IRC log of #harmattan for Wednesday, 2012-06-20

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jonnipa: semicolons missing at each line ends on assignments? :)00:00
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paaha.. no =... i must be really sleepy by now :)00:01
pathanks a lot!00:01
pa:)00:01
paah no00:01
jonnididnt test, just a wild guess00:01
paat the end00:01
paright00:02
pacoz its javascript00:02
pai just cut pasted from qml00:02
pau know.. :)00:02
pathanks :)00:02
ZogG_latoppa: missing ";" ?00:02
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ZogG_latopdidnt see jonni replied already00:05
jonniif you would use qml debugger, you also get script console where you see js errors. http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-2.5/creator-debugging-qml.html00:05
ZogG_latopbtw in qml u need those too00:05
pau mean the ; at the end of the line?00:05
ZogG_latopqtcreator show those by default and app started in console too afaik - when it starts qml00:05
paeven tho i added those, and it still doesnt assign00:06
pahmmm00:06
ZogG_latoppa: it says each function or operation ends here and another starts00:06
ZogG_latopother wise it thinks all those are the same big function that can't be understand00:06
paand in qml i also need semicols?00:07
padidnt know.. actually that code doesnt have them00:07
pabut kinda works00:07
ZogG_latopin many script languages those used00:07
jonnion qml semicolls are optional, but in js you need them.00:08
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AlphaX2I think you need semicolons only if you don't want to "waste" a new line00:08
ZogG_latopin qml they are needed as far as you have few lines, but in one line you don't need AFAIK00:08
AlphaX2{00:08
AlphaX2bla00:08
AlphaX2bla00:08
AlphaX2}00:08
AlphaX2should also work00:08
ZogG_latopin one line few functions == ugly +P00:09
ZogG_latopnight00:09
paanyway i added those, but my props dont update00:10
jonnipa: new codepad paste? or use qml debugger.00:10
AlphaX2pastebin it?00:13
AlphaX2rzr: where do I have to place my .gitignore00:13
AlphaX2because it is not working00:13
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AlphaX2rzr: it tells me there are changes in control~ and I should push them00:14
rzrat top dir00:14
rzrgit rm */*~00:15
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AlphaX2error: 'src/fotoshare_deb/DEBIAN/control~' has changes staged in the index00:16
AlphaX2(use --cached to keep the file, or -f to force removal)00:16
AlphaX2use force?00:16
AlphaX2rzr: ?00:17
AlphaX2rzr: I think it's merged00:17
rzrcongratz00:19
AlphaX2so YOU have now my code also in harmattan/FotoShareN9 my one is the same as before?00:21
paapparently by stuffing those props into an item worked out00:22
rzrlet pull to check00:22
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AlphaX2rzr: okay it is00:24
AlphaX2;)00:24
rzrhumm ?00:24
rzrhttps://github.com/AlphaX2/FotoShareN900:24
rzris not updated yet00:24
rzrdid u push ?00:24
pajonni, yes, that was apparently the problem00:27
panow, with the pros inside an item, i can also drag them into c++00:27
AlphaX2rzr: hmm no I don't think so00:28
AlphaX2If I try again it tells me up to date00:28
rzrthen you havent accepted my pull request ?00:29
AlphaX2ahh wait00:29
rzrit's still open00:29
rzrhttps://github.com/AlphaX2/FotoShareN9/pulls00:29
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AlphaX2but now it should be00:31
AlphaX2pulled a second time instead of pushing ^^00:31
AlphaX2my fault, sorry for the confussion00:31
AlphaX2;)00:31
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AlphaX2Can I also build it like you do now?00:32
rzryou should yes00:32
rzrinstall sb00:32
AlphaX2sb is ?00:33
MohammadAGScratchbox00:33
AlphaX2okay00:35
rzrall clear00:35
rzrwe're sync now00:35
rzrbed time00:35
rzrlater guys00:35
AlphaX2okay good n800:35
AlphaX2;)00:35
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ElleoZogG_latop: cool, well done (re: ovi store) :)00:36
AlphaX2Scratchbox for debian is working on Ubuntu without any problems?00:38
mankeliat least it does for me00:40
jonnihttp://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_Platform_SDK_user_guide_Installing_Harmattan_Platform_SDK.html00:40
jonniyes it has been tested with ubuntu natty00:40
ajalkaneanyone know what package is supposed to include Xlib-xcb.h ?00:41
jonniajalkane: fakeroot apt-get install libx11-xcb-dev00:45
jonniits in there00:45
Elleoajalkane: if you install apt-utils, you can do "apt-file update" then "apt-file find missingheader.h" and it'll tell you what package contains it00:46
ajalkanejonni: thanks... that package should have been installed, but I guess I need to dig up what went wrong00:47
Elleooh actually, I think it's in a separate package to apt-utils00:47
ajalkaneElleo: nice, I wondered why apt-file don't work00:47
Elleoah, and not packaged for scratchbox00:47
ajalkaneEnough if I can get it on device00:47
AlphaX2jonni: thanks I will try it tomorrow with 12.0400:47
Elleostill a lot of packages have the same names across debian/ubuntu and harmattan, so running it on a desktop system is usually enough00:47
Elleo(except for meego specific libs)00:47
jonniAlphaX2: its untested in 12.04, just like qt creator doesnt support 12.04 fully yet, it might be that sb fails on 12.04. Nokia devels have been told not to upgrade 12.04 untill its stable.00:50
jonnibut might work if your lucky :)00:50
Elleoif it's any reassurance it works fine for me on 12.0400:50
jonnihavent checked the status lately00:50
AlphaX2jonni: hmmm okay so maybe it is not that important for me00:50
Elleoalthough that's a system that's been upgraded from 11.10 with scratchbox already on it00:50
Elleoso I don't know if a fresh install works okay00:51
AlphaX2but I also have problems with QtCreator00:51
AlphaX2no help is shown also install only works as root00:51
jonniwell most likely it works. I'm still using 11.10 and not planning to upgrade untill there has been enough quineapigs on 12.04 who have fixed the bugs :)00:51
AlphaX2also 12.04 at all seems a bit buggy (for me)00:51
ajalkanehmm... apt-utils doesn't seem to contain apt-file. In Ubuntu I got it from package apt-file, but that package doesn't seem to be there for Harmattan00:52
jonniyou are never supposed to install sdk or creator as root or sudo, if you do then everything will be screwed00:52
AlphaX2I know^^00:52
AlphaX2Cause I am using Python it is not a big problem cause I'm only using the IDE part to write QML00:53
Elleoajalkane: yeah, that's what I said above after I checked ;)00:53
jonniajalkane: well in this case you dont need apt-gile, since I checked that package really installs that header00:53
ajalkaneElleo: ah lol, right00:53
ajalkanejonni: Yeah, would just been nice to have it for future needs.00:54
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jonniajalkane: well you can just wget the Contents-armel.gz and use zgrep header.h  Contents-armel.gz  to achieve the same, no need for apt-file01:00
ajalkanehmm... apt-utils doesn't seem to contain apt-file. In Ubuntu I got it from package apt-file, but that package doesn't seem to be there for Harmattan http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ directory structure? I'm not too knowledgeable about debian and didn't find it in places I thought it might be01:05
ajalkanesorry about that blabbering, i don't know how i managed to put it there. I meant:01:05
ajalkanejonni: thanks, good hint. But where is it in Harmattan http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/  directory structure? I'm not too knowledgeable about debian  and didn't find it in places I thought it might be01:06
Kozzihttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8498601:08
jonnican you pastebin your sources.list, I think that my env has url that I shouldnt paste :)01:08
ajalkane~ # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/harmattansdk.list01:09
ajalkanedeb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free01:09
ajalkane(it was too short to waste carbon-oxide on paste-bin :P)01:10
jonniahwell might be that public repo is missing that one then01:16
ajalkaneDamn... well, the immediate problem was solved anyway.01:16
jonniheh, well you can always ping me, and I can run the zgrep to tell which package provides it.01:19
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ajalkanezjonnigrep, that's good also :)01:20
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itsnotabigtruckjust got my irc up and running again06:37
itsnotabigtruckserver crash = very lame :(06:37
itsnotabigtruckanything new in the harmattan world06:37
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Kozzihttps://twitter.com/StevieElop/status/21482555097862553611:25
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Kozziah got it, the live trace tool isn't that smart after all12:56
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paanyone with qml bluetooth experience?15:29
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AlphaX2hi guys16:14
AlphaX2I need some help - cause I don't understand QMLs behaviour16:15
AlphaX2I have a config class which is contextProperty of the QML16:16
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AlphaX2the methods of Config evaluate to True or False and have just the task to set some buttons and switches to checked or not16:17
AlphaX2so I use them in QML this way: checked: config.get_<name>_checked()16:18
AlphaX2so just "ask" via Slot "Am I checked or not"16:18
AlphaX2its working very well but QML emits, if the element is checked the elements onChecked signal16:19
AlphaX2this signal is bind to another Classes Slot16:19
AlphaX2so it unchecks itself16:19
AlphaX2but that in fact can you see only on next start up16:19
AlphaX2what can I do?16:20
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rm_workIs it possible to send files *from* the N9(50) to another device via bluetooth? I can't find a menu option for it anywhere17:23
rm_workdo i need a special program?17:23
rm_workthe lack of file browser is aggrivating :(17:23
rm_workthat's the thing i miss most from Maemo517:24
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* rm_work googles17:24
ZogG_latoprm_work: filebox?17:26
rm_workhrm17:26
rm_workjust found this: http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/file-manager-harmattan-n9-n950-alpha-0-1-0-released/17:26
rm_workcan't actually find it tho17:27
rm_workso, filebox?17:27
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ZogG_latoprm_work: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=7634517:30
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rm_workthanks17:33
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Kozziwoho, 37 working tv channels, perhaps time to consider having them in an app.17:52
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MohammadAGScrewing up an iOS device means restoring it, there's no way around that18:13
MohammadAGkinda sucks18:13
MohammadAG+1 to Android and Harmattan/Maemo there18:13
paKozzi, do you use worldtv99?18:13
MohammadAGof course on Harmattan you'd have to reflash to get rid of the warranty void message but still...18:13
pa:)18:14
MohammadAGand one thing for sure18:14
MohammadAGwatchdogs suck on all devices18:15
pado you think that im better off with some native qt widget and use standard qt ways to handle bluetooth, since i cant get qml and qt interoperate on bluetooth?18:17
* RST38h moos at MohammadAG18:17
RST38hMohammad: Just go with Android. But yes, the mascot looks like a garbage bin for a reason.18:18
MohammadAGQWidgets dont work right on Harmattan18:18
MohammadAGRST38h, I hate it18:18
MohammadAGI also hate having to restore cause I screwed up the main UI18:18
RST38hMohammadAG: I also hate it. But I hate being assraped by Apple more.18:18
MohammadAGI prefer that to being assraped  by Java18:18
khertanHello !18:19
RST38hOh, I mostly ignore Java ;)18:19
khertanSome notice delay in QA on new apps in Nokia Store this days ?18:19
MohammadAGyou can't ignore a pita18:19
RST38hWrote a wrapper and forgot about it18:19
MohammadAGoh...18:19
MohammadAGI can't restore18:19
khertani ve submitted an app two weeks ago no answer yet18:19
RST38hYou can, if you do it wisely18:19
MohammadAGhow, fun18:19
* RST38h scared to install x64 Python18:22
RST38hgoing with x8618:22
Kozzipa: nope, you could try http://thestreamdb.com/18:22
Kozzithere lots of links, no idea if they work though18:23
Kozzipa: do you know if there is a way to add the stream gotten from rtmpdump to kmplayer ?18:26
Kozzi*add = pass18:26
MohammadAGWoo, started restoring18:26
MohammadAGfucking finally18:27
MohammadAGnow it needs 2 hours to restore my stuff, :D18:27
MohammadAGI'm not sure why that cable they supply says USB 2.018:27
MohammadAG32GBs of data should copy in 10 mins18:27
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ZogG_latopkhertan: what app?18:28
khertanZogG: KhtBMA18:28
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KozziZogG_latop: do you have the nick of TedTalks maker or links to the source?18:31
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paKozzi, dont know..18:33
pabut why dont u try worldtv99?18:33
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Kozziis it an app for n9 ?18:35
pafor kmplayer18:35
palist of feeds18:35
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Kozzipa: eh, no idea what you mean by that18:37
pasearch for it18:38
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ZogG_latophttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/9343720/Microsofts-Surface-tablet-fails-during-Los-Angeles-showcase.html18:47
ZogG_latoplol surface freezes during presentation18:48
ZogG_latophe feels so embarresed18:48
KozziI found the deb file and thread for maemo 5 but no info on source code or how it add links to kmplayer18:49
Kozzi*how it = how to18:49
ZogG_latopKozzi: write here  apps@aegis.co.id19:05
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Kozzithanks19:28
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pakozzi: you find the link on my-meego20:07
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Morpogoh wow, wp8 is as boring as wp7.....20:08
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Morpogstill no real multitasking......20:37
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rzrworse is better20:41
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ZogG_latopwindows will always stay windows20:42
Morpoghey, new nokia suite beta supports officially n9!20:49
Morpogwonders still happen20:50
ZogG_latopis it ported to linux ?20:51
rzrwho cares ?20:51
ZogG_latopif it is it's nice otherwise no use20:52
Morpoglol20:52
Morpognope its not20:52
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Morpogrzr, everyone who hates nokia link and wants to sync stuff offline20:53
Morpoglike contacts, calenders, etc.20:53
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rzrrsync :)20:56
HtheBhi rzr20:57
HtheBsup20:57
rzrhi20:59
HtheByou replied to the ios topic21:00
HtheBon tmo21:00
HtheBwhat do you mean with the 1st build?21:00
HtheBsince there is no maemo port at all (yet)21:01
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ZogG_latopHtheB: ori knwow your nick21:13
ZogG_latopso those are people that log in here just to sk quick question and ru away? =)21:13
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HtheBno, ive just installed irc21:15
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HtheBsaw zrz was active21:15
HtheBso just tought what he meant with his post :p21:15
HtheB(was trying out different irc clients on harmattan)21:17
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rzrHtheB, well i suggested to built it w/ gcc at least21:22
rzrbtw it may be a hoax21:23
HtheBhmmm, I think that the guy who got the ios apps running on the playbook doesnt make use of the magenta project21:24
HtheBaccourding to crackberry, it isnt21:24
HtheBas you may see the videos and posts21:24
HtheBgames works good because of opengl afair21:25
HtheBhang on, ill show you the link21:25
HtheBwww.crackberry.com/developer-gets-ios-apps-running-blackberry-real21:26
HtheBI dont think its a hoax at all :)21:28
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rzrso we should warmup our compiler21:30
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HtheBwell, ive contacted the devloper again to see if he still likes to join/help us21:39
HtheBwhat ive understand from his mail is that he is not allowed (or doesnt want) to share the sources21:39
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rzrMagenta. | http://crna.cc/ | Magenta: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3157793/Magenta/Photo%20Jun%2019%2C%206%2036%2055%20PM.jpg | The version on my site is ridiculously outdated, I know. I will update in within the next few days.21:42
ZogG_latopHtheB: diffferent clients? there are only 2 normal on n9 and irssi if you have n95022:02
ZogG_latoprzr: have you seen community award competitions?22:02
ZogG_latopchem|st: merlin1991 congrats you do deserve those btw22:03
ZogG_latopMohammadAG: and you22:03
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ZogG_latoprzr: 3 council memebers out of 5 won the phone :D22:12
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ZogG_latopJaffa: ping22:14
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ZogG_latopbeford: hey man22:20
befordhey22:21
befordhow is it going ZogG_latop22:23
JaffaZogG_latop: pong22:25
ZogG_latopJaffa: i have  question and some info i need to discuss with you22:28
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ZogG_laptopJaffa: i just going to write some howto on apps4meego + OBS + QtCreator as the wiki is not quite right and not quite usefull, but i would like someone to review it and than edit if needed before posting to wiki22:30
ZogG_laptopAFAIK you wrote the the current one related to QtCreator as i assume22:31
ZogG_laptopand second i just wondered how is BB10 device? =)22:31
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ZogG_laptop~ping22:33
infobot~pong22:33
ZogG_laptop=\22:35
ZogG_laptopbeford: nothing good, except my app in apps4meego and ovi now =P22:35
befordneed to hurry up with mine22:35
befordI'll work full on this weekend22:36
ZogG_laptopbeford: with lastfm?22:36
befordyea22:36
ZogG_laptopbeford: need help?22:36
befordI'll let you know heh, I've been doing ton of testing with the accounts thing22:36
ZogG_laptopyou was in same category as me or you in coding competition?22:36
beforddid you solve all the account issues?22:36
befordyea, same category22:37
ZogG_laptopbeford: i got info out of account but i don't got token thing22:37
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befordI don't remember seeing a deadline, is there one?22:37
ZogG_laptopi think i need to re-write plugin and the way i get data =)22:37
befordmost of the people already submitted the app though, so I'll better hurry up22:37
ZogG_laptopbeford: i didn't add accounts yet22:37
befordah ok22:37
ZogG_laptopbeford: i think at the end i'll end up with including koauth or what's the lib name in the app and f# native account as it's just a mess for noobie like me to figure it out22:38
befordhehe22:39
ZogG_laptopbeford: what do you use to auth?22:42
ZogG_laptopbeford: and what problems with account you have?22:43
befordlast.fm api doesn't support oauth, is something similar22:43
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befordZogG, I don't have problems yet but I need to finish it first :p22:47
jonnibtw, newest nokia suite now supports N950 and N9. :) support is back :)22:49
jonnisupport comes 'a bit' late :)22:50
palooks like a mocking for the users ;)22:53
pa"now that your device is dead, you can use nokia suite"22:53
Kozzimust be released by people who got cut recently22:53
tommahow many n950 owner uses windows which is only host os nokia suite supports?22:53
pabut so did Flop officially announced that the maemo project is now terminated?22:54
ZogG_laptopstill waiting for linux version22:55
ZogG_laptop=P22:55
pa= no further maemo devices ever?22:55
ZogG_laptopjonni: leak the code22:55
pathese days an iOS version would be more useful ;)22:55
pashit its a pity i didnt manage to finish my app by today22:56
panow i wont be able to work on it for at least a month22:56
befordhttp://crackberry.com/developer-gets-ios-apps-running-blackberry-real22:56
jonnipa: 11.2.2011 it was already announced that there is no new maemo devices ever. So that one was already known 16 months ago.22:58
pajonni, wasnt meltemi still in plan?22:59
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ZogG_laptoppa: plans change23:00
ZogG_laptoppa: there was plan that n900 would be step 5/6 or something like that =P23:00
chem|stZogG_laptop: thanks!23:01
jonnidon't know what that wind is, as havent seen any announcements on that. And winds would never have been maemo or meego based.23:01
chem|ststill weird to have 4 councelors on that list23:01
ZogG_laptopchem|st: only 3 won =)23:02
chem|stniel iv estel and SD are 423:02
ZogG_laptopchem|st: let's see if i would be banned again for my reply on that btw =P23:02
ZogG_laptopniel won too?23:03
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chem|stZogG_laptop: yes23:26
chem|stI am just wondering about councelors having the guts to do that ever!23:27
ZogG_laptopchem|st: late reply is so late23:27
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i would grab all of them and run away =)23:28
ZogG_laptopMWAHAHAHA23:28
chem|stsry was occupied by s/o on query23:28
pahow would you share a list of strings between qt and a qml listviewer component?23:28
ajalkaneWhat's the big deal? IMO anyone willing to get on the council to use their time trying to further our community deserves the device23:28
chem|stnvm I am off23:28
tommapa, qstringlistmodel?23:29
chem|stZogG_laptop: just thought you ping me about s/t important :)23:29
chem|stthe device will probably go to my GF anyway...23:29
ZogG_laptoppa: is it something to be changed a lot?23:30
patomma, thanks! and would you declare it in qml , and then retrieve it via property(""), and appropriate conversion of the resulting QVariant in Qt, or the other way around?23:30
ZogG_laptopchem|st: i'll send you one more, send me your gf23:31
paZogG_laptop, no, not much, but it is changed by Qt, and displayed by qml23:31
paand on qml i want to click on the items, and the signal has to go back to qt23:31
ZogG_laptoppa: can you explaine whole idea?23:31
ajalkaneQStringListModel does not work well in QML23:31
ajalkaneWell, correction, with Harmattan components.23:32
ZogG_laptoppa: i have made the element that is changed by Qt monitored by aml and updated23:32
pawell essentially i want to do bluetooth communication in Qt, and not qml, but i need a qml file to display the result of the scanning23:32
paat the moment i have the scnanning done all in qml23:32
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ZogG_laptoppa: i can show how i did it23:32
pabut i dont know how to bring back BluetoothService items into qt23:32
tommapa, just put those strings into model which you set as context property for qml23:33
paso i thought about running the scanning in qt, and use qml just for displaying23:33
paZogG_laptop, yeah, would be cool23:33
patomma, ah ok, so you would do the other way around23:33
tommaand make invokable function to some of your c++ qobject which takes index of clicked item23:33
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ZogG_laptoppa: https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/qml/imgrup/UploadPage.qml#L2023:34
chem|stZogG_laptop: for sure....not23:34
pathanks guys23:34
pafuck the presentation, i'll finish my app now :)23:34
ZogG_laptoppa: https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/upload.cpp#L3323:34
ZogG_laptoppa: the second is how i emit from qt23:35
Kozzipa: that's the spirit!23:35
ZogG_laptoppa: can you finish my and Kozzi's apps too please?23:36
ZogG_laptop:)23:36
ZogG_laptop23:36
Kozzimy app ?23:36
paone at time .. and u already got ur N9, what do you want?? : pppp23:36
* ZogG_laptop xmms2 Playing: Nina Simone - Do What You Gotta Do: 02:36 of 03:3523:37
ZogG_laptoppa: who got?23:37
pawell23:37
pau will get23:37
pa:)23:37
ZogG_laptoppa: i still didn't, i hope i'll get, but for now i still do not believe =)23:37
ZogG_laptoppa: so shoot for help if you want23:37
pau mean u fear Flow cancelled also the device program? :)23:37
payes im looking for a project mate, would you be interested? :)23:38
paactually the first version of the app is almost done23:38
Kozzijust got in touch with qml in qtcreator23:39
rzrZogG, well i got a n950 i am happy w/ it23:40
Kozzican I use this (create a qml file) showing a list of ..well channels and tapping an item will launch the $HOME/tvvn/tvvn.sh channel_name23:40
HtheBn95023:40
HtheBftw23:40
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ZogG_laptoprzr: yeah i know but i still think you diserve more than few from list =)23:41
ZogG_laptopHtheB: you got onw too?23:42
ezzyI cannot get my N9 to boot I am able to get flasher to reflash the device but to no avail.23:42
rzrwell i have nothing to say , i thank nokia for the 1st time23:42
ZogG_laptoppa: i might be interested and i have another project i want to do and people want to see on harmattan but accounts thing is stopping, so i might end up with not native account but oauth lib inside app23:42
rzrdonno how involved are the lucky ones , future will tell23:42
ZogG_laptopezzy: battery is full?23:43
rzri would prefer that owners are more active than i do , than having all devices23:43
ezzyZogG, flasher says, "Battery level 77 %, continuing."23:43
pawhat is stopping?23:43
paaccounts thing? meaning?23:43
ZogG_laptopezzy: full flash? any erro on display? what was the state before?23:43
rzrand i said my request was in "low priority" , so this is not a problem . but if my n950 die i'll be in serious trouble23:44
ezzyZogG, Full flash, "Updating SW release ... Success"23:44
ZogG_laptoppa: i know how to add account with oauth but not how to use it in app, and not good documentation there and i'm learning Qt and qml like you and my knowlegde at Qt and C++ probably less than yours =)23:44
ZogG_laptoprzr: screen syndrome is scary23:45
paah okay23:45
ZogG_laptopezzy: so u tried to flash and it died?23:45
paso u have to work on your problem now,thats what ur saying :)23:45
ZogG_laptoppa:  i started to work o tumblr client and made something simple23:45
ezzyZogG_laptop, no I flashed it because it died.23:45
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HtheBwell, ive got an n95523:46
paim making a sports tracker alternative, since the meego version is so crappy23:46
ZogG_laptoppa: nope i'll work on other things with imgrup while for new app account and oauth are mandatory23:46
ZogG_laptoppa: niiiiiice23:46
ZogG_laptopHtheB: n9 + keyboard thing? =)23:46
HtheByup23:46
ZogG_laptopHtheB: or nokla n955 clone of n95 from our chinise brothers?23:46
HtheBworks great if you ask me23:46
HtheBa little clunky ofcourse, but... i think i can live with that23:47
HtheBhahahaha23:47
Kozzipa: awesome! with maps support ?23:47
ZogG_laptopi'm good with no keybord as i don't type t much and use it's more like phone, though sometimes ssh to pc to put movie from salon on tv or to switch music =)23:47
befordyou need a better media system23:48
paKozzi, yes im planning to add that23:48
beford:P23:48
pagps+maps23:48
ZogG_laptoppa: btw is it tracker client or your choose other service?23:48
pabut i want to get public just with the hrm23:48
befordssh just to change music ZogG_laptop ? :p there are mpd clients for n9 and n90023:48
pano for now it will be stand alone23:48
pano web support23:48
pabut im planning to store the data in a quite simple format23:49
ZogG_laptopbeford:  i wrote kinda xmms2 client for n900, actually started but it died23:49
Kozzisport tracker requires internet connection for loading maps which suck since it's builtin23:49
paso that it can be pushed to different web services23:49
ZogG_laptopbeford: and i watch movies with mplayer23:49
ZogG_laptopbeford: as well i cn change music on computer from irssi on laptop =)23:49
KozziI still wonder if developers have access to use those map files inside the phone23:50
befordxbmc is probably better looking ZogG_laptop  :P23:50
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ZogG_laptopKozzi: maps of nokia sucks, viva la google23:50
befordZogG_laptop, is it a media dedicated pc?23:50
Kozziwhy bother load them online if map data files are pre-installed23:50
ZogG_laptopbeford: why so? i have desctop in my room and reciver in salon and cable for hdmi and sound (has no support on mobo to connect audio to nvidia to get audio thru hdmi too)23:51
ZogG_laptopbeford: it's desctop computer with torrents, data, music, web server, ftp and more =)23:52
KozziZogG_laptop: you should seriously consider getting xbmc, then use the xbmcremote made by mzanetti.23:52
ZogG_laptopbeford: it was more main pc before i got lazy with laptop23:52
befordah ok23:52
ezzySo is my phone really bricked? ...23:52
ZogG_laptopKozzi: read agin what i wrote23:52
ZogG_laptopKozzi: xbmc is limited distro, while i have fully functional and can do the same xbm can and more23:53
Kozziouch I'm slow typing23:53
ZogG_laptopezzy: there is option for that or that you didn't flash it right23:53
ZogG_laptopKozzi: beford i would suggest you to use funtoo =)23:53
ezzy./flasher -f -F <location>?23:54
befordarchlinux <323:54
ZogG_laptopbtw i have media-tv/xbmc in portage if you ask =)23:54
befordarch is fun too :p23:54
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Kozziwindows 7 :)23:54
ezzyWhat do you mean there is an option for that?23:54
ZogG_laptopbeford: tried it, it's not that logical and your aurs are nothing compare to portage23:54
ZogG_laptopezzy: option for what?23:55
ZogG_laptopezzy: do you have windows or linux?23:55
ezzylinux23:55
ZogG_laptop~flash23:55
infobotfrom memory, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing_N923:55
befordI was testing xbmcubuntu on my old computer http://p.twimg.com/ArD5EZACIAAlww8.jpg:large23:55
ZogG_laptopezzy: did you follow that ^23:55
befordI want to get a low power system first though23:56
ZogG_laptopbeford: don't see the point of that?23:56
ZogG_laptopbeford: i have my system set like that — tv connected to reciever23:56
paand i hope jonni will tell me how to do something i will really need : )23:59
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Kozzihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDJbT35X5k&feature=relmfu23:59
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