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| mankeli | crappiness was reverses | 00:00 |
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| * rzr 's preferred : harmattan, nattamrah, harm, meemo ,maemian, meemo, deblet, haus | 00:00 | |
| rzr | itsnotabigtruck, nothing against you :-) | 00:00 |
| mankeli | well, to be honest, there is no clear winner there so i don't really care | 00:01 |
| mankeli | just make those damn packages :-) | 00:01 |
| rzr | we should invite the mer guys to screw it all :-) | 00:01 |
| rzr | btw there're already harmattan packages in the shared repo | 00:02 |
| rzr | i think we should promote this fantastic wind | 00:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: regarding fuse-utils...almost done | 00:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just adding some finishing touches | 00:02 |
| mankeli | :) | 00:03 |
| mankeli | rzr: well it's long, but it's the most clearest. all others are quite non-obvious imo | 00:04 |
| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Could you assist me a bit? | 00:04 |
| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: It seems like the others are fully occupied with programming ;-) | 00:04 |
| mankeli | s/programming/being anal about names/ | 00:04 |
| trip0 | so music player isn't finding all my music | 00:05 |
| trip0 | is there a way to manually add? | 00:05 |
| mankeli | DrGrov: http://nds1.nokia.com/.../guides/Nokia_N9_UG_en.pdf ? | 00:05 |
| mankeli | oops, dots in the url | 00:05 |
| DrGrov | mankeli: Yes, I saw the dots and tried :) | 00:06 |
| DrGrov | mankeli: No wonder it did not work :) No problem | 00:06 |
| mankeli | well, just google "n9 user manual pdf" | 00:06 |
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| DrGrov | mankeli: Well, I have issues with my web browser so I have problems to actually get a hold of it :( | 00:07 |
| DrGrov | But thanks still, I will find out some other way to get it. | 00:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, it really isn't very hard to find the manual on the nokia website | 00:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if you have issues with your web browser than fix that first | 00:08 |
| rzr | http://nds1.nokia.com/phones/files/guides/Nokia_N9_UG_en.pdf | 00:08 |
| mankeli | DrGrov: it's the lucky day! i had to try if duckduckgo allows you to copy link address to clipboard and it seems that it does! so http://nds1.nokia.com/phones/files/guides/Nokia_N9_UG_en.pdf | 00:08 |
| DrGrov | mankeli: Well I will be damned! :) | 00:09 |
| DrGrov | mankeli: Thanks for getting it for me :) | 00:09 |
| DrGrov | rzr: Thank you as well for getting it for me :) | 00:09 |
| DrGrov | And I also testing a SSH solution, this also handy to test with wget. | 00:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=fuse-utils&project=home%3Aitsnotabigtruck&repository=Harmattan | 00:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: once that build is done it should be fully functional | 00:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | note that it must be incepted | 00:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | with that installed, then you can use sshfs with normal permissions | 00:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (sshfs doesn't need to be incepted) | 00:13 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | it's supposed to be set up so that you have to be in the fuse group to mount stuff, i made it so it doesn't matter | 00:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | probably ought to fix that later but that's kind of complicated | 00:18 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: ping | 00:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you wanted this >_> so you should install it and let me know if it works | 00:27 |
| mankeli | pong! | 00:32 |
| mankeli | lets see | 00:32 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: wanted anything? | 00:33 |
| rzr | itsnotabigtruck, does it depends on inception ? or how will it behave if run as root without inception ? | 00:36 |
| mankeli | fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied | 00:37 |
| mankeli | as normal user | 00:38 |
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| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, just a guy asking questions about sowatch on that video I posted. | 00:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Wanted to know about custom widgets. | 00:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD7FisaZsKM | 00:41 |
| javispedro | ah | 00:41 |
| javispedro | well, we certainly have more stuff that the stock android app | 00:42 |
| javispedro | there are some forks around like the one with the dancing guy battery-waster animation one which I'm ofcourse not planning to do :) | 00:42 |
| mankeli | itsnotabigtruck: with devel-su root it works. mountpoint isn't accessible as normal user without allow_other option, but i guess that's normal | 00:42 |
| mankeli | itsnotabigtruck: hmm, i thought fusermount would have it's sticky bit set? | 00:44 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: answered | 00:45 |
| mankeli | can i set it manually to fusermount binary, or does aegis do some magic checksum check and give me malf again if i do that? | 00:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, thanks. | 00:49 |
| javispedro | I ponder why some days suddenly I get a bazillion people following random projects of mine on gitorious | 00:50 |
| javispedro | they look too human to be spambots, and even if they were spambots I don't see the spam | 00:51 |
| javispedro | maybe gitorious accumulates notifications and throws them all on friday | 00:52 |
| rzr | GeneralAntilles, $199.00 | 00:52 |
| rzr | GeneralAntilles, ouch | 00:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Ouch? | 00:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | Cheap for a good watch. | 00:52 |
| javispedro | I do think that it is a bit expensive | 00:53 |
| javispedro | btw | 00:53 |
| javispedro | the leather on my mw has started smelling "funny" | 00:53 |
| rzr | well i live without watch for decades now | 00:53 |
| GeneralAntilles | Strap is shit, sure. | 00:53 |
| javispedro | well, the cheap casio straps I used to wear always broke in 3-6 months :) | 00:54 |
| javispedro | this one seems to last somewhat | 00:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | Crappy Chinese leather. | 00:54 |
| GeneralAntilles | I haven't worked myself up to replacing it yet, though. | 00:54 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: btw, saw http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android ? | 00:55 |
| javispedro | the inpulse guys are behind that one | 00:56 |
| javispedro | so one can expect it will some have well-known glaring usability hole :) | 00:57 |
| javispedro | and that it will be somewhat closed | 00:57 |
| rzr | paper watch http://www.suck.uk.com/products/paperwatch | 00:57 |
| javispedro | (for the inpulse, they asked you to _upload your source codes_ to them) | 00:57 |
| javispedro | rzr: once you get one of those watch-screens there's no way back :) | 00:58 |
| lardman | Apparently not compatible with WP7 and no comment on Linux re the pebble | 00:58 |
| lardman | evening all ;) | 00:59 |
| javispedro | more like "wp7 is not compatible" with the pebble | 00:59 |
| lardman | well yeah probably, considering it can't even send files over BT | 00:59 |
| javispedro | and "iphone compatibility" means: we are wasting some of our already constrained power-budget to add the stupid apple authentication chip | 01:00 |
| lardman | they have a special Bluetooth chip? | 01:00 |
| javispedro | yep | 01:00 |
| lardman | oh right | 01:00 |
| lardman | rubbish | 01:01 |
| lardman | worse is that one sees some quite cool things being made to plug into iPhones | 01:01 |
| lardman | I saw an oscilloscope the other day | 01:01 |
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| lardman | not useful, but still | 01:01 |
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| lardman | night all | 01:02 |
| javispedro | night lardman | 01:03 |
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| SpeedEvil | javispedro: It's fun! | 01:04 |
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| * SpeedEvil sings "It's fun to filter with a Kalman" - to the tune of "charter an accountant" | 01:04 | |
| javispedro | :) | 01:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | back | 01:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: hmm | 01:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: with aegis, the suid bit doesn't do anything | 01:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's supposed to work as normal user | 01:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and the mountpoint's only supposed to be accessible as the user that ran fusermount | 01:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, interesting. | 01:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hope Metawatch gets more colors out there at some point. | 01:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | Watching eink update seconds on your wrist is going to be exhausting. | 01:09 |
| javispedro | and probably battery exhausting.. | 01:09 |
| javispedro | what I dislike currently most about the metawatch is that it has the hardware to reach much higher battery figures, and yet it doesn't. | 01:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: uh oh...looks like it works with develsh permissions but not without | 01:10 |
| mankeli | yup | 01:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i was testing from the developer account and develsh so i guess i missed it | 01:10 |
| mankeli | works just like it did with opensh, but now with develsh :) | 01:10 |
| mankeli | so it's an improvement! | 01:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, I'm not abusing mine that much during the day. | 01:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | But I get 2 solid days without issue. | 01:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | So, meh? | 01:11 |
| mankeli | anyway, i'll have to sleep now | 01:11 |
| mankeli | good night | 01:11 |
| javispedro | GeneralAntilles: I get 4 on average! | 01:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | I could probably get more | 01:12 |
| GeneralAntilles | But I haven't run it down to empty yet. | 01:12 |
| javispedro | but e.g. the other TI watch gets a month | 01:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: ohhhhh | 01:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | when logged in as developer | 01:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you have GRP::root | 01:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and /dev/fuse is 0660 root:root | 01:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i *thought* i fixed that | 01:16 |
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| diorahman | how to change to dark theme on N950? :-? | 02:30 |
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| ieatlint | ok, i now officially feel like a nokia tool... i've got a dozen nokia phones on my desk and am drinking a nokia branded energy drink | 03:24 |
| ieatlint | while wearing a qt t-shirt | 03:25 |
| * ieatlint needs help | 03:25 | |
| diorahman | ieatlint: awesome :-) | 03:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: nokia branded...energy drink? | 03:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | :O | 03:34 |
| ieatlint | yeah, it was from a promotional event | 03:36 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: well, you can counter the feeling by hacking up something with inception :) | 04:17 |
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| merlin1991 | ieatlint: I need the shirt and the drink, then I'm a tool aswell | 04:43 |
| merlin1991 | though it's not exactly a dozen phones here :D | 04:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | I've got a stack of 5 N900s sitting on the shelf in front of me. | 04:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | I should do something productive with them. | 04:59 |
| merlin1991 | wtf 5? | 05:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | 3 purchased, 2 from Nokia. | 05:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm not clear on how it happened, either. | 05:02 |
| merlin1991 | and what were you doing initially with 5 devices? | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, 1 was a loaned to friend for about 1.5 years. | 05:02 |
| merlin1991 | okay 4 then :D | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | I didn't START with 5 devices. | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | They just multiplied. | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Started with 1 | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | then it went downhill from there. | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Was on my prototype for about a year. | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Then the USB port came out | 05:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | replaced that | 05:02 |
| ieatlint | haha, yeah | 05:03 |
| ieatlint | funny how they multiply | 05:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | got that one wet at Universal | 05:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Replaced it. | 05:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Dunno about the 4th one. | 05:03 |
| merlin1991 | so many functional ones do you have currently then? | 05:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Fully? 2 | 05:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | 1 dead one | 05:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | and 2 without USB ports. | 05:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | The DDP and the proto both are portless. | 05:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | What's worse is I also have 2 N800s and 2 770s. | 05:04 |
| merlin1991 | I've got 1 with a dead modem, one with a semi working modem, and one fully functional | 05:05 |
| merlin1991 | silly thing is, that I still use the semi functional one instead of swapping to the fully functional device :D | 05:05 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's a pain changing devices. | 05:06 |
| merlin1991 | well the semi functional one just doesn't go into 2g and has bad reception most of the time | 05:07 |
| merlin1991 | but it still "works" :) | 05:07 |
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| merlin1991 | hm any thoughts on moving a german keyboard into a device that originally had an english keyboard? | 05:11 |
| merlin1991 | I better head over to #maemo with that though :D | 05:11 |
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| Elleo | oh neat, I didn't realise the microphone could do stereo recording | 05:52 |
| Elleo | all the voice recorder apps I fiddled with in the past just did really poor quality mono recordings | 05:53 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders if GeneralAntilles will share his secrets how to breed devices | 05:53 | |
| GeneralAntilles | Put them on a shelf together, add water and money. | 05:54 |
| Elleo | http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/n9jokosher.ogg <-- first successful recording from my Jokosher (audio editor) n9 port :) | 05:54 |
| Elleo | haven't written the qml elements for displaying/manipulating the waveforms yet though, so you can't do much with it once you've recorded things | 05:55 |
| ieatlint | Elleo: there are two mics on the phone... not sure if stereo is exactly how i'd describe it | 05:55 |
| Elleo | ieatlint: well it acts like a stereo mic | 05:55 |
| ieatlint | there's a mic attached to the flash, used for noise cancellation and video recording | 05:55 |
| Elleo | you can hear me off to the left side of the phone, with my finger rubbing the right side slightly | 05:56 |
| ieatlint | yeah, but you don't get valuably unique audio channels "in stereo" | 05:56 |
| ieatlint | ie, there is no left/right | 05:56 |
| Elleo | ieatlint: not entirely sure what you mean, since there's a clear left/right separation in that clip | 05:57 |
| Elleo | according to the wikipedia page the main microphone alone is what provides stereo recording | 05:58 |
| Elleo | so its not using that and the noise cancellation one, its just that the main mike is a stereo one | 05:58 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the n950 definirelay has perfectly symmetric decent stereo mics | 06:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | definitely* | 06:05 |
| Elleo | yeah, I'm using an n950; I assume the n9's mikes are similar | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | N9 probably a bit less so, but I don't have a real N9 here to check | 06:06 |
| Elleo | and the wikipedia page suggests its a stereo mike too | 06:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's no stereo mic | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | it's 2 mono mics | 06:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | N9 doesn't have these microphone holes like N950, I guess | 06:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably the main mono mic is colocated to the mono speaker | 06:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | at "bottom end" of device | 06:09 |
| Elleo | hmm, seems a shame if the n9 doesn't have as nice a mike as the n950 | 06:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's as reasonable a complaint as about the poor kbd of N9 ;-D | 06:10 |
| Elleo | heh | 06:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess the "left"/ambient mic is via AV receptacle aperture | 06:11 |
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| Arie | is anyone here that knows how to use the maemo mailing list? | 06:32 |
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| trupheenix | anyone help me here with QML WebView on harmattan? i am unable to get it to Orient correctly on the device. | 08:17 |
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| jonni | trupheenix: if your talking about orientation, then you just need to put webview inside PageStackWindow element to get automatic orientation switching. | 08:55 |
| trupheenix | jonni, but why? in symbian i don't need to do this. i just put a flickable and set the orientation in my main.cpp. | 09:00 |
| trupheenix | jonni, ok i am trying. let me see. | 09:01 |
| trupheenix | jonni, how do i make the same project work for symbian? i think i need to have a different code base then. | 09:01 |
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| jonni | trupheenix: because only the components (pagestackwindow handles orientation automaticly in harmattan). Without it you would have to listen X events yourself and do orientation manually. | 09:21 |
| jonni | trupheenix: well symbian has pagestackwindow too, so in theory you can have same codebase, but in reality might be easier to have different | 09:22 |
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| trupheenix | jonni, ok | 09:46 |
| Jeffrey04 | /join #N9 | 09:46 |
| Jeffrey04 | oops | 09:47 |
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| Anssi138 | Jeffrey04: sounds painful :) | 10:02 |
| Jeffrey04 | Anssi138: definitely lol, I get confused when switching different input methods lol | 10:03 |
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| beford | hi | 10:05 |
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| Anssi138 | ho | 10:08 |
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| trupheenix | i wanted to know how i can create a new QML element by inheriting from an exiting one? I cannot find the path to the QDeclarativeWebView headers. suggestions? | 10:41 |
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| pa | so the last batch of N950 will be released to lucky devs? | 11:19 |
| pa | how is it possible to apply for one? | 11:19 |
| pa | :) | 11:19 |
| SpeedEvil | http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005134.html | 11:21 |
| SpeedEvil | read, understand, apply | 11:21 |
| SpeedEvil | or actually prepare your application | 11:21 |
| pa | well i read and understood, but i didnt get what are the requirements to apply. Like take one of the missing apps or porting an app (stating which) to qt5? | 11:25 |
| SpeedEvil | yes | 11:26 |
| SpeedEvil | Clearly - if you're able to port Angry Birds, you're likely to have more priority than someone writing a geocaching app. | 11:28 |
| pa | thanks | 11:30 |
| pa | i was planning to add support to multiple contacts source from gmail | 11:30 |
| pa | maybe i can add it to the list | 11:30 |
| pa | (actually i have a prototype already) | 11:30 |
| pa | by the way, how is it possible that here N9 has 5 colums of icons? http://www.n9fanclub.com/2012/04/video-nokia-n9-vs-nokia-lumia-800-meego.html | 11:31 |
| pa | about the geocaching, isnt it the same as what cloudgps does? | 11:32 |
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| spenap | pa: about the 5 columns, I think there was some CSS setting, and "in the forums", someone explained how to do it. But I can't point you to anything useful | 11:53 |
| pa | ah okay, thanks :) | 11:53 |
| pa | i'll look for it as soon as i get some time then | 11:53 |
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| auenf | pa, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80600 | 12:31 |
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| trupheenix | any pointers on how to initiate a phone call from my QWebView application using the tel:// protocol? | 12:37 |
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| Anssi138 | i think the default app might be defined somehwere in /etc | 13:27 |
| Anssi138 | or somewhere.. ContentAction should take care of such things. | 13:32 |
| Anssi138 | /etc/magic was empty | 13:33 |
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| lardman | morning | 13:38 |
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| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: turned up yet another kernel bug about the upstart thingie. | 15:09 |
| djszapi | had to hard code a sleep 30, heh :-) | 15:10 |
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| ]predator[ | anyone have way to fix gallery issue on pr 1.2 without reset? | 16:08 |
| gabriel9|work | what fix? | 16:15 |
| mankeli | http://electrontu.be/n9/12040027.jpg heh, bottom of the n9's microusb has been ripped out | 16:17 |
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| ]predator[ | gabriel9|work, gallery not showing any photos :| | 16:36 |
| leinir | that's uhm... kind of impressive, mankeli ;) | 16:37 |
| gabriel9|work | :/ i did not hear about that bug | 16:37 |
| gabriel9|work | i lost my adapter :( | 16:38 |
| gabriel9|work | anyone have one extra? | 16:38 |
| phako | ]predator[: do you get your contacts? | 16:38 |
| ]predator[ | there was no contacts | 16:39 |
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| phako | tbf: was the contacts optimizer ever released to store? | 16:45 |
| tbf | phako, not that i know | 16:45 |
| phako | awesome | 16:45 |
| tbf | phako, but you also don't need it after upgrading to pr1.2 | 16:49 |
| phako | ah right, it was 1.2 | 16:50 |
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| ]predator[ | Package libnet-daemon-perl is not available, but is referred to by another package. :| | 16:58 |
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| maarten570 | hi, do any of you use the alarm clock on the n9? | 17:03 |
| jonni | mankeli: nice picture, I was just planning to change microusb connector on one of my spare n9's | 17:05 |
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| SpeedEvil | mankeli: looks like an easy fix fortuantely | 17:10 |
| jonni | those are really small as shit, so needs a really steady hand to get new one in. | 17:12 |
| maarten570 | A problem i'm having is that the phone asks for the sim pin code, when it boots to start the alarm, so alarm won't sound until pin is entered. I was wondering if there's any other people with this problem. | 17:12 |
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| ZogG_laptop | mankeli: how does usb broke thing happen? | 17:54 |
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| mankeli | jonni: thanks. i have to order a new connector (and few new torxes, since i broke one) any suggestions where i should order those? | 18:36 |
| mankeli | ZogG_laptop: previous owner dropped the phone while usb-cable was plugged in, and the connector took the hit | 18:37 |
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| jonni | mankeli: these were atleast quite cheap and free postage http://www.ebay.ie/itm/290690626934 | 18:39 |
| mankeli | i was thinking about klc.fi | 18:40 |
| mankeli | some company that works in salo | 18:41 |
| jonni | well yes, that would deliver much faster | 18:41 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | what | 22:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | *what's up | 22:12 |
| RzR | was reading a nfc article | 22:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i really need to stop missing the apostrophe on this keyboard | 22:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's not even like i have huge fingers, i guess it's just that the ' is ever so slightly to the left of where i expect it | 22:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | RzR: hmm, what about nfc? | 22:13 |
| RzR | well i was wondering about cool usage | 22:14 |
| RzR | and not using it only for tracking paying etc | 22:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | heh | 22:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the problem is that most of the cool applications rely on everyone having an nfc phone, or something like that | 22:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | they don't | 22:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw anyone want to test this opptimizer deb i prepared | 22:16 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | i can't conveniently test it right now so i don't really know if it works | 22:16 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | rzr ^ anyone else | 22:28 |
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| RzR | do i need to install inception along ? | 22:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: yeah, it requires inception | 22:30 |
| RzR | humm I prefer to not install it now ... | 22:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: ...why not? | 22:31 |
| RzR | inception is a great tool | 22:31 |
| RzR | but i prefer stay away from aegis for now... | 22:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: what do you mean? | 22:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i mean, you can't really stay away from aegis on the N9 | 22:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | everyone's pretty much stuck with it | 22:33 |
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| RzR | I mean i want to reply on platform policy for now ... not doing harcore hacks on my handset | 22:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: but hardcore hacks are the best hacks :D | 22:40 |
| RzR | I am not against but not now | 22:41 |
| RzR | the planets are not in good alignment for that | 22:41 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | heh | 22:43 |
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| FiSHBoY | I'm attempting to fix someone's N9 that wasn't booting, got a rescue init on it, the disk shows up (as /dev/sdd, no enumerated disks), but does nothing but spit out I/O errors if I try to access it, I'm pretty sure that means the storage is fried, but I wanted to ask if anyone had a second opinion. :) | 23:22 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | FiSHBoY: afaik the rescue init doesn't always work (ever work?) | 23:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you might have to try several times | 23:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also booting that put the n9 into open mode until you reflash the entire thing | 23:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | this sounds like a special case though...maybe the storage IS fried | 23:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it could be a fried emmc | 23:26 |
| FiSHBoY | yeah, I had assumed that the rescue init worked since the disk device showed up via usb, but I'll try it a few more times anyways. Yeah, I'm not really worried about reflashing the whole thing to stock, since it didn't boot at all when I got it and they aren't worried about the user data ;) | 23:28 |
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| FiSHBoY | can't list partitions or anything... but yeah, I'll poke at it a little more, I just thought I'd ask in case anyone had something else magical to try. thanks! | 23:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | FiSHBoY: what happens if you try to reflash it | 23:31 |
| SpeedEvil | I'd suggest reflowing the EMMC | 23:31 |
| SpeedEvil | But that is a bit harder | 23:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if you don't care about the data, then you could try it | 23:31 |
| SpeedEvil | And involves more than wrapping it in towels. | 23:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if it explodes violently, it's probably a dead emmc | 23:31 |
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| FiSHBoY | hah, chuck it in the toaster oven? ;) | 23:31 |
| FiSHBoY | if I try a full reflash it fails on rootfs at 32768/total | 23:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | is the unit in warranty? are you not in an area where nokia tries to shirk its warranty obligations (us/canada)? | 23:32 |
| FiSHBoY | but everything else flashes | 23:32 |
| FiSHBoY | haha, I'm in Canada | 23:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | guess you're in canada, so that's bad | 23:32 |
| FiSHBoY | well, it's not mine ;) | 23:32 |
| FiSHBoY | mine is fine | 23:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | there seems to have been a not-insignificant number of catastrophic emmc failures | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | I suggest reflashing with a proper power supply and fully charged battery, at reaosnable room temperature | 23:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or non-catastrophic failures (such as ecc errors) | 23:33 |
| FiSHBoY | yeah, the battery was also at 0% when I got it, took some playing to get it to start charging at first :P | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, scratch the power supply, make that "proper USB host port" | 23:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: sounds like the problem is way deeper than low battery | 23:34 |
| FiSHBoY | but at least I was able to get it to charge (stares at N900 with dead battery in it) | 23:34 |
| FiSHBoY | yeah, I have it plugged into a USB port directly on my board | 23:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, the problem is again way deeper than you think I'm suggesting | 23:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it'll tell you how much battery you have when you flash it, if it's more than 20% i doubt low battery could possibly be an issue | 23:35 |
| FiSHBoY | yeah, it's about 50 at the moment for sure | 23:35 |
| FiSHBoY | er above | 23:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | and if you'd bother to read my post completely, you'd notice I suggested *flashing* with fully charged battery, not simply to recharge battery and see if that helps | 23:35 |
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| FiSHBoY | hehe, yes, I will try that as well in my rapidly diminishing list of options :) | 23:37 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: and when he tried to flash it, it didn't even start on the rootfs (because that's when it tried to touch the kaputt emmc) | 23:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | bbl! | 23:39 |
| FiSHBoY | later, thanks | 23:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | I guess you can bin this one | 23:41 |
| FiSHBoY | sounds like | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | ntw re MIC: I checked N9 now, my assumtion about location of mics stands (N9 actualy has no diffs to hooker in that regard) | 23:43 |
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