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| HtheB | does anyone know if I can flash my device without removing anything that is already in the device? | 00:42 |
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| jonni | HtheB: no you cant. You can use flasher to append stuff, but only if you have R&D certificate. | 00:44 |
| HtheB | just flash rootfs shouldnt that do the job? | 00:45 |
| HtheB | flasher-3.5 -F <FIASCO image> -u | 00:45 |
| jonni | that wipes refhashlist, ie all your apps are invalidated. | 00:45 |
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| jonni | and if you dont have R&D cert, anyways if you flash only parts, it triggers open mode, only way to avoid it is R&D cert. | 00:46 |
| HtheB | already have open mode :p | 00:46 |
| jonni | well then the question is what data you want to save? if you only need to save emmc content, then its safe to flash rootfs image. | 00:47 |
| HtheB | yes, although actually | 00:48 |
| HtheB | there were some pictures within /user/private ¬_¬ | 00:48 |
| jonni | or you can just make backup using rsync, and flash and restore. | 00:48 |
| HtheB | device doesnt turn on anymore :P | 00:49 |
| HtheB | stays on the Nokia logo | 00:49 |
| HtheB | the damn device autoremoved everything | 00:49 |
| HtheB | since I've updated to the N9 repositories | 00:49 |
| HtheB | (using N950) | 00:49 |
| HtheB | I did manually install the packages, but it still somehow autoremoved it everything | 00:49 |
| HtheB | it wiped litterly everything from the device, lol | 00:49 |
| HtheB | so ended up with an unbootable device now | 00:50 |
| jonni | ah, so you didnt fully followed n9 tweak that removes that autoremove feature :) | 00:50 |
| HtheB | exactly | 00:50 |
| HtheB | :D | 00:50 |
| HtheB | the thing from yesterday | 00:50 |
| HtheB | should have listened to you ¬_¬ | 00:50 |
| HtheB | but I did try it out last night to autoremove anything, but it didn't remove anything.. so I dont know what happened now O_o | 00:51 |
| HtheB | I just figured out that the harmattan flasher doesnt have the -u option? | 00:51 |
| jonni | as you are already openmode, you can use malf rescue wiki instructions to backup your data | 00:51 |
| jonni | ie. mount the device in linux and tar the stuff as backup, and then reflash. | 00:52 |
| jonni | -u option was never the right one, you can say --flash-only=rootfs, but if you have pics in /user/private, then you 1st need to use malf instructions to backup date, before flashing rootfs, as it will nuke your private dir | 00:53 |
| HtheB | got a link for me? | 00:53 |
| jonni | http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state | 00:54 |
| HtheB | thanks! | 00:54 |
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| jonni | basicly follow untill 7, and mount the partitions that you want and backup your data. and then reflash the device | 00:55 |
| HtheB | ill be rebooting now | 00:55 |
| HtheB | into linux | 00:55 |
| HtheB | brb :D | 00:55 |
| HtheB | (you made my day already! _ | 00:56 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: tell me more about R&D certificate? | 01:00 |
| jonni | unfortunately the topic in this channel limits in going into details about that. | 01:12 |
| jonni | makes internal development so much easier, is the short answer. | 01:13 |
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| HtheB | jonni: | 01:14 |
| HtheB | Couldnt get it to work :( | 01:14 |
| jonni | at which step you got stuck? | 01:15 |
| HtheB | 5 | 01:15 |
| HtheB | it flashed everything right on step 2 | 01:15 |
| HtheB | (step 3) | 01:15 |
| HtheB | It doesnt show any new device :/ | 01:16 |
| jonni | and flasher command said successfull? | 01:16 |
| HtheB | yes | 01:16 |
| HtheB | Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_3.2012.02-6_PR_RM680 Sending kernel image (2497 kB)... 100% (2497 of 2497 kB, avg. 3206 kB/s) Sending initfs image (1920 kB)... 100% (1920 of 1920 kB, avg. 1026 kB/s) Success | 01:16 |
| jonni | hmm, and linux dmesg didnt show any device appearing? | 01:16 |
| HtheB | no | 01:17 |
| jonni | and hopefully you have native linux and not virtualbox. | 01:17 |
| HtheB | heh | 01:17 |
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| HtheB | I should try that out -_- | 01:17 |
| HtheB | couldnt find my live cd | 01:17 |
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| HtheB | ok, im going to search for the cd -_- | 01:18 |
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| jonni | yeah that slows things down a bit, since usually that malf wiki only works on native ones, as vmware and virtualbox has troubles detecting the device mode. | 01:19 |
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| jonni | or your lucky if you manage to map the new usbdevice to virtual side :) | 01:19 |
| HtheB | found a live cd :) | 01:20 |
| HtheB | time to boot into ubuntu natively | 01:20 |
| HtheB | hope this one will help | 01:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: you mean no nda? | 01:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | we can talk #n9 =) | 01:40 |
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| rzr | hi thp may u have a couple of minute to help on ovi symbian ? | 01:58 |
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| HtheB | jonni, you still there by any chance? | 02:53 |
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| ZogG_laptop | gri: i didn't seen you talking here for a while | 03:47 |
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| trip0 | why can't i ever go online with my google accounts? | 04:12 |
| beford | happened to me | 04:14 |
| beford | had to remove account and read | 04:14 |
| beford | readd* | 04:14 |
| trip0 | hmm | 04:15 |
| trip0 | i'll try to remove and readd | 04:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | and if mail never syncs and re-add and reboots never help? | 04:17 |
| trip0 | works after readd | 04:18 |
| trip0 | didn't try a reboot | 04:19 |
| beford | I tried reboot for me | 04:19 |
| beford | did not work | 04:19 |
| beford | tried setting the status several times, so just removing and adding them again worked. | 04:20 |
| beford | shouldn't be the right way | 04:20 |
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| gri | ZogG_laptop: Yep, busy times - and summer. When it's getting colder, I will be more around here :) | 10:16 |
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| sledges | hello; if I wanted to enhance the Nokia's Facebook App, where do I start? | 13:30 |
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| petteri | start from scratch, it is closed source | 13:31 |
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| koe | hey scratchbox users, maybe someone got this error too? "gzip: unrecognized option --rsyncable" and the "tar: cannot write: broken pipe" | 13:52 |
| koe | it appears everytime i try to build any packahe | 13:52 |
| koe | so as i understand, gzip doesn't provide this --rsyncable option, but i cannot upgrade it or anything | 13:54 |
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| sledges | has anyone ever had any luck with writing to sourcecode.request@nokia.com ? | 14:00 |
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| petteri | there is iso image somewhere | 14:59 |
| petteri | from the CD that nokia sent or something | 15:00 |
| petteri | maybe it was this: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2-2/SDK_Sources_PR1.2.ISO | 15:01 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | gri: missed you, my app in ovi and apps4meego =P | 18:16 |
| chem|st | anyone up for porting columbus to harmattan? IIRC its qt4 already | 18:23 |
| chem|st | or help with qml for fuelpad? | 18:23 |
| djszapi|stuff | for free ? | 18:24 |
| chem|st | for the sake of harmattan? | 18:24 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: i might look into fuelpad, but i'm noobie, give me sources and screenshots | 18:25 |
| chem|st | columbus navigation toolkit is exporting GPS to various streams | 18:25 |
| djszapi|stuff | well, I do not have time for free. | 18:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: but i'm noobie and it might take time | 18:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: gpl ? | 18:25 |
| chem|st | ZogG_lap1op: for fuelpad you need to talk to the devel as the harmattan one is a total rewrite | 18:25 |
| chem|st | he asked for help | 18:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: and rewrit is bad? or it need rewrite | 18:26 |
| chem|st | no idea he needs help with qml | 18:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: who is it? tell him to put it in harmattan repo on github | 18:26 |
| chem|st | he said lmc if I find you the tmo link | 18:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: TMO right now is bad idea | 18:27 |
| chem|st | ~seen alterego | 18:27 |
| infobot | alterego is currently on #harmattan. Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 2d 5h 36m 45s, last said: 'If I had millions I'd do it ..'. | 18:27 |
| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: he left you an answer =) | 18:27 |
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| chem|st | I see | 18:28 |
| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: but harmattan repo on github is good idea as it also may interest more people there | 18:28 |
| djszapi|stuff | it depends on a lot on the project | 18:28 |
| djszapi|stuff | for kde projects, github is a total no go. | 18:29 |
| chem|st | ZogG_lap1op: was on another topic | 18:29 |
| djszapi|stuff | depends a lot* | 18:29 |
| chem|st | alterego: you could promote columbus to extras | 18:29 |
| ZogG_lap1op | djszapi|stuff: i think the gitorious part for harmattan is more for more exp and those who has less time | 18:29 |
| chem|st | alterego: I'd like to see it in harmattan as well, what is left needed for it? | 18:29 |
| ZogG_lap1op | colombus had a very nice UI | 18:30 |
| djszapi|stuff | ZogG_lap1op: well, github and gitorious suck in general. | 18:30 |
| chem|st | ZogG_lap1op: has, and is a missing essential in terms of plugins in harmattan | 18:30 |
| chem|st | ZogG_lap1op: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=25157&page=5&highlight=fuelpad | 18:31 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | chem|st: i didn't get the plugins you talk about | 18:39 |
| ZogG_lap1op | or we are thinking about different plugins | 18:39 |
| ZogG_lap1op | is he talking about UI one for qml? | 18:39 |
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| chem|st | ZogG_lap1op: not sharing, it is export of gps to telnet and stuff | 19:57 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | i just know how to transport info from Qt by emiting signls and recieve data in qml. i think there is also qml component for gps | 19:59 |
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| AlphaX2 | Hi people | 21:41 |
| AlphaX2 | :) | 21:41 |
| AlphaX2 | A little question: how can I check if N9 is in 2G or 3G Mode? | 21:42 |
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| jonni | look the icon on the top bar? :) | 21:49 |
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| AlphaX2 | jonni: ahhahahah okay thats right, but I mean with Qt | 21:54 |
| AlphaX2 | so how can I ask it with my code | 21:54 |
| AlphaX2 | ^^ | 21:54 |
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| AlphaX2 | QtMobility will not help because there you can check which connection is online, Wlan or Data but not the exact one | 21:55 |
| jonni | AlphaX2: ah, you can use QSystemNetworkInfo to check it. | 21:57 |
| AlphaX2 | It's exactly what I tried... | 21:57 |
| AlphaX2 | 2G is GSM ? | 21:58 |
| jonni | AlphaX2: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qtmobility/qsystemnetworkinfo.html | 21:58 |
| AlphaX2 | and 3G WCdma | 21:58 |
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| AlphaX2 | Okay got it | 22:00 |
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| AlphaX2 | was trying in the moment I ask | 22:00 |
| AlphaX2 | 2G is Gsm, 3G is Wcdma if anyone needs this feature also! ;) | 22:00 |
| AlphaX2 | thanks jonni | 22:00 |
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| leszek | hi | 22:11 |
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| leszek | where to get the qmlviewer package for the n9 ? | 22:12 |
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| jonni | leszek: you can just use qt sdk and make helloworld app, it will generate you the viewer. | 22:36 |
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| leszek | jonni: thx | 22:46 |
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| leszek | jonni: its not working | 23:01 |
| leszek | it only creates a qmlviewer.o file | 23:01 |
| f15h | hello, I wrote my first Harmattan application for my N9: searching the schedule of the West-Swedish VastTrafik public transport system | 23:01 |
| f15h | https://gitorious.org/meevatr/meevatr | 23:02 |
| f15h | anyone interested in having a look at it and giving me some comments/feedback? | 23:02 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | trx: is paid app and one in apps4meego same version? | 23:02 |
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| leszek | lol kde crashed the xserver xD. So no qmlviewer for harmattan then ? So I am supposed to create a new qtcreator project & compile it everytime I want to test out a qml file on the device (n9) ? | 23:12 |
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| petteri | not that hard actually | 23:12 |
| leszek | that's ridiculous | 23:13 |
| petteri | you could also probably just edit the qml files at device | 23:13 |
| petteri | they will be in /opt/project_name/qml/ | 23:13 |
| petteri | but at least for me it just easier deploy from the qtcreator | 23:14 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i deploy too | 23:15 |
| leszek | sry I don't get it | 23:15 |
| petteri | what part? | 23:16 |
| leszek | I just compiled my qml file now I have a binary in a folder | 23:16 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: you can as well ssh and edit aml on phone from computer | 23:16 |
| leszek | when I copy that to my n9 how can I execute it ? ./demo just does say no permission no matter if I have +x set | 23:16 |
| petteri | leszek: you need to deploy it from the qmlcreator, it will create .deb package and install it to the device | 23:17 |
| petteri | then you can edit the files if you wish | 23:17 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: do you use qtcreator? | 23:18 |
| leszek | ZogG_lap1op: yes | 23:18 |
| leszek | petteri: no way. Then I also need to connect my n9 to my pc for this xD | 23:19 |
| petteri | heheh, there is the easy way and then there is the... | 23:20 |
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| leszek | damn, much more complicated then on the n900 xD | 23:21 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: do you have wifi? | 23:23 |
| leszek | yes | 23:23 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: you can use incption but it way not kosher way | 23:23 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: i deploy over wifi | 23:23 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: i'm glad to explain you if you make screenshots of your movies and write howto =))) | 23:24 |
| ZogG_lap1op | let's help each other | 23:24 |
| leszek | ZogG_lap1op: hmm... | 23:24 |
| leszek | I think I will just write a short little python script xD. that is a lot easier and faster xD | 23:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: i'll tell you every step you do it and write down with screenshot =) | 23:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: once you config it would deploy any project in qt in matter of seconds and start app on n9 automagicaly and make deb file you can share with anyone =) | 23:25 |
| ZogG_lap1op | leszek: Tools-> options-> linux device -> add -> fremantle/harmattan/meego-> enter ip. than on device enable developer mode, it would install sdk in sdk -> wlan — chek ip and password, than enter it in qtcreator and press deploy keys =) | 23:28 |
| leszek | ZogG_lap1op: yeah but this is not my point. I just want to test a simple qml file on a differnet resolution and I don't want a ready to ship application | 23:28 |
| leszek | btw. the qmlviewer.py is already finished :) | 23:30 |
| leszek | but thanks for your help anyway | 23:30 |
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| leszek | might also be useful is someone else is asking for qmlviewer on n9, here is the script: http://paste.kde.org/508418/ | 23:33 |
| leszek | *if | 23:33 |
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| trx | ZogG_lap1op yes | 23:41 |
| ZogG_lap1op | trx: good idea | 23:42 |
| ZogG_lap1op | trx: btw i didn't find the way to hide keyboard | 23:42 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and i would review things i paid attention to | 23:42 |
| trx | its "paid" in store as thats my only way of creating donation system | 23:42 |
| ZogG_lap1op | trx: i'm thinking the same way, but my app is not ready to be paid yet =\ | 23:43 |
| trx | you hide it by clicking again on the "pen" button and taping on the editor | 23:43 |
| trx | or just swipe down the keyborad | 23:44 |
| trx | keyboard* | 23:44 |
| trx | also people seem to forget about the proximity sensor | 23:44 |
| trx | which activates the selection mode | 23:44 |
| trx | ZogG_lap1op what are you coding? | 23:47 |
| ZogG_lap1op | trx: nothing serious — imgrup and thinking to make tumblr app, i even had half working with open authorization | 23:48 |
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| piggz | Venemo_N9: lo...did you get sorted with an mfe account? | 23:49 |
| Venemo_N9 | piggz, I decided not to care about hotmail | 23:50 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'm now using hotmail with pop3 (it doesn't support imap...) | 23:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | and I'm syncing my contacts to my nokia account | 23:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | for the time being, this's okay :) | 23:52 |
| piggz | pop3, quaint | 23:52 |
| Venemo_N9 | it's crap anyway | 23:52 |
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