |
| gabriel9 | to se all variables | 18:49 |
| djszapi_ | faenil: hey :) | 18:54 |
| faenil | djszapi_, hey | 18:54 |
| djszapi_ | faenil: almost 35 kms riding from a week :) | 18:54 |
| djszapi_ | after 10+ years non-biking :) | 18:54 |
| djszapi_ | geek* | 18:54 |
| djszapi_ | it is not that bad I hope :p | 18:54 |
| faenil | ahah | 18:54 |
| faenil | djszapi_, I only ride my bike around the city, I don't go outside for a lot of kms :D | 18:55 |
| gabriel9 | tomorow you will die :D | 18:55 |
| djszapi_ | gabriel9: real geeks are immortal ;) | 18:55 |
| gabriel9 | yea :D | 18:55 |
| djszapi_ | but errr ... this sports-tracker app is nasty | 18:56 |
| djszapi_ | it publishes automatically to facebook | 18:56 |
| djszapi_ | on my N9 | 18:56 |
| gabriel9 | :D | 18:56 |
| gabriel9 | damn | 18:56 |
| djszapi_ | or well, perhaps I misselected something | 18:56 |
| gabriel9 | check this out | 18:56 |
| rashm2k | hey guys | 18:56 |
| gabriel9 | http://vimeo.com/46304267 | 18:56 |
| gabriel9 | :) | 18:56 |
| rashm2k | quick question | 18:56 |
| gabriel9 | shoot | 18:56 |
| rashm2k | I have two sets of lib folders | 18:57 |
| rashm2k | lib_arm | 18:57 |
| rashm2k | and lib_x86 | 18:57 |
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| rashm2k | how do I link against the x86 when running in the simulator | 18:58 |
| rashm2k | but arm when running on the device? | 18:58 |
| rashm2k | in the qt pro file | 18:58 |
| djszapi_ | should be automatical... | 18:58 |
| djszapi_ | you should not have arm on non arm target in the first place... | 18:58 |
| djszapi_ | maximum as a cross-stuff... | 18:58 |
| rashm2k | I have cross compiled these libraries | 18:58 |
| faenil | has anyone ever used SnapOneItem from ListView? | 18:59 |
| faenil | it's giving me a hard time | 18:59 |
| djszapi_ | snap what ? :D | 18:59 |
| faenil | :P | 18:59 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: yes, but those are usually in sysroot ... | 18:59 |
| gabriel9 | this whole qml stuff drives me crazy :D | 18:59 |
| gabriel9 | and it's 35+ C in my room | 18:59 |
| djszapi_ | 35+ LOC C code? | 19:00 |
| rashm2k | I think I need to explain | 19:00 |
| gabriel9 | no no, celsius | 19:00 |
| rashm2k | I have compile some libraries on my machine for x86 | 19:00 |
| djszapi_ | gabriel9: C is a programming language for us here xD | 19:00 |
| rashm2k | for running in the simulator | 19:00 |
| rashm2k | but cross compiled the same libraries for the device | 19:01 |
| rashm2k | so when QT builds it I want to have a conditional section | 19:01 |
| gabriel9 | damn, i need to take some c++ stuff and write apps in it | 19:01 |
| djszapi_ | Qt*, please | 19:01 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: you do not want | 19:01 |
| rashm2k | that says if building for arm then use lib_arm | 19:02 |
| rashm2k | if simulator use lib_x86 | 19:02 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: you do not want | 19:02 |
| djszapi_ | what you want is to have a clear lib path | 19:03 |
| djszapi_ | with the libraries in there for the given platform | 19:03 |
| rashm2k | okay | 19:03 |
| rashm2k | what do you mean? | 19:03 |
| djszapi_ | if build for A, pick up A libs | 19:03 |
| djszapi_ | if build for B, pick up B libs | 19:03 |
| gabriel9 | Why does it not break on my breakpoints? it does not give any error :/ | 19:04 |
| rashm2k | yes thats exactly what I want | 19:04 |
| rashm2k | gabriel9 maybe you are running in release and not debug? | 19:04 |
| gabriel9 | it's debugg | 19:04 |
| djszapi_ | gabriel9: bps are for weaks | 19:04 |
| djszapi_ | use printf | 19:04 |
| rashm2k | lol | 19:04 |
| gabriel9 | in qml? :D | 19:05 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: so you have two options: | 19:05 |
| rashm2k | oh | 19:05 |
| rashm2k | QML | 19:05 |
| djszapi_ | 1) something like sb, you have two entirely different targets | 19:05 |
| djszapi_ | 2) You use Madde or whatever, and when you cross-compile, you use sysroot | 19:05 |
| djszapi_ | it is that easy as that | 19:05 |
| rashm2k | you need to enable QML debugging and then compile the library - check projects on the left | 19:06 |
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| djszapi_ | gabriel9: yes, in qml | 19:06 |
| djszapi_ | it is called console.log | 19:06 |
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| gabriel9 | yea i do that | 19:06 |
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| gabriel9 | but my bloddy var is undefined :D | 19:06 |
| rashm2k | yeah QML debugging is crap | 19:06 |
| gabriel9 | and i pass it with .push :D | 19:07 |
| djszapi_ | no, it is not | 19:07 |
| djszapi_ | actually way simpler than native printf | 19:07 |
| djszapi_ | since you do not need to recompile. | 19:07 |
| rashm2k | Okay so what do I need to put in my qt pro file? | 19:07 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: nothing | 19:07 |
| rashm2k | i've seen sections that say if unix include xxxx, if symbian include yyyy and if windows include zzzz can I not do the same with my libs? | 19:08 |
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| djszapi_ | it does not matter, if you can or not | 19:09 |
| djszapi_ | you do not wanna | 19:09 |
| rashm2k | the libs are already compiled, I don't want to compile them again when I build my project in Qt - I only link to them | 19:10 |
| djszapi_ | apparently, you did not get the point from my writing... | 19:10 |
| djszapi_ | so how much experience do you have with cross-compilation? | 19:10 |
| rashm2k | zero | 19:11 |
| rashm2k | I only managed to install scratchbox for meego | 19:11 |
| djszapi_ | then please ask what is not clear about what I wrote above. | 19:11 |
| djszapi_ | You need to stick with a way | 19:12 |
| djszapi_ | either sb, or madde | 19:12 |
| rashm2k | what is sb? | 19:12 |
| djszapi_ | scratchbox | 19:12 |
| rashm2k | I'm writing for N9 - not maemo | 19:12 |
| rashm2k | oh | 19:13 |
| djszapi_ | it does not really matter how it is called from cross-compilation point of view | 19:13 |
| rashm2k | so what you seem to be suggesting is to compile in sb - but with different targets? | 19:14 |
| djszapi_ | well, I have never used the simulator | 19:14 |
| djszapi_ | I do not see the point in that personally. | 19:14 |
| djszapi_ | and probably QtCreator has better support for that, which means Madde. | 19:14 |
| rashm2k | well it works well for us newbiws | 19:14 |
| rashm2k | ;-) | 19:14 |
| djszapi_ | why do you need simulator? | 19:14 |
| rashm2k | deploying to device takes long | 19:15 |
| gabriel9 | it works!!! | 19:15 |
| gabriel9 | hell yea | 19:15 |
| rashm2k | plus /tmp is too small | 19:15 |
| gabriel9 | drinks on me | 19:15 |
| rashm2k | on device | 19:15 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: tmp is not small unless they decreased this recently.. | 19:15 |
| rashm2k | my deb file is too big to fit on /tmp | 19:15 |
| djszapi_ | but in any case, I would suggest deploying | 19:16 |
| rashm2k | it's 4mb | 19:16 |
| djszapi_ | you will have a few issues with the transient from simulator to device | 19:16 |
| rashm2k | such as | 19:16 |
| djszapi_ | I really do not know why you need simulator | 19:18 |
| djszapi_ | editing qml files is possible on the device directly. | 19:18 |
| djszapi_ | if you are doing smartly. | 19:18 |
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| rashm2k | simulator is easy to work with | 19:19 |
| rashm2k | maybe I just need a single statement in the pro file? | 19:20 |
| djszapi_ | no you need a lot of understanding | 19:20 |
| djszapi_ | the basics about cross-compilation | 19:20 |
| djszapi_ | because you keep repeating the pro file which does not really make too much sense unfortunately in this context :) | 19:20 |
| rashm2k | okay let me explain a litlle more | 19:21 |
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| rashm2k | in my pro file I have symbian:TARGET.CAPABILITY += NetworkServices | 19:22 |
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| rashm2k | which means when building for symbain it needs network access? | 19:22 |
| djszapi_ | so what? | 19:22 |
| rashm2k | so the pro file knows what your target is | 19:23 |
| djszapi_ | I am still not getting the point | 19:23 |
| rashm2k | that should be enough for me | 19:23 |
| djszapi_ | no, you are doing it wrong, really. | 19:23 |
| djszapi_ | if you wanna hack the pro file for linking against the same lib, but with different target type. | 19:24 |
| rashm2k | not quite | 19:24 |
| rashm2k | example | 19:24 |
| rashm2k | Meego Target will link against libs under lib_arm folder | 19:25 |
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| rashm2k | simulator Target will link against libs under lib_x86 folder | 19:25 |
| djszapi_ | I got the use case in the first case, but your approach is wrong | 19:25 |
| rashm2k | thats all the logic I need | 19:25 |
| djszapi_ | and I will not repeat myself. I have told how you can proceed. | 19:26 |
| rashm2k | I just don't understand that | 19:26 |
| rashm2k | I don't know why madde and sb are even involved in this process - I already have both the x86 and arm libs I need | 19:27 |
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| gabriel9 | can properety be object? | 19:55 |
| gabriel9 | json in fact? | 19:55 |
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| djszapi_ | gabriel9: that does not parse here | 20:02 |
| djszapi_ | translate* | 20:03 |
| gabriel9 | property string name; working | 20:03 |
| gabriel9 | property object human; does not work | 20:03 |
| gabriel9 | object is complex type | 20:04 |
| gabriel9 | i see not it does not support them | 20:04 |
| djszapi_ | I wonder where you saw object here: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qdeclarativebasictypes.html | 20:05 |
| gabriel9 | i saw them in my head :) | 20:05 |
| gabriel9 | short storry: i have some ajax req and then from js code i push page and pass it response object :) | 20:07 |
| gabriel9 | but as i see it there is no type Object | 20:07 |
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| gabriel9 | it can hold objects like variant, sweet | 20:37 |
| djszapi_ | well not really | 20:40 |
| djszapi_ | unless you have a C++ class which you register | 20:41 |
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| gabriel9 | damn | 20:49 |
| gabriel9 | will try it later | 20:49 |
| gabriel9 | now go for cookies :) | 20:49 |
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| MohammadAG | wow | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | I realized the thing breaking my app was a <3 in a status | 21:11 |
| MohammadAG | Qt thinks it's part of HTML code | 21:11 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 21:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: it probably treats that field as html then | 21:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | escaping ought to work, no? | 21:13 |
| MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, escaping the <3? | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | I use simple HTML to handle stuff in Sociality | 21:14 |
| MohammadAG | instead of designing customs labels where only part of it is clickable, I use <a href="profile://$ID"> NAME HERE </a> | 21:15 |
| MohammadAG | that makes NAME HERE clickable, and I handle the "link" in code | 21:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: <3 --> <3 | 21:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | all instances of & < > have to be turned into escape sequences | 21:17 |
| * alterego senses an injection attack .. | 21:17 | |
| itsnotabigtruck | alterego: heh | 21:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | fortunately it's probably harmless as i don't think qt labels do scripts and stuff | 21:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but it is a bug for sure | 21:18 |
| MohammadAG | I think there's a escape method for QString | 21:18 |
| MohammadAG | tmpMessage.replace("<", "<"); worked | 21:19 |
| MohammadAG | thanks itsnotabigtruck | 21:19 |
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| ZogG_laptop | qwazix: the ping was from yesterday | 21:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: that isn't good enough | 21:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you need to do all three | 21:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | doing < only is a non-solution | 21:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i think you just mentioned qstring has an html escape function? | 21:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | use that! | 21:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: sup | 21:43 |
| ZogG_laptop | knock knock | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | who is there | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | me | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | me who | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | me ego =) | 21:44 |
| djszapi_ | oh we got the first gold at the olympic games yay | 21:45 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i do not watch olimpics | 21:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | olympics | 21:47 |
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| MohammadAG | I don't get why the same code on Fremantle doesn't work on Harmattan | 21:47 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: what code exactly? | 21:48 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, youtube link fetching code | 21:48 |
| alterego | aegis? :P | 21:48 |
| phako | does it work no fremantle now? | 21:49 |
| phako | youtube changed a lot | 21:49 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, can't blame it here :p | 21:49 |
| MohammadAG | alterego, http://pastebin.com/rFYCrVZa | 21:50 |
| alterego | Interesting | 21:52 |
| alterego | How far does it get? | 21:52 |
| MohammadAG | DEBUG: "yVJnMj2oKfo" | 21:52 |
| MohammadAG | DEBUG: "Error: Unable to retrieve video" | 21:52 |
| MohammadAG | that far :p | 21:53 |
| MohammadAG | and it's immediate, not a network problem | 21:53 |
| MohammadAG | oh | 21:53 |
| MohammadAG | my fault | 21:53 |
| MohammadAG | apparently I didn't commit the new source fremantle times :D | 21:53 |
| alterego | heh | 21:54 |
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| pa | qtsdk (qtcreator) latest for linux | 22:14 |
| pa | why dont i have the "view" section for qtsimulator? | 22:14 |
| pa | it says i can change there the resolution and put it native | 22:14 |
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| pa | found | 22:25 |
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| robertjw | Where is fdisk? It's not in my N9 and it's not in the apt-get repo. How can I reorganize my flash without tools? | 22:50 |
| djszapi_ | robertjw: you have not made much research, have you | 22:52 |
| djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/u/util-linux/ | 22:52 |
| djszapi_ | but, aegis might be in your way, anyway. | 22:52 |
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| robertjw | Just got my phone yesterday | 22:52 |
| robertjw | djszapi: good link. perfect! | 22:53 |
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| djszapi_ | robertjw: I recommend adding that repository to your sources.list, rather than pulling case by case. | 22:59 |
| robertjw | you read my mind. I was just looking for the config file for adding repos. While I'm at it, are there other useful repos I should be looking at? | 23:01 |
| djszapi_ | yep | 23:01 |
| djszapi_ | the community repository | 23:01 |
| robertjw | now we are talking | 23:01 |
| djszapi_ | I could get you to all those links by off-hand, but perhaps better if you learn fishing. | 23:01 |
| djszapi_ | see the landing page in the topic. | 23:02 |
| djszapi_ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page#Development_Repositories -> essentially this part. | 23:02 |
| robertjw | perfect. I appreciate the jump start. | 23:03 |
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| jonni | I would not recomend adding that repo at all. But just to use sfdisk, since that is installed on the firmware by default. | 23:11 |
| djszapi_ | sure, you would | 23:12 |
| djszapi_ | many things depend on that from the community repository. | 23:12 |
| djszapi_ | also, I do not see a problem with the ncurses interface preferred. | 23:13 |
| djszapi_ | if something is used to that, etc. | 23:13 |
| djszapi_ | s/something/someone/ | 23:13 |
| infobot | djszapi_ meant: if someone is used to that, etc. | 23:13 |
| djszapi_ | it is still coming from the signed Nokia repository after all. | 23:13 |
| robertjw | sfdisk is not installed on my N9 | 23:13 |
| djszapi_ | robertjw: not even with developer mode and installations/ | 23:13 |
| robertjw | developer mode is enabled and I did all the associated installations | 23:14 |
| djszapi_ | yep, expected since it comes from the same package after all. | 23:14 |
| djszapi_ | so you can use your preference. | 23:15 |
| jonni | /sbin/sfdisk | 23:15 |
| jonni | its part of busybox, so if you dont have it, then your device should not boot up ;) | 23:15 |
| robertjw | hmmm, you are right, there it is. | 23:15 |
| djszapi_ | jonni: it is not part on my desktop though | 23:16 |
| djszapi_ | busybox | grep sfdisk | wc -l | 23:16 |
| djszapi_ | 0 | 23:16 |
| robertjw | strange that `find / | grep fdisk` did not pick that up | 23:16 |
| djszapi_ | robertjw: other version, if you mount your phone up to your host PC | 23:17 |
| djszapi_ | and you can fdisk available. | 23:17 |
| djszapi_ | get* | 23:17 |
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| djszapi_ | but util-linux is a better way to stick with fdisk, if you do not prefer sfdisk | 23:17 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps, it is a modified or very old busybox, but it is definitely not part of the recent busyboxes. | 23:18 |
| jonni | that command returns 0 on N9 too, it just is not mentioned on the help page :) | 23:19 |
| djszapi_ | robertjw: can you please make sure? | 23:19 |
| djszapi_ | dpkg -S /sbin/sfdisk ? | 23:19 |
| jonni | RM696-21-3_PR_001:~# dpkg -S /sbin/sfdisk | 23:20 |
| jonni | busybox: /sbin/sfdisk | 23:20 |
| djszapi_ | sounds like a bugreport against the busybox documentation | 23:20 |
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| jonni | its a seperate binary which comes from busybox package | 23:20 |
| robertjw | dpkg -S /sbin/sfdisk: busybox: /sbin/sfdisk | 23:20 |
| djszapi_ | in any case | 23:20 |
| djszapi_ | util-linux will override that | 23:20 |
| djszapi_ | with the "full version". | 23:20 |
| djszapi_ | in which case, you will have the other toys as well | 23:21 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps, this is not the only one you need. | 23:21 |
| djszapi_ | or perhaps busybox can achieve any wishes, I do not know the use case. | 23:21 |
| jonni | and normal warnings for the people who have had the device only for a day, if you add unsigned repositories, you can easily mess up your device. So my advice would be to study TMO a bit before adding new repoes. | 23:22 |
| djszapi_ | well, not quite | 23:22 |
| djszapi_ | the community repository has been used for ages | 23:22 |
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| djszapi_ | issues are everywhere, and actually more at other places. | 23:22 |
| djszapi_ | like hacking around aegis etc directly. | 23:22 |
| djszapi_ | I have not really had any problems the last one year or more with the community repository, and I am sure I am not alone. | 23:23 |
| jonni | yes community repoes are pretty ok, I was talking about harmattan-dev repo, which is only meant for scrachbox env and not to real device. | 23:23 |
| djszapi_ | you are not getting the point | 23:23 |
| djszapi_ | the harmattan repository is a dependency | 23:23 |
| djszapi_ | for the community repository | 23:23 |
| djszapi_ | since the harmattan repository was integrated into the harmattan target of the c-obs. | 23:23 |
| jonni | its a stupid depency. | 23:23 |
| djszapi_ | that does not matter, it is smart or stupid | 23:24 |
| djszapi_ | it is a fact, which will never be changed most likely. | 23:24 |
| djszapi_ | so if one would like to use the community repository, the harmattan repository must be present | 23:24 |
| jonni | in optimal world nokia would just release signed pr1.3 repo, and world would be much nicer place. | 23:24 |
| djszapi_ | sure, you would not like the reinvent the more many years put into the community repository. | 23:24 |
| djszapi_ | please do not start this all over again :) | 23:25 |
| djszapi_ | I went through this many times | 23:25 |
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| djszapi_ | was fighting with the stupid SDK team :D | 23:25 |
| djszapi_ | at many times | 23:25 |
| djszapi_ | I know the history behind this inside and out | 23:25 |
| djszapi_ | I was unable to get anything done on the SDK team side, and also on the c-obs side. | 23:25 |
| djszapi_ | yes, it is stupid, but this is the reality, bottom line. | 23:25 |
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| djszapi_ | and it is really not much of a burden | 23:26 |
| jonni | yes, I know that life is not optimal, people can use what ever repoes that they like. I was just triyng to say that if you only have had device for a day, and are not familiar how signed vs unsinged repoes might conflict, then some caution might be warranted. Its not like everybody should install developer mode & inception on the first day they get the device. Might be wise to study if they need it or not. | 23:28 |
| djszapi_ | everything is clearly documented, really. | 23:28 |
| djszapi_ | have been used for ages, people with one day | 23:29 |
| djszapi_ | if really, inception and other stuff are way more dangereous | 23:29 |
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| djszapi_ | because that plays the cat and mouse game with the security system | 23:29 |
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| djszapi_ | and the issue that can be revealed by this, and I reported on the day first when catching, is recoverable. | 23:30 |
| jonni | well yes, everything is clearly documented, but still not everyone know howto use sfdisk and fdisk on live filesystems so they wont corrupt and render device in malf cond. | 23:30 |
| djszapi_ | that is why I would not recommend sfdisk | 23:30 |
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| djszapi_ | but the one which the person is used to. | 23:30 |
| robertjw | I see that the harmattan-dev repo also contains my other "missing" package -- ruby and irb | 23:31 |
| djszapi_ | yes, that repository and the community repository are very useful | 23:31 |
| djszapi_ | and made many people get rid of packaging dependencies while developing applications. | 23:32 |
| djszapi_ | ideally, as for the device, the harmattan repository would not be needed | 23:32 |
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| djszapi_ | but it is a historical reason, which was never revamped, no matter how hard I pushed back then. | 23:32 |
| djszapi_ | but it is not like a very bad thing. | 23:32 |
| djszapi_ | the alternative is to get someone scrapping c-obs and rebuild everything from scratch | 23:33 |
| djszapi_ | which we do not really wanna do. | 23:33 |
| djszapi_ | to get the current somewhat stabilized took many months. | 23:33 |
| djszapi_ | I would not personally worry about this a minute. | 23:34 |
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| pa | is it possible to make a switch not modifiable? | 23:48 |
| pa | like greyed or something? | 23:48 |
| qwazix | ZogG_laptop, I think I finally fixed the git mess | 23:48 |
| ieatlint | well, i had no idea that the plural of stadium could be stadia | 23:48 |
| qwazix | But please have a look at it, are your changes still there? | 23:48 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: yes | 23:48 |
| djszapi_ | use the ternary operator | 23:48 |
| pa | ah right, so i always set to checked: false | 23:49 |
| pa | thanks | 23:49 |
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| ieatlint | that's a boolean that describes if a switch is checked | 23:54 |
| ieatlint | you want "enabled: false" | 23:54 |
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