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| tom___ | Is it possible to delete the default wallpapers. It annoys me that I can't seem to get rid of them. | 00:44 |
| ajalkane | tom___: ~/.wallpapers ? | 00:45 |
| tom___ | that doesn't seem to exist (I just cleared my n9) ~/MyDocs/.wallpapers exists, but is empty | 00:46 |
| ajalkane | I have stuff in ~/.wallpapers, but it can of course be something from previous PRs. But I do remember the wallpapers are in some pretty easily accessible place... | 00:48 |
| tom___ | I know that things I put in there will show up as available wallpapers. The default ones don't seem to be there though. I will keep searching though. | 00:49 |
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| ieatlint | this error makes me want to stab "dpkg: status database area is locked by another process" ... i see it far too often | 02:36 |
| ieatlint | stupid auto-update checker that runs for like 10min | 02:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol yeah | 02:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: normally you can fix that by killall pkgmgrd and wait for it to terminate | 02:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it won't actually exit until it finishes everything it was doing (normally it's doing nothing so it exits quickly) | 02:38 |
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| tgalal | MohammadAG: ping | 02:49 |
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| ieatlint | itsnotabigtruck: i'm just going to turn it into a drinking game | 02:53 |
| ieatlint | every time i get it, i take a shot | 02:53 |
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| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck has been ignoring me | 03:24 |
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| ZogG_laptop | testtt | 03:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | s/testtt/test | 03:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | why bot doesn't correct me? | 03:56 |
| virtuald | i can't install anything in the ovi store any longer, there's just a download button that does nothing. have you guys had that happen? | 03:58 |
| SpeedEvil | s/revealed/uncovered/ | 03:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | SpeedEvil: you broke the bot | 03:59 |
| virtuald | s/i /I/ | 03:59 |
| infobot | virtuald meant: Ican't install anything in the ovi store any longer, there's just a download button that does nothing. have you guys had that happen? | 03:59 |
| virtuald | doh | 04:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | virtuald: =( | 04:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | s/\(/\) | 04:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | s/(/) | 04:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | stupid bot | 04:01 |
| virtuald | pkgmgr install -p firefox says there's no such package. no fennec either | 04:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | s/(/)/ | 04:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | s/bot/b0t/ | 04:02 |
| infobot | ZogG_laptop meant: stupid b0t | 04:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh | 04:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | now i get | 04:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | tgalal: ^ even bot knows | 04:02 |
| virtuald | maybe i accidentally the apt source, what do you got? | 04:04 |
| tgalal | ZogG_laptop: lol so everybody knows | 04:04 |
| virtuald | found thread on talk now | 04:04 |
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| virtuald | i removed firefox earlier as it failed to update along with a few other apps | 04:05 |
| virtuald | i think elop is toying with us | 04:06 |
| virtuald | :/ | 04:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~ping | 04:08 |
| infobot | ~pong | 04:08 |
| virtuald | Did I miss some great drama that made Stskeeps leave this channel? | 04:08 |
| virtuald | ~pong | 04:08 |
| infobot | ~ping | 04:08 |
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| virtuald | yay i found some lego! :D | 04:11 |
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| artemma | Has anybody used GStreamer together with Qt? | 11:40 |
| artemma | I am trying to evaluate options for GMainLoop and QApplication even loop coexistence. Options that I could see so far are: call one event loop processing from another one; use multithreading; create two separate binaries | 11:40 |
| artemma | anybody has experience to share? | 11:41 |
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| mankeli | i don't think you need to use gmainloop with gstreamer | 12:20 |
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| mankeli | at least i don't | 12:20 |
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| mankeli | http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/modules/qt-gstreamer.html | 12:21 |
| artemma | hmm.. | 12:26 |
| artemma | what I just tried is to use only QApplication's main loop and that's it | 12:26 |
| artemma | seems to work fine, yet example seems to be misbehaving more often (e.g. not transitting skype video to the other side) | 12:27 |
| artemma | trying ti understand if it's random behavior of not that good example code or side effect of merging the loops | 12:27 |
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| mankeli | doesn't qt come with internal support for the camera also | 12:40 |
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| artemma | mankeli: I thought only in qtmobility | 12:48 |
| mankeli | well qtmobility then. isn't that enough? | 12:48 |
| mankeli | i would be a bit scared of trying to merge two beasts like qt and glib | 12:49 |
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| mankeli | altho i used gstreamer to decompress h264 to opengl (in sdl-application) and it didn't need any gmainloops | 12:50 |
| mankeli | apparenty gstreamer spawns several threads which run kind of autonymously | 12:50 |
| artemma | yeah, that's what seems to happen | 12:55 |
| artemma | trying | 12:55 |
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| phako | artemma: On Linux the Qt event loop usually is based on the glib event loop. | 13:02 |
| artemma | rhx, phako | 13:02 |
| phako | artemma: though beware that it can be compiled without | 13:02 |
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| tgalal | SpeedEvil: ping | 13:14 |
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| sledges | ~update | 17:42 |
| infobot | hmm... update is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 | 17:42 |
| sledges | ~aegis-no-thanks | 17:43 |
| infobot | aegis-no-thanks is, like, http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/ | 17:43 |
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| mankeli | ~help | 17:53 |
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| tgalal | ZogG: ping | 19:10 |
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| artemma | I added one of my N9's to Finnish auction. Black one, 16GB, untouched. Starting price - just 75 eur and very short sales period - just three days. | 19:51 |
| artemma | http://www.huuto.net/kohteet/uusi-nokia-n9-musta/222488568 | 19:51 |
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| artemma | just FYI - here may be people interested in N9s for cheaper | 19:51 |
| * Shaan7 's N9 got stolen, sadly he's in India :P | 19:52 | |
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| artemma | oh, I can send it anywhere, posting to India can be just a bit too expensive for a recipient :) | 19:56 |
| petteri | so how is my offer for the N950 holding on, has anyone topped it? | 19:58 |
| Shaan7 | artemma: yea and talking to the customs duty guys in India is harder than buying a phone :P | 19:58 |
| artemma | Shaan7: indeed | 19:59 |
| artemma | petteri: Not giving N950 out for 200 eur (if I remember your offer correctly) | 19:59 |
| artemma | will probably try selling it for higher price first | 19:59 |
| petteri | artemma: ah, ok. Thought it was the starting price | 19:59 |
| artemma | petteri: me too, but I have some sort of actual minimal price in mind :) | 20:00 |
| petteri | so what is it then? | 20:00 |
| artemma | for 500 eur I would give it out today | 20:02 |
| artemma | for less I'll probably try arranging a proper auction somewhere fist | 20:02 |
| artemma | and if it fails, then I'll think | 20:02 |
| hahlo | how much nokia ask them in meego meetings? | 20:03 |
| petteri | 0eur :) | 20:03 |
| petteri | at least here in hki | 20:03 |
| petteri | but refused as i was not going to build anything for the opensource community ;) | 20:04 |
| petteri | hopefully it went to better use | 20:04 |
| hahlo | petteri: rehellinen mies | 20:05 |
| artemma | I used my N950 for building 3 apps (+a couple of options) and one of the apps was downloaded 40K times. I just don't need it anymore - went off harmattan development | 20:06 |
| hahlo | petteri: voiko msg? | 20:10 |
| petteri | hahlo: ok | 20:10 |
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| hiemanshu | Shaan7: just get the person sending it to set a price of <10k and send it as gift, I got loads of stuff worth thousands of $$$ that way :P | 20:21 |
| hiemanshu | Shaan7: and use FeDex/DHL, they do the talking part for you :P | 20:22 |
| Shaan7 | hiemanshu: hehe, well once the softwarefreedom foundation sent us promo material, it was stopped at chennai and then held at bangalore for couple of *weeks* | 20:22 |
| Shaan7 | even when the packet said that its "educational use only" | 20:23 |
| Shaan7 | and it was fedex, and they didnt give a damn | 20:23 |
| petteri | I have also done some little apps for n9 with qml (pinkit for example). Does anyone know if qml only apps could be ported easily to Nokia 808? | 20:23 |
| hiemanshu | Shaan7: well most of the stuff I got came through without my intervention, just once I had to go to the customs office to sign off that my phone was a cheap chinese rip off and was only worth 4k | 20:23 |
| Shaan7 | hiemanshu: nice :) | 20:24 |
| hiemanshu | petteri: it runs symbian belle, so yeah, should be possible | 20:24 |
| hiemanshu | Shaan7: and that was an iPhone :P | 20:24 |
| petteri | hiemanshu: do you know if I can easily deploy to 808 from linux as with N9, or do I need windows machine for that? | 20:25 |
| hiemanshu | petteri: I know Qt Creator can do it just fine from linux | 20:26 |
| hiemanshu | petteri: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtcreator-2.4/creator-developing-symbian.html | 20:26 |
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| petteri | hiemanshu: it says: "Make sure that Ovi Suite or PC Suite is installed on the development PC" | 20:27 |
| petteri | i don't think there are ovi suite or PC suite for linux | 20:27 |
| hiemanshu | petteri: thats if you want to debug on the device, then yes you need windows, as ovi suite is needed to install the .sis file on the device | 20:29 |
| MohammadAG | <artemma> petteri: Not giving N950 out for 200 eur (if I remember your offer correctly) | 20:30 |
| MohammadAG | <artemma> will probably try selling it for higher price first | 20:30 |
| MohammadAG | who says you could sell it | 20:30 |
| petteri | hiemanshu: ok, nice. I will try google some more info | 20:30 |
| hiemanshu | petteri: well, it can compile the whole thing into a .sis that you can then install on the device, also the simulator works just fine for most stuff | 20:31 |
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| petteri | my laptops intel driver does not cooperate with the simulator | 20:33 |
| petteri | so I cannot use it | 20:33 |
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| hiemanshu | petteri: what distro? I know some distros work with the simulator/intel drivers and some done | 20:34 |
| hiemanshu | dont* | 20:34 |
| petteri | i use debian, but kernel and driver are from upstream. It is know bug in qtsdk, it got something to do with the 3D stuff | 20:35 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | just to make sure: pr1.3 still isn't out, right? | 21:38 |
| petteri | right | 21:39 |
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| MohammadAG | why QML sucks and MTF rocks :p http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7S4b0kGiAw | 22:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: cool cool cool | 22:51 |
| petteri | i have also noticed that some apps take quite long time to start. I have had problems with my apps. For example Pinkit starts under 5 secs | 22:54 |
| petteri | no problems :D | 22:55 |
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| ZogG_laptop | petteri: it's your app right? | 22:59 |
| petteri | it is | 22:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | petteri: nice | 23:05 |
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| petteri | thanks :) | 23:05 |
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| artemma | anybody here has experience with gstreamer/farsight? | 23:21 |
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| rzr | why ? have u some issue ? | 23:28 |
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| artemma | rzr: two things actually | 23:33 |
| artemma | 1. I am banging my head at skype's gstreamer example trying to understand how to replace fsusink with the sink I need | 23:33 |
| artemma | 2. I am always looking for skilled engineers for our startup in helsinki and gstreamer/farstream are some of the desired skill areas :) | 23:34 |
| artemma | fsuvideosink I mean | 23:35 |
| rzr | well this is something interessing . but i would search in other place for finish talented programmers | 23:38 |
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| rzr | wait i tell you | 23:39 |
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| rzr | artemma, http://summit.devaamo.fi/ | 23:42 |
| artemma | rzr: unfortunately I am busy exactly on that day | 23:43 |
| artemma | otherwise I'd be there for sure | 23:43 |
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| rzr | artemma, do u think it would be possible to reuse the skype blob in a qemu arm env ? | 23:54 |
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