| Kozzi | man this is awesome, first with xbmcremote I don't even have to move away from sofa | 00:00 |
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| Kozzi | with this I don't even have to touch av and tv remotes | 00:00 |
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| HtheB | anyone already tried out fremantle for harmattan? | 00:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | while to reciver i connected ps3/cable tv/comp | 00:04 |
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| pa | whats fremantle for harmattan? | 00:04 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: there is vlc remote and other remotes, i want to write at some point xmms2 remote and check if there is option to make mplayer remote | 00:06 |
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| Kozzi | write a samsung tv remote | 00:07 |
| AlphaX2 | pa: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84987 | 00:07 |
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| HtheB | pa: this talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1224857#post1224857 | 00:07 |
| beford | nice | 00:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: if there api it's doable | 00:07 |
| HtheB | thnx AlphaX2 | 00:07 |
| Kozzi | http://www.gemote.org/ | 00:07 |
| beford | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22258558.jpg nice too | 00:07 |
| beford | xD | 00:07 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: it is supported by N9 already | 00:08 |
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| Kozzi | yeah just noticed it too | 00:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: it wasn't there before | 00:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | i just wrote it and released there =P | 00:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | ☺ | 00:09 |
| Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: lol, good job. Now you can continue with LG tvs | 00:10 |
| Kozzi | someone got ios apps running on blackberry | 00:12 |
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| Kozzi | and seems like HtheB has already contacted this guy | 00:13 |
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| pa | ah | 00:14 |
| HtheB | yes.... | 00:14 |
| pa | to run n900 apps | 00:14 |
| HtheB | pa, also yes :D | 00:15 |
| beford | nice did he say anything? | 00:15 |
| Kozzi | quote: he also has a n900 | 00:15 |
| HtheB | kozzi: no he doesnt | 00:16 |
| HtheB | beford: i copy pasted his short reply | 00:16 |
| HtheB | i replied back... so, lets wait once again to see if he will jump onboard | 00:16 |
| Kozzi | oh sorry; "he is familiar with n900" not own one | 00:17 |
| ezzy | ZogG_laptop, Seems like it would be really hard to mess up a flash.. | 00:18 |
| Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: http://www.samsungdforum.com/upload_files/files/guide/data/html/html_3/api_reference/javascript_apis/interactive_remote_api/interactive_remote_api.html | 00:19 |
| Kozzi | the one by Gemote doesn't support mousepad :) | 00:19 |
| ezzy | ZogG_laptop, The LED on my phone is active. When I press the power button it lights up while I still hold it it turns off, usually it vibrates at this point I think but it is not. | 00:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | ezzy: on power now? try to unconnect cables | 00:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | ezzy: or try to reflash with nokia software updater from windows | 00:23 |
| ezzy | ZogG_laptop, what cables? | 00:25 |
| HtheB | bbl | 00:28 |
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| Kozzi | perhaps usb-cable | 00:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeap | 00:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | sometimes after my batery dies and i connect to charge i cant turn on till i disconect and turn on and than re-connect | 00:29 |
| ezzy | ZogG_laptop, well of course I've tried it without usb | 00:30 |
| ezzy | ZogG_laptop, there is not some diagnostic tool or something? >< | 00:30 |
| ezzy | ZogG_laptop, I have never experienced that with my N9 myself. | 00:31 |
| ezzy | When plugged in the LED does the normal flashing as if it where charging =\ | 00:33 |
| ezzy | and comes up as Nokia Mobile Phones via lsusb | 00:33 |
| Sniper_swe | mine gets impossible to start after empty battery. always need to boot into nitdroid then let it load for a while then boot harmattan. | 00:34 |
| ezzy | Sniper_swe, nitdroid? | 00:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | ezzy: have no idea, last time i flashed was when i had n900 =( | 00:36 |
| ezzy | googling.. | 00:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | chekc the forum | 00:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | i bet the problem existed already | 00:37 |
| Sniper_swe | nitdroid: android port for n9 n950 and n900 | 00:39 |
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| Sniper_swe | ezzy, | 00:40 |
| Sniper_swe | http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php | 00:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | ezzy: do not try nitdroid now, try to fix it first =) | 00:41 |
| Sniper_swe | yeah then brick it again;p | 00:43 |
| Sniper_swe | its good to have experience with flasher before nitdroid installation:) | 00:44 |
| ezzy | What is there to learn abotu flasher.. | 00:47 |
| ezzy | it is pretty self explanatory :p | 00:48 |
| ezzy | doesn't the phone show a battery on screen when charging? | 00:53 |
| ezzy | if working correctly | 00:53 |
| ezzy | when powered off of course. | 00:54 |
| Kozzi | yup | 00:56 |
| Sniper_swe | my n9 always autostart with charger connected. ofcourse if i power if with charger it dosnt reboot by it self. | 00:56 |
| ezzy | Mine doesn't do that autostart thing ><. | 00:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | ezzy: nope it doesn't show afaik | 00:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i think led is blinking | 00:58 |
| Sniper_swe | ok. autostart is a pita when battery is dead:p thats why i need to boot nitdroid to get it to charge. if i try to boot harmattan it just reboots. | 00:58 |
| ezzy | hmm | 00:58 |
| Sniper_swe | yep led blinks | 00:58 |
| ezzy | could you try removing your sim card tray and try booting? | 00:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | ezzy: i did remove it while phone was one once and moved back. is your out?? | 00:59 |
| Sniper_swe | phone is fully charged so everything works now:p sim or no sim | 00:59 |
| ezzy | ZogG_laptop, no I am just looking for possible issues | 01:00 |
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| Sniper_swe | are your battery charged? otherwise charge with flasher | 01:02 |
| ezzy | hmm? | 01:05 |
| ezzy | It is at ~80% | 01:05 |
| Sniper_swe | okay. | 01:05 |
| Sniper_swe | flash rootfs. that way you will keep everything but apps. | 01:06 |
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| ezzy | Sniper_swe, does that require a special image? | 01:16 |
| Sniper_swe | no rootfs is the main .bin . i mean dint flash emmc image that will erase everything. | 01:19 |
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| ezzy | Sniper_swe, so flasher -r bin? | 01:21 |
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| ezzy | that tells me bad rootfs format in | 01:21 |
| ezzy | the fin file | 01:21 |
| ezzy | bimn | 01:21 |
| Sniper_swe | flasher -f -F main.bin | 01:22 |
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| ezzy | that does everything | 01:23 |
| ezzy | ? | 01:23 |
| ezzy | Sniper_swe, I've done flasher -f -F 2-3 times it has had no effect. | 01:23 |
| Sniper_swe | download fireware from navifarm. replace main with the name of your firemware | 01:23 |
| ezzy | of course... | 01:24 |
| Sniper_swe | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 | 01:24 |
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| ezzy | ... | 01:24 |
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| ezzy | I got the firmware from navifirm.. | 01:24 |
| Sniper_swe | paste flasher output | 01:25 |
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| ezzy | http://gentoo.pastebin.ca/2163369 | 01:28 |
| Sniper_swe | seems right. still no boot? | 01:29 |
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| ezzy | no boot | 01:31 |
| Sniper_swe | strange. what did you do to break it?:p | 01:32 |
| ezzy | Nothing just won't boot | 01:32 |
| ezzy | I've only dropped it once and it was like a 2 foot fall to wood. | 01:33 |
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| ezzy | Had this thing for 8 months now \; | 01:34 |
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| Sniper_swe | i dropped mine 25times from higher so i dont think its the problem:p just died suddenly then wont boot? | 01:34 |
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| Sniper_swe | no new app or hack? | 01:35 |
| ezzy | nope I ended a call and it stopped working | 01:38 |
| Sniper_swe | sounds really strange. warrant? | 01:38 |
| Sniper_swe | warranty?* | 01:38 |
| ezzy | sending it to singapore is going to suck `.~ | 01:38 |
| ezzy | won't get my phone back for about a month | 01:39 |
| ezzy | sigh | 01:39 |
| Sniper_swe | try full flash first with emmc and all | 01:39 |
| Sniper_swe | flasher -f -F main.bin | 01:39 |
| ezzy | That is what I've been doing? | 01:39 |
| Sniper_swe | no you flashed firmware. full flash is firemware and emmc. you will need emmc image from navifarm to | 01:40 |
| Sniper_swe | you will loose all data. but you probably will if you send to nokia care anyway. | 01:41 |
| ezzy | Sniper_swe, thats true. | 01:42 |
| jonni | most likley your booting problems end when you flash emmc image, or if that doesnt help then erase-user-data=secure should help. But my bet is that your emmc is missing/corrupted, so it doesnt boot. | 01:42 |
| Sniper_swe | i bricked mine a while back and only formware did not work. but with full flash it worked | 01:43 |
| ezzy | Sniper_swe, I really_really_ hope this works :P | 01:43 |
| Sniper_swe | hope so to:) | 01:43 |
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| Sniper_swe | let us know:) | 01:45 |
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| ezzy | what would the emmc bin look like? | 01:48 |
| ezzy | I am not seeing an emmc bin in navifirm | 01:51 |
| Sniper_swe | its like 2 gb and at the same place as your fware | 01:52 |
| ezzy | hmm I an not seeing that in navifirm | 01:57 |
| ajalkane | ~/quit | 01:57 |
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| ajalkane | uh... | 01:57 |
| ajalkane | new try | 01:57 |
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| Sniper_swe | thats strange. file is named like dfl61blablablaemmc.bin i think | 02:09 |
| jonni | it doesnt show on default server, you need to switch the server in order to see the emmc images | 02:10 |
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| jonni | (switch from production to care suit) | 02:13 |
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| Sniper_swe | must be new? i never had a problem finding it:) | 02:14 |
| jonni | depends on what navifirm version one is using | 02:15 |
| jonni | or navifirmex version | 02:15 |
| Sniper_swe | 1.7+ here i yhink | 02:15 |
| jonni | atleast navifirmex defaults to production server which doesnt have emmc images, and care suit server is behind menu option. | 02:16 |
| Sniper_swe | okay. good to know | 02:17 |
| ezzy | jonni, yea I am trying to get newer one to work :p | 02:23 |
| ezzy | jonni, I've been on 0.1 haha | 02:23 |
| ezzy | since the good old days :D | 02:23 |
| jonni | -ex version also works in Linux with wine. | 02:23 |
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| ezzy | -ex? | 02:25 |
| ezzy | looking on the navifirm wiki atm | 02:26 |
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| ezzy | flashing the mmc didn't work >:( | 03:18 |
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| ezzy | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/be43ce6f/ | 04:19 |
| ezzy | Still cannot get the phone to boot :( | 04:19 |
| ezzy | Looks like ncc for me... | 04:19 |
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| ezzy | Is there a low level mode that allows me to get to a command prompt without a full boot? | 08:00 |
| dm8tbr | ezzy: there is an kernel+initrd that does something like that. but what do you expect from that? | 08:12 |
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| jonni | ezzy: if you do sudo flasher -R what happens? or 30seconds powerbutton (untill vibra shakes) | 09:19 |
| ezzy | jonni, I never get a vibrations | 09:24 |
| ezzy | dm8tbr, I am hoping to maybe see why my phone won't post or boot. | 09:24 |
| jonni | then maybe you havent pressed the powerbutton long enough? | 09:24 |
| jonni | what happens during boot? | 09:24 |
| ezzy | jonni, nothing =\ | 09:25 |
| ezzy | sec holding down power | 09:25 |
| ezzy | still holding nothing. | 09:26 |
| jonni | so if you do "sudo flasher -R" connect the usb cable and press powerbutton 30 seconds, it doesnt vibrate and start to boot? | 09:26 |
| ezzy | jonni, I'll give that a shot | 09:26 |
| ezzy | jonni, why does flasher need root? | 09:27 |
| jonni | becuase normal users cannot open usb ports | 09:27 |
| japh | sniper_swe, yeah, the fact that it won't charge the battery if the os can't boot is... one of the most retarded design choices I've encountered | 09:27 |
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| ezzy | jonni, someone is not in the usb group :P | 09:28 |
| ezzy | jonni, what distro do you use? | 09:28 |
| jonni | ubuntu | 09:28 |
| ezzy | Silly ubuntu hehe | 09:28 |
| japh | I thought such groups were rendered meaningless with this consolekit business | 09:28 |
| jonni | and if that doesnt help you can still try "sudo flasher --set-rd-flags=force-power-key -R" | 09:29 |
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| jonni | (that command overrides bootreason if you happen to default ACT_DEAD mode) | 09:30 |
| ezzy | Thanks I'll give it a try! :D | 09:30 |
| ezzy | jonni, there is an act dead mode lol? | 09:32 |
| jonni | yes running "init 5" as root inside N9 switches device to ACT_DEAD mode. | 09:33 |
| ezzy | led is spazzing out | 09:35 |
| ezzy | after running flasher --set-rd-flags=force-power-key -R the phones red led on the back turned on | 09:36 |
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| jonni | yep as it its then on rd modem you can use --disable-rd-mode to get back to normal mode and red switches off | 09:38 |
| jonni | s/modem/mode/ | 09:38 |
| infobot | jonni meant: yep as it its then on rd mode you can use --disable-rd-mode to get back to normal mode and red switches off | 09:38 |
| japh | s/(\w+).+/$1/ | 09:39 |
| japh | :( | 09:39 |
| ezzy | =( | 09:39 |
| ezzy | jonni, is the phoen supposed to be displaying something? | 09:39 |
| ezzy | phone* | 09:39 |
| jonni | but if it doesnt boot, then next step is nokia care, as in there they should be able to look the bootlogs. | 09:39 |
| jonni | your flashing paste looked ok. So most likely then its hw fault, or missing certificates. | 09:40 |
| jonni | although normal users shouldnt be able to corrupt the certs, unless they use phoenix or some other 3rd party apps. | 09:43 |
| ezzy | jonni, phoenix? | 09:43 |
| ezzy | service software hmm? | 09:44 |
| jonni | if you dont know what that is then its a good thing. That way you have only used flasher command to mess with your device. | 09:44 |
| ezzy | jonni, so while the leds where blinking I should have seen something displaying? | 09:44 |
| jonni | nope it shouldnt have, it only blinks on activity, like when loading files from flash etc | 09:45 |
| jonni | or maybe your display is just broken if it stays black all the time? | 09:46 |
| ezzy | jonni, it does stay black | 09:46 |
| ezzy | jonni, but I don't get any vibrations too | 09:46 |
| jonni | or display connector cable has gotten loose on some drop or something. | 09:47 |
| jonni | anyways remote quessing doesnt help that much, better to take to nokia care if you run out of normal options. | 09:48 |
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| ezzy | with --disable-rd-move it still says The device is now in production mode | 09:49 |
| ezzy | err | 09:49 |
| ezzy | nvm | 09:49 |
| ezzy | thats correct | 09:49 |
| jonni | ;) | 09:49 |
| ezzy | jonni, yea still can't get it to boot I am in the states now :| | 09:50 |
| ezzy | phoneless for a monthish should be cool. Thanks a lot jonni. | 09:52 |
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| ezzy | hmm that sounded as if I think you caused the issues which is not the case :P. | 09:53 |
| japh | heh | 09:53 |
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| gabriel9|work | morning | 10:34 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | japh: (the fact that it won't charge the battery if the os can't boot) ... is simply NO fact, but FUD | 10:41 |
| japh | what? | 10:41 |
| japh | please --verbose | 10:41 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | both N9 nand N950 have a bq27xxx dedicated battery management chip which can and does charge battery without any support from CPU - under certain conditions (I.E. fastcharger with D+- short), and only for a limited time and to a minimum charge level | 10:50 |
| Jaffa | ZogG_laptop: OK, happy to do that; but I suggest posting it to the wiki - it can also be reverted and gives an easier collaboration environment. Or post it as Getting_Started_With_OBS_(Draft) | 10:51 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | however this charging is sufficient to avoid the bootstrap problem you'd otherwise face with depleted battery that doesn't suffice to boot up the device | 10:51 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | the charger chip indicates this charging by a signal on a pin that's connected to LED. Thus the initial white (on N900: amber) constant lit LED is by charger doing his job. It gets stopped as soon as system boots up (to bootloader) and talks to charger chip - this will stop the autonomous mode of the charger chip | 11:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | eventually system controlled charging kicks in | 11:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | if however your system need long (or forever) to boot up to a state where the BME takes over with charging, or if your battery has lost most of its capacity so it can't power the system for those few seconds without dropping voltage from bootup to shutdown threshold - you will see a bootloop where system tries to boot up, depletes battery to the point where system shuts down, charger chip may (or may not) kick in again with | 11:21 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | autonomous emergency charge method and bring battery to a level where the whole game restarts again, and again, and again | 11:21 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | (the actual thing happening is even a bit more complex, since the charger chip should continue charging until anybody of bootloader/system talks to it, and even then there's a timer in that chip that should keep charging in effect until timer expires, which is sth between 10 and 30s) | 11:26 |
| japh | docscrutinizer05, thank you. | 11:27 |
| japh | I think he mentioned n900 specificly, that's what I based my reply on | 11:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | there's no difference in all that between N900, N9 and N950 | 11:29 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | except color of indicatoe LED | 11:29 |
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| japh | hmm. | 11:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | the action regarding charger chip taken in bootloader(s) and system though might differ | 11:30 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | btw that's what in short boiled down to: | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | ~flatbatrecover | 11:31 |
| infobot | Remove battery for 1 minute. Insert battery. Plug powered Nokia wallcharger to device. Watch steady amber. Let sit and charge. Do NOT try to boot. After 30 min, you got either a) a booted up N900, b) flashing amber which means you can boot, c) steady amber going off - in this case start over again with ~flatbatrecover | 11:31 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | and obviously this applies only when you got a working OS installed on your N900 | 11:33 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | as otherwise -> bootloop | 11:33 |
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| japh | docscrutinizer05, thank you | 11:37 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yw | 11:37 |
| japh | it seems your --verbose flag is in perfect workable condition :) | 11:37 |
| japh | is it frowned upon asking if someone wants to buy a n950 in here? | 11:38 |
| japh | I see what I did there | 11:39 |
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| gabriel9|work | japh: no one wish to sell N950 :/ | 12:16 |
| gabriel9|work | i would not if i had one :) | 12:16 |
| japh | do you want it? | 12:17 |
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| Lava_Croft | how much | 12:56 |
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| torarne1 | thp: ping | 13:15 |
| torarne1 | niwakame|away: ping | 13:15 |
| thp | torarne1: pong | 13:15 |
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| torarne[qtcs] | thp: what's the status of libpurple in harmattan these days? | 13:16 |
| torarne[qtcs] | thp: i see the extras-plugins bundle its own binaries, and advocates/blacklists the standalone package | 13:16 |
| thp | honestly don't know. i basically just compiled the debian source package into my obs home project | 13:16 |
| torarne[qtcs] | i'd like to build a libpurple plugin, and wondering where/how i should depend on libpurple | 13:16 |
| thp | haven't been actively working on it | 13:16 |
| thp | i also don't know what the current "best practice" is in that regard. both variants (separate packages + all-in-one extras-plugins thingie) work fine | 13:17 |
| thp | i guess it depends on what you are more comfortable it and with what you want to be compatible / where you want to publish your plugin | 13:17 |
| torarne[qtcs] | yeah, that's a good point | 13:18 |
| torarne[qtcs] | what there issues getting libpurple(based) stuff into ovi? | 13:18 |
| thp | i didn't try | 13:19 |
| thp | is there one? | 13:19 |
| thp | the thing is, if you want to publish to ovi, your package has to be self-contained (no dependencies apart from nokia repos) | 13:19 |
| torarne[qtcs] | ah, i see. and they don't accept non-application packages into the ovi store? | 13:20 |
| torarne[qtcs] | eg a standalone libpurple? | 13:20 |
| thp | torarne[qtcs]: i *guess* you'd have to provide an application icon at least | 13:21 |
| phako | and I'd even try to avoid dependencies in the nokia repos as that seem to cause problems with some people | 13:21 |
| phako | thp: no, you can discuss yourself out of that, but you need to provide some functionality they can test | 13:21 |
| thp | phako: ah, didn't know that. | 13:22 |
| torarne[qtcs] | i see | 13:22 |
| thp | phako: so does the description have to say something like "no app icon" then? | 13:22 |
| torarne[qtcs] | i mean you can have a settings meny, that should be enough ui ? | 13:22 |
| phako | thp: that would probably help, I explained it in the first denial and it was ok then. | 13:22 |
| torarne[qtcs] | like the homescreen app | 13:22 |
| thp | i'd do an application anyway, even if it's just some static info on how to get started | 13:23 |
| thp | don't expect that all ovi users are smart enough to read the descriptions ;) | 13:23 |
| torarne[qtcs] | so the libpurple here, http://o.thp.io/tmp/harmattan-purple/, and the one (binaries) bundled with the extra plugins are === ? | 13:23 |
| thp | phew, i did that last december. not sure how the dependencies were set | 13:24 |
| thp | torarne[qtcs]: if you have lesspipe installed, just "less" the .deb and you should see | 13:24 |
| torarne[qtcs] | thp: thanks for the tip | 13:25 |
| thp | im-providers-additional there has "Depends: libpurple0, telepathy-haze" | 13:25 |
| thp | telepathy-haze has "Depends: [...], libpurple0 (>= 2.10.0), [...]" | 13:26 |
| thp | and harmattan-protolol has "Provides: im-providers-additional, libpurple0, telepathy-haze" | 13:27 |
| torarne[qtcs] | hmm, interesting | 13:29 |
| torarne[qtcs] | these packages are in the razr repo? | 13:29 |
| thp | razr repo? | 13:30 |
| torarne[qtcs] | sorry rzr, the community repo | 13:30 |
| thp | not sure about that either.. i *think* i submitted it there once | 13:30 |
| torarne[qtcs] | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ ./ | 13:30 |
| torarne[qtcs] | hmm | 13:31 |
| thp | there's telepathy-haze in http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/ | 13:31 |
| torarne[qtcs] | doesnt look like it | 13:31 |
| thp | but no libpurple | 13:31 |
| torarne[qtcs] | yepp | 13:31 |
| torarne[qtcs] | so which repo has those packages that you listed? | 13:31 |
| thp | home:thp:protolol | 13:32 |
| torarne[qtcs] | ah, great, thanks! | 13:33 |
| thp | if anyone wants to help getting these into the rzr repo, i'd be happy to get some support and push them there | 13:33 |
| Lava_Croft | thp: thanks a bunch for Billboard! | 13:33 |
| thp | Lava_Croft: :) glad you like it | 13:33 |
| Lava_Croft | you made me pay for an ovi store application | 13:34 |
| Lava_Croft | quite the feat | 13:34 |
| Lava_Croft | one slight thing tho | 13:34 |
| Lava_Croft | its quite hard editing text inside billboard | 13:34 |
| Lava_Croft | maybe you can turn the text/editing area into something more akin to an actual text editor | 13:34 |
| Lava_Croft | its a bit hard to organize/move around text within it | 13:35 |
| Lava_Croft | havent been able to for example select text in it | 13:35 |
| thp | Lava_Croft: are you using version 1.0.1? | 13:35 |
| Lava_Croft | the latest | 13:35 |
| thp | "latest" is relative :p | 13:35 |
| Lava_Croft | well, latest that is offered to me automagically | 13:35 |
| Lava_Croft | i guess thats 101 | 13:36 |
| thp | check in "Help / About" | 13:36 |
| Lava_Croft | aye, 101 | 13:36 |
| thp | hmm selecting and copying text there works fine | 13:36 |
| thp | it was a bit awkward in 1.0.0 | 13:36 |
| Lava_Croft | How would i go about selecting text inside billboard then | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | hmm | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | wow | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | so i tried for a good 10 minutes before | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | but i managed now | 13:37 |
| thp | :) | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | god that would have saved me time | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | oh well, problem solved! | 13:37 |
| Lava_Croft | it seems the questionable behaviour of the meecast icon also disappeared | 13:38 |
| Lava_Croft | there was some other thing but i cant remember. ill take it to the thread once i recall :) | 13:38 |
| Lava_Croft | thanks | 13:38 |
| phako | thp: oh, you got away with telling people to reboot? Cool. That should solve my icon problem | 13:39 |
| thp | phako: for the next release, i'm restarting sysuid in the postinst script. wonder if that'll go through :p | 13:40 |
| Lava_Croft | oh, one more question, thp | 13:40 |
| thp | Lava_Croft: yup? | 13:40 |
| Lava_Croft | is using stuff like the python scripts for uptime or alarms actually 'bad' for the battery in a way that one might notice it? | 13:40 |
| Lava_Croft | i could go about and test it, but i figured just asking might be faster:P | 13:41 |
| thp | Lava_Croft: depends on what your script does. | 13:41 |
| Lava_Croft | they are exact copies of what you suggest on thp.io and in the thread | 13:41 |
| Lava_Croft | concerning uptime and showing alarms | 13:41 |
| thp | Lava_Croft: should not be too much of a problem. it also depends on what else you have on your billboard | 13:42 |
| thp | because every change in something (e.g. change in battery percentage) triggers a "redraw" and therefore also calls all scripts | 13:42 |
| Lava_Croft | full date, battery, uptime, alarm, cell network, AP | 13:42 |
| thp | this might change in a future version, though | 13:42 |
| Lava_Croft | ah | 13:42 |
| Lava_Croft | that is a good hint | 13:42 |
| thp | something like caching the script output and only updating the script output if the last update has been before now - X minutes | 13:42 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah | 13:43 |
| Lava_Croft | overall theres nothing to complain about with the n9's battery anyway, when your previous device was an n900 | 13:43 |
| Lava_Croft | like in my case | 13:43 |
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| thp | the display / network connections usually eat more battery than single apps running in the background. | 13:48 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah | 13:49 |
| thp | and in case of billboard, i've tried to make it efficient (event-based where possible) | 13:49 |
| Lava_Croft | well, so far i havent really noticed any drawbacks regarding battery usage | 13:49 |
| Lava_Croft | all the streaming of audio ruins batterylife anyway | 13:50 |
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| thp | Lava_Croft: why do you stream audio? just download it before and then play it back locally | 13:57 |
| Lava_Croft | its a bit hard to download an entire live radio station:) | 13:57 |
| Lava_Croft | i listen to the stream of the dutch equivalent of BBC News | 13:58 |
| Lava_Croft | 32kbps aac | 13:58 |
| Lava_Croft | over 2g | 13:58 |
| thp | http://walfield.org/papers/2011-walfield-smart-phones-need-smarter-applications.pdf | 13:58 |
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| thp | ^ look at page 2 for battery usage comparisons | 13:58 |
| thp | Lava_Croft: you could get the news programme via a podcast and record streams on your home machine to get the music mix | 13:59 |
| thp | or use fm radio? | 13:59 |
| Lava_Croft | streaming over 2g is basically the most trustworthy option, ive come to find out | 13:59 |
| Lava_Croft | FM radio has bad reception compared to 2g | 14:00 |
| Lava_Croft | and to be honest, for an internet radioplayer, the battery does last quite a while | 14:00 |
| Lava_Croft | but you cant carry around 3 spare batteries, like with the n900 :< | 14:01 |
| Lava_Croft | well, technically i could, but you know... | 14:01 |
| thp | there are external battery packs that you can hook up via usb | 14:04 |
| Lava_Croft | yeah, gilette makes 2 different ones | 14:05 |
| Lava_Croft | i think they only differ in hours provided | 14:05 |
| Lava_Croft | well, and price :P | 14:05 |
| phako | does anyone know how I get that "pulling down a ListView exposes search bar" effect? I Mean I have a search entry and a listview, but I can't really grasp to which signals I need to connect. | 14:10 |
| thp | phako: i guess that's a MTF feature. haven't found a way to do it in QML (apart from writing it manually, that is) | 14:11 |
| phako | thp: and with manually you mean painful fiddling I suppose? | 14:11 |
| thp | phako: i guess. look at QML Flickable's properties (contentY, visibleArea.yPosition, etc..) | 14:12 |
| thp | phako: you should be able to place the text entry (search box) into QML ListView's "header" property, though (and then just set size + clipping at the right time) | 14:12 |
| phako | uh, right, header | 14:13 |
| phako | the "right time" is the thing I have issues with | 14:13 |
| thp | phako: if you implement it, let me know - i'd have a use for that as well :) | 14:13 |
| phako | sure | 14:13 |
| thp | phako: i'd start out by doing a console.log() in "onContentYChanged" and figure out the values and behavior from there | 14:14 |
| phako | wait, contentY | 14:14 |
| phako | dread | 14:14 |
| phako | I looked at yPosition and wondered how to get a signal for that | 14:14 |
| thp | phako: it's one of the best kept secrets of qml, i guess :p | 14:15 |
| phako | QML is unbelievably nice to make UIs in - and at the same time it's so unbelievably painful... | 14:15 |
| thp | phako: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeintroduction.html#property-change-notifications | 14:15 |
| phako | thp: yeah, but you have that visibleArea thing in between | 14:16 |
| thp | phako: try visibleArea { onYPositionChanged: console.log(yPosition) } | 14:16 |
| phako | meh | 14:17 |
| phako | ok | 14:17 |
| phako | ok, that works, as well as onContentYChanged | 14:18 |
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| phako | thp: where is that visibleArea {} thing documented? | 14:19 |
| thp | phako: http://doc.trolltech.com/4.7.1/qdeclarativeintroduction.html#grouped-properties | 14:20 |
| thp | (btw, I find it really annoying how google turns up different documentations as first result depending on what you search for) | 14:20 |
| phako | thp: ah, I thought that's some kind of object. | 14:20 |
| thp | phako: also read up on attached properties on that page - they are even more magic, but could come in handy (esp. with stuff like ListView) | 14:23 |
| phako | that google behavior is really annoying | 14:25 |
| phako | but still better than bing | 14:25 |
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| admiral0 | hello | 14:45 |
| admiral0 | i'm having some trouble with the wlan and a wpa enterprise(tls) connection.... | 14:47 |
| admiral0 | http://pastebin.com/DcTUfGja | 14:47 |
| admiral0 | at some point it worked... then an upgrade got me an arrow in the knee | 14:47 |
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| ZogG_laptop | sup guys | 15:12 |
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| ZogG_laptop | so except thanks and to my post and e-eyes post no one said anything about council winning award | 15:35 |
| admiral0 | lol, everyone sleeping in the US? | 15:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | admiral0: not everyone in US | 15:37 |
| admiral0 | :) | 15:38 |
| admiral0 | TZ? | 15:38 |
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| ZogG_laptop | admiral0: TZ? what is it? | 15:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | admiral0: oh, time zone | 15:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think i'm +2 | 15:51 |
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| ZogG_laptop | phako: sup | 17:49 |
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| Kozzi | thp: can you help me ? | 18:14 |
| Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: available ? | 18:16 |
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| thp | Kozzi: depends with what | 18:38 |
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| Kozzi | I'm trying to put your mustr to qtcreator and compile | 18:41 |
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| Kozzi | but it complains about the /debian folder and failed | 18:42 |
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| Kozzi | http://pastebin.com/wUUHELUg | 18:43 |
| Kozzi | and I can't select Shadow Build in Projects/Build/General | 18:43 |
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| thp | Kozzi: just "qmake" on the command line | 19:09 |
| thp | Kozzi: or try removing the debian/ folder as the message says | 19:09 |
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| thp | Kozzi: but really, it's just "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" in scratchbox (or prefix with "mad" to build it with MADDE) and "qmake && make" just to build the executable | 19:09 |
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| Kozzi | thanks, got it to run | 19:16 |
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| ZogG | chem|st, still no words from council, as they probably see as not too many talking about it yet =)))) but here we bring some attention http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85003&page=4 | 19:30 |
| ZogG | Kozzi here | 19:30 |
| ZogG | thp sup | 19:30 |
| thp | ZogG: hey :) | 19:46 |
| thp | Kozzi: feel free to submit patches via github issues | 19:46 |
| ZogG | thp, i wonder do you have playbook or bb10 device? | 19:46 |
| thp | ZogG: nope | 19:46 |
| ZogG | =\ | 19:47 |
| thp | but i'll be at the bb event in berlin next week, and according to Jaffa it's easy to port Qt/pure QML stuff to BB10 | 19:48 |
| Kozzi | is there a website for qt quick coding for absolute beginner ? | 19:59 |
| Kozzi | or a book, I could start with | 20:01 |
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| jonni | Kozzi: harmattan sdk documentation is pretty nice starting point, or http://quitcoding.com/download/Qt_Quick_Game_Programming_1_0.pdf | 20:25 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: btw about award for ovi apps, do we wait for everyone or devices were sent for people? as i got no info though my app in ovi, apps for meego and i sent all data at the start of the week =) | 20:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | chem|st: sup | 20:35 |
| phako | ZogG_laptop: hey | 20:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | phako: you are slowpoke | 20:37 |
| phako | but I've a full fridge now | 20:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | like in haiku | 20:38 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: patience is a virtue, my app passed ovi qa 8 days ago, and I still havent got any info. | 20:40 |
| jonni | so Im in the same boat as you | 20:41 |
| jonni | afaik they are sending in batches once a week. | 20:42 |
| jonni | so Im keeping my fingers crossed for next week | 20:42 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: than me too | 20:46 |
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| gabriel9 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=N1zxDa3t0fg#! | 20:53 |
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| gabriel9 | anyone see this? | 20:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | gabriel9: tht fail? | 20:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | i did | 20:57 |
| gabriel9 | yea | 20:57 |
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| gabriel9 | anyone been on bbcon? | 21:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | ti thimk Jaffa | 21:28 |
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| rzr | poor eyes | 22:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | rzr: what did you read? | 22:04 |
| rzr | he wanted a 950 | 22:04 |
| rzr | and he got none | 22:05 |
| rzr | let's hope this will not affect his motivation | 22:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | rzr: i don't get how when i start convo on council getting awards they flow goes to blame other who got =) i'm happy that a lot of people from list got, i just think that there are few that got coz they have power or friends with those people =) | 22:05 |
| rzr | i think stuff could be done using his android rom and mozilla's b2g project | 22:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | rzr: or e-eyes =) | 22:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | rzr: i never got his motivation as he is looking sceptic at things but still does his job =) | 22:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'll invite him to chat | 22:06 |
| rzr | he is around here | 22:06 |
| rzr | sometimes | 22:06 |
| rzr | anyway the council should deserve a freebie device | 22:07 |
| rzr | but they should not take others' ones | 22:07 |
| rzr | i guess guim should have kept some device for them | 22:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | wahy would council deserve device again? | 22:07 |
| rzr | and not puting those one in the competiton | 22:08 |
| rzr | because they are representing us | 22:08 |
| rzr | we voted for them | 22:08 |
| rzr | so this makes sense | 22:08 |
| rzr | but this is a very bad start ... assigning theirselves the gift is not good | 22:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | am i still thinking that devs and those who do work mainly for themselves but still share with others deserve(and i'm talking about testing, maintaining and porting and bug fixing) all this can be done solely just for yourself but people shared their work. while council is more like work | 22:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | manager doesn't give premia to himself =) | 22:09 |
| rzr | like previous french president , the day he was elected he rose his salary by 170% or so .... | 22:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeah | 22:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | revolution on TMO =) | 22:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | inpichment or how do i spell it | 22:10 |
| rzr | I wish those pple will start the rev at nokia HQ 1st | 22:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | i wish i was a billionere (C) pop song | 22:12 |
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| mankeli | haha, quite a nasty trick to get n950 :D | 22:14 |
| mankeli | not saying anything first, and then just taking one | 22:14 |
| mankeli | "sorry, better luck next time" | 22:14 |
| thp | Kozzi: if you want to learn qt quick, implement some small project. you don't learn programming from books :) | 22:14 |
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| ajalkane | Anyone familiar with QtCreator and Madde's interaction? I have a new target created in Madde, but when I create a project in QtCreator the new target is not shown. Do I have to manually edit the .pro.user file to have the target, or is QtCreator supposed to detect Madde targets automatically? | 22:46 |
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| jonni | just add them on ui? | 22:59 |
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| ajalkane | jonni: yeah, I battled with that the whole yesterday evening. And today I managed to do it. I be feeling so stupid. | 23:04 |
| messerting | Is there a way to activate developer mode from the command line on the N9? | 23:05 |
| messerting | I only have ssh access to the phone, as the screen is broken | 23:05 |
| messerting | and I want to install/activate devel-su, in order to install a program to extract all contacts (vcardexport) | 23:06 |
| messerting | hm, I do have devel-su activated anyway it seems | 23:07 |
| ajalkane | Ah, I joyed too early. I'm still stupid getting the target added. | 23:10 |
| * messerting this seems to solve my problems: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1184510&postcount=23 | 23:10 | |
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| Sazpaimon_ | im surprised by just how many notifications show up on the sleep screen | 23:53 |
| Sazpaimon_ | ive got a calendar icon, missed calls, voicemail, email, a friend request, text message and chat message | 23:53 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | who knows what else | 23:54 |
| Venemo | yup, those do show up + all the facebook notifications, messages, twitter stuff, and charging status | 23:55 |
| Venemo | and then you can also put MeeCast in there | 23:55 |
| ajalkane | This ones undocumented, but there's also "Upgrade to Windows Phone 8 available." | 23:55 |
| Venemo | btw, if you haven't, now's a good time to get rid of AccuWeather and install MeeCast and its applet | 23:55 |
| Sazpaimon_ | i have neiter facebook nor twitter | 23:55 |
| Venemo | ajalkane: wat? | 23:55 |
| ajalkane | Just kidding | 23:55 |
| Sazpaimon_ | but there's also the update icon on the sleep screen too | 23:56 |
| Sazpaimon_ | so that's like 10 icons that show up under the clock on the sleep screen | 23:56 |
| Venemo | I recenlty learned that MeeCast can replace the AccuWeather widget and it can also put itself on the standby screen | 23:56 |
| Venemo | I was so glad to finally get rid of AccuWeather | 23:56 |
| Sazpaimon_ | now if only there was a way to replace AP mobile | 23:57 |
| Sazpaimon_ | because ive found that it only works if I open it once and a while, otherwise the notifications feed stops working | 23:57 |
| ajalkane | Up until recently MeeCast could not give in Finland hour-by-hour predictions, unlike AccuWeather. But now as it seems to do I'm tempted to replace AccuWeather completely | 23:57 |
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| ajalkane | AP Mobile and AccuWeather both stop working after a while. Pretty stupid. | 23:58 |
| Sazpaimon_ | also i really wish firewall+ would have a "this number has been disconected" message it can play | 23:58 |
| Sazpaimon_ | otherwise i'd totally pay for it | 23:58 |
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