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befr0d | hi | 08:59 |
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djszapi | hi, so any person quite familiar with the qmake thingie ? | 11:37 |
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faenil | not very familiar, but you could try asking :) | 11:38 |
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Khertan | pa: SpeedEvil it s funny to see that autossh / imap drain less battery than exchange with zpush :) | 11:48 |
pawky | Khertan: thats odd... | 11:49 |
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Khertan | pawky: not really, this mean that imap is more optimized than exchange protocol and that autossh/ssh is well written :) | 11:55 |
djszapi | faenil: so... I have a Qt5 project add-on in which I would like to support Qt4, clear ? | 12:00 |
djszapi | I would make a qt4support folder with few private header files from upstream qt, so shall I establish a .pri file that ? I guess, and not .pro file. | 12:00 |
Khertan | question : if i set richtext in Qml TextArea (Harmattan component) which is a subset of HTML, what is the best to get only the plain text content of this TextArea, i was thinking of setting TextFormat to TextEdit.PlainText before reading text value, but this trick didn't work. Does i should get the text and parse it myself ? | 12:00 |
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faenil | djszapi, I guess so, but I can't help (was worth a try :D) but I'd like to know how that works too :) | 12:18 |
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faenil | Up to 400 Symbian developers leave Accenture.... | 12:18 |
faenil | WTH?? | 12:18 |
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SpeedEvil | http://www.yle.fi/uutiset/news/2012/04/hundreds_of_nokias_outsourced_symbian_developers_leaving_accenture_3380429.html | 12:22 |
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Khertan | not surprized | 12:26 |
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Anssi138 | where do they leave? i somehow associate word leaving with destination. | 12:33 |
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Anssi138 | oh, i forget, in Finland we have this thing called shortage of developers. | 12:34 |
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Khertan | How can i know if a lib is part of Ovi Store repository ? | 12:51 |
Tronic | Anssi138: There actually is shortage of developers. Ever tried hiring programmers? | 13:01 |
Tronic | Obviously there is no shortage of Symbian developers at this time but they cannot instantly convert into specialists on some other areas. | 13:02 |
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rigo | but conversion works pretty fast ... | 13:06 |
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djszapi | faenil: another question. How can I simply give an error during the qmake runtime, if a dependency is missing ? What is the way of doing this by using qmake ? | 13:45 |
faenil | djszapi, dunno :( XD | 13:45 |
djszapi | faenil: ... crapmake :p | 13:46 |
faenil | xD | 13:46 |
djszapi | faenil: so the developer gets this: http://paste.kde.org/450692/ | 13:48 |
djszapi | and it should already scream at the qmake runtime like the case with cmake during the cmake runtime. | 13:48 |
faenil | djszapi, xD | 13:52 |
faenil | w3ell it warns you there's something missing :) | 13:52 |
djszapi | faenil: that sucks. | 13:54 |
faenil | djszapi, going to the canteen, cya later ;) | 13:54 |
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djszapi | because it is not too talkative in certain cases according to the filename. Secondly, it would really be annoying to have an error like that at the 99% of a huge project build like kdelibs, if it can be figured out during the makefile generation time. | 13:54 |
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djszapi|windows | anybody, using Windows host thingie here ? | 14:22 |
djszapi|windows | where shall I store my ported ssh private key from Linux if I would like to execute a process which requires ssh key authentication in "cmd" ? | 14:22 |
djszapi|windows | say, git clone for instance. | 14:22 |
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Anssi138 | Tronic: No i haven't recruit but i could imagine that it is quite simple. Just throw a stone and it will eventually hit programmer that can turn caffeine to code. | 14:23 |
djszapi|windows | I have put into the C:\Users\lpapp\.ssh folder, but it is still not okay. | 14:23 |
Anssi138 | Tronic: Do you know how difficult it was to find wife that does that too :) | 14:24 |
Tronic | Haven't been very successful at finding either. | 14:30 |
gabriel9|work | sometimes it is better to find a wife who does not know anything about programming :) | 14:31 |
kevin_b | heys guys | 14:33 |
gabriel9|work | hai | 14:33 |
kevin_b | As soon as I zoom on London (in Nokia Maps) the app crashes | 14:33 |
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gabriel9|work | maybe is london buggy :P | 14:34 |
kevin_b | just after displaying the transport (bus/subway) lines | 14:34 |
gabriel9|work | sometimes i get crash too | 14:34 |
Anssi138 | it's a critical bug then. Any developpars around here? | 14:34 |
kevin_b | but for me it is each time | 14:34 |
gabriel9|work | tried restart, uninstall/install map from cashe? | 14:34 |
kevin_b | yep | 14:35 |
gabriel9|work | damn, then Prnjavor and london have something in common XD | 14:36 |
gabriel9|work | London * | 14:36 |
kevin_b | Yea it only happens on great cool places ;) | 14:37 |
gabriel9|work | Prnjavor is not so cool, but Skipovac is the best :P | 14:37 |
Anssi138 | yeah, i've been London once. great place to visit, damn expensive though | 14:38 |
kevin_b | yea damn expensive | 14:38 |
kevin_b | but worth it i'd say | 14:39 |
Anssi138 | absolutely | 14:39 |
gabriel9|work | never been in london :/ | 14:39 |
kevin_b | fortunately ppl are nice and friendly over there | 14:39 |
kevin_b | So I didn't need to rely on Nokia maps | 14:39 |
gabriel9|work | did you write feedback in maps? | 14:40 |
kevin_b | The bug trigger when the transport lines appears | 14:40 |
Anssi138 | old reinstalling might help. maybe there is some bit junk around. | 14:40 |
Anssi138 | but you tried that already.. | 14:40 |
kevin_b | pr 1.1 | 14:41 |
Anssi138 | i would go with pr12, it's much better. | 14:41 |
kevin_b | I guess it s time to try 1.2 | 14:41 |
kevin_b | yea | 14:41 |
Anssi138 | maybe there is some funkiness added in .1.2 which breaks 1.1 | 14:42 |
gabriel9|work | 1.2 is nice | 14:43 |
gabriel9|work | try it | 14:43 |
gabriel9|work | did you see that new browser with qt5? | 14:43 |
gabriel9|work | sorry, did anyone saw it? | 14:43 |
Anssi138 | haven't tried that.. is it good? | 14:43 |
gabriel9|work | i just read about it | 14:44 |
Khertan | just tryed it | 14:44 |
rigo | and? | 14:44 |
Khertan | not yet ready for end user | 14:44 |
Anssi138 | does it have potential? | 14:44 |
gabriel9|work | well all have potention when you see default browser | 14:45 |
gabriel9|work | potential * | 14:46 |
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* rigo is using opera on the N9 with sync over opera unite | 14:46 | |
Khertan | it s have potential, it s webkit qt5 | 14:46 |
Khertan | but the ui isn't ready | 14:46 |
gabriel9|work | they search for help | 14:47 |
Khertan | and most of time i got a 404 error | 14:47 |
gabriel9|work | i will check it later, if i can understand any of it i will help :) | 14:47 |
gabriel9|work | but still i can create tabed window switcher :/ | 14:48 |
gabriel9|work | can't | 14:48 |
Khertan | when i try to scroll down it s scroll up :) | 14:49 |
Khertan | and things like that ;) | 14:49 |
gabriel9|work | anyone wish to help me tonight about some basic stuff? | 14:49 |
Khertan | but could be an awesome browser | 14:49 |
gabriel9|work | i would return the fawor in helping in JS and php stuff, and some qt basic :D | 14:49 |
gabriel9|work | i was planing to create my own browser, becouse i work alot with web development | 14:50 |
Khertan | and autorotation seems not implemented yet | 14:51 |
Khertan | gabriel9|work: it s a difficult task | 14:51 |
gabriel9|work | yea | 14:51 |
rigo | tabs and rotation works in opera though | 14:51 |
Khertan | rigo: and it s closed source | 14:52 |
gabriel9|work | opera? | 14:52 |
Khertan | and sent to many things to their server | 14:52 |
rigo | oh, religion :) But its very standards compliant! | 14:52 |
pa | opera mobile rocks :) | 14:52 |
gabriel9|work | it does not matter, if they just enable extensions | 14:52 |
gabriel9|work | then you have lots of power | 14:52 |
rigo | Khertan, sends only if you have unite and other things switched on | 14:53 |
rigo | and don't mix up opera mobile with opera mini | 14:53 |
rigo | in opera mini, you mainly only get a compressed picture of a page, all rendering is done on opera servers | 14:53 |
Khertan | rigo: yes i know | 14:53 |
Khertan | A part of the licence : You shall not modify, translate, reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Software or any part thereof or otherwise attempt to derive source code or create derivative works therefrom. | 14:54 |
rigo | so what is it sending to their server? | 14:54 |
Khertan | i'm not interested by closed source software | 14:54 |
rigo | sure, you have all the right to, this is choice | 14:55 |
Khertan | rigo: url you visit for example, they claim that it s for phising protection | 14:56 |
Khertan | but i've the right to not believe them | 14:57 |
rigo | really, but you can switch that off, can't you? | 14:57 |
rigo | Settings > Preferences > Advanced > Security | 14:59 |
Khertan | maybe | 15:00 |
rigo | but I fail to find information what they do with the info | 15:02 |
rigo | from data protection law, they can only collect for malware protection. I wonder if they store that information anywhere | 15:02 |
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rigo | I will ask Karl | 15:04 |
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itsnotabigtruck | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83407 so it begins :/ | 15:41 |
itsnotabigtruck | khertan__: if it works like chrome and firefox, it periodically downloads a blacklist | 15:42 |
itsnotabigtruck | and only uploads a url if it reaches a blacklisted page (to check that it still is( | 15:42 |
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pa | itsnotabigtruck, i hope we wont start seeing the first N9s fried coz of overclocking.. | 15:49 |
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itsnotabigtruck | pa: i meant the morons misusing opensh :p | 16:01 |
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gabriel9|work | i use openssh to shut down my Arch when i'm in bed :D | 16:36 |
gabriel9|work | it's not great use but my friends don't have it :) | 16:36 |
itsnotabigtruck | gabriel9|work: what? | 16:38 |
itsnotabigtruck | openSH | 16:38 |
itsnotabigtruck | not SSH | 16:38 |
gabriel9|work | sorry, i need to go eye examine :/ | 16:39 |
gabriel9|work | and eng grammar school :D | 16:39 |
itsnotabigtruck | http://www.wikipeetia.org/OPENSH lol | 16:39 |
gabriel9|work | thanks, will check it out | 16:41 |
itsnotabigtruck | gabriel9|work: it's a joke link | 16:41 |
itsnotabigtruck | just look at it | 16:41 |
gabriel9|work | it is like i wrote it XD | 16:42 |
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Khertan_ | Segmentation fault <<< nice with python and qml only and none compiled code | 16:52 |
Khertan_ | mouarf | 16:52 |
Khertan_ | any advice on how i can debug that ? | 16:52 |
Khertan_ | tools ? | 16:52 |
Khertan_ | tips ? | 16:52 |
gabriel9|work | output to console all before crash? | 16:53 |
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itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_: gdb it and see where it crashes | 16:55 |
itsnotabigtruck | probably a pyside bug i guess | 16:55 |
itsnotabigtruck | but it's likely you're feeding it some weird input | 16:55 |
Khertan_ | itsnotabigtruck: look like more a qml one | 16:55 |
Khertan_ | :) | 16:55 |
Khertan_ | it s occur when filling too much richtext to TextArea | 16:55 |
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Khertan_ | gdb not found | 16:56 |
Khertan_ | haha | 16:56 |
Khertan_ | :) | 16:56 |
Khertan_ | itsnotabigtruck: did you know if tehre is a way to know if a lib is in the ovi store repository or not ? | 16:57 |
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itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_: easiest way is to remove any 3rd party repos you have in apt, then, apt-cache search package | 16:59 |
Khertan_ | ah so everything in nokia repo are in the ovi store repo ? | 17:00 |
Khertan_ | so it s ok :) just run the nokia one and mine :) | 17:01 |
Khertan_ | itsnotabigtruck: it was a qml bug in the parsing of too much complex html | 17:01 |
itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_: there is no ovi store repo | 17:02 |
itsnotabigtruck | but ovi apps are allowed to pull things in from the default nokia repos | 17:02 |
itsnotabigtruck | just not other repos | 17:02 |
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jonni | there is a hackery way to check, but undocumented so I'll just say dont do it :) | 17:07 |
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itsnotabigtruck | jonni: don't do what? checking what packages are "ovi-permissible" seems rather important | 17:28 |
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itsnotabigtruck | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante do people actually take that sort of position seriously? | 17:31 |
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jonni | itsnotabigtruck: I mean abusing ovi store adapter api to check it package is from ovi store url or from harmattan repo. | 17:38 |
jonni | it=if | 17:38 |
Jamison | Anyone here currently woking on hostmode? I'm interested in having a crack. | 17:38 |
itsnotabigtruck | jonni: oh, right | 17:39 |
itsnotabigtruck | though in theory the ovi store contains no library packages, and i think khertan was trying to check what he could depend on | 17:39 |
itsnotabigtruck | Jamison: doc claimed to be doing so but i think he put it in the backburner indefinitely | 17:40 |
itsnotabigtruck | be advised, doc claims it's possible to obliterate your phone if you don't reconfigure the power output correctly (don't remember the details) | 17:40 |
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itsnotabigtruck | so what do you guys think about this community council business | 17:46 |
itsnotabigtruck | jamison Khertan_ pa etc. ^ | 17:46 |
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Khertan_ | itsnotabigtruck: exactly i was checking what i could depends on ... and it s help me :) | 17:47 |
Khertan_ | itsnotabigtruck: and about council ... i 'm thinking of nominate myself | 17:48 |
Khertan_ | still thinking | 17:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | i'm still not sure what the actual purpose of it is | 17:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | it seems an awful lot like student government at a high school :p | 17:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | but if it's going to exist it should at least have good people on it, and the current ones from what i can tell seem to be pretty noncommunicative, and belligerent about harmattan | 17:49 |
Khertan_ | yeah, if i nominate myself i ll try to pacify a bit the thing and try to avoid fragmentation of the community | 17:52 |
itsnotabigtruck | but frankly i find the idea of a "community conduit for Nokia-generated information" somewhat useless | 17:52 |
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Khertan_ | i think we should most see it as a organized voices to talk to Nokia, there few people at nokia involved in this project, and having all the community in front will generate annoyance and lost of time for them ... (answering to everyone, reading all communications ...) | 17:54 |
Khertan_ | s/a/ | 17:54 |
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itsnotabigtruck | most of the stuff that ought to be done on nokia's end, they're well aware of, they just won't task people to it (esp with harmattan being mostly wound down now) or aren't interested in doing so for one reason or another | 17:54 |
Khertan_ | (esp with harmattan being mostly wound down now) <<< still rumors | 17:55 |
Khertan_ | :) | 17:55 |
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itsnotabigtruck | e.g. bugfixes needed (hardly anyone to do the bugfixes now...), outdated public sdk, stock apps not open source, etc. | 17:56 |
Jamison | INABT: hmm wonder why doc dropped it, is he here? Wouldn't mind getting a few initial pointers Yeah community council's a wank IMO, fat lot of good it's done us over the yrs (not denigrating efforts) | 17:56 |
itsnotabigtruck | i don't anticipate any of those changing | 17:56 |
itsnotabigtruck | and Khertan_: that's not exactly a rumor | 17:56 |
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itsnotabigtruck | they laid off most of the harmattan development program in feb | 17:57 |
itsnotabigtruck | pr1.3 is well known to be the last firmware release | 17:57 |
Jamison | Then again it can look good on a resume I guess :) | 17:57 |
itsnotabigtruck | presumably they'll reassign or lay off the remaining devs once it's out | 17:57 |
itsnotabigtruck | then it'll be in hibernate mode and that's it | 17:57 |
Khertan_ | like many products which are sold by company | 17:58 |
Khertan_ | i mean ... large team to release it fast, sell it, then switch most of the team to the newer products | 17:58 |
itsnotabigtruck | yeah | 17:58 |
Jamison | INABT: I'm not so sure 1.3 really is the last release, latest twitter rumours suggest there's more beyond 1.3. | 17:58 |
itsnotabigtruck | maybe they'll keep some people around to keep patching my exploits ;) | 17:58 |
Khertan_ | (i suspect also a release with qt5) | 17:59 |
itsnotabigtruck | Jamison: hm, got a link to such a tweet? | 17:59 |
Khertan_ | anyway, it s normal that they put most of the devel on other projects | 17:59 |
itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_: well, if harmattan were to be kept going long term, they'd keep people on it to keep working on the core OS and upcoming phones | 18:00 |
Khertan_ | even if all of us would like to have the perfect product ... | 18:00 |
Khertan_ | itsnotabigtruck: harmattan is one release of a product ... like fremantle was, diablo, chinook, gregale ... | 18:01 |
Khertan_ | and meltini will be (not sure about that :) < that is rumors :) ) | 18:01 |
Jamison | INABT: read Zeh's tweets from 25th onwards https://twitter.com/#!/zehjotkah | 18:02 |
itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_: well, i'm in general usinng it to refer to maemo after maemo5 | 18:02 |
itsnotabigtruck | point is, maemo/meego is being shut down | 18:03 |
Khertan_ | about maemo nothing is sure | 18:03 |
Khertan_ | meltini is another wind name | 18:03 |
Khertan_ | in the old Maemo tradition | 18:03 |
Khertan_ | harmattan wasn't really MeeGo :) | 18:03 |
Khertan_ | and we already know that meltini will have Qt support :) at least qt5 | 18:04 |
Khertan_ | maemo will revive ! | 18:04 |
Jamison | INABT: but even what zeh's hearing "sounds" like it may not be updates to the actual OS, but rather "core apps" :( | 18:04 |
itsnotabigtruck | https://twitpic.com/93k8vb did this turn out to be real | 18:05 |
itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_: meltemi is irrelevant | 18:05 |
Khertan_ | not sure | 18:05 |
Khertan_ | i must go on | 18:05 |
Khertan_ | i ve a train to take | 18:05 |
Khertan_ | we will discuss that later :) | 18:05 |
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Jamison | INABT: LOL I don't think so, but i didnt look into it closely at the time... | 18:06 |
itsnotabigtruck | ah, must have been an april fool | 18:09 |
itsnotabigtruck | the N8 thing | 18:09 |
itsnotabigtruck | not sure why i thought otherwise for a min, esp because the guy who tweeted that is definitely not a hacker :p | 18:09 |
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Khertan_n950 | waoh it s works | 18:14 |
Khertan_n950 | grr i still didn t understand why TextArea.implicitWidth didn t have the right width | 18:16 |
Khertan_n950 | so it s quite difficult to set width of flickable if i didn t found a way to found the TextArea width | 18:17 |
Khertan_n950 | itsnotabigtruck, why did you said that meltini is irrelevant ? | 18:17 |
Khertan_n950 | ~ping | 18:18 |
infobot | ~pong | 18:18 |
itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_n950: aimed at the low end, doesn't necessarily have much to do with maemo, etc. | 18:18 |
itsnotabigtruck | though, i didn't notice that it followed the wind naming theme | 18:18 |
Khertan_n950 | low end today are quite good device :) | 18:19 |
Khertan_n950 | and this can also mean optimized os with all sort of different devices :) | 18:20 |
Khertan_n950 | with/without keyboard | 18:20 |
Khertan_n950 | and also lower price | 18:20 |
Khertan_n950 | you know in linux world low priced product have better success | 18:21 |
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Khertan_n950 | train rolling underground | 18:24 |
Khertan_n950 | let see how n950 handle the network (badly probably) | 18:24 |
Khertan_n950 | ~ping | 18:24 |
infobot | ~pong | 18:24 |
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javispedro | (obviously he would drop) | 18:36 |
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rigo | gone in the tunnel | 18:49 |
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rigoN9 | irssi works but Swype Always Uses Capitals | 18:56 |
rigoN9 | irc on the phone is fun :) | 18:57 |
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Elleo | http://bit.ly/Hd1h0d <-- initial release of a statusnet client for harmattan :) | 19:04 |
Velmont | Great :-) | 19:06 |
Elleo | :) | 19:08 |
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Khertan_n950 | hello again, maybe someone have the answer why does qml TextArea implicitWidth is limited to 250px on harmattan ? | 19:11 |
javispedro | moo RST38h | 19:13 |
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Khertan_n950 | ~ping | 19:16 |
infobot | ~pong | 19:16 |
rigoN9 | Elleo: this is great news. Was Evan involved? | 19:18 |
Khertan_n950 | arf implicitwidth: plateform.defaultwidth | 19:21 |
Khertan_n950 | so it s a documentation error | 19:21 |
Elleo | rigoN9: nope, just something I hacked up quicky over the past couple of weeks | 19:21 |
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Khertan_n950 | or a component error :) | 19:21 |
rigo | Elleo: you should tell him as Evan was really actively looking into it -> desperately needed :) | 19:22 |
Elleo | ah, okay :) | 19:23 |
rigo | raaahh, posting messages is missing :-/ | 19:23 |
Elleo | yeah | 19:23 |
Elleo | it just displays stuff in the events feed for now | 19:24 |
Elleo | like I say its only a couple of weeks work | 19:24 |
rigo | do you know Evan? | 19:24 |
Elleo | not personally | 19:25 |
rigo | what is your identi.ca handle? So I can cc you ;) | 19:26 |
Elleo | @mikesheldon | 19:27 |
rigo | done | 19:29 |
Elleo | :) | 19:29 |
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rigoN9 | any idea how to switch off the keyboard in irssi | 19:46 |
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Elleo | rigoN9: have you tried fingerterm? I seem to remember that has an option to hide its custom keyboard | 19:59 |
Elleo | plus some other niceties for when using irssi | 20:00 |
Elleo | like url grabbing and some gestures for page up/down, etc. | 20:00 |
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rigoN9 | with fingerterm, there is no swype | 20:56 |
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rnovacek | hi all, I have a problem with creating custom provider for SSO (with signon-qt) | 21:27 |
rnovacek | compilation fails with: "undefined reference to `typeinfo for AuthPluginInterface'" | 21:27 |
rnovacek | source code: http://pastebin.com/s0Tb8s4u | 21:29 |
Elleo | rnovacek: sounds like you aren't linking the library, what does your .pro look like? | 21:33 |
rnovacek | Elleo: http://pastebin.com/CyHc5CXu | 21:35 |
Elleo | oh, well it looks like you've got the libsignon stuff in there | 21:35 |
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Elleo | oh hang on | 21:35 |
Elleo | signon-plugins <-- shouldn't htat be libsignon-plugins? | 21:36 |
Elleo | that* | 21:36 |
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Elleo | or possibly the libsignon-qt one should just be signon-qt | 21:37 |
Elleo | (in the PKGCONFIG line I mean, not the CONFIG one) | 21:38 |
rnovacek | Elleo: doesn't work :( | 21:39 |
rnovacek | singon-plugins -> libsignon-qt makes undefined references | 21:39 |
jonni | rnovacek: something like http://pastebin.com/6aWvA6SU ? | 21:40 |
Elleo | I mean signon-plugins -> libsignon-plugins | 21:40 |
Elleo | or libsignon-qt -> signon-qt | 21:40 |
Elleo | (not sure which is correct) | 21:41 |
rnovacek | Elleo: tried that too, no change | 21:42 |
Elleo | not sure what else could be wrong then | 21:42 |
Elleo | its not an area of the api I've really done much with | 21:43 |
Elleo | ah | 21:44 |
Elleo | rnovacek: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/307352/g-undefined-reference-to-typeinfo <-- stackoverflow to the rescue | 21:44 |
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rnovacek | Elleo: thanks, I'll check that | 21:46 |
Elleo | you've got a virtual constructor ReadItLaterPlugin() that you never implement | 21:46 |
Elleo | but instead implement the constructor ReadItLaterPlugin(QObject *parent) | 21:46 |
Elleo | oh no, my mistake, that is implemented underneath it | 21:46 |
Elleo | oh no it isn't | 21:47 |
Elleo | that's the destructor | 21:47 |
Elleo | oh, heh; but it was the destructor you declared as virtual anyway | 21:48 |
Elleo | shouldn't have taken my glasses off :P | 21:49 |
Elleo | my guess then would be that there's a virtual function in the AuthPluginInterface that you need to implement | 21:49 |
rnovacek | Elleo: there are 3 of pure virtual functions: type, mechanism and process | 21:50 |
rnovacek | and I have all of them implemented | 21:50 |
Elleo | rnovacek: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/signon-plugins/classAuthPluginInterface.html <-- lists cancel() abort() too | 21:51 |
itsnotabigtruck | :/ some idiot plugged their router into the wrong port | 21:51 |
itsnotabigtruck | = dhcp poisoned | 21:51 |
rigo | :) | 21:51 |
rnovacek | Elleo: those are reimplemented too, but it shouldn't be necessary, since those are not pure | 21:53 |
Elleo | well, I'm out of ideas then | 21:53 |
rnovacek | Elleo: thanks for your time anyway :) | 21:55 |
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Elleo | no worries, sorry I couldn't be more help | 21:55 |
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rnovacek | Elleo: you rock! | 22:02 |
rnovacek | Elleo: I have read the stackoverflow link you gave me | 22:02 |
rnovacek | and this fixes the issue: "QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -fno-rtti" | 22:02 |
Elleo | ah cool, perhaps I should have read it more closely myself ;) | 22:04 |
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itsnotabigtruck | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZXcRqFmFa8 | 22:18 |
itsnotabigtruck | lmao | 22:19 |
M4rtinK | finally found out how aegis actually works | 22:23 |
M4rtinK | you can't just run your script | 22:24 |
M4rtinK | you have to run it with the invoker | 22:24 |
M4rtinK | only then it gets all the capabilities specified in the aegis manifest | 22:25 |
M4rtinK | or launching a script that is in path, eq. cd /usr/bin; ./agtl-meego results in no capabilities | 22:26 |
M4rtinK | but just running agtl-meego assigns the capabilities | 22:27 |
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M4rtinK | also, running binaries directly works: ./cacheme4harmattan results in correct capabilities | 22:30 |
M4rtinK | </info dump> | 22:30 |
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jonni | there is difference if you run /usr/bin/script vs cd /usr/bin; ./script | 22:32 |
jonni | fullpath vs nonfull | 22:33 |
itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: hm? | 22:34 |
itsnotabigtruck | that doesn't sound right | 22:35 |
M4rtinK | itsnotabigtruck: what part ? | 22:35 |
itsnotabigtruck | you can just run your script | 22:36 |
itsnotabigtruck | and it doesn't have to be an absolute path, either | 22:36 |
itsnotabigtruck | is your script bash or python | 22:36 |
M4rtinK | it runns | 22:36 |
itsnotabigtruck | er, *sh | 22:36 |
M4rtinK | but won't get additional capabilities | 22:36 |
itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: but it will, unless you're doing something wrong | 22:36 |
itsnotabigtruck | that's my point | 22:37 |
itsnotabigtruck | back to the question, is your script a shell script or python | 22:37 |
M4rtinK | I've tested both :) | 22:37 |
M4rtinK | same result | 22:37 |
itsnotabigtruck | because if you try to run a script without a shebang line at the top, it gets run as a shell script | 22:38 |
itsnotabigtruck | and the credentials won't activate because it's not actually executing the script directly | 22:38 |
itsnotabigtruck | the script has to be +x, it has to be listed in the aegis manifest, it has to have a shebang line, and it has to be run directly (as opposed to running it through the interpreter) | 22:38 |
itsnotabigtruck | if the credentials don't activate nearly 100% of the time it's because one of those isn't the case | 22:39 |
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itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK ^ | 22:39 |
M4rtinK | the script I'm using for testing: https://github.com/webhamster/advancedcaching/blob/master/agtl-meego/agtl-meego | 22:40 |
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M4rtinK | (I'm currently packaging modRana and looking how AGTL does it) | 22:40 |
M4rtinK | the script is installed in /usr/bin | 22:41 |
M4rtinK | is listed in digisums | 22:41 |
M4rtinK | and you get: DBus error: | 22:42 |
M4rtinK | org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied | 22:42 |
M4rtinK | once you run it with ./agtl-meego | 22:42 |
itsnotabigtruck | that's...odd | 22:43 |
itsnotabigtruck | it's based on inodes, not paths | 22:44 |
itsnotabigtruck | so the credentials should activate no matter what path you use | 22:45 |
M4rtinK | yeah | 22:45 |
M4rtinK | at least its possible to use the invoker to *invoke* the needed credentials | 22:46 |
M4rtinK | as running it from PATH is not an options in Ovi | 22:46 |
M4rtinK | *option | 22:46 |
itsnotabigtruck | except that invoker shouldn't be a factor | 22:47 |
itsnotabigtruck | you should use invoker in your desktop file no matter what | 22:47 |
itsnotabigtruck | but it's not required to make credentials work | 22:47 |
ZogG_laptop | i don't use invoker in my app btw | 22:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | also, if it's not working, i fear it'll break with dev mode on | 22:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: you should :x | 22:48 |
ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: why so? | 22:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | with the single-instance flag | 22:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | because of the single-instance flag | 22:48 |
ZogG_laptop | i just didn't right aegies manifest than, maybe in next version i'll fix it | 22:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | you're not supposed to spawn multiple instances of your app | 22:48 |
itsnotabigtruck | unless there's some important reason to do so, i guess | 22:49 |
ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: if app is good it should be a lot of it | 22:49 |
ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: i'll need it for splash anyway =\ | 22:49 |
M4rtinK | lol :D | 22:49 |
itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: do aegisctl -r | 22:49 |
itsnotabigtruck | see if you can still launch your app | 22:49 |
itsnotabigtruck | did anyone watch that youtube link? | 22:50 |
ZogG_laptop | who tried nitroid | 22:51 |
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itsnotabigtruck | not i, yet at least | 22:52 |
itsnotabigtruck | it looks to be pretty alpha right now | 22:52 |
itsnotabigtruck | very cool work though | 22:53 |
ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: heard last release works with google play normally and u can install games and stuff | 22:55 |
itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: does it still render your phone inoperative if you let it idle for too long | 22:57 |
itsnotabigtruck | non-working power management is an absolute no go | 22:57 |
itsnotabigtruck | also the dual-boot arrangement is an extremely dirty hack, if i'm going to go nitdroid i'll go all the way | 22:57 |
ZogG_laptop | i think there is fix that is not released (or maybe included in last build) but there is workaround | 22:57 |
itsnotabigtruck | but atm there's still plenty to wring out of harmattan | 22:57 |
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ZogG_laptop | why elop is not on chan | 22:58 |
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ZogG_laptop | i liked quil's or whatever his name post what apps we miss | 22:58 |
ZogG_laptop | he made it and than when people pointed out obv missing apps disappeard | 22:59 |
itsnotabigtruck | quim gil? | 23:02 |
itsnotabigtruck | and, disappeared? from where | 23:03 |
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itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop ^ | 23:03 |
ZogG_laptop | yeap, i got his answer | 23:05 |
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ZogG_laptop | i wouldn't mind to change wiki if i wouldn't need to make account =) | 23:05 |
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itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: what do you mean disappeared though | 23:10 |
itsnotabigtruck | i don't understand what you mean | 23:11 |
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M4rtinK | yay, my app finally has GPS on harmattan :) | 23:31 |
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Jamison | @INABT: ZogG's's referring to this thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83333 | 23:59 |
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