| itsnotabigtruck | if your run it though invoker -te, it'll inherit the credentials, and if you run it directly, it won't | 00:00 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | *if you run which causes a lot of mystery bugs for devs that aren't paying attention to what's actually going on | 00:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but that shouldn't happen with a python script with a shebang line | 00:01 |
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| tgalal | cool | 00:03 |
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| HKisd | I had enabled couple extra repositories from meecatalog. maybe it messed up something | 00:07 |
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| rzr | http://wiki.maemo.org/Summer%2712_Device_Program | 02:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ^ | 02:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | you still have no N9 | 02:23 |
| MohammadAG | nope, but I have an N950 so I don't consider myself eligible | 02:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not sure i like > 25 devices for existing community apps being published at the Nokia Store. | 02:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and i'm not sure what the qt 5 item means in practice | 02:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | imo publishing via the nokia store is inherently contradictory to "community" anything | 02:31 |
| MohammadAG | thinking of selling the lumia and getting an N9 | 02:31 |
| MohammadAG | heh, true that | 02:31 |
| MohammadAG | but hey, it made me implement a very intelligent and advanced update system | 02:31 |
| Elleo | my lumia only gets used for one thing and that's making videos of my n950 | 02:31 |
| Elleo | since its the only thing I have that focuses on the screen properly | 02:31 |
| MohammadAG | http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/sociality-mtf-version | 02:32 |
| MohammadAG | it focuses macro-ly well | 02:32 |
| MohammadAG | and its UI is fast | 02:32 |
| Elleo | I had intended to port a few things to it, but then I found that the platform was too restrictive to let me do any of the things I wanted; so it just sits around looking pretty | 02:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, wp7's .net environment is intensely locked down | 02:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | .net's actually pretty cool in many ways, but not the way it was implemented on wp7 | 02:33 |
| MohammadAG | this is awesome | 02:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | where it's basically there entirely to restrict your access to the phone | 02:33 |
| Elleo | yeah, I couldn't even find a way to get it to let me check the battery level accurately to make a nice battery graphing app | 02:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it seems MS won against the hackers with wp7...wp7 hacking is basically dead on arrival these days | 02:34 |
| Elleo | let alone let me add ogg vorbis support in any meaningful way | 02:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | there's a few things you can do but they aren't easy, or compatible with all WP7 models (including the lumia) | 02:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and windows ce's native environment is a horrible system to program for | 02:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's really no fun at all | 02:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's why the N9 having a full linux environment is so important | 02:35 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | also MohammadAG: version 0.3 has 0.2 in the name? :p | 02:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you should make sure you secure it somehow so that a MITM can't pwn your phone with a bad deb | 02:37 |
| MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, I edited it to test the notification system :p | 02:37 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | http + no signature = bad | 02:37 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG ^ | 02:41 |
| MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, it's basic for now | 02:41 |
| MohammadAG | Harmattan handles the downloads, if it was me I'd md5 it | 02:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: don't use MD5 either :p | 02:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | 3 ways i can think of to do it would be to | 02:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | a) deliver the update info file over HTTPS, where your server's self-signed certificate is the only trusted certificate | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the info file has a SHA256 hash of the deb | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | b) deliver the update info file over HTTP, with a GPG signature applied, where your server's GPG key is the only trusted key | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the info file also has a SHA256 hash of the data | 02:44 |
| tgalal | I am benefitting from this conversation :) | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or c) deliver the update info file over HTTP and skip the hash, but embed a signature of some sort into the deb and validate that | 02:45 |
| MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, mind making me a patch? :P | 02:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or d) don't do that altogether because it really isn't a very good idea | 02:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | umm no | 02:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | your app your problem >_> | 02:45 |
| MohammadAG | lol | 02:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw apt does (b) | 02:46 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | aegis does (c) | 02:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: and well, you shouldn't...the entire point of a package manager is NOT having this stuff in every single app | 02:48 |
| MohammadAG | a package manager needs a sane repo | 02:49 |
| MohammadAG | which we still don't have | 02:49 |
| MohammadAG | so I've taken the deb path, which sucks, but heyu | 02:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | then make sure to either dump it or secure it because unsecured updates are a pretty bad idea | 02:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i mean, is it a very realistic threat vehicle...probably not, but it is an obvious threat vehicle | 02:51 |
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| bef0rd | hi | 03:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | the obvious threat vector is your wife hiring a private eye who knows an IT specialist who provides the needed "malware" on a website, or on a USB stick or whateve, and your wife installing it on your phone while you're under the shower | 03:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | bet that with SHA256 | 03:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | beat* | 03:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | the whole idea of system based security is BS. The only proper security concept is a proper root password and an educated user | 03:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | oops, I was wrong. I forgot about the most common threat vector: noob users installing apps like wazap, because they are "free" | 03:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | the only proper security concept helps in that case just as well | 03:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | Burn the heathens. | 03:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | just harder to implement - users who deliberately use wazap etc are hard to educate | 03:45 |
| SpeedEvil | I secured my lumia 800 by placing it in a 2 foot block of concrete and dropping it into the marianas trench. | 03:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | best thing you can do with that device ;-D | 03:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | Noo! | 03:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's great for watching Netflix in bed. | 03:46 |
| SpeedEvil | No netflix in the UK | 03:48 |
| GeneralAntilles | To the trench it goes! | 03:48 |
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| khertan | Morning | 07:45 |
| khertan | MohammadAG: i ve finally found the perfect example of speed with an app made in Python and a similar one made in C++. Look at native slow twitter client on n9 , and Khweeteur on n900, Khweeteur is faster, not because python is faster than c++, but because Khweeteur have a better logic of caching things. Language speed is nothing ! (And use less memory also) | 07:47 |
| khertan | :) | 07:47 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | khertan: it would be even faster if you used C++, however | 07:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | slow c++ < fast python < fast c++ | 07:54 |
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| khertan | itsnotabigtruck: probably not, as most time is used waiting user action, or in c++ libs of python :) | 07:56 |
| khertan | just the startup time will be faster | 07:57 |
| khertan | and in case of doing it in c++ i ll probably not get the time to implement all this cache optimizations | 07:57 |
| khertan | i use less time to code, so more time for the logic :) | 07:58 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | khertan: it's not about the percentage of time that the app is running that it's busy doing stuff | 08:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's about *response time* | 08:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and performance is essential | 08:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | 50 ms vs 400 ms after the user pushes a button is the difference between instant and sluggish | 08:02 |
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| antman8969 | testing | 08:31 |
| antman8969 | anyone else have trouble setting properties on the rootContext() lately? Cannot seem to get it to work on harmattan with or without booster | 08:47 |
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| jonni | antman8969: that depends if your using QApplication or QScoperPointer, there is a known bug that wizard makes buggy skeleton if you use QScopedPointer and try to use rootContext(). | 09:12 |
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| jonni | (which should be fixed on next qt creator release) | 09:13 |
| jonni | antman8969: there is workaround documented in here https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-6490 | 09:23 |
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| antman8969 | jonni I've seen that, it was actually my own fault | 09:26 |
| antman8969 | I was using Q_DECL_EXPORT in place of Q_INVOKABLE | 09:26 |
| antman8969 | in addition, you apparently have to set context properties BEFORE setting a source file | 09:27 |
| antman8969 | two stupid mistakes that cost me hours... | 09:27 |
| jonni | ah | 09:31 |
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| susundberg | Hello, seems like my restore changed my /home/user permissions to 777 -> ssh refuces to work with rsa-key. Could somebody point out what the permissions should be? | 09:35 |
| susundberg | 700 ? | 09:36 |
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| susundberg | (device is N9, pr1.2) | 09:36 |
| Venemo_N950 | heh, morning | 09:36 |
| susundberg | good morning | 09:36 |
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| decibyte_ | i broke my n9 display. is it possible to enable vnc via some shell command? i got ssh access. | 10:55 |
| jonni | yes it is, search forums. | 11:01 |
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| decibyte_ | jonni: thanks | 11:10 |
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| Stecchino | djszapi: did you happen to package libqca2-plugin-ossl v2.0.0 for Harmattan? | 11:34 |
| Stecchino | version from nokia is 0.1~20070904-5+0m6 and qca 2.0.2-3 has problems loading it hence some crypto functions are failing | 11:35 |
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| djszapi | Stecchino: I am sorry, but I do not have time. | 11:39 |
| djszapi | Stecchino: I cannot recall all the packages I made, was above 100'ish :) | 11:39 |
| djszapi | I can take a look this weekend, if you that is fine. | 11:40 |
| Stecchino | djszapi: just give me a link to your OBS page and I'll search | 11:40 |
| Stecchino | So far no lunk on http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/all/ | 11:40 |
| Stecchino | I might package it myself | 11:40 |
| Stecchino | I just wonder why the official repo has such an ancient version | 11:41 |
| djszapi | Stecchino: cause updating unnecessarily is a maintenance overhead | 11:47 |
| Stecchino | djszapi: in this case it seems the old version is not working though. And libqca2-plugin-ossl was released a month after that package version. Might there be a license issue? | 11:48 |
| djszapi | Stecchino: sorry, but really deadline'ish here for Monday. | 11:49 |
| djszapi | I can take a look at this during the weekend. | 11:49 |
| Stecchino | djszapi: I'll keep you updated | 11:51 |
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| gabriel9|work | morning | 12:07 |
| gabriel9|work | anyone use mail for exchange with gmail? | 12:07 |
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| Stecchino | gabriel9|work: only for contacts | 12:27 |
| gabriel9|work | so if i add it, do i need gmail also for chat? | 12:28 |
| Stecchino | no, that is with the google accounts plugin | 12:29 |
| Stecchino | sad that not all G services are covered by google accounts plugin | 12:29 |
| Stecchino | technically it's possible | 12:30 |
| Stecchino | Hoe comfortable are people discussing Harmatan development (platform and official apps, i.e. Nokia internal) these days. Many of us are ex-nokia externals right? It's been over a year and since PR1.2 all has been shut down AFAIK. | 12:31 |
| Stecchino | Guess the NDA still holds, but think it would be nice if we can keep Harmattan going in the community | 12:32 |
| Stecchino | well, topic is clear | 12:33 |
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| gabriel9|work | well | 12:38 |
| gabriel9|work | we should keep HArmattan in Comunity | 12:38 |
| gabriel9|work | it's nice | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | :) | 12:39 |
| Stecchino | We could it we massively broke NDA :) | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | and i got C++ book :D | 12:39 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 12:39 |
| Stecchino | Does nokia still carE? | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | who needs Nokia | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | we have devices | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | and source :) | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | all i need is some knowladge | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | from C++ | 12:39 |
| Stecchino | yeah, source under NDA | 12:39 |
| gabriel9|work | NDA is? | 12:39 |
| Stecchino | Non disclosure agreement | 12:40 |
| Stecchino | If you don't know you never signed it | 12:40 |
| Stecchino | and #N9 might be better for your general questions to be frank | 12:40 |
| gabriel9|work | i heard about it but don't know what is it | 12:40 |
| SpeedEvil | It would be awesome if there was a massive source release. | 12:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Unfortunately, leaks are less clear. | 12:41 |
| Stecchino | Won't happen unfortunately. There is no business case for opening Harmattan | 12:41 |
| Stecchino | at least not for Nokia :) I would have. | 12:41 |
| gabriel9|work | so they don't want it | 12:41 |
| SpeedEvil | If Nokia was doing ongoing development, the harm to community relations could be mentioned. | 12:42 |
| gabriel9|work | and they dont wwant to give it :D | 12:42 |
| SpeedEvil | So absenting the legal question - is it likely to harm potential Meltmi openness. | 12:42 |
| jonni | and there are some patent and ipr reasons too why some sources cannot be released. | 12:42 |
| Stecchino | as far as I know all the Nokia devs that stayed are now working on M | 12:43 |
| gabriel9|work | And Meltemi is new OS :/ | 12:44 |
| gabriel9|work | i dont get it | 12:44 |
| gabriel9|work | they have one OS and they create another | 12:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | You missed 'throwing away any minimal inertia in the marketplace they had' | 12:45 |
| gabriel9|work | yea that also | 12:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Meltmi is going to face a hell of an uphill struggle. | 12:46 |
| gabriel9|work | and it is lov end | 12:46 |
| SpeedEvil | It would have been interesting to see the results if Nokia had released N901 a year on from n900 with a modest hardware refresh, and continued SW devel. | 12:46 |
| gabriel9|work | 40% of people in US have smartphone | 12:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Indeed. | 12:47 |
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| gabriel9|work | all wan't bigger faster better phones now | 12:47 |
| gabriel9|work | i don't know anyone who will buy some cheap slow phone :/ | 12:47 |
| gabriel9|work | well nice talking with you | 12:48 |
| gabriel9|work | now back to work :) there is some new ideas i want to try | 12:48 |
| gabriel9|work | see ya | 12:48 |
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| ArkanoiD_ | am i right that there is just no way to associate twitter username with address book contact manually and if the obscure heuristic failed, that's it? | 13:01 |
| gabriel9|work | as i know there is no way to merge them | 13:03 |
| gabriel9|work | maybe in 1.3 :) | 13:04 |
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| Jaffa | ArkanoiD_: I haven't checked through the API, but at least when exposed as a VCard, it doesn't seem to be present. | 14:14 |
| Jaffa | Also, VCards have got pictures encoded as multi-100KB PNGs. This might explain Contacts' slowness (when they're only ever shown as 80x80ish) | 14:15 |
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| MohammadAG | is libvideo-widget-meegotouch open? | 14:40 |
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| ZogG_laptop | lol | 15:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | i got message from moderator on TMO on personal attack on thread | 15:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | the funny thing it is deleted | 15:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | so probably it was one of the stupid "make me app" posts | 15:58 |
| thp | if anybody wants to be added as member to the https://github.com/harmattan project, please ping me - would be nice to have some harmattan apps in a central place :) | 16:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: hmm, what about apps4meego? | 16:06 |
| thp | apps.formeego doesn't have scm afaik, and ideally the apps on that github organization should be published on apps.formeego.org | 16:07 |
| thp | maybe even automatically, apparently obs can build out of a git repository | 16:07 |
| Elleo | it'd be nice if appsformeego had a way to associate a git/bzr/svn/hg/whatever repository with an app | 16:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: i would like to be added, but not that much dev | 16:07 |
| Elleo | so you could see a "Get source" link for each app | 16:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: funkycode | 16:08 |
| thp | ZogG_laptop: you should have access now | 16:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: thanks | 16:09 |
| thp | Elleo: yep, one point of that harmattan repository would be that some apps' git repos would be published there for easier discoverability | 16:09 |
| Elleo | thp: yeah, but integration in apps for meego would make discoverability easier for apps that aren't hosted on github | 16:10 |
| thp | that's true | 16:10 |
| Elleo | most of my stuff tends to end up on either launchpad or gitorious nowdays, depending on if its a bzr or a git project | 16:10 |
| Elleo | pushing the gitorious stuff to a github repo wouldn't be a massive extra chore, but going from bzr <-> github would be | 16:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: it's public right? | 16:13 |
| Siva | thp: could you add me as well.. | 16:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think i need to push my app there, but on other side, there are tokens there oauth | 16:13 |
| thp | ZogG_laptop: you could push via ssh+key | 16:14 |
| thp | Siva: sure, just tell me your github username | 16:14 |
| Siva | thp: that would be sivabalan | 16:14 |
| thp | Siva: done | 16:15 |
| Siva | thp: ty! | 16:16 |
| MohammadAG | thp, me me me! :P | 16:18 |
| MohammadAG | oh wait, *asks self* do I have a github account...? | 16:18 |
| MohammadAG | meh, it costs $0/month | 16:19 |
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| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: you are gitorious guy? | 16:19 |
| MohammadAG | now if it was free.. | 16:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | lol | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | thp, MohammadAG | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, yes, problem? | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | :P | 16:20 |
| thp | MohammadAG: github is free for public repos | 16:20 |
| MohammadAG | thp, no, it clearly says $0/month, not free | 16:20 |
| * MohammadAG buys thp a sarcasm detector | 16:21 | |
| thp | MohammadAG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU | 16:21 |
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| thp | just hold up that sarcasm sign | 16:22 |
| MohammadAG | lmfao | 16:24 |
| * RST38h yawns | 16:25 | |
| RST38h | EHLO thp, MohammadAG | 16:25 |
| MohammadAG | ehlo RST38h | 16:25 |
| thp | ahoy RST38h :) | 16:25 |
| * merlin1991 holds up a sarcasm sign for no apparent reason | 16:25 | |
| MohammadAG | thp, I signed up on github, same nick | 16:26 |
| thp | MohammadAG: added | 16:32 |
| MohammadAG | thp, thanks :) | 16:32 |
| merlin1991 | MohammadAG: I assume you'll put sociality n there? | 16:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: you don't say so | 16:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: i see you ported classic print | 16:35 |
| thp | ZogG_laptop: just a quick initial port, nothing fancy | 16:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: hope to see it on apps4meego =) | 16:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | for tests | 16:36 |
| thp | sure! but it needs a bit more work (better icon and better load times, see the TODO file in the repo) | 16:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | =) | 16:46 |
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| ZogG_laptop | thp: what does publicize does on organizations on github, i see the button near my nick | 16:47 |
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| thp | ZogG_laptop: if you publicize, it will show your username on github.com/harmattan when nobody is logged in | 16:50 |
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| ZogG_laptop | 2םלת אישמלד | 16:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok, thanks | 16:52 |
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| djszapi | how is the variant property type in qml supposed to work for a list goal, like storing integers ? | 17:40 |
| djszapi | how can I bundle a list up into that ? | 17:40 |
| Appiah | If a device wont make outgoing calls, you reboot it , what logs should you be digging into? | 17:42 |
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| TMavica | tgalal ping | 18:06 |
| tgalal | TMavica: yow | 18:06 |
| TMavica | have you check out CepiPerez post | 18:08 |
| tgalal | link? | 18:08 |
| TMavica | he fully changed your wazapp UI and post a Zip file | 18:08 |
| TMavica | but he cant change the conversation | 18:08 |
| TMavica | in TMO | 18:08 |
| tgalal | really | 18:09 |
| TMavica | same contact UI as filebox | 18:09 |
| TMavica | yes | 18:09 |
| tgalal | let's see :D | 18:09 |
| TMavica | you check check | 18:09 |
| TMavica | I am using right now | 18:09 |
| TMavica | so nice | 18:09 |
| TMavica | lol | 18:09 |
| tgalal | whoa | 18:09 |
| tgalal | awesome | 18:09 |
| TMavica | LOL, he SAID he want change to bubble conversation too lor | 18:10 |
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| tgalal | TMavica: thanks for the tip! | 18:14 |
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| TMavica | HAHA | 18:16 |
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| TMavica | any news I will tell you here | 18:16 |
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| djszapi | beford: do you have a qt project account ? | 18:21 |
| beford | dunno | 18:25 |
| beford | I *think* so | 18:26 |
| beford | it uses SSO right? I registered on the wiki | 18:26 |
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| djszapi | sso ? | 18:29 |
| beford | single sign on | 18:29 |
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| beford | like the same account for all services under qt-project | 18:29 |
| djszapi | nothing else. | 18:29 |
| djszapi | there is a CLA signing, yes. | 18:29 |
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| djszapi | Does the Grid QML element support row and column spanning ? | 18:54 |
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| b0unc3 | hello | 19:53 |
| b0unc3 | to create an entry in the settings panel I've to create the dir /usr/share/duicontrolpanel/desktops/ ? | 19:54 |
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| rzr | khertan, u need that one http://nokians.fr/2012/05/lecran-du-nokia-lumia-900-mis-a-lepreuve-avec-un-marteau/ | 22:44 |
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| khertan | rzr: my n950 was dropped on floor 6 months ago and with only a minor scratch in the corner :) | 22:45 |
| khertan | but seems that it s the end today | 22:46 |
| rzr | khertan, yes that's why i read online | 22:46 |
| khertan | keep losing network | 22:46 |
| rzr | i would have resit if you were running wp7 | 22:46 |
| rzr | it ... | 22:46 |
| khertan | i selling the lumia 800 | 22:46 |
| khertan | two days after using it | 22:47 |
| khertan | hate that os | 22:47 |
| khertan | and need to buy new wheel for my car :) | 22:47 |
| khertan | more usefull than this shitty wp7 :) | 22:47 |
| khertan | my n950 seems have a cellular modem dying ... 22 reboot today to keep cellular network alive :( | 22:48 |
| khertan | will be time to look forward ... for an other plateform | 22:48 |
| khertan | or use that good old n900 maemo which are still doing notification on my desk | 22:48 |
| * khertan will not bought a phone whitout a physical keyboard | 22:49 | |
| thp | khertan: actually the n9 virtual keyboard with the tactile feedback is quite good | 22:49 |
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| thp | khertan: combined with some intelligence built into khteditor, you are probably at least as productive as with a hwkb ;) | 22:50 |
| Khertan_n950 | at least wifi still working | 22:50 |
| Khertan_n950 | will be difficult | 22:51 |
| Khertan_n950 | and too much pain to do something with a qml textarea :( | 22:52 |
| thp | khertan: just implement your own textarea widget | 22:52 |
| Khertan_n950 | thp, did you know any device which have python on it and really support it ? | 22:52 |
| thp | Khertan_n950: well, to be honest, harmattan is the one that has first-class python support | 22:53 |
| thp | Khertan_n950: if you are looking for other things, android does have SL4A and i've experimented a bit with porting pyside to it | 22:53 |
| thp | Khertan_n950: http://thp.io/2011/pyside-android/ | 22:53 |
| Khertan_n950 | thp, i ve tryed to do own by using a qgraphicproxy widget but since pr1.1 segfault without apparent reason | 22:53 |
| thp | Khertan_n950: have you tried a different graphicssystem (-graphicssystem switch if you pass the command line args to QApplication)? | 22:54 |
| Khertan_n950 | a bit tired doing workarround for qml | 22:54 |
| thp | Khertan_n950: i'm sure it can be debugged somehow ;) | 22:54 |
| Khertan_n950 | thp, probably but don t found how | 22:54 |
| thp | Khertan_n950: btw. do you plan on going to europython? | 22:54 |
| Khertan_n950 | nope | 22:55 |
| Khertan_n950 | where it s this year ? | 22:55 |
| thp | florence | 22:56 |
| Khertan_n950 | did you go ? | 22:56 |
| djszapi | why would you port pyside ? | 22:57 |
| Khertan_n950 | did you lose sometime cellular network on your n950 without being able to recover it ? | 22:57 |
| Khertan_n950 | except with a reboot ? | 22:58 |
| dm8tbr | yes, seems to depend on network or SIM though | 22:59 |
| dm8tbr | happens from time to time on sonera, happens next to never on saunalahti | 22:59 |
| Khertan_n950 | it s happen 2 or 3 time a week ... but today i need to reboot 27 times | 23:00 |
| Khertan_n950 | could be a sim problem ? | 23:00 |
| Khertan_n950 | but didn t have such problem on n900 | 23:01 |
| thp | Khertan_n950: i'm going, yes | 23:01 |
| thp | djszapi: just for fun ;) | 23:01 |
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| Khertan_n950 | thp: i ll maybe probably write a source hilighting editor with pygame this way will be fully portable :) | 23:02 |
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| thp | Khertan_n950: that'd be cool, yes :) | 23:07 |
| thp | or split the backend and the frontend - so that you could have the highlighting/editing backend + a pygame frontend and e.g. a qgraphicsview frontend | 23:08 |
| Khertan_n950 | yes with pygame i ll surely split back and frontend | 23:09 |
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