IRC log of #harmattan for Wednesday, 2012-04-04

*** risca has quit IRC00:00
*** Jamison has left #harmattan00:00
*** lizardo has quit IRC00:00
*** jluisn has joined #harmattan00:03
*** risca has joined #harmattan00:05
*** jluisn has quit IRC00:05
*** jluisn has joined #harmattan00:10
*** NIN101 has quit IRC00:10
*** jluisn has quit IRC00:15
*** SpeedEvil has joined #harmattan00:38
*** crevetor has joined #harmattan00:39
*** tbf_ has quit IRC00:47
*** ZogG_laptop has quit IRC01:23
*** crevetor has quit IRC01:31
*** virtuald is now known as dolan01:33
*** dolan is now known as duk01:34
*** duk is now known as virtuald01:34
itsnotabigtruckM4rtinK: what was the problem01:40
*** rm_work has quit IRC01:40
itsnotabigtruckJames_Blond: obviously but he said something about requests being deleted or something01:40
M4rtinKitsnotabigtruck: well not really a problem01:47
M4rtinKjust hat to package it properly so that it got all the credentials it needed01:47
M4rtinKtook quite some time :)01:47
M4rtinKI'll have to document it on the wiki once I have some free time01:48
itsnotabigtruckM4rtinK: ah01:51
itsnotabigtruckwhat was incorrect about the package?01:51
itsnotabigtruckif the manifest wasn't actually included that would kinda explain the problem :p01:51
M4rtinKnothing incorrect01:53
M4rtinKI first looked how AGTL and company does it01:53
M4rtinKfound that weird behaviour I described before01:54
M4rtinKand then finally build a modRana package that works fine :)01:54
M4rtinKBTW, I now have a set of scripts that pulls updates from github, builds source packages for Fremantle and Harmattan and uploads them to OBS01:55
M4rtinKautomatically :)01:55
*** Natunen has quit IRC01:57
*** javispedro has quit IRC01:59
*** crevetor has joined #harmattan02:00
*** arcean has quit IRC02:08
*** faenil has joined #harmattan02:10
*** faenil has quit IRC02:19
*** thek has joined #harmattan02:20
*** aquarius has quit IRC03:02
itsnotabigtruckM4rtinK: well, it sounds like it wasn't 'packaged properly' before03:05
itsnotabigtruckit's just that this seems weird03:05
*** crevetor has quit IRC03:09
*** lmoura has quit IRC03:10
*** Anssi138 has quit IRC03:23
*** SpeedEvil has quit IRC03:32
*** adlan has quit IRC03:44
*** SpeedEvil has joined #harmattan03:46
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC03:59
*** npm has quit IRC04:02
*** nid0 has quit IRC04:17
*** nid0 has joined #harmattan04:17
*** Stecchino has quit IRC04:29
Enforcerhttp://images.anandtech.com/doci/5724/Lumia900-0171.jpg <-- 900 doesnt say nokia on the back :/04:32
SpeedEvilyou mean you've got a fake?04:34
*** adlan has joined #harmattan04:40
*** npm has joined #harmattan04:43
*** Stecchino has joined #harmattan04:51
*** Stecchino has joined #harmattan04:51
*** trx has quit IRC04:54
*** abinader has quit IRC04:58
*** trx has joined #harmattan04:59
itsnotabigtruckSpeedEvil: lol?05:15
*** oberling has joined #harmattan05:38
*** oberling_ has quit IRC05:38
itsnotabigtruckhttp://www.hackertyper.com/05:43
itsnotabigtrucktype in a whole bunch of nonsense and hit alt 3 times05:43
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC06:03
*** adlan has quit IRC06:14
*** adlan has joined #harmattan06:14
*** natunen has joined #harmattan06:36
*** teleshoes has joined #harmattan06:44
*** risca has quit IRC06:56
*** mece has joined #harmattan07:11
*** teleshoes has quit IRC07:40
*** risca has joined #harmattan07:41
*** xarcass has joined #harmattan07:42
*** teleshoes has joined #harmattan07:54
*** teleshoes has quit IRC08:06
*** hardaker has quit IRC08:08
*** xarcass has quit IRC08:12
*** benares_98 has quit IRC08:21
*** decibyte has quit IRC08:28
*** decibyte has joined #harmattan08:28
*** ab_ has quit IRC08:35
*** gabriel9 has joined #harmattan08:45
*** pa has quit IRC08:54
*** rnovacek has joined #harmattan09:05
*** tbf has joined #harmattan09:06
*** pa has joined #harmattan09:07
*** risca has quit IRC09:21
*** ciacon has joined #harmattan09:32
ciaconI found a minor bug regarding Skype + Callendar. Skype contact is providing a birthday date. Though the birthday is on the 12th and editing the profile does show this correctly (though I can't alter the skype birthday), it is entered into my calendar on the 11th and can't be edited either... an oddity...09:34
ciaconwhich brings me to the question, is there a bugtracker and if so, where?09:35
*** lamikr has joined #harmattan09:36
jonnithere is no bugzilla avail anymore.09:37
phakociacon: bah. Timezones suck09:39
ciaconphako: had not actually considered time zones, though I'd be surprised if that contact were in a different TZ... interestingly enough I noticed this phenomena, as another of my contacts has birthday on the 11th, and that date is displayed correctly throughout the UI09:41
jonniatleast there is no bug open for that, so my guess would be timezone too09:42
*** ab has joined #harmattan09:56
*** ab has quit IRC09:56
*** ab has joined #harmattan09:56
*** gabriel9|work has joined #harmattan09:59
*** natunen has quit IRC10:03
phakogetting the whole time-zone/birthday handling right was rather difficult. And apparently we missed something :-/10:05
*** Natunen has joined #harmattan10:06
*** Adlan_ has joined #harmattan10:13
*** thek has quit IRC10:13
*** heymaste_ has quit IRC10:14
*** adlan has quit IRC10:15
ciaconprogramming with time is an art. especially if you want to do it right :D10:16
SpeedEvilIt's prone to epoch fail.10:17
*** heymaster has joined #harmattan10:17
*** Natunen has quit IRC10:18
*** aquarius has joined #harmattan10:19
*** gabriel9_ has joined #harmattan10:23
*** gabriel9_ has quit IRC10:26
*** gabriel9|work has quit IRC10:26
*** gabriel9|work has joined #harmattan10:27
*** djszapi has joined #harmattan10:28
*** djszapi has left #harmattan10:28
*** Natunen has joined #harmattan10:30
*** e0x has quit IRC10:45
*** e0x has joined #harmattan10:55
*** spenap has quit IRC10:58
*** jreznik has joined #harmattan11:00
*** M4rtinK has joined #harmattan11:18
*** SpeedEvil has quit IRC11:27
*** spenap has joined #harmattan11:36
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC11:41
*** spenap has quit IRC11:41
*** SpeedEvil has joined #harmattan11:41
*** spenap has joined #harmattan11:42
*** Anssi138 has joined #harmattan11:46
*** spenap has quit IRC11:48
*** M4rtinK has quit IRC11:50
*** xarcass has joined #harmattan12:00
*** diorahman has joined #harmattan12:01
*** leio has quit IRC12:01
*** leio has joined #harmattan12:02
diorahmanJust helping my friend, would you mine trying this app: http://bit.ly/HkLLwC ?12:03
diorahman*mind12:03
diorahmanLOL12:03
*** gabriel9 has joined #harmattan12:08
*** SpeedEvil has quit IRC12:08
*** snowpong has joined #harmattan12:14
*** SpeedEvil has joined #harmattan12:24
*** diorahman has quit IRC12:26
*** Adlan_ has quit IRC12:31
*** ZogG_laptop has joined #harmattan12:36
*** ciacon_ has joined #harmattan12:36
*** ciacon has quit IRC12:37
*** adlan has joined #harmattan12:44
*** spenap has joined #harmattan12:47
*** diorahman has joined #harmattan12:51
diorahmanPlease, please, try this app: http://bit.ly/HkLLwC :-) give us some feedback :-)13:03
*** snowpong_ has joined #harmattan13:17
*** lbt_away has joined #harmattan13:19
*** KRF_ has joined #harmattan13:20
*** adlan has quit IRC13:20
*** special_ has joined #harmattan13:20
*** lbt has quit IRC13:21
*** lbt_away is now known as lbt13:21
*** radiofree_ has joined #harmattan13:22
petteriwhat app is that13:22
*** chouchoune1 has joined #harmattan13:24
*** snowpong has quit IRC13:27
*** KRF has quit IRC13:27
*** chouchoune has quit IRC13:27
*** villager has quit IRC13:27
*** special has quit IRC13:27
*** radiofree has quit IRC13:27
*** radiofree_ is now known as radiofree13:27
*** lizardo has joined #harmattan13:31
diorahmanpetteri: An Unofficial TEDTalks Client for N913:34
petteriok13:35
*** snowpong_ is now known as snowpong13:39
*** diorahman has quit IRC13:51
*** diorahman_ has joined #harmattan13:51
*** diorahman_ has quit IRC13:59
*** diorahman has joined #harmattan14:00
*** diorahman has left #harmattan14:01
*** chouchoune1 is now known as chouchoune14:01
*** jaywink has joined #harmattan14:05
*** djszapi has joined #harmattan14:13
djszapiHey! Any qmake master thingie in here ?14:13
macmaNwhere can i get telnet or nc or socat for harmattan14:21
*** eean has quit IRC14:22
*** DocScrutinizer has quit IRC14:26
*** DocScrutinizer has joined #harmattan14:28
*** eean has joined #harmattan14:28
*** eean has quit IRC14:29
*** MFaro-Tusino has joined #harmattan14:30
MFaro-TusinoCan someone help with app packaging?14:31
petteriqtsdk will do it for you14:31
*** eean has joined #harmattan14:31
MFaro-TusinoMy app doesn't use qt14:32
MFaro-Tusinoit is a python script14:32
MFaro-TusinoI just need the deb to extract the files to given folders14:33
MFaro-Tusinoi have a tar.bz2 with a DEBIAN folder and the directories the app is to be installed to14:34
MFaro-TusinoI can package the app, install, but install doesn't run correctly, so i concluded the packaging is failing somewhere14:34
DocScrutinizer(birthday) dang, we've seen this in the felt 25th iteration now14:35
petteriMFaro-Tusino: you could make a simple app with qtsdk and compare the debian packaging14:35
MFaro-TusinoI know the file structure, used a empty app and package it to get the layout of debian folder and files in it etc14:36
djszapiMFaro-Tusino: what is the problem with install ?14:36
MFaro-Tusinoone sec, i will get the exact output14:37
*** hhartz has quit IRC14:39
*** hhartz has joined #harmattan14:39
jaywinkMFaro-Tusino, check out pyside-assistant: MFaro-Tusino14:40
jaywinksorry http://wiki.meego.com/Documentation_for_pyside-assistant14:41
jaywink:D14:41
MFaro-Tusinoi will thanks14:41
MFaro-TusinoThe things is, the issues i have with the current package i made, i have fixed, but can't seem to create a package with it :/14:41
lizardoMFaro-Tusino: if you are trying to install the package with the Application Manager UI (instead of dpkg -i) , you need to have "Maemo-Flags: visible" on DEBIAN/control otherwise it will reject the package14:42
MFaro-TusinoNo, i have been using dpkg -i14:44
*** DocScrutinizer has quit IRC14:45
*** DocScrutinizer has joined #harmattan14:45
matrixxMFaro-Tusino: you can check out CDBS: http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/ to do easy packages which just drops files in their folders14:46
matrixxThere's some explanation here: http://matrixxreloaded.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/themes-for-harmattan-part-2-packaging-and-building/14:46
matrixxthe code piece in debian/rules is just two lines with CDBS14:47
matrixxvery handy for harmattan theme packages :)14:47
MFaro-TusinoI was looking at that14:49
MFaro-Tusinotried to use the obs stuff, but scratch box failed for me so gave up on that method14:49
matrixxdoesn't need OBS14:50
matrixxworks also with dpkg-buildpackage14:50
matrixxonly minus side is you have to add cdbs dependency to your package build dependencies14:50
MFaro-TusinoLooking into cdbs now14:52
MFaro-Tusinothanks for the tip14:52
matrixxI hope it works for you :)14:53
djszapiouch, cdbs...14:58
*** James_Blond has quit IRC14:59
matrixxdjszapi: what's wrong with cdbs?15:00
djszapimatrixx: no control over what you do, and the boilerplate is not maintained sufficiently anymore.15:01
matrixxdjszapi: I don't use it otherwise, only for packages which need to install some files, not build anything15:02
MFaro-Tusinoright now, anything that can compile my app works for me hahha15:02
matrixxI think installing files is fairly trivial without active maintenance15:02
matrixxso works in my case15:02
MFaro-TusinoMatrixx: Can you help me with the .dsc file15:04
MFaro-Tusinoeg, structure etc15:04
matrixxI think that should be generated with buildpackage15:04
matrixxbut, I've created one from the scratch too and I can help15:05
djszapimatrixx: yes, it works for installation, but I would like to stick with two different technologies, if dh also works for that case.15:06
djszapiwould not*15:06
matrixxMFaro-Tusino: you can check out this as a template: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=themechanger_0.0.2.dsc&package=themechanger&project=home%3Amatrixx%3Athemechanger&rev=b552f13e402f850ce57f8037d3ab7a7315:06
matrixxonly replace with your data15:06
matrixxthe other hash in the Files section is md515:07
matrixxand the numbers between hash and tarball name are file sizes15:08
matrixxdjszapi: one day you can show me how to do the same with dh :)15:09
djszapimatrixx: sorry, but I am out of Harmattan and debian packaging. :)15:10
djszapiAlthough, we got our first two KDE Apps working on Android, yay \o/15:10
matrixxdjszapi: oh, good for you ;)15:10
MFaro-Tusinoevery time i run make make sums i gt an error so i don't have checksums :/15:12
matrixxluckily there's plenty of tools to create them15:16
*** jaywink has quit IRC15:18
*** deimos has joined #harmattan15:21
*** hardaker has joined #harmattan15:27
MFaro-Tusino@Matrixx: Can I send you my source code and you tell me what needs to be fixed?15:29
matrixxMFaro-Tusino: I can check it out later if you haven't figured it out, now I'm just about to go have dinner15:29
MFaro-Tusinothats okay, enjoy your meal15:30
matrixxthanks15:30
*** djszapi has left #harmattan15:31
auenfwelp, a telstra bigpond branded n9 got the PR1.2 OTA update before my 'country variant' version :/15:48
matrixxMFaro-Tusino: back15:49
matrixxMFaro-Tusino: I can take a look now if not yet sorted out15:49
*** tbf has quit IRC15:51
*** tbf has joined #harmattan15:52
*** mece has quit IRC15:59
MFaro-TusinoWOO16:03
MFaro-TusinoOkay, well I installed the old package, and just edited a few things manually16:03
MFaro-TusinoIt seems to work, but obviously, and end user won't edit the files16:03
MFaro-TusinoI can email you the source?16:03
matrixxMFaro-Tusino: sure, priv16:05
*** eean has quit IRC16:06
*** psycho_oreos has joined #harmattan16:07
*** xarcass has quit IRC16:15
*** abinader has joined #harmattan16:15
*** ZogG_laptop has quit IRC16:18
*** eean has joined #harmattan16:18
*** tbf_ has joined #harmattan16:23
*** thek has joined #harmattan16:26
*** tbf has quit IRC16:27
*** strank has joined #harmattan16:32
strankI'm trying to find out why msyncd fails synching my caldav/owncloud calendars. syslog shows a crash because "msyncd invoked oom-killer" - does someone know a way of getting more debug info or, alternatively, of temporarily increasing the memory limits for the oom-killer?16:37
*** niqt has joined #harmattan16:44
*** lamikr has quit IRC16:47
niqthi16:47
niqtI updated the qtsdk, now on n950  don't appears icon of development software, is a bug?16:47
*** benares_98 has joined #harmattan16:57
*** jluisn has joined #harmattan16:59
*** jaywink has joined #harmattan17:11
*** etrunko has joined #harmattan17:17
*** psycho_oreos has quit IRC17:18
auenf"I have a problem with this "swipe" thing. I keep trying to do it on my Android device now :-("17:21
*** niqt has quit IRC17:27
*** Sazpaimon_ has joined #harmattan17:37
GeneralAntillesauenf, I try to swipe everywhere.17:38
GeneralAntillesiOS feels so inelegant without it.17:39
*** Sazpaimon has quit IRC17:40
tehdelysame17:46
tehdelyi keep swiping on my iPad17:46
tehdelyand wondering why it does nothing17:46
*** risca has joined #harmattan17:47
*** Khertan has joined #harmattan17:48
KhertanHi all !17:48
Khertandoes qt-components package could be replace by one made myself ? as if i do it myself, aegis will block the process due to different source, isn't it ?17:50
*** hardaker has quit IRC17:54
itsnotabigtruckanyone speculating yet on PR1.3 release date?18:00
*** rnovacek has quit IRC18:04
Khertanitsnotabigtruck: at least 1.3-meego version of qt-components are released :)18:06
Khertanso one package is ready :)18:06
*** gabriel9|work has quit IRC18:06
*** jabis has quit IRC18:13
itsnotabigtruckKhertan: well, it's obviously close, the question though is when the whole thing is actually to be released18:26
itsnotabigtrucka lot of packages have had 1.3 branches for a while on gitorious18:27
Khertanpython -m 'import random;print '%s,%s,%s' % (random.randint(1,12), random.randint(1,31), random.randint(2012, 2018))'18:28
Khertanshould give you the answer18:28
Khertanwhy not after 2018 ? because Nazi strike back from the moon18:29
itsnotabigtrucklol18:29
Khertan(ironsky.net)18:29
* Khertan want to see it !!!!!18:29
* Tronic already did.18:31
TronicGreat movie, even if not very, ummh-- politically correct :)18:32
*** ciacon_ has quit IRC18:32
*** DrGrov has joined #harmattan18:32
KhertanTronic: there is no place to see it near my home yet18:36
*** strank has quit IRC18:39
TronicYou should contact your theater and ask for it. Apparently the cinemas are quite skeptical towards non-Hollywood movies :/18:39
Khertanspecially in france18:41
TronicYou can also DEMAND it here: http://www.ironsky.net/site/support/how-to-support/18:41
Khertanalready done :)18:41
Tronic... but contacting an independent cinema directly might work better :)18:41
Khertanyeah ... just need one ... Near home :)18:50
Khertanthere is so few independant theater in france18:50
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC18:53
*** mardy has quit IRC18:58
Khertanoh my god ... how developper can trust publish.ovi.com18:58
Khertani didn't have the same number of sales for an apps in summary and details view ...18:59
Khertanfor a same price, i got different revenue depending on country ?19:02
itsnotabigtruckKhertan: the pricing is based on 'tiers' that are different prices in different countries19:03
Khertanyeah it s 25% to 88%19:03
Khertana bit high19:03
Khertandifferences19:03
Khertanwhoah i just understand ...19:07
Khertanyou set a price point for a app19:07
Khertanso it s not the same price for everyone19:07
*** rm_work has joined #harmattan19:10
*** Natunen has quit IRC19:11
*** natunen has joined #harmattan19:13
*** NIN101 has joined #harmattan19:15
*** hardaker has joined #harmattan19:24
*** ab has quit IRC19:26
*** lmoura has joined #harmattan19:40
*** risca has quit IRC20:08
*** hardaker has quit IRC20:17
phakough. are those duicontrolpanel settings things generated from XML supposed to look like shit?20:27
itsnotabigtruckphako: the stock control panels don't look half bad, so i assume not20:28
phakothose aren't generated from XML20:29
*** jreznik has quit IRC20:30
*** jluisn has quit IRC20:33
*** risca has joined #harmattan20:35
*** jluisn has joined #harmattan20:36
*** gabriel9 has joined #harmattan20:37
*** benares_98 has quit IRC20:46
*** MFaro-Tusino has quit IRC20:47
*** Khertan has quit IRC20:47
*** MFaro-Tusino has joined #harmattan20:49
*** benares_98 has joined #harmattan20:50
*** snowpong has quit IRC20:53
*** arcean has joined #harmattan20:59
*** faenil has joined #harmattan21:05
*** M4rtinK has joined #harmattan21:21
*** strank has joined #harmattan21:23
*** kozzi_ has joined #harmattan21:23
*** risca has quit IRC21:31
*** risca has joined #harmattan21:33
*** KRF_ is now known as KRF21:34
*** ZogG_laptop has joined #harmattan21:55
*** gabriel9 has quit IRC21:56
*** natunen has quit IRC21:56
*** piggz has joined #harmattan21:57
*** Natunen has joined #harmattan22:00
piggzhi..has anyone seen this problem before..when i start my app with the binary, it works ok, but when i start it with invoker, it cant find the main.qml because it seems QApplication::applicationFilePath returns /home/user instead of /opt/.../bin/22:01
*** e-yes has joined #harmattan22:07
x29apiggz: have you set DESTDIR in your .pro file?22:17
x29aor target?22:17
piggzx29a: thx for getting back...just fixed it though22:17
x29ahow?22:18
piggzit was one of 2 things, modifying a qml file, perhaps making the cache rebuild...or, replacing the qmlapplicationviewer with one from a new clean application22:18
*** risca has quit IRC22:21
*** Timmy has joined #harmattan22:24
*** Timmy is now known as Guest6362222:24
*** Guest63622 has quit IRC22:28
*** MFaro-Tusino has quit IRC22:30
*** rzr has quit IRC22:30
*** MFaro-Tusino has joined #harmattan22:31
*** rzr has joined #harmattan22:32
*** rzr has quit IRC22:32
*** strank has quit IRC22:34
*** James_Blond has joined #harmattan22:34
*** javispedro has joined #harmattan22:39
*** blueslee has joined #harmattan22:44
*** ZogG_laptop has quit IRC22:55
*** NIN101 has quit IRC22:57
*** ZogG_laptop has joined #harmattan22:58
*** blueslee has quit IRC23:04
*** benares_98 has quit IRC23:09
*** benares_98 has joined #harmattan23:15
itsnotabigtruckwow, like a month in, my usb lids finally arrived23:20
itsnotabigtruckbut i still can't figure out how to remove the old one23:20
*** jaywink has quit IRC23:22
DrGrovitsnotabigtruck: Hi there, you got a question from me on #n9 :)23:23
*** risca has joined #harmattan23:23
DrGrovitsnotabigtruck: Probably you are almost the only one talking at this hour :)23:23
javispedrobaaa.23:25
DrGrovWell, I put the question here then as well23:25
DrGrovGotta wonder about roaming. I am travelling tomorrow to another country for one day and I am thinking that what might be the best way for me to avoid data roaming fees. Should I turn off internet connectivity completely or make sure I have disabled the roaming option?23:26
*** jluisn has quit IRC23:26
javispedroit depends on the network23:26
javispedroin any case, not a network guy.23:27
itsnotabigtruckDrGrov: tbh i don't know, and you already kinda got an answer23:27
DrGrovjavispedro: Ok. I just thought that disabling roaming option would be enough. Ah, there is the option to have background connections allowed. Well, I have that turned off and then I still turn off roaming.23:28
itsnotabigtrucki'd recommend deleting the data connection (apn)23:28
DrGrovitsnotabigtruck: Well yes, I got an answer but it actually did not make any sense what so ever but no worries :)23:28
javispedroDrGrov: well, I know of at least one network that always shows up the roaming warning even when it is not roaming. not sure if a misdetection in the other direction is possible.23:28
DrGrovjavispedro: Ah, which network is this? That sounds strange I must say.23:29
itsnotabigtruckalso i don't understand why it's so dead right now23:29
itsnotabigtruckit's only 8pm zulu23:29
itsnotabigtruckthis should be like prime irc time23:29
javispedrothe party is on another channel23:29
DrGrovitsnotabigtruck: Yeah, I am wondering too why the sudden silence over at #n923:30
*** ZogG_laptop has quit IRC23:30
itsnotabigtruckDrGrov: #n9 is always quiet23:30
DrGrovWell, I will do a search for it to make sure I get it right. If not shit happens LOL23:30
*** sahib_ has joined #harmattan23:30
javispedroDrGrov: couldn't find english website, but this is the company http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepephone23:30
DrGrovitsnotabigtruck: True, it is always like a ghost town23:30
itsnotabigtruckand like what? there aren't very many parties on freenode :p23:30
itsnotabigtrucktoo many stuffy people talking about stuffy subjects23:30
javispedroafaiu, the issue is because that operator is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator23:30
DrGrovjavispedro: Ah ok. A Spanish one then. Here in Finland I have heard the same thing with Elisa - Saunalahti since Saunalahti is a "guest" of Elisas network but still a daughter company but it can complain about roaming.23:31
DrGrovIf I turn off the internet connectivity in Settings on the N9, should that not be enough? I mean, it could not connect then to the internet yes?23:33
DrGrovOnly using WLAN23:33
javispedroyep23:33
javispedroyou can just put the apn icd on non-automatic connection23:34
DrGrovI have now the APN as a automatic connection but it does not use it unless it needs.23:34
DrGrovBut probably better yes that I put it to a non-automatic connection the APN I am using23:34
DrGrovWill it automatically switch it back to automatic connection when I use it when I get back home?23:35
javispedrono23:35
javispedrobut you can do it on your own without dying of exhaustion =)23:35
DrGrovOk, thanks for clearing that up for me :)23:36
DrGrovI just wonder one last thing about this whole internet connectivity... If I turn it off and then turn it back on when I get home, will it still remember the APN and all the correct settings?23:36
DrGrovOr do I need to do them again from scratch?23:36
javispedroif you just do the disable auto-connection thing, yes, it will remember everything23:37
javispedro(because removing the apn will, of course, make it forget everything)23:38
DrGrovjavispedro: Ok, thanks. I will do that then and for the safe side disable roaming.23:38
DrGrovI mean just turning off the internet connectivity blue button in the Settings...23:38
javispedrowell, as you wish :)23:39
javispedroin any case, remember that the appereance of a 2 or 2.5G ... icon is not an indicative that you are connected to anything23:39
DrGrovIf I turn it off the blue internet connectivity button thingie, that will still make it remember everything yes?23:39
javispedroyep23:39
DrGrovYes, I know. It is only an indication of the network, when it is blueish and constantly blue then it transfers data23:40
DrGrovGood, I hate to delete the APN and restart. Good to know that disabling the internet connectivity blue button is enough. Hate to do that again from scratch23:40
itsnotabigtruckDrGrov: who cares...23:47
DrGrovitsnotabigtruck: Who cares about what?23:52
kozzi_noodles23:53
sahib_I like noodles, and care a great deal about them.23:54
javispedrowho cares about caring about noodles?23:54
sahib_Indeed.23:55
kozzi_so much hate23:55
itsnotabigtrucklol23:55
itsnotabigtruckDrGrov: the APN thing, you seem to be going to great lengths not to delete the apn entry23:55
itsnotabigtruckwhen it's like 2 lines of information that can easily be reentered23:56
itsnotabigtruckit's just making a big deal out of nothing23:56
javispedrodepending on your provider, it could be up to 6!23:57
DrGrovitsnotabigtruck: Well, why would I delete it? Because Nokia did it fucking impossible to enable a safe and sound way of disabling roaming and/or internet connectivity and the bloody fucker can still connect itself even if I specifically asked it not to?23:57
DrGrovYes, I should wash my mouth with soap.23:57
javispedroDrGrov: I am not still sure if the option is "not safe"23:57
javispedroI mean, as said, I know of errors in one direction, but that does not mean errors in the other direction exist23:58
DrGrovjavispedro: No problem, I will figure it out eventually23:58
DrGrovjavispedro: :)23:58
javispedrojust have the 10eur. ready =)23:58
*** gabriel9 has joined #harmattan23:58
DrGrovYeah, I have it in the backpocket so I can shove it in if need :)23:58
*** hardaker has joined #harmattan23:59

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!