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| ZogG_laptop | i thought encypted is s like secure like rtp and srtp | 00:04 |
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| aep | any idea if the lockscreen can be disabled? like double tab to get to the menu directly? if not, is there an api for it? | 00:05 |
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| Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: rtmpdump is made for this task, atleast downloading | 00:08 |
| Kozzi | but one need to digg out the url of the streawm first | 00:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: srtp? | 00:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | if it's only RTP than use tcpdump | 00:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | and wireshark | 00:09 |
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| Kozzi | I used wireshark and filtered with rtmpt | 00:10 |
| Kozzi | but only get bunch of Unknown (0x0) packets | 00:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | so no audio? | 00:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | used Voip flow ? | 00:12 |
| Kozzi | nope, one handshake c2 and bunch on unknown packets | 00:14 |
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| niwakame | strange, after fastern9 installation the billboard doesn't work anymore oO | 00:33 |
| niwakame | ah ok | 00:33 |
| niwakame | you always have to wait in life for things to happen | 00:34 |
| niwakame | :P | 00:34 |
| niwakame | out for today! | 00:34 |
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| Sniper_swe | how do i get ssh root access after pr 1.3 | 01:29 |
| Sniper_swe | the old way from pr12 seems to not be working | 01:30 |
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| koe | which way? | 01:32 |
| Sniper_swe | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79645&highlight=problem+ssh+root | 01:33 |
| koe | i use ssh developer@192.168.2.15 and devel-su then if needed | 01:35 |
| koe | never fails | 01:35 |
| Sniper_swe | yeah used user now in putty | 01:41 |
| Sniper_swe | the devel-su | 01:41 |
| Sniper_swe | hard in filezilla though | 01:41 |
| jabis | Sniper_swe: you had the developer mode bug? | 01:43 |
| jabis | enabling it didn't work | 01:43 |
| Sniper_swe | nope worked good | 01:43 |
| jabis | kk then it was someone else | 01:43 |
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| Kozzi | would this work on harmattan: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rtmpdump/2.4~20110711.gitc28f1bab-1/+build/2844279 ? | 02:57 |
| Kozzi | desperately need the swfVfy function but it's not available in rtmpdump v1.9 for harmattan | 02:58 |
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| jabis | reinstalling scratchbox - gahhh hd failures are a charm | 06:28 |
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| beford | !flashing | 08:52 |
| beford | ~flashing | 08:53 |
| infobot | from memory, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing_N9 | 08:53 |
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| japh | what? I have to install wine to flash my n950? | 08:56 |
| beford | I dont know | 08:57 |
| beford | I think you cant actually flash n950 with n9 firmwares | 08:57 |
| virtuald | don't think you do if you download the firmware with naviperl | 08:57 |
| beford | so just Oneclick flash | 08:57 |
| japh | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ but this? | 08:58 |
| jabis | hrm - is there no way to cancel the default button actions, except freezing ui daemons - seems stupid | 09:06 |
| jabis | event propagation / bubbling would be quite essential -.- | 09:07 |
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| kimju | btw, does anyone know how to get url's for emmc images? naviperl only seems to find the system images? (and I don't have navifirm, nor even machine to run it with) | 10:56 |
| Jaffa | ZogG_laptop: pong | 10:58 |
| dm8tbr | kimju: I think someone mentioned you need to switch the server it talks to | 11:01 |
| jabis | ok so I can patch into dbus and freeze qmkeyd2 manually, but what daemon controls the powerbutton? | 11:02 |
| jabis | or rather which daemons is the pb latched | 11:03 |
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| Sniper_swe | how can i gain ssh root access in pr 1.3 | 11:26 |
| Sniper_swe | echo -e 'mkdir -m 0755 -p /var/run/sshd\nexec /usr/sbin/sshd $SSHD_OPTS' >> /etc/default/ssh | 11:26 |
| Sniper_swe | pkill -9 /usr/sbin/sshd wont work for me:/ | 11:26 |
| thp | Sniper_swe: why do you need root access? just set a password on 'user' and ssh into the device like that, then 'devel-su' your way to root-ness | 11:27 |
| Sniper_swe | yes a use it like that now and it works good with putty. want root access for filetranser true filezilla. | 11:29 |
| Sniper_swe | its not the end of the world if I cant get it. putty works good with devel-su | 11:30 |
| Sniper_swe | and usally i dont need to access root system in filezilla | 11:32 |
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| jabis | you on windows? | 11:43 |
| jabis | you can script some custom commands with wincscp to transfer the files from ex. MyDocs to root dir | 11:44 |
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| trench | wonder when my device is gone give me 1.3 | 12:05 |
| eman` | Have any N950 users here upgraded via naviperl downloaded images? | 12:06 |
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| vladest | eman`: do you know how to download n950 image with navifirm? | 12:11 |
| eman` | vladest: Nope. I'm wondering if anyone knows if N9 images work on it.. | 12:14 |
| vladest | not sure | 12:14 |
| Lava_Croft | i think they do, but im not sure either | 12:14 |
| Lava_Croft | so better get conclusive answer from someone first | 12:14 |
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| jabis | gahhh - impossible to overload teh powerbutton - or then I just have teh dumbs | 12:32 |
| jabis | too much stuff to include just to render a piece of hardware (or it's first event rather) useless, for the span of running the app | 12:34 |
| jabis | were it js - it would've been global.addEvent('click',function(event) { event.stop(); dothisinstead(); }); and done | 12:36 |
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| ZogG | Kozzi if you want audio check how | 14:50 |
| ZogG | Call Recorder do it | 14:50 |
| flux | hmm, are the music I get with the music store app somehow protected from copying, should I ever choose to buy something there? | 15:04 |
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| flux | apparently they are protected. perhaps even annoyingly so that inception won't automatically help.. | 15:05 |
| alterego | I thought Nokia store didn't use DRM, but maybe I'm wrong .. | 15:07 |
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| ZogG_laptop | flux: don't they copy them to storage? | 15:14 |
| flux | zogg_laptop, they? storage? | 15:14 |
| flux | they are possibly .wma files with some encryption | 15:14 |
| flux | probably only the keys are aegis-protected | 15:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | i would buy if it ws mp3 in a bad case | 15:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | flac is my choise | 15:15 |
| pokk_ | hi guys.. i was wondering if meego/maemo would run on x86 devices, harmattan for example | 15:16 |
| SpeedEvil | No. | 15:18 |
| SpeedEvil | In general, there are large binary components that are ARM only. | 15:18 |
| pokk_ | aha, i see.. but your talking about drivers and other hw specific low-level system stuff or in general for the majority of the software, e.g. the UI and so on | 15:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | pokk_: it would if you get all source and recompile rewrite certain parts and drivers for x86 | 15:22 |
| mankeli | well, don't harmattan packages compile already on HARMATTAN_X86? | 15:23 |
| pokk_ | probably nokia keeps big part of the code closed source, is that true ? | 15:23 |
| mankeli | and then you can use meegotouch thru xephyr | 15:23 |
| alterego | pokk_: why do you want Harmattan on x86? | 15:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | pokk_: yes | 15:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | mankeli: partly yes, but you not everything and what about drivers integration into closed parts? | 15:25 |
| pokk_ | no i just wander what kind of alternatives are there ... alternatives to android/ios, recently intel released two handsets with atom and android-x86 | 15:25 |
| pokk_ | for the asian/indian market | 15:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | pokk_: i don't think atom would win this war | 15:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | and if you asking if you can run harmattan on other device - answer is no | 15:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | pokk_: if you want new phone check bb10 | 15:27 |
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| pokk_ | it's not about winning, but about being competitive | 15:27 |
| pokk_ | haha, yes i do want new phone.. i had n810 in the past | 15:27 |
| mankeli | ZogG_laptop: well yeah, not everything. dunno if harmattan talks to peripherials with standard linux interfaces or is there something propietary | 15:27 |
| pokk_ | now, haven't tried n900/n9 it's said what happend | 15:27 |
| pokk_ | ZogG_laptop: blackberry with proprietary os ? | 15:31 |
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| ZogG_laptop | pokk_: i was never against proprietary | 15:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | depends on quality and user freedom | 15:46 |
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| petteri | if the scratchbox environment works like in maemo5, you could probably use that to create a setup for x86 | 15:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | petteri: i think it's the same scratchbox you use for both | 15:57 |
| petteri | nice | 15:59 |
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| petteri | by the way, does anyone know how I can open a specific localtion in maps | 16:00 |
| rigo | store it as favorite? | 16:01 |
| petteri | from outside of the maps app, something like maps://xpos,ypos | 16:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | petteri: i think so, afaik some apps can use it | 16:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | petteri: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Using_location_and_maps_in_applications.html | 16:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | petteri: still waiting for your app om apps4meego and can try to help with building it there | 16:05 |
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| petteri | :) | 16:06 |
| petteri | i thought that will use somekind of qml map component | 16:06 |
| petteri | i need to read it more carefully, thanks! | 16:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | even if it uses qml component that component probably using maps | 16:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | as well as i think you can pass data to maps app | 16:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | petteri: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/examples/api_showcase.html - i think this is inapp maps usage example | 16:08 |
| petteri | ZogG_laptop: thanks! | 16:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | petteri: it was good i searched for it for you, i may take few examples from there for my apps =) | 16:10 |
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| faenil | sup? :) | 17:20 |
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| TMavica | anyone know how to free up the swap memory? | 17:36 |
| TMavica | when swap memory at 0, the phone so lag, only way is to reboot, can I free up under xterminal? | 17:37 |
| azeem | TMavica: how much regular memory is free? | 17:40 |
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| TMavica | it strange, when sway memory got 0, free memory got over 100, but if swap memory got nearly full, free memory is below 100 | 17:42 |
| TMavica | but i just found the phone got laggy when swap memory nearly use up | 17:43 |
| TMavica | that moment i need to reboot to free it up | 17:44 |
| azeem | what unit is 100? | 17:44 |
| azeem | are you talking about percent? | 17:44 |
| TMavica | i tried swapoff swapon still cant free up the swap memory | 17:44 |
| TMavica | is MB | 17:44 |
| azeem | better pastebin the output of free | 17:45 |
| azeem | as in, "free" the command | 17:45 |
| TMavica | i just a newbie...any way to free it up instead reboot? | 17:46 |
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| azeem | TMavica: no, you can't free up swap - either you are seriously out of memory and need to close applications, or the phone is swapping, i.e. loading/unloading swap | 17:47 |
| azeem | at least AIUI | 17:47 |
| TMavica | i totally closed all apps, same. | 17:48 |
| azeem | how do you know how much memory is free? | 17:49 |
| TMavica | by drop cache information | 17:49 |
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| azeem | TMavica: so how much swap is free? | 17:52 |
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| TMavica | now my phone free is 190, swap is 0 | 17:54 |
| TMavica | very lag now | 17:54 |
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| TMavica | i dont reboot now, see whether the swap will go up for not, now all apps is closed | 17:55 |
| azeem | so no swap is used at all? | 17:55 |
| TMavica | now free is 190/985, swap is 0/255 | 17:57 |
| azeem | used or free? | 17:57 |
| azeem | sheesh | 17:57 |
| Rakkeni | :) | 17:57 |
| TMavica | ? | 17:58 |
| azeem | TMavica: what is drop cache saying exactly? | 17:59 |
| azeem | "Swap: free 0 of 255 mb"? | 17:59 |
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| TMavica | yes | 18:02 |
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| faenil | guys, what do you think? https://twitter.com/faenil/status/221257590624104449 | 18:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: master | 18:09 |
| faenil | mmm | 18:09 |
| faenil | keep getting different answers :( | 18:09 |
| faenil | 2:2 atm | 18:10 |
| faenil | can you elaborate more? | 18:10 |
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| Rakkeni | do both? | 18:12 |
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| Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: I want both the audio and video live streamed to n9 | 18:13 |
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| faenil | both' | 18:19 |
| faenil | ? | 18:19 |
| Kozzi | yeah using rtmpdump one can stream live tv streams to n9 | 18:21 |
| Kozzi | oh lol I though it was for me | 18:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | what is the app that add setting for homescreenbackground in setting? | 21:20 |
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| ajalkane | ZogG_laptop: Home screen settings | 21:29 |
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| rZr | thp, #InterestingNews = @selop witch is on burning platform ? | 22:51 |
| thp | rZr: my personal wish would be OSS release of harmattan UI layer so we can customize it for cssu, but i'm not having high hopes ;) | 22:55 |
| rZr | makes sense | 22:57 |
| ajalkane | maybe we can buy it from @selop for 10€ once Nokia goes bankrupt in about 1.5 years | 22:57 |
| tehdely | yeah let's put together a pool to buy NOK | 22:57 |
| rZr | thp, something like mozilla project ? like aol vs netscape ? | 22:57 |
| ajalkane | We can just buy the Maemo/Meltemi parts + assorted patents. Nokia has no use for them anymore. Should be worth about 10€ for Elop :). | 22:58 |
| rZr | thp, i know already one company who will fit on a such project .... | 22:58 |
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| jesuschrist^ | hi | 23:18 |
| jesuschrist^ | anyone knows how is called the package of netview ? | 23:21 |
| jesuschrist^ | cant download it from ovi | 23:21 |
| jonni | http://store.ovi.com/content/214366 | 23:24 |
| jesuschrist^ | hey jonni sup = | 23:24 |
| jesuschrist^ | cant download it as i said, i think i messed up with repos | 23:24 |
| jesuschrist^ | cant download from browser either the buttons appear offline | 23:24 |
| jesuschrist^ | "offline" | 23:24 |
| jonni | store.ovi.com/content/214366/download or fix your repoes. | 23:25 |
| jesuschrist^ | hey ty | 23:25 |
| jesuschrist^ | i believe theres something wrong anyway | 23:26 |
| jesuschrist^ | but i cant determine what | 23:26 |
| jesuschrist^ | apt-cache search netview returns nothing | 23:27 |
| jonni | ofcourse it does as it is only supposed to find if after you have installed it. | 23:27 |
| jesuschrist^ | what ? | 23:28 |
| jesuschrist^ | thats untrue | 23:28 |
| jonni | apt-cache does not search from ovi store. | 23:28 |
| jonni | you cannot say apt-get install netview | 23:29 |
| jesuschrist^ | deosnt it search from the same repos as the store ? | 23:29 |
| jonni | nope, apt repo is different from ovi store repo | 23:29 |
| jesuschrist^ | oh i see | 23:29 |
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| jesuschrist^ | jonni : have you installed screen on n9/n950 ? | 23:31 |
| jesuschrist^ | gnu screen | 23:31 |
| jonni | yes I have | 23:31 |
| jesuschrist^ | where did you find the package | 23:31 |
| rZr | i think its in my place | 23:32 |
| jesuschrist^ | no its not rzr | 23:33 |
| jesuschrist^ | already checked :) | 23:33 |
| jonni | I think that one version is in rzt | 23:33 |
| jesuschrist^ | you do have tmux | 23:33 |
| jonni | rzr even | 23:33 |
| jesuschrist^ | wich it seems i cant install either | 23:33 |
| rZr | yes i have tmux too | 23:33 |
| jesuschrist^ | missing deps | 23:34 |
| rZr | in pr1.3 ? | 23:34 |
| jesuschrist^ | yeah | 23:34 |
| rZr | well this need to be fixed ... no pr1.3 here | 23:34 |
| rZr | i have to check this but I fear obs is not upgraded yet | 23:34 |
| jesuschrist^ | and btw anyone has a screen package to pass ? | 23:34 |
| jesuschrist^ | the n900 one doesnt work | 23:35 |
| rZr | btw https://twitter.com/rzrfreefr/status/221340605878501377 | 23:35 |
| jesuschrist^ | they did that for webos too | 23:36 |
| jesuschrist^ | didnt work well, i have a touchpad | 23:36 |
| jesuschrist^ | at least it didnt work well YET | 23:36 |
| jonni | jesuschrist^: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan%3A/applications/harmattan/armel/screen_4.0.3-14_armel.deb | 23:37 |
| jesuschrist^ | i have that | 23:37 |
| jesuschrist^ | doesnt work | 23:37 |
| jonni | works for me :) | 23:38 |
| jonni | and Im running pr1.3 | 23:38 |
| jesuschrist^ | maybe you could help me | 23:38 |
| rZr | cd / && mkdir -p dev/pts/ # ToDo MAKEDEV | 23:38 |
| rZr | for t in $(seq 0 9 ) ; do mknod dev/pts/$t c 136 $t; done | 23:38 |
| jesuschrist^ | thanks rZr | 23:38 |
| jesuschrist^ | ill try it now :p | 23:38 |
| jesuschrist^ | mknod: dev/pts/0: File exists | 23:40 |
| jesuschrist^ | mknod: dev/pts/1: File exists | 23:41 |
| jesuschrist^ | ~ # screen | 23:41 |
| jesuschrist^ | Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/1' - please check. | 23:41 |
| jesuschrist^ | im not running inception | 23:43 |
| jesuschrist^ | jonni : how did you make it work ? | 23:43 |
| jesuschrist^ | oh found out, root cant | 23:46 |
| jesuschrist^ | run screen | 23:47 |
| rZr | yes | 23:49 |
| jesuschrist^ | rZr any planning on porting pptp in your repo ? | 23:50 |
| jonni | Im root and I can run screen just fine | 23:50 |
| jonni | depends what user/group you set to the device. | 23:50 |
| jesuschrist^ | did you enable root login jonni via ssh ? | 23:50 |
| jonni | jesuschrist^: yes I have that enabled too | 23:50 |
| jesuschrist^ | yeah that way would work | 23:50 |
| jesuschrist^ | but i login via the user "user" | 23:50 |
| jesuschrist^ | who is the actual terminal owner | 23:51 |
| rZr | jesuschrist^, it would requiere inception ? | 23:56 |
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| jesuschrist^ | mknod: dev/pts/2: Operation not permitted | 23:57 |
| jesuschrist^ | mknod: dev/pts/3: Operation not permitted | 23:57 |
| jesuschrist^ | to run what you pasted before :) | 23:57 |
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| rZr | if it works as user it's enough isnt it ? | 23:58 |
| jesuschrist^ | for me yes it is | 23:58 |
| jesuschrist^ | dude what are we talking about | 23:58 |
| jesuschrist^ | pptp ? | 23:58 |
| jesuschrist^ | i have no damn idea, i believe user priviliges would be fair enough | 23:59 |
| itsnotabigtruck | jesuschrist^: the mknod needs to be done with ariadne | 23:59 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (that's part of inception) | 23:59 |
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