IRC log of #harmattan for Thursday, 2012-07-12

Ariadenoman works tough00:00
Ariadenoi guess the problem lies in manpath00:00
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HtheBMohammadAG: did you check the link?00:04
gabriel9what do you mean restfull? :)00:06
gabriel9i know what is REST(service)00:06
Ariadenooohh linux people who can live without manpages.. only at meego I guess :P00:07
jonnigabriel9: there are multiple webservers that work in harmattan, but if your trying to find one that has php then your out of luck.00:08
gabriel9this dude says it has installed it :D00:09
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jonnigabriel9: thats for N900, not harmattan00:10
rigojonni, I have a key in /var/lib/apt/lists for org.formeego.apps but apt-get install says origin cannot be determined  -- signature check failed00:10
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rigoso I can't install apps for meego, which is sad00:11
jonnirigo: apt-get --reinstall install aegis-community-source-policy00:11
jonnimaybe your just missing formeego pgp key? :)00:11
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rigojonni++ that worked...00:14
rigoI owe you many beers if we ever cross paths somewhere00:14
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Namekgrabiel9: you can follow the instructions on
NamekI have tried that and it works00:40
Namektough I don't know about php00:40
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rrobertI would like to flash my N9, but NaviFirm doesnt know my exact product code. :(00:42
rrobertcan I choose another file?00:42
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Kozziyou can use the one with similar countr/area code00:44
KozziI mean those 001,002,....00:44
rrobertKozzi: I have 059L50400:45
rrobertso the 4 is important?00:45
ieatlintif you go to the about screen in your phone, it should give a version number for the software that ends in something like "_PR_001"00:46
ieatlintmatch that number00:47
Kozzior open Dialer and call *#0000#00:47
rrobertit is PR_23200:49
ieatlintthat means you have a specific carrier variant... the risks of using navifirm increase as i understand00:51
rrobertieatlint: I bought it in germany as a no branded unlocked device. on the packaging switzerland is mentioned00:53
ieatlintrrobert: presuambly you'd want to flash the PR_001 variant, which is the generic european one, but the standard warnings apply that you may irreversably brick your phone and simultaneously void your warranty00:54
ieatlintand i personally have no idea how likely that is00:54
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rzritsnotabigtruck, reclaim your prize
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GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer, insteresting.02:14
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itsnotabigtruckGeneralAntilles: huh? what ended up happening with your 95003:25
befordhe used OCF PR1.203:26
befordCAL string still said 1.2 so it allowed it to flash with that03:26
itsnotabigtruckoh geez, all that and it turns out it never actually got "upgraded"?03:27
itsnotabigtruckwell, good to see it turned out ok03:27
itsnotabigtruckbut that means it was much ado about nothing03:27
befordyea, I suppose it did not "upgrade" completly and the string wasn't changed03:28
GeneralAntillesitsnotabigtruck, I'm an idiot is what.03:28
befordthat too03:28
GeneralAntillesAh well.03:28
GeneralAntillesI blame google.03:28
GeneralAntilles39-5 was the only thing that was turning in searches.03:29
infobotwell, firmware is hardware that is beginning to melt  Firmware for GrandStream phones is at
GeneralAntilles~n950-firmawer is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from
infobotokay, GeneralAntilles03:30
GeneralAntillesI don't know version strings like I did in 2009.03:30
GeneralAntilles~n950-firmware is The latest OneClickFlasher for the Nokia N950 is available from
infobotokay, GeneralAntilles03:30
GeneralAntilles~forget n950-firmawer03:30
infoboti forgot n950-firmawer, GeneralAntilles03:30
infobotGeneralAntilles: thanks03:30
GeneralAntillesOh well. Maybe I got MohammadAG investigating something exciting with CAL or something.03:31
itsnotabigtruckalso rzr: $807 and rising? no thanks :p03:31
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itsnotabigtruckman, people are willing to spend serious money on these03:31
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GeneralAntillesScarcity is what drives value.03:33
GeneralAntillesNot much out there more scarce than an N950.03:33
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itsnotabigtruckit drives price, not value03:34
itsnotabigtruckbut when price outstrips value, then one would expect demand to drop03:34
GeneralAntillesYeah, it's late, I'm through my first glass of wine and I haven't had dinner yet. ;)03:34
GeneralAntillesMy noun usage suffers.03:35
itsnotabigtruckand an n950 certainly doesn't deliver that much value03:35
itsnotabigtruckwell, no, i'm just nitpicking about words03:35
GeneralAntillesI'm know that tendency well.03:35
itsnotabigtrucki'm just astonished that anyone's willing to bid that high, rare or no03:35
NamekIf I had the money I would pay even more03:36
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louis__Anyone alife? :P06:07
itsnotabigtrucklouis__: kind of :p06:07
louis__Well hi here ;)06:09
louis__When you get a text msg from a new number. Why can't you easily click on it and add to a new or exiting contact? :P06:09
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itsnotabigtrucklouis__: tap the contact icon at the very top right corner06:15
itsnotabigtruckwhen you have the sms open06:15
itsnotabigtruckit'll bring up a box saying unknown contact06:16
itsnotabigtrucktab save06:16
itsnotabigtruckthen edit06:16
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itsnotabigtruckso not very obvious but it can be done :)06:21
louis__nice thx :P06:22
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gambitrexHi, quick question regarding QContactPhoneNumber class: Why a phone number could possible have more than 1 SubType?08:52
gambitrexI mean, a phone number cant be a Mobile number and a Pager number at the same time, right?08:53
denismgambitrex: it can be Mobile and Fax at the same time08:54
denismMessagingCapable - can be even a Landline in some cases08:55
gambitrexdenism: never saw that, but that's aceptable. Consider this: when you open your Contacts, and tap over a contact. a new window is opened, with all contact details. For a given number, you can have one subtype, like home, mobile, work, etc. How can I get that value?08:56
gambitrexQContactPhoneNumber::subTypes () very often has count > 0, so I want to get one of those "default" values08:57
gambitrexdid I made myself clear?08:58
denismgambitrex: sorry do not remember, but at 'Contacts' app it might be not a real 'subtype' but something else08:58
denismas I remember, for sending SMS I have checked for SubTypeMessagingCapable - and it is not possible to set up such type08:58
gambitrexdenism: and how the OS can check if given number is MessageCapable or not?08:59
denismI think they are adding it to every Mobile number :) It is usual in Harmattan - inconsistency particular app using some API and middleware provider of that API :)09:00
denismI do not think that UX designer of Contacts even know anything about Qt / QtMobility :)09:00
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gambitrexseems like I'll need to do a big switch/case for "main subtypes", and if any phone number has a "strange subtype" (like SubTypePager), I'll set it to some default subtype09:02
gambitrexdenism: haha :)09:02
gambitrexdenism: thanks09:02
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gambitrexdenism: just discovered that I was looking at the wrong place. I should get the QContactDetail::contexts() instead of QContactPhoneNumber::subtypes(). :)09:20
gambitrexcontexts().count is always 1 or 0. If it's 1, it's Home, Work, and so on. And if it's 0, the Contacts app show as Others09:21
gambitrexprobably numbers from social network contacts09:21
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denismgambitrex: cool, never tried that09:21
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gambitrexso the UX designer of Contacts probably knows something about qtmobility after all.. haha ")09:22
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pais it possible to use google talk to call landlines on n9?11:06
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infoboti guess update is
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azeempa: is this generally possible at all?11:39
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denismazeem: I think google voice works so?11:48
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paazeem, of course you can call regular phones with google voice11:53
paits way cheaper than skype11:53
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Venemo_N9how do I make the N9 prefer wifi over 3g?11:54
fluxI think it does that automatically, if you have wifi-hotspots you are allowed to automatically connect?11:56
spenapVenemo_N9: it should probably do it by itself. If both are set as automatic, it should pick the wifi one when it finds it11:56
fluxso hold-and-press a wifi ap in the ap list and choose 'automatically connect'11:56
fluxhmm, press-and-hold11:56
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Venemo_N9spenap, well, it doesn't work12:05
Venemo_N9spenap, I need to manually click on connecting to it. both are set to be used automatically.12:06
spenapweird: I never had that problem, I'm sorry12:07
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Lava_Croftsame, cant confirm that problem12:38
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chem|stgot my n9 now... unboxed and charging over usb... first notice: usb export of devices massstorage did not work...12:57
Stskeepssure it does, you just have to choose it12:59
Brownoutchem|st: it should present you with a dialog asking if you want to connect it ass mass storage, nokia whatever is called or nothing.13:00
chem|stBrownout: turned off?13:00
Brownoutif it's a used unit it could have the settings for not asking and always use the same mode13:00
chem|stBrownout: community award, shiny new ;)13:00
chem|stand nokia is cheap... 16GB black... but sending for 65eur with dhl express...13:01
BrownoutI can't find the menu entry right now, I'm a new owner too13:01
Brownoutthere you go settings->accessories->usb13:02
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chem|stBrownout: device is off, gets exported but a failure while initialising in windows stops it from working13:59
BrownoutI don't even know if it's supposed to be seen as mass storage while turned off. Never seen a phone working like that.14:01
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DocScrutinizer05N9 never is off while plugged to USB14:05
DocScrutinizer05even WLAN ssh sessions live on happily while device "shut off" while hooked to charger14:06
thpchem|st: one reason why usb mass storage wouldn't work is that some process has a file open in MyDocs/, which prevents it from being unmounted14:06
jonninever say never,  but usually its not off :)14:06
thpyes, N9 "off" on usb charger = "actdead mode" (at least it was called that in n8x0 times)14:06
DocScrutinizer05this act_dead mode is even less anything of an off-state than on diablo/fremantle14:07
DocScrutinizer05see "ssh session" ^^^14:07
thpDocScrutinizer05: so network connections stay up in harmattan when "powering down" the device on a charger?14:08
DocScrutinizer05yep, obviously14:09
DocScrutinizer05iirc there's been an option to do that in fremantle as well, in mce.ini14:09
DocScrutinizer05but seems the default changed14:09
jonniactdead is just init 5.14:10
DocScrutinizer05I know14:10
jonnibut you can turn your device off if you want14:10
DocScrutinizer05and init 5 obviously neither tears down wlan nor stops sshd14:11
thpthe bad thing about actdead is that when you tell users to reboot, you have to tell them also to unplug the charger cable, otherwise not everything will be reloaded14:11
jonniif you do shutdown -h now, it stops wlan and ssh, and shuts down for real14:11
DocScrutinizer05sure, since that is init 6 ;-914:12
jonniand you only wake up if you press power button.14:12
jonnivs init 6 is reboot14:12
DocScrutinizer05ooh! init 014:12
DocScrutinizer05though I guess no more init states on upstart/startupd14:13
DocScrutinizer05mce.ini: PowerKeyLongAction=poweroff,   the N900 mce.ini section [SoftPowerOff] - with ConnectivityPolicyPowerOn=offline - seems gone14:19
jonnibut true, if you have enabled any of the rd flags with flasher, then device will always powerup when usb cable has been connected. But if you havent then you can still turn device totally off.14:20
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DocScrutinizer05hmmm, I can't recall setting rd-flags. Still I noticed my wlan ssh session living on when I powered down via powerbutton. Not sure though, have to check rd-flags, I might have tinkered with them14:27
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DocScrutinizer05also there might be differences between N9 and N950? and between the different sw-revs?14:28
DocScrutinizer05ok, can't reproduce this effect on N950 now14:30
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chem|stdoes it need a sim in to boot?15:02
chem|stthen I might have a broken one, display stays black, music plays... nothing happens, is there a trick?15:04
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: there should be a NOLO bootscreen, even (aiui) an animated one15:15
DocScrutinizer05congrats, you got a lemon :-/15:16
chem|stshould it show something while charging?15:17
DocScrutinizer05push powerbutton, LED fades in, vib kicks and same moment there shall be a white NOKIA on dark background15:17
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DocScrutinizer05aaaah wait, you never ever powered it up yet?15:17
chem|stvib kicks?15:17
saloutHow can I open a downloaded file on my N9?15:17
DocScrutinizer05might need 20h of charging15:18
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: had it charging for an hour or so..15:18
DocScrutinizer05too short15:18
DocScrutinizer05it has charging issues on lowbat, as usual15:19
DocScrutinizer05use N900 fastcharger, watch for LED lighting15:19
chem|ststeady then blinking now fading... nothing on screen15:20
DocScrutinizer05(aiui the LED should light up anyway, even when bat too low to boot CPU)15:20
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DocScrutinizer05steady means either emergency charge, or charging finished15:20
DocScrutinizer05flashing should mean CPU booted up, so at least NOLO worked and configured the LP552115:21
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DocScrutinizer05dunno what NOLO does on low battery15:21
DocScrutinizer05you might want to use flasher15:21
DocScrutinizer05to force charging15:21
chem|stok now it is fading on fastcharger... that should do right?15:22
chem|stwhite led15:22
chem|stno on and off in a fading way15:22
DocScrutinizer05yep, meant that15:22
chem|stlike the n900 used to15:22
DocScrutinizer05should mean "normal charging continues"15:23
chem|stok I leave it like that, the logo should kick in sometime then?15:23
DocScrutinizer05let it sit for 4h15:23
DocScrutinizer05I think it should15:23
chem|stok got a meeting now anyways15:23
DocScrutinizer05or eventually LED goes steady, then battery is "full"15:23
chem|stok ty, later!15:24
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DocScrutinizer05indeed it seems NOLO is flashing LED, while HARM changes that to fading-in/out15:25
jonniput it on wall charger for few hours15:28
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: so yes, it's exactly like that: "steady (while emergency hw charging), then blinking (for some seconds, until NOLO loaded and started kernel), then fading"15:33
DocScrutinizer05I think the more specific term for fading is "breathing light"15:34
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: ty16:39
chem|stafter an hour still no sign of display I will wait16:42
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: as long as it has breathinglight it should be fine with charging, and actually after a while (maybe one hour of charging) you should be safe to "boot" it16:53
DocScrutinizer05or s/boot/power up/16:53
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: well I leave it charging for now... there is different respons for a short press of pwrbtn now so it seems doing something but I don't want to power it up yet16:54
DocScrutinizer05why not? :-)16:55
DocScrutinizer05U love suspense?16:55
DocScrutinizer05it actually is powered up I'd say, you'd just change it from runlevel 5 to runlevel 2 or sth like that16:56
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vladestsooooooooo. what about pr1.3 for n950? :)17:13
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spenaplol, this is now looking like a meme17:19
spenapthe PR1.3 for N950 meme17:19
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chem|stDocScrutinizer05: different colors would be useful... now it is steady but emergency charging (better?)17:25
DocScrutinizer05yep :-)17:25
DocScrutinizer05charging finished17:25
DocScrutinizer05power it up now!17:25
DocScrutinizer05I can't stand the suspense any longer ;-)17:26
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chem|stno display...17:26
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: I'd suggest to unplug17:27
DocScrutinizer05then push powerbutton17:27
DocScrutinizer05and see what LED does17:27
DocScrutinizer05should fade in, then vibrator kicks and same time "NOKIA" displays17:28
chem|stled gets brighter till vibe... then still no display17:28
chem|sthave it lit then blinking then breathing again17:29
DocScrutinizer05without charger?17:29
chem|stwith charger17:29
chem|sttakes some time to get it start and turn off properly without screen or light behaviour17:30
chem|stnow I got it turning off fith vanishing light and after that replugged to wallcharger17:30
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: you *might* connect it to AV+TV _after_ powering up and waiting 60s17:35
DocScrutinizer05I just tested it and it doesn't detect AV-plug when it been plugged during power-up17:36
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: can try that at home yeah17:37
chem|stbtw why is there no av-connector with it? 700eur phone without goodies boxed, apart of a 2c silicon wrap17:38
DocScrutinizer05or N9?17:39
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bluesleethp: ping18:00
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bluesleethp: how do you do your development using pyside / qml? do you use qtcreator? do you test your gui directly on the corresponding device or do you use emulation?18:03
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: yeah, for N9 it's a bit scarce accessories18:11
DocScrutinizer05probably "nobody" ever used the AV cable, so Nokia thought it's wiser to reduce sales pricetag by 5 bucks18:12
DocScrutinizer05or rathter, it simply didn't fit into that tiny box ;-D18:13
mankeliwell i use that sometimes for playing movies18:16
mankeliand i have heard that inside nokia they played presentations with it18:16
mankeliand of course i have recorded/showed all my demos with it18:17
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chem|stfuck it...18:20
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chem|stit is remaining to charge for a few minutes then it goes steady light and remains there...18:27
chem|stunplugging for a minute and I can start over...18:27
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chem|ststeady - blinking - breathing18:28
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chem|stand no more starting sound if I try to power on18:28
topi`any news about these Jolla guys? I wonder what kind of starting point they will use, will they have access to the Nokia version of harmattan18:29
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topi`or maybe use some open source fork as a starting point...18:29
VelmontI don't think so, has been talked about Mer and the community.18:29
VelmontAnd building it on QML. -- So think it's a redo.18:30
VelmontNokia has copyright on the harmattan stuff, and keeping it closed, so guess no help there.18:30
topi`I know nothing of QML18:30
topi`I guess it would be possible to still be compatible with harmattan binaries...18:31
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denismtopi`: Harmattan is based on 'Meego Touch Framework', which is deprecated even for N9 apps18:46
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denismso I am sure any new device will not support it18:46
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infobotextra, extra, read all about it, flashing is
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: it's up and running18:54
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: steady means "charging complete"18:54
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: a short push of the powerbutton should lock/unlock the screen and thus switch on/off the steady LED18:55
DocScrutinizer05if it is up&running, and charging completed18:56
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: do NOT flash a defect device!18:56
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DocScrutinizer05flashing is adventurous enough with proper "feedback" from a working screen18:57
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: holding powerbutton for 20s should switch down the N9 unconditionally (if unplugged), so next press of powerbutton should fade in LED again, then kick vib... etc19:00
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: you got a lemon19:01
DocScrutinizer05chem|st: :.((19:01
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: if you power up the device unplugged and you feel vib, you shall also see "NOKIA". If not, screen is defect19:02
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: ok, cjecking with N9 now, slight differences19:05
chem|stwhat are the differences19:06
DocScrutinizer051. on power-up the LED doesn't fade in19:06
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DocScrutinizer05it pops up19:06
chem|stand there is a difference in light intensity between the initial steady light and the steady light after breathing...19:06
chem|stok I had both fading in and a bright popup19:07
DocScrutinizer052. it takes only 2s power button to power up19:07
DocScrutinizer05press power, 0.5s nothing, the LED kicks in steady, after 2..3s vib and "NOKIA"19:09
DocScrutinizer05all of the above without charger19:09
DocScrutinizer05aaah, and LED off with vib and "NOKIA"19:09
pai am so shocked.. SGS2 lasts twice as much as n9..19:10
pa(battery life)19:10
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koetwice: 4 days with average usage?19:15
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paway less, 3 max19:20
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paand i think my average is less than average19:20
chem|stDocScrutinizer05: fuck it the screen is gone video out shows even in off mode the wallcharger icon19:20
DocScrutinizer05thoufgt as much19:21
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: go to settings, check brightness, as... you never know19:22
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chem|stI am trying... seems like a refurbishment... device settings were macedonia language czech and so on19:30
chem|stbut I cannot hit ok on the first screen19:30
keitsiwhat's reminderservice process? it's taking all my cpu time. occured after pr1.3 update. reboot didn't help, manually killing it did though.19:35
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chem|stwhat is region 006?19:45
arcean006: Arabic19:46
chem|stmiddle east...19:46
chem|stso what now? send it back?19:47
arceanyes, contact DDP19:47
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* DocScrutinizer05 wonders if chem|st got the N9 the IL customs fucked up before they sent it back to Nokia to unarm the bomb there20:06
DocScrutinizer05I.E. the one meant for MohammadAG20:06
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DocScrutinizer05chem|st: N9 might get serviced "locally"20:10
DocScrutinizer05completely dead screen sounds like connector fell off20:10
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DocScrutinizer05iirc Nokia got a service center in Duesseldorf20:11
DocScrutinizer05or was it Bochum?20:11
DocScrutinizer05and this class of "defect" might even get serviced in certified Nokia care points20:12
DocScrutinizer05like swapping battery etc20:12
DocScrutinizer05but sure, ask DDP what to do20:13
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DocScrutinizer05though... better contact Quim first20:13
DocScrutinizer05at least if your device didn't come with proper receipe and service contact on that20:14
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gambitrexHi. Is it possible to send to QML a QList<MyObject*> thru setContextProperty()?20:25
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Namekgambitrex: it is possible I always do that to export my models from c++20:41
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gambitrexNamek: I am facing problem when exporting. Compilation error: QVariant::QVariant(void *) is private.20:42
gambitrexNamek: do you have any practical example?20:43
Namekgambitrex: cast them using  QVariant::fromValue()20:43
NamekI don't have one right now but I can guide you trough it if you want20:44
Namekso given something like this QList<QObject*> list20:44
Namekyou can do something like this:     viewerContext->setContextProperty("listModel", QVariant::fromValue(list));20:44
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Namekand in qml you set the ListModel to listModel, or the names you choose20:45
gambitrexNamek: I tried to cast, but still no luck. 'QObject::QObject(const QObject&)' is private20:46
Nameknot sure what are you trying to do there, export it using QVariant::fromValue(YOUR_QLIST)20:47
gambitrexNamek: yes, I tried that. From the reference (, seems like I need to "use the Q_DECLARE_METATYPE() macro to register your custom type."20:48
gambitrexNamek: but seems like the Q_DECLARE_METATYPE() works only to structs, not for classes. Is it right?20:48
gambitrexNamek: Can I post my code (it's small, no worries) to pastebin so you can look into it?20:49
NamekI'm not sure about that, I have never done it that way, usually what I do is create a class that inherits from QObject and has all the properties I need, then I create a QList with that stuff in it, and I export it as I told you using QVariant::fromValue(), but let me see the code :)20:50
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gambitrexNamek: The error I got when using QVariant::fromValue() is            'qt_metatype_id' is not a member of 'QMetaTypeId<QList<Contact*> >'20:51
gambitrexanyway, I am preparing the pastebin20:52
Namekok :)20:52
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gambitrexit should be quite simple. A small class that contains a QList<AnotherCustomClass*> list, and I want to export instance.list20:59
NamekI see, probably it doesn't like the QList inside the QList :s because everything seems to be the same that I always do, I guess that you are trying to access contacts right? there's an example in the api showcase, have you check that?21:02
Namekyou can download the code and check the send sms example, there they access contacts in a very clean way21:02
Namekcause I don't see anything wrong in what you are trying to do :s21:03
gambitrexNamek: I am able to retrieve all contacts in a assyncronous, no problem. All I need to do now is to pass the list to QML, and figure out how ListModel works21:04
gambitrexmaybe if I take the list out from the class? hmm.. let me try21:04
NamekI haven't try something like this, let me see if I can export a QList inside a QList, wait just 5 min..21:04
gambitrexI know you're quite busy testing, but I was wondering how could I access that "List inside List" in QML. Would be great if that could become an JS Array() somehow...21:09
NamekI'm pretty sure that if you remove the QList that you have inside Contacts class it's going to work, can you comment it out and try it?21:10
gambitrexsure. let me try, hold on21:10
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Namekgambitrex: I can't make it work with the QList, I'm still checking.. also here's an example of one of my classes, usually I do like this
gambitrexI see you use setters by signals/slots. I am not using that. DO you think that could cause the problem?21:17
NamekI don't think so, but that's the way I learned to do it, don't remember what documentation I was reading..21:17
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gambitrexNamek: I just removed the QList inside contact, and still doesnt work21:18
NamekWeird, so that's not the problem, could it be related to QTM_USE_NAMESPACE?21:19
NamekI'm sorry I'm not an expert, can you try to comment out that and #include <QContactPhoneNumber>21:20
pahow do i send an app to appsfor meego?21:22
gambitrexNamek: Still, same problem21:24
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gambitrexNamek: I am running out of ideas21:24
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Namek:( wish I could help, I don't see something wrong, well then can you try to do with setters, signals/slots ..21:26
gambitrexNamek: thanks. I'll see what I can do. Thank you very much21:28
gambitrexNamek: YEEES! Worked! I had to Q_DECLARE_METATYPE(QList<Contact*>); outside any namespace21:31
NamekGreat :D21:32
Namekare you participating in the contest?21:32
pawhy would i submit to a4m instead of ovi store?21:35
Namekcause a4m are cooler :p ?21:36
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NamekI think you can publish it in both21:36
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payes i think its possible, but why would i ever bother to publish in a4m?21:38
NamekI'm not the one to answer as I haven't done it, I think but don't take my word for it, that a4m can handle dependencies21:41
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pado i have to pay in order to publish on ovi store?21:46
Namekin order to register there's a one time fee of 1 euro21:49
Namekafter that you just get money :)21:49
paah perfect21:50
pawell i have only free stuff to publish for now21:50
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gambitrexNamek: how do I "bind" my list to a ListModel?21:58
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Namekgambitrex: Sorry I wasn't here, did you worked it out? what I do is that every time I change the list I export the new value, so you set the model to the exported list and if you changed it just export it again23:34
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