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| tgalal | setting icon for an accounts plugin, anyone? | 00:33 |
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| mankeli | soo.. does anyone know if it's possible to make program start without the transition? | 01:09 |
| mankeli | none of the apps does it, but the incoming phone call dialog does a different transition when it opens. dunno how the mechanism works tho | 01:12 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | man, this can of red bull smells wretched | 03:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | tastes ok but ugh | 03:15 |
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| alterego | I find those kinds of energy drinks pretty awful all round :P | 03:24 |
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| mzanetti_ | I'm trying to compile my app in OBS but I can't find the libqmsystem2-dev package. Anyone knows how to get that packge in there? | 03:37 |
| mankeli | jbos: | 03:39 |
| mankeli | oops. | 03:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: that's odd...is it in the harmattan-dev repos? | 03:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because C-OBS pulls packages off there so if it's there, it should work | 03:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | does it refuse to build with 'unresolvable' state, or does it start building and fail | 03:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because in the latter case, that isn't a missing package | 03:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | make sure you aren't using per-arch dependencies because those break on OBS | 03:41 |
| mzanetti_ | itsnotabigtruck: it fails on compilation | 03:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: ok, then see above | 03:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if it starts building and fails, OBS screwed up or you screwed up :p | 03:43 |
| mzanetti_ | itsnotabigtruck: most likely I did | 03:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because it doesn't initiate the build until all packages it *thinks* your package requires are available | 03:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and then it installs those packages before doing the actual build | 03:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but per-arch dependencies (the ones like foo [armel]) don't seem to work | 03:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so if you're doing that, that's the culprit | 03:44 |
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| mzanetti_ | itsnotabigtruck: I think the problem is that I don't have the dependency declared at all. problem is, I'm trying to find how the package name is but OBS search doesn't show it | 03:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: wait what? | 03:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, just link the build log | 03:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you just named a package so i assumed it was complaining about a missing package | 03:46 |
| mzanetti_ | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=xbmcremote&project=home%3Amzanetti&repository=Harmattan | 03:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: oh, ok...so it's not what you made it sound like at all :p | 03:47 |
| mzanetti_ | well, the package in the device is called qmsystem2. so I guessed the dev package would be qmsystem2-dev | 03:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's a missing package, but it's missing as in it's not requested at all | 03:47 |
| mzanetti_ | yes | 03:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if you specified it in the Build-Depends, it shouln't try to build it unless it's available | 03:48 |
| mzanetti_ | with missing I rather meant "I can't find it in the OBS search" | 03:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | maybe you didn't put it in the right spot | 03:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | forget about the OBS search | 03:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it doesn't know about packages in foreign repos | 03:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which includes all the SDK packages | 03:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so it's not a factor | 03:48 |
| mzanetti_ | ok | 03:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | apt-cache search in scratchbox is the best bet | 03:48 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | mzanetti_: where, exactly, did you put that dependency | 03:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), libqt4-dev, libqtm-dev, applauncherd-dev, aegis-builder, pkg-config, qjson-dev | 03:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because it's not there | 03:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | OBS bases everything off your DSC file | 03:50 |
| mzanetti_ | I tried a few builds now with putting it in the debian/control file | 03:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which is generated with your control file, yeah | 03:50 |
| mzanetti_ | ah... thats why it didn't care about :D | 03:50 |
| mzanetti_ | oh... | 03:50 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | btw libqmsystem2-dev is the correct package name | 03:50 |
| mzanetti_ | no... my dsc file is handwritten | 03:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but since you didn't put it anywhere obviously OBS isn't going to divine that it's what you wanted | 03:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh... | 03:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | are you using qt creator, or packaging it normally | 03:51 |
| mzanetti_ | ok... I think I start to understand things | 03:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm guessing qt creator | 03:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which tends to make everything very very painful | 03:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the moment you want to do something nokia didn't think of, which is most things | 03:51 |
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| mzanetti_ | I'm using qtcreator usually... works fine... today I thought about building the stuff on OBS | 03:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if your source tree is debian-style though, it's very easy to have it produce a DSC file along with your tar.gz | 03:52 |
| mzanetti_ | and I'm still trying to figure out how things work | 03:52 |
| mzanetti_ | so far I have a script which copies needed files to da debian-style directory and packages it up | 03:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | uggggggggh | 03:52 |
| mzanetti_ | heh | 03:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm not in an awesome mood right now and i really don't like dealing with qtc | 03:53 |
| mzanetti_ | ok... no problem... I'll figure it out... you saved me a lot of time already | 03:53 |
| mzanetti_ | thanks | 03:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | spent a couple hours a week or two ago in a wild goose chase that resulted in me finding out that qt creator treats certain paths magically | 03:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and insists on everything having particular filenames | 03:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anyway, DSC files aren't supposed to be handwritten | 03:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it might be your best bet because qt creator sucks | 03:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but normally, dpkg-buildpackage will clean your source tree, tar everything up, and build a dsc file out of debian/control | 03:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but qt creator's arrangement isn't normal, it doesn't even have a debian directory in a clean source tree | 03:54 |
| mzanetti_ | yes, I noticed that | 03:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so...i really wish someone would make something polished so that noobs have a chance at being able to upload to apps for meego | 03:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and build source packges in general | 03:56 |
| beford | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/314178_10150678841013360_290539813359_9108047_1444074152_n.jpg | 04:01 |
| mankeli | FINALLY \o/ | 04:01 |
| mankeli | app start without compositor animation | 04:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: what was the trick | 04:04 |
| mankeli | add _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DIALOG atom to _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE | 04:06 |
| mankeli | or _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_* (expect NORMAL), but some of those disable swiping | 04:06 |
| mankeli | i figured that out hours ago, but i had a nice bonus challenge with SDL :-D | 04:07 |
| mankeli | so, creating window manually and passing SDL_WINDOWID to SDL doesn't seem to work _at all_ (although it doesn't even work on desktop, so it might be that i'm neglecting something important), but luckily it's ok if i set the atom just after sdl_setvideomode | 04:09 |
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| mankeli | but: mankeli 1 - harmattan + sdl together 0 | 04:13 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | hmm, just started getting some truly WTF latency on my apartment inet connection | 04:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | now tethering | 04:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the hell is going on :| youtube is acting rather "special" right now | 04:55 |
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| beford | hacked | 05:03 |
| CreamyG31337 | wireless? apartments suck for that | 05:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | 1 IE9 window with 1 tab open to youtube = 200 MB | 05:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | efficient :/ not like the other browsers are any better, if anything chrome/fx are even worse | 05:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and CreamyG31337: both wired and wireless | 05:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | something's screwed up on a router | 05:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's not wireless interference | 05:07 |
| CreamyG31337 | yeah i had to upgrade to 16gb ram to avoid restarting all my web browsers every 24 hrs | 05:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah...i mean, shiny new websites take RAM, and uncompressed images do take striking amounts of space, but still...browser RAM consumption is out of control | 05:09 |
| CreamyG31337 | yeah they don't seem to release anything back to the system | 05:09 |
| CreamyG31337 | i dunno. could be the extentions or something too | 05:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/t8do1/so_i_commissioned_my_first_piece_of_art/c4kfxnk | 05:10 |
| CreamyG31337 | i am happy to blame adobe too | 05:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | fields of atomized horses | 05:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 05:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | flash is a huge RAM hog too | 05:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but it's not the principal cause of browser RAM bloat | 05:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | each of them independently uses up zillions of megs | 05:11 |
| CreamyG31337 | haha i wasted a lot of $ at the valve store | 05:13 |
| CreamyG31337 | i just keep that shit at work and nobody has a clue | 05:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i've got the Delivering the Future mug | 05:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | with the Black Mesa logo | 05:15 |
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| CreamyG31337 | aperture science mug for me :) | 05:18 |
| CreamyG31337 | i had a cool shirt from there, where the hell did it go... | 05:18 |
| CreamyG31337 | apparently my shirt is a lie too :( | 05:21 |
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| PaulePanter | ZogG_laptop: Regarding the N9 the problem was that I did not know, one had to select »use as mass storage medium« on the N9 to get it working. | 12:48 |
| PaulePanter | It is always such a stupid thing. Sorry for bothering you with that and wasting your time. | 12:48 |
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| ZogG_laptop | PaulePanter: no problem pal | 15:39 |
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| mzanetti_ | Has anyone figured out if its possible to use the multimedia buttons on the lockscreen with an own application? | 16:00 |
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| teleshoes | anyone know if i have to do something special to get qsound to work? i want to play a wav from pyside | 21:45 |
| teleshoes | QSound.play('/home/user/snd.wav') | 21:45 |
| teleshoes | fails silently | 21:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | literally | 21:51 |
| teleshoes | heh | 21:51 |
| teleshoes | just so | 21:51 |
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| MrModR | what does digsigsums error mean? | 22:28 |
| MrModR | I am trying to install a deb with my scripts and I get this error | 22:28 |
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| MrModR | can anyone help? | 22:30 |
| teleshoes | digsigsums is a file that has to be in the deb | 22:31 |
| teleshoes | has a list of all the sums of the installed files | 22:31 |
| teleshoes | if you change one of the files, next boot you get malf | 22:31 |
| teleshoes | whered you get the deb from? | 22:32 |
| MrModR | @teleshoes, I made the deb from my N900 with dpkg-deb | 22:32 |
| MrModR | its a bunch of scripts | 22:32 |
| teleshoes | n900 ? | 22:32 |
| teleshoes | build it in scratchbox | 22:32 |
| teleshoes | with dpkg-buildpackage | 22:33 |
| MrModR | dont have access to one... | 22:33 |
| teleshoes | and digsigsums will be automatically generated | 22:33 |
| teleshoes | to a computer? | 22:33 |
| MrModR | to a linux computer | 22:33 |
| teleshoes | get a thumbdrive, install a live linux distro on it | 22:33 |
| teleshoes | plug er in | 22:33 |
| MrModR | hmm... will it be persistent? | 22:34 |
| teleshoes | if you use ubuntu, yea | 22:34 |
| MrModR | ok so, I'll download the latest ubuntu live cd and install it onto a usb stick? | 22:34 |
| teleshoes | mmhmm, should be good | 22:34 |
| teleshoes | id recommend xubuntu | 22:34 |
| teleshoes | lighter weight | 22:35 |
| MrModR | but if i use a linux distro, do I need scratchbox? | 22:35 |
| teleshoes | yes | 22:35 |
| MrModR | cant i just directly use dpkg-deb? | 22:35 |
| teleshoes | no | 22:35 |
| MrModR | or dpkg-buildpackage | 22:35 |
| MrModR | hmm... | 22:35 |
| teleshoes | you need to generate some custom aegis-y things | 22:36 |
| MrModR | oh i see | 22:36 |
| teleshoes | so you need to use the cross-compilation tools provided by nokia | 22:36 |
| MrModR | I see | 22:36 |
| MrModR | How to install scratch box in ubuntu | 22:36 |
| teleshoes | one tic, ill get you the url | 22:36 |
| teleshoes | you download a python script and run it | 22:36 |
| teleshoes | period | 22:36 |
| MrModR | oh cool | 22:37 |
| teleshoes | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/stable/harmattan/harmattan-sdk-setup.py | 22:37 |
| teleshoes | it has to download about 1.6GB | 22:38 |
| teleshoes | for the two targets, armel and x86 | 22:38 |
| teleshoes | i dunno how easy this is gonna be on a thumbdrive install, what with it installing to /tmp by default | 22:38 |
| teleshoes | do you happen to have a ton of ram? | 22:38 |
| MrModR | is 3gb of ram = a ton? | 22:39 |
| teleshoes | no, 4gb is equal to one ton of ram | 22:40 |
| teleshoes | eh, youre better off actually installing a real linux distro side-by-side with windows | 22:40 |
| MrModR | what about virtualbox? | 22:41 |
| teleshoes | should work | 22:41 |
| teleshoes | i dunno though, ive never used windows | 22:41 |
| MrModR | ok, thanks for all the help. will report back soon :) | 22:42 |
| teleshoes | np | 22:42 |
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| teleshoes | QMediaPlayer.isAudioAvailable() => false | 22:50 |
| teleshoes | :( | 22:51 |
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| teleshoes | ARGH | 23:19 |
| teleshoes | its qt; you have to initialize your QMediaPlayer object in the same FILE that you create your QApp | 23:20 |
| teleshoes | qt is so stateful its disgusting | 23:20 |
| teleshoes | {e.g.: must construct an application before constructing a paint device} | 23:20 |
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