IRC log of #harmattan for Friday, 2012-04-13

juhajitsnotabigtruck: You probably noticed I am a newbie, but will inception allow me to create a file in /etc/init.d? One of the packages from needs that (or repackaging)00:01
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javispedroa big scary warning for the #n950club00:24
javispedroyou should NOT buy things from the ovi store using the n95000:25
javispedrosupport will outright refuse to serve you, so if there's _ANY_ single problem with say your CC (double charges come to mind)00:25
javispedrothey will refer you to FN/Launchpad, and forwarding to FN/Launchpad is as useful as forwarding to /dev/null00:25
DocScrutinizer"sorry Sir, yes we got that 990$ from your bank account, but since you used a N950, we don't feel like rolling back that transaction"00:28
DocScrutinizersounds oddly sane00:28
javispedroI got told this because of my inquiries about the download limit00:29
javispedrowhich btw is 1000:29
javispedronokiasupport can send you a sms (For free) where the original phone with the same IMEI that the one that made the payment can redownload the apps00:29
DocScrutinizerwith that inquiries you're already on their blacklist anyway00:30
javispedrobut the support lady clearly told me that they will NOT send that to N950s, and that "I should contact FN where that to happen to me"00:30
sahib_javispedro: get back to me with the e-mail that you made the purchase from and I'll resend the download link for you tomorrow, should you so wish.00:31
bef0rdwhat if you say you have an n900:31
DocScrutinizerwtf, probably they got no clue if it's an N9 or N950 at all00:31
javispedrosahib_: actually I got the SMS link and it didn't work either ("content is no longer available"00:32
javispedro(I hit it within the two hours timeframe)00:32
sahib_javispedro: alright... which application does it concern?00:32
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sahib_Ovi store is a complete clusterfuck :-c00:32
DocScrutinizerbottom line: OVI store FUBAR00:32
itsnotabigtruckjuhaj: you don't want to put anything in /ETC/INIT.D00:33
itsnotabigtruckn9 uses /ETC/INIT00:33
DocScrutinizerand you really expect me to develop anything for such an infra?00:33
itsnotabigtruck(which is for upstart, as opposed to sysvinit)00:33
itsnotabigtruckalso javispedro: that's pretty insane00:33
itsnotabigtruckDocScrutinizer: well, no one said you had to upload anything to ovi store...i haven't00:34
itsnotabigtruckwhat's a real shame is all the vast majority of people know is the ovi store00:34
itsnotabigtruckAFM could have been a real alternative but AFM itself is crippled by bugs, no one except pros knows about it, and even most pros refuse to upload things into it00:35
itsnotabigtruckso yeah00:35
itsnotabigtruckjavispedro: did they know you had a 950 or did you tell them00:35
itsnotabigtrucki.e. would pretending to be using an N9 have helped at all00:35
javispedroitsnotabigtruck: they can check that (it appears on my ovi account page for example)00:35
javispedroactually "Nokia Dali" appears00:36
itsnotabigtruckDocScrutinizer: of course you could always chargeback the $990 charge00:36
itsnotabigtruckjavispedro: they've got some seriously idiotic flowchart-driven support going on00:36
itsnotabigtruckif you were using an N9 in the US you'd, from what i hear, get a very similar response00:36
javispedroI have to say that the support lady was very friendly and he knew what the N950 and the N9 were and the relationship between them00:37
javispedro*she :P00:37
itsnotabigtruckdoesn't help if she refuses to take action00:37
itsnotabigtruckif it's something that they can do, and it's something that a reasonable person would expect them to do, they should do it00:37
juhajitsnotabigtruck: No, I do not care if there is anything in /etc/init.d or not: I want kontact touch and it needs virtuoso-opensource-6.1 which wants to drop a file in /etc/init.d and refuses to install otherwise00:38
itsnotabigtruckjuhaj: yeah, that package is borked i think...00:38
itsnotabigtrucksomeone here probably knows more about the state of the art with kontakt touch00:38
juhajitsnotabigtruck: True. But that information does not help me install it =)00:38
itsnotabigtruckjuhaj: well, you should wait and get some details before destroying your phone with it00:38
itsnotabigtrucki think those packages have MALFed phones before00:39
juhajitsnotabigtruck: I thought that was a bug in 1.1 (combined with those packages)00:39
itsnotabigtruckjuhaj: possibly...though if the package causes a MALF screen that's pretty much by definition a misbehaving package00:40
itsnotabigtrucki sort of remember talk about that before but never got any actual hard info00:40
juhajitsnotabigtruck: I spoke to aheinecke the other day and he seemed to be convinced 1.2 fixes that issue.00:42
juhajitsnotabigtruck: And I already went through your guide once after hitting that particular problem with libXcursor...00:42
itsnotabigtruckjuhaj: in any case, if the package is installing stuff to /etc/init.d, it's not harmattanized, and that means it shouldn't be installed00:42
itsnotabigtruckand i'm having deja vu here...00:42
itsnotabigtrucki think at least one other person had the exact same problem before and that means that nothing's been done to fix it00:43
juhajitsnotabigtruck: Sure, nothing's been done to those packages for months00:43
piggzok, so i installed qtcreator in ~, renamed QtCreator in ~/QtSDK, and added a symlink to the new 2.5beta, and it seems to work .. hopfully no more full /tmp problems for me!00:43
javispedrooh, true, new qt sdk release00:43
itsnotabigtruckbtw in case anyone hasn't seen it =>
itsnotabigtruck(mosh - mobile shell - port for N9)00:44
piggzitsnotabigtruck: i had, and it looks cool00:44
piggzbtw, in case anyone hasnt seen it,
piggz(my awesome new game ;)00:45
juhajitsnotabigtruck: So it is your best advice not to try to install those packages?00:45
piggzjavispedro: its a standalone release of qtcreator beta, not a full sdk00:46
itsnotabigtruckbtw was there anything to substantiate that 'pr1.3 beta' stuff floating around earlier today00:46
piggznot that ive seen00:47
juhajitsnotabigtruck: (I already installed libgpg-error1 libgcrypt12...)00:47
itsnotabigtruckalso re the game...ehhh, i'm already reluctant to pay for apps and i'm very reluctant to pay for apps on ovi store00:47
itsnotabigtruckgiven their reputation for world-class customer service...x_x00:48
itsnotabigtruckpiggz ^00:51
piggzitsnotabigtruck: yeah, i can see your point, im like that does give me some extra pennies :)00:52
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piggzsuccess, new qtcreator deploys successfuly01:04
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piggzitsnotabigtruck: remember though, i will give world-class service, with free updates and features requests implemented ;)01:25
piggzdissapointed i got a -ve review solely for adding an ad-banner to one of my apps, if ppl want stuff for free, is it really so bad to have an ad-banner? there is even one built in to N9 on the weather app01:26
itsnotabigtruckpiggz: -ve review?01:33
itsnotabigtruckand imo ads are a lot worse than having to pay for an app, because that means the app is working against the user01:34
itsnotabigtruckyou can't really trust it anymore01:34
itsnotabigtruckad libraries have all sorts of nasty stuff embedded in them01:34
piggzitsnotabigtruck: -ve = negative01:34
piggzitsnotabigtruck: yeah, they do track your location from what i have seen01:35
itsnotabigtruckpiggz: which app was that?01:36
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piggzitsnotabigtruck: pgz urban dictionary ..... its good simple fun ;)01:37
itsnotabigtruckthat's...definitely not the kind of thing that should have ads embedded01:38
piggzit doesnt base ads on the content displayed01:38
itsnotabigtruckit might be begrudgingly acceptable were it a really substantial app01:38
itsnotabigtruckbut this is just another web client thing01:38
piggzyeah, maybe...i was mainly trying it to see if i could..01:39
itsnotabigtruckalso, it looks like it didn't originally contain ads? so that means that it's an anti-feature added in after the fact01:39
itsnotabigtrucki.e. something in an app that isn't in the interest of the user01:39
Velmontitsnotabigtruck: I found out why I couldn't find the telenor video, -- it is actually deleted, and doesn't run anymore on my phone. I just hadn't noticed after upgrading to PR1.2.01:40
itsnotabigtruckanyway...the ad situation doesn't seem to be that bad on N901:40
itsnotabigtruckbut it's really really bad on android and iphone01:40
itsnotabigtruckpeople are right to be wary of ads01:40
VelmontYes. I hated that.01:40
piggzyeah, if i added ads to the free version of space-invaders, it would be difficult for it not to be very annoying01:40
itsnotabigtruckand e.g. meecatalog added an ad banner, and the ad i kept getting was advertising some dodgy outfit trying to scam people wanting a green card01:41
itsnotabigtrucki promptly got rid of it because not only was it closed source, now it had ads and in a simple utility program that isn't acceptable01:41
piggzheh, the add ive got on u-d is for a nice looking girl called Amber01:42
piggzshould i view her friend reguest? :D01:42
piggznow i have a flirt-request01:43
itsnotabigtruckthat's the other thing, w/r/t open source, for a phone centered around open source software, i'm disappointed at how everything is gravitating toward the ovi store and closed source apps01:43
itsnotabigtrucki suppose it was inevitable, it's the same situation as every other platform really01:43
VelmontYep. -- But it's the easy, obvious choice. -- There's no FOSS store preinstalled.01:43
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VelmontAnd Nokia doesn't make it easyto filter on FOSS stuff.01:44
itsnotabigtrucki'm not one of those open-source-or-nothing fanatics01:44
VelmontI'd like it to be easier, I alwaysprefer FOSS.01:44
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: who cares about filtering01:44
itsnotabigtruckit would be enough for a developer to simultaneously release on ovi and release the source01:44
itsnotabigtruckor whatever it takes01:44
VelmontAlthough I'm also not FOSS or nothing.01:44
itsnotabigtruckreleasing on ovi store isn't mutually exclusive with everything else01:44
itsnotabigtruckyet in practice almost nothing on ovi store is available anywhere else01:44
itsnotabigtruckthere's no good reason for that, really01:45
DocScrutinizerI can't believe it I stay at home to chat with javispedro to test usb hostmode, rather than heading out for dinner01:45
VelmontFiltering is required to actually find the things easily.01:45
piggzthe other way of looking at it, does making a crappy urban-dictionary client app, really add value to the foss community?01:45
itsnotabigtruckpiggz: well, not necessarily, but it doesn't hurt01:45
itsnotabigtruckthere's the trust factor01:45
VelmontI'd rather use an app I know I can fix, than using something I can't.01:45
itsnotabigtruckif something's open source you have an easy way to know it doesn't have antifeatures01:46
itsnotabigtruckif the dev disappears off the face of the earth and eventually the app breaks, someone can fork and fix it01:46
itsnotabigtruckalso since only open source stuff is permissible on AfM, having something available as OSS makes it eligible for AfM01:46
itsnotabigtruckwhich would help grow AfM into more of a legit competitor to ovi, because right now it's not01:46
VelmontOfc. I'm not against closed source stuff, I do work for Opera, - but I prefer FOSS stuff because of many things.01:47
itsnotabigtruckthere's a single digit number of release-quality apps on AfM right now, and it's mostly because no one who submits things to ovi is also submitting to AfM01:47
itsnotabigtruckeven if the app is indeed open source01:47
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piggz_useless wifi :/01:47
itsnotabigtruck*heh    piggz_: did any of that stuff above go through?01:49
piggz_itsnotabigtruck: up to  .... velmont> i;d rather user...01:49
itsnotabigtruckitsnotabigtruck | if something's open source you have an easy way to know it doesn't have antifeatures01:49
itsnotabigtruckitsnotabigtruck | if the dev disappears off the face of the earth and eventually the app breaks, someone can fork and fix it01:49
itsnotabigtruckitsnotabigtruck | also since only open source stuff is permissible on AfM, having something available as OSS makes it eligible for AfM which would help grow AfM into more of a legit competitor to ovi, because right now it's not01:49
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itsnotabigtruckso it's not really about contributing value to the oss community, as much as making something people can count on, i suppose01:51
piggz_tbh, there are no license decisions on any of my stuff in ovi-store..the free ones can certainly be gpl, its just the work of maintiaining it somewhere...atm, i have my own git server on a nas upstairs :)01:52
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piggz_im not particulalrly interested in the ad-revenue, i think i made $0.18 so far ;) ... it was just an experiment01:53
itsnotabigtruckgithub or bitbucket? also if you make something into a debian source package and upload it into OBS it's downloadable from there01:53
Velmontitsnotabigtruck: or gitorious :]01:53
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: yeah but everyone hates gitorious :p01:54
piggz_well, does anyone want a gpl urban-dictionary client and google-latitude client?01:54
itsnotabigtruckpiggz_: lol01:54
itsnotabigtrucki mean, you're right that those aren't that important in the scheme of things, i'm mostly arguing on principle here01:54
Velmontitsnotabigtruck: Didn't know that, -- I use it, but only as a remote repo.01:54
piggz_see :)01:55
itsnotabigtruckbut it can't hurt either :p01:55
Velmontpiggz_: latitude yay01:55
itsnotabigtruckyeah, if the latitude client is solid, sounds great01:55
VelmontI was a bit sad that my nice latitude statistics doesn't update any more after moving away from Android.01:55
itsnotabigtruckthere's already one on appsformeego but i don't think it's that polished01:55
piggz_itsnotabigtruck: in the big scheme of things, if i get round to a kexi database app for harmattan, it will be open source01:55
piggz_Velmont: but, would you care if it was gpl or free on ovi store?01:56
piggz_and, would it be ok to have an about page that said 'this is gpl, email me for the source or download it from...' ?01:56
Velmontpiggz_: If there is something FOSS I always try it first, and often stick to it.01:57
itsnotabigtruckpiggz_: well, i'm pushing the apps for meego angle because it's the only real alternative to ovi store01:57
itsnotabigtruckand having everyone dependent on ovi store isn't turning out to be a good thing01:57
VelmontAlthough I've only ever looked at the source for 2 mobile apps. -- But in Ubuntu I do   apt-get source  a bit more often.01:57
piggz_itsnotabigtruck: the latitude client is _relatively_ solid ... it went from _very_ to _relative_ in the last update becuase i had to switch to oath2 ... and now sometimes it looses the access token and asks to log in again01:58
itsnotabigtruckpiggz_: are you using an account plugin?01:58
itsnotabigtrucki was helping zogg out with his account plugin, it turns out that for oauth2 it's easier than i thought01:58
piggz_itsnotabigtruck: no, its just an app01:58
itsnotabigtruckpr1.2+ (or is it pr1.1+?) contains an oauth implementation01:58
itsnotabigtruckthat's probably off-limits from ovi store until they bump the baseline to pr1.2 though01:58
piggz_where are the docs for that?01:58
itsnotabigtruck(they already bumped it to pr1.1)01:59
itsnotabigtruckwell, that's the thing, there's basically none01:59
itsnotabigtrucki just figured out some stuff going by the source this afternoon01:59
piggz_useful.....oauth2 isnt hard .... just need to figure out why its loosing the token01:59
itsnotabigtruckbut integration into signon/accounts is a big plus for native-ness02:00
piggz_but im concentrating on pang, cos it makes me $$$ ;)02:00
itsnotabigtruckalso signon provides aegis protection, though we all know how "secure" aegis protection is02:00
piggz_yes, i can see the appeal of integrating it02:00
piggz_could do a new version as a plugin, and get rid of the map view02:01
itsnotabigtruckbtw just my opinion: ditch the PGZ prefix on everything :p it seems like there's several people who like to prefix their apps like that02:01
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itsnotabigtruckseems like it's better just to give something a cool sounding name02:01
piggz_yeah, i was already considering that02:02
itsnotabigtruckpiggz_: hmmmm...might it be possible to leverage the existing google account on the phone to log into latitude02:03
piggz_itsnotabigtruck: well, you have to go to the google page to authorize the app to update your location, does the exisiting account store your credentials (it probably does for email) .. with the oauth2 api, the app never needs to know the user credentials02:05
itsnotabigtruckpiggz_: i think it does, and it doesn't know about oauth i don't think02:06
itsnotabigtruckwhich is probably a bit of a problem02:06
piggz_anyway, its been a good chat, but i need to get to sleep or i wont get up!02:07
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Enforcerhmm, maybe i need a cron to alert me when pulseaudio is using more than 3% cpu02:49
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itsnotabigtruckanyone know when aegis-exec allows changing the user with the -u argument?03:17
itsnotabigtrucklooks like it just requires setuid and setgid permissions for whatever's being changed03:29
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djszapiHey. Anybody awake from Finland ?04:01
Jarephysically or mentally?04:02
JareI'm not sure about the physically bit since it's 4am, but how so?04:07
itsnotabigtruck /me sighs04:08
itsnotabigtruckdo some of these people have their brain shut off all the time, or just when they're on the internet04:09
arekinathitsnotabigtruck: that's a classic04:09
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itsnotabigtruckanyone on?06:52
itsnotabigtruckheh, of course. :p djszapi: did you work out what your HW issue was?07:02
itsnotabigtruckwhat was it?07:02
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: yes07:05
djszapithe interface cable bought in the shop was broken.07:06
djszapiI need to get a power supply for my pandaboard, and then begin hacking :)07:06
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itsnotabigtruckyeesh, the pandaboard price is nearing $200 and that's apparently subsidized by TI07:08
itsnotabigtrucki mean, that's cheap for a devboard but expensive for what's actually on it07:08
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djszapiwas for free here. :p07:28
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jktwhat am I doing wrong if my InfoBanner is shown partially obstructed by the top status bar?10:44
jktthe InfoBanner is a child of PageStackWindow, not of an individual page10:44
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jktI want to be able to show them from any of my individual Pages10:44
jktconnectionErrorBanner.parent = pageStack.currentPage does the trick10:46
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jonnihmm, I cleaned up my ovi store backup downloader script... lets see, I might post it to forums if someone would find it usefull11:43
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ZogG_laptopfrals: didn't see your pong =) supp13:27
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ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: have you seen what i said on jabber ? =)13:28
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ZogG_laptopok, i have file i'm deploying to n9 in project and it's script, but it wouldn't work till i make chmod +x from phone. anyway to fix it?13:37
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MasterZapTrying to create an Exchange account, I get13:49
MasterZapApr 13 12:33:04 (2012) aegisfs: aegis_storage.cpp(2768): ERROR Cannot open '/home/user/.aegis/ps/.e/YzIuIvda+wohTmbCei-TA0Ns520.dats' (No such file or directory)13:49
MasterZapAny ideas what that means in plain english? ;)13:49
fluxyou probably don't have directory /home/user/.aegis/ps/.e13:49
fluxno idea why, or how to remedy it13:49
MasterZapyes I do, and there are other jibbereshly named files in there13:49
fluxoh, well in that case it just expects the file to be there, but it's not :)13:50
MasterZapit affects all "account" editing I noticed13:50
MasterZaptrying to add a dropbox account gives the same result13:50
fluxso nothing works?13:50
MasterZapso it's not just exchange, something in accounts handling is hosed13:50
MasterZapthe stuff that is already there works13:50
fluxyou -could- try creating an empty file by that name. no guaratees etc.13:50
MasterZapi just can't add the exchange account (or, as it now turns out, any account of any kind)13:51
flux(maybe it doesn't even allow you to do that)13:51
MasterZapHa, tried that. It complains that it cannot compress a 1 byte file.13:51
alteregoAnyone else get an annoying problem where when deleting an email the email app crashes and closes?13:51
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dm8tbrIIRC one workaround to that was to clean the aegis storage out and recreate all accounts etc13:52
* alterego shudders13:52
dm8tbralterego: that was not for you :)13:53
alteregoOh, well, still shudder worthy :P13:53
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ZogG_laptopso what about chmod +x for script14:03
ZogG_laptophow do i deploy script that is executable?14:03
MasterZaphow would I go about to clear out the Aegis storage? So I don't kill too much stuff? ;)14:03
ZogG_laptopMasterZap: than not rm -rf =)14:04
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MasterZapThere are several files in that directory, I'm too chicken to clobber 'em all :)14:06
ZogG_laptopmaybe you should search that on TMO? i bet people had this issue14:06
MasterZapnot that uncle google could find, no, but perhaps I misgoogled14:07
MasterZaponly related mention I could googlify was this link
MasterZapand its just a commit of some modification to the aegis crypto system that seems sort of related but still not really14:08
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MasterZapman, do I have to reflash, that's so annoying.....14:14
MasterZap(sorry, just thinking out loud)14:14
fralsZogG_laptop: pong again then :p14:16
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ZogG_laptopfrals: sup?14:20
ZogG_laptopmay i PM?14:20
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fralsZogG_laptop: sure14:36
fralsim at work so i cant check public irc every minute :p14:36
dm8tbrpeople just don't get that IRC is an asynchronous media :)14:38
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Elleourgh, the ovi store just rejected my statusnet client because I mention that I'm making it available via apps for meego on my website :|14:44
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Elleo"FAILED: Linking to an External Store or Website promoting competing products. "14:45
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itsnotabigtruckElleo: :/14:46
itsnotabigtruckdm8tbr: tbh it's not supposed to be one14:46
itsnotabigtruckat some point it turned into one14:46
itsnotabigtruckbut the entire point is interactive real-time chat14:46
itsnotabigtrucknot drop a message, wait hours-days, hope someone read it14:46
fralsZogG_laptop: anyway, you dont have to ask to query me14:47
dm8tbritsnotabigtruck: people who insist on getting answers in 2 nanoseconds and go berserk and flood the channel with punctuation and all caps are still being dicks. just saying.14:47
itsnotabigtruckdm8tbr: well, yeah, that's the opposite extreme14:48
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itsnotabigtrucki'm not saying that's good, but it would be nice if irc wasn't dominated by people who join 800 channels and talk in none of them14:48
fralsmaybe they are all talking but somewhere you dont see, hence why they dnot talk in the other channels ;)14:49
itsnotabigtruckso many people don't do any chit chat and don't help anyone out, they just sit around and hoover up messages14:49
* dm8tbr is on many channels and actually follows most of them. *shrug*14:49
fralsdunno, i idle in lots of channels and soak up stuff, but talk when i have something to say :P14:49
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fralswhich means in some channels i dont talk much, in others lots more14:49
fralsi might be a bad irc'er, i guess ;D14:50
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petterii just ignore all joins/parts etc. makes these channels much more nicer to read14:51
itsnotabigtruckfrals: well, you don't seem to be one of the talkative individuals :p14:51
itsnotabigtrucki don't think i've seen you say anything here for a month or two14:51
itsnotabigtruckok, you said something yesterday so that's not quite the case :p14:52
ElleoI guess I'll make a generic support site for my app just for the ovi store, that doesn't mention anything else (and which I'll probably never update)14:53
fralsitsnotabigtruck: ive probably said my fair share of stuff in this channel over time, though, but i still idle here because i have some interest in harmattan still, and just because i dont have tim to talk every day doesnt mean i dont read stuff ;)14:54
fralsi guess most people that [full time commitment] have their activity vary over time, and not only on irc :p14:55
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khertanfrals: +115:49
khertanfrals: no time to give longer answer15:49
* SpeedEvil imagines khertan typing one-handed while climbing a cliff.15:50
khertanSpeedEvil: it s more difficult than climbing a cliff, i 'm giving my baby his bottle16:01
paby the way, is it official why skype on N9 does not video call?16:04
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trxrzr does the package git in your repo support svn?16:09
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xmlich02hi, I am trying to develop application using syncfw example. Is there any documentation how to debug it? Is there any log file for it? The /var/log/syslog contains following line "signonpluginprocess: Cannot read from cancel socket can anyone tell me how" (>100 times)16:20
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Elleoxmlich02: my approach with syncfw was just to have a tiny syncfw plugin that called by real application via dbus16:30
Elleomuch easier to develop that way, and much better for users when upgrading16:31
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Elleosince syncfw needs restarting to take account of a change to your plugin16:31
Elleocalled my*16:31
itsnotabigtruckrzr: could you sync mosh with the 1maemo3 version in my repo?16:33
itsnotabigtruckit seems that when you uploaded it, you got the 1maemo1 version that had the alignment crash16:33
xmlich02Elleo, i am just starting an QProcess since i am not skilled with dbus. My plugin is not working anymore and I am not able to find any reason16:36
Elleoxmlich02: well if its any use to you, here's my plugin source:
Elleoit's basically just the example plugin with a bit of dbus stuff though16:36
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aep_heya, is there any user who is allowed to run bluez-test-device? i'm trying to set a device as trusted, since there is no gui for it16:50
xmlich02Is this normal?
pacan i ask you something?16:55
paon syncfw docs it says that by default it supports syncml16:56
paby default, Ovi Contacts, Google contacts, mobical, and memotoo are supported).16:56
pawhy isnt it possible to sync contacts via syncml then?16:56
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nix-cyrusguys have some bug.. 1) install app; 2) create folder; 3) put icon of this app into this folder; 4) uninstall app...  icon still in folder and I even can't delete it. Is there any way to delete it?17:44
ZogG_laptopcoz it's probably symlink17:45
trxcan anyone tell me how to use other repositories (rzr's repo) for build-depends in c-OBS?17:57
trxis that possible?17:57
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itsnotabigtrucktrx: it is, but you won't be able to submit into apps for meego then :(18:05
trxdamn this repo mess18:06
trxi dont care, how can it be done?18:06
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trxproblem solved18:48
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trxas for apps for meego, is it known when will it support libraries?18:49
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trxhaha, i finally solved the build-depend problem, the package that i needed is git20:06
trxand only to find out that c-obs doesnt allow internet access :)20:07
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jpwhitingdoes anyone here know what to import in order to use CommonDialog on harmattan?20:53
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jpwhitingargh, CommonDialog is only a symbian component?21:05
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ZogG_laptophow do i set permission for files on deploy?22:00
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petteriit is strange how much faster irssi seems with mosh on 3g/N923:31
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