IRC log of #harmattan for Thursday, 2012-04-05

kozzi_wow, no qt5 for symbian00:00
kozzi_elop must really hate symbian00:01
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DrGrovjavispedro: I think your option is correct. I will have the current APN to be as not to use automatically.00:02
DrGrovjavispedro: That solves the case.00:02
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itsnotabigtruckalso, yay, new USB lid installed00:02
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itsnotabigtruckthe top of my N9 looks awesome again00:02
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DocScrutinizerUSB lid?00:05
DocScrutinizerthat flimsy flap00:05
* DocScrutinizer almost forgot about that thing00:06
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DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Hi there Doc. Let me know, you got a solution to my roaming question? I think you are on top of the situation in every aspect.00:08
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: I'm quite opposite of "on the top of situation" today - caught a flu or sth00:10
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DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Damn, sorry to hear that. I got it last week, it is a PITA00:11
DocScrutinizerso all my statements are just fever ideas. Anyway here they are: "allow roaming" enables your modem to log in to a network that's "alien to the SIM"00:11
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Still up for me explaining it for me the roaming thing? I am not sure how do it properly.00:11
DocScrutinizerdisabling this option should reliably block all roaming00:11
DrGrovOh sorry, I wrote already before I saw what you wrote.00:11
DocScrutinizernp, I do this all the time00:11
DrGrovIt is the damn blue button that should not be blue and it is disabled?00:12
DrGrovFuck I hate colors on phones, why not just fucking ON or OFF? LOL00:12
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: no idea, I never had the needed microSIM to test N900:12
DrGrovCould I turn off "Internet connection" as well only? And still keep the APN settings?00:12
DrGrovOr are the settings connected somehow with the current internet connection when it is enabled?00:13
DocScrutinizerturning off "internet connection" for me means it won't connect to any internet network. This may or may not affect if the modem actually logs in to a "foreign" APN00:14
DocScrutinizernope, APN settings are connected to the special "packet" account in internet networks00:15
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DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Ok, so I will not lose the APN settings anyhow? That is a relief00:15
sahib_does anyone know where to find libmeegotouchcore0 et al for linux (x86)?00:16
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sahib_n/m, found it00:17
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: first of all you shouldn't accept any configuration SMS that for sure will be sent by any foreign network your device is roaming to00:18
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Ok, I will not download them then. I am quite sure I am not going to get one. Probably just a SMS telling me the cost of using their network bla bla.00:20
DrGrovDamn this, it is difficult to get the roaming thing under control somehow.00:20
DrGrovProbably just overthinking as usual :)00:20
DocScrutinizeryou're not downloading SMS, they pop up on your device. And each network provider sends configuration SMS to each new roaming device they encounter. One for MMS, one for internet... You'll receive them anyway, just do NOT hit "OK" when device asks you to "store" or whatever00:22
DocScrutinizeras that most likely will actually overwrite your APN settings (unless it creates an auxiliary GPRS network and keeps your primary one)00:23
javispedronever got one of those =)00:26
javispedroproviders here are just waiting for you to mess up and unwantedly hit the "connect" button, other than that, they do not move their asses for anything..00:27
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itsnotabigtruckDocScrutinizer: that's strange00:59
itsnotabigtruckis that a thing on the german/other european networks00:59
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* javispedro sighs as woody managed to bring his meego-is-useless fight to the council thread02:06
javispedroeither the guy wants to get flamed, or does never learn02:06
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* javispedro trolls some more before really giving up02:19
itsnotabigtruckhow many people have been nominated so far02:19
javispedrotoo many too count, will surely be an election02:20
itsnotabigtruckit's necessary that there be enough to exclude people trying to provoke a spat between N900 and N9 users02:20
itsnotabigtruck*exclude candidates02:20
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DocScrutinizerjavispedro: wait, I'll give you sth to moan about even more02:21
javispedroevil =)02:22
DocScrutinizeras HARM, no matter how shiny it might be, is actually useless for NIT die-hards02:22
DocScrutinizerand MAEMO council election definitely is unrelated to HARM02:22
DocScrutinizerafaik it's still MEEGO HARM02:23
itsnotabigtruckDocScrutinizer: we all know what you think about harmattan, no need to whine about it for the umpteenth time02:23
javispedrothe problem is that the harmattan hatters are getting very vocal02:24
javispedroand there WILL be blood02:24
DocScrutinizeryou're asking for an argue? you ca earn a kick instead02:24
javispedrospecially when they realize that e.g. doesn't exactly host a file sharing site =)02:24
itsnotabigtruckit's an iteration of maemo, is the main place to talk about it, it's definitely related02:24
DocScrutinizeryou're adding points on your kick account02:25
DocScrutinizerblaming me for whining when I state the obvious02:25
DocScrutinizerwhile you claim BS02:25
javispedrosee how there will be blood?02:26
javispedroI fully side with itsnotabigtruck here02:26
javispedroheck, look at this channel's users02:26
javispedroand compare with #maemo02:26
DocScrutinizerindeed, I get furious when somebody jumps train on FMC and then tells me TMO is the place to discuss meego02:26
javispedroTMO is a place to discuss BS. Therefore, it is fully able to house discussions about Harmattan. PERIOD.02:27
DocScrutinizerso what? and maemo council is responsible for meego now?02:27
javispedroI don't think that harmattan discussions on TMO will either increase or decrease the SNR. Not when they're already there fwiw.02:27
DrGrovWell now boys, take it easy :)02:28
DocScrutinizerthis notion of texrat that "maemo council should guide the maemo community into a bright meego/whatever future" - HARRHARR02:29
ieatlintthis sounds like an argument that needs to be solved by knives or copious amounts of alcohol02:29
javispedro... right after crashing the tizen conference ...02:29
ieatlinti'm going to that :P02:29
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Would you mind giving me op status for a minute or even two?02:30
DocScrutinizerwhat for?02:30
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: I was hoping to be evil... But you already saw what I was aiming for ;-)02:30
DocScrutinizerif you wanna kick me for trolling, I'm already sold to the idea02:30
DrGrovDaaaaamn you DocScrutinizer02:31
DrGrovNo no no, not you. Someone else02:31
DrGrovSo, you wouldn't mind me getting op status for a minute?02:32
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Nah, sorry about that. I am too worked up. Can not even sleep anymore goddamnit02:33
javispedroI think it's the best time to read an article titled "Google Isn't So Bad After All"02:34
ieatlintto quote a friend of mine (and ex-googler), google has shown us how a company can not be evil, but still be a huge dick02:35
DrGrovWTF? Google is not so bad after all?02:35
DrGrovDisregard my future comments, I am way too tired but can not sleep02:36
DrGrovHave the trip in less than 5h30min but nah, sleep is not coming02:36
javispedro"disregard my future comments" is pretty much usual for IRC =902:36
DrGrovjavispedro: Thanks for the link, I might click it if I find a bit of sleepy reading in that article :)02:36
DrGrovWell, yes... Yes, regard not my future comments but my current ones02:37
DrGrovHuh? tl;dr? What is this modern slang?02:37
DrGrovI must be getting old...02:37
javispedroit is probably older than me02:37
DrGrovWell, thanks for the talking. I gotta go and try to get some sleep at least.02:43
javispedroI should design some flags for the upcoming civil war =)02:44
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MFaro-TusinoI need some help. I have an app that needs to create a file, so I used /home/user/.Appname as the directory only for the files thet get altered, rest is in /opt/Appname but i get a permission error03:04
javispedrowhen do you get the error?03:04
MFaro-Tusinoit executes a script under user so i am not sure why the issue03:04
MFaro-Tusinowhen i run the app03:05
MFaro-Tusinoinstall is fine03:05
javispedrobut can you check exactly which operation you are getting an error with?03:05
javispedroif you are testing this on device, on the developer mode configuration applet, you can install the "Tracing" tools03:05
javispedroit contains one called strace which will be of help here.03:05
MFaro-Tusinoyeah, it is writing to the home/user/.appname folder03:05
javispedrowhat happens if you run stat /home/user/.appname03:06
MFaro-Tusinoaccess is 75503:07
javispedroand uid and gid?03:07
javispedroright on the same line03:07
javispedroshould be user/users03:07
MFaro-Tusinouid is 29999/user did is 29999/users03:07
javispedrothe file you are trying to modify already exists?03:08
javispedro(modify or create)03:09
MFaro-Tusinono, one yes, one no03:09
MFaro-Tusinoso one file just gets modified, the other needs to be created03:09
javispedroand which one fails? =)03:11
MFaro-Tusinolet me check :)03:11
javispedroand btw are you running this from qt creator?03:11
MFaro-Tusinono, it is a python scripted app03:12
javispedrodoes it run from a cron script, a init.d script, or .. ?03:12
MFaro-Tusinoit is launched from a shell script when the desktop icon is clicked03:12
MFaro-Tusinoit is an error updating the file03:14
javispedrocreating one works?03:14
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MFaro-Tusinono, on a second inspection, they both fail, based on the xterm output03:17
MFaro-Tusinoagain, permission issue03:17
MFaro-Tusinoif i manually place the files in the respective folders (no deb package install) everything works fine03:18
MFaro-Tusinois there a way to retain user permission even through pkgmgr?03:18
javispedrowhat do you mean, if you manually copy the package files but still use the script to run them?03:18
javispedroI mean03:19
javispedroyou install the script by cp-ing and  then run it and it creates the files fine?03:19
MFaro-Tusinothat is how i did it before i packaged the app03:20
javispedroso it is aegis then03:20
MFaro-TusinoStupid aegis03:20
javispedroare you running openmode or have ever done anything related to aegis?03:20
MFaro-TusinoCurrently in open mode, as well as have opensh03:21
javispedroan easy way out, if you are doing your own manifest, is to add UID::user to whatever script is the one failing03:24
javispedroI ponder.03:25
MFaro-TusinoIt is a shell script that invokes a python script, the shell has a bother script as well, so should i add the UID for both python and script03:25
javispedrohow do you call the python script?03:25
javispedro./ or python
MFaro-Tusinopython stuff.py03:26
MFaro-TusinoI have to go to uni, but thank you very much for the help, will most likely be back on irc later03:29
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itsnotabigtruckjust noticed that there's ads at the bottom of app entries in meecatalog05:00
itsnotabigtruckhas anyone else seen that?05:01
itsnotabigtruck yep, looks like it went in with 1.1.005:03
itsnotabigtruckforget that05:03
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itsnotabigtruckthis is peculiar05:35
itsnotabigtrucklooks like appsformeego bugged out again05:35
itsnotabigtruck2.2.29 has 6 approvals and should have been promoted05:36
itsnotabigtrucklooks like the same thing happened that occurred with ad-hac05:37
itsnotabigtruckthat is, the new version got promoted, then the old version was promoted over it and clobbered it05:37
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itsnotabigtruckArie: yup, you're in06:05
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Ariewhois/ jussi06:09
Ariejussi are you the jussi kosonen of fmobi?06:12
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PaulePanterIn Erlangen (Germany) in an O2/Nokia shop I was told I could buy a N9 for 420 €.10:43
PaulePanterDid Nokia change its strategy?10:43
PaulePanterdistribution strategy10:44
PaulePanterTo not compete with the Lumia/Windows phones I heard they do not sell the N9 in several Western countries like the USA or Germany.10:45
SpeedEvilMaybe they meant a lumia 90010:45
PaulePanterI definitely said N9.10:45
PaulePanterI did not question the selllers answer though. I should have.10:46
PaulePanterHe just looked on his computer screen to find out the price.10:46
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x29aPaulePanter: 64gb version?10:48
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PaulePanterx29a: He asked me if I meant the 16 GB version and I said ok.10:48
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SpeedEvil - I'd hoped these'd come down a bit.10:52
SpeedEvilBut closing on 300e for stereo speakers...10:52
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djszapiHey! Has anybody used emperorlinux here ?11:05
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infobot<a href="">BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH</a>12:39
Tronicitsnotabigtruck: y bot no has inception?12:40
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merlin1991DocScrutinizer: I think you should update that aegis-no-thanks factoid to the pr1.2 page14:20
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djszapipawky|2: ping old man... :)14:54
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RST38h"Google's Page: Dying Jobs called ME, I didn't call him:15:17
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djszapianybody having Mac here ?16:01
RST38h"having" in what way?16:03
RST38hdoes watching online store count? =)16:03
djszapithat is double point.16:03
lizardohmm, I like their sandwiches <:o)16:04
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itsnotabigtruckTronic: hm, i wonder if that was set before or after inception came out16:26
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DocScrutinizermerlin1991: I think you could lrn2ibot16:44
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merlin1991DocScrutinizer: I always appreciate docs ;)17:08
DocScrutinizer~aegis-no-thanks is also
infobotDocScrutinizer: okay17:11
DocScrutinizerI don't know what you are talking about17:13
infobotAsterisk documentation is available at (Official Asterisk Documentation Wiki), the Voip-Info wiki at (~voip-info) or Asterisk: The Future of Telephony (~book)17:13
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tehdelygot my play 360º :)17:20
tehdelyit's bad-ass17:20
kozzitap 2 play rocks17:21
tehdelyit's srsly handy.  i like to listen to music on my commute on headphones17:23
tehdelyi can come home, tap the speaker, and it switches from headphones to speaker17:23
tehdelyi think this is the first actual, non-gimmicky use for NFC17:23
tehdelyeverything else i've seen is like "TAP THIS AD TO RECEIVE AN AD"17:23
tehdelykinda like QR codes, it's a solution looking for a problem17:23
tehdelyi've never, once, seen sombody scan a QR code17:24
kozziseriously considering getting this one17:24
kozziget home, tap on the receiver, music continues17:25
tehdelyi got a 55 hour trip on Amtrak on saturday17:25
tehdelygonna take the play 360 with me17:25
tehdelykeep it in my sleeper17:25
tehdelylisten to music while i read17:25
kozziand put others listen to justin bieber17:26
kozzifor 55 hours17:26
tehdelyi'll play strictly 2pac17:26
tehdelythat should shake everyone up17:27
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mankelihello people17:32
mankeliis anyone using sshfs with pr1.2 on n9? :-)17:33
mankelisince the sshfs package in rzr's repo depends on fuse-utils package, of which there is no version to install with 2.8.6maemo5+0m717:40
itsnotabigtruck~inception is how you own your phone (see #inception):
infobot...but inception is already something else...17:41
itsnotabigtruck~inception is also how you own your phone (see #inception):
infobotitsnotabigtruck: okay17:41
infobot<a href="">BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH</a>, or how you own your phone (see #inception):
mankeliyes, we all have to go deeper sometimes.17:42
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djszapifaenil: qmake is a real crap17:45
faenildjszapi, xD17:46
djszapireally really crap17:46
djszapiI wasted more time with it this week than with any other build system17:46
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DocScrutinizermerlin1991: eh?17:50
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pawky|2djszapi: ping young man...17:54
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* RST38h moos at javispedro18:13
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Arieno one is active, though it seems you are here18:27
RST38hArie: Everybody ignoring you. You are insignificant. Your life has no meaning.18:31
ArieI am winning at this game of life then18:31
RST38hWait until your scooter reaches the edge of the playing field though...18:31
Ariei thought that #harmattan would be more active18:32
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itsnotabigtruckit's kinda dead during the day and evening euro-time18:32
itsnotabigtruckit's really dead during the night euro-time, i.e. most of the day us-time18:32
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itsnotabigtruckbtw don't forget that there's an #inception for inception-specific stuff, you all need to get in there18:35
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kozziit's kinda dead...all time18:43
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javispedrofunny eh?19:02
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itsnotabigtruckmankeli: still there?19:51
itsnotabigtruckit probably wants fuse-utils from
itsnotabigtruckalso you'll need inception to be able to actually mount anything19:53
petterihmmm that dev repository is nice. There wget and bash for me20:02
petterithere is20:02
itsnotabigtruckpetteri: wget is already in the regular repo20:03
itsnotabigtruckbash, be careful with that20:03
itsnotabigtruckif you install bash you should incept it20:03
itsnotabigtruckthat way you can use it as a shell in all situations20:03
itsnotabigtruckalso, a reminder, don't add that repo to your sources.list on pr1.2+20:04
itsnotabigtruckit breaks aegis-install20:04
petterijust installing wget now, thanks!20:04
petterii will just put the bash to ~/bin/ and lauch from there when I need20:04
jonniwget is in normal nokia repoes, you dont need to abuse dev repo20:05
itsnotabigtruck"abuse" is an abuse of words in this case :p20:05
itsnotabigtruckbut yeah, in the case of wget there's no need20:05
auenfyay, PR1.2 finally20:06
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itsnotabigtruckauenf: you know, you could have flashed PR1.2 a month and a half ago20:07
itsnotabigtruckand if you upgrade to the version of PR1.2 that just popped up, you'll have to wait all over again for PR1.320:07
itsnotabigtruckwhich is closing in quick20:08
itsnotabigtruckso it's advisable to flash 001 instead of the australian country variant firmware (or whatever it is)20:08
jonniaustralia is 00520:08
itsnotabigtruckjonni: a lot of australians have country variant firmware that isn't 00520:09
itsnotabigtruckand they've been neglecting to update country variants for months after release20:09
jonniwell counry variant is 005, some operator variants isnt20:09
itsnotabigtrucksame with switzerland, denmark, sweden, a few others20:09
itsnotabigtrucknah, 00x = not a country variant20:10
itsnotabigtrucknot sure what the generic firmware is officially called, but country variants have "Country Variant" in the pc name20:10
jonniwell they are operator variants then, 001 and 005 are region variants, 001 for europe, 003 for china and 005 for australia.20:11
itsnotabigtrucki'm not 100% sure but i'm fairly certain that a number of countries have local firmware variants that have nothing to do with carriers20:11
jonnibut yes, if you flash 001/003/005 you dont have to wait for your operator variant to appear20:11
itsnotabigtruckand it's not an N9 only thing20:11
itsnotabigtruckmy E71 shipped with some strange country variant US product code, for example, that came with some java games bundled in20:12
itsnotabigtruckwhich they repeatedly neglected to update20:12
itsnotabigtruckas opposed to the generic product code20:12
jonnipersonally I just always use 001 as its easiest20:13
auenf299 is australia country variant20:13
auenf005 is generic aus20:13
itsnotabigtruckauenf: anyway, just flash 00120:13
itsnotabigtruckor 005 is ok too20:13
itsnotabigtruckafaik they're more or less identical20:13
itsnotabigtruckhas anyone documented any differences between any of the non-carrier-branded ones besides 003 (china)?20:14
auenfon device backup doesnt backup 'messages' right?20:14
itsnotabigtrucknot sure20:14
auenfhmm, 300mb is going to take long enough to download20:15
auenfadsl1 ftw20:15
jonniforums has commandline tool to backup/restore sms messages20:16
itsnotabigtruckauenf: did you read any of the stuff i was just saying :/20:16
auenfi read it20:16
itsnotabigtruckalso it looks like argentina, australia, croatia, denmark, portugal, sweden, switzerland, turkey, vietnam20:17
itsnotabigtruckall have country variants20:17
VelmontNot Norway? We have norwegian keyboard, -- and a stupid telenor-logo that runs when I start the phone.20:18
itsnotabigtruckUAE too20:18
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: you have a carrier branded one20:18
itsnotabigtruckthe ones i listed are neither generic not carrier branded20:19
itsnotabigtruckthey're firmware versions that have no good reason to exist, that nokia routinely just forgets about20:19
auenfthat doesnt have messages in it ;)20:19
auenfjust mms20:19
VelmontLuckily noone has ever literally branded phones in Norway with operators. -- This is the first time I see it branded with a software video on startup. -- Should be able to remove it though, but I don't really start the phone that often anyway ;]20:19
auenfsurely that is a bug?20:19
itsnotabigtruckhmmmm, i wonder how one changes the startup vid20:20
itsnotabigtruckanyway, Velmont: what firmware version are you on20:21
Velmontwhat is it on other phones? -- On mine, there's the nokia drop, -- then the telenor thingy, then it has started.20:21
itsnotabigtruckif PR1.2 you have to wait until PR1.320:21
itsnotabigtruckif PR1.1 you can debrand it to PR1.2 now20:21
itsnotabigtruckno matter what you do, don't update your phone once PR1.3 comes out20:22
VelmontI have PR1.2 :-) Always quick on the update button -- but I can wait next time :]20:22
itsnotabigtruckif you upgrade to a branded/country variant PR1.320:22
itsnotabigtruckwithout hackery you won't be able to debrand it ever20:22
itsnotabigtruckanyway, ok, then when PR1.3 arrives, wait for the 001 firmware image to come out and flash that20:23
itsnotabigtruckthen you'll be set20:23
itsnotabigtruckand if you feel like going to the telenor version you can upgrade to that when they release it, but then you can't go back20:23
Velmontcool, i'll do that20:23
itsnotabigtruckhowever setting a custom boot animationb would be cool20:23
itsnotabigtruckbefore the N9 launched someone made a really snazzy one20:24
itsnotabigtruckah, it's /usr/share/MProgressIndicator/themes/opengl/MainAnimation_LowNoise.mp420:25
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: could you confirm that on your phone that's the telenor thing?20:25
itsnotabigtruck so awesome20:26
rigoElleo: ping about the client :)20:26
* DocScrutinizer yawns and looks at his geeky "DONT PANIC!" bootvid on N90020:27
* DocScrutinizer burps, sounds like "frrckaegs"20:28
VelmontHmmm. How can I easily check? No mplayer on the phone :P20:29
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: well, you could scp it i guess20:29
Velmontgood idea20:30
franz`anyone might know why upstart is ignoring a single file?20:31
franz`on reboot I see  2225 root     {load-launcher.s} /bin/sh /etc/init/xsession/ 0 1 apps avahi-daemon scrobbler20:32
franz`except scrobbler isn't running20:32
franz`"start apps/scrobbler" as root works fine though20:32
franz`(in b4 jeering at avahi)20:32
Elleorigo: pong?20:32
itsnotabigtruckfranz`: is your .conf file proper?20:33
itsnotabigtruckmaybe it's not set to run on boot20:33
itsnotabigtruckbtw is there anything special one has to do in order to put an initscript out of /etc/init/apps?20:33
itsnotabigtruckhow is sequencing done20:33
franz`I think so20:34
franz` it's this20:34
franz`wait hmm20:34
itsnotabigtruckfranz`: doesn't have starton20:34
franz`no yeah that might be it20:34
itsnotabigtruckno wonder it doesn't start lol20:34
RST38h"...We put ten cats in and got over a hundred back out. Either this thing multiplies them or it was saving them up until it got here..."20:40
Velmontitsnotabigtruck: Nope, that's what comes before the telenor video.20:42
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: ah20:43
itsnotabigtruckwell, poke around in that directory and see if there's any other mp4s or whatnot20:43
VelmontNo other mp4s it seems :)20:44
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itsnotabigtruckVelmont: maybe try grep telenor /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list20:46
itsnotabigtruckand also grep mp4 /var/lib/dpkg/info/*xxx*.list where xxx is your 3 digit variant code20:47
itsnotabigtruckAnssi138: hm? lol20:48
Velmontitsnotabigtruck: Nope and nope. -- Found pictures and stuff, but not the video.20:50
VelmontBut what is normally showing when my phone is showing that logo?20:51
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: normally you get NOKIA (bootloader), then NOKIA again but with a grey rippling background (OS boot)20:55
itsnotabigtruckthen a spinning indicator (gui boot)20:55
Velmont/usr/share $ cat /etc/mwelcome.d/320.conf20:55
itsnotabigtruckthere you go20:55
itsnotabigtruckshould have said to grep -I20:55
itsnotabigtruckmwelcome.d eh20:56
VelmontWell, actually grep -i didn't show it either. I did grep -i as well.20:57
VelmontIt's not in a package, trying to find where it lies.20:57
itsnotabigtruckhm, interesting20:57
itsnotabigtrucki'd have expected it to be in one of the -320 packages20:58
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Velmontfind / -name "Telenor_4sec_startup.mp4" 2> /dev/null  -- doesn'tfind anything either!20:58
kozzimmm xxx and mp420:59
itsnotabigtrucknow that's weird20:59
itsnotabigtrucklol kozzi20:59
itsnotabigtruckVelmont: do grep 320.conf /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list20:59
itsnotabigtruckthen cat the file that comes up20:59
Velmontitsnotabigtruck: Already donnit,-- nothing there except the conf file. And a few other needed things like copyright et al.21:01
VelmontDon'tunderstand where they get that file from. And it has no path either.21:02
itsnotabigtruckwell that's peculiar21:02
VelmontMaybe from within some initrd thingy?21:02
itsnotabigtruckbut the N9 doesn't actually use an initrd21:03
franz`hmm, still not working21:10
franz`which is weird since the conf came like that from the deb21:11
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rigoElleo: does pong mean post ready?21:23
Elleorigo: heh, not yet21:24
Elleowell posting in general works, but its not quite ready to be released21:24
Elleostill need to make replying to stuff work21:24
Elleoand make it so that pressing statuses in the events feed brings you to the app reply screen21:25
rigoElleo: as implemented in HTML on puts replies next to posts, like in the SMS message window21:25
itsnotabigtruckElleo: is it integrated like the twitter client is?21:25
rigoyou could use that, if it is a library21:25
itsnotabigtruckalso, make sure to use the proper fonts and design style21:26
itsnotabigtruckthere's a LOT of apps shipped with fonts other than the system font21:26
Elleoitsnotabigtruck: yeah, it integrates with the events feed just like the twitter app does21:26
rigosince twitter forces the URI shortener on everyone, I try to escape to identi.ca21:26
Elleoand I'm making the in-app timeline look pretty similar to the events feed21:27
rigoElleo: I promise a donation if it is ready21:27
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Elleoheh, no need for donations; I'm just happy if people enjoy it21:27
ElleoI'm on holiday for the next few days so I should be able to get a fair amount finished21:27
rigosorry, but merits are merits21:27
rigoand unless you're in Timbouktou, wire transfer should do21:28
Elleowell that's very generous of you21:28
rigono, it is entirely selfish :)21:29
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rigowe'll organize another one once I get some funding rolling21:34
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Velmontfsw <321:36
itsnotabigtruckugh, why does it seem like all such things are in the EU21:36
Elleolooks interesting21:37
Velmontitsnotabigtruck: Well lots of really nice techy stuff in US. -- But much of the more political/philosophical motivated stuff seems to reside in Europe.21:38
itsnotabigtruckbtw does anyone know what devicelockd checks when it causes a MALF21:43
itsnotabigtruckthis came up a while back but no one ever came up with a straight answer21:44
itsnotabigtruckor, in fact, in general, the 'Security problem (bin1): bin2' MALFs21:46
itsnotabigtruckunder normal circumstances an integrity failure just prevents loading/running something so i'm curious what triggers those sort of MALF errors21:48
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kuenxHello. I have recently flashed my N9 with a fresh PR1.2 and then restored a backup. I have enabled developer mode and I want to be able to SSH to my phone over WLAN. But I just don't get it to work. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?23:00
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Anssi138kuenx: have you tried to create connection with qt creator.23:04
franz`you don't need that, just open the SDK Connection Tool developer mode installed, then ssh developer@phone'sip with the password it gives23:05
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rigoitsnotabigtruck, you get lots of funds for big data analysis research in the US, and some privacy research funding in the EU, so this one was financed by the project23:25
rigokuenx, I had the same issue after upgrade. re-installing packages fixed it, but trouble is, I do not remember which23:26
rigolook into the archives for a discussion between itsnotabigtruck and me. He and djszapi helped me to fix this23:29
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kuenxAnssi138, franz`: I have tried that. I doesn't work either. connection refused. And Qt Creator can't deploy the SSH keys when setting up the device23:49
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kuenxrigo: do you think it has something to do with restoring the backup I did with the backup? I made the backup in PR1.1, then flashed it with PR1.2 and then restored the backup23:51
kuenxShould I try flashing it again and check if it works?23:52
kuenxrigo: I will check the archives23:53
rigoI don't think so23:53
rigoI rather think it is the PR 1.2 update that overrides some files and if you reinstall the open-ssh packages, it works again23:54
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Anssi138kuenx: is the ssh server running on device?23:56
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kuenxAnssi138: hah! no23:58
kuenxAnssi138: How stupid of me not to check this23:58
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kuenxCan i start it like on debian?23:59

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