IRC log of #harmattan for Sunday, 2012-07-29

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heymaster-laptopbeford: maybe you know what types dialogs harmattan supports ? Only like this ?00:21
heymaster-laptopI would like transparent more00:22
befordI know what you mean00:22
befordQML dialogs are not transparent :/00:22
befordmaybe MohammadAG knows why, probably MTF are the ones with alpha00:22
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heymaster-laptopbeford: so it's normal to use not transparent dialog ?00:23
heymaster-laptopbeford: it's normal what dialog is black and not white ?00:24
heymaster-laptopbecause app uses white theme00:24
befordyea, dialogs are always dark00:24
Venemo_N9I think art some point, QML dialogs were transparent too00:24
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Venemo_N9they were probably changed to optimise display power consumption00:25
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heymaster-laptopusing black color is possible to save battery life :)00:25
Venemo_N9on OLED displays, black uses less power00:27
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ZogG_laptopqwazix: ping00:37
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djszapi_ieatlint: sup there. I forgot to ask a business card from the RIM guys... duh...00:38
djszapi_do you have any such a thing from them...00:38
djszapi_(at the QtCS, that is)00:38
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heymaster-laptopHow to cast QString to QObject ?01:27
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djszapi_heymaster-laptop: qobject_cast01:28
djszapi_sorry, nope01:29
djszapi_QString is not a QObject01:29
djszapi_why would you need to do that anyway?01:29
djszapi_it is like casting apple to orange01:29
djszapi_you will need to use reinterpret_cast, if you would /really/ like to do that.01:29
djszapi_unless there is a class inheriting both.01:29
djszapi_so multiple inheritance with both parties involved.01:29
heymaster-laptopdjszapi_: I want return string to QML01:30
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djszapi_heymaster-laptop: why would you need cast for that?01:31
djszapi_just return QString?01:31
heymaster-laptopmaybe i mistakenly read what QML supports only QObject01:32
heymaster-laptopwill try to use QString01:32
djszapi_you can even return a QStringList01:32
djszapi_there is a "no issue".01:32
heymaster-laptopdjszapi_: thanks it worked01:33
heymaster-laptopjust one question01:33
heymaster-laptopI selecting row in ListView and i get selected item with model.index01:33
heymaster-laptopHow to properly pass model.index value to QueryDialog ?01:34
heymaster-laptopi can use global variables, but maybe it's ugly way or not ?01:34
djszapi_just use myid.index ?01:36
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heymaster-laptopI need to use Text { id: textstring text: "removed number " + model.index }01:36
heymaster-laptopor not ?01:37
djszapi_or not01:37
heymaster-laptopno can't use myid.index01:37
heymaster-laptopor I will try :)01:37
djszapi_why not ?01:38
djszapi_it is a property of the stuff as much as any other property.01:39
djszapi_you have the id for an item, so you can get the property01:39
djszapi_What is the problem ?01:39
heymaster-laptopdjszapi_: Which element has property index ? :)01:40
djszapi_for instance Selection Dialog01:41
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djszapi_but essentially any element can have such a property, if you fire up01:41
heymaster-laptopthe problem01:42
heymaster-laptopin listview delegate i have console.log(model.index) so it prints selected element correctly01:43
heymaster-laptopbut in Queary dialog i have message: "Delete server named " + server.getServerTitle(model.index) model.index returns 001:44
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djszapi_yes, of course01:45
djszapi_you do not apparently still understand what I wrote above.01:45
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: sup01:46
djszapi_heymaster-laptop: so what is not clear about having a selectedIndex property for instance?01:46
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djszapi_or using the same model for two visualizations. It really depends on your use case, and cannot be exactly guessed from the few words you have said above.01:47
djszapi_ZogG_laptop: not much. I am thinking of organizing a KDE Blackberry Sprint, if I can get dev phones from RIM.01:47
djszapi_I just need to find the right contacts, but I have not asked for a business card after talking to them at QtCS. :(01:48
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heymaster-laptopI have onPressAndHold: { property int index: model.index }01:56
heymaster-laptopExpected token `;'  property int index: model.index01:57
heymaster-laptopnear int01:57
heymaster-laptopdon't know why01:57
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ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: save one for me :P01:57
djszapi_heymaster-laptop: because you should before the closure of the brackets01:58
djszapi_ZogG_laptop: why would I?01:58
djszapi_I am not doing this for charity for everybody. :-)01:58
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: i think as i get new work i'll buy playbook. now not feeling as spending money. want to try how is it and if i intent to learn more coding and qt how it goes there01:58
djszapi_The "business" reason is getting KDE on bb.01:58
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: i was joking01:58
ZogG_laptopsure u can't01:58
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djszapi_I am happy if we could get 15 phones or/and tablets.01:59
djszapi_then I can /probably/ get funding for the sprint as well01:59
djszapi_and it would be beneficial for both parties, most likely.01:59
heymaster-laptopdjszapi_: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: selectedIndex02:00
djszapi_plus, we have a KDE Mobile Sprint every year around November in Berlin. =)02:00
djszapi_I would not like to break this tradition.02:00
djszapi_and I cannot come up with a better idea for not breaking that.02:00
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djszapi_androis is still a toy and pita02:01
djszapi_however it is spelled ;)02:01
djszapi_Blackberry might be simpler since Qt is officially supported.02:01
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djszapi_heymaster-laptop: well, it would be nice, if you do not paste half-sentences.02:02
djszapi_but the let us know the whole setup and environment.02:02
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djszapi_you did not declare a "selectedIndex" variable in the first place.02:02
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djszapi_not as far as I can see above.02:02
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heymaster-laptopreference code02:03
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djszapi_hmm, you are doing it pretty messy...02:05
djszapi_why not have the property in the ListView?02:06
heymaster-laptophow to declare it ?02:06
heymaster-laptopi don't know syntax02:06
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: what about vivaldi?02:06
heymaster-laptopdjszapi_: thanks. now it works :)02:08
heymaster-laptopproperty int selectedIndex to declare property02:08
heymaster-laptopselectedIndex = model.index << to assign value02:08
djszapi_ZogG_laptop: that is an entirely distinct hing02:08
ZogG_laptopdjszapi_: but that's the way for mobile summit of KDE =)02:10
djszapi_first of all, there is no such a thing like vivaldi sprint02:11
djszapi_secondly, we did have Plasma Active sprint this year in Darmstadt02:11
djszapi_thirdly, we do have one in Switzerland in September02:11
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djszapi_what we do not have, is a potential to have KDE Applications on brightful phones from future point of view.02:12
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djszapi_which the blackberry phone might satisfy. Who knows.02:12
djszapi_but as for starter, at least, this system has an official Qt support which means a lot.02:13
djszapi_so it would be a kinda "Blackberry Jam" for KDE.02:14
ZogG_laptoprzr: in redac there is no way to see .hidden folders02:14
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rzrZogG_laptop: true I add this on my list once it is ported to symbian :)02:16
ZogG_laptoprzr: and theme is terrible(sorry) as well as i think dirs should be first and than files02:18
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ieatlintdjszapi__: nope, have nothing03:32
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heymaster-laptopHow to delete QML Page ?04:52
djszapi__ieatlint: naughty you :p04:54
djszapi__heymaster-laptop: sorry?04:54
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heymaster-laptopdjszapi__: I have text in textfields. And pushing page again all fields are filled with data. I need to have empty textfields. Poping pagestack doesn't destroys QML page.04:57
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ieatlintdjszapi__: naughty?05:01
ieatlinti've dealt with too many dying phone platforms.. i don't have strong urges to jump on another :/05:02
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heymaster-laptopdjszapi__: never mind. after poping page i wrote code to fill textfields with empty strings.05:10
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djszapi__ieatlint: then just leave the phone industry :D06:23
djszapi__cause this is how it is anyway06:24
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ieatlintdjszapi__: i wasn't specifically in the phone industry06:34
ieatlintbut by the end of the year, i'll have worked with no fewer than 6 failed phone systems06:35
ieatlintand that just gets depressing :P06:35
ieatlintalso, i need to explain to roommates that when it comes to dishes and pots/pans, the word "clean" is binary.. there is no "mostly clean"06:36
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djszapi__ieatlint: well, many of us do have interests in phones07:44
djszapi__also, there was only 2 (?) failing qt phones so far, as far as I know.07:45
djszapi__others do not matter for me. XD07:45
djszapi__in addition, one of them (meeg) has really never mattered for me.07:45
ieatlintdepends what you mean by qt phone07:46
ieatlintdoes symbian count?07:46
djszapi__oh, well: Symbian was always b0rked07:47
djszapi__the other big time waster project07:47
ieatlintok, i can name qtopia and harmattan then as qt phones... maemo, symbian as phones that ran qt07:47
ieatlintand i was supposed to start doing some work on another qt phone, but about two weeks before that was to start, it famously got cancelled07:48
ieatlint(which isn't to imply i worked on maemo or qtopia themselves)07:49
djszapi__well, qnx is not Symbian category07:49
djszapi__it is not like insane07:49
djszapi__so it is kinda the orange vs apple topic.07:49
virtufantoranges are better07:49
ieatlintyeah, but qt is a supported platform on rim just like qt on symbian07:50
ieatlintand i don't take pleasure in saying that i don't think it'll be around too much longer07:51
virtufantieatlint: what phone was it that got famously cancelled?07:51
* ieatlint shrugs07:51
virtufantwindows phone 8?07:52
ieatlintyeah, wp8 got cancelled07:53
ieatlintbig news07:53
befordnetcraft confirms it07:53
djszapi__ieatlint: well, I do not take a pleasure in speculation either. :P07:53
djszapi__well, like I said, insane Symbian and cool qnx are not comparable.07:54
ieatlinti've yet to use a qnx rim device07:54
djszapi__plus RIM is not like Symbian when there were tons of parallel projects running.07:54
ieatlinti suspect i will come across one at some point..07:54
djszapi__if really, Jolla seems way more dead07:55
djszapi__way, way, and way more dead07:55
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ieatlinti don't know anything about jolla beyond all the hype07:56
ieatlintrim is bleeding as hard as nokia though07:56
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virtufantisn't rim bleeding harder?07:56
djszapi__well, Jolla is the stuff which thinks they can competite with other HUGE companies in the mobile sector.07:57
djszapi__very reasonable.07:57
ieatlintuh, well, nokia switched to windows phone in large part to be competitive in the US.  in Q2 2012, with two wp7 phones on store shelves, they sold 600k smartphones in canada and the us07:58
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ieatlint(which includes a few symbian phones, they only released "smartphone" devices sold)07:58
djszapi__I was not specifically referring to MS obviously.07:59
ieatlintnokia is bleeding badly, and their most valuable thing now are patents07:59
djszapi__they were unable to keep up with the really big competitors.07:59
djszapi__but sure, Jolla will ...07:59
ieatlintheh, we could sit here for hours talking about nokia's missteps08:00
djszapi__we do not need to.08:00
ieatlintthey're many.. which isn't exclusive, all companies have impressive mistakes08:00
djszapi__Jolla will change the world with few people ...08:00
ieatlinttake a look at the microsoft kin phone from 2010 :P08:00
djszapi__well, you have a misconception of talking about MS at phones. :p08:01
djszapi__and*, meh, well08:01
ieatlintno, i just think that's one of the more hilarious missteps08:01
djszapi__well, it is simple to swear about Nokia08:02
ieatlintanyway, i'll curiously watch what jolla does, but my expectations aren't too high08:02
djszapi__but if you look at the reality, they have provided the best qt phones for quite a decent amount of period.08:03
djszapi__Intel did not really provide any valuable for me.08:03
djszapi__just for one random example of those ...08:03
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befordkhertan_: ping09:49
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ZogG_laptopkhertan_: simplenote doesn't show .hidden dirs as well09:59
befordgo to sleep ZogG_laptop10:00
befordthp: ping10:00
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ZogG_laptopbeford: hey =( it's 10 here10:11
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beford2am here10:11
befordchecking old logs, I'm facing an issue that I believe khertan_ knows how to fix10:12
befordinvoker is not launching python apps10:12
ZogG_laptopbeford: and if you run from terminal and syslog says?10:13
befordhavnt checked syslog, but from the terminal without invoker works10:14
ZogG_laptoptry with invoker10:14
befordExec=invoker --single-instance --type=e /usr/bin/transmissionr10:16
befordJul 29 02:16:02 (2012) invoker[23937]: error: Lock reserved but no window id for binary name found.10:16
befordJul 29 02:16:02 (2012) [23937]: Booster: Can't activate existing instance of the application!10:16
befordlets see if that helps10:17
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befordhah that did the trick10:18
befordwell it seems so10:18
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khertan_ZogG_laptop: normal ... it s not KhtNotes isn't designed for showing hidden files11:04
khertan_khtsimpletext dir reader should ... but for an unknow reason didn't11:04
khertan_beford: do not forget to chmod +x your python file11:04
khertan_beford: and the shebang at first line11:04
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djszapi_ieatlint: ping12:31
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trxZogG_laptop just swipe it down (the keyboard)14:07
trxor tap on the "pencil" in the toolbar14:08
ZogG_laptoptrx: doesn't work it triggers addon buttons on top14:09
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trxZogG_laptop what does?14:14
ZogG_laptopthere are white buttons above keyboard right?14:21
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ZogG_laptoptrx: ?14:41
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djszapi_is there a good mobile hotspot application for desktop?15:17
djszapi_or desktop hotspot, or whatever15:17
djszapi_to connect to the desktop internet from my mobile phone for downloading stuff from ovi, etc.15:18
faenildjszapi_, OS?15:18
faenilConnectify for Windows, hostapd for Linux, those are the best options15:19
djszapi_faenil: own kernel :p15:20
alteregoDo you use ubuntu?15:23
djszapi_faenil: will take a look, thanks.15:23
alteregoNetwork manager on their has a nice share internet connection option.15:23
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djszapi_no, I do not.15:24
faenilalterego, but some OS (android, windows phone, Nemomobile)15:24
faenildon't see those networks15:24
alteregoYeah, nemo and adhoc networks is a PITA15:27
alteregoDoes hostapd actually create a proper infra network then?15:27
alteregoBecause that's awesome :)15:27
faenilalterego, yes it does :D I used it for connecting with those 3 OSes :)15:29
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pafaenil, is it possible that a laptop wifi does not support the mode?15:52
pai tried both connectify and the alternative, for windows, and ubuntu option on linux15:52
pai end up seeing the wifi, on the device15:52
pa(only with connectify, or maybe the other one)15:52
faenilpa, yes it is, iirc15:52
pabut connection doesnt work15:52
paah ok15:52
faenilmmm but that seems like a routing issue...15:52
pathats why then15:52
faenilit shouldn't let you create the network if it's not supporter imho15:52
pacan it  be coz the connection on the laptop goes through a vpn? but it shouldnt be a problem15:52
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Arkenoi! <- funny video, why so much effort to mimic "nokia style" (even model number) for phone pseudo-replica that has no Nokia prototype?16:05
mankelifor some reason they are manufacturing that in china16:11
mankelior were16:11
mankeliand nokia has made a prototype of the real thing16:11
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Arkenoimankeli, no one actually seen a working prototype, so i doubt anyone can find fools who can be tricked into thinking it is Nokia16:17
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ZogG_laptophis voice remind me black jack somehow16:24
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faenilpa, don't know16:32
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qwazixZogG_laptop, pong16:59
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robertjwSome important packages seem to be missing in the default repository.  Like:  ruby, irb, util-linux (fdisk).  Is there a workaround for this?  Another repository maybe?17:29
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gabriel9day guys and girls17:44
gabriel9I'm passing params to page which i push on page stack17:45
gabriel9but PageStatus.Activating is not fired17:45
gabriel9is there any other event which will be fired?17:47
gabriel9on page show, active17:47
heymaster-laptoponStatusChange ?17:48
gabriel9and for some reason params which i pass to that page did not show17:50
gabriel9is there some magic var which contains all params passed to page?17:50
gabriel9just to check if it's there17:50
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gabriel9BTW, statusChange fires17:51
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pashouldi use  a text field on a settings page if i want to le tthe user enter the age? and how do i catch when enter is pressed to dismss the keboard and save the value?17:57
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gabriel9why don't i see variable in Page which i pushed using .push(page, {foo: "bar"})18:48
gabriel9Can't find variable foo18:48
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gabriel9omg i need debugger :/18:49
gabriel9to se all variables18:49
djszapi_faenil: hey :)18:54
faenildjszapi_, hey18:54
djszapi_faenil: almost 35 kms riding from a week :)18:54
djszapi_after 10+ years non-biking :)18:54
djszapi_it is not that bad I hope :p18:54
faenildjszapi_, I only ride my bike around the city, I don't go outside for a lot of kms :D18:55
gabriel9tomorow you will die :D18:55
djszapi_gabriel9: real geeks are immortal ;)18:55
gabriel9yea :D18:55
djszapi_but errr ... this sports-tracker app is nasty18:56
djszapi_it publishes automatically to facebook18:56
djszapi_on my N918:56
djszapi_or well, perhaps I misselected something18:56
gabriel9check this out18:56
rashm2khey guys18:56
rashm2kquick question18:56
rashm2kI have two sets of lib folders18:57
rashm2kand lib_x8618:57
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rashm2khow do I link against the x86 when running in the simulator18:58
rashm2kbut arm when running on the device?18:58
rashm2kin the qt pro file18:58
djszapi_should be automatical...18:58
djszapi_you should not have arm on non arm target in the first place...18:58
djszapi_maximum as a cross-stuff...18:58
rashm2kI have cross compiled these libraries18:58
faenilhas anyone ever used SnapOneItem from ListView?18:59
faenilit's giving me a hard time18:59
djszapi_snap what ? :D18:59
djszapi_rashm2k: yes, but those are usually in sysroot ...18:59
gabriel9this whole qml stuff drives me crazy :D18:59
gabriel9and it's 35+ C in my room18:59
djszapi_35+ LOC C code?19:00
rashm2kI think I need to explain19:00
gabriel9no no, celsius19:00
rashm2kI have compile some libraries on my machine for x8619:00
djszapi_gabriel9: C is a programming language for us here xD19:00
rashm2kfor running in the simulator19:00
rashm2kbut cross compiled the same libraries for the device19:01
rashm2kso when QT builds it I want to have a conditional section19:01
gabriel9damn, i need to take some c++ stuff and write apps in it19:01
djszapi_Qt*, please19:01
djszapi_rashm2k: you do not want19:01
rashm2kthat says if building for arm then use lib_arm19:02
rashm2kif simulator use lib_x8619:02
djszapi_rashm2k: you do not want19:02
djszapi_what you want is to have a clear lib path19:03
djszapi_with the libraries in there for the given platform19:03
rashm2kwhat do you mean?19:03
djszapi_if build for A, pick up A libs19:03
djszapi_if build for B, pick up B libs19:03
gabriel9Why does it not break on my breakpoints? it does not give any error :/19:04
rashm2kyes thats exactly what I want19:04
rashm2kgabriel9 maybe you are running in release and not debug?19:04
gabriel9it's debugg19:04
djszapi_gabriel9: bps are for weaks19:04
djszapi_use printf19:04
gabriel9in qml? :D19:05
djszapi_rashm2k: so you have two options:19:05
djszapi_1) something like sb, you have two entirely different targets19:05
djszapi_2) You use Madde or whatever, and when you cross-compile, you use sysroot19:05
djszapi_it is that easy as that19:05
rashm2kyou need to enable QML debugging and then compile the library - check projects on the left19:06
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djszapi_gabriel9: yes, in qml19:06
djszapi_it is called console.log19:06
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gabriel9yea i do that19:06
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gabriel9but my bloddy var is undefined :D19:06
rashm2kyeah QML debugging is crap19:06
gabriel9and i pass it with .push :D19:07
djszapi_no, it is not19:07
djszapi_actually way simpler than native printf19:07
djszapi_since you do not need to recompile.19:07
rashm2kOkay so what do I need to put in my qt pro file?19:07
djszapi_rashm2k: nothing19:07
rashm2ki've seen sections that say if unix include xxxx, if symbian include yyyy and if windows include zzzz can I not do the same with my libs?19:08
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djszapi_it does not matter, if you can or not19:09
djszapi_you do not wanna19:09
rashm2kthe libs are already compiled, I don't want to compile them again when I build my project in Qt - I only link to them19:10
djszapi_apparently, you did not get the point from my writing...19:10
djszapi_so how much experience do you have with cross-compilation?19:10
rashm2kI only managed to install scratchbox for meego19:11
djszapi_then please ask what is not clear about what I wrote above.19:11
djszapi_You need to stick with a way19:12
djszapi_either sb, or madde19:12
rashm2kwhat is sb?19:12
rashm2kI'm writing for N9 - not maemo19:12
djszapi_it does not really matter how it is called from cross-compilation point of view19:13
rashm2kso what you seem to be suggesting is to compile in sb - but with different targets?19:14
djszapi_well, I have never used the simulator19:14
djszapi_I do not see the point in that personally.19:14
djszapi_and probably QtCreator has better support for that, which means Madde.19:14
rashm2kwell it works well for us newbiws19:14
djszapi_why do you need simulator?19:14
rashm2kdeploying to device takes long19:15
gabriel9it works!!!19:15
gabriel9hell yea19:15
rashm2kplus /tmp is too small19:15
gabriel9drinks on me19:15
rashm2kon device19:15
djszapi_rashm2k: tmp is not small unless they decreased this recently..19:15
rashm2kmy deb file is too big to fit on /tmp19:15
djszapi_but in any case, I would suggest deploying19:16
rashm2kit's 4mb19:16
djszapi_you will have a few issues with the transient from simulator to device19:16
rashm2ksuch as19:16
djszapi_I really do not know why you need simulator19:18
djszapi_editing qml files is possible on the device directly.19:18
djszapi_if you are doing smartly.19:18
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rashm2ksimulator is easy to work with19:19
rashm2kmaybe I just need a single statement in the pro file?19:20
djszapi_no you need a lot of understanding19:20
djszapi_the basics about cross-compilation19:20
djszapi_because you keep repeating the pro file which does not really make too much sense unfortunately in this context :)19:20
rashm2kokay let me explain a litlle more19:21
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rashm2kin my pro file I have symbian:TARGET.CAPABILITY += NetworkServices19:22
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rashm2kwhich means when building for symbain it needs network access?19:22
djszapi_so what?19:22
rashm2kso the pro file knows what your target is19:23
djszapi_I am still not getting the point19:23
rashm2kthat should be enough for me19:23
djszapi_no, you are doing it wrong, really.19:23
djszapi_if you wanna hack the pro file for linking against the same lib, but with different target type.19:24
rashm2knot quite19:24
rashm2kMeego Target will link against libs under lib_arm folder19:25
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rashm2ksimulator Target will link against libs under lib_x86 folder19:25
djszapi_I got the use case in the first case, but your approach is wrong19:25
rashm2kthats all the logic I need19:25
djszapi_and I will not repeat myself. I have told how you can proceed.19:26
rashm2kI just don't understand that19:26
rashm2kI don't know why madde and sb are even involved in this process - I already have both the x86 and arm libs I need19:27
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gabriel9can properety be object?19:55
gabriel9json in fact?19:55
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djszapi_gabriel9: that does not parse here20:02
gabriel9property string name; working20:03
gabriel9property object human; does not work20:03
gabriel9object is complex type20:04
gabriel9i see not it does not support them20:04
djszapi_I wonder where you saw object here:
gabriel9i saw them in my head :)20:05
gabriel9short storry: i have some ajax req and then from js code i push page and pass it response object :)20:07
gabriel9but as i see it there is no type Object20:07
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gabriel9it can hold objects like variant, sweet20:37
djszapi_well not really20:40
djszapi_unless you have a C++ class which you register20:41
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gabriel9will try it later20:49
gabriel9now go for cookies :)20:49
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MohammadAGI realized the thing breaking my app was a <3 in a status21:11
MohammadAGQt thinks it's part of HTML code21:11
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itsnotabigtruckMohammadAG: it probably treats that field as html then21:13
itsnotabigtruckescaping ought to work, no?21:13
MohammadAGitsnotabigtruck, escaping the <3?21:14
MohammadAGI use simple HTML to handle stuff in Sociality21:14
MohammadAGinstead of designing customs labels where only part of it is clickable, I use <a href="profile://$ID"> NAME HERE </a>21:15
MohammadAGthat makes NAME HERE clickable, and I handle the "link" in code21:15
itsnotabigtruckMohammadAG: <3 --> &lt;321:17
itsnotabigtruckall instances of & < > have to be turned into escape sequences21:17
* alterego senses an injection attack ..21:17
itsnotabigtruckalterego: heh21:18
itsnotabigtruckfortunately it's probably harmless as i don't think qt labels do scripts and stuff21:18
itsnotabigtruckbut it is a bug for sure21:18
MohammadAGI think there's a escape method for QString21:18
MohammadAGtmpMessage.replace("<", "&lt;"); worked21:19
MohammadAGthanks itsnotabigtruck21:19
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ZogG_laptopqwazix: the ping was from yesterday21:28
itsnotabigtruckMohammadAG: that isn't good enough21:41
itsnotabigtruckyou need to do all three21:41
itsnotabigtruckdoing < only is a non-solution21:41
itsnotabigtrucki think you just mentioned qstring has an html escape function?21:41
itsnotabigtruckuse that!21:41
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: sup21:43
ZogG_laptopknock knock21:44
ZogG_laptopwho is there21:44
ZogG_laptopme who21:44
ZogG_laptopme ego =)21:44
djszapi_oh we got the first gold at the olympic games yay21:45
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ZogG_laptopi do not watch olimpics21:47
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MohammadAGI don't get why the same code on Fremantle doesn't work on Harmattan21:47
alteregoMohammadAG: what code exactly?21:48
MohammadAGalterego, youtube link fetching code21:48
alteregoaegis? :P21:48
phakodoes it work no fremantle now?21:49
phakoyoutube changed a lot21:49
MohammadAGalterego, can't blame it here :p21:49
alteregoHow far does it get?21:52
MohammadAGDEBUG: "yVJnMj2oKfo"21:52
MohammadAGDEBUG: "Error: Unable to retrieve video"21:52
MohammadAGthat far :p21:53
MohammadAGand it's immediate, not a network problem21:53
MohammadAGmy fault21:53
MohammadAGapparently I didn't commit the new source fremantle times :D21:53
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paqtsdk (qtcreator) latest for linux22:14
pawhy dont i have the "view" section for qtsimulator?22:14
pait says i can change there the resolution and put it native22:14
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robertjwWhere is fdisk?  It's not in my N9 and it's not in the apt-get repo.  How can I reorganize my flash without tools?22:50
djszapi_robertjw: you have not made much research, have you22:52
djszapi_but, aegis might be in your way, anyway.22:52
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robertjwJust got my phone yesterday22:52
robertjwdjszapi:  good link.  perfect!22:53
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djszapi_robertjw: I recommend adding that repository to your sources.list, rather than pulling case by case.22:59
robertjwyou read my mind.  I was just looking for the config file for adding repos.  While I'm at it, are there other useful repos I should be looking at?23:01
djszapi_the community repository23:01
robertjwnow we are talking23:01
djszapi_I could get you to all those links by off-hand, but perhaps better if you learn fishing.23:01
djszapi_see the landing page in the topic.23:02
djszapi_ -> essentially this part.23:02
robertjwperfect.  I appreciate the jump start.23:03
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jonniI would not recomend adding that repo at all. But just to use sfdisk, since that is installed on the firmware by default.23:11
djszapi_sure, you would23:12
djszapi_many things depend on that from the community repository.23:12
djszapi_also, I do not see a problem with the ncurses interface preferred.23:13
djszapi_if something is used to that, etc.23:13
infobotdjszapi_ meant: if someone is used to that, etc.23:13
djszapi_it is still coming from the signed Nokia repository after all.23:13
robertjwsfdisk is not installed on my N923:13
djszapi_robertjw: not even with developer mode and installations/23:13
robertjwdeveloper mode is enabled and I did all the associated installations23:14
djszapi_yep, expected since it comes from the same package after all.23:14
djszapi_so you can use your preference.23:15
jonni /sbin/sfdisk23:15
jonniits part of busybox, so if you dont have it, then your device should not boot up ;)23:15
robertjwhmmm, you are right, there it is.23:15
djszapi_jonni: it is not part on my desktop though23:16
djszapi_busybox | grep sfdisk | wc -l23:16
robertjwstrange that `find / | grep fdisk` did not pick that up23:16
djszapi_robertjw: other version, if you mount your phone up to your host PC23:17
djszapi_and you can fdisk available.23:17
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djszapi_but util-linux is a better way to stick with fdisk, if you do not prefer sfdisk23:17
djszapi_perhaps, it is a modified or very old busybox, but it is definitely not part of the recent busyboxes.23:18
jonnithat command returns 0 on N9 too, it just is not mentioned on the help page :)23:19
djszapi_robertjw: can you please make sure?23:19
djszapi_dpkg -S /sbin/sfdisk ?23:19
jonniRM696-21-3_PR_001:~# dpkg -S /sbin/sfdisk23:20
jonnibusybox: /sbin/sfdisk23:20
djszapi_sounds like a bugreport against the busybox documentation23:20
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jonniits a seperate binary which comes from busybox package23:20
robertjwdpkg -S /sbin/sfdisk:  busybox: /sbin/sfdisk23:20
djszapi_in any case23:20
djszapi_util-linux will override that23:20
djszapi_with the "full version".23:20
djszapi_in which case, you will have the other toys as well23:21
djszapi_perhaps, this is not the only one you need.23:21
djszapi_or perhaps busybox can achieve any wishes, I do not know the use case.23:21
jonniand normal warnings for the people who have had the device only for a day, if you add unsigned repositories, you can easily mess up your device. So my advice would be to study TMO a bit before adding new repoes.23:22
djszapi_well, not quite23:22
djszapi_the community repository has been used for ages23:22
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djszapi_issues are everywhere, and actually more at other places.23:22
djszapi_like hacking around aegis etc directly.23:22
djszapi_I have not really had any problems the last one year or more with the community repository, and I am sure I am not alone.23:23
jonniyes community repoes are pretty ok, I was talking about harmattan-dev repo, which is only meant for scrachbox env and not to real device.23:23
djszapi_you are not getting the point23:23
djszapi_the harmattan repository is a dependency23:23
djszapi_for the community repository23:23
djszapi_since the harmattan repository was integrated into the harmattan target of the c-obs.23:23
jonniits a stupid depency.23:23
djszapi_that does not matter, it is smart or stupid23:24
djszapi_it is a fact, which will never be changed most likely.23:24
djszapi_so if one would like to use the community repository, the harmattan repository must be present23:24
jonniin optimal world nokia would just release signed pr1.3 repo, and world would be much nicer place.23:24
djszapi_sure, you would not like the reinvent the more many years put into the community repository.23:24
djszapi_please do not start this all over again :)23:25
djszapi_I went through this many times23:25
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djszapi_was fighting with the stupid SDK team :D23:25
djszapi_at many times23:25
djszapi_I know the history behind this inside and out23:25
djszapi_I was unable to get anything done on the SDK team side, and also on the c-obs side.23:25
djszapi_yes, it is stupid, but this is the reality, bottom line.23:25
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djszapi_and it is really not much of a burden23:26
jonniyes, I know that life is not optimal, people can use what ever repoes that they like. I was just triyng to say that if you only have had device for a day, and are not familiar how signed vs unsinged repoes might conflict, then some caution might be warranted. Its not like everybody should install developer mode & inception on the first day they get the device. Might be wise to study if they need it or not.23:28
djszapi_everything is clearly documented, really.23:28
djszapi_have been used for ages, people with one day23:29
djszapi_if really, inception and other stuff are way more dangereous23:29
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djszapi_because that plays the cat and mouse game with the security system23:29
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djszapi_and the issue that can be revealed by this, and I reported on the day first when catching, is recoverable.23:30
jonniwell yes, everything is clearly documented, but still  not everyone know howto use sfdisk and fdisk on live filesystems so they wont corrupt and render device in malf cond.23:30
djszapi_that is why I would not recommend sfdisk23:30
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djszapi_but the one which the person is used to.23:30
robertjwI see that the harmattan-dev repo also contains my other "missing" package -- ruby and irb23:31
djszapi_yes, that repository and the community repository are very useful23:31
djszapi_and made many people get rid of packaging dependencies while developing applications.23:32
djszapi_ideally, as for the device, the harmattan repository would not be needed23:32
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djszapi_but it is a historical reason, which was never revamped, no matter how hard I pushed back then.23:32
djszapi_but it is not like a very bad thing.23:32
djszapi_the alternative is to get someone scrapping c-obs and rebuild everything from scratch23:33
djszapi_which we do not really wanna do.23:33
djszapi_to get the current somewhat stabilized took many months.23:33
djszapi_I would not personally worry about this a minute.23:34
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pais it possible to make a switch not modifiable?23:48
palike greyed or something?23:48
qwazixZogG_laptop, I think I finally fixed the git mess23:48
ieatlintwell, i had no idea that the plural of stadium could be stadia23:48
qwazixBut please have a look at it, are your changes still there?23:48
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djszapi_pa: yes23:48
djszapi_use the ternary operator23:48
paah right, so i always set to checked: false23:49
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ieatlintthat's a boolean that describes if a switch is checked23:54
ieatlintyou want "enabled: false"23:54
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