IRC log of #harmattan for Thursday, 2012-07-26

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chem|stwtf is parvez shaik?00:29
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patheres really no way to use fancy fonts on harmattan, right?00:38
pai mean, on qt creator designer i can select fonts00:38
pabut in the app the font is always the same00:38
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jonnipa: you can change the font with font.family00:40
jonnipa: and you can load custom fonts with FontLoader:
gabriel9check this out00:42
paah great thanks00:42
jonnigabriel9: thats already been talked in tmo, requirest nfc to be enabled (which its not by default), requires bluetooth to be on (atleast I dont keep it on), requires touching the phone, since nfc antenna is so crappy :)00:43
jonnirequires even00:43
gabriel9i did not check tmo00:43
pajonni, does it support otf?00:44
jonnipa: afaik yes, but I havent tested otf fonts00:45
Corsacwhat exactly is “pairing bluetooth through nfc”?00:46
jonniCorsac: most likely it just means SPP00:49
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jonni(Secure Simple Pairing):
jonnibasicly just nfc tag, which holds the mac address and common key, very simplified00:50
jonniread spec for details :)00:51
SchturmanHello averyone. I got malf when trying to change UA in my N9. I read somewhere that I can access to my phone via R&D mode, I tried this.. After running this command: flasher --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset  I connected my phone and I see Nokia logo and sign of key and nothing else.. Can someone explain me how I can restore grob file without refrlashing ? I don't want open mode that we get via using this method00:55
jonniSchturman: your only option is openmode or reflashing if you have broken grob's sha1sum. There is one other way (if you would know someone working for Nokia), but it would require hardware that you dont have.00:58
jonniso in short if you want secure mode, you need to reflash.00:59
SchturmanOk, I understand.. Thanks jonni00:59
jonnithat lifeguard reset only works on situations of misstyped config files that arent protected by refhashlist.00:59
SchturmanAaaa, ok..01:01
HtheBwill you add automatic nightmode to drive?01:01
HtheBin your script01:01
HtheBoh and by the way, got 1 problem01:01
HtheBgood that youre here now01:01
HtheBI installed this on the N95001:02
SchturmanI go to reflash now :)01:02
HtheB(hang on, finding link 4 u)01:02
HtheBu still here while reflashing?01:02
Schturmanyes i'm here01:02
SchturmanI still not started01:03
HtheBso, if I want to install mttoggles with your script, it wont allow it01:04
HtheBgives me this error01:06
HtheBsystem-ui-extensions is in strijd met unrestricted-system-ui01:06
HtheB(is in strijd means it conflicts)01:06
SchturmanYes sure... the system ui extansion is deferent app that you need to install on original system ui01:09
HtheBby the way, you can add this to your script too, it allows to rotate some apps like the settings menu, calculator, store...01:09
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HtheBI couldnt fix this :/ couldnt find out how to force install it01:10
SchturmanThe rotation of original app in to do list, maybe i will add  this to 8.601:10
HtheBnice :)01:10
HtheBI found some typo btw01:11
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HtheBit says LANSCAPE instead of landscape :p01:11
HtheBdont remeber which option it was though01:11
SchturmanBecause of reflash now I will release v 8.5 later, 1-2 days, i think...01:12
HtheBno rush :)01:12
Schturmango to reflash, bye for now :)01:13
HtheBalright :)01:13
HtheBfix the typo :p01:13
HtheBin your script, lol01:13
Schturmanhmm in which tweak ? :D01:13
HtheBsearch for lanscape :p01:14
HtheBin your script01:14
HtheBhang on, ill check :D01:14
HtheBdamn, cant find it01:16
HtheBwhich options has 'landscape' options01:16
HtheBlol, which options has landscape functions01:17
SchturmanA,B,W don't remember :P01:19
HtheBi should have wrote it down...01:19
HtheBtypo found!01:19
HtheBchange clock01:20
HtheBnumber 1001:20
HtheBwihte instead of white :p01:20
SchturmanOk, I will chaeck :) thanks01:20
HtheBbut thats another typo though :p01:21
SchturmanOK :) I flashed... Oh.. now i need to reinstall all app :(01:21
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HtheBgoing to sleep now01:24
HtheBkinda late :(01:24
HtheBgood luck on installing crAPPS01:24
Schturmanthanks :P01:24
HtheBhehhe nite!01:25
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ZogG_laptopSchturman: privet =)01:25
Schturmangood night01:25
SchturmanHi ZogG01:25
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padoes qml buttons have a signal pressed()?01:39
palike if i press but not release01:39
pa(!= pressandhold)01:39
alteregoonPressed ..01:40
alteregoffs give up :)01:40
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panot sure there is onPressed01:43
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paah ok, it is "onPressedChanged"01:44
pathat does both01:44
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merlin1991phew compiling qt takes forever01:59
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padoes anyone know on which experimental repo the qtlocation  offline map plugin is?02:07
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paok, so it seems there is a declarative Map component02:35
paand there is an "offline mode"02:35
pabut even with the "nokia" plugin on PR1.3, it doesnt work02:35
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admiral0i just love nitdroid users <302:44
admiral0so easy to flame02:44
pawhere are the desktop files kept in harmattan?02:45
Oni^/usr/share/applications ?02:46
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payep found :)03:01
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itsnotabigtruckqwazix: ...maybe04:22
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ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: is pr1.4 out?04:29
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merlin1991wtf building qt4-x11 for 3 hrs at the same qdoc3 step04:49
merlin1991qemu utilizing 99% of the system and seemingly nothing happens04:49
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: i'm gonna try to update n9/50 kernel to 3.5, are you with me? =)04:54
merlin1991atm building pr1.2 sdk packages from source04:55
merlin1991because I want to build some controlpanel widgets, which in turn need libmeegotouch > pr1.1 which in turn needs qt4 > 1.104:55
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: hmm04:56
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: waht version do you need?04:57
itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: lol04:57
ZogG_laptoplibmeegotouch-dev_0.22.12-1+0m6_armel.deb good enuf?04:57
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: old jokes are like wine, only became better wth time =P04:58
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: there are built packages, but i bet you need dependencies as well =)04:58
merlin1991I need >= 0.24.304:59
ZogG_laptopthan it wouldn't help you04:59
merlin1991aka pr1.204:59
ZogG_laptopi'm going to sleep =)04:59
merlin1991I've got the feeling, that this build is stuck05:03
merlin1991file size of the dir isn't increasing :/05:04
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: oh before i go i have a question05:08
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: do you think if CSSU we need to keep aegis and inception to make updates or open-mode?05:09
merlin1991ZogG_laptop: it's an either or thing05:09
merlin1991we keep aegis, and either make a new policy using inception, or the same using open-mode05:10
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: what's better and whats easier05:10
merlin1991I'd say equal05:10
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: as there are things we lose with open-mode actually05:10
merlin1991err what?05:10
merlin1991last time I ran open mode nothing was missing05:11
ZogG_laptopi think it was some passwords are not saved or something05:11
merlin1991that depends on how you deploy open mode05:11
merlin1991if you do it properly you miss nothing05:11
ZogG_laptopi don't remember as i never wanted to use open-mode anyway05:11
ZogG_laptopas well open-mode means to go back to pr1.2 for now as 1.3 source is not there yet afaik05:11
merlin1991there is a kernel for 1.3 open mode05:12
ZogG_laptopo =k friday i'll try to updgrade kernel and keep all nokia changes, we'll see if i have enuf knowledge and if it's possible05:12
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itsnotabigtruckyeah, merlin's right05:16
itsnotabigtruckit would use one or the other05:16
itsnotabigtruckboth have some advantages05:16
itsnotabigtruckopen mode would make it possible to improve the kernel05:17
itsnotabigtruckwithout some extreme hackage, anyway05:17
itsnotabigtruckclosed mode would make device lock and all that stuff just work05:17
itsnotabigtruckand in general make the whole thing a lot simpler05:17
MohammadAG wohoo06:23
merlin1991hm still running the same shit06:24
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chem|stgrmlfsck! bootstate normal bootreason pwr_key... I think gsm module is restarting and not the device (this time), it is asking me for PIN code in the morning eery now and then10:13
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DocScrutinizer06I'd think for HARM there's more benefit in a hacker edition than in a CSSU10:17
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DocScrutinizer06since HARM could use a major system overhaul to kick out aegis stuff for good10:18
DocScrutinizer06there's still nobody who explained to me the user's benefit in forbidding installation of certain stuff from other than OVI source10:20
DocScrutinizer06I mean, fine! öet OVI check packages for any rogue stuff, I wouldn't expect any malware in OVIstore anyway. No matter if it comes with a manifest and cert or not10:21
deramthey probably fear troyans10:22
infobotDocScrutinizer06 meant: I mean, fine! let OVI check packages for any rogue stuff, I wouldn't expect any malware in OVIstore anyway. No matter if it comes with a manifest and cert or not10:22
DocScrutinizer06but form a *user* perspective I still fail to see aegis benefit, no matter how much some others here say "DUH! but it's a nice security thing for user!"10:23
DocScrutinizer06nothing I couldn't do on a regular *nix system, with regular proper user permissions10:24
DocScrutinizer06and groups10:24
DocScrutinizer06and probably now somebody kicks in and claims "but they cracked some HTTP server! This proves admins are idiots and unix permissions don't suffice" and I'll go "MEH!" again10:25
DocScrutinizer06since that "rationale" only proves one thing: said person might have some ideas about how to implement a chain-of-trust based framework ala TC, but they have NO CLUE about system administration10:27
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PaliDocScrutinizer06, do you know some case for n950 (like cp-408 for n900)?10:27
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kairoscraziaI've got a silly question, downgrade is disallowed by nolo, nokia provide sources for nolo? if not why noone was never interested on figuring how to downgrade?10:53
Paliwhat about nandwrite in open mode?10:57
kairoscraziaif i can recall it right in open mode on pr1.2 flashing files is disabled11:00
kairoscraziaw/o certs11:00
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infobotAll conversations are logged to Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily.11:24
Palikairoscrazia, but you have access to /dev/mtd* in open mode11:27
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DocScrutinizer06Pali: aiui read-only though11:34
DocScrutinizer06at least CAL11:35
Paliand nolo? cannot be replaced via nandwrite from open mode?11:36
Palior is /dev/mtd locked for write from open mode?11:36
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DocScrutinizer51Pali: NOLO needs signature12:04
DocScrutinizer51but it might be downgrade'able12:04
DocScrutinizer51not sure which /dev/mtd* are locked and which aren't12:05
PaliI think that if I copy (nanddump) nolo from (<< PR1.2) it should contains full bootable code with signature12:05
Paliso this code should be bootable always by omap HW12:05
Palimaybe writing to /dev/mtd<NOLO> is disabled in kernel, but this can be fixed in open kernel12:06
DocScrutinizer51unless it checks for compliance with version of cmt fw, yes12:07
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Paliin n900 kernel it is locked by kernel, /dev/mtd<bootloader> is marked as readonly12:07
DocScrutinizer51and no, the problem is it's locked in openmode12:07
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Palimaybe same readonly flag in kernel12:08
Paliwhich can be fixed by recompiling kernel12:08
DocScrutinizer51you're free to test with 1.2 kernel at least12:08
DocScrutinizer51I thought same but others who should know stated it probably is on hw level12:09
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Palisee n900 kernel:;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-rx51-peripherals.c;h=df2534de3361d5b9c2317db5cec7222e5993d2fb;hb=HEAD#l107412:10
Pali"bootloader" /* Force read-only */12:11
DocScrutinizer51meh, for sure not now, on N90012:11
DocScrutinizer51rather I'm afk now - work12:11
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jonnibootloader nand is locked in lower level, there is noway to switch that bit from custom kernel.12:23
jonnionly way for you to get bootloader as rw is to get your custom kernel signed by nokia master key in certsw. And that isnt going to happen.12:27
jonnior actually you need to get your custom nolo signed, its not enough to even get the kernel signed :)12:31
whatsais that possible to dump bootloader's code?12:35
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jonniwell yes you can dump nolo partition since its readonly, so you can do binary analysis to it and decompilation.12:36
jonniso if your fluent in reading obscure assembly dumps then you can have fun trying to figure it out :)12:38
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jonnilast year I spend few days reading nolo source codes, it was pretty interesting piece of code :)12:43
whatsaugh, usual users aren't that lucky :) I hate arm assembly...12:49
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Palijonni, did you had access to nolo source code & master key?13:01
jonniPali: heh, no, only sources, nobody has access to master key for obvious reasons, and only a very few selected people have access to signing servers.13:05
Palitry to remember some security holes in nolo sources :D13:06
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Palijonni, did you also see n900 x-loader/nolo sources?13:07
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: morning13:59
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ZogG_laptopfaenil: Hurrian morning14:02
faenilhey :)14:02
ZogG_laptopfaenil: so OBS today?14:02
HurrianZogG_laptop, evening ;)14:02
faenilZogG_laptop, when alterego feels like it :)14:03
ZogG_laptopfaenil: may you do some howto in case i miss it14:04
faenilZogG_laptop, I think reading the log is the best thing, but yes I can help you ;)14:04
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khertanWouhou ! PyPackager now support creation of manifest and digsigsums for aegis14:26
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khertanpypackager code is really crappy14:26
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khertani really need to refactor it one day14:26
khertandpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: aegis-builder (>= 1.4)14:28
khertandpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.14:28
chem|stZogG_laptop: did qwazix miss to commit pcam?14:40
ZogG_laptopchem|st: ?14:41
chem|stHurrian: one of the meego error handling guys had the device before me14:41
Hurrianchem|st, explains a lot14:41
Hurriandid he ask for it back?14:41
chem|stZogG_laptop: ehrm am I talking about the wrong guy? rawcam...14:41
chem|stHurrian: I did not tell him anything yet14:42
chem|stZogG_laptop: I thought the issues with OBS got fixed but there was nothing new to test...14:42
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i got it, i just didn't understand what commit you talking about exactly. i pushed to harmattan repo the changes he needed to work with qtcreator and OBS14:42
ZogG_laptopchem|st: it was fixed, there is build in my repo that works14:43
ZogG_laptopchem|st: did he released new version?14:43
chem|stso not in rzr yet?14:43
merlin1991hm qt is still at the same step14:44
merlin1991something is wrong here14:44
chem|stmerlin1991: waiting for 5.x?14:44
merlin1991but I need this :D14:44
chem|stor building something and it hangs?14:44
merlin1991yep building qt4 and it hangs14:44
rzrchem|st, its on my list14:45
ZogG_laptopchem|st: rzr build it other way14:45
rzrbut the message about downgrade incompatibility scared me :)14:45
chem|strzr: o/14:45
ZogG_laptopchem|st: just download it and install it14:45
chem|strzr: I was just wondering as he said he will push it the next day14:45
rzrping me later i will rebuild14:46
rzrchem|st, u can install sudo on my repo too14:46
ZogG_laptoprzr: you can rebuild the way i did. it works with no permission issues14:46
rzrbut donno how safe we are going14:46
chem|strzr: what downgrade incompatibility?14:46
rzrhe reported about that14:46
rzrZogG_laptop, using qtcreator ?14:46
rzri will use obs and sb14:46
ZogG_laptoprzr: nope. i use qtcreators dir to make debian dir with control file i stoled from you =)14:47
rzrcan we talk about this in 4 or 5 hours ?14:47
ZogG_laptoprzr: i commited to harmattan repo script generate-obs-source it copies qtc_packaging/harmattan_debian to debian and uncomments all OBS only related stuff14:48
ZogG_laptoprzr: sure14:48
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ZogG_laptoprzr: i think it's the best way to do, and i want to explain to you, so next time you help people we go with single debian dir =P14:49
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patehdely, ping?15:32
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khertan aegis-builder isn't available in COBS ?15:53
khertandpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: aegis-builder15:53
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: it is there16:00
khertanhum ... didn't understand what i m doing wrong here16:01
khertanthx for the answer ZogG_laptop16:01
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: $ grep aegis control  libmdatauri-dev, aegis-builder16:01
ZogG_laptopkhertan: what are you trying to build16:04
ZogG_laptopkhertan: i may try to help you16:04
khertani'm trying to add aegis support to PyPackager16:04
ZogG_laptopkhertan: show me the source16:05
khertanhum ... be carreful you could lose an eye16:06
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: or two16:06
khertanor two indeed16:07
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: Depends="python2.5, python2.5-hildon, python2.5-gtk2", ?16:09
ZogG_laptopkhertan: where is other dependencies?16:09
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khertanZogG_laptop: aegis is in build depends16:11
khertanyep indeed hildon isn't necessary anymore16:11
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Arkenoidamn. i see how i can add a certificate, but no way to remove a certificate!16:12
ZogG_laptopkhertan: can't find aegis there, you missed it?16:12
khertanZogG_laptop: where did you found python2.5-hildon dependances ?16:12
ZogG_laptopkhertan: link me to aegis16:13
khertanah this is just a test16:14
khertani should remove this old code16:14
khertan(and refine all this tools :)16:14
khertancrappy code16:14
ZogG_laptopkhertan: add aegis-builder there16:14
ZogG_laptopkhertan: can you try to run it and show the control?16:15
khertanbut ... it s a build depends, not depends16:15
khertanyep of course16:15
ZogG_laptopkhertan: it's in Build-Depends:16:16
Arkenoihey what about certificate, maybe there is a command line tool to manage it?16:17
khertanZogG_laptop: yeah of course it s in build-depends ... this is where it should be16:17
khertanas it s for building the package16:18
* ZogG_laptop is happy that he fkuced with building his app to OBS16:18
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: try to add pkg-config, thought it seems ok16:18
khertanyou mean build-depends isn't working as it should16:19
ZogG_laptopkhertan: and update maybe debhelper (>= 5) to 7. i have debhelper (>= 8.0.0)16:19
gabriel9|workdoes gtalk works on your devices?16:20
khertandebhelper 5 is available on maemo ?16:20
khertani mean fremantle16:20
ZogG_laptopgabriel9|work: it worked last time i checked back at pr1.216:20
ZogG_laptopkhertan: no idea, i only package for harmattan16:21
gabriel9|worki get network error16:21
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khertanZogG_laptop: it s take me less time to create a tool that mimic aegis-builder on device than using the existing one on obs :)16:22
ZogG_laptopkhertan: just try what i said16:23
khertanZogG_laptop: i'm trying ;)16:23
ZogG_laptopkhertan: use  debhelper (>= 7), pkg-config,  aegis-builder16:24
ZogG_laptopkhertan: i can play with it. how do you prepare dsc and tar.gz16:26
ZogG_laptopor you use it for other package?16:26
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khertanZogG_laptop: i prepare with running python make.py16:27
khertanit s a self building tool :)16:27
ZogG_laptopkhertan: you build it or other package with it16:27
* ZogG_laptop is noob at python, but it's good chance to learn16:28
khertani build it16:28
khertanonce it s ok i ll build other packages :)16:28
ZogG_laptopkhertan: ok16:29
ZogG_laptopi'll fork your repo and try to find the ritual dance to build it16:29
ZogG_laptopyou know it's hard to please OBS god =)16:29
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khertanZogG_laptop: pkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: pkg-config aegis-builder16:31
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khertanZogG_laptop: what is your obs pseudo16:32
khertanand the package which use obs16:32
khertani ll take a look at it16:32
khertansee what i miss16:32
ZogG_laptopkhertan: the generate-obs-source copy it to /debian and uncomment ##OBS lines16:36
ZogG_laptopkhertan: btw can you paste rule file?16:36
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ZogG_laptopSpeedEvil: where is TabletEvil?16:39
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khertanZogG_laptop: yep launch it with 'python'16:43
khertannot ./make.py16:43
khertani should fix that too :)16:43
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: same error16:44
khertanah ...16:45
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khertanof course the build script is path dependant16:45
khertanlook inside the script16:45
khertanthere is a line with /home/user/MyDocs/Projects/PyPackager16:45
khertanchange it to your path16:45
khertani should remove that too ;)16:46
khertannot really clean16:46
Arkenoidamn. is there a way to export certificate from the storage at least? why is it all that overcomplicated?16:47
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Corsachmhm, how do I select some text in Fenix?16:48
khertanZogG_laptop: you can checkout from git repo ... i fixed the path in the make.py16:48
khertanZogG_laptop: thx i ve forgot that it s could be a problem too :)16:49
ZogG_laptopkhertan: btw how do i make the fork to be updated with original?16:50
ZogG_laptopnever got a chance to do it16:50
khertanhum ... good question :)16:51
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khertani really should create a git cheatsheet16:52
ZogG_laptopkhertan: that's what i though16:53
ZogG_laptopkhertan: we just needto use it more =)16:53
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: i think you should make clone to harmattan organization and merge both ways with yours, that way both can use it =)16:54
khertanZogG_laptop: i ve started to do that with KhtNotes16:56
khertanother repo i use will follow16:56
ZogG_laptopkhertan: just both to .git/config16:57
khertan~/MyDocs/Projects/PyPackager $ cat ../KhtNotes/.git/config16:57
khertan        repositoryformatversion = 016:57
khertan        filemode = false16:57
khertan        bare = false16:57
khertan        logallrefupdates = true16:57
khertan        symlinks = false16:57
khertan        ignorecase = true16:57
khertan[remote "origin"]16:57
khertan        fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*16:57
khertan        url =
khertan    url =
khertan[branch "master"]16:57
khertan        remote = origin16:57
ZogG_laptopkhertan: nope16:57
ZogG_laptopkhertan: git remote add harmattan url =
ZogG_laptopwithout url16:58
ZogG_laptop/s/without url/without url =/16:58
khertanthe result is the same :) it put the url in remote :)16:58
ZogG_laptopkhertan: yes but it updates both at the same time16:59
ZogG_laptopyou want to test in your repo and merge to harmattan only stable or oposite16:59
khertanah ... yep indeed16:59
ZogG_laptopand if i push changes to harmattan it would differ from your and it would make mess16:59
Arkenoiand seems that i found a reason why i cannot connect to my wifi: i was unable to import my root certificate. it says it is imported, but it never appears on the list16:59
ZogG_laptopArkenoi: open-mode17:00
khertanand yes, true, probably better to push only stable to harmattan17:01
ZogG_laptopkhertan: or we can make dev branch17:02
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khertanZogG_laptop: also :)17:03
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khertanZogG_laptop: ok ... putting aegis-builder in depends and removing it from build-depends look like working17:06
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khertanbut i didn't see any reference to aegis after builddep17:09
khertanmy rules seems incorrect17:10
ZogG_laptopkhertan: yes i think so too. but i need to play around more17:13
ZogG_laptopas i don't know python almost at all17:14
khertanand because the code is really crappy :) u can say it :)17:17
ZogG_laptopi can't as i don't know python17:18
ZogG_laptopi can understand parts here and there17:18
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pahow important is that an app is robust, to participate to the coding competition/community award?17:31
paand, am i still in time to submit mine?17:31
ZogG_laptopkhertan: lemme finish last episode of office i have17:31
ZogG_laptoppa: i think you can submit , but CA is over17:31
pawasnt it till mid august?17:32
ZogG_laptoppa: there is new dev entery i think, check wiki17:32
ZogG_laptoppa: CA devices were sent already =)17:32
pashit... i'd really need an n9, as i got one stolen17:32
paso no devices are left?17:32
khertanthe best way next time ... try to be in the council17:33
khertan.... ... ...17:33
pain any case, to participate i just have to post my app on tmo?17:33
khertanand the wiki17:34
paand the wiki...17:34
khertanand when site web is ready17:34
pawell, i'll finish it, and ask again,as im not sure what wiki :)17:34
khertanon the wiki web site17:34
khertanread the rule17:35
pai just hope i dont have to use the opem build syustem17:35
khertanhaha why ?17:35
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pait's scary17:35
khertanit s easy to use ... once you don't play with aegis file :)17:35
* Arkenoi tries to figure out wtf is it: and i cannot even delete it! fuck harmattan "security"!17:35
khertanare you coding in python ?17:35
pano, c++ , but i had to add somethings on the manifest17:36
khertanArkenoi: what 's the problem with this certs ?17:36
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Arkenoikhertan, looks very suspicious for me -- but i cannot export it, cannot see any details and cannot delete it!17:37
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Arkenoibecause harmattan uses some weird stuff to store certificates instead of generic wat17:37
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khertanArkenoi: it s a certificate for the domain which is used for exchange17:42
Arkenoikhertan, yes. but HOW can i see if it is authenitc if i cannot even export it? And if it is not i cannot remove it? Damn17:42
khertanArkenoi: fingerprint is ok17:44
khertanenter domain
khertanand verify SHA1 Thumbprint = 09120783020C90473B4F058282BFBC1C3478DB0A17:44
khertanwith what you have on your screen17:44
ZogG_laptopArkenoi: what version you have17:44
Arkenoithen why damn n950 a) imported it as separate one and b) does not show issuer name?17:46
ArkenoiZogG_laptop, pr1.217:46
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Arkenoibtw that's funny, openssl s_client -showcert gives a different certificate for me17:47
Arkenoimust be host name extension17:47
ZogG_laptopArkenoi: pr1.2beta17:48
ZogG_laptopArkenoi: i think there was certificate bug that was fixed in pr1.317:48
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ZogG_laptopsup sup17:53
ZogG_laptopyo dog :P17:54
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ArkenoiZogG_laptop, i wonder if i am going to ever see pr1.3 if it does not imply visiting Nokia office and asking for inofficial updates18:03
khertanArkenoi: what will be the point to visit Nokia office ? there isn't any MeeGo devel :)18:04
khertanso do not hope any n950 pr1.3 nor n9 pr1.418:05
HtheBZogG_laptop, sup18:05
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Arkenoikhertan, but there are some guys who get internal releases and may share if you ask them kindly :-)18:09
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ZogG_laptopArkenoi: i don't think we gonna get, hoping for CSSU18:17
ZogG_laptopHtheB: nothing, you?18:17
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DrGrovSorry, probably wrong channel but I tend to ask anyhow. Please redirect me to the appropriate channel if I am OT. Does anyone got any info about the company Jolla making the new MeeGo phone? I have had problems finding any good reliable information.18:19
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ArkenoiZogG_laptop, it is said there is internal release already, so it is question of getting it public, not development18:19
ZogG_laptopArkenoi: i know and i want it, but i want a lot of things18:20
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HtheBZogG_laptop, having chill time on my vacation18:29
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ZogG_laptopkhertan: i'm here18:31
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khertani ll go on ... in few minutes :)18:32
HtheBMohammadAG, is there a way to pack pr13 for n950?18:32
HtheBrepack pre pr12 with pr13 stuff in it18:32
ZogG_laptopkhertan: i'm finally free18:33
ZogG_laptopkhertan: gonna check soon18:33
MohammadAGPressure Nokia to release it instead18:33
MohammadAGIt's out internally18:34
MohammadAGOne only needs a link/lea18:34
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: there are people who have pr1.3 sources as well, sooo?18:34
khertanmust go on ...18:35
khertanbye all18:35
MohammadAGZogG_laptop: Aegis18:35
HtheBto all users with pr13 on n950, please ''leak'' it for everybody...18:35
MohammadAGSigned keenels18:35
MohammadAGUsers used repo upgrade methods18:35
MohammadAGOnly inside Nokians have it18:35
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: no, i mean source of closed sources =P18:36
HtheBwas qgill not a nokian18:36
MohammadAGZogG_laptop: Well, I'm pretty sure nokians have that too obviously18:37
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: there is guy in this exact channel who has it =) but he wouldn't leak, but ready to help if needed btw18:37
HtheBMohammadAG, im sure some people who left nokia just copied the sources18:37
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MohammadAGjonni has the image18:38
HtheBwhats the problem with not releasing it anyway? :/18:38
HtheB(and i mean the image)18:38
ZogG_laptopbeford: hey my man18:44
* ZogG_laptop says sorry to bringing it up and looks at alterego =P18:44
befordhola ZogG_laptop18:49
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Palihi, is FM receiver and transmitter working on n950?19:06
PaliI read that there were some hw problems, but what is current state?19:06
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GeneralAntillesPali, it has no antenna.19:20
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japhrec you can fix yourself transmit is harder :(19:33
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kozziis there really no way of using n9's offline map data in 3rd party apps?19:42
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MilhouseTwitter seems to have fallen on it's arse - thought it was a problem with my device but web down too19:47
rzrMilhouse, let me invite you to :)19:48
MilhouseIs there a client for the N9/N950? :)19:48
rzrthere is19:49
rzrcheck for statusnet19:49
Milhouseooh... why is better than twitter?19:49
rzrthat one is freesoftware19:49
rzrand you own your posts19:49
Milhousek, and is it invite only?19:50
rzrand you can run your own server too19:50
rzrMilhouse, i guess its public too19:50
Milhouseok found the register link19:50
Milhousewill take a look, thanks19:50
rzrand you can connect to also xpost to other unfree platforms19:50
rzrit worth a try19:50
Milhouseokey dokey19:51
Palijaph, how to fix receiver?19:51
Milhouse@rzr: thanks19:51
ElleoMilhouse: <-- is an client19:55
rzrsame one19:56
Elleothere's also yaics but it's not in the store19:56
Elleothat doesn't integrate with the events view though19:57
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Milhouse@Elleo: Thanks19:59
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MilhouseStatusNet integrates with event view?20:00
Elleothe statustnet for meego client does, yeah20:00
MilhouseAh, I see it says it does in the description... :)20:00
Elleoyou need to restart the phone before it takes effect though20:00
Elleodue to events plugins only getting loaded at startup20:01
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rzr ... return of the living dead20:12
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Milhouseas much as we'd all like to believe it, that just ain't gonna happen20:27
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pacan i click a label in qml?20:29
palike can i specify something like "onClicked"?20:29
ieatlintif you put a mousearea on it20:29
paah right20:29
ieatlintLabel { MouseArea { anchors.fill: parent; onClicked: console.log( "clicked!" ); } }20:30
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qwazixI like old maemo but... gregale? really? who wrote that thing?20:34
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saidinesh5hey fellows21:03
saidinesh5i was wondering if anyone could suggest me a good app name21:03
saidinesh5for a port of elFinder to N921:03
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pahow do i check if bluetooth is turned on? :)21:25
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paand also another thing:21:30
pahow can i somehow "store" a qbluethoothdeviceinfo?21:30
paso that i dont have to re-discover it every time21:30
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piggzdoes anyone know if mfe to google has a limit on how far in the future events will sync? seems to me like onle 5-6 weeks22:45
paitsnotabigtruck, ping?22:47
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paits a bit funny to see the contents of .config :)22:56
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