IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2012-06-18

ZogG_laptopin other words to make upload plugins for type of services and app to add provider files for those plugins with info like hostname port and folder for ftp for example =)00:00
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: ?00:00
Venemo_N9did you guys know that MeeCast can replace the accuweather widget?00:00
Venemo_N9I just got rid of accuweather once and for all00:01
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: yeeees, i have it for aloong time now =) it has also widget for low power screen and lock screen =P00:01
Venemo_N9I love it00:01
Venemo_N9anyway, I'm still new to the N9 :)00:02
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: there is coderus's app to get rid of native apps with no harm btw if you want to delete default apps at all00:02
Venemo_N9so this was news to me00:02
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: oh, you just got it, right =) have you finished the port? or started?00:02
Venemo_N9ZogG, which ones should I delete?00:02
ZogG_laptopi understand it was coz of qt5 port apps right?00:02
Venemo_N9that is correct00:02
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ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: i didn't delete any, but you can delete music store for example coz if you don't use it00:03
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: did you start to port?00:03
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: i think i'm getting one too, but i want n950 =((((00:03
Venemo_N9I spent most of my time with helping out Devaamo and meeting people00:03
Venemo_N9I'll start with Qt 5 once I get home from my holiday00:04
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: i heard you made speach, any video i can laught at you?00:04
infobotZogG_laptop meant: Venemo_N9: i heard you made speech, any video i can laught at you?00:04
Venemo_N9not uploaded yet, but there'll be00:04
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: =P00:04
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N9: btw are you innvolved in BB ? i think to buy playbook00:05
Venemo_N9I haven't tried yet, sorry00:07
Venemo_N9I wanted to, but didn't had the time00:08
befordI think w00t got a playbook00:17
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MohammadAGPlay book specs are cool00:21
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jonniheh, I didnt have time to do almost any networking in Devaamo, but the free beer and wine was ok :=)00:24
ZogG_laptopi think Jaffa has playbook00:27
ZogG_laptopbeford: i nailed it, try imgrup 0.0.7 and review it please =)00:28
ZogG_laptopjonni: did you met Venemo_N9 ?00:28
befordurl ZogG_laptop00:28
ZogG_laptopbtw i liked Linus speech when one guy asked how many were involved in maemo/meego thing and a lot raised arms, wonder who was there from TMO00:29
Venemo_N9hey jonni, have we met?00:29
Venemo_N9IRC nicks should've been written on the badges00:30
jonniVenemo_N9: heh yes, badges didnt have irc nicks, I was the guy who won Devaamo hacking challenge.00:30
ZogG_laptopnice, from thp's link on twitter — Python on the PlayBook/BB10 platform. This project is building up core capabilities to let anyone write Python apps for BB10. Work is currently focused on using PySide and the BlackBerry Qt port.00:31
Venemo_N9ah, right :) congrats!00:31
ZogG_laptopjonni: nice, what was the challange?00:31
Venemo_N9jonni, you grabbed the N950, right!00:31
DocScrutinizer05well, I wrote my nick to all badges I used on any meetings ;-D00:31
ZogG_laptopjonni: you unfair, are you collecting them? how many of those you have?00:31
ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: i wonder how you look like00:32
jonniZogG_laptop: 10 different kind of puzzles where you need to figure out login/pass and url, ranging from riddles to extracting them from inside binaries.00:32
ZogG_laptopdo you look like*00:32
ZogG_laptopjonni: nice =)00:32
jonniZogG_laptop: this was my 1st CE marked N950.00:32
ZogG_laptopjonni: but you had few as you told before as few n9 =P00:32
DocScrutinizer05dnag, now you can feel with us normal mortals finally00:33
ZogG_laptopor i'm mistaken00:33
jonniZogG_laptop: for example number 4 puzzle was
ZogG_laptopjonni: i'm too dumb for those things =)00:33
DocScrutinizer05jonni: WTF?00:34
ZogG_laptopok night00:34
jonniI wrote 5 liner perl to extracl login/pass/url from that dataset :)00:34
jonni(you had to figure out that uppercase letters made one set, lowercase a second set and morse code a 3rd set and then parse it in human readable format)00:36
jonniit took quite a while before I figured that out, since there was no hints.00:37
kimjujonni, how long it took to solve all the puzzles?00:37
jonniI dont know 5-6 hours or so00:37
jonniZogG_laptop: I've had few silver protoes before, but those are not that usable, because of limited memory. But now alteast I have a real memory from my meego times.00:42
rZrwho owns a bb10 device here ?00:43
befordlooks like a nice set of challenges jonni, congrats00:43
mankelijonni: btw...did you get fired aswell?00:44
jonnimankeli: yes, I'm among the 3700 people who will get sacked.00:44
mankeliok. I thought so :/00:46
mankelii read that they blocked employees from all repositories during the last day00:48
mankelior that the repos were just blocked00:49
jonninot entirely true, and nobody is fired yet, consultations will begin, but it will take 6 or so weeks before people actually get fired.00:49
mankeliyes, of course00:50
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rZrwell lets hope that part of nok will be sold to whoever want to resume that ... like webos but w/ brighter future00:51
jonnithere arent that many buyers out there. Only big enough company would be facebook :)00:52
Venemo_N9mankeli, that repo blocking thing is just rumor, I personally am not sure if it's true00:52
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Venemo_N9or is it?00:53
rZrwho cares if it is true or not ?00:53
jonni"the register" says they they only blocked the secret project repo, rest of the repoes are still open like Qt5 :)00:53
mankeliVenemo_N9: oh. my guess was that they tried to force people not to take any souvenirs :D00:54
mankeliisn't qt5 a public repo anyway?00:54
rZrbtw the sources of symbian^3 leaked00:54
rZrbut where did it go ?00:55
jonnimankeli: yes public on most of the parts :)00:55
Venemo_N9so what if they blocked it? didn't everyone already had it cloned on their computers?00:56
jonnimankeli: and even the qt5 repo will be needing someone to host it, since nokia will stop most likely stop paying to host it at some point.00:57
mankelirZr: and as for the companies interested in nokia's linux stuff, now there's also tizen as a competitor00:57
rZrqt5 on wp7 should leak :)00:57
jonni(just like will be needing a new host)00:57
rZrmankeli, i fear tizen is more vulnerable than meego was00:58
mankelihmm, in platform security viewpoint or otherwise?00:59
rZrthe community is weak today00:59
befordis there a community for tizen?01:00
rZrand the platform is less advanced that 1st release of meego ...01:00
rZrbeford, i guess yes01:00
rZrbeford, why should not be ?01:00
befordlast time I checked they did not even allow to register on the website :P01:00
rZryou're blacklisted :)01:00
rZras a microsoft trojan :)01:01
rZrno idea01:01
rZrask in #tizen01:01
rZrbut the website is kinda poor yet01:01
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mankelithe thing that irritates me most is that selop is talking about nokia being finnish company and all, while laying off LOTS of people, and most of these are finns01:04
rZrthat's global market ...01:05
Sniper_swen9 will be my last nokia for sure!!01:05
Venemo_N9for sure01:06
rZrwho cares01:06
mankelii know that, but it's still irritating that there's this trojan horse of a guy coming in as a savior and then ends up nicely packaging the company for microsoft to buy01:06
rZrlet's hope that one will last forever too :)01:07
rZrmankeli, we all knew that01:07
itsnotabigtruckanyone know if it's actually required to specify full name in a community award submission01:07
mankeliand after that we have an crashing ios, fragmented android, neurotically closed wp and some korean tizen01:07
itsnotabigtruckestel replied claiming that it is01:07
itsnotabigtruckiirc a bunch of other applications don't have it, and i thought it was settled before that it's not required01:08
rZryes he did that to me01:08
itsnotabigtruckso now i'm confused :|01:08
rZri did reveal mine01:08
rZritsnotabigtruck, this is microsoft new privacy rules :)01:08
rZri guess those nokia friends are giving us what need to be saved ...01:09
rZrthis is scary01:09
mankelirZr: yes we knew, but i still hoped that we would have at least meltemi coming :/01:09
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Venemo_N9good night guys :)01:16
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itsnotabigtruckmankeli: korean tizen?01:21
itsnotabigtruckis it being taken up only by korean vendors, or something01:21
mankelino no sorry, i mixed it up with bada01:23
mankelior whatever the samsung's os is called01:23
mankelibut hmm, i guess samsung plays a big part in tizen's development too01:24
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rZrbeen told that there is no future for BADA and TIZEN : bada3 is tizen201:29
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ieatlinttizen is mostly a joke as far as i can tell01:32
itsnotabigtruckrzr: interesting01:32
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rZrbtw have worked on bada ?01:41
itsnotabigtruckin my case: no01:45
itsnotabigtruckthough i've heard of it01:45
rZri did, and it was pretty painful01:47
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rZron early sdk it took me a day to deploy my app on device ...01:48
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sigmaorionhi there!03:22
sigmaorionon my N9 wifi gets disconnected with reason = 3, does it happen to anybody else?03:23
sigmaorionI've found old posts about it (from 2011) but no much information03:23
koewpa2 connection?03:29
sigmaorionWPA2-PSK 802.11g connection, koe03:31
sigmaorionit has happened with other wireless routers, but I don't remember which type of connection it was using...03:32
sigmaorionit was not open and not WPE either03:33
koedoes it disocnnects or just cant reach web while connected?03:34
sigmaorionno, it disconnects03:34
sigmaorionin the logs I found "disconnected for reason = 303:35
sigmaorionlet me look at the logs to paste it03:35
sigmaoriondoing dmesg I found this:03:38
sigmaorionwlan0: deauthenticating from c8:3a:35:02:a0:08 by local choice (reason=3)03:38
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koei just tried connect to wpa2 psk, disconnects every ~minute with reason=6, then connects again03:48
koeor just"connection lost"03:50
koewpe works fine thought03:50
sigmaorionummm, that's even worst03:55
sigmaorionit happens to me randomly, maybe 10 times a day03:56
sigmaorionit depends, it seems to fail more often when I'm talking with my SIP account03:56
sigmaorionpretty annoying!!03:56
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ZogG_laptopbeford: you are welcome to test and review imgrup on apps4meego =)10:44
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Kozzihow to create a desktop icon linked to a .sh file?11:06
Kozziie I have a in /home/user/  and would like thqt clicking the icon opens this file11:08
sandst1Kozzi: check out the .desktop files /usr/share/applications11:11
Kozziok thanks11:12
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alteregoMohammadAG: looks like someone has hijacked your email account.11:25
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MohammadAGalterego: Well aware of that, already apologized on twitter11:27
MohammadAGI don't use that account, you can block it11:27
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alteregoMohammadAG: Okay cool :)11:33
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paisnt it possible to control a switch from the application? (e.g., to change its state)12:35
pait looks it's all read only12:35
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koeguys, advice needed: i'm playing with QtSDK, trying to build some harmattan packages from sources, and seems like SDK lacks headers12:38
koewhat should i do/install to build them without errors?12:38
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JaffaMorning, all12:51
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koeday, i would say)12:53
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Lava_Croftbut you werent saying it12:55
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koei almost did12:57
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koeso, no easy way13:34
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phakokoe: did you install everything? The harmattan SDK used to be under the experiental stuff14:10
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koeyes, at installation i choosed everything. i tried to build meego-terminal and it requests headers which i found in maemo sources14:13
koemeegotouchhome requests homescreenadaptor.h which i couldn't find at all14:13
phakono idea14:20
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piggzguys, really need a new sim for my N9 (i real micro one instead of my old sim which was cut to fit with scissors, same number) but now my N9 wants a security code entered, and i can recall setting one.  Ive tried my track&proctect pin, and various passwords but nothing unlock it. So, int he mean time, ive got an excuse to use my n950 again14:33
TMavicadont understand what you meaning..14:35
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piggzTMavica: phone is asking for a security code to be entered when i switch it on14:36
piggzno idea what it is14:36
piggzwill a reflash remove it?14:36
mgedminI doubt it14:36
mgedminpiggz, ok, "Security code" is device lock; you can set it in Settings -> Security -> Device lock14:37
mgedminit's not set by default14:37
mgedminor is it 12345?14:37
phakokoe: Could be that you can't build those inside Qt Creator, might need scratchbox for those14:37
mgedminno, mine says "not defined"14:38
TMavicaYou set a lock that you forgot?14:38
phakokoe: homescreenadaptor.h is generated e.g.14:40
piggztried 12345, 1234, 0000, 00000, track&protect pin, mfe password, ovi password, all my other passwords, debit card pin, but im certain ive never set one anyway14:42
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phakopiggz: that's probably track & protect kicking in14:43
piggzphako: looks like it...when i went to tracj&protect website, it said there was an alien sim in it14:44
piggz18-06-2012 Command 'Alien SIM detected' was received from phone.14:44
piggzCredits charged: 114:44
mgedminyour phone was abducted by aliens14:45
koephako, thanks! will try14:45
TMavicai never use track protect...cant help u..14:46
phakokoe: just tested, meegotouchhome seems to build fine in scratchbox14:46
piggzsent track&protect a support request14:48
koephako, thanks :) i'm trying to start scratchbox right now, but 'permission denied' is all i got. so owner is root, group - sbox, and user is in that group. any ideas?15:00
phakokoe: did you follow ?15:00
koephako, yes, installed with admininstall. when i try to run from root, it says not allowed to run as root :/15:04
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paguys, do you know whether the Switch qml component emit any signal after it gets switched?15:06
Elleopa: you can use onCheckedChanged15:10
Elleoiirc all properties should emit an onPropertyChanged signal15:10
Elleo(where Property is the actual name of the property)15:10
paaha! thats the practice.. didnt knwo that15:11
paindeed it works15:11
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Elleopa: great :)15:19
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Elleopa: yeah, it's not especially clear, I only found out because thp happened to mention it once I think15:19
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paElleo, yes, its not really documented..15:21
Elleowell it's probably documented somewhere, I'm just too lazy to read *all* the documentation ;)15:22
Kozziis it possible to have mplayer playing in background and show images in the running apps screen ?15:22
paby the way, im trying to get qml and c++ interoperate, and apparently i can get signals from a c++ qobject, but for some reason, if i do something like onPropertyChanged: myCppQobject.setMyProperty(somevalue)  , i get like:  'myCppQobject.setMyProperty' [undefined] is not a function.15:23
paprobably there's something i didnt get of qml15:23
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ZogG_N9debug =)15:25
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pathat i also tried, but i realized i dont understand how to debug with the simulator and qml :)15:25
pamaybe the Q_INVOKABLE15:27
ZogG_N9my code is sending data from qml and back to qml, so check how i do that15:29
pawhats ur app again? :)15:30
ZogG_N9check on github15:34
paby the way, is it possible to have a pre or post-install script in N9 debs, that is executed as root?15:37
petterion .deb to rule them all rm -rf /15:37
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pai need to chmod a file15:38
fralsyes, you "just" need to request it in the aegis file15:39
fralsbut afaik everything in the script will then be run as root15:39
pagreat, thanks! :)15:39
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ZogG_N9pa, postinst check mine i do chmod15:42
pawow great :)15:43
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koephako, reboot helped)15:53
phakokoe: ah.15:54
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thppa, Elleo: "Further, each QML properties have a <property_name>Changed signal and its corresponding on<property_name>Changed signal handler." :)16:16
Elleoaha, thought it'd be documented somewhere besides thp's head ;)16:24
Kozzican someone help me with bash shell script?16:27
KozziI'm getting Syntax error: unexpected word (expecting " in")16:27
Kozzieven though this script work on linux machine16:28
Kozzithe line which generates error is : case "$@" in16:29
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chem|stKozzi: case $@ in16:30
Kozzistill same error16:31
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chem|stand I would not make '@' a variable16:31
Kozzihow I call it: sh tv116:31
Kozzithat's why I need @16:31
chem|stKozzi: that is $116:32
chem|stor I do not get you16:32
chem|stand sh isn't bash16:32
Kozzichem|st:  check pm16:34
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paKozzi, pastebin17:06
chem|stchemist@04:15 PM snowwhite:~$ ./ vtv117:15
chem|ststarting VTV1 using Mplayer with cachesize 1024...17:15
chem|st./ 5: ./ rtmpdump: not found17:15
chem|st./ 5: ./ mplayer: not found17:15
pathis works for me:
chem|stkozzi I will not reply to your queries, send here or leave it17:18
chem|stKozzi: chmod +x script.sh17:18
chem|stKozzi: works with sh or bash for me17:19
chem|stand I have no N9 at hand to try17:19
Kozziok, still got premission denied17:20
Kozzinow doing with root17:20
chem|stKozzi: it is the place you are at17:21
chem|stnot the file17:21
chem|stcopy it to somewhere in $PATH17:21
Kozzistill premission denied17:23
KozziI did chmod 777 tvvn.sh17:23
chem|stKozzi: not important for now!17:24
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chem|stKozzi: sh vtv1 does not work and the question is why17:25
Kozziyes, the only way for me to run this is sh tvvn.sh17:25
Kozziyes, this works everywhere but n917:25
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chem|stok then it is the shell you are invoking from17:26
chem|stthat is what I said 15minutes ago...17:26
Kozzisorry for not getting it17:26
chem|stKozzi: what is $SHELL?17:26
Kozzibusybox ?17:27
Kozziall I did was running Terminal and ran the script17:27
pano the shell in n9 is ash17:28
pabut it should work17:28
palet me try17:28
chem|stpa: thats what I guessed from "busybox ?", so this weird ash17:29
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paKozzi, so the shell script obviously works17:30
pabut i get rtmpdump: not found17:30
pamplayer: not found17:30
paare there for N9?17:31
chem|stpa: :)17:31
Kozziyeah it should be installed first17:31
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pai mean is there also mplayer compiled for n9?17:31
chem|stpa: just thought I am nuts...17:31
chem|stpa: there is a debian arm build so in general yes17:31
paah cool17:32
Kozziyes there is17:32
pai should install it then :)17:32
pait's my player of choice :)17:32
pabut i guess its not hw accelerated17:32
chem|stmplayer is obsolete mplayer2 would be interesting17:32
paat least in the decoding17:32
pachem|st, why do you say that?17:33
paafaik it is still developed, isnt it?17:33
paKozzi, thanks!17:33
Kozzipa could you paste the working one ?17:33
payou mean script? the one chem|st pasted,
Kozziit's what I have but for me it doesn't work... man17:34
Kozzilink for rtmpdump17:34
pai try17:34
paso it works17:37
patry to reboot, you never know.. :)17:39
KozziI created it using notepad++ and copied to n917:39
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pamaybe that17:39
Kozzicould this cause some permission problem ?17:39
pai copy pasted it into mcedit on a putty terminal17:39
pait might be the line terminator17:39
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pado you know a free file dropping site?17:43
pathanks :)17:45
paKozzi, try the file i sent you17:46
pathat is what works for me17:46
pa(if untouched)17:46
pai suspect the problem is your editor, anyway17:46
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Kozzidoesn't work17:48
patry to cat it, in the terminal17:48
paif there are windows CRLF you should see it17:49
Kozzistill get the syntax error17:50
pachem|st, i didnt know about mplayer2, but honestly it seems less mantained than mplayer17:50
Kozzirights for are -rw-r--r-- owned by user17:53
pachmod 755 test.sh17:54
pa./ <channel>17:54
pathats what i did17:54
Kozzipermission denied17:55
Kozziand even with root-access I couldn't change rights17:55
paare you sure your n9 is doing good? :)17:55
koewhere's script at?17:55
Kozzijust got it back from nokia care recently... so I guess ?17:56
paput it in /home/user17:56
payou cant execute from fat17:56
chem|stpa: one will die... I guess17:56
paor you have to do "sh"17:56
pai guess17:56
Kozziyes that's what I have to do to see the syntaxt error17:57
pachem|st, hm well, considering that mplayer is pretty estabilished, and mplayer2 mainly unknown.. :)17:57
pafor me even sh works17:58
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Kozziin -rwxr-xr-x 1 user18:00
Kozzi./ vtv118:00
Kozzibin/sh: ./ not found18:00
Kozzish vtv1 >>> line 2: syntax error: unexpected word (expecting " in")18:01
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pahmm.. at this point im not quite sure what more to guess18:03
KozziI made a .sh with just the rtmpdump-line and running it works18:03
Kozziboth ./ and sh works but not this18:03
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mgedminKozzi, have you tried develsh?18:15
mgedminis developer mode enabled?18:15
mgedminwhat firmware version is this?18:15
KozziI haven't tried develsh, trying now --> not found18:16
Kozzideveloper mode not enabled18:17
Kozzifirmare pr1.318:17
Kozziehh 1.2 I mean18:17
koeKozzi, you have that rtmpdump installed, right?18:22
koetry to wrigth full path to it in script, it can help18:24
Kozzithe problem is I just can't run the script18:26
KozziI have in same folder and this one excecutes nicely using sh or not18:26
Kozzithe which is a bunch of cases keep complaining about syntax error even though it works for pa18:27
koepastebin pls18:29
KozziIn other hand I created on device while the other one is from internet or notepad++ (win)18:32
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koeokay i give up :)18:34
Kozzithanks for trying18:35
Kozzialso pa and chem|st18:35
pathanks for the mplayer version for arm :)18:37
Kozziyou're welcome, the rtmpdump+mplayer is really handy during euro2012 :)18:39
Kozziso my second option is creating a .desktop file with EXEC=rtmpdump....18:42
Kozziand it seems to not work18:43
pamake an app :)18:43
paor a python script18:44
KozziI got all these links from a py script18:44
Kozzixbmc videoplugin18:44
paah yes the one that comes with kmplayer?18:45
paor wait that was another one18:45
padont remember18:45
KozziI got info about how to get those streams from a XBMC video plugin18:46
Kozziit's written in python18:46
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KozziIf this work, I would make it into an app to watch live tv streams but now I struggle even with a script running a command on shell18:48
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koeKozzi, i just created .sh it linux and in runs on n9 without mistakes. so i guess problem was in windows text formatting19:10
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paany polar bluetooth chestbelt user here?19:14
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nibblerpa: not yet. was planning to get one though.19:19
Kozzikoe you are right19:20
Kozzibeen trying to copy paste the code into nano using qr codes and now it works19:20
panibbler, to use with what? :)19:20
Kozziwell seems like notepad++ isn't that reliable after all19:21
Kozzikoe thanks19:21
patry pspad19:22
Kozziall those files created in windows has DOS type when viewed in nano.19:23
Kozzitime to learn to love the virtual keyboard19:23
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ieatlintit's depressing/funny to see everyone i know at nokia on linkedin suddenly scrambling19:38
ieatlinti think every single nokian i'm connected to has added 20+ connections in the past 3 days19:39
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nibblerpa: h, polar... tought you were refering to
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pawell, both belts work on n919:47
pai guess. polar for sure, at least19:47
pa(and with sports-tracker too)19:47
pabut i can tell you, sportstracker for n9 is a big big piece of shit19:47
pabut dont worry :)19:48
ieatlinti imagine not that hard to write your own app.. but i'd fear the power drain19:48
ieatlinthow well do those actually work for you guys?19:48
pasportstracker is horrible on n919:48
ieatlintnot accuracy specifically, but i have a friend who used to use one, and would constantly complain that it was impossible to keep the sensor flush against her skin while active19:48
pawhat do you mean?19:49
pathe chest belt fits perfectly19:49
paat least the polar one19:49
pathey do these things for how long? 20 years?19:49
ieatlintyeah, she'd have trouble that whenever she ran, it'd lose contact19:50
pamaybe she wants to have it tighter19:50
ieatlintbut then, she also pointed out that the chest belt was a bit more difficult for her vs a guy, heh19:50
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Kozziused a whole weekend for this just because someone complained there is no vietnamese tv player for n919:59
Kozzifunny thing is I don't even watch those19:59
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koeKozzi, is some guide how to install this whole thing available?20:18
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Kozzikoe: not yet20:20
KozziI'm trying to create an that copys icons and desktop files to the right folders20:21
Kozziand to remove them20:21
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ZogG_laptopKozzi: did you use imgrup to upload picture?21:10
matrixxX-Fade: ping, I have a question about QA21:15
matrixxX-Fade: I'll just shoot it out now, you'll answer when you have time :)21:15
matrixxI have a theme there (two actually), and I have received 7 community reviews, 6 of them are proper, but one has said "yes" to all questions, which makes the "power consumption" and "license issue" ones look bad21:16
matrixxand I know there's really no problems with that, and also the other 6 reviews state my opinion too21:17
matrixxjust wondering if the "troll" one is keeping the theme in the staging area?21:17
rzrtalking about afm , is it future proof ?21:23
ZogG_laptopmatrixx: i assume person just answered without reading21:23
ZogG_laptopwhile considering yes is always positive feedback21:23
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Elleomatrixx: as far as I've seen the answer to most of the questions doesn't really matter, it's the very first question "Should the application be in this application catalog" which really matters21:26
Elleoand it's unticked by default21:27
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Elleoand there seem to be a few people that just click the review thing and go with all the defaults21:27
Elleoafter that one is left unticked by someone it appears to take a few more than 6 positive reviews to get things promoted21:27
ZogG_laptopElleo: WHY U NO test my app and review it?21:28
ElleoZogG_laptop: heh, I'll do that in a minute21:28
matrixxZogG_laptop: Elleo: ok, that clears it up21:28
ElleoI think the best solution would be to require anyone who denies an application to give a written reason why they think it shouldn't be included21:29
matrixxthough all reviews say yes for the correct catalog selection21:29
Elleomatrixx: yoss123 doesn't on your themes21:29
matrixxElleo: both?21:29
Elleo*all* his reviews always say things shouldn't be included21:29
Elleomatrixx: also it's not the correct section question21:29
Elleoit's the very first question21:29
matrixxah true21:29
ZogG_laptopmatrixx: not catalog selection but should it be in stable is matter as he said above21:29
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Elleoif people had to give a reason it'd make it clearer if there actually was a problem, and make it clear to them that they're saying it shouldn't be included21:30
matrixxthat should work :)21:30
ElleoI've tried contacting yoss123 in the past through the forums messaging, but I never got a response from him21:31
Elleoits hard enough getting 6 people to review most things, without some people just denying *everything* by mistake21:31
ZogG_laptopElleo: maybe X-Fade can get his mail thru data of account21:31
ZogG_laptopElleo: i did marked you as unwelcome in n9 club =P21:32
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ElleoZogG_laptop: huh?21:32
ZogG_laptopi reviewed your appi actually deleted you from apps4meego21:33
Elleowell fine, I'll just play with all the cool kids in the n950 club instead ;)21:33
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ZogG_laptopactually i'm the first who reviewed you21:34
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Elleoheh, thanks21:34
matrixxI haven't reviewed anything in a while, need to take some time this week and do a mass review :)21:35
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Kozzianyone know how to have mplayer show video in play live in the Running apps screen?21:39
Kozzican this be done with an attribute to mplayer?21:39
ZogG_laptopKozzi: i don't think21:40
pai think stock player doestn do that as well21:40
ZogG_laptopKozzi: maybe try with turn off screensaver or something21:40
pabut im not sure why, if it involves video acceleration, or for somoe other reason21:40
Kozziright now it just show a black windows with green rectangle inside21:41
Kozziwhich is ugly and difficult to know what is it21:41
pamight be due to the video acceleration21:41
ElleoZogG_laptop: reviewed, only thing I was dubious about is the category; maybe graphics/multimedia or even internet might be more descriptive than other?21:41
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ZogG_laptopElleo: thought of that, i even changed but rolled back coz of building for OBS and it triggered back =\21:42
paKozzi, for example, also angry birds stops updating in there21:42
ElleoKozzi: its probably using an xv overlay (or the omap overlay version), which means it'll never work in the running apps screen21:42
pai dont know if it is programmed like that, or not21:43
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Kozzioh too bad21:43
paElleo, yes thats what i was guessing too21:43
pabut you can probably use a differnt output video21:43
Kozziios android tv app can show 3-4 videos in once instance21:43
pamaybe -x11 would work21:43
pa-vo x1121:43
ElleoKozzi: you'd be better off writing an app for doing that21:43
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Elleohave 4 omap overlays in one application21:44
Kozziif harmattan is capable of show live those mplayer windows, it would mean ...alot of tv channels :D21:44
palet me try21:44
ElleoI expect performance will be pretty bad with non-overlay drivers21:45
ZogG_laptopKozzi: faster to make zombies21:45
AlphaX2hello somebody here with PySide/QML experience21:45
KozziElleo: making an app for harmattan is on my todo list for this summer21:45
ZogG_laptopAlphaX2: thp khertan21:45
AlphaX2thp: Are you online?21:46
paKozzi, it works21:46
Kozziwhat you used ?21:46
ElleoKozzi: well with gstreamer and the omap overlay element its pretty easy to give a specific area of the screen to render into21:46
pause -vo x11 on mplayer command line21:46
AlphaX2khertan: Are you online?21:46
AlphaX2tgalal: Are you online?21:46
paincredibly, mplayer for arm is even faster than stock video player21:46
pathats crazy21:46
ElleoAlphaX2: you're better off just asking your question instead of pinging everyone21:46
pacoz it probably doesnt even have hw video decoding21:46
Elleoand if anyone around knows the answer they'll help21:47
paprobably it uses 100% cpu tho21:47
AlphaX2I try to explain it21:47
AlphaX2I have 3 Swiches on my UI, how can I set them without emitting there signal?21:47
Kozzipa: yes it is, it can play all videos you throw at it, even those with bad audio codec21:47
AlphaX2I tried with Qt Propertys21:47
AlphaX2from QObject21:48
Elleowhy don't you want to emit a signal?21:48
Kozziwowho this is awesome21:48
paKozzi, if you are good at compiling it for yourself, maybe you can even enable gl video output for mplayer :)21:48
pai see that deb doesnt have it21:48
AlphaX2It's the settings GUI and I want to set them to the last state21:48
AlphaX2they are saving there own state onCheckedChange21:49
AlphaX2into an settings file21:49
Kozzipa: can't we just add -gl ?21:50
pait doesnt have the video output driver21:50
Elleoand how are you trying to set their properties?21:50
paprobably it wasnt compiled21:50
Elleocan you pastebin what you're trying?21:50
pakozzi, btw do you know how to make it full screen?21:50
pahere mplayer shows the top bar and a menu bar on the bottom21:51
AlphaX2I think yes21:51
paah thanks :)21:51
Kozzimade install and uninstall script :P time to sniff network for more channels21:51
panow you can have your 9 tiles previews :)21:52
pabut im not sure the cpu can handle all that21:52
ZogG_laptopmaximum it would explode21:53
Kozziheh, well it's not important anyway.. just nice to know that it can21:55
AlphaX2Elleo: This is the Python/PySide part21:55
AlphaX2and here the QML part21:57
Kozzi2 videos and it struggles21:57
AlphaX2It's working this is not the problem...but it calls the Slots which are bound to the Switches...21:57
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ElleoAlphaX2: I tend to do that sort of thing by making those properties of the pagestack and then populating them before loading a page22:26
piggz_so, i wonder if phoenix can find the security code for my locked N9.....22:26
AlphaX2hmm that sounds good22:26
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AlphaX2Elleo: I don't thought about the fact to load it on page-stack22:27
AlphaX2with property alias?22:27
Elleomight not be the most elegant solution, but it's pretty simple and easy to implement22:27
AlphaX2Jepp and in this case maybe the only working solution (?)22:28
Elleoyeah, with the property alias22:28
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Elleoanyway, I'm heading out for a bit; good luck22:29
AlphaX2jepp I came back and tell you if it is working22:30
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AlphaX2Elleo: okay seems to be a problem elsewhere, cause, also loading with property alias did not work as expected! :-/23:15
AlphaX2I'll give it a new try tommorow! ;23:15
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