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teleshoeshello again harmattan!00:18
chem|stteleshoes: good morning!00:18
teleshoesanyone know if Colonel Sauce is coming anytime soon?00:18
teleshoesand good afternoon to you!00:18
teleshoespr1.3, i mean00:19
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teleshoesi assume one of the usual suspects put in the formal request instantly00:20
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teleshoesshit!00:24
teleshoesopen kernel has been up for 8 days and i didnt know00:24
chem|st;)00:28
teleshoesis someone working on a patch to neuter aegis?00:28
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Namekdoes any one knows how does harmattan handle windows? I'm wondering how can I rise a window..00:49
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tazzare there any packages at all which provide a http server for the n9 ?01:00
alteregoPython has one01:01
tazzalterego, heh, i was doing just that :)01:02
rzrlighthttpd could build01:02
tazzbut i was hoping for something like apache2 or lighttpd01:02
rzrmobi tried once01:02
rzryes i did01:03
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tazzrzr awesome!01:03
rzrwell its unfinished work01:04
tazzi am sure you'll get to it eventually when you get some free time. :)01:05
tazzdamn, i sure miss the up button on the n9 :)01:07
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pafunny02:14
paovi store expects screenshots to be square..02:14
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Elleopa: yeah, then you also have to upload some harmattan specific screenshots at the right resolution02:20
Elleoin a separate section after creating the item02:20
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paElleo, right, just hitted into that :)02:35
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pathanks!02:36
MohammadAGN950 sim slot ruined :(02:36
Elleopa: no worries02:36
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, how for so?02:36
MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: Empty microSIM adapter02:36
MohammadAGIt ripped the pins when I got it out02:37
MohammadAGWell not completely, but it doesn't see my sim anymore02:37
alteregotut, tut02:38
MohammadAGAnd never try to disassemble an N95002:39
MohammadAGThe slider mech holds the motherboard to the body02:39
GeneralAntillesThat sucks.02:41
GeneralAntillesGet a replacement? :(02:41
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MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: Contacted DDP02:43
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GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, gotta get somebody to smuggle it into the country, though? :P02:44
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MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: Usual shit, ship to Finland, arrives in 2 days, Nokia ship replacement, arrives to Israel in 2 days, stays in customs for a month or two, during which I'll be doing the usual bitching, after that I'll get my device and maybe Jolla will have a device02:46
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, you've got an N9, right?02:46
MohammadAGYeah02:46
GeneralAntillesWell, at least there's that. ;)02:46
MohammadAGDevel won't stop, but I'll miss the N950 :p02:46
GeneralAntillesYeah, it's a sweet device.02:47
MohammadAGI'm surprised it's a 64GB model02:47
alteregoWhat do you actually use N950 for then? :)02:47
hiemanshuMohammadAG: what happened to your N950?02:47
MohammadAGalterego: Showing off, what else02:47
alteregoHeh02:47
MohammadAGhiemanshu: Ripped sim contacts02:47
alteregoI've rewriting the nemo dialer app.02:47
hiemanshulol02:47
MohammadAGOh and the lumia's body is better02:47
alteregoStarting to come together really nicely.02:47
MohammadAGIt feels better02:47
MohammadAGalterego: Hardcode the iPhone ringtone in it02:48
MohammadAGI wonder if Jolla would hire me02:48
alteregoHeh, soon I'll be able to add telepathy support, currently it only supports ofono, but I'd like to plug in telepathy too :)02:48
alteregoMohammadAG: I believe they're looking for application devs, probably qml based.02:48
MohammadAGI'd prefer a decision taking position, so I could kill off QML :p02:48
alteregoMaybe you should send in your CV :)02:48
MohammadAGNo CS studies there yet :p02:49
jonnilong live QML2 :)02:49
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, can't hurt to apply.02:49
MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: Apply? Where?02:49
alteregoGeneralAntilles: have you applied? :P02:49
alteregoI bet they've got a _lot_ of applications to go through.02:49
MohammadAGAlso do I need to move? Customs will hold me for a month :p02:49
GeneralAntillesalterego, I have few actually marketable skills.02:49
alteregoHeh, you could be official photographer? :)02:50
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, Jolla.02:50
GeneralAntillesalterego, lol02:50
MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: I meant where as in where/how would one apply :p02:50
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, oh, duh.02:50
GeneralAntillescareers@jolla.com or something like that.02:51
GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer, ping!02:51
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MohammadAGOh, no official form02:51
MohammadAGDocScrutinizer05: ping02:51
DocScrutinizer51sigh02:51
GeneralAntillesIt's a heavy world.02:51
GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer51, where'd you apply with Jolla?02:52
alteregoMohammadAG: Stskeeps works for them and he hasn't had to leave his country :P02:52
DocScrutinizer51applications@jolla.com02:52
GeneralAntillesI was SO CLOSE.02:52
GeneralAntillesShit.02:52
alteregoWell, doesn't work _for_ them, but does work _for_ them.02:52
alteregoActually, I sent mine to careers@jolla.com02:53
MohammadAGDoes a C++ backend writer who hates QML qualify? :P02:54
alteregoYou shouldn't be so fussy.02:54
DocScrutinizer05or that02:54
MohammadAGI'm really not sure how people see potential in QML02:54
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, if I had $500, I'd hire you.02:54
alteregoMohammadAG: because it's nice, just because you're not good at it :P02:54
MohammadAGalterego: Usually I'm not :p02:54
MohammadAGalterego: I can do an app in it :p02:55
alteregopfft02:55
DocScrutinizer05Das Kanalthema lautet: „Unofficial JollaMobile IRC channel, https://twitter.com/JollaMobile | careers@jollamobile.com | For Core-level discussions, join #mer“.02:55
alteregoDo you want to write the dbus proxy plugin for my voice call manager service?02:55
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GeneralAntillesChrist. It was in the topic?02:55
MohammadAGalterego: What does it need to do?02:56
MohammadAGThere's a channel?02:56
alteregoMohammadAG: I'm not really serious, I'm autogenerating it with qdbusxml2blah02:56
DocScrutinizer05[12.07.2012 10:30:06] <Stskeeps> TheBootroo: send a CV and UI portfolio to careers@jollamobile.com02:56
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, read MWKN more.02:56
MohammadAGUI portfoilo?02:56
DocScrutinizer05NFC02:57
alteregoMohammadAG: because they want QML app developers :P02:57
DocScrutinizer05I chatted with aard02:57
GeneralAntillesLiar02:57
alteregolol02:57
DocScrutinizer05and I think my CV is a pile of bullshit02:57
DocScrutinizer05google for joerg@openmoko if you wanna know about me and what I do02:58
alteregoDocScrutinizer05: mine is almost certainly a pile of bullshit, I'm just crap at selling myself :P02:58
GeneralAntillesThey should just ask me if they need to more info.02:58
GeneralAntilles"Who? Shit no. Fuck those guys."02:58
alteregoDocScrutinizer05: wget 'http://www.google.com/?s=joerg@openmoko' -O DocScrutinizer05-CV.html02:59
AranelN9If I rotate my neck one more time to see my music playlist while driving I think It'll fall apart from my body. Any hacks/ideas to enable landscape on stock music player?02:59
DocScrutinizer05I hope I don't need the new job tomorrow, when I sit longer at this PC in the night03:00
jonniproductive day today, I've pimped my N950 to be dualbooting PR1.3 + Nemo and replaced warning screen with custom bootlogo :)03:00
alteregoHmm, only 1619 lines of code in two days03:01
DocScrutinizer05jonni: I'd hopend you'd write your own hacked NOLO03:01
jonniDocScrutinizer05: heh, dont have to hack nolo, I just figured out how to cope with CAL, now it doesnt bother me on openmode and lockcode works too :)03:03
DocScrutinizer05you haxored libcal.so?03:03
DocScrutinizer05though I thought the CAL accesses are statically linked into dsme and whatnot03:05
jonniheh, you have few options, other is just copy the cal blockdevice to file, and make kernel to show your custom readwrite blockdevice as /dev/mtd1, and other way is even easier :)03:05
DocScrutinizer05hmm replace mtd1. yep, sounds straight approach03:07
MohammadAGPentile isn't that bad03:11
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, go die in a pit.03:11
DocScrutinizer05heh, you know how I found #jollamobile? I thought it might be a nice idea to register #jolla, but surprise surprise it already existed, with a link to #jollamobile in topic03:11
GeneralAntillesStskeeps is too quick for us humans.03:11
MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: Hehe03:12
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MohammadAGAranelN9: No but I wrote entertainment view and never finished it :p03:12
MohammadAGqmafw is badly docuemented03:12
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, did you get a Metawatch yet?03:12
alteregoI suppose I should start sticking GPL licenses on my dialer (ng) code ..03:12
MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: No, but I was looking at the new revision today :p03:13
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, it'll change your life.03:13
MohammadAGThen I noticed it doesn't work with the iPhone 4, only te 4S, so I was like meh :p03:13
GeneralAntillesYeah, but Jolla.03:14
AranelN9MohammadAG: :) I just thought that there may be a forced-landscape option to force music player to work that way.03:14
AranelN9MohammadAG: just like the Maemo 5 days03:14
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alteregoAnd the morning, the wonders of building a new dialer UI, and implementing the pulse audio, audio routing code to manage handsfree kits and internal speakers.03:41
alteregowoo03:41
alteregoMaybe I'll also implement the ability to route the audio across network and sockets.03:41
* alterego zzZZZzzzZZZZZzzz03:42
DocScrutinizer51alterego: rather implement proper hooks on ~everything03:45
DocScrutinizer51ala rexx03:45
DocScrutinizer51or dbus03:46
DocScrutinizer51though dbus is meh for proper hooks/scripting03:47
alteregoHrm, well.03:47
alteregoI may have a better idea actually.03:48
alteregoAnyway, bed for me. g'night folks.03:48
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itsnotabigtruckyou guys need to get spacechem RIGHT NOW, assuming one didn't already through the humble bundle or some such04:17
itsnotabigtruckit's $2.50 on steam but only for an hour and a half04:18
CreamyG31337cool04:20
CreamyG31337i already got that one04:23
itsnotabigtruckyeah, it's not very new so i'm sure lots of people have04:23
itsnotabigtrucki got it on sale for $10 or something a ways back and it was totally worth it04:23
itsnotabigtruck$2.50...you can easily spend more than that on an energy drink04:23
CreamyG31337i dunno opening that damn steam store probably just cost me $50 cuz theres lots of stuff i want now :(04:25
CreamyG31337THANKS :P04:25
CreamyG31337dunno why i feel i need to buy stuff i will never have time to play04:26
itsnotabigtruckhaha04:26
itsnotabigtrucki bought a bunch of steam games in the past, but then you get to a point where you already have most of the stuff that's cheap that you want04:27
itsnotabigtruckout of today's steam sale items, dx:hr, spacechem, and portal 2 seem like the only must-haves04:28
itsnotabigtruckand dx:hr is off-sale already04:28
itsnotabigtruckand everybody should have portal 2 already, lol04:28
MohammadAGMeh, also lost my microSIM04:28
MohammadAGfml04:28
itsnotabigtruckMohammadAG: what happened?04:29
MohammadAGI just lost it, somewhere04:29
MohammadAGAnd the sim slot, but I mentioned that before04:29
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, would it help if I sent you some cookies?04:29
MohammadAGGeneralAntilles: No, I ran out of fuel too :p04:31
MohammadAGImma try to leave the iPhone for a bit, see what I miss04:34
MohammadAGOh nice, windows decided to reboot my pc while I was syncing04:35
MohammadAGI like how it decides I'm not using it04:35
itsnotabigtrucklol04:36
itsnotabigtruckMohammadAG: do you have it configured to do fully automatic updates04:36
itsnotabigtrucki always set it to download and prompt, which only seems to result in it nagging me over and over about rebooting04:36
MohammadAGYes, but I expect after 3 releases it knows when to update04:37
MohammadAGitsnotabigtruck: If a timer is activated before hibernating and you resume then the timer is already over04:37
MohammadAGIf I title an empty email CV will that count?04:38
MohammadAGI seriously dont know what to put in one04:39
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, talk to Jaffa or somebody before you send it.04:39
GeneralAntillesCover letter might be useful.04:39
MohammadAGNo I mean with no education (yet) and all04:40
MohammadAGBesides high school04:40
GeneralAntillesOh04:41
GeneralAntillesI can read.04:41
GeneralAntillesI promise.04:41
GeneralAntillesWell, they should know who MohammadAG is.04:41
GeneralAntillesIf not, they are unworthy of your attention.04:41
GeneralAntillesMohammadAG, this is probably the best group of people to get help with that from.04:43
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padoes N9 charge with shaking?09:51
denismpa09:55
denismpa: if it is switched off - then yes, there is some vibra when charging is started09:56
padenism, no i mean09:57
pai just saw an application "shake to charge"09:57
paand i was pretty skeptical it actually would work09:57
denismpa: wow cool feature :) Yes I do not believe it is possible09:58
pahttp://store.ovi.com/content/291807?clickSource=browse&categoryId=16&contentArea=applications&pos=909:58
denismBut I am sure it is possible to increase the battery level indicator if needed :)09:58
pa:)09:59
pai got a weird QA answer..10:00
pa"Please check that you’ve entered the correct Support Website as it appears to be invalid or does not function"10:00
pabut it's there and its alive10:00
denismBut nice idea - create a similar app, but which will charge batteries - user just need to put the battery to N9's cover10:00
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denismpa: does it have 'http://' ?10:01
itsnotabigtruckpa: lmao @ the concept10:02
pait didnt, but the page says i dont have to put it there10:02
pawell i can try to do it anyway10:02
denismyes if it would have  - it would not work 100%, but as you do not have it - should be fine10:02
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paah..10:02
paso i dont have to have it.10:02
paok i remove10:02
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pahttp://meeswitchernet.bonas.us10:05
pain case you also want to profit from it :)10:06
denismpa: if it is the page - yes it can be considered as a broken one, like 404 pages on some websites10:06
denismfor the 1st look :) if do not read the text carefully10:06
pathere's even the icon!10:07
chem|stalterego: I was trying to get the columbus build dependencies made and did not get the rxsupport library to be recognized, for your -dev lib says -lrxsupport not found, then I figured that the lib does not get packaged but build so I moved it around and made it recognized by hand but still the same error, any suggestions?10:08
denism:) :) :) QA is quite random, so it might be that the 2nd time the same page will be ok10:08
chem|stdo I need to move libs to the compiler directories of each target as if in system it does not realy get recognized or I do something else wrong, see above10:09
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alteregochem|st: no sorry, what are you building it for Harmattan?11:45
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alteregochem|st: I would like to update Columbus soon, maybe in a few weeks I'll have some time to look at it again. :/11:46
chem|stalterego: yeah harmattan11:47
chem|stit is one essential from n900 I do not want to miss on n911:47
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alteregoUnfortunately there are parts of Columbus that are very Fremantle11:49
alteregoThose parts will need to be replaced.11:49
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chem|stalterego: I hope I will receive another "working" device soon and I am all yours for testing as last time for n900 ;)12:18
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alterego:)12:20
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mikelimaHi all, I have tried publishing my first app, but the review has rejected it, because my site links to garage.maemo.org...13:29
mikelimaHas this happened to you as well? How can this be solved? My App has an older version for Fremantle, published on maemo extras, I do not like to have two different sites for this...13:33
thpmikelima: what do you mean with "my site links to"?13:36
mikelimasorry, I have been rereading the wording of the qa rejection13:38
mikelimamy site is this: http://quandoparte.garage.maemo.org/13:38
mikelimaand there is a download section (which points to the garage page)13:39
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mikelimaDownload files for maemo are not actually required, since they are published in extras/testing13:41
mikelimaMaybe the problem is simply that the about page of the program points to the site?13:41
mikelimaAnyway, it is puzzling that they are this stringent about this... it is not like I am trying to sell anything13:43
mikelimaI simply want people to be able to get the sources, if they want...13:43
pamikelima, i got some similar troubles too13:45
mikelimapa: how did you solve it?13:45
pa"website invalid" while it was up and running13:45
pawell13:45
pai reapplied, it's up and running13:46
mikelimapa: my problem is that they do not like what I have on the site...13:48
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pamikelima, easy to solve13:49
paremove it13:49
paget it accepted13:49
pathen readd it13:49
mikelima:)13:50
mikelimaWorth a try.13:50
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pacool.. i still get invalid website..13:50
pawtf arethey doing at nokia?13:51
mikelimapa: what is your application?13:55
pathe funny part is that i got no access from them, according to apache logs13:56
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pamikelima, its meeswitchernet.bonas.us13:56
mikelimaThank you, very simple site... I wonder if I can just point them to a page within the main site and be done.13:59
mikelimapa: thank you, you have been very helpful!14:00
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jonnipa: what did you enter into website field?14:02
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jonnipa: url needs to be with http:// since it will fail QA if you have that :)14:03
jonnis/with/without/14:04
infobotjonni meant: pa: url needs to be without http:// since it will fail QA if you have that :)14:04
pajonni, yes i have it without14:05
jonniand that dns name have been valid for 2+ days, as sometimes dns propagates slow?14:07
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pajonni,  well i dont know , it looks like mikelima could access it too14:14
pai updated it yesterday14:14
pa(coz i had to clean the server)14:14
jonniwell some of the qa people are around the world and might have slowly updating dns, thats why its usually better to just add folder to existing name line bonas.us/meeswitchernet etc, if root name has been up for 2+ days... otherwise you might need to wait day or two for resubmit14:16
paactually it's a wildcard14:17
pa(of bonas.us)14:17
pado you think this might be a problem?14:17
payes i think thats it14:17
pawhois returns error14:17
pabut thats lame14:18
pachecking the dns and not even checking the website14:18
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paups...15:26
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pai think i got why the website is invalid15:27
pai just recalled i actually have a geoip filter on my firewall :#p15:27
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pajonni, so finally i got back at the sportstracker clone.. may i bug you again regarding the light sensor? : ))16:05
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Wntis there any open source tracking software available on N9? something like mappero and ecoach that were on N90016:31
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phakomarble does tracking16:38
Wntthankyou phako i'll check that out16:39
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mankelioh yeah, nokia sent me a mail that they are going to send me pr1.3 src dvd17:17
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SpeedEvilWoo!17:22
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mhoyeHello, folks. Question about Harmattan.17:42
mhoyeI found a blog post that showed Hildon running on a Thinkpad, dated 2007.17:43
mhoyeWhen dinosaurs roamed the earth.17:43
mhoyeIs it possible to run hildon/harmattan on x86 today?17:43
mhoyeWell, "possible".17:43
mhoyeIs it relatively straightforward?17:44
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trxmhoye harmattan does not use hildon as far as i know18:02
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trxhildon is GTK, Harmattan uses Qt for UI18:03
mhoyetrx: Yeah, I think I'm in the wrong channel for that.18:06
mhoyeHarmattan, though?18:06
mhoyeI suspect the answer is no, but I've heard about this "nemo" thing.18:07
trxharmattan no 100%18:09
trxi have no idea about Nemo, maybe someone else knows18:10
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phakothere are nemo images for x8618:54
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teleshoeshey, anyone know how to buy things in the nokia store?20:29
teleshoesin firefox on linux, that is20:30
teleshoessome user agent string, or a url that will just let me buy it and get the fucking deb?20:30
teleshoesi feel like this used to work20:31
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teleshoesi get internal server error20:36
jonnimost likely you need to buy through the phone client (or fake the client string)20:36
teleshoesugh that client is so horrible20:37
teleshoesi dont know how to use it20:37
jonnisearch the app and click the buy-button, not that hard to use :)20:38
teleshoeswhere does the deb go?20:38
teleshoessomewhere in /var/cache/apt?20:38
jonniyep normal linux place, but its rm'ed after the install by default. But you can change the default :)20:39
teleshoesthank god, that 5 download policy thing drives me crazy20:40
ZogG_laptopniwakame|away: ping20:42
ZogG_laptopsup guys20:42
jonniits the normal non-effective anti-piracy thing, since if you make personal backup, they dont want you to distribute it, as it doesnt have any copyprotections and is ovi signed.20:42
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teleshoesyea20:42
teleshoesits so weird,20:42
teleshoesespecially because its a gpl'd app im buying20:43
ZogG_laptopteleshoes: what app btw?20:43
teleshoesconnected vibro20:43
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teleshoesugh i cant get the appstore client to work20:48
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teleshoesany one else have trouble with it, pr 1.2 open mode?20:48
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rlinfatiHi, how i can setup an mms apn ?21:10
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rlinfatialso, my n9 get a very very fast fix , without use internet here in chile :D ( my last fix and internet connection was in london )21:15
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teleshoesanyone know if an aegis-neutered pr1.3 kernel is in the works?22:02
jonniteleshoes: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.3/openmode-kernel/zImage-2.6.32.54-dfl61-2012130122:04
teleshoesi thought that was straight open mode22:04
jonnithat is neutered22:04
teleshoesi want something like the patched pr1.2 kernel people called open!mode22:04
teleshoesYEAAAA22:05
teleshoesawesome22:05
teleshoesis the patch and original sources floating around somewhere?22:05
jonniif its not in that website yet, then answer is no.22:05
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teleshoesthanks, jonni22:10
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pacool22:27
pagot one N9 stolen22:27
teleshoesstolen?22:27
payeah22:27
pawell not on me, but on my gf22:27
teleshoessuch balls22:27
pabloody gipsies22:27
teleshoesim sorry for your loss22:27
pawell thanks22:27
pai wonder whether police can track it with the imei22:28
teleshoeswas it literally stolen by romani?22:28
teleshoesprobably not22:28
pai was so dumb i didnt activate track and protect22:28
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pawell she said there were some guys who looked gipsies22:28
panot necessarily romani22:28
pagipsies are everywhere22:28
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teleshoesyou know, gypsy != thief22:29
teleshoesbut w/e22:29
pawell22:29
pabut often..22:29
rZr#define often22:29
teleshoesblack people also eat fried chicken22:29
teleshoesdoesnt mean associating them isnt racist22:30
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teleshoesalso, #define, heh22:30
pawell look, i dont want to sound racist, here it's nothing about race, but about culture. the fact is that wherever they are, they cause problems22:30
teleshoesthats totally about race22:31
rZrracists are causing problem too22:31
paprobably they feel ok with stealing around22:31
paand this cause problems with those who are not ok with that22:31
teleshoesi hate to beat you up about it when youre down and out22:31
rZrwell i am enough w/ this dont want to take part of it , later guys22:31
teleshoesbut the cultural slurs are uncalled for22:32
pateleshoes, race is about what genes you have. and gipsies come from different ethnic groups22:32
teleshoesdeclaim thieves, not cultures22:32
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paanyway22:34
paphone is gone22:34
teleshoessux22:34
paif i get stolen my other one, i'll move to android :)22:35
teleshoesoh god22:35
jonnihopefully you have enabled track&protect to your other one :)22:35
teleshoesyea, s'good idea22:35
teleshoes...i think ill do that now22:36
panot, but now i will :)22:36
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jonniofcourse if you have the imei, you can report that one, and operators will add that one to blocklist so phone stops working in western countries where operators share blocklists.22:37
jonnimakes selling the device a bit harder :)22:38
payes i will do that, but apparently the police said they can sort of track the phone, given the imei22:38
paso maybe i'll give them some days and see if they can do something22:39
jonniyep if phone is online, they can triangle it down from celltowers, but resolution is about 100-1000meters.22:39
pacan they find out what sim is in there?22:39
paif so , they could call and see where it rings :)22:39
teleshoesunless the thief is retarded, your sim is in the trash22:40
pai know22:40
teleshoesoh i see22:40
teleshoesi dunno22:40
jonniyes, if he is stupid enough to use his sim, but usually they use prepaid22:40
teleshoesits plausible that they could ring it22:40
jonnibut yes they can call22:40
pacool :)22:41
pain norway you need an ID to get prepaids anyway22:41
jonnibut usually cops have real crimes to solve, so they only hunt phones if they are really bored :)22:41
payea, i guess it's often the case here :p22:41
teleshoesgotta say ive never heard of someone with a good experience with police investigating theft22:42
pai guess if one cries enough saying your life is in that smartphone, they might try to help22:42
jonnimaybe I should setup my track&protect too, as its free to setup, and usually people start to setup after the phone is gone :)22:43
paespecially if that's a girl :p22:43
ieatlintthe police have a good track record if you have the track&protect style stuff22:43
teleshoesi personally think22:43
ieatlintbut track&protect is based on your imsi, if they ditch your sim card, it's useless i thought22:43
teleshoesthat its like 10x more important to back up your data22:43
teleshoesoh, i didnt think so22:43
teleshoesmaybe22:44
ieatlinti thought you queried the phone via sms where it was with that setup22:44
jonniieatlint: it records imei too, and turns of that evil lockcode query if you switch sim card22:44
ieatlintjonni: great, but that doesn't recover a phone22:44
jonnibut it sends the phonenumber of the new sim to t&p servers ;)22:45
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pajonni, btw about that stuff in pm, do you think i should forward it to  tmo or nokia forum?22:45
ieatlintdoes it send the gps coords too?22:45
SpeedEvilIt's not always programmatically possible to get phone number.22:46
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jonnipa: ah that one, I think that I already saw solution to that question in tmo or in N9tweak application.22:46
SpeedEvil- the SIM doesn't always know.22:46
paah.. i can try to search22:46
pan9tweaks22:48
paindeed22:48
pathanks!22:48
panow i have to track down the sources22:48
jonnipersonally I would just setup ddns client & open firewall ssh port on gprs into the phone, that way if it ever comes online I could just ssh in and do the magic :)22:49
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pathats what i wanted to do too22:50
paand never had time22:50
ieatlintthat would be effective and typically low power22:50
jonniI've already setup all my laptops to update ddns on the background, if anyone ever happens to steal one... :)22:50
pasome sort of fping on cron22:50
paon my server, and then just check ulog logs22:50
Stskeepsjonni: somebody once stole a router from me.. and it popped up somewhere else, in my old hometown22:50
Stskeeps:P22:50
pais there cron on harmattan?22:51
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jonnipa: yes there is cron22:51
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pacool, then i think i will set it up on mine to test it out :)22:51
jonnior Im not 100% sure, havent checked. but atleast you can add stuff to bootscripts22:52
teleshoeswhoa, has anyone else lost the internet connection using unrestricted-system-ui?22:52
paa fping every 5 min with some special payload that u32 or some other filter will catch22:52
jpnurmiAny idea why does QML Image element containing a PNG image with some gradient layer look like crap? If I draw the two layers as separate images, it looks much better22:53
teleshoesi dont have internet connection anymore in mag's sysui, with the brightness app22:53
jonnijpnurmi: mostlikely because of 24bit to 16bit conversion22:54
teleshoesoh, i dont have .desktop for it22:55
teleshoesweird22:55
teleshoesguess ill just add it22:56
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pajonni, so i checked n9tweaks, it tweaks it with editing mce.ini (and it does it for good, and it requires reboot)23:06
pai was looking more for an api call to cut it off only in my app23:06
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jpnurmiso why does Image { source: "image://theme/meegotouch-empty-application-background-black-portrait" } look much better than Image { source: "/usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/backgrounds/meegotouch-empty-application-background-black-portrait.png" } ?23:50
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