IRC log of #harmattan for Friday, 2012-07-27

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chem|strzr: how is it going?00:17
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DocScrutinizer05check out appguard (ex google store) - that'S the way things are supposed to work01:19
DocScrutinizer05and you definitely don't need aegis for that01:19
* DocScrutinizer05 still thinks of a slightly patched antivir scanner to implement 98% of what appguard does01:20
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ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: are you talking about subject you said you gonna kick for when people talk =P01:21
DocScrutinizer05100% self-reliant (maybe modulo the signatures for spotting rogue code)01:21
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ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: =*01:24
ZogG_laptopbtw to apply app to appstore do i need to povide source?01:25
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ZogG_laptopauser: test passed01:30
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auserZogG_laptop, which tests are you referring to01:31
arceanMohammadAG, I've updated ledapplet, sources are in repo :)01:32
ZogG_laptopauser: auser ~test@01:32
ZogG_laptoparcean: sup maaan01:32
arceanZogG_laptop, good, and you? :)01:33
auserZogG_laptop, aha ... i dont know about that... i wasn't testing anything01:33
ZogG_laptoparcean: good too01:33
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arceanZogG_laptop, I'm going to install imgrup :D01:35
ZogG_laptoparcean: i would like for QA review on apps4meego =P01:41
arceanno problem :D01:42
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arceanZogG_laptop, congrats for the application :)01:42
heymasterZogG_laptop: you wrote app for contest ?01:43
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heymasterI'm so lazy to code with cpp after objc01:45
ZogG_laptopheymaster: nope01:56
ZogG_laptoparcean: it's half done01:56
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ZogG_laptopbeford: sup man02:46
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ZogG_laptopheymaster: how is your app going?02:47
befordhey ZogG_laptop02:50
befordnot much, college starts next week :/02:50
heymasterZogG_laptop: thinking tomorrow write code. Only ListView and insert screen. Now good weather wants to be near the sea.02:51
befordZogG_laptop: checking the stats for scrobbler, almost 1k downloads =)02:51
ZogG_laptopheymaster: where do you leave?02:52
ZogG_laptopbeford: i have only 700=02:52
heymasterZogG_laptop: "leave" ?02:52
ZogG_laptopheymaster: live*02:52
heymasterZogG_laptop: Lithuania :) if you know that country :)02:53
ZogG_laptopbeford: my app is useless =)02:53
ZogG_laptopheymaster: yes i do02:53
ZogG_laptopheymaster: i was born in russia actually02:54
befordhah its not, I used it the other day at market to ask my gf what she wanted me to buy with pictures :P02:54
heymasterZogG_laptop: :)02:55
ZogG_laptopbeford: is she hot?02:56
ZogG_laptopif she is than it's not useless =P02:56
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ZogG_laptopbeford: just joking =)02:56
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befordhaha yea02:58
befordI'm still thinking about participating in coding competition02:59
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ZogG_laptopbeford: any project started or in mind?02:59
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ZogG_laptopbeford: ok03:01
befordneed to think fast though, i'll check this weekend03:01
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heymasterbeford: how much time you need to write app?03:02
befordheymaster: maybe a week working a couple of hours during the night, nothing complicated, "simple" apps03:04
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befordheymaster: what are you working on? coding competition?03:07
heymaster-laptopbeford: I'm trying. about 1 month and still don't anything to show. few qml files and cpp. Trying to write app for competition. Don't own harmattan device, so it's best bet.03:08
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heymaster-laptopopportunity to work with harmattan..03:10
befordi can help you test if you need, also development advice as long as my knowledge allows it03:10
heymaster-laptopbeford: thanks03:10
ZogG_laptopi said i can test as well, and it's still positive =)03:11
heymaster-laptopat least now need to write something working, because now there is nothing to show03:11
heymaster-laptopthanks :)03:11
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heymasterlooks like this is friendly and positive community.. thinking in feature to contribute to opensource project (any) .. never committed any code to opensource project03:21
heymasterlooks like best way to learn how to program is to contribute to opensource03:23
ZogG_laptopbeford: i have an idea for your app =)03:23
heymasterZogG_laptop: I think I will stick to ServerMonitor like app for now03:24
befordZogG_laptop: tell me03:27
ZogG_laptopbeford: i lack the transmission remote03:29
ZogG_laptopit's rpc03:29
befordah sounds nice03:30
befordI use transmission on mac and linux too03:30
heymastertransmission is torrent client ?03:30
befordI think so03:30
heymasterso rpc is "remote procedure call" .. don03:31
heymasterdon't see any similarity03:32
befordyea RPC, let me check if there is any opensource alternative to base a project for harmattan03:36
heymasteraah, haven't read what he talking about transmission remote :)03:38
heymasterI always thought what rpc is binary code execution on remote host03:39
ZogG_laptopbeford: i think there were client for maemo but not sure if opensource03:40
ZogG_laptopand there are clients dor desktop03:40
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itsnotabigtruckpa: still around?05:11
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: is it?05:11
itsnotabigtruckthe problem is that when you ping me, i'm at work :(05:12
itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: /me sighs05:12
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: knock knock05:12
itsnotabigtruckwho's there :p05:13
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: update05:13
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ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: sup man05:14
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itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: not a lot06:56
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ieatlinthaha, an "nfc exploit" for the n9 was presented at black hat08:27
ieatlintapparently if you take an n9, turn on nfc, then turn off "confirm sharing and connecting" ... it won't ask you to confirm connection and sharing!!!!11108:27
jonniold news08:28
ieatlintand then you can cause it to connect to bluetooth devices!!!!!!08:28
ieatlintblack hat is clearly getting better08:28
ieatlintand frankly, the fact that when i disable security features leaves me open to attack is simply unexpected, scary, and unacceptable08:29
jonniieatlint: your trolling, right? Since this has alrady been talked in TMO 2 days ago? Its just like if you disable security features in PC, like disable antivirus and change browser to autoexecute .exe files, if that leaves me open to attack, is simply unexpected, scary and unacceptable?08:38
jonnisometimes I miss the trolls and sarcastic jokes, then people forget to add ;-) to the end of the sentenses...08:41
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ieatlintjonni: no, it's no joke09:56
ieatlintit's simply unaaceptable that disabling security features removes security protections09:57
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chem|stthat is like "why am I driffting with my car when I disable traction control?"09:59
ieatlinthardly, because that still leaves me in control of the situation10:01
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chem|stieatlint: you only think you are11:30
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: ieatlint: just do not hug strangers, and your phone would be safe11:59
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phakohey, could people with PR1.3 post me the sha1sum + size of /usr/lib/ ?12:03
phakoI've a rather interesting effect :-/12:03
chem|stZogG_laptop: I cannot even get a tag in my wallet with only 1mm leather in between...12:04
chem|stand dafuq I cannot play .mov .mpg .flv ...12:05
chem|stbut mp4...12:05
chem|stis this a good idea?
ZogG_laptopchem|st: u can get tag in your wallet, because you should know what tag on your wallet should do. just don't use NFC in unknown places with unknown devices and people. after all scam is just about tricking people!12:05
ZogG_laptopchem|st: there was thread aboout it. but all i need is avi and mkv =)12:06
chem|stZogG_laptop: I cannot read the tag if INSIDE my wallet... and I have nfc off as there are not many people with nfc phones out there yet12:06
ZogG_laptopchem|st: actually never played a single video12:06
chem|stI have lots of stuff in mpg and mov12:07
ZogG_laptopchem|st: stock player, mplayer?12:07
chem|stand everything downloaded from youtube... all music videos I have are mpg or mov too12:08
chem|ststock player12:08
ZogG_laptopchem|st: try OpenVideoPlayer12:09
chem|stfancy sputter movies from work are mpg12:09
ZogG_laptopchem|st: add codec support than. i'll say more some youtube videos are flv and wouldn't be played =)12:10
chem|stenough that musicplayer's playlist management is fscked12:10
chem|stbut videoplayer not supporting basic containers is fscked12:11
chem|stsome stuff driving me crazy12:11
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: stock things are never good =)12:11
chem|stbut why is there no additional codec package yet? do people like to install 6 players to support all stuff?12:12
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i dunno, it was discussed. i just never played movies on n9 or n90012:13
paanyone familiar with qtmobility location?12:13
ZogG_laptopbut i think openplayer is good enuf12:13
pathe accuracy sucks so hard. i was thinking how to improve12:13
pado you think a moving average would be a good solution?12:13
* ArkanoiD- used to watch movies a lot on n900 + pico pojector combo12:14
ZogG_laptopchem|st: the problem is that there is no proper repo for that12:16
paand also: do you know whether it exist a free world elevation map?12:19
paaltitude from gps is almost random12:19
ZogG_laptoppa: what is elevation?12:20
ZogG_laptoppa: did yo ucheck openmap?12:21
paim checking openstreetmap, is that the same?12:21
ZogG_laptopyeap, basicaly.12:22
ZogG_laptopmaybe openstreetmap is part of openmap or it's the same12:22
ZogG_laptopor it;s not12:23
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pais openmap
ZogG_laptoppa: i thought that openmap is openstreetmap till now12:23
ZogG_laptoppa: that's what google says12:23
paanyway, on openstreetmap it seems elevation is very sparse12:24
pai'd need more or less a grid over which to interpolate12:24
pawhat is a "5 minute latitude/longitude grid"??12:26
pa5 minutes?12:26
pahow do they measure it in minutes?12:27
paoh, maybe i found it12:28
pa30 meters12:28
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chem|stZogG_laptop: OVP does not add codecs...12:37
ZogG_laptopchem|st: let's build additional codes than12:37
chem|stpa: 5minutes lon/lat are different depending to where you are they are only square at zero lon/xlat12:39
chem|stZogG_laptop: see the link!12:39
chem|stwhat does -bad mean12:40
ZogG_laptopchem|st: did you try it?12:41
chem|stZogG_laptop: I was asking if it is ok to install12:42
ZogG_laptopchem|st: it is ok12:43
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i may try to build it later, just check if it's working12:44
ZogG_laptoprzr: ping12:44
ZogG_laptopchem|st: we need to set up some repo for libs and such things like MohammadAG did. or ask him permission to put stuff on his repo =)12:45
chem|stbad is installed..12:50
ZogG_laptopchem|st: bad is meta imho12:52
ZogG_laptopchem|st: btw you can record video straight on n9 of n9 screen12:52
chem|stis it actually safe to apt-get install stuff?12:52
chem|stdo I need to restart something?12:53
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i don't think you need to restart. but again i dunno a lot about how stock player works. need to look into that12:57
ZogG_laptopchem|st: did you install packages from blog?12:59
chem|stno repos13:02
ZogG_laptoptry one from link you sent13:04
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pai wonder if some smartass has ever been able to download the whole ASTER GDEM dataset..13:07
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chem|stZogG_laptop: libs and plugins do not want to install13:11
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ZogG_laptopchem|st: what are the errors?13:11
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chem|stwrong installation package13:11
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i'm going to buy things for weekend, i'll brb and i'll try myself. we'll see how it goes =)13:12
chem|stand nokia did cut out plugins from good!13:13
ZogG_laptopit's metapackage as well right? so we can just repackage it with more codecs than13:15
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chem|stok rebooting did not do anything... I need ffmpeg it seems13:25
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phakomeh, looks like PR1.3 screwed up tracker :(14:06
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ZogG_laptopphako: not really? why?14:07
phakoZogG_laptop: does /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract -f <some JPEG> spit out a lot of SPARQL for you?14:07
ZogG_laptopphako: what that command does before i run it?14:08
phakoZogG_laptop: just print out the sparql tracker would use to insert information into its database, if you run it on commandline it's for debugging purposes only14:08
phakoso won't change anything14:09
ZogG_laptoplemme check14:09
ZogG_laptopphako: i just already run one command that erased all contacts and sms's so i prefer to double check now =)14:09
phakonah, that's safe14:09
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ZogG_laptopphako: you want ooutput? i have a lot of it there14:11
phakoZogG_laptop: what's the last line?14:11
ZogG_laptopphako: i think it didn't work14:12
phakois it "SPARQL Item:"14:12
phakoor "nmm:meteringMode ..."14:12
ZogG_laptopphako: wait it fails on finding the dir i use =)14:12
ZogG_laptopphako: the last block is info14:13
phakolike proper sparql with lots of nmm: stuff?14:13
ZogG_laptopSPARQL pre-update:14:13
ZogG_laptopSPARQL item:14:13
ZogG_laptopand than block of a nfo:Image :14:13
ZogG_laptopwith widwth and other stuff14:14
phakocan you sha1sum /usr/lib/ ?14:14
ZogG_laptopwhat is nmm:dlnaProfile =) does dlna need it at all?14:14
phakoZogG_laptop: yes14:14
phakoneeded to check compatibility between devices14:14
phakoand you don't really want to know the rules to compute the profile14:15
ZogG_laptoplemme paste it from phone14:16
ZogG_laptopdidn't ssh (changed ip or keys =]14:16
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phakoor 14e514:16
phakooh man14:17
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ZogG_N96e98ceb6c0ce7ab40f33e6a496d4cc5d8dfdd2b8  /usr/lib/
ZogG_laptopthat one14:18
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ZogG_N9ls -l /usr/lib/
ZogG_laptopit didn't paste whoole thing14:19
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phako184292 or 182812 ?14:21
phakoor something else14:21
phakoyeah, that's the working one14:22
phakodid you flash or ota?14:22
ZogG_laptopso it's probably you only14:22
ZogG_laptopphako: flashed14:22
phakono, my colleague has the same issue14:22
ZogG_laptopphako: just apt-get reinstall ?14:22
phakoZogG_laptop: gives you the "broken" one, even on working phone14:23
ZogG_laptopphako: at least you saw other n9 than yours, i didn't =(14:23
ZogG_laptophope to see damagedspline and maybe MohammadAG at 7th =)14:23
ZogG_laptopphako: that's why i like gentoo with tools like revdep-rebuild and others to check libs and deps are built right =)14:25
phakowell I've a nerdpornpicture of a set of four in all colors ;)14:25
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ZogG_laptopphako: FU!!!!!!!!!14:34
phakoZogG_laptop: relax, only the blue one is mine14:34
faenilhey hey hey14:34
faenilwhat's this news about a new meego device coming on 7th?14:35
ZogG_laptopphako: doesn't matter, still FUUU!14:35
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MohammadAGZogG_laptopchem|st: we need to set up some repo for libs and such things like MohammadAG did. or ask him permission to put stuff on his repo =)14:38
MohammadAGisn't it better to use rzr's repo for that?14:38
paok, so why y = -30 works, but - toppage.intproperty does not?14:38
MohammadAGalthough I hate OBS, but still14:38
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: nope, i mean clean repo, we all respect to rzr, he didn't check half of things he built. we need something checked and stable only. maybe even testing->stable plan14:39
ZogG_laptopand yes i hate OBS too =)14:39
ZogG_laptopyesterday we had really nice discussion on #maemo capacity screens vs resistance14:39
ZogG_laptopthe opposite argument was than harmattan is for fanboys and facebook users coz resistance is better =) and doesn't matter what i said i was called windows user and fanboy =)14:39
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: so are you free at 7th?14:41
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, doubt it, exams14:47
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: btw why didn't you add system-ui to your repo? no way to sign it with inception before or something like that?14:47
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, I'll happily set up the repo, but I'm not aware of a method to upload to my server without knowing the user pass14:47
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i finished exams and have new semester =)14:47
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, broad range of users14:47
MohammadAGPR1.2 beta N950, PR1.2 N9, PR1.3 N914:48
MohammadAGand the package's name is system-ui14:48
MohammadAGplus I can't bump version number due to metapackage14:48
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: we'll need to figure that out for CSSU anyway =P14:48
MohammadAGthis sort of issue needs that14:48
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: we can make something to upload over http with login and password =)14:49
MohammadAGyou, not me :p14:51
ZogG_laptopi'll check. we dont want to repeat your wordpress experience14:51
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: you have full access there?14:51
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i thought if git-ftp can suite us ( as well keep uptodate of all repo users)14:52
ZogG_laptopchem|st: so back to codecs14:53
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: do you have any knowledge about codecs on N9 /N900?14:53
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khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, hi14:54
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: sup14:54
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, what is exactly the problem you have ? any log ? launching make with python 3 or 2.7 ?14:54
MohammadAGnope, never used them14:55
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, user access only14:55
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: default is 2.714:55
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i may try to get host, but not sure. need to ask one of the friends =)14:56
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rzrZogG_laptop, my repo is a temp place before appformeego14:58
rzri cant do all myself ... just fork and fix what's wrong ...14:58
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khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, strange can't reproduce it14:59
ZogG_laptoprZr: i was talking more about making system repo. not devel one. like in maemo we have testing stable and extratesting14:59
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ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: any other info i can provide?15:00
khertan__n130i ll try to understand what happen before15:00
khertan__n130and i ll probably have questions15:00
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, can you post the content of your make ?15:01
ZogG_laptop $ wgetpaste make.py15:02
ZogG_laptopYour paste can be seen here:
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khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, you have still bugged version of make15:03
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, are you sure you catch the last one from github ?15:04
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: i did git fetch upstream while upstream is your repo15:04
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khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, git fetch fetch remote change in a branch are you sure you use that branch ?15:06
MohammadAGspeaking of which15:06
MohammadAGhow does one submit to appsformeego?15:06
chem|stZogG_laptop: I will be back on tuesday... !15:07
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ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: i use master branch afaik15:08
MohammadAGnevermind, there's a big ass submit your app button15:08
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i don't promise anything but i'll play with it15:08
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, :) git pull merge it automatically15:08
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: you just build it in OBS and than you submit15:08
khertan__n130or git fetch;git merge origin master15:08
khertan__n130MohammadAG, build package in obs15:09
MohammadAGAt this time it is only possible to submit a package which has no external dependencies, other than what is provided in the SDK. If you need other libraries for instance, then you should link them in statically. We're looking into adding shared dependencies, but that still needs discussion.15:09
khertan__n130MohammadAG, then create a submit request with MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan:Apps:Testing15:09
MohammadAGthat's fun15:09
khertan__n130MohammadAG, MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan:Apps:Testing15:10
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: git merge master upstream/master15:10
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: yeap, that's why i said we need proper repo =)15:10
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, depends how you name it in config :15:10
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: yours is upstream and both have master15:11
MohammadAGkhertan__n130, how long does it take to import?15:11
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: it worked =P15:11
khertan__n130MohammadAG, less than for building in home15:11
khertan__n130take 2 hours when a package is built to appear in my home: repository15:12
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: it even made deb and all15:12
khertan__n130take 2 to 10min to appear in harmattan:apps:testing15:12
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: but you have it built right?15:12
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, yeah :)15:12
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, it s even support aegis digsigsum and aegis manifest file now15:12
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: than i can't help you anymore =P15:13
MohammadAGThese are in the SDK right? PKGCONFIG += QJson qmafw qmafw-shared meegotouch meegotouch-boostable15:13
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khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, but you help me a lot :)15:13
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, i take example in imgrup files15:13
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i think. just try to build and see how it goes. you need those in control file though. you building in qtcreator or sb?15:13
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: =P15:14
khertan__n130and do not forget build-depends in control file need to be in dsc file too :)15:14
MohammadAGdsc is autogenerated15:14
MohammadAGunless you're building debs improperly :p15:14
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: than thanks phako, i just summed up his idea and way he build them and now as repay i help everyone with those problems =)15:14
khertan__n130MohammadAG, i was building the tools to generate it in python on device15:14
khertan__n130dpkg tools didn't works directly on device15:15
MohammadAGthen dev on a PC :p15:15
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: if you use mostly QtCreator to build i have scripts on making it easier than in wiki. i wrote howto how to use QtCreator and upload to apps4meego if you interested15:15
khertan__n130MohammadAG, but this is a computer !15:16
MohammadAGI just do a symlink ZogG_laptop :P15:16
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: khertan__n130 likes to do it on laptop but with ssh on device =P15:16
MohammadAGln -s qtc_packaging/debian_harmattan debian15:16
khertan__n130THIS IS A COMPUTER (with german voice of the mad scientist from IronSky)15:16
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: nope. it's not the way and as well do not add steps as in wiki15:16
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, MohammadAG no ssh access in the metro without network15:17
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, my debian folder is proper, don't worry15:17
MohammadAGno WiFi in the metro?15:17
MohammadAGIsrael's buses have WiFi15:17
khertan__n130MohammadAG, i live in france15:17
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: the qtcreator's differ from debian. as you need to comment/uncomment stuff15:17
khertan__n130there is wifi ... in some station only and if you paid a lot for it15:17
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, yes, I'm aware15:17
khertan__n13020Euros 4hours15:18
khertan__n130and you need to use it in 10 days15:18
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: phako's script allow you not to do it manualy and does all work generating dsc and tar.gz15:18
khertan__n130in few day i ll use an other phone isp15:18
khertan__n130one that don't block every other port than 8015:18
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, I prefer to use dpkg-buildpackage rather than some scripts15:19
MohammadAGit's the proper debian way15:19
khertan__n130phone isp that lock ssh are evil15:19
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: it actually uses it, just keeps QtCreator without changes15:19
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, or just ln -s qtc_packaging/debian_harmattan/ debian15:21
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: all you do you comment lines for obs with "##OBS " and it will cp harmattan_debian to debian, make the voodoo and delete them15:21
MohammadAGno need to edit both sources15:21
MohammadAGand use dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -sn -S to make tar.gz15:21
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: okay, whatever, just some dependencies are needed by OBS by breaks the building on qtcreator so i use ##OBS in control and rules and than change them15:22
MohammadAGI don't get it, my sources builds fine in Qt Creator and scratchbox15:22
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: for example in qwazix app he needs libfcam-dev for OBS but it can't find it on QtCreator ( though i installed it with mad-admin)15:23
MohammadAGif you installed it correctly it should work15:23
MohammadAGyou properly installed the -dev package without the actual lib package15:24
MohammadAGxdpkg ignores deps15:24
ZogG_laptopmaybe, but i feel more comfy with just running script that uatomagically makes me happy15:26
MohammadAGI don't :P15:27
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khertan__n130i write the script that automagically make me happy :)15:34
ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: sudo fap_script15:35
khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, ?15:36
ZogG_laptopyou said it makes you happy15:37
ZogG_laptopit was joke, nvm15:37
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, now I get what you mean15:41
MohammadAGxdpkg doesn't add the needed lines to the dpkg status file15:41
MohammadAGthis is a bug in xdpkg15:41
MohammadAGadding the lines manually fixes the issue15:41
MohammadAGtime to add some basic animation to sociality15:47
MohammadAGmake it look less shitty overall :D15:47
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: how you do it btw? i mean you are not desinger or something15:53
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, do what? :P15:54
ZogG_laptopanimations and icons and UI15:55
ZogG_laptopI think i need to read the source of sociality just to bump little bit experience =)15:56
ZogG_laptopas i would understand only small part =P15:56
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MohammadAGZogG_laptop, it's MTF, not QML16:34
MohammadAGanimations are done by Qt's animation framework16:35
MohammadAGit's easy16:35
Lava_CroftMTF is fast16:35
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Lava_Croftanyone here got a nexus7?16:39
PaliHi, who know more official harmattan repositories, add it here:
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Palihere are mirror.list for all maemo releses for apt-mirror16:47
Paliwhat I did not found is OVI apt repository for harmattan16:48
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MohammadAG does this work for anyone?17:06
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MohammadAGworks now, nvm17:08
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paok, any idea why, in qml,    y = -30 works, but - toppage.intproperty does not?17:30
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MohammadAGarcean, ping17:36
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arceanMohammadAG, pong17:43
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arceanMohammadAG, thanks, I'll merge this later :)17:49
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MohammadAGarcean, thanks :)17:54
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ZogG_laptopPali: there are onnly nokia, dev from nokia and apps4meego reps afaik. all others are non official18:03
ZogG_laptopbut rzr repo is good one18:03
phako meh18:06
phakowhich of that 120 variants that spits out is 001?18:06
pajonni, ping? im still struggling with requesting UID::root for a script :(18:06
ZogG_laptopphako: gonna flesh ah?18:06
phakoZogG_laptop: yeah18:06
ZogG_laptoppa: what you want from script?18:07
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ZogG_laptopphako: there was url of image here n channel the release day. let google it =)18:07
paZogG_laptop, i want it to write in a file root:root rw-r--r--18:07
phako16 is one18:07
pathis is my manifest18:08
pabut if i run the script from the console, it doesnt work, and i get permission denied on the echo "" >18:08
ZogG_laptopphako: 15:45.55Sazpaimon
ZogG_laptopphako: i actually found it via google via log of channel18:10
ZogG_laptopit's global for 16gb but i flashed mine 64gb with it18:10
MohammadAGpa, what's brightness handler doing?18:10
MohammadAGif it's changing display brightness you should use the gconf key18:11
ZogG_laptoppa: and did you do chmod +x on it?18:11
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MohammadAGthat too18:12
ZogG_laptoppa: do you use post script to make chmod +x YOUR_SCRIPT ?18:13
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paso no i dont chmod it18:19
pabut i read somewhere that it is not really necessary18:19
phakoZogG_laptop: thx18:19
paand MohammadAG , it writes into  sys/..../display0/brightness18:20
ZogG_laptopphako: btw did you see about your script i use it for control file as well. i sed all dir =)18:20
ZogG_laptoppa: you can't execute script if itsnot executable18:20
MohammadAGpa, use gconf for brightness18:20
phakoZogG_laptop: ah. well18:20
paZogG_laptop, actually it wors18:20
pai mean i can execute it18:21
paMohammadAG, gconf? aha.. can i?18:21
ZogG_laptoppa: so ./script works ?18:21
ZogG_laptopon phone, not after copy but install itself?18:21
MohammadAGchanging brightness via sysfs is dirty18:21
paZogG_laptop, yes ./script works, but it returns permission denied on the command within18:21
ZogG_laptopif so than aegis persimission is the problem18:21
paah if gconf works you solved my problems :)18:22
MohammadAGm_brightnessGConfItem = new GConfItem("/system/osso/dsm/display/display_brightness");18:22
paMohammadAG, how many brightness level you get that way?18:22
MohammadAGis what you need to do18:22
MohammadAGpa, default 518:22
MohammadAGyou get that with m_brightnessSlider->setRange(1, GConfItem("/system/osso/dsm/display/max_display_brightness_levels", this).value().toInt());18:23
pawell i could use also qmsystem i think (that is what im using now)18:23
pathe problem is: i cant get as low as i get with sysfs18:23
palike if u set 1 into display0/brightness , it gets really low brightenss18:23
panot the same as with setDisplayBrightnessValue of MeeGo::QmDisplayState18:24
pathats why i want to write in that file18:24
paZogG_laptop, maybe aegis is the problem, but have u seen my manifest? what do i do wrong?18:25
ZogG_laptoppa: i dunno =)18:26
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pahow do we align rotated elements in qml?18:51
pai mean does top becomes something else, or top is the top after rotation?18:51
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pacan someone tell me why, if i place a label within a rectangle, this bloody label gets placed god only knows where?20:02
ZogG_laptoppa: u need to set where to place it20:07
ZogG_laptoppa: what are you doing there?20:07
paim tring to place labels around the page20:08
pabut they dont want to stitch to where i place them20:08
ZogG_laptoppa: hmm, and how you place them?20:08
paso i have a row, and inside i have a column, with a rectangle {image}, and below a label rotated -9020:09
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ZogG_laptoppa: and ?20:10
ZogG_laptopshow screenshot and code maybe20:10
pabtw, do u guys use the simulator?20:11
ZogG_laptopstimulator :)20:11
ZogG_laptopi just deploy code to phone and check it there20:11
padoesnt it take ages every time20:11
* phako runs in sb20:12
ZogG_laptopi don't have sb20:12
ZogG_laptoppa: just don't rerun for small changes and check after several fixes20:13
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tommapa, i run and test ui and everything else i can on dekstop21:40
tommalot faster than testing on device and easier than sb21:41
patomma, desktop means desktop or simulator?21:48
pai use simulator coz its quite fast, but some things do not match 100% to what happens on the device/emulator21:48
tommadesktop with harmattan qml components21:53
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befordtomma: do you have any guide to install harmattan qml components on desktop?22:50
rzru mean meego ones ?22:51
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ZogG_laptopbeford: rzr sup guys23:00
befordhey ZogG_laptop23:01
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ZogG_laptopgood that is good23:01
ZogG_laptopbtw i got nice cloak at irc like others23:02
ZogG_laptopnow i'm funtoo/user/ZogG =P23:02
befordgot this weird call this morning at 7:00 am, looked like an international number23:02
ZogG_laptopbeford: not me23:02
ZogG_laptopbeford: you got your phone right?23:02
befordno idea who called me23:02
befordnot yey23:02
ZogG_laptopbeford: and tracking number?23:03
befordnothing, nada23:03
befordshould I ask quim?23:03
ZogG_laptopbeford: is your name here?
befordyes :D23:04
ZogG_laptopthan it's okay23:04
ZogG_laptopbtw do you know if its n9 or n950?23:04
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befordI asked for n95023:04
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ZogG_laptopbeford: what is on the post?23:04
tommabeford, qmake && make && make install23:04
befordFernando, that's me23:05
ZogG_laptopbeford: nice23:05
tommaoh there was configure script... ./configure -prefix=/usr -meego -symbian -nomake examples -nomake demos -nomake tests23:06
tommaand then make && make install23:06
befordtomma: where did you get them from? here?23:06
befordthanks! I will give it a try23:07
phakobeford: you need the content of the blanco theme23:07
tommawhich can be fetched from device23:08
rzri guess they are in meego netbook distro ?23:09
tommahmm... seems like i have done symlink to sdk install23:10
rzrbeford, what distro are you targeting ?23:11
befordmac os23:11
rzrfreedom hater !23:11
befordI'll get some linux running on this thing soon hopefully23:12
ZogG_laptopbeford: heard that story23:14
befordI have some ubuntu already :p23:14
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befordubuntu vm, I'm thing about working on tranmission control ZogG_laptop23:15
ZogG_laptopbeford: you want to dual boot macos copycat along with macos?23:15
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faenilwhat's wrong with this?23:25
faenilit seems width isn't correctly set all the times23:25
faenilas if bindings weren't working properly23:25
faenilbasically without - 10 everything works23:25
faenilwith -10, it doesn't work anymore, it doesn't update the width with the last value, and keeps a negative value instead23:26
faenil(real width is positive, even with -10 of course)23:26
faenildoes anyone know what's wrong with it ? It's a simple text element...23:26
ZogG_laptopfaenil: try to replace with anchors -5 maybe?23:26
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faenilZogG_laptop, ?23:32
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ZogG_laptopfaenil: or anchors.left23:39
ZogG_laptopor there is horizontal and bertical one as well i think23:40
faenilanchoors are not numbers23:40
ZogG_laptop anchors.margins23:41
ZogG_laptop anchors.leftMargin: 523:42
ZogG_laptop        anchors.rightMargin: 523:42
heymaster-laptopbeford: (y)23:43
befordheymaster-laptop: hola!23:43
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: is it ass or boobs?23:44
heymaster-laptopbeford: hi. good if you work on that ptoject :)23:44
heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: it's Skype emotion. don't know it ? :)23:45
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: not using skype and best smiles are «:P» and such23:45
ZogG_laptopor maybe ☺23:46
befordits a yes with the thumb finger23:46
heymaster-laptopif you write it in FB chat, you will get "thumbs up" aka Like23:46
befordsomething like that, yea23:46
heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: you are fast to find utf8 symbol :)23:47
heymaster-laptoplike you using OS X "Special Characters" :)23:47
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: i didnt search for it23:47
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: ☭23:47
heymaster-laptopit renders correctly :)23:48
ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: it's just few i remember. composite key is awesome thing yu know if you use linux23:48
ZogG_laptop½ =)23:48
ZogG_laptoplemme try to remeber more23:48
ZogG_laptop© ™ ®23:48
heymaster-laptopok :)23:48
ZogG_laptopi dunno, i always forget23:49
ZogG_laptopi mostly use it for — and «»23:49
heymaster-laptopyes, russian uses much «»23:50
heymaster-laptopif i remember correctly23:50
ZogG_laptopnot really. thye mostly use first down and second up23:51
ZogG_laptop,,like this"23:52
ZogG_laptopbut properly23:52
heymaster-laptopwe uses too. we can't use ""23:52
faenilZogG_laptop, that doesn't make sense23:52
ZogG_laptopfaenil: what?23:53
faenilbecause I have nothiung to anchorleft it to23:53
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ZogG_laptopfaenil: parent?23:58

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