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| ZogG_lap1op | jonni: n news on side too | 00:21 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | my side* | 00:21 |
| rzr | notices usual lay off @nok.hu | 00:23 |
| rzr | -s+d | 00:23 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | rzr: did you see link i sent? | 00:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | with meedav | 00:28 |
| rzr | shoot again | 00:35 |
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| rm_work | is it possible to add another button to the Meego Terminal shortcut bar? I don't need Ctrl there (I have a ctrl key on N950) but I need "Alt" | 00:42 |
| rm_work | and what i mean is, is it easily possible, like, on-the-go | 00:42 |
| rm_work | or would i have to recompile from source | 00:42 |
| rm_work | i am hoping there is just a config somewhere... | 00:43 |
| deram | those two layouts are in filesystem, and it looks like you could add your own layout there | 00:43 |
| rm_work | do you know where? | 00:44 |
| rzr | ZogG, tell me about meedav? | 00:44 |
| deram | can't remember the path though | 00:44 |
| rm_work | hrm | 00:44 |
| rm_work | i am not sure what exactly to google for here | 00:44 |
| deram | probably under /usr/share... I found them accidentally at some point | 00:44 |
| rm_work | kk found some xml files there :P looks promising | 00:47 |
| rm_work | thanks | 00:47 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | rzr: http://projects.developer.nokia.com/meedav | 00:47 |
| rm_work | /usr/share/meego-terminal/toolbars/ | 00:47 |
| rzr | ZogG, i think i built it once | 00:47 |
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| deram | ZogG_lap1op: yep, that was it.. | 00:49 |
| chem|st | just to do it right?! harmattan rootstraps are like 500MB each? | 00:53 |
| chem|st | I try to install harmattan targets to scratchbox but it seems weird as fremantle is only ~40MB each | 00:54 |
| ZogG_lap1op | rzr: deb on site | 00:54 |
| rzr | sources matters | 00:55 |
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| deram | btw, is there easy way to take meego-terminal sources and build and install another instance of it on phone? | 00:56 |
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| rzr | yes | 00:56 |
| rzr | there is mg-terminal already | 00:56 |
| deram | I'd quess I have to rename the project somehow.. | 00:56 |
| rzr | this is a fork | 00:56 |
| rzr | yes | 00:56 |
| rzr | need help on that one ? | 00:56 |
| deram | lots of files to rename.. | 00:57 |
| rzr | there is a such project | 00:57 |
| deram | ok. I'll qoogle for it | 00:57 |
| rzr | http://gitorious.org/~kimju/meego-terminal/mg-terminal | 00:57 |
| rzr | fork it | 00:57 |
| rzr | i'll rebuilt it as well :) | 00:58 |
| deram | nice.. thanx | 00:58 |
| kimju | that's old version with few patches | 00:58 |
| deram | what do you mean by old? | 00:59 |
| rzr | 2011 | 00:59 |
| kimju | you'll find the latest meego-terminal on gitorious too, just rename it so you can install it along with the official version | 00:59 |
| deram | hmm.. I think this renamed wont import nicely to eclipse sdk | 01:00 |
| deram | as there is still references of the original names at some places | 01:00 |
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| deram | but I have to try that one again at some point.. there is just couple of things I'd like to modify in terminal to make it more screen+irssi compatible | 01:03 |
| rzr | let me suggest to use bip and any irc client :) | 01:07 |
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| deram | bip? | 01:52 |
| rzr | http://bip.milkypond.org/ | 01:58 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | i don't know what vi__ means by "co-wrote"... | 03:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lots of other people did pre-release testing of inception, but inception itself is something i wrote alone | 03:36 |
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| Jiok | hi, I'm trying to inihibit the screen saver and I try mobility QSystemScreenSaver is this the way to go? because it works in PR1.2 even tought it shows some dbus errors but I'm not sure this works for previously firmwares | 03:40 |
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| Avengence | I'm going to take a guess and say tracker is going insane on me. messages are ending up in totally wrong places and after a reboot whole unrelated conversations are merged (i.e. a skype contact and a sms from some random number) | 12:01 |
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| Lava_Croft | deram: | 13:29 |
| Lava_Croft | There is an application called FingerTerm which is made specifically for irssi, screen and ssh | 13:29 |
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| Lava_Croft | it sports the best onscreen keyboard for any terminal emulator i ever saw | 13:29 |
| deram | Lava_Croft: seen it, not impressed | 13:29 |
| Lava_Croft | it comes rather close to the real thing | 13:30 |
| Lava_Croft | you probably wont find any better irc solution for the n9 | 13:30 |
| deram | that's true, but there was some things I didn't like | 13:30 |
| Lava_Croft | chances that you find an application without anything you dont like are rather slim:) | 13:30 |
| Lava_Croft | unless you make it! :) | 13:31 |
| deram | Lava_Croft: that's why I fork the meegoterminal when I have time for it | 13:31 |
| Lava_Croft | also, why would one need something like bip | 13:31 |
| Lava_Croft | irssi has built-in proxy | 13:31 |
| Lava_Croft | deram: i saw tmo thread about some customized meegoterm | 13:32 |
| deram | one being it didn't take command line option what to execute instead of the shell | 13:32 |
| Lava_Croft | the other thing being it doesnt let you run multiple instances of itself | 13:32 |
| deram | other being, it's closed source | 13:32 |
| Lava_Croft | :) | 13:32 |
| Lava_Croft | oh, that doesnt bother me | 13:33 |
| deram | me neither if it just works. | 13:33 |
| Lava_Croft | but meegoterm with a sane keyboard would be great | 13:33 |
| Lava_Croft | i bet meegoterm is also easier on the resources, but thats just a wild guess | 13:33 |
| deram | but if there are few things I miss, I'd rather fix them myself | 13:33 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah, thats the spirit:) | 13:34 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | ~listkey open | 13:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | ~listkeys open | 13:40 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'open' by key (14 of 200): #openmoko logs ;; beopen.com infodock ;; gnopengl3ds ;; iopener ;; larson's rule #1 of open source ;; open cascade ;; open jtag ;; open office ;; openal ;; openaltutorial ;; openclasses ;; openclassroom ;; opencola ;; opengl draws nothing if a line. | 13:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | ~listkeys kernel | 13:40 |
| infobot | Factoid search of 'kernel' by key (12 of 149): 2.4 kernel for potato ;; bootldr-c000-2.13.5-bigkernel ;; compiling the kernel ;; deb kernels ;; finger @zeus.kernel.org ;; i was able to build the kernel, so wheaties ;; improper kernel ;; install kernel ;; kernel api ;; kernel configurator ;; kernel help ;; kernel ide support. | 13:40 |
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| japh | uhm. how do one reboot a n950? | 13:52 |
| Lava_Croft | reboot -u from terminal? | 13:52 |
| japh | there's no shutdown, reboot or actual buttons :p | 13:52 |
| Lava_Croft | or keep power button pressed for 8s orso? | 13:52 |
| japh | there's no reboot | 13:52 |
| japh | there's no power button? or where it is? hah | 13:52 |
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| Lava_Croft | i have no idea | 13:52 |
| Lava_Croft | cant you reboot from terminal | 13:52 |
| Lava_Croft | im pretty sure you can | 13:52 |
| Lava_Croft | open a terminal, enter devel-su and password, and then reboot -u | 13:53 |
| japh | I have no 'reboot' and no 'shutdown' | 13:53 |
| japh | init might work | 13:53 |
| Lava_Croft | oh | 13:53 |
| Lava_Croft | init 6 is a reboot | 13:54 |
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| japh | init: not found | 13:54 |
| japh | what is this | 13:54 |
| japh | and I have the /*sbin in my $PATH | 13:55 |
| japh | do I really have to remove the battery | 13:55 |
| Lava_Croft | no | 13:55 |
| Lava_Croft | shouldnt have to | 13:55 |
| japh | I have never turned this phone on | 13:56 |
| japh | it was on when I got it lol | 13:56 |
| japh | success | 13:57 |
| japh | /sbin/poweroff | 13:57 |
| japh | ... | 13:57 |
| japh | now the only problem is how do I turn it on again | 13:57 |
| japh | yeah ok, that screen lock button acts as poweron button when the device is off. | 13:58 |
| japh | thank you | 13:58 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | japh: it acts as off button too - just hold it | 14:05 |
| ZogG_lap1op | japh: but there is restart option which you want right? | 14:06 |
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| japh | zogg_lap1op, yeah. I guess I could hack something up | 14:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | japh: the part of there is restart option is not a question | 14:07 |
| ZogG_lap1op | there are at least 2 free apps and i believe yoou can do it from console as well | 14:07 |
| japh | apps? | 14:07 |
| GOD | Am I still the only one who has noticed the Wifi HotSpot softy doesn't actually seem to use the encryption you set it to use? | 14:07 |
| japh | apps for restarting? | 14:07 |
| japh | rebooting* | 14:08 |
| ZogG_lap1op | japh: | 14:08 |
| ZogG_lap1op | http://my-meego.com/software/applications.php?fldAuto=678&faq=1 | 14:08 |
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| japh | zogg_lap1op, hehe, I thought you were joking | 14:09 |
| ZogG_lap1op | jonni: i got the mail | 14:09 |
| japh | I find it a bit ... strange ... there's none by default | 14:09 |
| ZogG_lap1op | japh: it's security thin i think they do not link /sbin on bash | 14:09 |
| ZogG_lap1op | no way to know if it's n9 or n950 | 14:11 |
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| jonni | ZogG_lap1op: lucky you, I still havent heard anything. | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | open video player is nice, now to wait for open media player | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | i want to be able to play icecast streams with mediaplayer, like on maemo5 | 14:25 |
| Lava_Croft | neutered harmattan player ticks me off | 14:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | jonni: it's n950 \o/ | 14:32 |
| jonni | heh, soon I'll have to start worrying if everyone else starts getting devices and they forget me :) | 14:33 |
| Lava_Croft | n950 is the biggest tease one could imagine for N900 lovers | 14:34 |
| Lava_Croft | its like the device you want but will never get | 14:34 |
| spenap | Lava_Croft: +1 | 14:34 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Lava_Croft: the pixel syndrom is scary though | 14:35 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and at some point devices wouldn't be changed anymore | 14:35 |
| Lava_Croft | both my n900's came with dead pixels | 14:35 |
| Lava_Croft | but not like the n950:) | 14:36 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Lava_Croft: i had usb syndrome =( | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | my first n900 just randomly died on me | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | but after 7 months orso, i got nokia to send me two replacements | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | silly nokia | 14:36 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Lava_Croft: the thing that as i understand all n950 screens have this and it's matter of time =( | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | those two both came with dead pixels | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | heh ZogG_lap1op | 14:36 |
| Lava_Croft | thats pretty awful | 14:36 |
| ZogG_lap1op | that's why i wanted n950 so bad but hopped i'll get n9 as more people wanted n950 | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | i got n9, but so far its just one big being pissed off experience | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | since the camera is broken in software | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | and i just feel sad holding a dead child | 14:37 |
| Lava_Croft | n9 was, like for many other people, my dream | 14:38 |
| Lava_Croft | holding it just makes me sad | 14:38 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i usee n9 as phone daily and it works fine | 14:42 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Lava_Croft: n950 is the same minus nfc and cheaper screen, though + keyboard =) | 14:44 |
| arcean | for me n950 screen is much better :P | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | ZogG_lap1op: for me its all about hardware keyboard | 14:44 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Lava_Croft: check the n955 thread than | 14:44 |
| Lava_Croft | i saw the 'hacked' n9's | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | i just carry around n900 again | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | the internet is still not ruined enough to be unusable on the n900, thank heavens! | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | i hope pr1.3 for harmattan still arrives :) | 14:45 |
| Lava_Croft | emphasis on hope | 14:45 |
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| Kozzi | in my class there was one guy with N950 and it sure felt nice to held it in hand and open the keyboard | 14:51 |
| Kozzi | but if it was mine I wouldn't think I could take much advance of it, well perhaps I would ssh+irssi more on the phone | 14:52 |
| jonni | and in N9 you can always use ssh+irssi+fingerterm (as that combo has transparent vkb). | 14:55 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah, that solution works pretty well | 14:56 |
| Kozzi | ~log | 14:58 |
| infobot | All conversations are logged to http://infobot.rikers.org/%23harmattan/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. | 14:58 |
| Kozzi | ZogG_lap1op: the AnimatedImage doesn't work in the gallery | 14:59 |
| Kozzi | I mean Image preview and comments | 15:00 |
| Kozzi | gif pictures are static | 15:00 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Kozzi: i'll check, i 'm late now. i think i changed it but apperantly i may got back the old code when i played with OBS to push it to apps4meego | 15:07 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Kozzi: but i solved that problem, i'll re-read the thread on TMO as i explained there what was the problem i think | 15:08 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Kozzi: same bug with feed app btw | 15:08 |
| Kozzi | ok :) | 15:09 |
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| ladoga | rZr: i notice that both yle-dl and pstree packages in your repo are listed as version 0.0.0-0, any reason for that? | 19:56 |
| ladoga | i thought i had correct version numbers in the changelog | 19:57 |
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| rzr | ladoga, hi | 20:03 |
| rzr | did that to ensure i wont overlap upstream version | 20:04 |
| rzr | ladoga, http://rzr.online.fr/q/snapshot | 20:04 |
| ladoga | ok, thanks | 20:04 |
| rzr | ladoga, ask me to rebuild it anytime | 20:05 |
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| ladoga | btw. what does the last digits after - mean in version numbering? package revision? | 20:10 |
| rzr | package version | 20:10 |
| rzr | for packager | 20:10 |
| rzr | 1st is upstream version | 20:10 |
| ladoga | yes | 20:11 |
| ladoga | thanks | 20:11 |
| rzr | you welcome | 20:11 |
| rzr | next job is appformeego | 20:11 |
| ladoga | so if one updates the package while upstream version stays the same the last digit has to be incŕesed in order to give it priority over smaller digit in update | 20:12 |
| rzr | that's it | 20:15 |
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| ladoga | do you know how to enable audio mixing in harmattan or why it's disabled? | 20:26 |
| ladoga | software mixing | 20:26 |
| rzr | in qt ? | 20:27 |
| ladoga | just in general | 20:27 |
| ladoga | i noticed when playing music on the phone and running a game (sounds on music off) that both wouldn't work at the same time | 20:28 |
| jonni | you can use alsamixer from commandline :) | 20:28 |
| ladoga | so software mixing can be enabled though asoundrc? | 20:29 |
| ladoga | through* | 20:29 |
| ladoga | alsamixer lets you only adjust volume and other settings | 20:30 |
| ladoga | what i mean is playing audio from several sources simultaneously | 20:30 |
| ladoga | for example choosing music with some music player and then playing a game and hearing both | 20:31 |
| ladoga | not that it's that important for me | 20:32 |
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| jonni | most likely game and music player does it on purpose, so you wouldnt be able to override that, as usually it just causes a mess. | 20:37 |
| ladoga | yes, you're right | 20:38 |
| ladoga | tested with another combination and sw mixing works | 20:38 |
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| ladoga | it's the default music player that does that | 20:39 |
| ladoga | fe. with mplayer and the same game (pinball fantasies) it works | 20:40 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | ladoga: jonni it's not alsa | 20:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it's pulse audio purpose | 20:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | but i think harmattan has it but it is not cofiged for that | 20:51 |
| ZogG_lap1op | as alsa can't change music per app | 20:51 |
| ZogG_lap1op | though pulseaudio can | 20:51 |
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| rzr | https://twitter.com/Hdrules/status/218337322381475840 | 21:00 |
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| rzr | ladoga, | 21:01 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | rzr: afaik as i hate pulse audio it can do it | 21:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i think | 21:06 |
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| * ladoga hates PA also | 21:48 | |
| ladoga | but i guess it works for some | 21:49 |
| ladoga | on desktop/laptop I've had always everything working good with alsa | 21:50 |
| ladoga | and hw mixing capable cards | 21:51 |
| ladoga | so PA just seemed overly complex tool for need that i didn't have | 21:52 |
| ladoga | and i don't care for equalizers either | 21:56 |
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| ladoga | sounds is always matter of taste, but i'd rather invest into better headphones/amp | 22:01 |
| ladoga | if something sounds flat | 22:02 |
| ladoga | my N9 does not. :) | 22:03 |
| ladoga | DT-880's and good amp takes care of that | 22:05 |
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