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ZogG_laptoptgalal_: ping03:03
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: updated to 0.2 and now i get error MApplicationService registerServie() regiteing failed03:05
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: because of update ?03:09
tgalal_when launching wazapp?03:09
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: yes03:11
ZogG_laptopnew splash is nice, btw there were few nice themes there in thread, maybe themes should be inmplentened as separete files, so more could be added (after adding setting )03:12
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: themes are the last thing I'd currently think about :P03:13
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: any ideas what might be my problem?03:17
ZogG_laptopneed more lines?03:17
ZogG_laptopi would paaste them03:17
ZogG_laptopit actually opens, i saw it, and crashes03:17
ZogG_laptoplike for less than second i see chats screen03:17
tgalal_yeah could u send more output from terminal?03:18
itsnotabigtrucktgalal_: now how about publishing the sauce :p03:18
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: ^03:18
tgalal_itsnotabigtruck: it's gonna be this week03:18
itsnotabigtruckoh, cool03:18
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: yeah, gonna paste, you want all of it or only last lines?03:18
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: yeah all03:19
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: btw i see telepathy stuff releated to my jabber account in log o_O03:19
itsnotabigtruckhow likely do you guys think it is for PR1.3 to be released the coming week03:20
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: maybe for n950 but don't think so03:20
itsnotabigtruckwell, it has to be soon\03:20
itsnotabigtruckrumor was before the end of may03:20
itsnotabigtruckwhich sounds about right03:20
itsnotabigtruckso we're basically talking about in the next 2 weeks, maybe the next 3 weeks03:20
itsnotabigtruckthat means tomorrow is in the realm of possibility03:21
itsnotabigtrucki doubt they're going to do a release for N950 first, that was a one-time deal with PR1.203:21
* SpeedEvil imagines 1.3 being released with a huge global marketing campaign, and flash.03:21
SpeedEvilAfter Nokia buys Flash from Adobe.03:22
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: it was always n950 nd than n903:22
itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: the only time since the N9 was released that the N950 has lead the N9 in updates was PR1.203:23
itsnotabigtruckand even then, they never actually released the final PR1.2 build for the N95003:23
itsnotabigtruckchances are it'll be one of the 21st, 22nd, 28th, or 29th this month03:24
itsnotabigtruckfor N9 and maybe N95003:24
itsnotabigtruckbut who knows how they'll handle the N950 release, because they keep changing that03:25
ZogG_laptopi can't ssh as a user to N9 right?03:30
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: wait... it's long one03:30
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: though i see qml error there as well, don't think it's the one related but still03:30
ElleoZogG_laptop: you can ssh as developer and then become user via devel-su03:30
ZogG_laptopElleo: oh, i tried sith su user :P03:31
Elleodo just "devel-su" first to become root, then "devel-su user"03:31
ZogG_laptopElleo: it asks for password :)03:31
Elleothat's why you do it via root03:31
ZogG_laptopnot sure if i want to change my user password03:31
Elleothen you don't need a password03:32
itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: do it AFTER BECOMING ROOT03:32
itsnotabigtruckno need to set a user password03:32
itsnotabigtruckso do devel-su twice03:32
itsnotabigtruckor do this: devel-su -c 'devel-su user'03:33
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: maybe we try with last part of log first03:33
tgalal_tgalal_: and don't run it as root03:33
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: ^03:34
tgalal_I know I need to sleep when I start sending messages to myself03:34
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: "I don't often send msgs to myself — but when i do i touch myself as well"03:39
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: MApplicationService: registerService() registering failed03:43
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: did you try reboot ?03:43
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: nope03:45
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: trying now03:46
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: i didn't reboot during first install btw03:46
ZogG_laptopwhile it's rebooting gonna grab cig and coke03:47
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: hmmm, it worked03:48
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: see, I'm awesome03:49
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: btw when you do next release can you add separetor to chats as well03:49
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: separator?03:50
ZogG_laptopslightly seen line for half screen size in middle03:51
ZogG_laptoplike the one that separets letters in contatcs list03:51
ZogG_laptopbut better to make it not full width size03:51
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: and in about - you don't need close button03:52
ZogG_laptopbut if you leave it, than at least move it little bit lower03:53
ZogG_laptopas well as few screens you could lock to portrait only, like about and maybe few sync03:53
tgalal_ZogG_laptop:  do you have wazapp opened?03:55
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: one more thing btw, the toolbar in botom, hide it in conversation and add back button to top one03:56
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tgalal_ZogG_laptop: cool, queued those for 0.2.4 update03:57
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: meanwhile, would u like to test auto update?03:57
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: why not03:57
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: do i need to do something (can't see any option) or it would notify me03:58
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tgalal_ZogG_laptop: disconnect, reconnect03:58
ZogG_laptopclose/open you mean?03:58
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: no just the network03:59
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: it checks once connected03:59
ZogG_laptopblack screen and when going to details i see the full changelog04:00
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: why don't you integrate it as notification or something, or it's not allowed by api?04:00
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: such an awesome idea!04:01
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: i love you man EMOJI04:01
tgalal_no sending yet04:01
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: btw would it show retroactivy?04:01
tgalal_retro what?04:01
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: those that were sent before i updated?04:02
ZogG_laptopgonna check it04:02
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: i think you are hero of meego for this month =)04:03
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: ask in competition forum if you can perticapate04:03
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tgalal_ZogG_laptop: oh there is a competition forum?04:04
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: i have a great idea how you can troll Nokia04:04
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: meego competition with n9 and n950 prices04:04
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: nowi see udate button and menu is nicer and it didn't went back to black theme =P04:07
imunsieZogG_laptop: "i can't ssh as a user to N9 right?" <- Of course you can, either set a password on the user account or add your ssh key to authorized_keys04:07
imunsieOnly reason it doesn't work out of the box is because the user account doesn't have a password and PermitEmptyPasswords=no04:08
ZogG_laptopimunsie: meh, resolved it04:08
ZogG_laptopimunsie: i'm linux user myself, just afraid to change user password as i don't know harmattan that wel so it might break things and all the limited bash =(04:09
imunsieno, nothing breaks if user has a password04:10
imunsieat least, nothing I've come accross04:10
ZogG_laptopimunsie: there are things you don't touch if yoou don't understand04:10
imunsiebest way to learn is to break it & fix it :)04:11
ZogG_laptopimunsie: with root privilage comes great responsobility spiderman04:11
ZogG_laptopimunsie: yeah it took me night when i updated to pr1.2 manualy by changing repo to global and manually reinstalling meta packages and resolving conflicts04:11
ZogG_laptopfor my luck when half of screen and things didn't work terminal was still running (did it on the phone)04:12
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: negative, can't see emoji, at least i think it's emoji, as my gf sent it to me and i got square symbol04:13
imunsieI generally try to minimise the amount of crap I install04:13
ZogG_laptopimunsie: it's working nice now04:13
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imunsieI remember similar conflicts upgrading the N800 due to copious amounts of crap installed and conflicting04:13
ZogG_laptopimunsie: the prs are just metapackages like in bubuntu u have xubuntu and kubuntu, it's just meta package04:13
ZogG_laptopimunsie: install gentoo on n80004:14
ZogG_laptopfrom n900 you can even make calls with gentoo =P04:14
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: that's not possible04:14
imunsielol, never got into the gentoo thing04:14
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: not possible what?04:14
ZogG_laptopgentoo orr emoji?04:15
imunsieI've migrated between lots of distros, but once I found Debian I never looked back04:15
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: emoji04:15
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: she has BB maybe they are lightly different04:15
imunsieWell, there WAS that whole affair with Ubuntu, but it kept breaking my heart04:15
imunsieerr, box04:15
ZogG_laptopcan't test now as i have no whatsapp friend awake with emoji =\04:15
ZogG_laptopimunsie: i tried ubuntu on laptop maybe 7 times04:16
ZogG_laptopdidn't last a week04:16
ZogG_laptopsame with arch04:16
ZogG_laptopalways going back to gentoo04:16
ZogG_laptopthough now it's funtoo04:16
tgalal_oh a gentoo friend04:18
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: you too?04:18
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: yeah04:18
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: gonna go funtoo on Desktop too soon04:18
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: Daniel Robbins is my fcebook friend, now you can touch me04:19
imunsieI always wanted to try gentoo because of how much you are supposed to learn by doing it, but now that I've been hacking on the kernel for a couple of years doing quite low level stuff - including porting the kernel to little endian PPC and having to build and fix my own tool chain + libc for that... I'm not sure how much there is left from gentoo for me to learn, other than gentoo itself04:20
imunsiespeaking of own kernels, I've been trying to dig up resources of the consequences of running an open mode kernel04:21
imunsieI noticed a mention of a bit set when an open mode kernel is booted the first time, and not cleared until a full reflash - but what, if anything, pays attention to that bit?04:22
ZogG_laptopimunsie: it's now everything about kernel, and i use gentoo not coz of learning04:22
ZogG_laptopit's just most logical system i tried04:22
imunsiefair enough04:22
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: — check screen in this post for black theme and source the post below04:24
imunsieI've used it in so far as using Koroora (which was originally a way for Chris to get his friends to try Gentoo without spending three days installing the system every time, not it's fedora based though), and boot CDs based on it (SystemRescueCD mostly)04:24
infobotimunsie meant: I've used it in so far as using Koroora (which was originally a way for Chris to get his friends to try Gentoo without spending three days installing the system every time, now it's fedora based though), and boot CDs based on it (SystemRescueCD mostly)04:25
tgalal_ZogG_laptop: yeah I like that, defintely will use04:25
tgalal_most probably in next version as well04:26
ZogG_laptopimunsie: Calculate is out of box, but that it ruines gentoo's idea04:26
ZogG_laptoptgalal_: =*04:26
ZogG_laptopstill wonder how we can try emoji04:26
befordthanks for hidding the statusbard tgalal_04:27
ZogG_laptoprussian keyboard in landscape is the best layout it's exactly filled with letters04:28
ZogG_laptopwhile english and hebrew have spaces04:28
tgalal_beford: something should be done about the top bar as well in landscape mode04:29
Sazpaimonhey tgalal_04:30
Sazpaimoncongrats on the release btw04:30
Sazpaimonhopefully the children will eventually settle down04:30
Sazpaimonexcept this guy:
tgalal_Sazpaimon: lol yeah, saw that04:31
tgalal_he sent me a PM04:31
tgalal_or maybe 204:31
beford83.33% are redy to suporting me04:32
beford6 users in poll and 83% of the community is with him :P fuck logic!04:33
SazpaimonTMO seriously needs better moderation04:34
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CreamyG31337"i'm just a customer care agent". i want to call and hang up on him like 11 times or however many posts he just made.05:55
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GeneralAntillesSazpaimon, hands-off moderation works better when the population of a forum isn't overwhelmed by morons. :\06:13
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SazpaimonGeneralAntilles, hands off moderation causes forums to become overwhelmed by morons06:32
GeneralAntillesI don't know that the causality follows quite like that06:33
GeneralAntillesIt worked fine for many years06:33
GeneralAntillesIt's the popularity of the platform that eventually caused the inundation06:33
GeneralAntillesthat and the failure to implement stricter policies at the time resulted in an atmosphere of acceptance of certain anti-social behaviors06:34
SazpaimonI think its the fact that the N900 has finally made its way into the hands of "everyone else"06:34
GeneralAntillesThat, and many of the core people have stopped caring or moved on.06:34
GeneralAntillesIt's tough to maintain a lot of high-quality interaction around what's effectively a dead platform.06:34
Sazpaimonthat usually goes hand in hand with the former06:35
Sazpaimoni noticed the same thing happen with S6006:35
GeneralAntillesWe survived the popularity explosions of the N800 and N81006:35
Sazpaimonwhen everyone moved on to S60v3 and even Symbian^3, there were still tons of people that still wanted people to support S60v206:35
Sazpaimonall  of them from far eastern europe and asia06:35
Sazpaimonmaybe it takes a lot of them that long to get a smartphone? I can't say06:36
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TMavica@tgalal ping07:07
TMavicai found what cause of the problem07:07
TMavicacheck tmo07:07
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befordhmm cammera is not responding08:14
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itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: how?08:53
itsnotabigtruckwell, if it's that great, better not say it here, lol08:53
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tradejhey, guys. can you tell me please where I can find the built-in twitter app's source/qml/anything? the reason i'm asking is that retweets don't work for me due to an error in the JSON query and I think it's pretty trivial to fix. thank you11:12
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petterion the device is best guess, it is not probably open source11:14
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petteriqneptunea is nice twitter client. I use it instead of the default one11:14
Aardtradej: the app is closed source, the qml files are included as resource in the binary -> you can't change anything11:15
tradejAard: damn11:15
tradejthanks tho11:15
tradejpetteri: thanks too, but i don't like qneptunea that much. i'm using it now tho11:17
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petterifirst one to say that :)11:18
petteriyou could try to copy the defualt twitter client to some other place, change the qml files and start it from the commandline11:18
tradejpetteri: i could, but the files are binary11:19
tradejif i had found the qml files, i wouldn't ask in the first place :)11:19
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petteriah, ok. I tought the bug was in the qml files11:19
tradejnot quite. i've got to say i hate closed source11:19
petteriyou could send patches to qneptunea then to make it better :)11:23
tradeji'm probably going to do that, but since i want qneptunea to be completely unlike what it's now, i might just as well fork it11:23
tradeji'll see what i'll do11:23
tradejbtw, does qneptunea show up in your 'share' menu, petteri?11:24
petterisadly no11:25
tradejso it's not just me11:25
tradeja-ha, qneptunea is built on a backend called twitter4qml11:26
tradejso i'll probably start my own app that looks much unlike qneptunea11:27
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Sazpaimon_so my N9 isn't creating /dev/media0 thus the camera doesnt seem to work12:21
Sazpaimon_any idea why12:21
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beford<beford> hmm cammera is not responding12:50
befordI did not bother to check though Sazpaimon_ .. just finished reflashing :P12:51
befordits working again12:51
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aquariuscan I exclude certain folders from the built-in N9 music player?14:27
mgedminaquarius, AFAIK you need to configure tracker to not index skip some folders; there's a hidden config file somewhere in /home/user -- I've never played with it actually...14:31
infobotmgedmin meant: aquarius, AFAIK you need to configure tracker to not index  some folders; there's a hidden config file somewhere in /home/user -- I've never played with it actually...14:32
aquariusmgedmin, ah, that sounds fiddly (and I don't really want tracker to ignore the folder entirely; I just want the music player to ignore it,and other apps to still use it). Ah well; I guess I'll live with audiobooks showing up in the player, then :14:32
mgedminyeah, it's annoying14:32
cityLightshow can I edit the sqlite that holds the email date? no sqlite package is available?14:33
infobotcityLights meant: how can I edit the sqlite that holds the email data? no sqlite package is available?14:34
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Morpoghi guys, anybody know how to reindex images? my gallery only show videos......15:19
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mankelidoes someone happen to know an answer to this: how to disable the screen saver in harmattan?15:46
mankeliwhen not using qt15:46
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MohammadAGis there a way when using Qt?16:30
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petteriat least when using qml16:33
MohammadAGwhich is?16:39
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MohammadAGlet's see16:57
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JaffaMohammadAG: Bedside does it16:59
MohammadAGmankeli, same way as Maemo 516:59
MohammadAGcalling an mce DBus method every 30s16:59
MohammadAGJaffa, correct ^?17:00
MohammadAGdbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply17:00 /com/nokia/mce/request17:00
MohammadAGdamn IRC17:00
MohammadAGevery 30s dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply /com/nokia/mce/request
MohammadAGI'd guess it needs an aegis token17:01
JaffaMohammadAG: There's an API for it17:01
JaffaMohammadAG: It needs an Aegis token17:01
MohammadAGJaffa, read above, he isn't using Qt17:01
JaffaMohammadAG: And it also has a bug whereby it breaks the lock code (fixed in Qt, but may not be shipped)17:01
JaffaMohammadAG: Indeed.17:02
MohammadAGJaffa, you good with color keys and Qt painting?17:02
MohammadAGmanual painting17:02
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JaffaMohammadAG: NAFAIK17:04
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JaffaMohammadAG: mankeli: To be aware of:
MohammadAGJaffa, know anyone who is? besides javispedro, he seems to be away nowadays17:05
RST38hMohammad: What is your question?17:07
MohammadAGRST38h, I need to overlay some controls over a video17:07
MohammadAGthe video is being painted by mafw using a color key17:08
MohammadAGthe same colorkey is being painted by an MStylableWidget17:08
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RST38hpaint in any color other than the color key17:09
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RST38hBecause the color key may well be processed at the hardware level17:09
MohammadAGbut the controls need to be transparent17:11
MohammadAGthis should produce something close to harmattan's stock player17:11
RST38hok, use the color key for controls background17:12
MohammadAGthat'd mean it's 100% transparent17:13
MohammadAGnot see-through17:13
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RST38hUse other colors for control edges, use color key for the background.17:15
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deramsemi-see-through is overrated. Microsoft moved away from glass like effects and other additional glare, just in news17:19
RST38hthis has nothing to do with video playback controls17:20
MohammadAGI need to use drawBackground, drawForeground, and drawContents17:23
MohammadAGbut I can't figure out how17:23
MohammadAGsadly, 3 applications do this, non seem to be open17:23
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RST38ha moment17:25
MohammadAGand MTF is as documented as... maemo in general17:26
RST38hwell they are just copying qgraphicsview17:26
RST38hhere is how it works there:17:26
RST38hthe drawing occurs in the drawBackground->drawContents->drawForeground order17:27
RST38hIf I understand correctly your video view has no foreground and no contents other than your playback UI17:27
RST38hAlso, I am assuming that the video itself is displayed by the hardware, in a different plane, using color key from your plane17:28
RST38hHence, all you need to do is clear whole view to color key in drawBackground()17:28
RST38hThen draw controls, this can be done in either of the functions really, even in drawBackground() itself17:28
RST38hDo not update the view on every video frame, as your plane is not going to change at all17:29
MohammadAGso drawBackground -> fill rect with colorkey, then draw controls?17:30
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RST38hMohammad: guess so17:32
MohammadAGso I need to figure out how to draw controls manually :p17:33
RST38hwhy is it a problem?17:34
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MohammadAGRST38h, I don't know how, given the controls transition17:52
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b0unc3guys, there is any way to call an upstart script from an application?19:09
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b0unc3djszapi: how? :)19:26
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mankeliMohammadAG: oh, i see. i wonder why it's not a x atom or something. :)19:32
MohammadAGmankeli: Conceptually you're right, it'd even work better, but since mce does the blanking and not the compositor it might cost more resources19:35
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djszapib0unc3: why not run as root ?19:54
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Sazpaimonso my N9 isn't creating /dev/media0 thus the camera doesnt seem to work21:32
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Sazpaimonis this a common thing?21:33
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StecchinoDoes anyone know if platform security could be interfering with QCA2 functionality?22:46
StecchinoI'm using libqoauth to sign messages using HMAC-SHA1 from libgca2-plugin-ossl. It's only working for developer and root users, not regular user22:47
Stecchinoquite a problem for making the app publishable22:47
mankelimaybe it needs proper credentials22:49
mankelitry running aegis-manifest in scratchbox22:50
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Stecchinomankeli: Not one of the API's that need credentials according to22:51
StecchinoBut I guess that can be wrong22:51
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StecchinoHere is the code that is failing:
Stecchinomankeli: only have a madde env set up right now. guess it can run from there to right?22:54
mankelii guess so22:54
mankelialtho qtcreator probably runs it automatically22:54
StecchinoI did have to add libqoauth and didn't yet properly package it.22:54
Stecchinowould expect that it wouldn't work under developer either if that was it22:55
Stecchinomadde runtime does not seem to have aegis-manifest22:55
mankelithen i don't know :)22:57
mankelisounds like a credentials problem anyway22:57
Stecchinoyeah, most likely.22:58
Stecchinolooks like I do have a scratchbox install around from way back when22:58
djszapiwhy does it sound like a credential problem ?22:59
djszapihave you checked syslog for verifying that guess ?22:59
Stecchinodjszapi: I'll do that23:00
djszapiHowever, unfortunately I have not dealt with Harmattan recently even if I do not expect too much security changes.23:01
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Stecchinodjszapi: nothing showing in /var/log/syslog when then QCA2 call fails23:05
djszapithen it is most likely not a permission issue.23:06
Stecchinothen I'm really stomped.23:06
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itsnotabigtruckStecchino: which call is failing23:41
itsnotabigtruckthat's the important part23:41
itsnotabigtruckand how is it failing23:41
itsnotabigtruckdoes qca provide error messages or codes of any sort23:42
itsnotabigtrucka lot of qt doesn't, which is kind of a problem23:42
Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: yes, there is an error reported which points to an internal crypto problem23:43
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Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: in any call using HMAC-SHA1 crypto method fails23:43
StecchinoPLAINTEXT didn't, but then the service does not work23:44
StecchinoHMAC_SHA1 is implemented in qca2-plugin-ossl23:44
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itsnotabigtruckStecchino: btw what's the application? the accounts system has some built-in oauth2 stuff23:47
itsnotabigtruckif at all possible, you should use that23:47
itsnotabigtruckthen it can work exactly like a native app, like twitter23:47
Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: I'm experimenting with some credentials in a custom manifest now23:47
itsnotabigtruckwhich credentials23:47
Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: I'm adding note sycnhronization to conboy2 (already in the ovi store)23:48
itsnotabigtruckfirst you should *not* add a manifest and isolate the credentials required23:48
itsnotabigtruckyou can do that with develsh -c 'aegis-exec -c -a cred1 -a cred2 -a cred3 ./program'23:48
itsnotabigtruckthat kind of thing23:48
Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: apscli pointed me to GID::crypto23:48
itsnotabigtruckwith develsh you can only add the ovi credentials23:48
itsnotabigtruckwith opensh you can add any credentials23:49
itsnotabigtruck(you need INCEPTION for that)23:49
Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: problem is that the crypto function only fails for user. Not developer nor root23:49
Stecchinoso develsh -c 'aegis-exec -c -a cred1 -a cred2 -a cred3 ./program' will always work23:49
itsnotabigtruckthen test it before you start screwing with the manifest and adding more variables23:50
itsnotabigtruckyou can run your program under any combination of user and credentials23:50
itsnotabigtruckbut i bet what you're actually doing is running under user with no credentials23:50
itsnotabigtruckand running under developer and root with ovi/dev credentials23:50
itsnotabigtruckyou can see what credentials you have with accli -I23:50
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itsnotabigtruckbut while i'm curious about what's wrong, you should really switch to the accounts system and the built-in oauth23:51
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Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: that would not solve it. I still need to sign each REST API request with a HMAC-SHA1 which accounts does not implement23:52
Stecchinoasked on #accounts-sso, so have it from the source.23:53
Stecchinowell, and actually read the source code as well23:53
Stecchinothere is signature functionality in there but it's not exposed23:53
itsnotabigtruckthere's a channel for that? anyway, hmm23:55
Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: what is the proper way to run as user? su - user fails with suid, so I guess there is harmattan way23:55
itsnotabigtruckuse devel-su instead of su23:55
itsnotabigtrucksame syntax23:55
Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: only Mardy and an intel guy on there23:55
Stecchinohmm, password?23:56
itsnotabigtruckwell, you could retrieve the oauth token data from signon, and then do the hmac stuff yourself, rather than using qoauth23:56
Stecchinowhy does user even have one23:56
itsnotabigtruckit doesn't23:56
itsnotabigtruckyou need to become root, then become user23:56
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Stecchinoitsnotabigtruck: is there a way to list all credentials possible?23:58

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