heymaster-laptop | http://www.osnews.com/story/26201/Nokia_posts_another_disastrous_quarter | 00:00 |
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pa | a one-liner to make the whole application theme look black? | 00:20 |
pa | im not getthing where to set theme.inverted to true | 00:21 |
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pa | ah ok, i cant set it so from the start | 00:23 |
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arcean | pa: https://gitorious.org/camdrive/camdrive_qml/blobs/master/qml/camdrive_qml/main.qml#line44 | 00:24 |
pa | ah thats how :) | 00:26 |
pa | thanks! | 00:26 |
pa | another thing: any good way to make the toolbar disappear and reappear on demand? | 00:27 |
pa | to have the app in a sort of "full screen" mod? | 00:27 |
rzr | arcean, is it your app ? | 00:28 |
pa | for example, you have showtoolbar false, but how to get it back? | 00:28 |
pa | like on a double tap or something | 00:28 |
arcean | rzr: yes | 00:28 |
arcean | appWindow.showToolBar = true ? | 00:28 |
rzr | ask me to rebuild it anytime :) | 00:28 |
arcean | ok :) | 00:29 |
pa | arcean, yep, but on a button? or how would you advice? | 00:30 |
arcean | Button has onClicked event | 00:32 |
arcean | connect showToolbarFunc with it | 00:32 |
Estel_ | epic question | 00:36 |
Estel_ | how one turns out N950?:P Is long-press of power button correct way? | 00:36 |
japh | yes | 00:36 |
japh | it's not so epic | 00:36 |
japh | I also had to ask | 00:36 |
Estel_ | thanks a lot, I just though that i might have been doing it wrong | 00:36 |
Estel_ | it's nice to know that I wasn't only one, it isn't entirely intuitive | 00:37 |
japh | when I got it it was turned on heh | 00:37 |
Estel_ | mine was off with dead battery | 00:37 |
Estel_ | had to charge it before first try | 00:37 |
Estel_ | why, ah why, they've included those 4 torx's, when we have removable battery? | 00:37 |
Estel_ | do we, yep? | 00:38 |
Estel_ | it isn't soldered internally? | 00:38 |
arcean | no, it's not | 00:39 |
arcean | and I recommend BV-4D battery from 808 PureView | 00:39 |
Estel_ | thanks | 00:39 |
japh | maybe there's a difference with the two versions of n950 circulating? | 00:39 |
arcean | heh, maybe | 00:40 |
arcean | some #N950 have weak cellular signal | 00:40 |
Estel_ | why so? | 00:40 |
Estel_ | like mine | 00:40 |
Estel_ | unless I hold it upside down | 00:40 |
Estel_ | most of the time | 00:40 |
arcean | wow | 00:40 |
Estel_ | but I suspect it's about alu body and poor design of antenna's placement | 00:40 |
arcean | mine is ok, I'm using it with T-Mobile PL | 00:41 |
Estel_ | sometimes, it acts like reflector boosting signal, and sometimes, reflect it before it reaches antenna, depending on waves source, angle, etc | 00:41 |
japh | hmm idk playing vim works | 00:41 |
arcean | and it has even better signal than N9 | 00:41 |
Estel_ | I'm also using T-Mobile PL, overall it's ok, but in one room of my house | 00:41 |
Estel_ | I must keep it at certain angle, and have 70 % of signal | 00:41 |
Estel_ | otherwise, it's 0-10% | 00:41 |
arcean | :O | 00:41 |
pa | arcean, do you read out also gps in your app? | 00:41 |
Estel_ | also, wifi reception is much worse than in N900 | 00:41 |
arcean | pa: sure | 00:41 |
arcean | Estel_: N900 > N950 >> N9 | 00:42 |
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pa | i'll check it out in your code how to do it, then :) | 00:42 |
Estel_ | yea | 00:42 |
arcean | pa: np, it's GPL :) | 00:42 |
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pa | now i have to design the main screen | 00:50 |
pa | maybe i can look at edomondo | 00:50 |
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ZogG_laptop | arcean: sup | 00:53 |
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ZogG_laptop | arcean: camdrive is yours? | 00:53 |
arcean | ZogG_laptop: hi | 00:53 |
arcean | yes:) | 00:53 |
arcean | ZogG_laptop: btw I made those led notifications configurable through Settings applet | 00:54 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: are you russian or there is analog from other dev who is russian | 00:54 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: good, push it to MohammadAG's repo | 00:54 |
arcean | no, I'm from Poland :) | 00:54 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: ok, i just think i saw some video registor from russian dev i think | 00:56 |
arcean | hmm, maybe from vladest | 00:56 |
ZogG_laptop | not sure | 00:56 |
ZogG_laptop | i know only his meecast and few maemo apps | 00:56 |
ZogG_laptop | him, one girl and wazd | 00:57 |
arcean | all in all, camdrive has more functions (also important ones) :P | 00:58 |
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ZogG_laptop | arcean: no license yet | 00:59 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: i mean i have no drive license | 00:59 |
ZogG_laptop | =P | 00:59 |
japh | camdrive is cool :-) | 00:59 |
arcean | :P | 00:59 |
ZogG_laptop | japh: i'm cool :P | 00:59 |
arcean | japh: thanks :) | 00:59 |
japh | not as cool as arcean | 00:59 |
ZogG_laptop | japh: true :\ | 01:00 |
ZogG_laptop | japh: but it's not nice to point it out | 01:00 |
arcean | lol | 01:00 |
japh | oh | 01:00 |
japh | is that why I can't make any friends | 01:00 |
arcean | ZogG_laptop: how's your N950? :) | 01:00 |
ZogG_laptop | japh: meh, you need to be more cruel to make friends | 01:00 |
japh | fuck you | 01:00 |
pa | arcean, by chance are you disabling somehow the lock screen? | 01:01 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: i have half working funtoo as second boot :P | 01:01 |
arcean | ZogG_laptop: lol :D | 01:01 |
ZogG_laptop | japh: exactly | 01:01 |
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arcean | pa: yes, sec | 01:01 |
pa | i do too | 01:01 |
pa | i was wondering | 01:01 |
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pa | are you by chance disabling the light sensor too? | 01:01 |
arcean | light sensor? no :) | 01:02 |
pa | ok :) | 01:02 |
pa | i mean the auto brightness | 01:02 |
arcean | why would you do that? | 01:02 |
arcean | ahh, no | 01:02 |
pa | coz i want to put the brightness to minimum | 01:02 |
pa | and i want it to stay so | 01:02 |
arcean | there's a modification/tutorial floating somewhere on TMO | 01:02 |
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pa | yes, something about mce.ini | 01:03 |
arcean | yeah | 01:03 |
pa | but i cant expect the user to fiddle with that.. | 01:03 |
pa | :( | 01:03 |
japh | hey we're not your regular users | 01:03 |
japh | I hope | 01:03 |
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pa | well even if i would do that as user, i would like the auto brightness back, outside this app | 01:04 |
pa | so you see | 01:04 |
pa | very uncomf | 01:04 |
japh | steal code from BackLighter | 01:04 |
pa | hm= | 01:05 |
pa | good idea | 01:05 |
pa | man, it might work! | 01:06 |
pa | thanks | 01:06 |
pa | let see if it is opensource | 01:06 |
beford | *borrow* | 01:07 |
pa | i think its not open source.. | 01:08 |
japh | hms | 01:08 |
japh | iirc I found it in the repo | 01:08 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: howdy? | 01:08 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: did you got funtoo on mac? | 01:09 |
pa | japh, repo? | 01:09 |
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beford | hey ZogG_laptop, not yet, I've been busy working | 01:09 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: because i have it half working on n950, soooo. i won? | 01:09 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: work is over rated | 01:09 |
beford | no way, you still have problems with the video :P | 01:09 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: nope, i got display working | 01:09 |
beford | :< | 01:10 |
japh | pa, http://my-meego.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=725&faq=1 it claims to be | 01:10 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: it's hacky, but it works. though i need to make changes to kernel parts to make it better. not sure exactly how and what but had help from few people. also e-eyes helped a lot | 01:11 |
pa | japh, claims to be opensource? the app as such is also on the store | 01:11 |
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pa | i just cant find the sources | 01:12 |
pa | but it does exactly what i need... | 01:12 |
japh | 'free' | 01:12 |
pa | yes thats free :) | 01:12 |
japh | http://store.ovi.com/content/224077?clickSource=publisher+channel&channel=&pos=4 there's two buttons here. But there's no text... | 01:12 |
ZogG_laptop | Elleo: i was sitting in bar and there was that song from Lock, Stock and 2 Smoking barrels. So i checked your app and it RECOGNIZED it, when i was sitting outside with all noise. and it has recognized really quickly | 01:12 |
ZogG_laptop | pa send email to author | 01:13 |
pa | yes i was going to | 01:13 |
pa | :) | 01:13 |
japh | maybe it's not that hard to reverse engineer anyway | 01:13 |
ZogG_laptop | japh: yes, whole harmattan | 01:14 |
Elleo | ZogG_laptop: awesome :) | 01:14 |
japh | zogg_laptop, doubt he did that | 01:15 |
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ZogG_laptop | macmaN: hmm, i see you on #gentoo-embedded as well. it's funny how many familiur nicks from here i see on other chans | 01:16 |
pa | japh, how would you reverse? | 01:17 |
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chem|st | where do I lookup reboot reason? | 01:18 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: what do you mean | 01:19 |
chem|st | the reason why it rebooted, on n900 it was stored somewhere | 01:19 |
ZogG_laptop | oh, no idea | 01:19 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: loops? | 01:19 |
ZogG_laptop | oh random? | 01:20 |
ZogG_laptop | or* | 01:20 |
chem|st | no loops, random reboot | 01:21 |
ZogG_laptop | and nothing in syslog? | 01:21 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: try to check what you have in /var/log/ | 01:21 |
pa | japh, there is some plain text qml in the binary, but not the part that we need :) | 01:26 |
japh | are you sure? maybe it's the authors physical adress, might help | 01:27 |
pa | i wrote to the author, yes. but now i was just checking the binary | 01:28 |
japh | yes I got that, I shouldn't try to be funny this late | 01:29 |
pa | but is it possible to embed qml into the binary? | 01:29 |
pa | i thought it wasnt | 01:29 |
beford | yes it is | 01:29 |
beford | as a resource | 01:29 |
pa | ah | 01:29 |
pa | need to learn about it | 01:29 |
rzr | hey anyone here wanna test encfs ? | 01:30 |
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ZogG_laptop | encfs? | 01:31 |
rzr | yes | 01:32 |
pa | it seems the author might be swedish? where else is sonera operating? finland? | 01:32 |
rzr | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EncFS | 01:32 |
chem|st | rzr: rawcam in OBS is broken | 01:32 |
ZogG_laptop | rzr: pass for now | 01:32 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: permissions? | 01:33 |
Aard | rzr: playing with encryption on the n9? | 01:33 |
chem|st | permi-what? | 01:33 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: broken in half? | 01:34 |
rzr | chem|st, on n9 or n950 ? | 01:35 |
chem|st | n9 | 01:35 |
chem|st | segfaulted | 01:35 |
chem|st | the 0.0.3 from tmo works | 01:36 |
rzr | ping qwazix :-) or file a bug I will rebuilt it soon | 01:36 |
rzr | thx for the info | 01:36 |
chem|st | oh is he here again? | 01:36 |
chem|st | no... | 01:37 |
chem|st | ~seen qwazix | 01:37 |
infobot | qwazix <~qwazix@athedsl-235542.home.otenet.gr> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 1d 1h 8m 20s ago, saying: 'djszapi_, now you're one download closer to the 30K mark :)'. | 01:37 |
chem|st | rzr: do you know where the reboot reason is stored on n9? | 01:37 |
pa | does anyone know where libqmsystem2 api reference are? | 01:37 |
rzr | reason ? | 01:38 |
chem|st | in maemo it stored a flag for why it rebooted somewhere | 01:39 |
rzr | no sorry | 01:41 |
rzr | chem|st, i am rebuilding one version to make sure | 01:43 |
pa | japh, thanks again! :) | 01:43 |
pa | (maybe i found what i needed) | 01:44 |
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chem|st | rzr: I had 0.0.20120720-0~rzr1, that is what it still is telling available for upgrade | 01:52 |
rzr | i am updating it now | 01:53 |
chem|st | ok, was just to let you know | 01:53 |
chem|st | for bootreason... in maemo it was /proc/bootreason | 01:56 |
chem|st | or is... | 01:56 |
chem|st | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qmsystem2/classMeeGo_1_1QmSystemState.html#aa2c4898649f849c987d262a87b30df7e | 02:00 |
chem|st | ^^is what I am looking for | 02:01 |
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rzr | chem|st, try rawcam_0.0.20120724-0~rzr1_armel.deb | 02:02 |
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rzr | chem|st, tell me if its ok or not in http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1241924#post1241924 | 02:04 |
rzr | i am leaving now | 02:04 |
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chem|st | rZr: downloading... will report back in the thread | 02:05 |
rZr | ok | 02:06 |
rZr | i am not that far | 02:06 |
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rZr | chem|st, ok it needs inception ? | 02:09 |
chem|st | ? | 02:10 |
chem|st | how does that aegis-exec stuff work? | 02:11 |
chem|st | thought that might be a workaround if it is a camdriver permission issue | 02:11 |
chem|st | but the other debs in tmo work... | 02:12 |
chem|st | would someone be so nice an put together a quick infopage with the qmsystem2 lib stuff? | 02:12 |
chem|st | or is there something already? | 02:13 |
chem|st | should be something nokia already has built in devel progress | 02:13 |
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Estel_ | OK, after fighting with those hell's screws, I took hammer, small flat screw-driver, and re-fit them as torx4 | 02:39 |
Estel_ | after a little hammering, those #$%#% are now proper torx4 screws, lol | 02:40 |
Estel_ | nope, torx 6, actually | 02:42 |
Estel_ | 4 would be even smaller | 02:43 |
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* merlin1991 is getting close to an almost full landscape n950 | 03:02 | |
Estel_ | nice to hear :) | 03:03 |
Estel_ | as tilting head to accomodate for portrait mode with keyboard out is driving me mad | 03:03 |
Estel_ | BTW, hellix antennas sitting next to grounded alu backplate? wtf? | 03:03 |
Estel_ | they could have put directional ones, aimed ! outside N900, why the hell helix? | 03:04 |
Estel_ | s/!/@/ | 03:04 |
infobot | Estel_ meant: they could have put directional ones, aimed @ outside N900, why the hell helix? | 03:04 |
Estel_ | oh damn, N950, not N900, habit. | 03:04 |
arcean | merlin1991: so what did you tweak? :D | 03:05 |
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ZogG_laptop | ~ping | 03:08 |
infobot | ~pong | 03:08 |
ZogG_laptop | hmm | 03:08 |
merlin1991 | arcean: 1 file in duicontrolpanel | 03:09 |
merlin1991 | :D | 03:09 |
merlin1991 | and 2 stylesheets | 03:09 |
arcean | ahh, yeah :) | 03:09 |
arcean | did you try Vesuri patch for MTF? | 03:09 |
merlin1991 | I'm taking the other approach :D | 03:10 |
merlin1991 | atm building duicontrolpanel to incept an unlocked version | 03:10 |
merlin1991 | funny thing is, that duicontrolpanel decalares "NON-MEEGO" during the build xD | 03:10 |
ZogG_laptop | damn, that's the talks i was eactly hoping for after CA =) | 03:10 |
arcean | the other apporach won't fix some other things, like e.g. _always_ rotating windows to landscape when hwkb is open | 03:11 |
ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: because harmattan is not meego =P | 03:11 |
arcean | merlin1991: 2 stylesheets? :D | 03:11 |
merlin1991 | arcean: actually I prefer it that it autoswitches to landscape when I have the keyboard open | 03:11 |
Estel_ | hey, N950 also have test connectors for antennas! | 03:11 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: why do you want open kbd and stay in portrait? | 03:11 |
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merlin1991 | arcean: /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/sysuid/style/sysuid.css and /usr/share/themes/base/meegotouch/meegotouchhome/style/meegotouchhome.css | 03:12 |
ZogG_laptop | Estel_: just read fmc, it's all there | 03:12 |
beford | and its broken | 03:12 |
arcean | wut? I meant patched MTF forces landscape mode when hwkb is open | 03:12 |
merlin1991 | oh :D | 03:12 |
merlin1991 | then I missunderstood you :D | 03:12 |
arcean | https://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/commit/931b3c0b4ba0a5db6c3bd5a736b193aa7ec527ab | 03:13 |
Estel_ | fmc are full of erratas, unfortunately | 03:13 |
ZogG_laptop | beford: aaaaaand it's gone! (c) southpark | 03:13 |
Estel_ | see fmtx being unconnected to antennas :( | 03:13 |
arcean | that one commit changes a _lot_ :D | 03:13 |
merlin1991 | btw arcean I've went through the qml of sdk-connectivity-tool in order to get it to landscape aswell | 03:13 |
merlin1991 | in the end it was a 8 line patch xD | 03:14 |
beford | RevBy: TrustMe | 03:14 |
arcean | :D | 03:14 |
arcean | merlin1991: we have to make a place with such things for n950 owners :D | 03:14 |
merlin1991 | yeah but my patches are on top of pr 1.2 :/ | 03:15 |
merlin1991 | btw does anybody have the dvd for pr1.3 already? | 03:15 |
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arcean | no, what are you looking for? | 03:16 |
merlin1991 | the sources in general :D | 03:16 |
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arcean | heh | 03:18 |
arcean | typing on hwkb launches Searching app in landscape | 03:19 |
arcean | old Maemo way :) | 03:19 |
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merlin1991 | arf I hate the harm mp | 03:21 |
arcean | yeah, I have removed it | 03:22 |
merlin1991 | well I still have it | 03:22 |
arcean | still :D | 03:22 |
merlin1991 | and just foobared apt by installing a newer package below | 03:22 |
beford | mp? | 03:22 |
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arcean | metapackage | 03:23 |
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merlin1991 | but I am fcking awesome :) | 03:23 |
merlin1991 | in other words it worked .) | 03:23 |
merlin1991 | now I have everything landscape except for the non landscape closed apps | 03:23 |
merlin1991 | but I'll have to make sure, that all applets are cosher | 03:24 |
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merlin1991 | hm nothing is more fun than editing /var/lib/dpkg/status | 03:30 |
merlin1991 | :D | 03:30 |
merlin1991 | I should do a simple s/(=/(>=/ on the harm mp depends line xD | 03:31 |
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Estel_ | Well, I performer almsot full tear-down of N950, need to make high-res photos now... | 03:33 |
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Estel_ | The only thing I'm not sure about is if flex cable is disconnectable from MB, as I don't see obvious connector, and wouldn't like to tear it... ;) | 03:33 |
Estel_ | we have 4 hirose u.fl connectors, cellular, wifi, GPs, and...? | 03:34 |
Estel_ | interesting | 03:34 |
merlin1991 | uh oh found the first on that is bad | 03:35 |
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merlin1991 | hm and I have to find out why I can't use all the help buttons anymore | 03:49 |
arcean | merlin1991: :P | 03:50 |
arcean | merlin1991: do you have user guide installed? | 03:50 |
merlin1991 | no | 03:50 |
merlin1991 | oO | 03:50 |
arcean | that's why it's not working :D | 03:50 |
merlin1991 | do you know the package name? | 03:51 |
arcean | hmm, sec | 03:51 |
arcean | userguide-content-guard userguide userguide-content | 03:52 |
arcean | you will have to use N9 repo IIRC | 03:52 |
merlin1991 | yep only userguide-content avaiable from the n950 repo | 03:53 |
merlin1991 | okay I have to work on two or three applets and see if I can adjust a few other programs | 03:55 |
merlin1991 | everything works in landscape but a few things are ugly | 03:55 |
arcean | yeah | 03:55 |
arcean | Music and Video needs some CSS tuning | 03:55 |
arcean | ahh, you mean applets :P | 03:56 |
merlin1991 | control panel applets | 03:56 |
merlin1991 | every single line in the main view is already an applet | 03:57 |
arcean | there's something wrong with transitions in landscape, when entering a new applet | 03:57 |
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merlin1991 | music, video, usb / tv-out, certificates, mail, ringtones, textinput and twitter | 03:57 |
merlin1991 | not really | 03:57 |
merlin1991 | it does not go to the left but moves the old applet to the top of the screen and brings in the new on from the right | 03:58 |
merlin1991 | so it looks odd | 03:58 |
merlin1991 | I'll see how much of those I can fix without editing on device files :) | 03:59 |
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arcean | ok, I'm heading to bed, cya :) | 04:04 |
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merlin1991 | arf ofc the control panel applets on the n950 are slightly off in the version compared to the n9 pr1.2 sources | 04:05 |
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Estel_ | I've noticed 5 testpads next to USB port on N950's motherboard. could it be testpads for USB port? :) | 04:37 |
* Estel_ is investigating | 04:37 | |
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aia832003 | hello, I am a new N9 owner and have a question | 04:55 |
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merlin1991 | ~ask | 05:01 |
infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 05:01 |
merlin1991 | btw anybody ever requested the sources of the n950 pr1.2 beta release | 05:02 |
merlin1991 | s/ase/ase?/ | 05:02 |
infobot | merlin1991 meant: btw anybody ever requested the sources of the n950 pr1.2 beta release? | 05:02 |
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Estel_ | anyone got experiences with screen protectors and N950? (unusual screen shape, curved a little). N9 screen protectors fit well? | 06:59 |
Estel_ | BTW, full disassembling - to single possible piece - and assembliong again finished successfuly | 07:00 |
Estel_ | if anyone - like me - though that connecting back N900's screen flat cable was a bitch to do, should try assembling N950's screen tilt mechanism | 07:00 |
Estel_ | took me at least 340 minutes, this sole element | 07:01 |
Estel_ | not to mention that needed to reverse-engineer where all those springs should be places, as they jumped out during disassemble | 07:01 |
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pa | ok, actually not. backlighter is not working | 10:48 |
pa | or.. it doesnt do what i need | 10:48 |
pa | sigh | 10:48 |
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pa | itsnotabigtruck, hei, you there? | 10:59 |
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chem|st | Estel_: we here already know that your "engineering" skills aren't what you think they are (n900 - 25minutes without domesheet, you get better if you draw wheat-beer over it^^), screens n9vsn950 are close to be the same but just close | 11:22 |
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ab | chem|st: n9 and n950 have very different screens technology-wise | 11:40 |
chem|st | ab: he was talking about the dimenstions of the glas surface | 11:43 |
ab | 3.9" vs 4.0" | 11:44 |
ab | OLED vs LCD | 11:44 |
chem|st | ab: we are not talking about the display panel... | 11:45 |
chem|st | screenprotector: will n9 protectors fit n950s | 11:46 |
Arkenoi | Estel_, can you identify screen manufacturer and model number for n950? | 11:46 |
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Arkenoi | merlin1991, do contacts work in landscape? | 11:48 |
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ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: there pr1.2 source | 12:10 |
Pali | is there some hacks or other way for forced autorotation for n950 as on nokia n900? | 12:14 |
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ZogG_laptop | Pali: i know only about few apps for sure | 12:18 |
ZogG_laptop | Pali: there is thread on TMO about how to enable in autorotation | 12:18 |
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Pali | do you have link? | 12:21 |
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jonni | Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85425 | 12:30 |
Pali | thanks! | 12:31 |
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Arkenoi | huh? twitter works in the landscape out of the box or did i miss something? | 12:36 |
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ZogG_laptop | Pali: sorry was timeouted. As well there are hacks for homescreen, lockscreen and others. few of those scripts in n9tweaks | 12:47 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: sup | 12:47 |
Pali | I found something on wiki.meego.com/N950 | 12:47 |
ZogG_laptop | Pali: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80600&highlight=n9tweak | 12:49 |
Pali | "This script work properly only on PR 1.3 and base/blanco theme !!!" | 12:49 |
Pali | I have N950 with PR1.2 | 12:50 |
ZogG_laptop | that app is actually all the hacks and scripts all together. it works only with pr1.3 now i think, but prev versions work with 1.2 as well as you can just check the source | 12:50 |
ZogG_laptop | Pali: prev versions were only for 1.2 =) | 12:50 |
Pali | ok | 12:50 |
ZogG_laptop | and prev prev were only for 1.1 =) | 12:50 |
ZogG_laptop | but better to ask schturman himself | 12:51 |
ZogG_laptop | Pali: there is new toggle for orientation MohammadAG made for his unrestricted system-ui | 12:53 |
ZogG_laptop | Pali: just add his incepted repo, i think it would work with n950 too, but better check thread | 12:53 |
ZogG_laptop | for both =) | 12:54 |
jonni | ZogG_laptop: just idling :) | 12:55 |
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ZogG_lap1op | Pali: sorry timeouting | 12:56 |
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ZogG_lap1op | arcean: saw screenshots of led ocnfigs - nice | 13:09 |
ZogG_lap1op | arcean: i'll wait till you merge with MohammadAG's version =P | 13:10 |
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Lava_Croft | \o/ nexus7 arrived | 15:03 |
Lava_Croft | it runs minecraft great and since thats the only reason to own a nexus7, its hooray | 15:04 |
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chem|st | Pali: do you know where to get bootreason from on n9/50? | 15:04 |
Pali | chm|st, I did play with it, but last year I was that dsme getboostate open source code getting bootreason from /proc/cmdline | 15:05 |
Pali | chem|st, but I do not know if this code was used on n9/50... | 15:06 |
Pali | if it is really in /proc/cmdline, then bootreason append NOLO to kernel command line | 15:06 |
chem|st | qmsystem is api lib to it | 15:07 |
chem|st | DocScrutinizer51 said he will have a look for me but also said that you might know | 15:07 |
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chem|st | Pali: yeah it is in /proc/cmdline | 15:09 |
Pali | ok | 15:09 |
chem|st | damn I needed to reboot cause ui hung... | 15:10 |
chem|st | need to wait for next random reboot... but I guess it was profilematic or organiser feed | 15:10 |
chem|st | oh could be fotoshare too... | 15:11 |
chem|st | one of the three | 15:11 |
chem|st | or the combination of all three | 15:11 |
chem|st | either way a devel tool making use of qmsystem with logging capability would make it much easier to point out any issues regarding starting/stoping/reloading services or programs | 15:13 |
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chem|st | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/examples/api_showcase.html | 15:17 |
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khertan | Hello ! | 15:37 |
khertan | still no hope in a 1.3 for n950 ? or at least an update of the qt components ? | 15:38 |
khertan | :) | 15:38 |
clau | I still didn't get it on my n9 :| | 15:42 |
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khertan | http://khertan.net/KhtNotes | 16:12 |
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ZogG_laptop | rzr: chem|st the problem in rawcam is aegis | 16:23 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: till i get home to check it, can you test something? | 16:23 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: do you have inception? | 16:23 |
jonni | ZogG_laptop: what kind of problem? | 16:24 |
chem|st | ZogG_laptop: nope | 16:24 |
chem|st | ZogG_laptop: the binaries from tmo work... | 16:24 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: it works for them as dev when deploying from qtcreator but not as user | 16:25 |
ZogG_laptop | it's obvs aegis i think | 16:25 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1241926&postcount=34 | 16:25 |
jonni | most likely just missing come capas in aegis.manifest | 16:25 |
ZogG_laptop | i'm currently in bus and laptop battery is going low, so i don't want to check it right now | 16:26 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: yeah i think so too, i wanted to clone his repo and try to build it myself | 16:26 |
jonni | as qtcreator uses develsh which has ovi credentials as default, and user in other hand has no capas, unless you have ovi signature in it. | 16:26 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: btw ovi signature, what rights does it give? | 16:27 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: i wanted to ask you about kernel few questions | 16:27 |
jonni | ZogG_laptop: ovi signature gives same capas as develsh | 16:27 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: how hard it would be to take out all Nokia changes and appl them to newer kernel | 16:28 |
ZogG_laptop | i want to update kernel | 16:28 |
jonni | which is also same capas as apps4meego signature. | 16:28 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: btw it would be usefull to add maybe OTGO | 16:28 |
jonni | so rawcam will work with proprt aegis manigest + apps4meego signature / ovistore signature / inception / AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN kludge. | 16:29 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: and bump someone at nokia to release pr1.3 for n950 =P | 16:29 |
jonni | s/proprt/proper/ | 16:29 |
infobot | jonni meant: so rawcam will work with proper aegis manigest + apps4meego signature / ovistore signature / inception / AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN kludge. | 16:29 |
ZogG_laptop | jonni: yeah that i know, its not my app. i just wanted to help, but had no time | 16:30 |
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ZogG_laptop | jonni: what about kernel? would it be too hard to do it> | 16:30 |
ZogG_laptop | ? | 16:30 |
merlin1991 | ZogG_laptop: I've asked about n950 1.2 sources because they are not exactly 1.2 sources | 16:31 |
merlin1991 | ie the contolpanel applets on the n950 have a version of 0.2 lower than the 1.2 public release | 16:31 |
jonni | ZogG_laptop: well in theory you can diff against vanilla, and make patchset, and apply that set against new kernel, (and merge conflicts by hand). so its doable, but I dont see many people in community playing with kernel. | 16:31 |
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ZogG_lap1op | jonni: what about kernel? would it be too hard to do it? | 16:32 |
jonni | ZogG_laptop: I was talking about kernel. | 16:32 |
ZogG_lap1op | timeouted and missed it | 16:32 |
ZogG_lap1op | lemme refresh log | 16:32 |
jonni | ZogG_laptop: well in theory you can diff against vanilla, and make patchset, and apply that set against new kernel, (and merge conflicts by hand). so its doable, but I dont see many people in community playing with kernel. | 16:32 |
ZogG_lap1op | jonni: i want to do it, but only if it's reasonable (time) and if it can be helpful | 16:33 |
ZogG_lap1op | jonni: but it would be only aegis free one right? i mean open-mode | 16:34 |
jonni | ZogG_laptop: well yes open-mode only if you want to use it in harmattan. You can in theory do custom kernel in sillyboot for nitroid, but there is even less users in there. | 16:35 |
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ZogG_lap1op | jonni: i hope for CSSU, and other distros | 16:36 |
ZogG_lap1op | jonni: currently i have funtoo as second boot on n950, but still works not properly. need to tweak more to get it on somehow stable state | 16:37 |
ZogG_lap1op | jonni: but it can be useful i think | 16:37 |
ZogG_lap1op | i don't think we gonna get 1.4 anyway | 16:37 |
ZogG_lap1op | itsnotabigtruck: is pr1.4 out already? =) | 16:38 |
MohammadAG | oh wow http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/apple-wins-eu-wide-ban-on-galaxy-tab-7-7-tab-10-1n-not-covered/ | 16:38 |
ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: affaik in london they force them to state on site that galaxy didn't copy threm | 16:38 |
MohammadAG | it's an EU wide ban | 16:39 |
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ZogG_lap1op | it's idiotic | 16:40 |
ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: btw left jerusalem | 16:40 |
ZogG_lap1op | not on the way to karmiel | 16:41 |
MohammadAG | why? | 16:41 |
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MohammadAG | how does one create a file with C code? | 16:42 |
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ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: escorting my mom to grandma house | 16:42 |
ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: fopen ? | 16:42 |
MohammadAG | oh :) | 16:42 |
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MohammadAG | I'm trying to touch a file in a segfault | 16:42 |
ZogG_lap1op | fopen(file,"r") or something like that | 16:43 |
MohammadAG | well, in a sigaction called when a segfault occurs | 16:43 |
MohammadAG | I'm not sure if using QFile is safe | 16:43 |
ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: if you would be able to close it in time =0 | 16:43 |
ZogG_lap1op | merlin1991: the pr1.2 on n950 is beta so it's different from n9 | 16:44 |
ZogG_lap1op | merlin1991: on n9 it's release | 16:44 |
ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: Pelephones internet sucks | 16:44 |
ZogG_lap1op | ~ping | 16:45 |
MohammadAG | ZogG_lap1op, tell me about it | 16:45 |
infobot | ~pong | 16:45 |
ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: i had second phone at pelephone as soldier, they stold money from me | 16:45 |
ZogG_lap1op | hate them from than | 16:45 |
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ZogG_laptop | just reconnected and has lag | 16:48 |
ZogG_laptop | damn it | 16:48 |
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ZogG_laptop | anyone in EU here? | 16:51 |
ZogG_laptop | i' mgonna ask nokia for pr1.3 sources, but it's better if someone from EU ask as well, you'll get faster | 16:52 |
MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, I just hate pelephone in general | 16:52 |
ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: i hate all Israel companies for service and how they freely F you in any possible situation | 16:53 |
ZogG_laptop | ok i'll try t save battery and to sleep on bus | 16:55 |
ZogG_laptop | anyway it reconnects everytime | 16:55 |
ZogG_laptop | and i have not much battery | 16:55 |
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khertan | who should i contact for a package that is build on the cobs but not appear on the repository ? | 17:17 |
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rcg | khertan: you have publishing enabled? | 17:30 |
rcg | just to check | 17:30 |
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khertan | rcg: hum ... it should | 17:38 |
khertan | will check :) | 17:38 |
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khertan | rcg: yep :) | 17:41 |
khertan | publish is enabled | 17:41 |
rcg | khertan: i see, is it KhtNotes? | 17:44 |
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arcean | merlin1991: you're looking for this? http://meego.gitorious.net/meegotouch/meegotouch-controlpanelapplets/commits/pr12dali | 17:47 |
khertan | rcg: yep | 17:51 |
khertan | rcg: sorry for the delay boss was in the room | 17:52 |
khertan | :) | 17:52 |
rcg | ;) | 17:52 |
rcg | well, sorry.. gotta go | 17:52 |
rcg | might try to ping X-Fade or lbt iirc | 17:53 |
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rcg | i had some issues with publishing of results due to some aegis stuff | 17:53 |
rcg | but thats about a year ago | 17:53 |
khertan | rcg: no problem you're welcome | 17:54 |
khertan | X-Fade, lbt: ping | 17:54 |
rcg | bbl | 17:55 |
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Estel_ | <chem|st> [10:22] Estel_: we here already know that your "engineering" skills aren't what you think they are (n900 - 25minutes without domesheet, you get better if you draw wheat-beer over it^^), screens n9vsn950 are close to be the same but just close | 18:08 |
Estel_ | chem|st,^^^ | 18:08 |
Estel_ | can't parse what You mean by 25 minutes, sorry, could You rephrase in english? | 18:08 |
Estel_ | as for screen, oI know googleable details, but thanks anyway ;) I'm asking about practice | 18:09 |
chem|st | Estel_: the screens of n9 and n950 are not the same | 18:09 |
chem|st | in terms of screen protectors | 18:09 |
Estel_ | as for rest, I really don't get what you mean, expect for part where you're trying to troll me ;) | 18:09 |
chem|st | but it might fit anyway | 18:09 |
Estel_ | yes. So? | 18:09 |
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chem|st | Estel_: you asked | 18:09 |
Estel_ | one is amoled with glass coated in conductive, transparent thingy | 18:09 |
Estel_ | that's why I'm asking n950 owners about *practical* experiences | 18:10 |
chem|st | not you too.... | 18:10 |
chem|st | WE ARE SPEAKING OF SCREENPROTECTOR NOT OF DISPLAY TECHNOLOGY! | 18:10 |
Estel_ | but what You mean in 25 minutes without domesheet part? | 18:10 |
Estel_ | yes, no need to write in caps. I'm asking about *practical* experiences with screen protectors on N950 | 18:11 |
chem|st | I disassamble and reassamble n900 in 25minutes without replacing domesheet | 18:11 |
Estel_ | nice, so what? | 18:11 |
chem|st | Estel_: you do not need a screenprotector | 18:11 |
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Estel_ | sure, i do not need phone too, but what's the point? N950 screen isn't scratch-resistant | 18:12 |
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Estel_ | digitizer, in fact | 18:12 |
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chem|st | if you are thinking of daily usage you might need depending on your way of careing | 18:12 |
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khertan | Estel_: don't put it with you car key in the pocket and you ll not have any problem | 18:12 |
Estel_ | I *want* it, not *need*, because I want to preserve N950 unreplaceable digitizer in ideal condition | 18:13 |
khertan | mine is one year old. | 18:13 |
khertan | no scratch on screen | 18:13 |
MohammadAG | will sell kidney for popcorn, I really need it right now | 18:13 |
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MohammadAG | khertan, accidents happen :P | 18:13 |
khertan | just two corner of the plastic case that are a bit .... melted ... a nice 8 meters drop | 18:14 |
khertan | MohammadAG: yep :) | 18:14 |
Estel_ | khertan, on n900, I have separate pocket for it, yet, i know how my screen protector looks after month ;) | 18:14 |
Estel_ | the problem is, that for N950 You can't buy giditizer replacement, any normal way | 18:14 |
Estel_ | so preserving it in ideal condition is top priority now | 18:14 |
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chem|st | ZogG: EU? | 18:15 |
khertan | i think you should better buy a complete case that just screen protector | 18:15 |
Estel_ | Arkenoi, found lotta hell of numbers on screen, but none googleablke | 18:15 |
khertan | s/that/than | 18:15 |
Estel_ | googleable* | 18:15 |
Estel_ | if You can give some pointers, I may try to identify manuf. | 18:15 |
Estel_ | khertan, complete case I'm doing on my own ;) | 18:16 |
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khertan | my n950 jump of my head a morning when i try to open the keyboard | 18:16 |
khertan | s/head/hand | 18:16 |
khertan | :) | 18:16 |
Estel_ | :) | 18:16 |
Estel_ | well, i've already did some initial sketches of custom body replacement for N950 too | 18:16 |
chem|st | Estel_: n900 screen protectors look like shit after minutes, I ripped one of the minute after I attached it... | 18:16 |
Estel_ | would like to make bigger cover for 7Ah battery, one day | 18:16 |
Estel_ | (although, custom body replacement for N900 is priority now) | 18:16 |
Estel_ | chem|st, depends on type, I got few favorite manufacturers of screen protectors (cheap ones) | 18:17 |
khertan | i was on a bridge and fly 8 meters and then bounce on asphalt | 18:17 |
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Estel_ | well, once I "meet* screen protector, that destroyed digitizer surface after ripping it off (it looked like shit after applying), so I don't experiment with new ones | 18:17 |
Estel_ | khertan, sure, but it was pure look, other people managed to break screen from half a meter | 18:18 |
Estel_ | in all normal conditions, from 8 meters, You should be RIP | 18:18 |
Estel_ | as rest in pieces | 18:18 |
Estel_ | not You | 18:18 |
Estel_ | Your* | 18:18 |
Estel_ | ;) | 18:18 |
khertan | yep .. was lucky | 18:18 |
Estel_ | again, I was amazed by ammount of free space inside N950 body (covered by alu just as filler), it got nice potential for meeega battery power, if presented with custom body | 18:19 |
Estel_ | with two 18650, You can still have less thickness than N900 with Mugen cover (and the latter is OK thickness for me, very comfortabe for writing on HW keyboard) | 18:20 |
Estel_ | but, first things first, N950 must wait before I finalize CNC refinning and N900 backcovers and bodies | 18:20 |
Estel_ | chem|st, out of curiosity, why disassembling and assembling N900 take as much as 25 minutes for You? 6 screws + another same for screen, + flat cable, basically? | 18:21 |
Estel_ | sure, flat cable is a #@$# to connect, but after some practice, You should be able to put it on 1st/2nd try max | 18:22 |
saidinesh5 | hi guys.. i m having a problem launchiing a PySide app in scratchbox environment | 18:22 |
virtuald | Maybe it's heatsink for GPS... Don't know if aluminium is suitable, just guessing | 18:22 |
saidinesh5 | http://paste.kde.org/521900/ | 18:22 |
saidinesh5 | this is the error log: it ends with :ASSERT: "idx >= 0 && idx < d->type->d->names.count()" in file util/qdeclarativeopenmetaobject.cpp, line 370 | 18:23 |
saidinesh5 | any ideas? | 18:23 |
Estel_ | virtuald, alu is suitable, but it's hardly heatsink by design in N950 | 18:23 |
virtuald | Ok | 18:23 |
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MohammadAG | http://i49.tinypic.com/2607g4g.jpg :) | 18:26 |
MohammadAG | that should solve broken plugins causing bootloops | 18:26 |
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RST38h | Mohammad: called Microsoft Word | 18:38 |
RST38h | Mohammad: but believe me you do not want to do it. Just write HTML by hand, it is real easy | 18:39 |
RST38h | Mohammad: Can be explained in 2-3 IRC messages even :) | 18:40 |
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MohammadAG | this'll have to do http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/system-ui-safe-mode-help.html | 18:56 |
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RST38h | MohammadAG: Argh! Word-generated HTML! | 19:13 |
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arcean | ZogG_laptop: http://i.imgur.com/VzUtj.png | 19:38 |
arcean | does it look like on the ancient harmattan version? | 19:38 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: nope | 19:39 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: i don't have old version anymore btw | 19:39 |
arcean | :< | 19:39 |
ZogG_laptop | arcean: i think icons were different and it wasn't that short | 19:40 |
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ZogG_laptop | arcean: check the video | 19:40 |
arcean | backup of the themes would be great :) | 19:40 |
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arcean | yeah, I know, it's scratchbox | 19:40 |
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arcean | it's short because I don't have any plugin here | 19:42 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: ping | 19:44 |
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ZogG_laptop | rzr: ping | 19:49 |
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faenil | how can I add harmattan target to qtcreator 2.5.0? | 19:52 |
faenil | ok I think I'm doing it myself ;) | 19:55 |
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rzr | ZogG, pong | 20:11 |
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MohammadAG | This coderus guy is fucking annoying | 20:44 |
pa | the one of the radio? | 20:45 |
MohammadAG | hm? | 20:45 |
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MohammadAG | no, the one that conflicted a package based on a personal argument | 20:45 |
MohammadAG | I really don't care, but if this causes me issues with users bitching about my packages, I'm leaving Harmattan | 20:46 |
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DocScrutinizer51 | yeah, come back to fremantle! ;-P | 20:51 |
MohammadAG | sorry, but if that happens I'm going to iOS | 20:53 |
MohammadAG | selling N9 and the Lumia 800 to get a 4S and a 5 when that's out | 20:53 |
rzr | we have to do something :) | 20:54 |
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rzr | MohammadAG, have you found a common denominator between ios and linux mobile ? I recently built gnustep but donno if it worth a try | 20:59 |
MohammadAG | rzr, I just find iOS very close to the N900 | 21:01 |
rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1241406#post1241406 | 21:01 |
MohammadAG | not in terms of openness, but in terms of hackiness | 21:01 |
MohammadAG | sure it requires LD_PRELOAD-like hacks, but better than android | 21:01 |
MohammadAG | rzr, what's gnustep? | 21:01 |
rzr | the root of mox | 21:02 |
rzr | nextstep framework | 21:02 |
rzr | before cocoa | 21:02 |
rzr | API like fundations etc are same | 21:02 |
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heymaster-laptop | rzr: you will try port opensource iPhone apps ? | 21:08 |
rzr | me ? | 21:09 |
rzr | this is a challenge for MohammadAG | 21:09 |
heymaster-laptop | ahh, ok | 21:09 |
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heymaster-laptop | rzr: maybe cocoa would be easier to port | 21:10 |
heymaster-laptop | i say cocoa apps | 21:11 |
rzr | worth a try yes | 21:12 |
rzr | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=116&release_id=240# | 21:12 |
Estel_ | ok, little question - how to change camera focus in goddamn camera pp of N950? | 21:13 |
Estel_ | not pr 1.2 yet, mind You | 21:13 |
Estel_ | this crap allow me to select macro, but doesn't allow me to focus on it, actually, keepin ~5m focus | 21:13 |
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heymaster-laptop | rzr: looks like old packages, objc very fast evolving | 21:15 |
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pa | question | 21:20 |
pa | anyone familiar with gps data? | 21:20 |
pa | what exactly is "gps filtering"? | 21:20 |
chem|st | ZogG: pong | 21:21 |
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pa | just averaging multiple samples? | 21:23 |
chem|st | pa: accuracy | 21:23 |
chem|st | depends on the used algorythm | 21:23 |
pa | let say the best one, what is it about? | 21:23 |
chem|st | the best one? you mean the "best" filter? that is where you still have a good track but no filesize at all! | 21:24 |
pa | no | 21:25 |
pa | the best algorithm to filter gps data | 21:25 |
pa | to compute the most accurate track | 21:26 |
chem|st | filtering takes place for view or saving tracks | 21:26 |
pa | yes | 21:26 |
pa | or computing info | 21:26 |
pa | such as speed | 21:26 |
pa | or distance | 21:26 |
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pa | and for that you want to have the most accurate path data possible, right? | 21:26 |
pa | otherwise you might be too fast or too slow, and distance might be off | 21:26 |
chem|st | speed is averaging already | 21:27 |
chem|st | well you could count in on each point but that would make you faster than light sometimes | 21:27 |
pa | wel.. speed is integrating more than averaging | 21:27 |
chem|st | that depends again, shown speed might be the average of 2-5 integrations | 21:28 |
chem|st | and as gps is off a few meters anyhow... | 21:28 |
chem|st | for pure view I would not filter at all | 21:28 |
pa | let see if i can find some algo on google | 21:29 |
chem|st | only for recording tracks | 21:29 |
pa | ah right, kalman | 21:29 |
pa | never implemented it, tho | 21:29 |
pa | question: are there opencl drivers for harmattan? | 21:31 |
pa | sgx530 supports it | 21:31 |
MohammadAG | I've gone closed source | 21:33 |
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MohammadAG | if anyone needs help with something, I'll be glad to help with some lines of code | 21:33 |
pa | :) | 21:34 |
pa | thanks | 21:34 |
MohammadAG | rzr, there's project magnetta | 21:34 |
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rzr | MohammadAG, that one is an other way | 21:41 |
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pa | how is is to plot a graph in qml? | 21:50 |
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MohammadAG | I don't get why kill -11 isn't triggering a SIGSEGV signal handler | 21:58 |
MohammadAG | hmm, wait | 21:58 |
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* rzr watched this qt vid https://twitter.com/rzrfreefr/status/227841138948730880 | 22:05 | |
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ZogG_laptop | jonni: about aegis, it does depend where app is iirc, right? | 22:10 |
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chem|st | ZogG_laptop: pong | 22:34 |
ZogG_laptop | chem|st: i just wanted to try something with rawcam | 22:36 |
ZogG_laptop | but i think it's less relevant now | 22:36 |
ZogG_laptop | i need qwazix | 22:36 |
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MohammadAG | arcean, ping | 22:42 |
arcean | MohammadAG: hi | 22:42 |
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ZogG_lap1op | now sort out led thing =P | 22:43 |
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ZogG_laptop | ghjgfjghjbn: nice nickname | 23:11 |
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chem|st | how do I restart/reload mce? | 23:36 |
chem|st | (so many things changed) | 23:36 |
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MohammadAG | chem|st, same | 23:52 |
MohammadAG | err, same way* | 23:52 |
MohammadAG | /sbin isn't in path though, so either add it or use /sbin/stop etc | 23:53 |
chem|st | grml | 23:53 |
chem|st | ty | 23:54 |
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