IRC log of #harmattan for Sunday, 2012-05-06

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tgalalsetting icon for an accounts plugin, anyone?00:33
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mankelisoo.. does anyone know if it's possible to make program start without the transition?01:09
mankelinone of the apps does it, but the incoming phone call dialog does a different transition when it opens. dunno how the mechanism works tho01:12
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itsnotabigtruckman, this can of red bull smells wretched03:14
itsnotabigtrucktastes ok but ugh03:15
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alteregoI find those kinds of energy drinks pretty awful all round :P03:24
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mzanetti_I'm trying to compile my app in OBS but I can't find the libqmsystem2-dev package. Anyone knows how to get that packge in there?03:37
itsnotabigtruckmzanetti_: that's it in the harmattan-dev repos?03:40
itsnotabigtruckbecause C-OBS pulls packages off there so if it's there, it should work03:40
itsnotabigtruckdoes it refuse to build with 'unresolvable' state, or does it start building and fail03:40
itsnotabigtruckbecause in the latter case, that isn't a missing package03:41
itsnotabigtruckmake sure you aren't using per-arch dependencies because those break on OBS03:41
mzanetti_itsnotabigtruck: it fails on compilation03:42
itsnotabigtruckmzanetti_: ok, then see above03:43
itsnotabigtruckif it starts building and fails, OBS screwed up or you screwed up :p03:43
mzanetti_itsnotabigtruck: most likely I did03:43
itsnotabigtruckbecause it doesn't initiate the build until all packages it *thinks* your package requires are available03:44
itsnotabigtruckand then it installs those packages before doing the actual build03:44
itsnotabigtruckbut per-arch dependencies (the ones like foo [armel]) don't seem to work03:44
itsnotabigtruckso if you're doing that, that's the culprit03:44
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mzanetti_itsnotabigtruck: I think the problem is that I don't have the dependency declared at all. problem is, I'm trying to find how the package name is but OBS search doesn't show it03:46
itsnotabigtruckmzanetti_: wait what?03:46
itsnotabigtruckok, just link the build log03:46
itsnotabigtruckyou just named a package so i assumed it was complaining about a missing package03:46
itsnotabigtruckmzanetti_: oh, it's not what you made it sound like at all :p03:47
mzanetti_well, the package in the device is called qmsystem2. so I guessed the dev package would be qmsystem2-dev03:47
itsnotabigtruckit's a missing package, but it's missing as in it's not requested at all03:47
itsnotabigtruckif you specified it in the Build-Depends, it shouln't try to build it unless it's available03:48
mzanetti_with missing I rather meant "I can't find it in the OBS search"03:48
itsnotabigtruckmaybe you didn't put it in the right spot03:48
itsnotabigtruckforget about the OBS search03:48
itsnotabigtruckit doesn't know about packages in foreign repos03:48
itsnotabigtruckwhich includes all the SDK packages03:48
itsnotabigtruckso it's not a factor03:48
itsnotabigtruckapt-cache search in scratchbox is the best bet03:48
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itsnotabigtruckmzanetti_: where, exactly, did you put that dependency03:49
itsnotabigtruckBuild-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), libqt4-dev, libqtm-dev, applauncherd-dev, aegis-builder, pkg-config, qjson-dev03:49
itsnotabigtruckbecause it's not there03:49
itsnotabigtruckOBS bases everything off your DSC file03:50
mzanetti_I tried a few builds now with putting it in the debian/control file03:50
itsnotabigtruckwhich is generated with your control file, yeah03:50
mzanetti_ah... thats why it didn't care about :D03:50
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itsnotabigtruckbtw libqmsystem2-dev is the correct package name03:50
mzanetti_no... my dsc file is handwritten03:50
itsnotabigtruckbut since you didn't put it anywhere obviously OBS isn't going to divine that it's what you wanted03:50
itsnotabigtruckare you using qt creator, or packaging it normally03:51
mzanetti_ok... I think I start to understand things03:51
itsnotabigtrucki'm guessing qt creator03:51
itsnotabigtruckwhich tends to make everything very very painful03:51
itsnotabigtruckthe moment you want to do something nokia didn't think of, which is most things03:51
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mzanetti_I'm using qtcreator usually... works fine... today I thought about building the stuff on OBS03:52
itsnotabigtruckif your source tree is debian-style though, it's very easy to have it produce a DSC file along with your tar.gz03:52
mzanetti_and I'm still trying to figure out how things work03:52
mzanetti_so far I have a script which copies needed files to da debian-style directory and packages it up03:52
itsnotabigtrucki'm not in an awesome mood right now and i really don't like dealing with qtc03:53
mzanetti_ok... no problem... I'll figure it out... you saved me a lot of time already03:53
itsnotabigtruckspent a couple hours a week or two ago in a wild goose chase that resulted in me finding out that qt creator treats certain paths magically03:53
itsnotabigtruckand insists on everything having particular filenames03:53
itsnotabigtruckanyway, DSC files aren't supposed to be handwritten03:53
itsnotabigtruckit might be your best bet because qt creator sucks03:54
itsnotabigtruckbut normally, dpkg-buildpackage will clean your source tree, tar everything up, and build a dsc file out of debian/control03:54
itsnotabigtruckbut qt creator's arrangement isn't normal, it doesn't even have a debian directory in a clean source tree03:54
mzanetti_yes, I noticed that03:55
itsnotabigtruckso...i really wish someone would make something polished so that noobs have a chance at being able to upload to apps for meego03:56
itsnotabigtruckand build source packges in general03:56
mankeliFINALLY \o/04:01
mankeliapp start without compositor animation04:02
itsnotabigtruckmankeli: what was the trick04:04
mankelior _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_* (expect NORMAL), but some of those disable swiping04:06
mankelii figured that out hours ago, but i had a nice bonus challenge with SDL :-D04:07
mankeliso, creating window manually and passing SDL_WINDOWID to SDL doesn't seem to work _at all_ (although it doesn't even work on desktop, so it might be that i'm neglecting something important), but luckily it's ok if i set the atom just after sdl_setvideomode04:09
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mankelibut: mankeli 1 - harmattan + sdl together 004:13
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itsnotabigtruckhmm, just started getting some truly WTF latency on my apartment inet connection04:51
itsnotabigtrucknow tethering04:51
itsnotabigtruckthe hell is going on :| youtube is acting rather "special" right now04:55
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CreamyG31337wireless? apartments suck for that05:06
itsnotabigtruck1 IE9 window with 1 tab open to youtube = 200 MB05:07
itsnotabigtruckefficient :/ not like the other browsers are any better, if anything chrome/fx are even worse05:07
itsnotabigtruckand CreamyG31337: both wired and wireless05:07
itsnotabigtrucksomething's screwed up on a router05:07
itsnotabigtruckit's not wireless interference05:07
CreamyG31337yeah i had to upgrade to 16gb ram to avoid restarting all my web browsers every 24 hrs05:07
itsnotabigtruckyeah...i mean, shiny new websites take RAM, and uncompressed images do take striking amounts of space, but still...browser RAM consumption is out of control05:09
CreamyG31337yeah they don't seem to release anything back to the system05:09
CreamyG31337i dunno. could be the extentions or something too05:10
CreamyG31337i am happy to blame adobe too05:10
itsnotabigtruckfields of atomized horses05:10
itsnotabigtruckflash is a huge RAM hog too05:10
itsnotabigtruckbut it's not the principal cause of browser RAM bloat05:10
itsnotabigtruckeach of them independently uses up zillions of megs05:11
CreamyG31337haha i wasted a lot of $ at the valve store05:13
CreamyG31337i just keep that shit at work and nobody has a clue05:14
itsnotabigtrucki've got the Delivering the Future mug05:15
itsnotabigtruckwith the Black Mesa logo05:15
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CreamyG31337aperture science  mug for me :)05:18
CreamyG31337i had a cool shirt from there, where the hell did it go...05:18
CreamyG31337apparently my shirt is a lie too :(05:21
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DocScrutinizeraperture science shower curtain06:32
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PaulePanterZogG_laptop: Regarding the N9 the problem was that I did not know, one had to select »use as mass storage medium« on the N9 to get it working.12:48
PaulePanterIt is always such a stupid thing. Sorry for bothering you with that and wasting your time.12:48
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ZogG_laptopPaulePanter: no problem pal15:39
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mzanetti_Has anyone figured out if its possible to use the multimedia buttons on the lockscreen with an own application?16:00
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teleshoesanyone know if i have to do something special to get qsound to work? i want to play a wav from pyside21:45'/home/user/snd.wav')21:45
teleshoesfails silently21:46
teleshoesjust so21:51
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MrModRwhat does digsigsums error mean?22:28
MrModRI am trying to install a deb with my scripts and I get this error22:28
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MrModRcan anyone help?22:30
teleshoesdigsigsums is a file that has to be in the deb22:31
teleshoeshas a list of all the sums of the installed files22:31
teleshoesif you change one of the files, next boot you get malf22:31
teleshoeswhered you get the deb from?22:32
MrModR@teleshoes, I made the deb from my N900 with dpkg-deb22:32
MrModRits a bunch of scripts22:32
teleshoesn900 ?22:32
teleshoesbuild it in scratchbox22:32
teleshoeswith dpkg-buildpackage22:33
MrModRdont have access to one...22:33
teleshoesand digsigsums will be automatically generated22:33
teleshoesto a computer?22:33
MrModRto a linux computer22:33
teleshoesget a thumbdrive, install a live linux distro on it22:33
teleshoesplug er in22:33
MrModRhmm... will it be persistent?22:34
teleshoesif you use ubuntu, yea22:34
MrModRok so, I'll download the latest ubuntu live cd and install it onto a usb stick?22:34
teleshoesmmhmm, should be good22:34
teleshoesid recommend xubuntu22:34
teleshoeslighter weight22:35
MrModRbut if i use a linux distro, do I need scratchbox?22:35
MrModRcant i just directly use dpkg-deb?22:35
MrModRor dpkg-buildpackage22:35
teleshoesyou need to generate some custom aegis-y things22:36
MrModRoh i see22:36
teleshoesso you need to use the cross-compilation tools provided by nokia22:36
MrModRI see22:36
MrModRHow to install scratch box in ubuntu22:36
teleshoesone tic, ill get you the url22:36
teleshoesyou download a python script and run it22:36
MrModRoh cool22:37
teleshoesit has to download about 1.6GB22:38
teleshoesfor the two targets, armel and x8622:38
teleshoesi dunno how easy this is gonna be on a thumbdrive install, what with it installing to /tmp by default22:38
teleshoesdo you happen to have a ton of ram?22:38
MrModRis 3gb of ram = a ton?22:39
teleshoesno, 4gb is equal to one ton of ram22:40
teleshoeseh, youre better off actually installing a real linux distro side-by-side with windows22:40
MrModRwhat about virtualbox?22:41
teleshoesshould work22:41
teleshoesi dunno though, ive never used windows22:41
MrModRok, thanks for all the help. will report back soon :)22:42
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teleshoesQMediaPlayer.isAudioAvailable() => false22:50
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teleshoesits qt; you have to initialize your QMediaPlayer object in the same FILE that you create your QApp23:20
teleshoesqt is so stateful its disgusting23:20
teleshoes{e.g.: must construct an application before constructing a paint device}23:20
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