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| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: peculiar | 00:08 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | are you still around? i'm guessing no | 00:08 |
| MohammadAG | Yes, just got back actually | 00:08 |
| MohammadAG | thp, I'll try that | 00:08 |
| MohammadAG | thp, I already set DISPLAY | 00:09 |
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| MohammadAG | 12320 nobody /usr/bin/led-event-notifier | 00:10 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: does it have UID::user, GID::users and GRP::users credentials from aegis? | 00:11 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, yes | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <request policy="add"> | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <credential name="mce::LEDControl" /> | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <credential name="UID::user" /> | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <credential name="GID::users" /> | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <credential name="GRP::users" /> | 00:21 |
| thp | for that specific binary, yes? | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | yeah | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <for path="/usr/bin/led-event-notifier" /> | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <for path="applauncherd-launcher::/usr/bin/applauncherd.bin" id="" /> | 00:21 |
| MohammadAG | <for path="/etc/init/apps/led-event-notifier.conf" /> | 00:21 |
| thp | hmm | 00:21 |
| thp | not sure if you need that applauncherd-launcher:: there | 00:21 |
| thp | also i don't have the policy="add" attribute in my <request>, and it still works - not sure if it hurts to add it, though | 00:22 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: and the aegis-exec line is also like the one i pasted above? | 00:24 |
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| MohammadAG | exec /usr/bin/aegis-exec -s -u user /bin/sh -c "source /etc/profile && exec /usr/bin/led-event-notifier" | 00:24 |
| thp | did you try rebooting or restarting the service / reinstalling the notifier package? | 00:25 |
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| MohammadAG | yes | 00:26 |
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| thp | slowly running out of ideas here.. | 00:27 |
| thp | and led-event-notifier has mode 0755 and owner root:root? | 00:28 |
| MohammadAG | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 76620 May 25 00:22 /usr/bin/led-event-notifier | 00:29 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: maybe removing <for path="/etc/init/apps/led-event-notifier.conf and <for path="applauncherd-launcher::/usr/bin/applauncherd.bin could help? | 00:36 |
| thp | could be that aegis ignores your request, because some paths listed don't belong to your package (applauncherd) or are not executable (the upstart script) | 00:37 |
| * MohammadAG tries again | 00:38 | |
| MohammadAG | but I checked restok.conf | 00:38 |
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| gabriel9 | evening | 01:19 |
| gabriel9 | why can't i use QNetworkAccessManager in my app | 01:20 |
| gabriel9 | i need some class for XML parsing and getting | 01:20 |
| gabriel9 | data from server | 01:20 |
| gabriel9 | and i try to write it in C++ | 01:21 |
| Elleo | gabriel9: what's stopping you from using QNetworkAccessManager? | 01:22 |
| gabriel9 | on compile it complains that there is no souch directory | 01:24 |
| Elleo | did you add it to the .pro file? | 01:24 |
| Elleo | oh no, you shouldn't need to fo qnetworkaccessmanager actually | 01:25 |
| Elleo | are you sure you're importing the header correctly? | 01:25 |
| Elleo | it's #include <QtNetwork/QNetworkAccessManager> not just <QNetworkAccessManager> | 01:25 |
| gabriel9 | wait while i try that :) | 01:26 |
| Elleo | although maybe if you add "network" to the .pro file it might add QtNetwork to the include paths or something | 01:26 |
| gabriel9 | well one year ago i created feed reader for myself | 01:26 |
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| gabriel9 | but now when i try to use some code in my app for N9 it does not work | 01:27 |
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| gabriel9 | i forgot alot :( | 01:27 |
| Elleo | well this uses qnetworkmanager without any issues, so feel free to just copy what I do: https://gitorious.org/eyrie/eyrie/trees/master/src | 01:27 |
| Elleo | qnetworkaccessmanager* | 01:27 |
| gabriel9 | is that app for songs? | 01:29 |
| gabriel9 | to get name and that stuff | 01:29 |
| Elleo | yeah | 01:29 |
| gabriel9 | nice app :) | 01:29 |
| Elleo | thanks :) | 01:29 |
| gabriel9 | N9 have some really apps now | 01:30 |
| ieatlint | haha, my app in ovi got a bad review... the app, while only released in english and labeled explicitly for north america, got a 1 star review in russian stating the "The application is not for Russia" | 01:30 |
| Elleo | heh | 01:30 |
| ieatlint | nokia store comments are like reading youtube comments | 01:30 |
| Elleo | ovi reviews are terrible | 01:30 |
| Elleo | yeah | 01:30 |
| gabriel9 | yes | 01:30 |
| gabriel9 | i never read them | 01:31 |
| Elleo | I have a one star review in russian that according to google translate just says "I don't know what this does" | 01:31 |
| gabriel9 | :D | 01:31 |
| ieatlint | eh, it's a free app, so it's not hurting me and i'm just laughing | 01:31 |
| ieatlint | hehe, yeah, another app of mine has reviews in russian that claim i'm stealing credit card numbers | 01:31 |
| Elleo | :/ | 01:32 |
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| ieatlint | damn russians :P | 01:32 |
| ieatlint | next time i publish an app i'll specify it shouldn't be distributed in russia | 01:32 |
| Elleo | for some reason my statusnet client gets most of its downloads in Saudi Arabia | 01:32 |
| Elleo | I'm not sure if there's some secret Saudi statusnet install that I'm unaware of or what | 01:32 |
| Elleo | but they're certainly not using it for identi.ca | 01:33 |
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| ieatlint | yeah, i get a lot of downloads from there aswell | 01:33 |
| Elleo | I guess some people just download everything | 01:34 |
| gabriel9 | i do some research about mobile apps and people are just strange | 01:34 |
| gabriel9 | they like to install apps | 01:34 |
| gabriel9 | if it's free they will install it, even when they don't need it :) | 01:35 |
| * ieatlint shrugs | 01:35 | |
| ieatlint | guess it doesn't hurt their phone | 01:35 |
| gabriel9 | i don't have many apps | 01:36 |
| gabriel9 | i need to create some for my needs :/ | 01:37 |
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| ieatlint | that's basically what i do, and then i get around to polishing them on occasion and publish them | 01:37 |
| gabriel9 | that's nice, problem with me is that C++ is not my number one language :/ | 01:39 |
| gabriel9 | web developer... | 01:39 |
| Elleo | you could do something with cortardo (phonegap), some people might yell at you though :P | 01:39 |
| gabriel9 | i yell on my colegue becouse of it :D | 01:40 |
| Elleo | heh | 01:40 |
| gabriel9 | i always say use native | 01:40 |
| gabriel9 | ping frals | 01:42 |
| gabriel9 | he is not here, so any of you plays Diablo 3 | 01:43 |
| gabriel9 | is it worth that money? | 01:44 |
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| ieatlint | yeah, i prefer native... still on the fence about the whole qml thing | 01:49 |
| gabriel9 | Qml is better then XML | 01:51 |
| gabriel9 | and it is nice idea | 01:51 |
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| gabriel9 | just to fix that Design stuff | 01:52 |
| gabriel9 | people like to draw stuff, not to write code | 01:52 |
| gabriel9 | and for me only thing that is missing is working debugger and N950, that are two things :D | 01:53 |
| ieatlint | i'm told the qml debugger actually works.. never tried | 01:55 |
| ieatlint | but qml is costly.. i mean, it works, but still costly | 01:56 |
| ieatlint | qml2 is a lot better | 01:56 |
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| ieatlint | but i have to admit that keeping the logic out of it seems better, as things like efl's edje and even wp7's xaml do | 01:56 |
| gabriel9 | well i always try to break stuff in Model-View | 01:57 |
| gabriel9 | if you do any web stuff you would see that MVC is life saver | 01:57 |
| gabriel9 | qml2 i did not try, i hope it will come to N9 | 01:57 |
| gabriel9 | if it's good like you said | 01:59 |
| ieatlint | well technically it's on the n9, but it'll never be supported | 02:00 |
| gabriel9 | if nokia is smart they would give OS to comunity and create device for it | 02:02 |
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| gabriel9 | new template for Harmattan project | 02:03 |
| gabriel9 | nice :) | 02:03 |
| gabriel9 | with some header code | 02:04 |
| gabriel9 | night guys | 02:06 |
| gabriel9 | need to get some sleap before work | 02:07 |
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| theo | Hi, I'm trying to open one application when a headset is connected, is there a way to detect when there's a headset (bt, or wired) connected? | 03:57 |
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| theo | I found some code for bt, but nothing for the wired headset | 03:58 |
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| admiral0 | hello | 11:02 |
| admiral0 | i've got commhistoryd exploding | 11:02 |
| admiral0 | database is corrupted and it won't save messages | 11:03 |
| admiral0 | deleting .commhistoryd and hard resetting tracker didn't solve | 11:03 |
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| * ArkanoiD_ wishes the asshole who desided to store everything in tracker database gets testicle cancer | 13:29 | |
| ArkanoiD_ | decided even | 13:29 |
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| rigo | ArkanoiD_, you can continue your wishes with KDE and Akonadi | 13:32 |
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| ArkanoiD_ | don't know how it works with KDE (on desktop my PIM is outlook under crossover because all linux PIMs i've seen so far are miserable failures) | 13:55 |
| ArkanoiD_ | but for harmattan tracker-store basically needs you have non-stoping fsckups and glitches and there is no even dump/restore utility to restore database integrity | 13:56 |
| ArkanoiD_ | when it was sqlite, yuo could at least dump and restore data | 13:56 |
| ArkanoiD_ | now you have no idea why merging two contacts makes tracker-store eat 100% cpu forever, or why receiving this particular message prevents phone from receiving messages forever, or why this contact picture never appears or why this particular contact constantly drops out of merge or why that contact cannot be looked up etc etc | 13:57 |
| ArkanoiD_ | damn it sucks like supersonic jet turbofan | 13:59 |
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| djszapi | beford: ping | 14:23 |
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| cvp_ | hello @all | 14:23 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, still here? | 14:23 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: yep | 14:23 |
| Sazpaimon | okay great | 14:23 |
| Sazpaimon | im taking you up on your offer of helping me with some account related questions | 14:24 |
| mardy | :-) | 14:24 |
| Sazpaimon | baically, I have an account that you need to sign in with with just a standard username and password, then it will either work, or send back a message saying to check your email for an access code | 14:25 |
| djszapi | mardy: how is lifey ? | 14:25 |
| cvp_ | can someone tell me if you consume more power if dev mode is on ? | 14:25 |
| Sazpaimon | if you get the email, you need to put in that access code along with your username and password, and it will need to be entered each time you log in | 14:25 |
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| Sazpaimon | once it's logging in, it will add a telepathy account | 14:26 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: OK | 14:26 |
| Sazpaimon | so my question is, what's the proper code path to use for this | 14:26 |
| mardy | djszapi: all OK, no news is good news :-) | 14:26 |
| Sazpaimon | and also, best practices | 14:26 |
| Sazpaimon | because I assume doing all this in the accounts-ui code isn't really ideal | 14:27 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: are there any ways to change this authentication method, so that it won't send you an e-mail but do something else? | 14:27 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, nope | 14:27 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: no alternatives? | 14:27 |
| Sazpaimon | you can turn it off, but that's it | 14:27 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: how does the service know your e-mail address? | 14:28 |
| Sazpaimon | you give it to them when you sign up | 14:28 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: via the website? | 14:28 |
| Sazpaimon | (and activate your account with it) | 14:28 |
| Sazpaimon | correct | 14:28 |
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| mardy | Sazpaimon: tricky, I'm afraid there's no way you can automate this; I guess that the account plugin should show a waiting screen, with the intructions, and a link to the e-mail application | 14:31 |
| Sazpaimon | there's no way to know the email address associated with the account when the code is requested | 14:31 |
| Sazpaimon | that's hidden | 14:31 |
| cvp_ | sry. have anyone answer for my question? | 14:31 |
| Sazpaimon | cvp_, maybe running an ssh daemon will cause a tiny bit more power to be consumed | 14:32 |
| Sazpaimon | but probably not really | 14:32 |
| cvp_ | ok thanks :) | 14:32 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, where should the code that handles checking the auth code and user details go? Do I need to make a signon plugin for that? | 14:33 |
| djszapi | cvp_: IOW, 0.0000001% addition | 14:33 |
| cvp_ | ok, | 14:34 |
| djszapi | if you wanna save power, I would recommend the suspend modes, but probably not hackable with aegis | 14:34 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: once you get the code, will it work forever, or will you have to renew it from time to time? | 14:34 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, my understanding i it will work for a long, long time | 14:34 |
| Sazpaimon | forever, I'm not sure | 14:34 |
| Sazpaimon | maybe if you don't log in for a while, it will expire | 14:35 |
| cvp_ | and is the wlan modul ever on? can i deactivate the wlan modul completly? or is there a toggle app what can do that? | 14:35 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: will you write a new telepathy connection manager, or can you reuse an existing one? | 14:36 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, undecided on that, there's already a libpurple plugin for the service, but that would require haze and would make distributing on the N9 difficult | 14:37 |
| Sazpaimon | the protocol itself is relatively simple, so writing a new connection manager with telepathy wouldn't be difficult | 14:38 |
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| mardy | Sazpaimon: to access the service, do you need just the code, or also some other information (username again?) | 14:39 |
| mardy | ? | 14:39 |
| mjrosenb | I have an n9, but I cannot install the dev tools, but it keeps giving me a connection reset | 14:40 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, you need to re-sign in with your username and password with the access code | 14:41 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: I wonder why they need the password again... | 14:42 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: anyway, you could do it in several ways, but I'd opt for writing a SSO plugin | 14:42 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, well, it treats the "access code requires" as a "login failed" | 14:42 |
| Sazpaimon | so it logs you out immediately | 14:42 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: the SSO plugin would be used by your account plugin (when registering the account) and by your connection manager (to get the username, pw and code) | 14:43 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: when your connection manager cannot login anymore (the code has expired), it can ask the SSO plugin to issue a new code | 14:44 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: then the user will get the e-mail, and hopefully understand that he has to update the code into the account plugin | 14:44 |
| Sazpaimon | there would be no way to show that to the end-user though would there | 14:45 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: it would be nice if it were possible to add some extra text to the e-mail message, to explain to the user what he should do | 14:45 |
| Sazpaimon | it would just show "incorrect login" on the account status screen | 14:45 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: I'm afraid that the presence applet only uses error codes | 14:45 |
| mjrosenb | I saw a link in here that said I needed to get some connection tools | 14:46 |
| mjrosenb | but the link is broken | 14:46 |
| mjrosenb | and by "in here", I mean in the logs | 14:46 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: well, it would be a bit hackish, but your CM could sinthesize an instant messaging message to the user, explaining the issue :-) | 14:46 |
| Sazpaimon | could it be set up where when the user goes to modify their account, it will check if the code is valid, then display the email message to them? | 14:47 |
| Sazpaimon | i assume the first thing a user does when they see that message is try to set their password again in the account plugin | 14:47 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: no, because the account plugin wouldn't know how to get that e-mail in the first place | 14:47 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, I mean the "check your email" message | 14:47 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: oh, yes, this is indeed possible | 14:48 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: but maybe not easily discoverable (for the non tech user) | 14:49 |
| cvp_ | no idea about wlan module ? :( | 14:49 |
| Sazpaimon | also, another potential issue is portability, if the telepathy CM is linked to SSO, that mean it can only ever be used on an N9, right? | 14:49 |
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| mardy | Sazpaimon: at the moment, yes :-) But you could easily toggle the dependency at compile time | 14:50 |
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| Sazpaimon | also, correct me if I'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be a great deal of doccumentation regarding making account manager UIs with meegotouch | 14:51 |
| Sazpaimon | mostly because the already existing account plugins don't have any of their source opened up | 14:51 |
| Sazpaimon | seems the easy route would be to just make the account plugin all qml-based | 14:54 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: I do actually recommend you to write the account plugin in QML | 15:01 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, is that just because of the complexity and lack of documentation of the meegotouch plugins? | 15:03 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: mostly lack of documentation. | 15:05 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah, its a shame that nokia doesn't open source any of their UI stuff | 15:08 |
| matrixx | has someone tried to add event with alarm using qt organizer api? | 15:13 |
| matrixx | my event doesn't show up in the calendar, even though save operation returns true, do I have to do something special to flush the event? | 15:14 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, regarding having the CM use SSO, its my understanding that the telepathy-qt cannot create CMs, and signon-glib is also sparsely documented | 15:14 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: I don't know about telepathy-qt; signon-glib might not be documented extensively, but I know it rather well | 15:15 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, do you have any sample plugins available? | 15:18 |
| Sazpaimon | actually, a quick google gave me https://launchpad.net/signon-glib-google-demo | 15:19 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: that's not a plugin; wait, let me find something... | 15:20 |
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| mardy | Sazpaimon: https://gitorious.org/web2sms/web2sms/trees/master | 15:25 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: mainly the "accountsetup" directory | 15:25 |
| Sazpaimon | wait, this looks like an account plugin, not an SSO plugin | 15:28 |
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| mardy | Sazpaimon: yes, I thought you were looking for that. A simple SSO plugin is here: http://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/source/browse/?repo=signond#git%2Fsrc%2Fplugins%2Fpassword | 15:30 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: a more complex one (but complete with all its qmake stuff) is here: http://code.google.com/p/accounts-sso/source/browse?repo=signon-plugin-sasl | 15:30 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: note that the signon version they depend on is a bit more advanced than that in the N9, but there shouldn't be substantial differences | 15:31 |
| Sazpaimon | mardy, what about signon-glib based plugins? | 15:32 |
| mardy | Sazpaimon: signon-glib and signon-qt are just client libraries, you don't use those to write plugins | 15:33 |
| Sazpaimon | got it | 15:33 |
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| matrixx | weird, seems that if I create an event for tomorrow, it shows up in the calendar, but if for this day, it doesn't show up | 15:40 |
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