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| javispedro | actually i cannot think of any arm instruction that could require 16 bytes alignment? | 00:00 |
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| javispedro | *data | 00:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: neon loads/stores maybe? | 00:00 |
| javispedro | nope | 00:00 |
| javispedro | not saying it is completely unnecesary (e.g. avoid false sharing), but it should work | 00:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: it looks like the 16-aligned nonce is passed directly into ae_encrypt | 00:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which is the OCB mode reference code | 00:02 |
| javispedro | well unless you are bored I'd remove the check instead of battling the toolchain for now | 00:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the nonce is accessed as a 32-bit word | 00:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so it needs to be 4 aligned but not 16 aligned | 00:04 |
| mankeli | i think the problem is in src/crypto/crypto.h:53 | 00:05 |
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| mankeli | char bytes[ 12 ] __attribute__((__aligned__ (16))); | 00:05 |
| javispedro | wait a moment | 00:05 |
| javispedro | _in a class_??? they put that in A C++ class? | 00:06 |
| javispedro | https://github.com/keithw/mosh/blob/master/src/crypto/crypto.h is the file? | 00:06 |
| mankeli | for some reason, that alignment tip is not being respected | 00:06 |
| javispedro | that's friggin insane | 00:06 |
| javispedro | at least the class is a POD | 00:06 |
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| mankeli | javispedro: yeah, row 77 in there it seems | 00:07 |
| javispedro | that statement is exactly a NOOP | 00:07 |
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| javispedro | ok, untrue, it would do something if you were to allocate an array of those. in the stack. | 00:08 |
| mankeli | nonce's data() method returns pointer to that private member bytes, and the result of data() method is later being checked for alignment | 00:08 |
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| javispedro | you should check where Nonce is allocated the | 00:08 |
| javispedro | https://github.com/keithw/mosh/blob/master/src/crypto/crypto.cc#L265 | 00:09 |
| javispedro | found it | 00:09 |
| javispedro | on the stack | 00:09 |
| javispedro | well that is actually weirder, on ARM the stack is 16 byte aligned | 00:09 |
| mankeli | forcing an alignment of certain class _member_ sounds very suspicious to me | 00:09 |
| mankeli | might be some compiler-specific behavior | 00:09 |
| javispedro | s/16/8 | 00:10 |
| javispedro | I don't know if gcc supports attribute(aligned(N)) on the stack | 00:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=mosh&project=home%3Aitsnotabigtruck&repository=Harmattan | 00:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i changed the alignment stuff to 4, not 16 | 00:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: well, it's obviously compiler specific behavior, it's using a compiler specific keyword :p | 00:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the gcc manual says aligning a struct member is ok | 00:12 |
| mankeli | okay | 00:12 |
| javispedro | http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=16660 ? | 00:12 |
| mankeli | weird then | 00:12 |
| javispedro | there, I'm afraid your problem is yet another gcc bug! | 00:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's probably enforcing the 16 alignment just to make things faster on x86 | 00:13 |
| javispedro | aka SSE | 00:13 |
| mankeli | itsnotabigtruck: you didn't fix the allocation, just the error? :-D | 00:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: hm? i changed the alignment from 16 to 4, which is less than or equal to 8 | 00:14 |
| javispedro | itsnotabigtruck: you mean you changed the test? | 00:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it has to be 4 aligned because the AES-OCB code makes word reads from the nonce pointer | 00:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: and the __aligned__ directives too | 00:14 |
| mankeli | rules, i can't wait to test | 00:16 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ok, it finished | 00:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/itsnotabigtruck/Harmattan/armel/mosh_1.1.3-1maemo2_armel.deb | 00:22 |
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| petteri | guys ping me if you get the aligned problem worked out, going to sleep. good luck! | 00:23 |
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| javispedro | it's probably already sorted out by now =) | 00:23 |
| javispedro | you should file a bug that they should only require the alignment if the platform does sse (e.g. via #ifdef) | 00:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hm, good idea | 00:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also the next step would be to add an icon and aegis manifest | 00:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i guess mosh-server should inherit all credentials while mosh-client should drop them instead | 00:26 |
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| mankeli | how those deb names break up btw? mosh_1.1.3-1maemo2_armel.deb = mosh 1.1.3, 1 something, for maemo, revision 2 of the package itself, armel platform ? | 00:29 |
| javispedro | mosh 1.1.3, debian packaging version 1, maemo packaging version 2, armel debian architecture | 00:30 |
| javispedro | mankeli: you can read this here: http://maemo.org/forrest-images/pdf/maemo-policy.pdf | 00:31 |
| mankeli | okay | 00:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, a normal debian version looks like 1.1.3-1 | 00:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | where it's software version 1.1.3, package version 1 | 00:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so if they modify the package before 1.1.4 comes out then it becomes 1.1.3-2 | 00:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and then this package is a maemo variant of the upstream debian package, so that makes 1.1.3-1maemo | 00:33 |
| mankeli | yup, works both ways | 00:33 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | and then it's the 2nd modification to the maemo variant so that makes it 1.1.3-1maemo2 | 00:33 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | there's even more punctuation used in various sorts of debian versions | 00:33 |
| mankeli | and no complaining about the alignment | 00:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anyway, that maemo scheme is the same thing ubuntu does | 00:33 |
| mankeli | congrats :-) | 00:33 |
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| mankeli | now just quickly post those packages to maemo.org and you have the first published mosh for any mobile phone! | 00:35 |
| mankeli | smoke those android/ios lamers ;-) | 00:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | is there a 64x64 icon for mosh | 00:36 |
| mankeli | nope | 00:37 |
| javispedro | the ios/android lamers will probably implement local echo in the graphical terminal emulator app where it belongs =) | 00:37 |
| javispedro | (e.g. gnome-terminal/libvte already seemingly has partially similar logic for input method preediting, which I tried yesterday =) ) | 00:38 |
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| HAMIDx9 | oh , it is very frustrating , no one knows about layout file for rootfs ? | 00:50 |
| HAMIDx9 | so strange for adding a text file 22 MB larger than orig one ! | 00:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | HAMIDx9: do a 'strings' on the original fiasco | 00:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you'll see something with curly brackets | 00:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's the layout file | 00:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | copy it and put it into fiasco-gen | 00:55 |
| javispedro | lol, tomi ahonen is at it again: http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/.a/6a00e0097e337c88330168e9f40425970c-pi | 00:55 |
| HAMIDx9 | itsnotabingtruck : thanks , i try it . | 00:57 |
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| mankeli | bah, mosh doesn't work with fingerterm | 01:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro mankeli: when this is done rebuilding https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=mosh&project=home%3Aitsnotabigtruck | 01:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | could you test the maemo3 version | 01:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i added an aegis manifest that is supposed to cause mosh-client and mosh to never run with credentials | 01:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mosh-server should still inherit credentials | 01:05 |
| javispedro | (I don't have the server part anywhere) | 01:05 |
| mankeli | it's in the package | 01:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, you just install mosh on both the server and the client | 01:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the client SSHes into the server and invokes the MOSH server | 01:07 |
| * mankeli is waiting for crypto expert opinions on mosh | 01:10 | |
| mankeli | well, given the ssh-based launching i guess it's secure enough for irc :-) | 01:10 |
| javispedro | ssh-based _launching_ ? | 01:11 |
| javispedro | meh. | 01:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: yeah, it uses ssh to launch a server that listens on udp | 01:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the udp session is protected with aes-128-ocb | 01:11 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm not sure how the keying is done but i guess the key gets passed to the server through ssh or something | 01:11 |
| mankeli | yeah, "mosh" is just a perl script that connects to the host with ssh, then spawns mosh-server automatically which in turn returns udp port and a key, and then launchs mosh-client | 01:12 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | which is one problem right there...how do you deal with that in your firewall | 01:13 |
| javispedro | and all of that for local echo? | 01:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you can explicitly ask for a port but that seems inconvenient | 01:13 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: and connection mobility | 01:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which is kind of a big deal, esp on a phone | 01:13 |
| mankeli | itsnotabigtruck: it uses udp ports 60000-61000 as default. just open those | 01:13 |
| javispedro | ah, screen | 01:13 |
| javispedro | that's what the server is for then... but UDP?? | 01:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | probably to better handle crappy connections? | 01:14 |
| mankeli | i think the prediction is a little bit more advanced than just local echo | 01:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | tcp is probably the main cause of ssh's lag problems | 01:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's supposed to be reliable after all, not smooth | 01:14 |
| mankeli | it also clearly shows which parts of the screen are predicted and which ones not | 01:15 |
| javispedro | and you don't want reliability? =) | 01:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: on a crappy connection...i want the absolute minimum amount of reliability while having a smooth experience | 01:15 |
| mankeli | and udp makes it work even with roaming | 01:15 |
| javispedro | mankeli: you should try gnome-terminal/libvte with a input method | 01:15 |
| javispedro | mankeli: it does exactly the same... | 01:16 |
| mankeli | i guess even if phone ip address suddenly changes | 01:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm getting *really* tired of constantly dropping ssh connections, then having to reauth over and over | 01:16 |
| mankeli | javispedro: on n9? | 01:16 |
| javispedro | I tried on my N950 actually =) | 01:17 |
| Velmont | mosh, waat? That seems nice! | 01:17 |
| javispedro | mankeli: yesterday I was playing with showing the vkb on easy debian, and I noticed that gnome-terminal was smart enough to do that when preediting | 01:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | dammit, the maemo3 build failed | 01:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i forgot to include aegis-builder as a buildep | 01:18 |
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| javispedro | preediting is when you want to show the string "on the spot" but not yet mark it as "commited" or "done with" (because maybe you are waiting for the user to pick on the list of autocorrection words, etc.) | 01:19 |
| javispedro | so of course gnome-terminal has to show it on place, but not actually send it via the tty (otherwise you'd e.g. destroy your file!) | 01:19 |
| javispedro | Was kinda impressed they do that... (with a underline effect even) | 01:20 |
| mankeli | oh, that's nice | 01:21 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/itsnotabigtruck/Harmattan/armel/mosh_1.1.3-1maemo3_armel.deb | 01:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, it's up | 01:31 |
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| mankeli | at least it installs and still works | 01:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | w00t | 01:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm SSHed into my phone, which is running mosh connected to my server | 01:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | however, mosh doesn't let you specify any ssh options, including the port | 01:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so that's pretty lame | 01:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but it definitely works | 01:41 |
| Tronic | FWIW, I have gotten solid low latency results with tcp w/ NODELAY on both ends and flush() always after sending data. | 01:45 |
| Tronic | Just flushing didn't do the trick (even though various sources claim that it should). | 01:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yay | 01:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | now i'm mosh'd in from meego terminal | 01:47 |
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| mankeli | sleep-> | 01:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i had to loosen up the security of my ssh setup to be able to connect though...so back to the old setup | 01:48 |
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| javispedro | Tronic: actually it does feel weird, I'd leave NDELAY disable :S | 01:49 |
| javispedro | *NODELAY | 01:49 |
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| Tronic | javispedro: Depends on what you plan doing with that connection. | 01:50 |
| javispedro | I ponder if linux implements SO_LOWDELAY.. | 01:50 |
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| kimju | itsnotabigtruck, what loosening of security it required? | 02:10 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | kimju: for one, it only connects to the default port | 02:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | second i have a fancy authentication setup that wouldn't work on the N9 anyway | 02:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | non-default port isn't real security but it keeps the ssh bots out, of which there are many | 02:40 |
| kimju | itsnotabigtruck, the alternative port for a specific host can be specified in ~/.ssh/config | 02:42 |
| kimju | as a work-around | 02:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | kimju: hm, true | 02:43 |
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| Enforcer | argh, surely when i 'ignore update' it shouldnt remind me about the update until there is a newer version, not every couple of days? | 04:09 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83570 | 04:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just posted a thread on tmo about the mosh port | 04:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Enforcer [anyone else] ^ | 04:25 |
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| petteri | i see new version of mosh. Nice work! | 08:53 |
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| jonni | only issue in mosh that I can see is that crtl-^ . doesnt seem to work as quit sequence | 09:49 |
| petteri | i have not managed to press that combination with finnish keyboard :P | 09:49 |
| jonni | well even on virtual keyboard where you can press crtl-^ . it doesnt work | 09:50 |
| jonni | so maybe n9 mosh should have some other quit sequence | 09:51 |
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| Mirv | someone who has hacked with the harmattan Facebook app knows what to do when the app is just empty and on the command line complains about missing database? | 10:35 |
| Mirv | after erased eMMC contents, practically everything else (including Twitter) works just fine | 10:35 |
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| jonni | depends how you erased emmc | 11:02 |
| jonni | usually reboot helps on most issues are databases are created at boot | 11:02 |
| jonni | heh, reinstalled phone with my new script, was pretty pleasing to see script reinstalling 75 ovi apps without me even touching the ui :). I've always find it quite irritating that I needed to reinstall apps one by one from the ovi store ui. | 11:08 |
| PaulePanter | jonni: Is that script public somewhere? | 11:12 |
| jonni | not yet atleast | 11:12 |
| PaulePanter | Understood. | 11:12 |
| jonni | I have to think about cleaning it a bit atleast before any release is possible | 11:13 |
| Mirv | jonni: some mixture of moslo failures, reflashing harmattan image (but no emmc image since I don't have it) then mkfs.vfat over USB (since it couldn't be mounted), then reboot :) | 11:17 |
| Mirv | oh yeah and a restore from backup after unpacking .backup | 11:17 |
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| Mirv | everything except facebook seems to work pretty nicely. ah and yes I also lost my angry birds scores which is tragic. | 11:18 |
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| jonni | Mirv: yep I usually manually backup angrybirds scores before reflash. Most likely you rproblems are because of mkfs.vfat (you should really be doing that, because flasher does have --erase-mmc=secure flag for doing that) and if your done .backup in opemmode (while beeing in moslo), then most likely aegis databases are encrypted with different keys and restoring them makes facebook just not able to open the database. | 11:30 |
| Mirv | jonni: thanks for the explanation. the .backup was actually done before moslo. I did run --erase-mmc=secure once before as well | 11:32 |
| Mirv | well, I'll hack around at some point and see if I can get FB back | 11:33 |
| Mirv | FB chat works, though, which is nice | 11:33 |
| jonni | if you happen to have opensh with all the capas, you can ofcourse just delete facebook db and reboot so it will be regenerated. with apscli -D -s facebook-protected:Se | 11:33 |
| Mirv | thanks, I'll make a note for later use :) | 11:34 |
| Mirv | it's nice to notice that harmattan is possible to be broken in numerous ways and yet N9 doesn't become a brick | 11:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: about camera i asked. i'll show yo | 13:06 |
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| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: http://filmmakeriq.com/2011/10/dslrrc-canon-dslr-android-remote-control-app/ | 13:19 |
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| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/08/android-app-controls-canon-slrs-directly-via-usb/ | 13:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: is it possible to make same with harmattan and if it is is it only possible in open mode? | 13:52 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: for wireless its easy you can just make bluetooth app to control the camera, for usb connection harder since you need usb otg. | 13:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: my camera doesn't have wireless | 13:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: and we can't achive otg(like hen on n900) with official pr1.2, right? | 14:00 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: dont remember, compiling otg module was possible if I remember right. But nobody has released such a thing. | 14:02 |
| jonni | dslrrc is selling the bt hw for the canon, so basicly they are just using bt to connect to usb otg device that controls the camera | 14:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: the best thing s to have 2 options =) | 14:04 |
| jonni | but on worst case you need openmode kernel, anyways nobody has tested otg for the last 5 months I think. | 14:05 |
| jonni | I did compile otg on latest kernel, but didnt have any time to test it (and most likely wont have time to test it for months). | 14:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: but as i understand it works only for open | 14:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't think open is that ready so i can switch. i'll wait till last pr is out (i assume the next one) and than i assume community would go for openmode so it would be ready for users like | 14:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | i can test if it's not only openmode | 14:11 |
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| jonni | ZogG_laptop: host side usb can be compiled as module, so it works in secure mode if you have exploited opensh. | 14:20 |
| ZogG_laptop | inception? | 14:21 |
| jonni | yep | 14:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | didn't try it yet and wonder if it would work with pr1.3 | 14:21 |
| jonni | ofcourse not good if you plan to make ovi store app | 14:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | f$#%ck ovistore =) | 14:22 |
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| jonni | atleast current version of inception is blocked in pr1.3 (if that is ever released or even exists). | 14:22 |
| jonni | but no system is safe, so someone will always find another hole. | 14:23 |
| flux | jonni, I don't see why people who want to use inception would upgrade to pr1.3.. unless some compelling feature comes with it. | 14:24 |
| jonni | flux: tons of bugfixes, and inception can be blocked in pr1.2 with just package update. | 14:24 |
| jonni | so nothing guarantees that inception will work in pr1.2 in the future | 14:25 |
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| ZogG_laptop | flux: the thing i dont understand is if nokia not supporting harmattan why wouldn't they let us more freedom | 14:26 |
| flux | well, why would they? | 14:27 |
| mankeli | bah, someone should create a one comprehensive infobase for n9 so that one doesn't have to skim thru forums always | 14:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | you rememeber the bug when we lost all accounts info and there is that bug (i think still in pr1.2) that your internet connection is stuck? | 14:29 |
| mankeli | or irclogs :-) | 14:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | so for lumia they said they gonna release update in a week and that they pay 100$ credit for AT&T contract owners. that's why | 14:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | mankeli: there are logs | 14:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | and you are welcome to do databse | 14:30 |
| mankeli | jonni: so there is a usb host mode kernel module that a) is safe in "doesnt break any hardware" b) works without open mode ? | 14:30 |
| jonni | depends on definition of supporting, by law nokia is supporting harmattan for xx years. | 14:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | mankeli: there are wiki on maemo.org and meego.com | 14:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: yeah on paper is one thing, in reality it's differ | 14:31 |
| jonni | mankeli: on my hard drive, but I cannot release it, as I'm not allowed to. | 14:31 |
| mankeli | maemo.org seems to be pretty n900-specific. or atleast i have gotten the impression that there are like two sections for n9 and all others are "please dont waste our precious time with your n9 shit" | 14:31 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: its AT&T which is paying 100$ and not nokia, but devil is in the details :) | 14:33 |
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| mankeli | jonni: oh damn. :( | 14:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: f$%ck the money, the update would come in a week, while we have bugs and we need to wait for new release | 14:36 |
| jonni | mankeli: but kernel sources are out there, so it doesnt take much to compile the module. There just inst that many usecases for it, only reason why I compiled it for me, was the fact that I wanted to connect my small usb drive to n9. | 14:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | and i mean not minor bugs and critical one (with accounts) - we waited for pr1.2 and there are countries who still didn't get it btw | 14:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: did it work? | 14:37 |
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| mankeli | jonni: but if the kernel sources are in those sdk dvd's released to public by nokia, why you can't release the compiled module? is it because of some nda stuff or what? | 14:40 |
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| ArkanoiD_ | Does anyone have luit built for harmattan? | 15:35 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: luit? | 15:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw @everyone if you haven't seen it already -> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83570 | 15:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli ZogG_laptop ^ | 15:38 |
| ArkanoiD_ | itsnotabigtruck, yep. it was in a package named like x11tools or x11utils on fremantle | 15:41 |
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| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: i even thanked you | 15:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: we were talking about otg here btw | 15:51 |
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| pa | but by the way, is N9 supposed to die with 2.6.32 or some kernel update are also coming? | 16:07 |
| pa | (got my 64 yday, but im too busy to unwrap it :( ) | 16:08 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | pa: die with 2.6.32 | 16:09 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | it's probably possible to port the mods to a newer kernel and use open mode | 16:10 |
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| mankeli | ArkanoiD_: it should be in x11-utils package | 16:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | flux: > jonni, I don't see why people who want to use inception would upgrade to pr1.3.. unless some compelling feature comes with it. | 16:24 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | because they'll upgrade inception too and all will be fine :) | 16:24 |
| flux | itsnotabigtruck, well, at least who would do it before ensuring a compatible version exists :) | 16:25 |
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| mankeli | ArkanoiD_: oops, it doesnt. sorry | 16:26 |
| mankeli | it should be included in x11-utils, and apt-cache search luit even shows that package but it's not there | 16:27 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: what do you mean it's not there? | 16:30 |
| ArkanoiD_ | itsnotabigtruck, just simple: pr1.3 could fix hopelessly broken address book and contacts merge operation | 16:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if apt-cache says x11-utils is there, it ought to be there | 16:30 |
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| ArkanoiD_ | and other things like "damage tracker database and eat 100% cpu forever" | 16:31 |
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| mankeli | itsnotabigtruck: well dpkg -L x11-utils doesn't show any file by that name | 16:45 |
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| mankeli | apt-cache showpkg x11-utils just shows luit (0 (null)) in dependencies | 16:45 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ah | 16:46 |
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| x29a | do i need to install a self-developed app via the ovi store in order for its icon to appear in the menu? i have a project_harmattan.desktop file in my projects main dir and i package it via the sdk, it executes ok, but no desktop shortcut is created. | 16:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | x29a: no, you don't need to...something must be wrong with your package | 16:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | do dpkg -c on it and see if there's a desktop file in /usr/share/applications | 16:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | x29a: you the guy with vaio laptop right? | 16:53 |
| x29a | not that i know of | 16:54 |
| x29a | itsnotabigtruck: thanks for the hint, ill check on it | 16:54 |
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| x29a | itsnotabigtruck: nope, not there, so i guess i have to reference it with a INSTALLS += in my .pro? | 16:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh than it's other guy with simuliar nick from here | 16:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: did you nailed accounts? | 16:57 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: did i what? | 16:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | x29a: i'm not sure, i think qtcreator has some magic related to desktop files | 16:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | read up on that | 16:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i don't really like qtcreator | 16:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'd rather assume direct control | 16:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGf9qtIeyBg | 16:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | x29a: what ya trying to do with .pro? | 17:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: the account system of harmattan - did you figured out what is what? | 17:02 |
| x29a | ZogG_laptop: moving the desktop file where its recognized by the system. but i agree with itsnotabigtruck, qtcreator probably offers its own way | 17:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, i think qtcreator is supposed to generate the desktop file for oyu | 17:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or something along those lines | 17:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not really sure | 17:04 |
| pa | you know what would be nice? a little tool to package applications.. Like you tell the file, where you want to put and which capabilities you want for it. And it creates the deb. :) | 17:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: sort of... | 17:04 |
| ArkanoiD_ | ah | 17:04 |
| ArkanoiD_ | http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/public/Harmattan/luit | 17:04 |
| ArkanoiD_ | here it is :-) | 17:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | x29a: it works out of box | 17:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: i still stuck of understanding where to stick the part for my authorization | 17:05 |
| x29a | obviously it doesnt | 17:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | x29a: harmattan target? | 17:06 |
| x29a | yep | 17:06 |
| pa | ArkanoiD_, whats luit? | 17:06 |
| x29a | (at least for me, i know im doing something wrong, but thats what im about to find out) | 17:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | x29a: check the amlapplicationviewer | 17:08 |
| x29a | im not using qml | 17:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh | 17:08 |
| pa | by the way whats Musicrecognizer? | 17:08 |
| pa | something like shazam? | 17:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | than i assume you need to add it manually | 17:08 |
| jonni | atleast I've just added desktop to INSTALLS += on the .pro file on my projects | 17:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa: where did you find it? | 17:08 |
| pa | in the repo pasted by arkanoid | 17:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | INSTALLS += icon desktopfile | 17:09 |
| x29a | will it use the icon i defined via the projects settings or do i have to define icon and desktopfile? | 17:09 |
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| pa | as well as "led-event-notifier".. does it finally blink on missed calls with it? | 17:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa: oh you checking MohammadAG's repo? | 17:14 |
| pa | yep | 17:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | musicrecognition is not finished and i assume not working | 17:14 |
| pa | ah i see | 17:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | led-notifier may work with inception or open-mode | 17:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | as aegis shit | 17:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: but last i checked it didn't work, incepted or not | 17:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it had a bug | 17:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | led-notifier? | 17:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ^ | 17:15 |
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| Jare | any ideas why I'm getting "No such method 'getState' in interface 'com.nokia.devicelock' at object path '/request'" even though getState and setState methods should exist on that interface: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/platform-api-reference/xml/daily-docs/devicelock/devicelock_8h.html? | 18:11 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | jare: be advised you'll need to assert aegis credentiald for that | 18:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and those credentials require inception | 18:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | actually, you're just querying it, so maybe not | 18:14 |
| mankeli | conversations would be more fun to watch, if you would start using term "you have to go deeper" in place of "you need to use inception" | 18:16 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | mankeli: hehe | 18:18 |
| Jare | yes, I've already requested the needed credentials with the help of inception. Otherwise I would get an AccessDenied error | 18:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | jare: are you using qdbus and that structure to do the operation | 18:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or is this in non-qt code | 18:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-Internal-Memory--International-Version/dp/B005Z32UI2/ hmm, amazon is stocking the 64GB N9 again for $500 | 18:23 |
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| Jare | I'm experimenting with dbus-send. I found some nokia code, which requests a dataWipe using dbus-send. So I assume the other methods in the devicelock interface should work too | 18:26 |
| Jare | I'm not going to test, if the dataWipe methods works though ;) | 18:27 |
| Jare | -s | 18:27 |
| alterego | I'd imagine it needs the lock code anyway | 18:28 |
| alterego | And you probably need extended privs from aegis | 18:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | alterego: he said he's already doing that, and if it were aegis it would fail with a different message | 18:35 |
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| Jare | ah, now it works, found the correct syntax at last :) | 19:03 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | jare: yay | 19:10 |
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| jkt | if I have a PageStackWindow and a few Page items in there, can I use anchors.fill: parent for items which are put into the Page elements? | 19:25 |
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| jkt | I'm asking because doing so makes the top status bar hide a part of my widget | 19:26 |
| jkt | and there's also something at the bottom | 19:26 |
| jkt | the QML files I use are at http://gitorious.org/trojita/trojita/trees/qml/src/Harmattan/trojita/qml/trojita/ | 19:27 |
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| jkt | and http://dev.gentoo.org/~jkt/tmp/n950-1.png is how that application looks on the phone | 19:31 |
| jkt | (ignore the top menu, that's from the VNC viewer) | 19:32 |
| jkt | but the issue is that the ListView showing a list of mailboxes is partially obstructed by the top status bar, and that there's some trash at the bottom | 19:32 |
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| piggz | does anyone know a more permanent fix for testing/deploying apps to the N9 that are >4mb, thus filling up /tmp? what is the size of /tmp on the N950? | 19:38 |
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| jkt | piggz: also 4MB | 19:41 |
| piggz | jkt: sucks...or, QtSDK sucks for putting files in the wrong place! | 19:42 |
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| jkt | hmm, weird -- updating the QmlApplicationViewer to the latest template from QtSDK resolved my visibility issue | 20:16 |
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| mankeli | piggz: i use sshfs | 20:25 |
| piggz | mankeli: how does that work? | 20:26 |
| mankeli | one says sshfs hostname:/directory /mnt and then you just launch your program from there | 20:26 |
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| djszapi | Hey! Any hardware guys here ? | 20:34 |
| piggz | did pr1.3 beta come out recently? | 20:34 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | piggz: is there a link? | 20:39 |
| piggz | itsnotabigtruck: i saw a tweet about it earlier...havnt managed to find anything else... | 20:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i kinda expected that if anything came out it'd be all over tmo | 20:40 |
| piggz | yeah, i thought so too, and looked :) ... | 20:40 |
| piggz | itsnotabigtruck: https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/n950%20pr1.3 | 20:42 |
| piggz | itsnotabigtruck: i think it started here ... https://twitter.com/#!/rlinfati/status/190037965244862465 | 20:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rm-680 ssu is still on pr1.1 | 20:46 |
| bef0rd | si | 20:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | frals: piiiing =) | 20:52 |
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| rzr | itsnotabigtruck, will pt1.3 support inception ? | 21:01 |
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| rzr | lol @ http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83589&page=2 | 21:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | get used* | 21:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: yeah | 21:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not inception 0.1 though | 21:13 |
| djszapi | too bad no hardware guys here :( | 21:16 |
| frals | ZogG_laptop: pong | 21:22 |
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| juhaj | Too bad, kontact touch really does not install on 1.2 =( | 21:58 |
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