IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2012-07-24

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paa one-liner to make the whole application theme look black?00:20
paim not getthing where to set theme.inverted to true00:21
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paah ok, i cant set it so from the start00:23
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paah thats how :)00:26
paanother thing: any good way to make the toolbar disappear and reappear on demand?00:27
pato have the app in a sort of "full screen" mod?00:27
rzrarcean, is it your app ?00:28
pafor example, you have showtoolbar false,  but how to get it back?00:28
palike on a double tap or something00:28
arceanrzr: yes00:28
arceanappWindow.showToolBar = true ?00:28
rzrask me to rebuild it anytime :)00:28
arceanok :)00:29
paarcean, yep, but on a button? or how would you advice?00:30
arceanButton has onClicked event00:32
arceanconnect showToolbarFunc with it00:32
Estel_epic question00:36
Estel_how one turns out N950?:P Is long-press of power button correct way?00:36
japhit's not so epic00:36
japhI also had to ask00:36
Estel_thanks a lot, I just though that i might have been doing it wrong00:36
Estel_it's nice to know that I wasn't only one, it isn't entirely intuitive00:37
japhwhen I got it it was turned on heh00:37
Estel_mine was off with dead battery00:37
Estel_had to charge it before first try00:37
Estel_why, ah why, they've included those 4 torx's, when we have removable battery?00:37
Estel_do we, yep?00:38
Estel_it isn't soldered internally?00:38
arceanno, it's not00:39
arceanand I recommend BV-4D battery from 808 PureView00:39
Estel_ thanks00:39
japhmaybe there's a difference with the two versions of n950 circulating?00:39
arceanheh, maybe00:40
arceansome #N950 have weak cellular signal00:40
Estel_why so?00:40
Estel_like mine00:40
Estel_unless I hold it upside down00:40
Estel_most of the time00:40
Estel_but I suspect it's about alu body and poor design of antenna's placement00:40
arceanmine is ok, I'm using it with T-Mobile PL00:41
Estel_sometimes, it acts like reflector boosting signal, and sometimes, reflect it before it reaches antenna, depending on waves source, angle, etc00:41
japhhmm idk playing vim works00:41
arceanand it has even better signal than N900:41
Estel_I'm also using T-Mobile PL, overall it's ok, but in one room of my house00:41
Estel_I must keep it at certain angle, and have 70 % of signal00:41
Estel_otherwise, it's 0-10%00:41
paarcean, do you read out also gps in your app?00:41
Estel_also, wifi reception is much worse than in N90000:41
arceanpa: sure00:41
arceanEstel_: N900 > N950 >> N900:42
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pai'll check it out in your code how to do it,  then  :)00:42
arceanpa: np, it's GPL :)00:42
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panow i have to design the main screen00:50
pamaybe i can look at edomondo00:50
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ZogG_laptoparcean: sup00:53
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ZogG_laptoparcean: camdrive is yours?00:53
arceanZogG_laptop: hi00:53
arceanZogG_laptop: btw I made those led notifications configurable through Settings applet00:54
ZogG_laptoparcean: are you russian or there is analog from other dev who is russian00:54
ZogG_laptoparcean: good, push it to MohammadAG's repo00:54
arceanno, I'm from Poland :)00:54
ZogG_laptoparcean: ok, i just think i saw some video registor from russian dev i think00:56
arceanhmm, maybe from vladest00:56
ZogG_laptopnot sure00:56
ZogG_laptopi know only his meecast and few maemo apps00:56
ZogG_laptophim, one girl and wazd00:57
arceanall in all, camdrive has more functions (also important ones) :P00:58
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ZogG_laptoparcean: no license yet00:59
ZogG_laptoparcean: i mean i have no drive license00:59
japhcamdrive is cool :-)00:59
ZogG_laptopjaph: i'm cool :P00:59
arceanjaph: thanks :)00:59
japhnot as cool as arcean00:59
ZogG_laptopjaph: true :\01:00
ZogG_laptopjaph: but it's not nice to point it out01:00
japhis that why I can't make any friends01:00
arceanZogG_laptop: how's your N950? :)01:00
ZogG_laptopjaph: meh, you need to be more cruel to make friends01:00
japhfuck you01:00
paarcean, by chance are you disabling somehow the lock screen?01:01
ZogG_laptoparcean: i have half working funtoo as second boot :P01:01
arceanZogG_laptop: lol :D01:01
ZogG_laptopjaph: exactly01:01
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arceanpa: yes, sec01:01
pai do too01:01
pai was wondering01:01
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paare you by chance disabling the light sensor too?01:01
arceanlight sensor? no :)01:02
paok :)01:02
pai mean the auto brightness01:02
arceanwhy would you do that?01:02
arceanahh, no01:02
pacoz i want to put the brightness to minimum01:02
paand i want it to stay so01:02
arceanthere's a modification/tutorial floating somewhere on TMO01:02
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payes, something about mce.ini01:03
pabut i cant expect the user to fiddle with that..01:03
japhhey we're not your regular users01:03
japhI hope01:03
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pawell even if i would do that as user, i would like the auto brightness back, outside this app01:04
paso you see01:04
pavery uncomf01:04
japhsteal code from BackLighter01:04
pagood idea01:05
paman, it might work!01:06
palet see if it is opensource01:06
pai think its not open source..01:08
japhiirc I found it in the repo01:08
ZogG_laptopbeford: howdy?01:08
ZogG_laptopbeford: did you got funtoo on mac?01:09
pajaph, repo?01:09
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befordhey ZogG_laptop, not yet, I've been busy working01:09
ZogG_laptopbeford: because i have it half working on n950, soooo. i won?01:09
ZogG_laptopbeford: work is over rated01:09
befordno way, you still have problems with the video :P01:09
ZogG_laptopbeford: nope, i got display working01:09
japhpa, it claims to be01:10
ZogG_laptopbeford: it's hacky, but it works. though i need to make changes to kernel parts to make it better. not sure exactly how and what but had help from few people. also e-eyes helped a lot01:11
pajaph, claims to be opensource? the app as such is also on the store01:11
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pai just cant find the sources01:12
pabut it does exactly what i need...01:12
payes thats free :)01:12
japh there's two buttons here. But there's no text...01:12
ZogG_laptopElleo: i was sitting in bar and there was that song from Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking barrels. So i checked your app and it RECOGNIZED it, when i was sitting outside with all noise. and it has recognized really quickly01:12
ZogG_laptoppa send email to author01:13
payes i was going to01:13
japhmaybe it's not that hard to reverse engineer anyway01:13
ZogG_laptopjaph: yes, whole harmattan01:14
ElleoZogG_laptop: awesome :)01:14
japhzogg_laptop, doubt he did that01:15
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ZogG_laptopmacmaN: hmm, i see you on #gentoo-embedded as well. it's funny how many familiur nicks from here i see on other chans01:16
pajaph, how would you reverse?01:17
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chem|stwhere do I lookup reboot reason?01:18
ZogG_laptopchem|st: what do you mean01:19
chem|stthe reason why it rebooted, on n900 it was stored somewhere01:19
ZogG_laptopoh, no idea01:19
ZogG_laptopchem|st: loops?01:19
ZogG_laptopoh random?01:20
chem|stno loops, random reboot01:21
ZogG_laptop and nothing in syslog?01:21
ZogG_laptopchem|st: try to check what you have in /var/log/01:21
pajaph, there is some plain text qml in the binary, but not the part that we need :)01:26
japhare you sure? maybe it's the authors physical adress, might help01:27
pai wrote to the author, yes. but now i was just checking the binary01:28
japhyes I got that, I shouldn't try to be funny this late01:29
pabut is it possible to embed qml into the binary?01:29
pai thought it wasnt01:29
befordyes it is01:29
befordas a resource01:29
paneed to learn about it01:29
rzrhey anyone here wanna test encfs ?01:30
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pait seems the author might be swedish? where else is sonera operating? finland?01:32
chem|strzr: rawcam in OBS is broken01:32
ZogG_laptoprzr: pass for now01:32
ZogG_laptopchem|st: permissions?01:33
Aardrzr: playing with encryption on the n9?01:33
ZogG_laptopchem|st: broken in half?01:34
rzrchem|st, on n9 or n950 ?01:35
chem|stthe 0.0.3 from tmo works01:36
rzrping qwazix :-) or file a bug I will rebuilt it soon01:36
rzrthx for the info01:36
chem|stoh is he here again?01:36
chem|st~seen qwazix01:37
infobotqwazix <> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 1d 1h 8m 20s ago, saying: 'djszapi_, now you're one download closer to the 30K mark :)'.01:37
chem|strzr: do you know where the reboot reason is stored on n9?01:37
padoes anyone know where libqmsystem2 api reference are?01:37
rzrreason ?01:38
chem|stin maemo it stored a flag for why it rebooted somewhere01:39
rzrno sorry01:41
rzrchem|st, i am rebuilding one version to make sure01:43
pajaph, thanks again! :)01:43
pa(maybe i found what i needed)01:44
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chem|strzr: I had 0.0.20120720-0~rzr1, that is what it still is telling available for upgrade01:52
rzri am updating it now01:53
chem|stok, was just to let you know01:53
chem|stfor bootreason... in maemo it was /proc/bootreason01:56
chem|stor is...01:56
chem|st^^is what I am looking for02:01
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rzrchem|st, try rawcam_0.0.20120724-0~rzr1_armel.deb02:02
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rzrchem|st, tell me if its ok or not in
rzri am leaving now02:04
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chem|strZr: downloading... will report back in the thread02:05
rZri am not that far02:06
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rZrchem|st, ok it needs inception ?02:09
chem|sthow does that aegis-exec stuff work?02:11
chem|stthought that might be a workaround if it is a camdriver permission issue02:11
chem|stbut the other debs in tmo work...02:12
chem|stwould someone be so nice an put together a quick infopage with the qmsystem2 lib stuff?02:12
chem|stor is there something already?02:13
chem|stshould be something nokia already has built in devel progress02:13
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Estel_OK, after fighting with those hell's screws, I took hammer, small flat screw-driver, and re-fit them as torx402:39
Estel_after a little hammering, those #$%#% are now proper torx4 screws, lol02:40
Estel_nope, torx 6, actually02:42
Estel_4 would be even smaller02:43
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* merlin1991 is getting close to an almost full landscape n95003:02
Estel_nice to hear :)03:03
Estel_as tilting head to accomodate for portrait mode with keyboard out is driving me mad03:03
Estel_BTW, hellix antennas sitting next to grounded alu backplate? wtf?03:03
Estel_they could have put directional ones, aimed ! outside N900, why the hell helix?03:04
infobotEstel_ meant: they could have put directional ones, aimed @ outside N900, why the hell helix?03:04
Estel_oh damn, N950, not N900, habit.03:04
arceanmerlin1991: so what did you tweak? :D03:05
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merlin1991arcean: 1 file in duicontrolpanel03:09
merlin1991and 2 stylesheets03:09
arceanahh, yeah :)03:09
arceandid you try Vesuri patch for MTF?03:09
merlin1991I'm taking the other approach :D03:10
merlin1991atm building duicontrolpanel to incept an unlocked version03:10
merlin1991funny thing is, that duicontrolpanel decalares "NON-MEEGO" during the build xD03:10
ZogG_laptopdamn, that's the talks i was eactly hoping for after CA =)03:10
arceanthe other apporach won't fix some other things, like e.g. _always_ rotating windows to landscape when hwkb is open03:11
ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: because harmattan is not meego =P03:11
arceanmerlin1991: 2 stylesheets? :D03:11
merlin1991arcean: actually I prefer it that it autoswitches to landscape when I have the keyboard open03:11
Estel_hey, N950 also have test connectors for antennas!03:11
ZogG_laptoparcean: why do you want open kbd and stay in portrait?03:11
* Estel_ is looking at N950's motherboard03:12
merlin1991arcean:  /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/sysuid/style/sysuid.css and /usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch/meegotouchhome/style/meegotouchhome.css03:12
ZogG_laptopEstel_: just read fmc, it's all there03:12
befordand its broken03:12
arceanwut? I meant patched MTF forces landscape mode when hwkb is open03:12
merlin1991oh :D03:12
merlin1991then I missunderstood you :D03:12
Estel_fmc are full of erratas, unfortunately03:13
ZogG_laptopbeford: aaaaaand it's gone! (c) southpark03:13
Estel_see fmtx being unconnected to antennas :(03:13
arceanthat one commit changes a _lot_ :D03:13
merlin1991btw arcean I've went through the qml of sdk-connectivity-tool in order to get it to landscape aswell03:13
merlin1991in the end it was a 8 line patch xD03:14
befordRevBy: TrustMe03:14
arceanmerlin1991: we have to make a place with such things for n950 owners :D03:14
merlin1991yeah but my patches are on top of pr 1.2 :/03:15
merlin1991btw does anybody have the dvd for pr1.3 already?03:15
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arceanno, what are you looking for?03:16
merlin1991the sources in general :D03:16
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arceantyping on hwkb launches Searching app in landscape03:19
arceanold Maemo way :)03:19
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merlin1991arf I hate the harm mp03:21
arceanyeah, I have removed it03:22
merlin1991well I still have it03:22
arceanstill :D03:22
merlin1991and just foobared apt by installing a newer package below03:22
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merlin1991but I am fcking awesome :)03:23
merlin1991in other words it worked .)03:23
merlin1991now I have everything landscape except for the non landscape closed apps03:23
merlin1991but I'll have to make sure, that all applets are cosher03:24
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merlin1991hm nothing is more fun than editing /var/lib/dpkg/status03:30
merlin1991I should do a simple s/(=/(>=/ on the harm mp depends line xD03:31
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Estel_Well, I performer almsot full tear-down of N950, need to make high-res photos now...03:33
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Estel_The only thing I'm not sure about is if flex cable is disconnectable from MB, as I don't see obvious connector, and wouldn't like to tear it... ;)03:33
Estel_we have 4 hirose u.fl connectors, cellular, wifi, GPs, and...?03:34
merlin1991uh oh found the first on that is bad03:35
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merlin1991hm and I have to find out why I can't use all the help buttons anymore03:49
arceanmerlin1991: :P03:50
arceanmerlin1991: do you have user guide installed?03:50
arceanthat's why it's not working :D03:50
merlin1991do you know the package name?03:51
arceanhmm, sec03:51
arceanuserguide-content-guard userguide userguide-content03:52
arceanyou will have to use N9 repo IIRC03:52
merlin1991yep only userguide-content avaiable from the n950 repo03:53
merlin1991okay I have to work on two or three applets and see if I can adjust a few other programs03:55
merlin1991everything works in landscape but a few things are ugly03:55
arceanMusic and Video needs some CSS tuning03:55
arceanahh, you mean applets :P03:56
merlin1991control panel applets03:56
merlin1991every single line in the main view is already an applet03:57
arceanthere's something wrong with transitions in landscape, when entering a new applet03:57
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merlin1991music, video, usb / tv-out, certificates, mail, ringtones, textinput and twitter03:57
merlin1991not really03:57
merlin1991it does not go to the left but moves the old applet to the top of the screen and brings in the new on from the right03:58
merlin1991so it looks odd03:58
merlin1991I'll see how much of those I can fix without editing on device files :)03:59
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arceanok, I'm heading to bed, cya :)04:04
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merlin1991arf ofc the control panel applets on the n950 are slightly off in the version compared to the n9 pr1.2 sources04:05
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Estel_I've noticed 5 testpads next to USB port on N950's motherboard. could it be testpads for USB port? :)04:37
* Estel_ is investigating04:37
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aia832003hello, I am a new N9 owner and have a question04:55
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infobotQuestions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.05:01
merlin1991btw anybody ever requested the sources of the n950 pr1.2 beta release05:02
infobotmerlin1991 meant: btw anybody ever requested the sources of the n950 pr1.2 beta release?05:02
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Estel_anyone got experiences with screen protectors and N950? (unusual screen shape, curved a little). N9 screen protectors fit well?06:59
Estel_BTW, full disassembling - to single possible piece - and assembliong again finished successfuly07:00
Estel_if anyone - like me - though that connecting back N900's screen flat cable was a bitch to do, should try assembling N950's screen tilt mechanism07:00
Estel_took me at least 340 minutes, this sole element07:01
Estel_not to mention that needed to reverse-engineer where all those springs should be places, as they jumped out during disassemble07:01
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paok, actually not. backlighter is not working10:48
paor.. it doesnt do what i need10:48
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paitsnotabigtruck, hei, you there?10:59
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chem|stEstel_: we here already know that your "engineering" skills aren't what you think they are (n900 - 25minutes without domesheet, you get better if you draw wheat-beer over it^^), screens n9vsn950 are close to be the same but just close11:22
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abchem|st: n9 and n950 have very different screens technology-wise11:40
chem|stab: he was talking about the dimenstions of the glas surface11:43
ab3.9" vs 4.0"11:44
abOLED vs LCD11:44
chem|stab: we are not talking about the display panel...11:45
chem|stscreenprotector: will n9 protectors fit n950s11:46
ArkenoiEstel_, can you identify screen manufacturer and model number for n950?11:46
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Arkenoimerlin1991, do contacts work in landscape?11:48
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ZogG_laptopmerlin1991: there pr1.2 source12:10
Paliis there some hacks or other way for forced autorotation for n950 as on nokia n900?12:14
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ZogG_laptopPali: i know only about few apps for sure12:18
ZogG_laptopPali: there is thread on TMO about how to enable in autorotation12:18
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Palido you have link?12:21
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Arkenoihuh? twitter works in the landscape out of the box or did i miss something?12:36
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ZogG_laptopPali: sorry was timeouted. As well there are hacks for homescreen, lockscreen and others. few of those scripts in n9tweaks12:47
ZogG_laptopjonni: sup12:47
PaliI found something on
Pali"This script work properly only on PR 1.3 and base/blanco theme !!!"12:49
PaliI have N950 with PR1.212:50
ZogG_laptopthat app is actually all the hacks and scripts all together. it works only with pr1.3 now i think, but prev versions work with 1.2 as well as you can just check the source12:50
ZogG_laptopPali: prev versions were only for 1.2 =)12:50
ZogG_laptopand prev prev were only for 1.1 =)12:50
ZogG_laptopbut better to ask schturman himself12:51
ZogG_laptopPali: there is new toggle for orientation MohammadAG made for his unrestricted system-ui12:53
ZogG_laptopPali: just add his incepted repo, i think it would work with n950 too, but better check thread12:53
ZogG_laptopfor both =)12:54
jonniZogG_laptop: just idling :)12:55
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ZogG_lap1opPali: sorry timeouting12:56
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ZogG_lap1oparcean: saw screenshots of led ocnfigs - nice13:09
ZogG_lap1oparcean: i'll wait till you merge with MohammadAG's version =P13:10
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Lava_Croft\o/ nexus7 arrived15:03
Lava_Croftit runs minecraft great and since thats the only reason to own a nexus7, its hooray15:04
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chem|stPali: do you know where to get bootreason from on n9/50?15:04
Palichm|st, I did play with it, but last year I was that dsme getboostate open source code getting bootreason from /proc/cmdline15:05
Palichem|st, but I do not know if this code was used on n9/50...15:06
Paliif it is really in /proc/cmdline, then bootreason append NOLO to kernel command line15:06
chem|stqmsystem is api lib to it15:07
chem|stDocScrutinizer51 said he will have a look for me but also said that you might know15:07
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chem|stPali: yeah it is in /proc/cmdline15:09
chem|stdamn I needed to reboot cause ui hung...15:10
chem|stneed to wait for next random reboot... but I guess it was profilematic or organiser feed15:10
chem|stoh could be fotoshare too...15:11
chem|stone of the three15:11
chem|stor the combination of all three15:11
chem|steither way a devel tool making use of qmsystem with logging capability would make it much easier to point out any issues regarding starting/stoping/reloading services or programs15:13
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khertanHello !15:37
khertanstill no hope in a 1.3 for n950 ? or at least an update of the qt components ?15:38
clauI still didn't get it on my n9 :|15:42
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ZogG_laptoprzr: chem|st the problem in rawcam is aegis16:23
ZogG_laptopchem|st: till i get home to check it, can you test something?16:23
ZogG_laptopchem|st: do you have inception?16:23
jonniZogG_laptop: what kind of problem?16:24
chem|stZogG_laptop: nope16:24
chem|stZogG_laptop: the binaries from tmo work...16:24
ZogG_laptopjonni: it works for them as dev when deploying from qtcreator but not as user16:25
ZogG_laptopit's obvs aegis i think16:25
jonnimost likely just missing come capas in aegis.manifest16:25
ZogG_laptopi'm currently in bus and laptop battery is going low, so i don't want to check it right now16:26
ZogG_laptopjonni: yeah i think so too, i wanted to clone his repo and try to build it myself16:26
jonnias qtcreator uses develsh which has ovi credentials as default, and user in other hand has no capas, unless you have ovi signature in it.16:26
ZogG_laptopjonni: btw ovi signature, what rights does it give?16:27
ZogG_laptopjonni: i wanted to ask you about kernel few questions16:27
jonniZogG_laptop: ovi signature gives same capas as develsh16:27
ZogG_laptopjonni: how hard it would be to take out all Nokia changes and appl them to newer kernel16:28
ZogG_laptopi want to update kernel16:28
jonniwhich is also same capas as apps4meego signature.16:28
ZogG_laptopjonni: btw it would be usefull to add maybe OTGO16:28
jonniso rawcam will work with proprt aegis manigest + apps4meego signature / ovistore signature / inception / AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN kludge.16:29
ZogG_laptopjonni: and bump someone at nokia to release pr1.3 for n950 =P16:29
infobotjonni meant: so rawcam will work with proper aegis manigest + apps4meego signature / ovistore signature / inception / AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN kludge.16:29
ZogG_laptopjonni: yeah that i know, its not my app. i just wanted to help, but had no time16:30
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ZogG_laptopjonni: what about kernel? would it be too hard to do it>16:30
merlin1991ZogG_laptop: I've asked about n950 1.2 sources because they are not exactly 1.2 sources16:31
merlin1991ie the contolpanel applets on the n950 have a version of 0.2 lower than the 1.2 public release16:31
jonniZogG_laptop: well in theory you can diff against vanilla, and make patchset, and apply that set against new kernel, (and merge conflicts by hand). so its doable, but I dont see many people in community playing with kernel.16:31
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ZogG_lap1opjonni: what about kernel? would it be too hard to do it?16:32
jonniZogG_laptop: I was talking about kernel.16:32
ZogG_lap1optimeouted and missed it16:32
ZogG_lap1oplemme refresh log16:32
jonniZogG_laptop: well in theory you can diff against vanilla, and make patchset, and apply that set against new kernel, (and merge conflicts by hand). so its doable, but I dont see many people in community playing with kernel.16:32
ZogG_lap1opjonni: i want to do it, but only if it's reasonable (time) and if it can be helpful16:33
ZogG_lap1opjonni: but it would be only aegis free one right? i mean open-mode16:34
jonniZogG_laptop: well yes open-mode only if you want to use it in harmattan. You can in theory do custom kernel in sillyboot for nitroid, but there is even less users in there.16:35
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ZogG_lap1opjonni: i hope for CSSU, and other distros16:36
ZogG_lap1opjonni: currently i have funtoo as second boot on n950, but still works not properly. need to tweak more to get it on somehow stable state16:37
ZogG_lap1opjonni: but it can be useful i think16:37
ZogG_lap1opi don't think we gonna get 1.4 anyway16:37
ZogG_lap1opitsnotabigtruck: is pr1.4 out already? =)16:38
MohammadAGoh wow
ZogG_lap1opMohammadAG: affaik in london they force them to state on site that galaxy didn't copy threm16:38
MohammadAGit's an EU wide ban16:39
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ZogG_lap1opit's idiotic16:40
ZogG_lap1opMohammadAG: btw left jerusalem16:40
ZogG_lap1opnot on the way to karmiel16:41
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MohammadAGhow does one create a file with C code?16:42
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ZogG_lap1opMohammadAG: escorting my mom to grandma house16:42
ZogG_lap1opMohammadAG: fopen ?16:42
MohammadAGoh :)16:42
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MohammadAGI'm trying to touch a file in a segfault16:42
ZogG_lap1opfopen(file,"r") or something like that16:43
MohammadAGwell, in a sigaction called when a segfault occurs16:43
MohammadAGI'm not sure if using QFile is safe16:43
ZogG_lap1opMohammadAG: if you would be able to close it in time =016:43
ZogG_lap1opmerlin1991: the pr1.2 on n950 is beta so it's different from n916:44
ZogG_lap1opmerlin1991: on n9 it's release16:44
ZogG_lap1opMohammadAG: Pelephones internet sucks16:44
MohammadAGZogG_lap1op, tell me about it16:45
ZogG_lap1opMohammadAG: i had second phone at pelephone as soldier, they stold money from me16:45
ZogG_lap1ophate them from than16:45
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ZogG_laptopjust reconnected and has lag16:48
ZogG_laptopdamn it16:48
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ZogG_laptopanyone in EU here?16:51
ZogG_laptopi' mgonna ask nokia for pr1.3 sources, but it's better if someone from EU ask as well, you'll get faster16:52
MohammadAGZogG_laptop, I just hate pelephone in general16:52
ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i hate all Israel companies for service and how they freely F you in any possible situation16:53
ZogG_laptopok i'll try t save battery and to sleep on bus16:55
ZogG_laptopanyway it reconnects everytime16:55
ZogG_laptopand i have not much battery16:55
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khertanwho should i contact for a package that is build on the cobs but not appear on the repository ?17:17
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rcgkhertan: you have publishing enabled?17:30
rcgjust to check17:30
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khertanrcg: hum ... it should17:38
khertanwill check :)17:38
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khertanrcg: yep :)17:41
khertanpublish is enabled17:41
rcgkhertan: i see, is it KhtNotes?17:44
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arceanmerlin1991: you're looking for this?
khertanrcg: yep17:51
khertanrcg: sorry for the delay boss was in the room17:52
rcgwell, sorry.. gotta go17:52
rcgmight try to ping X-Fade or lbt iirc17:53
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rcgi had some issues with publishing of results due to some aegis stuff17:53
rcgbut thats about a year ago17:53
khertanrcg: no problem you're welcome17:54
khertanX-Fade, lbt: ping17:54
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Estel_<chem|st> [10:22] Estel_: we here already know that your "engineering" skills aren't what you think they are (n900 - 25minutes without domesheet, you get better if you draw wheat-beer over it^^), screens n9vsn950 are close to be the same but just close18:08
Estel_can't parse what You mean by 25 minutes, sorry, could You rephrase in english?18:08
Estel_as for screen, oI know googleable details, but thanks anyway ;) I'm asking about practice18:09
chem|stEstel_: the screens of n9 and n950 are not the same18:09
chem|stin terms of screen protectors18:09
Estel_as for rest, I really don't get what you mean, expect for part where you're trying to troll me ;)18:09
chem|stbut it might fit anyway18:09
Estel_yes. So?18:09
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chem|stEstel_: you asked18:09
Estel_one is amoled with glass coated in conductive, transparent thingy18:09
Estel_that's why I'm asking n950 owners about *practical* experiences18:10
chem|stnot you too....18:10
Estel_but what You mean in 25 minutes without domesheet part?18:10
Estel_yes, no need to write in caps. I'm asking about *practical* experiences with screen protectors on N95018:11
chem|stI disassamble and reassamble n900 in 25minutes without replacing domesheet18:11
Estel_nice, so what?18:11
chem|stEstel_: you do not need a screenprotector18:11
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Estel_sure, i do not need phone too, but what's the point? N950 screen isn't scratch-resistant18:12
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Estel_digitizer, in fact18:12
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chem|stif you are thinking of daily usage you might need depending on your way of careing18:12
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khertanEstel_: don't put it with you car key in the pocket and you ll not have any problem18:12
Estel_I *want* it, not *need*, because I want to preserve N950 unreplaceable digitizer in ideal condition18:13
khertanmine is one year old.18:13
khertanno scratch on screen18:13
MohammadAGwill sell kidney for popcorn, I really need it right now18:13
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MohammadAGkhertan, accidents happen :P18:13
khertanjust two corner of the plastic case that are a bit .... melted ... a nice 8 meters drop18:14
khertanMohammadAG: yep :)18:14
Estel_khertan, on n900, I have separate pocket for it, yet, i know how my screen protector looks after month ;)18:14
Estel_the problem is, that for N950 You can't buy giditizer replacement, any normal way18:14
Estel_so preserving it in ideal condition is top priority now18:14
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chem|stZogG: EU?18:15
khertani think you should better buy a complete case that just screen protector18:15
Estel_Arkenoi, found lotta hell of numbers on screen, but none googleablke18:15
Estel_if You can give some pointers, I may try to identify manuf.18:15
Estel_khertan, complete case I'm doing on my own ;)18:16
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khertanmy n950 jump of my head a morning when i try to open the keyboard18:16
Estel_well, i've already did some initial sketches of custom body replacement for N950 too18:16
chem|stEstel_: n900 screen protectors look like shit after minutes, I ripped one of the minute after I attached it...18:16
Estel_would like to make bigger cover for 7Ah battery, one day18:16
Estel_(although, custom body replacement for N900 is priority now)18:16
Estel_chem|st, depends on type, I got few favorite manufacturers of screen protectors (cheap ones)18:17
khertani was on a bridge and fly 8 meters and then bounce on asphalt18:17
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Estel_well, once I "meet* screen protector, that destroyed digitizer surface after ripping it off (it looked like shit after applying), so I don't experiment with new ones18:17
Estel_khertan, sure, but it was pure look, other people managed to break screen from half a meter18:18
Estel_in all normal conditions, from 8 meters, You should be RIP18:18
Estel_as rest in pieces18:18
Estel_not You18:18
khertanyep .. was lucky18:18
Estel_again, I was amazed by ammount of free space inside N950 body (covered by alu just as filler), it got nice potential for meeega battery power, if presented with custom body18:19
Estel_with two 18650, You can still have less thickness than N900 with Mugen cover (and the latter is OK thickness for me, very comfortabe for writing on HW keyboard)18:20
Estel_but, first things first, N950 must wait before I finalize CNC refinning and N900 backcovers and bodies18:20
Estel_chem|st, out of curiosity, why disassembling and assembling N900 take as much as 25 minutes for You? 6 screws + another same for screen, + flat cable, basically?18:21
Estel_sure, flat cable is a #@$# to connect, but after some practice, You should be able to put it on 1st/2nd try max18:22
saidinesh5hi guys.. i m having a problem launchiing a PySide app in scratchbox environment18:22
virtualdMaybe it's heatsink for GPS... Don't know if aluminium is suitable, just guessing18:22
saidinesh5this is the error log: it ends with :ASSERT: "idx >= 0 && idx < d->type->d->names.count()" in file util/qdeclarativeopenmetaobject.cpp, line 37018:23
saidinesh5any ideas?18:23
Estel_virtuald, alu is suitable, but it's hardly heatsink by design in N95018:23
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MohammadAG :)18:26
MohammadAGthat should solve broken plugins causing bootloops18:26
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RST38hMohammad: called Microsoft Word18:38
RST38hMohammad: but believe me you do not want to do it. Just write HTML by hand, it is real easy18:39
RST38hMohammad: Can be explained in 2-3 IRC messages even :)18:40
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MohammadAGthis'll have to do
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RST38hMohammadAG: Argh! Word-generated HTML!19:13
* RST38h threatens MohammadAG with a pitchfork19:14
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arceandoes it look like on the ancient harmattan version?19:38
ZogG_laptoparcean: nope19:39
ZogG_laptoparcean: i don't have old version anymore btw19:39
ZogG_laptoparcean: i think icons were different and it wasn't that short19:40
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ZogG_laptoparcean: check the video19:40
arceanbackup of the themes would be great :)19:40
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arceanyeah, I know, it's scratchbox19:40
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arceanit's short because I don't have any plugin here19:42
ZogG_laptopchem|st: ping19:44
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ZogG_laptoprzr: ping19:49
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faenilhow can I add harmattan target  to qtcreator 2.5.0?19:52
faenilok I think I'm doing it myself ;)19:55
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rzrZogG, pong20:11
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MohammadAGThis coderus guy is fucking annoying20:44
pathe one of the radio?20:45
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MohammadAGno, the one that conflicted a package based on a personal argument20:45
MohammadAGI really don't care, but if this causes me issues with users bitching about my packages, I'm leaving Harmattan20:46
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DocScrutinizer51yeah, come back to fremantle! ;-P20:51
MohammadAGsorry, but if that happens I'm going to iOS20:53
MohammadAGselling N9 and the Lumia 800 to get a 4S and a 5 when that's out20:53
rzrwe have to do something :)20:54
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rzrMohammadAG, have you found a common denominator between ios and linux mobile ? I recently built gnustep but donno if it worth a try20:59
MohammadAGrzr, I just find iOS very close to the N90021:01
MohammadAGnot in terms of openness, but in terms of hackiness21:01
MohammadAGsure it requires LD_PRELOAD-like hacks, but better than android21:01
MohammadAGrzr, what's gnustep?21:01
rzrthe root of mox21:02
rzrnextstep framework21:02
rzrbefore cocoa21:02
rzrAPI like fundations etc are same21:02
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heymaster-laptoprzr: you will try port opensource iPhone apps ?21:08
rzrme ?21:09
rzrthis is a challenge for MohammadAG21:09
heymaster-laptopahh, ok21:09
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heymaster-laptoprzr: maybe cocoa would be easier to port21:10
heymaster-laptopi say cocoa apps21:11
rzrworth a try yes21:12
Estel_ok, little question - how to change camera focus in goddamn camera pp of N950?21:13
Estel_not pr 1.2 yet, mind You21:13
Estel_this crap allow me to select macro, but doesn't allow me to focus on it, actually, keepin ~5m focus21:13
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heymaster-laptoprzr: looks like old packages, objc very fast evolving21:15
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paanyone familiar with gps data?21:20
pawhat exactly is "gps filtering"?21:20
chem|stZogG: pong21:21
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pajust averaging multiple samples?21:23
chem|stpa: accuracy21:23
chem|stdepends on the used algorythm21:23
palet say the best one, what is it about?21:23
chem|stthe best one? you mean the "best" filter? that is where you still have a good track but no filesize at all!21:24
pathe best algorithm to filter gps data21:25
pato compute the most accurate track21:26
chem|stfiltering takes place for view or saving tracks21:26
paor computing info21:26
pasuch as speed21:26
paor distance21:26
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paand for that you want to have the most accurate path data possible, right?21:26
paotherwise you might be too fast or too slow, and distance might be off21:26
chem|stspeed is averaging already21:27
chem|stwell you could count in on each point but that would make you faster than light sometimes21:27
pawel.. speed is integrating more than averaging21:27
chem|stthat depends again, shown speed might be the average of 2-5 integrations21:28
chem|stand as gps is off a few meters anyhow...21:28
chem|stfor pure view I would not filter at all21:28
palet see if i can find some algo on google21:29
chem|stonly for recording tracks21:29
paah right, kalman21:29
panever implemented it, tho21:29
paquestion: are there opencl drivers for harmattan?21:31
pasgx530 supports it21:31
MohammadAGI've gone closed source21:33
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MohammadAGif anyone needs help with something, I'll be glad to help with some lines of code21:33
MohammadAGrzr, there's project magnetta21:34
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rzrMohammadAG, that one is an other way21:41
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pahow is is to plot a graph in qml?21:50
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MohammadAGI don't get why kill -11 isn't triggering a SIGSEGV signal handler21:58
MohammadAGhmm, wait21:58
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* rzr watched this qt vid
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ZogG_laptopjonni: about aegis, it does depend where app is iirc, right?22:10
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chem|stZogG_laptop: pong22:34
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i just wanted to try something with rawcam22:36
ZogG_laptopbut i think it's less relevant now22:36
ZogG_laptopi need qwazix22:36
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MohammadAGarcean, ping22:42
arceanMohammadAG: hi22:42
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ZogG_lap1opnow sort out led thing =P22:43
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ZogG_laptopghjgfjghjbn: nice nickname23:11
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chem|sthow do I restart/reload mce?23:36
chem|st(so many things changed)23:36
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MohammadAGchem|st, same23:52
MohammadAGerr, same way*23:52
MohammadAG/sbin isn't in path though, so either add it or use /sbin/stop etc23:53
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