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| Arkenoi | hmm. irssi depends on libperl5.10, which cannot be found.. | 00:23 |
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| djszapi | bef0rd: o/ | 00:23 |
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| djszapi | Elleo: wth, now the invoker is crashing... :/ | 00:41 |
| djszapi | invoker: error: Can't send signal 7 to application [12058]: No such process | 00:41 |
| djszapi | Bus error (core dumped) | 00:41 |
| Elleo | heh | 00:42 |
| Elleo | is there a stale run file hanging around or something? | 00:42 |
| djszapi | it works as root though | 00:42 |
| djszapi | only not working as user | 00:42 |
| djszapi | not even after a reboot | 00:42 |
| Elleo | when its doing stuff in single launch mode it creates a run file containing the pid of the running process so it can bring the process to the foreground if you try launching it again | 00:42 |
| djszapi | I have seriously no clue... perhaps yet another platform pitfall. | 00:42 |
| Elleo | my guess would be that run file is still there | 00:43 |
| djszapi | yes, I have known that for 2-3 years by now. | 00:43 |
| djszapi | no it is not | 00:43 |
| djszapi | it is a brand new reboot | 00:43 |
| djszapi | andeven that, it should never ever crash. | 00:43 |
| djszapi | so it is totally broken from each pov. | 00:43 |
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| djszapi | ok in the end, I need to ignore splash screen. This invoker is hideous. :/ | 00:47 |
| djszapi | Elleo: do you have your phone by hand ? | 00:49 |
| djszapi | I wonder if it was crashing by you as well | 00:49 |
| Elleo | djszapi: sure, I can give it a try | 00:49 |
| djszapi | Elleo: http://minus.com/mbr8c3OblX/ | 00:50 |
| djszapi | it seems to me everything is crashing now in here ^^ | 00:51 |
| djszapi | Hopefully, it is just me, and runs fine on your end. | 00:51 |
| Elleo | or it'll start making everything crash for me ;) | 00:52 |
| jonni | why use 800x480, when display size is 856x480? | 00:53 |
| djszapi | jonni: because I used the background | 00:53 |
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| djszapi | and meanwhile the display size is 856x480, it is pointless with a toolbar anyway | 00:54 |
| jonni | ah yes, if you dont hide the toolbar | 00:54 |
| Elleo | djszapi: /opt/kanagram/bin/kanagram-harmattan: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 00:55 |
| Elleo | oh sorry | 00:55 |
| Elleo | I was running that in develsh | 00:55 |
| Elleo | let me run it properly | 00:55 |
| Elleo | I just remember develsh doesn't take LD_LIBRARY_PATH env variables properly | 00:56 |
| djszapi | that is not the problem | 00:56 |
| djszapi | you do not run the wrapper script | 00:56 |
| djszapi | just use the UI | 00:56 |
| djszapi | no develsh hackery | 00:56 |
| Elleo | invoker: error: Can't send signal 7 to application [12445]: No such process | 00:56 |
| djszapi | ok, same here. | 00:56 |
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| Elleo | the UI just crashes, I wanted to find what the error was | 00:56 |
| djszapi | no friggin clue what can cause that ^^ | 00:57 |
| djszapi | Elleo: try behind devel-su | 00:57 |
| Elleo | same error | 00:57 |
| djszapi | haha I brick your device :D | 00:57 |
| Elleo | also getting lots of "qrc:/MainSettingsPage.qml:235:17: QML Item: Binding loop detected for property "height"" prior to it crashing | 00:58 |
| djszapi | weird... the application launches behind devel-su in here at least.. | 00:58 |
| djszapi | Elleo: yep, all my releases had that | 00:58 |
| djszapi | I do not care :D | 00:58 |
| Elleo | and it reports being unable to open a few files | 00:58 |
| Elleo | like /opt/kanagram/share/apps/kvtml/el/worldcapitals.kvtml | 00:58 |
| Elleo | and /opt/kanagram/share/apps/kvtml/pa/people.kvtml | 00:58 |
| djszapi | friggin unclue category here :D | 00:58 |
| Elleo | and /usr/share/kde4/apps/ | 00:58 |
| djszapi | I do not know what causes that crash | 00:59 |
| Elleo | its not invoker that crashes though | 01:00 |
| djszapi | all I have made is to pass pngs for the splash screen | 01:00 |
| Elleo | its the app itself | 01:00 |
| djszapi | that is pretty much all the mods | 01:00 |
| djszapi | nope | 01:00 |
| Elleo | if I run LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/kanagram/lib /opt/kanagram/bin/kanagram-harmattan directly it still crashes | 01:00 |
| djszapi | that is why it is invoker | 01:00 |
| Elleo | complaining about a "Bus error" just like it does via invoker | 01:00 |
| djszapi | the app has not changed a bit since last time | 01:00 |
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| Elleo | well it crashes for me without invoker launching it | 01:01 |
| djszapi | and that debian is working, and definitely distributed | 01:01 |
| djszapi | it has nothing to do with my app | 01:01 |
| djszapi | it runs fine as root in here. | 01:01 |
| djszapi | and then again, all I changed is putting two pngs into the deb package, and using that from invoker. | 01:01 |
| Elleo | it doesn't work as user or root here, with or without invoker | 01:02 |
| djszapi | without invoker ? | 01:02 |
| djszapi | huh ? | 01:02 |
| Elleo | are you sure there aren't some extra things on your system its finding? | 01:02 |
| djszapi | what do you mean ? | 01:02 |
| Elleo | I mean if I run it directly without invoker it still crashes | 01:02 |
| djszapi | how should I know ? | 01:02 |
| Elleo | by running "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/kanagram/lib /opt/kanagram/bin/kanagram-harmattan" | 01:02 |
| djszapi | again, it is a working debian debian packaging | 01:02 |
| djszapi | got two pngs, that is all | 01:03 |
| djszapi | it is now crashing. | 01:03 |
| djszapi | apparently randomly. | 01:03 |
| Elleo | the problem isn't invoker though | 01:03 |
| djszapi | well, it works for me without the invoker | 01:03 |
| Elleo | not for me | 01:03 |
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| djszapi | too bad the harmattan platform is still this brittle. | 01:04 |
| Elleo | for me your application causes a bus error | 01:05 |
| djszapi | ignore that | 01:05 |
| djszapi | all the releases I had, had that. | 01:06 |
| djszapi | and like I said, even when the application works, I have that. | 01:06 |
| Elleo | the bus error terminates it, it cases SIGBUS and dies | 01:06 |
| Elleo | causes* | 01:06 |
| Elleo | just run strace on it | 01:06 |
| djszapi | not really, no | 01:06 |
| Elleo | immediately before dieing its looking for a config file | 01:06 |
| djszapi | I would recommend to try actually out the package already is in Ovi. | 01:07 |
| Elleo | /opt/kanagram/share/config/kanagramrc | 01:07 |
| djszapi | please do not come with this artificial reasons. :) | 01:07 |
| djszapi | these* | 01:07 |
| Elleo | "Program received signal SIGBUS, Bus error." is what gdb reports upon exit | 01:08 |
| djszapi | I am not getting point... | 01:08 |
| djszapi | the* | 01:08 |
| Elleo | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_fault#Bus_error | 01:10 |
| djszapi | 01:06 < djszapi> and like I said, even when the application works, I have that. | 01:11 |
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| Elleo | well I don't know where else to suggest you look | 01:12 |
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| djszapi | me neither. The platform seems totally borked | 01:13 |
| djszapi | it should not crash just because two png files are inserted into the debian package. :-) | 01:13 |
| Elleo | http://pastebin.com/0Czpn8bf <-- here's the gdb output if its any help | 01:14 |
| Elleo | I didn't bother trying to follow any of the threads, but it reports the sigbus in that thread | 01:14 |
| djszapi | that tells me zero | 01:17 |
| djszapi | unfortunately. | 01:17 |
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| mzanetti | Hi. I'm looking for a way to get notified when a headset is connected. Anyone has any hints? | 01:29 |
| jonni | mzanetti: you can forexample poll for changes in /sys/kernel/debug/twl5031_aci/cable and there should be a dbus signal too | 01:34 |
| mzanetti | jonni: I'm planning to do this in a daemon which is always running. So polling does not seem to be a viable option. Any more details on th dbus signal? I've been monitoring the d-bus system bus and ther is indeed stuff going on. However it differs between different headset types (like wired vs. Bluetoth) | 01:36 |
| mzanetti | there is no signal like "headset connected" or something like this. It's more a bunch of policy changes | 01:37 |
| mzanetti | and I fear I get those changes also in other circumstances | 01:37 |
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| tgalal_ | question, does "Allow background connection" keep the network connection open even though nothing is using it ? | 03:45 |
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| trx2 | X-Fade: is the bossbot broken again? i have submitted a new version of my package yesterday, trial build went fine and testing build went fine, but the app is now not in apps for meego.. so i tried to submit again, this time trial went fine but testing build didnt start, and the app is still not in apps for meego.. | 09:43 |
| trx2 | package name is txpad | 09:43 |
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| dm8tbr | 06:16:53< the-boss> [APPS] SR#4860 package txpad from trx is ACCEPTED into MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan:Apps:Testing | 10:24 |
| dm8tbr | 06:17:45< the-boss> [APPS] package txpad was REMOVED because a newer version got submitted | 10:24 |
| trx2 | yea, i got the mail and everything | 10:43 |
| trx2 | but its missing from apps for meego | 10:43 |
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| dm8tbr | well after that it got revoked due to the new version. no idea. | 10:51 |
| djszapi | trx2: how many downloads can you hope for in apps4meego ? | 10:52 |
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| trx2 | djszapi: i dont care really | 10:56 |
| trx2 | i just want to make it available to those who want it :) | 10:56 |
| djszapi | then why not ovi ? | 10:57 |
| trx2 | its wating for QA there, but it wont be free there, i wanted to use ovi as a method of donation | 11:00 |
| trx2 | because i dont have other means of settings up donations | 11:00 |
| trx2 | thats why i need it here for free | 11:00 |
| djszapi | you can do both in ovi... like many others do... | 11:01 |
| trx2 | i dont like it but i am forced to do it as i no logner have a job :/ | 11:01 |
| trx2 | what do you mean? | 11:01 |
| trx2 | paying can be optional in ovi? | 11:02 |
| djszapi | yes of course | 11:02 |
| djszapi | you can submit twice with payment and also for free | 11:02 |
| djszapi | many do that really... | 11:02 |
| trx2 | i did not know that, this is the first time i am submiting anything there | 11:02 |
| djszapi | right, it is possible. I cannot recall which applications I saw like that, but I /did/ see. :) | 11:03 |
| trx2 | well, in any case i would also like to help apps for meego gain some users if possible | 11:03 |
| trx2 | i will look arround the store for such cases, thank you for the info | 11:04 |
| djszapi | well, apps4meego did not get too popular for Harmattan | 11:04 |
| trx2 | i am hoping we can change that :) | 11:05 |
| djszapi | why would you hope for that ? | 11:05 |
| djszapi | Harmattan is not much of an interest for too much investigation in any case. | 11:05 |
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| trx2 | well, its the only platform other than fremantle that i like | 11:09 |
| djszapi | Elleo: how did you run kanagram in gdb with the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable set ? | 11:09 |
| trx2 | so the longer it "lives", the better | 11:09 |
| djszapi | trx2: I hope the opposite, and that the next-billion is out soon. | 11:10 |
| djszapi | only thing I can think of, Qt5 for Harmattan | 11:11 |
| djszapi | qt4 is getting not too appealing for devs anyway | 11:11 |
| djszapi | Elleo: I have tried this way: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/kanagram/lib gdb /opt/kanagram/bin/kanagram-harmattan | 11:12 |
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| trx2 | djszapi: i have no idea about what will "the next billion" look like | 11:21 |
| trx2 | and i have null intentions to develop for windows platform | 11:21 |
| djszapi | trx2: you should visit qt developer events more often, and you would have ideas :P | 11:22 |
| trx2 | i will never use their .net | 11:22 |
| djszapi | next-billion != lumia | 11:22 |
| trx2 | yeah i know that\ | 11:22 |
| trx2 | but its low-end as i understand | 11:22 |
| djszapi | ...that means ? | 11:22 |
| trx2 | that for me can mean black and white screens.. | 11:23 |
| trx2 | if you know what i mean? | 11:23 |
| djszapi | Nokia does develop qtquick2 for a reason | 11:23 |
| trx2 | yeah, harmattan was developed with a reason too | 11:24 |
| trx2 | dont get me wrong, i have nothing against the next billion | 11:24 |
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| trx2 | i just dont know what to expect from it | 11:25 |
| djszapi | well, you can be pessimist and optimist | 11:25 |
| djszapi | I leave that decision to you. | 11:25 |
| trx2 | i am very optimistic as you can see | 11:25 |
| MohammadAG | I can't see how you can be an optimist in the current state | 11:25 |
| trx2 | i am hoping for apps for meego to gain momentum, if that ain't optimisim :) | 11:26 |
| MohammadAG | The next million/billion seems like some failed marketing bs | 11:26 |
| djszapi | trx2: your time... I rather play with Qt5 instead. :) | 11:27 |
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| trx2 | there's time for qt5 | 11:33 |
| trx2 | atm i see no use for it | 11:34 |
| trx2 | except for playing arround | 11:34 |
| djszapi | I think you missed the competition as well... | 11:34 |
| djszapi | and no, qt5 is totally useful already, and a whole kde stack was built on top of that... | 11:35 |
| djszapi | kdelibs, kde-pim etc. | 11:35 |
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| trx2 | i'll check it out | 11:44 |
| trx2 | my fpc ide, lazarus uses qt4 widgets to create UI's | 11:44 |
| trx2 | i was planing to create an interface that will use qt5 and qml | 11:45 |
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| djszapi | trx2: are you the maintainer of that ide ? | 11:48 |
| trx2 | no | 11:48 |
| trx2 | i just help out with qt4 interface | 11:48 |
| trx2 | its interesting because it can produce apps that use gtk, qt, carbon, cocoa, win32 etc with no code modifications | 11:49 |
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| trx2 | and because QWidgets are being phased out i was planning to create a new interface for qt5 | 11:51 |
| MohammadAG | Phased out? Only on mobile | 11:51 |
| MohammadAG | djszapi: any idea how I can style an MWidget? | 11:52 |
| trx2 | yeah | 11:52 |
| trx2 | but qt interface on lazarus is now obsolete and cant produce nice looking apps | 11:52 |
| trx2 | (mobile) | 11:52 |
| trx2 | so i have to mix pascal <-> C++ <-> QML | 11:53 |
| trx2 | which is no fun :) | 11:54 |
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| djszapi | Elleo: fixed the bug \o/ I typed en_US instead of "en" which is wrong. | 12:27 |
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| djszapi | QWidgets are being definitely phased out on desktop as well. | 12:32 |
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| djszapi | that is funky... the bug does not appear as root or developer, but user... Is there a way of changing the current user to "user" for debugging the issue ? | 12:46 |
| djszapi | I mean behind ssh, and not terminal on the phone display. | 12:46 |
| djszapi | I cannot even change the password for the user in the terminal so that I could log directly in as user via ssh. | 12:48 |
| djszapi | jonni itsnotabigtruck ^ | 12:52 |
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| Elleo | djszapi: devel-su user (after becoming root) | 13:31 |
| djszapi | Elleo: thp nks | 13:32 |
| djszapi | lol accidental tab ^^ :) | 13:32 |
| Elleo | no worries | 13:32 |
| djszapi | I do not, but thp might look weird ;) | 13:32 |
| djszapi | Elleo: anyway, can try the new version ? | 13:34 |
| djszapi | http://minus.com/mg4cjiMNG/ | 13:34 |
| thp | argh, now you woke me up! ;) | 13:37 |
| Elleo | djszapi: okay, just a minute | 13:37 |
| djszapi | thp: I do not even comment on that how crazy idea to get a wake up alarm for an irc event ;) | 13:38 |
| thp | hehe, i don't have that, and it might be a bad idea ;) | 13:39 |
| thp | but still, hooking up a jabberbot to irssi... hmm | 13:40 |
| Elleo | djszapi: yep, that seems to work :) | 13:40 |
| djszapi | Elleo: even as user ? | 13:40 |
| djszapi | it does not with that user here. | 13:41 |
| Elleo | yep, just launching via the home screen | 13:42 |
| djszapi | Elleo: and that works for you, really ? | 13:42 |
| Elleo | yep | 13:42 |
| Elleo | I only went as far as starting a game, but that all works | 13:43 |
| djszapi | Elleo: please use this config file content for a test: http://paste.kde.org/482762/ | 13:43 |
| djszapi | if I delete that file, the launch works. | 13:44 |
| Elleo | fails for me too then | 13:45 |
| djszapi | what if you delete that file, and save italian in the settings, quit and re-launch ? | 13:45 |
| MohammadAG | Woo, figured out styling in mtf | 13:46 |
| Elleo | doesn't launch after setting italian through the gui; and if I simply delete dataLanaguage=it from that config it works | 13:46 |
| Elleo | dataLanage=de works fine, so its not all non-english languages that cause problems | 13:47 |
| Elleo | dataLanguage* | 13:47 |
| djszapi | Elleo: try other language code names | 13:48 |
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| Elleo | others work | 13:49 |
| djszapi | which others ? | 13:49 |
| Elleo | I'm not going to test them all, you can do that ;) | 13:49 |
| Elleo | german and irish gaelic | 13:49 |
| djszapi | hu ? | 13:49 |
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| MohammadAG | ar :p | 13:49 |
| Elleo | hu fails | 13:50 |
| djszapi | Elleo: this is what you are also getting right ? ASSERT failure in QList<T>::at: "index out of range", file /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qlist.h, line 456 | 13:51 |
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| Elleo | djszapi: nope | 13:55 |
| djszapi | oh yes, you do not have debug build | 13:55 |
| Elleo | djszapi: http://pastebin.com/gKPXuKCY | 13:55 |
| djszapi | you are not getting that useful information | 13:55 |
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| djszapi | Elleo: http://minus.com/mzvcCLNBL/ | 14:25 |
| Elleo | djszapi: that works with Italian now | 14:27 |
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| djszapi | Elleo: Have you ever used the Selection Dialog Harmattan component ? | 15:06 |
| Elleo | djszapi: yep, only for a simple thing though | 15:09 |
| djszapi | should a ToolButton text change, if I manually change the selectedIndex in here: text: categorySelectionDialog.model[categorySelectionDialog.selectedIndex]; | 15:10 |
| Elleo | no idea, sorry | 15:10 |
| djszapi | hah | 15:10 |
| thp | djszapi: try model.get() instead of model[] | 15:16 |
| djszapi | thp: why ? | 15:17 |
| thp | djszapi: if [] doea not work | 15:18 |
| djszapi | why would that make a difference ? | 15:19 |
| djszapi | I understand .get() is probably better for getting stuff, but still: that should not matter in this case. | 15:19 |
| djszapi | thp: .get() is totally broken | 15:21 |
| djszapi | that does not display anything. | 15:21 |
| thp | is it? worked for me so far | 15:21 |
| djszapi | yes, it is. | 15:21 |
| djszapi | totally borked | 15:21 |
| djszapi | text remains empty. | 15:22 |
| djszapi | [] -> works fine | 15:22 |
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| djszapi | text: categorySelectionDialog.model.get(categorySelectionDialog.selectedIndex); -> this is what I have used. Text remains empty. | 15:23 |
| djszapi | unlike []. | 15:23 |
| thp | what do you usr as a model? a QML ListModel? | 15:26 |
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| djszapi | no | 15:26 |
| djszapi | that is quite limited anyway | 15:27 |
| khertan | Hi guys ! | 15:27 |
| thp | djszapi: ok, then it makes sense -get() is something that is ListModel specific | 15:30 |
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| djszapi | thp: I do not think so. | 15:31 |
| djszapi | as it is not working with QStringListModel... | 15:31 |
| djszapi | which is also a ListModel anyway | 15:31 |
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| djszapi | thp: qrc:/GamePage.qml:161: TypeError: Result of expression 'categorySelectionDialog.model.get' [undefined] is not a function. | 15:33 |
| thp | but not a ListModel 'as defined in qml' | 15:37 |
| djszapi | qml listmodel is a toy | 15:38 |
| khertan | qml is a toy | 15:40 |
| djszapi | xD | 15:43 |
| thp | i like it :) | 15:47 |
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| Jeffrey04 | just out of curiousity, if i need to install mercurial on my n9, which one should i install? | 15:51 |
| Jeffrey04 | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=mercurial&project=home%3Arzr%3Adebian&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 15:51 |
| Jeffrey04 | or https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=mercurial&project=home%3Arzr%3Adebian&repository=harmattan | 15:52 |
| djszapi | I would choose none of those. | 15:53 |
| Jeffrey04 | then? | 15:53 |
| Jeffrey04 | install via easy_install? | 15:53 |
| Jeffrey04 | (not sure if there is) | 15:54 |
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| djszapi | you do realize those are under debian ? :) | 15:55 |
| Jeffrey04 | aren't those packaged for harmattan?! | 15:56 |
| Jeffrey04 | i have no idea then LOL | 15:56 |
| djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan -> this is the community repository. | 15:56 |
| djszapi | and that has no mercurial. Feel free to work on one, and submit the result. | 15:56 |
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| Jeffrey04 | lol, not a packager myself | 15:57 |
| Jeffrey04 | :) | 15:57 |
| MFaro-Tusino | anyone good with gconf and/or settings applets? | 15:57 |
| Jeffrey04 | will see what i can do then | 15:57 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Also, anyone know how to change the operator text? | 15:57 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: what do you need mercurial for ? | 15:58 |
| thp | Jeffrey04: Jeffrey04 try the package from debian armel | 16:00 |
| Jeffrey04 | djszapi: convenience | 16:00 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: Jeffrey04 try the package from debian armel, Jeffrey04 :) | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey04 | thp: erm… where can I get the package? | 16:01 |
| thp | packages.debian.org/mercurial | 16:01 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: I would recommend grab a debian package, and try to build for Harmattan | 16:01 |
| Jeffrey04 | thp: thanks | 16:01 |
| djszapi | that is how I made 50-100+ packages last summer. | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey04 | djszapi: apt-get source? | 16:02 |
| djszapi | nope | 16:02 |
| djszapi | go to the debian sites, grab stuff, alter, test, submit to the commrepo. | 16:02 |
| thp | although i my experience, the community repo is just a pile of incompatible/broken stuff (that's not for everything, but enabling the community repos breaks some stuff for me) | 16:04 |
| thp | Jeffrey04: if you have a scratchbox / platform sdk install on your machine, apt-get source from debian, then build and scp the .deb over to your device | 16:05 |
| djszapi | thp: whining is always simpler than helping | 16:05 |
| Jeffrey04 | thp: actually prefer something like ubuntu's ppa or something similar :) | 16:05 |
| djszapi | thp: mind you, almost nobody helped apart from me and rzr | 16:05 |
| thp | Jeffrey04: then use build.pub.meego.com (with your own stuff | 16:05 |
| djszapi | thp: but thanks for your lovely words | 16:05 |
| thp | djszapi: i'm sure you are doing some great work, but i just said that the commrepo doesn't work for me | 16:06 |
| djszapi | and no, it is not a "pile of incompatible/broken stuff", actually many people thanked and used successfully. | 16:06 |
| Jeffrey04 | hahahahha, then gotta dig some time to figure out how to get stuff working | 16:06 |
| djszapi | even for a whole kd estack. | 16:06 |
| djszapi | kde stack* | 16:06 |
| thp | djszapi: sorry - don't feel offended. i'm sure it's very useful for lots of people! | 16:07 |
| djszapi | that is why it is called community repository. If there is an issue, fix it. | 16:07 |
| djszapi | whining will not help for anybody | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey04 | oooops | 16:07 |
| djszapi | just distracts the attention from a centralized place that we definitely need anyway | 16:07 |
| Jeffrey04 | ok, mebbe i should start with installing the platform sdk | 16:08 |
| djszapi | that said, it works fine for me, and you have not mentioned any bugs, nor bugreports you provided. | 16:08 |
| thp | it's just easier for me to build the few single packages myself or upload them to my own obs account / home folder -> less worries that i break other people's stuff, and less worries what happens if the commrepo contains incompatible packages (i.e. nokia-supplied libs that are updated in the commrepo) | 16:08 |
| djszapi | so I consider this still factless whining. | 16:08 |
| djszapi | and that mentality completely distracts that we are a community | 16:08 |
| djszapi | I am glad not everybody thinks that way. | 16:09 |
| thp | being a community doesn't mean that one should be forced to use/contribute to the commrepo if they don't want to ;) | 16:09 |
| djszapi | who forces you ? | 16:09 |
| djszapi | you are essentially saying that you do not help out others, it is fine if it is works ONLY for you. | 16:10 |
| djszapi | with this mentality, better to not contribute to the community repository really :) | 16:10 |
| thp | exactly. | 16:10 |
| thp | i contribute in other areas where i might be better suited ;) | 16:10 |
| djszapi | I have spent enormous amount of time with cleanups for helping others even if it had no effect on me. | 16:10 |
| thp | and now i gotta go - we can discuss this later :) | 16:10 |
| djszapi | then why complain publicly ? | 16:10 |
| djszapi | to publicly distract the community repository ? | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey04 | so scratchbox is a virtual machine image? | 16:11 |
| djszapi | do you think it is healthy ? | 16:11 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: it is a virtualized development environment | 16:11 |
| Jeffrey04 | djszapi: so it uses QEMU? can I use virtualbox? | 16:12 |
| Elleo | Jeffrey04: its not a VM like you're thinking | 16:13 |
| djszapi | it uses qemu, but it has nothing to do with virtualbox... | 16:13 |
| Elleo | Jeffrey04: it uses QEMU for executing non-native binaries | 16:13 |
| Elleo | but its not a fully virtualised machine | 16:13 |
| Elleo | and if your scratchbox target is x86 then it doesn't use QEMU at all | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey04 | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_Platform_SDK_user_guide_Integrating_Qt_Creator_with_Scratchbox_in_Mac_OS_X_environment.html < I'm on mac, so I should follow this guide right? | 16:14 |
| djszapi | Err.. nope... | 16:14 |
| djszapi | I would recommend MADDE on Mac. | 16:14 |
| Jeffrey04 | i think qt creator already uses madde | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey04 | that's how i built .deb packages for my python scripts | 16:15 |
| djszapi | you have no reasons to use scratchbox on Mac. | 16:16 |
| djszapi | well, you would not actually use scratchbox on Mac anyway, but in Ubuntu or so | 16:16 |
| djszapi | inside a virtualbox. Surely, you can go for that, if you prefer the pain. :) | 16:16 |
| djszapi | Madde is /way/ simpler. | 16:16 |
| Jeffrey04 | so just to recap, if i want to try building mercurial, i should just use madde that came with my copy of qt creator? | 16:17 |
| djszapi | yeah | 16:18 |
| djszapi | though if mercurial requires a lot of stuff, it is perhaps better to use scratchbox, but I do not think mercurial requires so much. | 16:19 |
| djszapi | Madde knowledge will be useful for you, if you wanna play with Qt5 on Mac tough | 16:19 |
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| thp | Jeffrey04: with madde on osx, you use it like /path/to/qtsdk/Madde/bin/mad list to get a list of targets and then .../mad -t <targetname> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot for example | 16:53 |
| Jeffrey04 | thp: with the tarball i get via apt-get source? | 16:54 |
| thp | Jeffrey04: yes, with the extracted debian source package | 17:01 |
| thp | (dpkg-source -x <filename>.dsc) | 17:01 |
| Jeffrey04 | thp: thanks :) | 17:01 |
| thp | you can also prefix dpkg-source with "mad" and that should work | 17:01 |
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| MohammadAG | wish I could kill debs on Harmattan | 17:25 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: huh? | 17:32 |
| Shaan7 | Hi, I'm trying to login to google docs using harmattan SSO ClientLogin, however the process/request call ignores the params i pass through sessionData. Any idea what might be wrong? here's the code snippet http://paste.kde.org/482918/ | 17:32 |
| MohammadAG | thp, Qt Creator debs, or the need to build them every time I run | 17:32 |
| thp | MohammadAG: in developer mode, you could just scp the binary and run it there (if you don't rely on files being installed in some special location) | 17:33 |
| MohammadAG | thp, I thought that was gone after beta2 | 17:33 |
| MohammadAG | this isn't QML fyi | 17:33 |
| thp | sure, but i think it only worked *since* beta2 ;) | 17:34 |
| thp | anyway, i can scp a binary (c++ compiled to armel code) and then run it (./binaryname) as user "user" | 17:34 |
| thp | even with PR1.2 on a N9 with developer mode enabled, but in "closed mode" and without inception or anything | 17:35 |
| MohammadAG | hmm | 17:35 |
| thp | you can't copy it over the installed version, but running it from /home/user/ works | 17:35 |
| thp | and with qt, you can bundle all your resource files as resources, so the binary is mostly self-contained anyway | 17:35 |
| thp | try it! | 17:36 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, sec, configured a deployment step in Qt Creator | 17:39 |
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| thp | MohammadAG: if you use scp, the application must not be running, because otherwise you get "text file busy" (which you can probably work around by moving the running file out of place - i'm not sure why scp doesn't have a switch that says "transfer, then rename the old file, then place the new file, then unlink the old file" | 17:40 |
| thp | MohammadAG: it's basically this issue: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/scp-text-file-busy-error-365198/ | 17:41 |
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| MohammadAG | it works | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | we ever seen a service manual for N9? | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | moo moh | 17:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | alternatively: any hints about disassembling? | 17:50 |
| djszapi | rzr: morning | 17:50 |
| djszapi | rzr: perhaps you could help out Jeffrey04 with the mercurial packaging ? | 17:50 |
| thp | DocScrutinizer: if you search for "nokia n9 teardown" on youtube, you'll find some guides | 17:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | tnx | 17:51 |
| thp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSJtUbnM46E | 17:51 |
| thp | i think that was one of the first ones | 17:51 |
| djszapi | thp: the best is Dimitri and his N950 :) | 17:51 |
| thp | where he says "i'm a hacker guy, i really need a hw keyboard"? ;) | 17:52 |
| djszapi | yeah, and also that: "Man, life sucks a lot now". :) | 17:52 |
| thp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-T_w_QXXms | 17:52 |
| djszapi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=7-T_w_QXXms | 17:53 |
| djszapi | yes :) | 17:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | WAAAAAH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqMLMTud95o | 17:54 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'm exactly stuck at the point where this bloke is using cutter to ruin the already broken glass | 17:54 |
| thp | DocScrutinizer: a comment there says "In the Nokia service manual it shows you can push the screen out from the sim card hole without leaving any marks on the case.. | 17:55 |
| thp | DocScrutinizer: http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Nokia_N9_service_manual | 17:55 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, pop out sim tray, put in a driver, pry out screen | 17:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | thanks :-D | 17:56 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, lemme find the video I saw of that | 17:56 |
| MohammadAG | it's a Lumia 800, but same shit different OS | 17:56 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCU2PWiq0Kc#at=35 | 17:57 |
| MohammadAG | internals and ribbons might be different | 17:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSJtUbnM46E 3:12 - I reconsider if doing the whole stuff myself is really needed | 18:10 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ""pull out and remove the SENSOR FLEX. Do not use it again. Discard it"" SUUUUURE | 18:17 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNSIG0uRVrk looks most accurate, and suggests to "discard, do not use again" half the phone ;-P | 18:25 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | woot, just figured out i can put nicknames on any contact | 21:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not just im contacts | 21:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's just hidden under 'other information' | 21:24 |
| Venemo | yep | 21:24 |
| Venemo | I knew that since last july :P | 21:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, it's hardly obvious and easy to forget | 21:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i expected it to maybe work like phone numbers where you can tap it and pick what kind of phone number you are entering | 21:26 |
| Venemo | mhm | 21:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hm, did the price on the galaxy nexus come down at some point | 21:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | apparently it's $400 now | 21:31 |
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| antman8969 | has anyone ever tried to use a qsqlquerymodel as the model for a selection dialog? | 21:39 |
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