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| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: what was the problem | 01:40 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | James_Blond: obviously but he said something about requests being deleted or something | 01:40 |
| M4rtinK | itsnotabigtruck: well not really a problem | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | just hat to package it properly so that it got all the credentials it needed | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | took quite some time :) | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | I'll have to document it on the wiki once I have some free time | 01:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: ah | 01:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | what was incorrect about the package? | 01:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if the manifest wasn't actually included that would kinda explain the problem :p | 01:51 |
| M4rtinK | nothing incorrect | 01:53 |
| M4rtinK | I first looked how AGTL and company does it | 01:53 |
| M4rtinK | found that weird behaviour I described before | 01:54 |
| M4rtinK | and then finally build a modRana package that works fine :) | 01:54 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I now have a set of scripts that pulls updates from github, builds source packages for Fremantle and Harmattan and uploads them to OBS | 01:55 |
| M4rtinK | automatically :) | 01:55 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: well, it sounds like it wasn't 'packaged properly' before | 03:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's just that this seems weird | 03:05 |
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| Enforcer | http://images.anandtech.com/doci/5724/Lumia900-0171.jpg <-- 900 doesnt say nokia on the back :/ | 04:32 |
| SpeedEvil | you mean you've got a fake? | 04:34 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | SpeedEvil: lol? | 05:15 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | http://www.hackertyper.com/ | 05:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | type in a whole bunch of nonsense and hit alt 3 times | 05:43 |
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| ciacon | I found a minor bug regarding Skype + Callendar. Skype contact is providing a birthday date. Though the birthday is on the 12th and editing the profile does show this correctly (though I can't alter the skype birthday), it is entered into my calendar on the 11th and can't be edited either... an oddity... | 09:34 |
| ciacon | which brings me to the question, is there a bugtracker and if so, where? | 09:35 |
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| jonni | there is no bugzilla avail anymore. | 09:37 |
| phako | ciacon: bah. Timezones suck | 09:39 |
| ciacon | phako: had not actually considered time zones, though I'd be surprised if that contact were in a different TZ... interestingly enough I noticed this phenomena, as another of my contacts has birthday on the 11th, and that date is displayed correctly throughout the UI | 09:41 |
| jonni | atleast there is no bug open for that, so my guess would be timezone too | 09:42 |
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| phako | getting the whole time-zone/birthday handling right was rather difficult. And apparently we missed something :-/ | 10:05 |
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| ciacon | programming with time is an art. especially if you want to do it right :D | 10:16 |
| SpeedEvil | It's prone to epoch fail. | 10:17 |
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| diorahman | Just helping my friend, would you mine trying this app: http://bit.ly/HkLLwC ? | 12:03 |
| diorahman | *mind | 12:03 |
| diorahman | LOL | 12:03 |
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| diorahman | Please, please, try this app: http://bit.ly/HkLLwC :-) give us some feedback :-) | 13:03 |
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| petteri | what app is that | 13:22 |
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| diorahman | petteri: An Unofficial TEDTalks Client for N9 | 13:34 |
| petteri | ok | 13:35 |
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| djszapi | Hey! Any qmake master thingie in here ? | 14:13 |
| macmaN | where can i get telnet or nc or socat for harmattan | 14:21 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Can someone help with app packaging? | 14:31 |
| petteri | qtsdk will do it for you | 14:31 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | My app doesn't use qt | 14:32 |
| MFaro-Tusino | it is a python script | 14:32 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I just need the deb to extract the files to given folders | 14:33 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i have a tar.bz2 with a DEBIAN folder and the directories the app is to be installed to | 14:34 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I can package the app, install, but install doesn't run correctly, so i concluded the packaging is failing somewhere | 14:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | (birthday) dang, we've seen this in the felt 25th iteration now | 14:35 |
| petteri | MFaro-Tusino: you could make a simple app with qtsdk and compare the debian packaging | 14:35 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I know the file structure, used a empty app and package it to get the layout of debian folder and files in it etc | 14:36 |
| djszapi | MFaro-Tusino: what is the problem with install ? | 14:36 |
| MFaro-Tusino | one sec, i will get the exact output | 14:37 |
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| jaywink | MFaro-Tusino, check out pyside-assistant: MFaro-Tusino | 14:40 |
| jaywink | sorry http://wiki.meego.com/Documentation_for_pyside-assistant | 14:41 |
| jaywink | :D | 14:41 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i will thanks | 14:41 |
| MFaro-Tusino | The things is, the issues i have with the current package i made, i have fixed, but can't seem to create a package with it :/ | 14:41 |
| lizardo | MFaro-Tusino: if you are trying to install the package with the Application Manager UI (instead of dpkg -i) , you need to have "Maemo-Flags: visible" on DEBIAN/control otherwise it will reject the package | 14:42 |
| MFaro-Tusino | No, i have been using dpkg -i | 14:44 |
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| matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: you can check out CDBS: http://build-common.alioth.debian.org/ to do easy packages which just drops files in their folders | 14:46 |
| matrixx | There's some explanation here: http://matrixxreloaded.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/themes-for-harmattan-part-2-packaging-and-building/ | 14:46 |
| matrixx | the code piece in debian/rules is just two lines with CDBS | 14:47 |
| matrixx | very handy for harmattan theme packages :) | 14:47 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I was looking at that | 14:49 |
| MFaro-Tusino | tried to use the obs stuff, but scratch box failed for me so gave up on that method | 14:49 |
| matrixx | doesn't need OBS | 14:50 |
| matrixx | works also with dpkg-buildpackage | 14:50 |
| matrixx | only minus side is you have to add cdbs dependency to your package build dependencies | 14:50 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Looking into cdbs now | 14:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | thanks for the tip | 14:52 |
| matrixx | I hope it works for you :) | 14:53 |
| djszapi | ouch, cdbs... | 14:58 |
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| matrixx | djszapi: what's wrong with cdbs? | 15:00 |
| djszapi | matrixx: no control over what you do, and the boilerplate is not maintained sufficiently anymore. | 15:01 |
| matrixx | djszapi: I don't use it otherwise, only for packages which need to install some files, not build anything | 15:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | right now, anything that can compile my app works for me hahha | 15:02 |
| matrixx | I think installing files is fairly trivial without active maintenance | 15:02 |
| matrixx | so works in my case | 15:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Matrixx: Can you help me with the .dsc file | 15:04 |
| MFaro-Tusino | eg, structure etc | 15:04 |
| matrixx | I think that should be generated with buildpackage | 15:04 |
| matrixx | but, I've created one from the scratch too and I can help | 15:05 |
| djszapi | matrixx: yes, it works for installation, but I would like to stick with two different technologies, if dh also works for that case. | 15:06 |
| djszapi | would not* | 15:06 |
| matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: you can check out this as a template: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=themechanger_0.0.2.dsc&package=themechanger&project=home%3Amatrixx%3Athemechanger&rev=b552f13e402f850ce57f8037d3ab7a73 | 15:06 |
| matrixx | only replace with your data | 15:06 |
| matrixx | the other hash in the Files section is md5 | 15:07 |
| matrixx | and the numbers between hash and tarball name are file sizes | 15:08 |
| matrixx | djszapi: one day you can show me how to do the same with dh :) | 15:09 |
| djszapi | matrixx: sorry, but I am out of Harmattan and debian packaging. :) | 15:10 |
| djszapi | Although, we got our first two KDE Apps working on Android, yay \o/ | 15:10 |
| matrixx | djszapi: oh, good for you ;) | 15:10 |
| MFaro-Tusino | every time i run make make sums i gt an error so i don't have checksums :/ | 15:12 |
| matrixx | luckily there's plenty of tools to create them | 15:16 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | @Matrixx: Can I send you my source code and you tell me what needs to be fixed? | 15:29 |
| matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: I can check it out later if you haven't figured it out, now I'm just about to go have dinner | 15:29 |
| MFaro-Tusino | thats okay, enjoy your meal | 15:30 |
| matrixx | thanks | 15:30 |
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| auenf | welp, a telstra bigpond branded n9 got the PR1.2 OTA update before my 'country variant' version :/ | 15:48 |
| matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: back | 15:49 |
| matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: I can take a look now if not yet sorted out | 15:49 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | WOO | 16:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Okay, well I installed the old package, and just edited a few things manually | 16:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | It seems to work, but obviously, and end user won't edit the files | 16:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I can email you the source? | 16:03 |
| matrixx | MFaro-Tusino: sure, priv | 16:05 |
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| strank | I'm trying to find out why msyncd fails synching my caldav/owncloud calendars. syslog shows a crash because "msyncd invoked oom-killer" - does someone know a way of getting more debug info or, alternatively, of temporarily increasing the memory limits for the oom-killer? | 16:37 |
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| niqt | hi | 16:47 |
| niqt | I updated the qtsdk, now on n950 don't appears icon of development software, is a bug? | 16:47 |
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| auenf | "I have a problem with this "swipe" thing. I keep trying to do it on my Android device now :-(" | 17:21 |
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| GeneralAntilles | auenf, I try to swipe everywhere. | 17:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | iOS feels so inelegant without it. | 17:39 |
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| tehdely | same | 17:46 |
| tehdely | i keep swiping on my iPad | 17:46 |
| tehdely | and wondering why it does nothing | 17:46 |
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| Khertan | Hi all ! | 17:48 |
| Khertan | does qt-components package could be replace by one made myself ? as if i do it myself, aegis will block the process due to different source, isn't it ? | 17:50 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | anyone speculating yet on PR1.3 release date? | 18:00 |
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| Khertan | itsnotabigtruck: at least 1.3-meego version of qt-components are released :) | 18:06 |
| Khertan | so one package is ready :) | 18:06 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | Khertan: well, it's obviously close, the question though is when the whole thing is actually to be released | 18:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | a lot of packages have had 1.3 branches for a while on gitorious | 18:27 |
| Khertan | python -m 'import random;print '%s,%s,%s' % (random.randint(1,12), random.randint(1,31), random.randint(2012, 2018))' | 18:28 |
| Khertan | should give you the answer | 18:28 |
| Khertan | why not after 2018 ? because Nazi strike back from the moon | 18:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 18:29 |
| Khertan | (ironsky.net) | 18:29 |
| * Khertan want to see it !!!!! | 18:29 | |
| * Tronic already did. | 18:31 | |
| Tronic | Great movie, even if not very, ummh-- politically correct :) | 18:32 |
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| Khertan | Tronic: there is no place to see it near my home yet | 18:36 |
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| Tronic | You should contact your theater and ask for it. Apparently the cinemas are quite skeptical towards non-Hollywood movies :/ | 18:39 |
| Khertan | specially in france | 18:41 |
| Tronic | You can also DEMAND it here: http://www.ironsky.net/site/support/how-to-support/ | 18:41 |
| Khertan | already done :) | 18:41 |
| Tronic | ... but contacting an independent cinema directly might work better :) | 18:41 |
| Khertan | yeah ... just need one ... Near home :) | 18:50 |
| Khertan | there is so few independant theater in france | 18:50 |
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| Khertan | oh my god ... how developper can trust publish.ovi.com | 18:58 |
| Khertan | i didn't have the same number of sales for an apps in summary and details view ... | 18:59 |
| Khertan | for a same price, i got different revenue depending on country ? | 19:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Khertan: the pricing is based on 'tiers' that are different prices in different countries | 19:03 |
| Khertan | yeah it s 25% to 88% | 19:03 |
| Khertan | a bit high | 19:03 |
| Khertan | differences | 19:03 |
| Khertan | whoah i just understand ... | 19:07 |
| Khertan | you set a price point for a app | 19:07 |
| Khertan | so it s not the same price for everyone | 19:07 |
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| phako | ugh. are those duicontrolpanel settings things generated from XML supposed to look like shit? | 20:27 |
| itsnotabigtruck | phako: the stock control panels don't look half bad, so i assume not | 20:28 |
| phako | those aren't generated from XML | 20:29 |
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| piggz | hi..has anyone seen this problem before..when i start my app with the binary, it works ok, but when i start it with invoker, it cant find the main.qml because it seems QApplication::applicationFilePath returns /home/user instead of /opt/.../bin/ | 22:01 |
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| x29a | piggz: have you set DESTDIR in your .pro file? | 22:17 |
| x29a | or target? | 22:17 |
| piggz | x29a: thx for getting back...just fixed it though | 22:17 |
| x29a | how? | 22:18 |
| piggz | it was one of 2 things, modifying a qml file, perhaps making the cache rebuild...or, replacing the qmlapplicationviewer with one from a new clean application | 22:18 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | wow, like a month in, my usb lids finally arrived | 23:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but i still can't figure out how to remove the old one | 23:20 |
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| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Hi there, you got a question from me on #n9 :) | 23:23 |
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| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Probably you are almost the only one talking at this hour :) | 23:23 |
| javispedro | baaa. | 23:25 |
| DrGrov | Well, I put the question here then as well | 23:25 |
| DrGrov | Gotta wonder about roaming. I am travelling tomorrow to another country for one day and I am thinking that what might be the best way for me to avoid data roaming fees. Should I turn off internet connectivity completely or make sure I have disabled the roaming option? | 23:26 |
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| javispedro | it depends on the network | 23:26 |
| javispedro | in any case, not a network guy. | 23:27 |
| itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: tbh i don't know, and you already kinda got an answer | 23:27 |
| DrGrov | javispedro: Ok. I just thought that disabling roaming option would be enough. Ah, there is the option to have background connections allowed. Well, I have that turned off and then I still turn off roaming. | 23:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'd recommend deleting the data connection (apn) | 23:28 |
| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Well yes, I got an answer but it actually did not make any sense what so ever but no worries :) | 23:28 |
| javispedro | DrGrov: well, I know of at least one network that always shows up the roaming warning even when it is not roaming. not sure if a misdetection in the other direction is possible. | 23:28 |
| DrGrov | javispedro: Ah, which network is this? That sounds strange I must say. | 23:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also i don't understand why it's so dead right now | 23:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's only 8pm zulu | 23:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | this should be like prime irc time | 23:29 |
| javispedro | the party is on another channel | 23:29 |
| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Yeah, I am wondering too why the sudden silence over at #n9 | 23:30 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: #n9 is always quiet | 23:30 |
| DrGrov | Well, I will do a search for it to make sure I get it right. If not shit happens LOL | 23:30 |
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| javispedro | DrGrov: couldn't find english website, but this is the company http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepephone | 23:30 |
| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: True, it is always like a ghost town | 23:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and like what? there aren't very many parties on freenode :p | 23:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | too many stuffy people talking about stuffy subjects | 23:30 |
| javispedro | afaiu, the issue is because that operator is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator | 23:30 |
| DrGrov | javispedro: Ah ok. A Spanish one then. Here in Finland I have heard the same thing with Elisa - Saunalahti since Saunalahti is a "guest" of Elisas network but still a daughter company but it can complain about roaming. | 23:31 |
| DrGrov | If I turn off the internet connectivity in Settings on the N9, should that not be enough? I mean, it could not connect then to the internet yes? | 23:33 |
| DrGrov | Only using WLAN | 23:33 |
| javispedro | yep | 23:33 |
| javispedro | you can just put the apn icd on non-automatic connection | 23:34 |
| DrGrov | I have now the APN as a automatic connection but it does not use it unless it needs. | 23:34 |
| DrGrov | But probably better yes that I put it to a non-automatic connection the APN I am using | 23:34 |
| DrGrov | Will it automatically switch it back to automatic connection when I use it when I get back home? | 23:35 |
| javispedro | no | 23:35 |
| javispedro | but you can do it on your own without dying of exhaustion =) | 23:35 |
| DrGrov | Ok, thanks for clearing that up for me :) | 23:36 |
| DrGrov | I just wonder one last thing about this whole internet connectivity... If I turn it off and then turn it back on when I get home, will it still remember the APN and all the correct settings? | 23:36 |
| DrGrov | Or do I need to do them again from scratch? | 23:36 |
| javispedro | if you just do the disable auto-connection thing, yes, it will remember everything | 23:37 |
| javispedro | (because removing the apn will, of course, make it forget everything) | 23:38 |
| DrGrov | javispedro: Ok, thanks. I will do that then and for the safe side disable roaming. | 23:38 |
| DrGrov | I mean just turning off the internet connectivity blue button in the Settings... | 23:38 |
| javispedro | well, as you wish :) | 23:39 |
| javispedro | in any case, remember that the appereance of a 2 or 2.5G ... icon is not an indicative that you are connected to anything | 23:39 |
| DrGrov | If I turn it off the blue internet connectivity button thingie, that will still make it remember everything yes? | 23:39 |
| javispedro | yep | 23:39 |
| DrGrov | Yes, I know. It is only an indication of the network, when it is blueish and constantly blue then it transfers data | 23:40 |
| DrGrov | Good, I hate to delete the APN and restart. Good to know that disabling the internet connectivity blue button is enough. Hate to do that again from scratch | 23:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: who cares... | 23:47 |
| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Who cares about what? | 23:52 |
| kozzi_ | noodles | 23:53 |
| sahib_ | I like noodles, and care a great deal about them. | 23:54 |
| javispedro | who cares about caring about noodles? | 23:54 |
| sahib_ | Indeed. | 23:55 |
| kozzi_ | so much hate | 23:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 23:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | DrGrov: the APN thing, you seem to be going to great lengths not to delete the apn entry | 23:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | when it's like 2 lines of information that can easily be reentered | 23:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's just making a big deal out of nothing | 23:56 |
| javispedro | depending on your provider, it could be up to 6! | 23:57 |
| DrGrov | itsnotabigtruck: Well, why would I delete it? Because Nokia did it fucking impossible to enable a safe and sound way of disabling roaming and/or internet connectivity and the bloody fucker can still connect itself even if I specifically asked it not to? | 23:57 |
| DrGrov | Yes, I should wash my mouth with soap. | 23:57 |
| javispedro | DrGrov: I am not still sure if the option is "not safe" | 23:57 |
| javispedro | I mean, as said, I know of errors in one direction, but that does not mean errors in the other direction exist | 23:58 |
| DrGrov | javispedro: No problem, I will figure it out eventually | 23:58 |
| DrGrov | javispedro: :) | 23:58 |
| javispedro | just have the 10eur. ready =) | 23:58 |
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| DrGrov | Yeah, I have it in the backpocket so I can shove it in if need :) | 23:58 |
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