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djszapihi, so any person quite familiar with the qmake thingie ?11:37
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faenilnot very familiar, but you could try asking :)11:38
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Khertanpa: SpeedEvil it s funny to see that autossh / imap drain less battery than exchange with zpush :)11:48
pawkyKhertan: thats odd...11:49
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Khertanpawky: not really, this mean that imap is more optimized than exchange protocol and that autossh/ssh is well written :)11:55
djszapifaenil: so... I have a Qt5 project add-on in which I would like to support Qt4, clear ?12:00
djszapiI would make a qt4support folder with few private header files from upstream qt, so shall I establish a .pri file that ? I guess, and not .pro file.12:00
Khertanquestion : if i set richtext in Qml TextArea (Harmattan component) which is a subset of HTML, what is the best to get only the plain text content of this TextArea, i was thinking of setting TextFormat to TextEdit.PlainText before reading text value, but this trick didn't work. Does i should get the text and parse it myself ?12:00
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faenildjszapi, I guess so, but I can't help (was worth a try :D) but I'd like to know how that works too :)12:18
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faenilUp to 400 Symbian developers leave Accenture....12:18
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Khertannot surprized12:26
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Anssi138where do they leave? i somehow associate word leaving with destination.12:33
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Anssi138oh, i forget, in Finland we have this thing called shortage of developers.12:34
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KhertanHow can i know if a lib is part of Ovi Store repository ?12:51
TronicAnssi138: There actually is shortage of developers. Ever tried hiring programmers?13:01
TronicObviously there is no shortage of Symbian developers at this time but they cannot instantly convert into specialists on some other areas.13:02
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rigobut conversion works pretty fast ...13:06
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djszapifaenil: another question. How can I simply give an error during the qmake runtime, if a dependency is missing ? What is the way of doing this by using qmake ?13:45
faenildjszapi, dunno :( XD13:45
djszapifaenil: ... crapmake :p13:46
djszapifaenil: so the developer gets this:
djszapiand it should already scream at the qmake runtime like the case with cmake during the cmake runtime.13:48
faenildjszapi, xD13:52
faenilw3ell it warns you there's something missing :)13:52
djszapifaenil: that sucks.13:54
faenildjszapi, going to the canteen, cya later ;)13:54
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djszapibecause it is not too talkative in certain cases according to the filename. Secondly, it would really be annoying to have an error like that at the 99% of a huge project build like kdelibs, if it can be figured out during the makefile generation time.13:54
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djszapi|windowsanybody, using Windows host thingie here ?14:22
djszapi|windowswhere shall I store my ported ssh private key from Linux if I would like to execute a process which requires ssh key authentication in "cmd" ?14:22
djszapi|windowssay, git clone for instance.14:22
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Anssi138Tronic: No i haven't recruit but i could imagine that it is quite simple. Just throw a stone and it will eventually hit programmer that can turn caffeine to code.14:23
djszapi|windowsI have put into the C:\Users\lpapp\.ssh folder, but it is still not okay.14:23
Anssi138Tronic: Do you know how difficult it was to find wife that does that too :)14:24
TronicHaven't been very successful at finding either.14:30
gabriel9|worksometimes it is better to find a wife who does not know anything about programming :)14:31
kevin_bheys guys14:33
kevin_bAs soon as I zoom on London (in Nokia Maps) the app crashes14:33
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gabriel9|workmaybe is london buggy :P14:34
kevin_bjust after displaying the transport (bus/subway) lines14:34
gabriel9|worksometimes i get crash too14:34
Anssi138it's a critical bug then. Any developpars around here?14:34
kevin_bbut for me it is each time14:34
gabriel9|worktried restart, uninstall/install map from cashe?14:34
gabriel9|workdamn, then Prnjavor and london have something in common XD14:36
gabriel9|workLondon *14:36
kevin_bYea it only happens on great cool places ;)14:37
gabriel9|workPrnjavor is not so cool, but Skipovac is the best :P14:37
Anssi138yeah, i've been London once. great place to visit, damn expensive though14:38
kevin_byea damn expensive14:38
kevin_bbut worth it i'd say14:39
gabriel9|worknever been in london :/14:39
kevin_bfortunately ppl are nice and friendly over there14:39
kevin_bSo I didn't need to rely on Nokia maps14:39
gabriel9|workdid you write feedback in maps?14:40
kevin_bThe bug trigger when the transport lines appears14:40
Anssi138old reinstalling might help. maybe there is some bit junk around.14:40
Anssi138but you tried that already..14:40
kevin_bpr 1.114:41
Anssi138i would go with pr12, it's much better.14:41
kevin_bI guess it s time to try 1.214:41
Anssi138maybe there is some funkiness added in .1.2 which breaks 1.114:42
gabriel9|work1.2 is nice14:43
gabriel9|worktry it14:43
gabriel9|workdid you see that new browser with qt5?14:43
gabriel9|worksorry, did anyone saw it?14:43
Anssi138haven't tried that.. is it good?14:43
gabriel9|worki just read about it14:44
Khertanjust tryed it14:44
Khertannot yet ready for end user14:44
Anssi138does it have potential?14:44
gabriel9|workwell all have potention when you see default browser14:45
gabriel9|workpotential *14:46
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* rigo is using opera on the N9 with sync over opera unite14:46
Khertanit s have potential, it s webkit qt514:46
Khertanbut the ui isn't ready14:46
gabriel9|workthey search for help14:47
Khertanand most of time i got a 404 error14:47
gabriel9|worki will check it later, if i can understand any of it i will help :)14:47
gabriel9|workbut still i can create tabed window switcher :/14:48
Khertanwhen i try to scroll down it s scroll up :)14:49
Khertanand things like that ;)14:49
gabriel9|workanyone wish to help me tonight about some basic stuff?14:49
Khertanbut could be an awesome browser14:49
gabriel9|worki would return the fawor in helping in JS and php stuff, and some qt basic :D14:49
gabriel9|worki was planing to create my own browser, becouse i work alot with web development14:50
Khertanand autorotation seems not implemented yet14:51
Khertangabriel9|work: it s a difficult task14:51
rigotabs and rotation works in opera though14:51
Khertanrigo: and it s closed source14:52
Khertanand sent to many things to their server14:52
rigooh, religion :) But its very standards compliant!14:52
paopera mobile rocks :)14:52
gabriel9|workit does not matter, if they just enable extensions14:52
gabriel9|workthen you have lots of power14:52
rigoKhertan, sends only if you have unite and other things switched on14:53
rigoand don't mix up opera mobile with opera mini14:53
rigoin opera mini, you mainly only get a compressed picture of a page, all rendering is done on opera servers14:53
Khertanrigo: yes i know14:53
KhertanA part of the licence : You shall not modify, translate, reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the Software or any part thereof or otherwise attempt to derive source code or create derivative works therefrom.14:54
rigoso what is it sending to their server?14:54
Khertani'm not interested by closed source software14:54
rigosure, you have all the right to, this is choice14:55
Khertanrigo: url you visit for example, they claim that it s for phising protection14:56
Khertanbut i've the right to not believe them14:57
rigoreally, but you can switch that off, can't you?14:57
rigoSettings > Preferences > Advanced > Security14:59
rigobut I fail to find information what they do with the info15:02
rigofrom data protection law, they can only collect for malware protection. I wonder if they store that information anywhere15:02
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rigoI will ask Karl15:04
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itsnotabigtruck so it begins :/15:41
itsnotabigtruckkhertan__: if it works like chrome and firefox, it periodically downloads a blacklist15:42
itsnotabigtruckand only uploads a url if it reaches a blacklisted page (to check that it still is(15:42
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paitsnotabigtruck, i hope we wont start seeing the first N9s fried coz of overclocking..15:49
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itsnotabigtruckpa: i meant the morons misusing opensh :p16:01
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gabriel9|worki use openssh to shut down my Arch when i'm in bed :D16:36
gabriel9|workit's not great use but my friends don't have it :)16:36
itsnotabigtruckgabriel9|work: what?16:38
itsnotabigtrucknot SSH16:38
gabriel9|worksorry, i need to go eye examine :/16:39
gabriel9|workand eng grammar school :D16:39
itsnotabigtruck lol16:39
gabriel9|workthanks, will check it out16:41
itsnotabigtruckgabriel9|work: it's a joke link16:41
itsnotabigtruckjust look at it16:41
gabriel9|workit is like i wrote it XD16:42
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Khertan_Segmentation fault <<< nice with python and qml only and none compiled code16:52
Khertan_any advice on how i can debug that ?16:52
Khertan_tools ?16:52
Khertan_tips ?16:52
gabriel9|workoutput to console all before crash?16:53
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itsnotabigtruckKhertan_: gdb it and see where it crashes16:55
itsnotabigtruckprobably a pyside bug i guess16:55
itsnotabigtruckbut it's likely you're feeding it some weird input16:55
Khertan_itsnotabigtruck: look like more a qml one16:55
Khertan_it s occur when filling too much richtext to TextArea16:55
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Khertan_gdb not found16:56
Khertan_itsnotabigtruck: did you know if tehre is a way to know if a lib is in the ovi store repository or not ?16:57
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itsnotabigtruckKhertan_: easiest way is to remove any 3rd party repos you have in apt, then, apt-cache search package16:59
Khertan_ah so everything in nokia repo are in the ovi store repo ?17:00
Khertan_so it s ok :) just run the nokia one and mine :)17:01
Khertan_itsnotabigtruck: it was a qml bug in the parsing of too much complex html17:01
itsnotabigtruckKhertan_: there is no ovi store repo17:02
itsnotabigtruckbut ovi apps are allowed to pull things in from the default nokia repos17:02
itsnotabigtruckjust not other repos17:02
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jonnithere is a hackery way to check, but undocumented so I'll just say dont do it :)17:07
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itsnotabigtruckjonni: don't do what? checking what packages are "ovi-permissible" seems rather important17:28
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itsnotabigtruck do people actually take that sort of position seriously?17:31
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jonniitsnotabigtruck: I mean abusing ovi store adapter api to check it package is from ovi store url or from harmattan repo.17:38
JamisonAnyone here currently woking on hostmode? I'm interested in having a crack.17:38
itsnotabigtruckjonni: oh, right17:39
itsnotabigtruckthough in theory the ovi store contains no library packages, and i think khertan was trying to check what he could depend on17:39
itsnotabigtruckJamison: doc claimed to be doing so but i think he put it in the backburner indefinitely17:40
itsnotabigtruckbe advised, doc claims it's possible to obliterate your phone if you don't reconfigure the power output correctly (don't remember the details)17:40
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itsnotabigtruckso what do you guys think about this community council business17:46
itsnotabigtruckjamison Khertan_ pa etc. ^17:46
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Khertan_itsnotabigtruck: exactly i was checking what i could depends on ... and it s help me :)17:47
Khertan_itsnotabigtruck: and about council ...  i 'm thinking of nominate myself17:48
Khertan_still thinking17:48
itsnotabigtrucki'm still not sure what the actual purpose of it is17:48
itsnotabigtruckit seems an awful lot like student government at a high school :p17:48
itsnotabigtruckbut if it's going to exist it should at least have good people on it, and the current ones from what i can tell seem to be pretty noncommunicative, and belligerent about harmattan17:49
Khertan_yeah, if i nominate myself i ll try to pacify a bit the thing and try to avoid fragmentation of the community17:52
itsnotabigtruckbut frankly i find the idea of a "community conduit for Nokia-generated information" somewhat useless17:52
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Khertan_i think we should most see it as a organized voices to talk to Nokia, there few people at nokia involved in this project, and having all the community in front will generate annoyance and lost of time for them ... (answering to everyone, reading all communications ...)17:54
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itsnotabigtruckmost of the stuff that ought to be done on nokia's end, they're well aware of, they just won't task people to it (esp with harmattan being mostly wound down now) or aren't interested in doing so for one reason or another17:54
Khertan_(esp with harmattan being mostly wound down now) <<< still rumors17:55
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itsnotabigtrucke.g. bugfixes needed (hardly anyone to do the bugfixes now...), outdated public sdk, stock apps not open source, etc.17:56
JamisonINABT: hmm wonder why doc dropped it, is he here? Wouldn't mind getting a few initial pointers  Yeah community council's a wank IMO, fat lot of good it's done us over the yrs (not denigrating efforts)17:56
itsnotabigtrucki don't anticipate any of those changing17:56
itsnotabigtruckand Khertan_: that's not exactly a rumor17:56
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itsnotabigtruckthey laid off most of the harmattan development program in feb17:57
itsnotabigtruckpr1.3 is well known to be the last firmware release17:57
JamisonThen again it can look good on a resume I guess :)17:57
itsnotabigtruckpresumably they'll reassign or lay off the remaining devs once it's out17:57
itsnotabigtruckthen it'll be in hibernate mode and that's it17:57
Khertan_like many products which are sold by company17:58
Khertan_i mean ... large team to release it fast, sell it, then switch most of the team to the newer products17:58
JamisonINABT: I'm not so sure 1.3 really is the last release, latest twitter rumours suggest there's more beyond 1.3.17:58
itsnotabigtruckmaybe they'll keep some people around to keep patching my exploits ;)17:58
Khertan_(i suspect also a release with qt5)17:59
itsnotabigtruckJamison: hm, got a link to such a tweet?17:59
Khertan_anyway, it s normal that they put most of the devel on other projects17:59
itsnotabigtruckKhertan_: well, if harmattan were to be kept going long term, they'd keep people on it to keep working on the core OS and upcoming phones18:00
Khertan_even if all of us would like to have the perfect product ...18:00
Khertan_itsnotabigtruck: harmattan is one release of a product ... like fremantle was, diablo, chinook, gregale ...18:01
Khertan_and meltini will be (not sure about that :)  < that is rumors :) )18:01
JamisonINABT: read Zeh's tweets from 25th onwards!/zehjotkah18:02
itsnotabigtruckKhertan_: well, i'm in general usinng it to refer to maemo after maemo518:02
itsnotabigtruckpoint is, maemo/meego is being shut down18:03
Khertan_about maemo nothing is sure18:03
Khertan_meltini is another wind name18:03
Khertan_in the old Maemo tradition18:03
Khertan_harmattan wasn't really MeeGo :)18:03
Khertan_and we already know that meltini will have Qt support :) at least qt518:04
Khertan_maemo will revive !18:04
JamisonINABT: but even what zeh's hearing "sounds" like it may not be updates to the actual OS, but rather "core apps" :(18:04
itsnotabigtruck did this turn out to be real18:05
itsnotabigtruckKhertan_: meltemi is irrelevant18:05
Khertan_not sure18:05
Khertan_i must go on18:05
Khertan_i ve a train to take18:05
Khertan_we will discuss that later :)18:05
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JamisonINABT: LOL I don't think so, but i didnt look into it closely at the time...18:06
itsnotabigtruckah, must have been an april fool18:09
itsnotabigtruckthe N8 thing18:09
itsnotabigtrucknot sure why i thought otherwise for a min, esp because the guy who tweeted that is definitely not a hacker :p18:09
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Khertan_n950waoh it s works18:14
Khertan_n950grr i still didn t understand why TextArea.implicitWidth didn t have the right width18:16
Khertan_n950so it s quite difficult to set width of flickable if i didn t found a way to found the TextArea width18:17
Khertan_n950itsnotabigtruck, why did you said that meltini is irrelevant ?18:17
itsnotabigtruckKhertan_n950: aimed at the low end, doesn't necessarily have much to do with maemo, etc.18:18
itsnotabigtruckthough, i didn't notice that it followed the wind naming theme18:18
Khertan_n950low end today are quite good device :)18:19
Khertan_n950and this can also mean optimized os with all sort of different devices :)18:20
Khertan_n950with/without keyboard18:20
Khertan_n950and also lower price18:20
Khertan_n950you know in linux world low priced product have better success18:21
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Khertan_n950train rolling underground18:24
Khertan_n950let see how n950 handle the network (badly probably)18:24
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javispedro(obviously he would drop)18:36
* RST38h moos at javispedro evilly18:48
rigogone in the tunnel18:49
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rigoN9irssi works but Swype Always Uses Capitals18:56
rigoN9irc on the phone is fun :)18:57
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Elleo <-- initial release of a statusnet client for harmattan :)19:04
VelmontGreat :-)19:06
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Khertan_n950hello again, maybe someone have the answer why does qml TextArea implicitWidth is limited to 250px on harmattan ?19:11
javispedromoo RST38h19:13
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rigoN9Elleo: this is great news. Was Evan involved?19:18
Khertan_n950arf implicitwidth: plateform.defaultwidth19:21
Khertan_n950so it s a documentation error19:21
ElleorigoN9: nope, just something I hacked up quicky over the past couple of weeks19:21
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Khertan_n950or a component error :)19:21
rigoElleo: you should tell him as Evan was really actively looking into it -> desperately needed :)19:22
Elleoah, okay :)19:23
rigoraaahh, posting messages is missing :-/19:23
Elleoit just displays stuff in the events feed for now19:24
Elleolike I say its only a couple of weeks work19:24
rigodo you know Evan?19:24
Elleonot personally19:25
rigowhat is your handle? So I can cc you ;)19:26
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rigoN9any idea how to switch off the keyboard in irssi19:46
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ElleorigoN9: have you tried fingerterm? I seem to remember that has an option to hide its custom keyboard19:59
Elleoplus some other niceties for when using irssi20:00
Elleolike url grabbing and some gestures for page up/down, etc.20:00
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rigoN9with fingerterm, there is no swype20:56
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rnovacekhi all, I have a problem with creating custom provider for SSO (with signon-qt)21:27
rnovacekcompilation fails with: "undefined reference to `typeinfo for AuthPluginInterface'"21:27
rnovaceksource code:
Elleornovacek: sounds like you aren't linking the library, what does your .pro look like?21:33
Elleooh, well it looks like you've got the libsignon stuff in there21:35
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Elleooh hang on21:35
Elleosignon-plugins <-- shouldn't htat be libsignon-plugins?21:36
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Elleoor possibly the libsignon-qt one should just be signon-qt21:37
Elleo(in the PKGCONFIG line I mean, not the CONFIG one)21:38
rnovacekElleo: doesn't work :(21:39
rnovaceksingon-plugins -> libsignon-qt makes undefined references21:39
jonnirnovacek: something like   ?21:40
ElleoI mean signon-plugins -> libsignon-plugins21:40
Elleoor libsignon-qt -> signon-qt21:40
Elleo(not sure which is correct)21:41
rnovacekElleo: tried that too, no change21:42
Elleonot sure what else could be wrong then21:42
Elleoits not an area of the api I've really done much with21:43
Elleornovacek: <-- stackoverflow to the rescue21:44
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rnovacekElleo: thanks, I'll check that21:46
Elleoyou've got a virtual constructor ReadItLaterPlugin() that you never implement21:46
Elleobut instead implement the constructor ReadItLaterPlugin(QObject *parent)21:46
Elleooh no, my mistake, that is implemented underneath it21:46
Elleooh no it isn't21:47
Elleothat's the destructor21:47
Elleooh, heh; but it was the destructor you declared as virtual anyway21:48
Elleoshouldn't have taken my glasses off :P21:49
Elleomy guess then would be that there's a virtual function in the AuthPluginInterface that you need to implement21:49
rnovacekElleo: there are 3 of pure virtual functions: type, mechanism and process21:50
rnovacekand I have all of them implemented21:50
Elleornovacek: <-- lists cancel() abort() too21:51
itsnotabigtruck:/ some idiot plugged their router into the wrong port21:51
itsnotabigtruck= dhcp poisoned21:51
rnovacekElleo: those are reimplemented too, but it shouldn't be necessary, since those are not pure21:53
Elleowell, I'm out of ideas then21:53
rnovacekElleo: thanks for your time anyway :)21:55
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Elleono worries, sorry I couldn't be more help21:55
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rnovacekElleo: you rock!22:02
rnovacekElleo: I have read the stackoverflow link you gave me22:02
rnovacekand this fixes the issue: "QMAKE_CXXFLAGS += -fno-rtti"22:02
Elleoah cool, perhaps I should have read it more closely myself ;)22:04
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M4rtinKfinally found out how aegis actually works22:23
M4rtinKyou can't just run your script22:24
M4rtinKyou have to run it with the invoker22:24
M4rtinKonly then it gets all the capabilities specified in the aegis manifest22:25
M4rtinKor launching a script that is in path, eq. cd /usr/bin; ./agtl-meego results in no capabilities22:26
M4rtinKbut just running agtl-meego assigns the capabilities22:27
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M4rtinKalso, running binaries directly works: ./cacheme4harmattan results in correct capabilities22:30
M4rtinK</info dump>22:30
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jonnithere is difference if you run /usr/bin/script vs cd /usr/bin; ./script22:32
jonnifullpath vs nonfull22:33
itsnotabigtruckM4rtinK: hm?22:34
itsnotabigtruckthat doesn't sound right22:35
M4rtinKitsnotabigtruck: what part ?22:35
itsnotabigtruckyou can just run your script22:36
itsnotabigtruckand it doesn't have to be an absolute path, either22:36
itsnotabigtruckis your script bash or python22:36
M4rtinKit runns22:36
itsnotabigtrucker, *sh22:36
M4rtinKbut won't get additional capabilities22:36
itsnotabigtruckM4rtinK: but it will, unless you're doing something wrong22:36
itsnotabigtruckthat's my point22:37
itsnotabigtruckback to the question, is your script a shell script or python22:37
M4rtinKI've tested both :)22:37
M4rtinKsame result22:37
itsnotabigtruckbecause if you try to run a script without a shebang line at the top, it gets run as a shell script22:38
itsnotabigtruckand the credentials won't activate because it's not actually executing the script directly22:38
itsnotabigtruckthe script has to be +x, it has to be listed in the aegis manifest, it has to have a shebang line, and it has to be run directly (as opposed to running it through the interpreter)22:38
itsnotabigtruckif the credentials don't activate nearly 100% of the time it's because one of those isn't the case22:39
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itsnotabigtruckM4rtinK ^22:39
M4rtinKthe script I'm using for testing:
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M4rtinK(I'm currently packaging modRana and looking how AGTL does it)22:40
M4rtinKthe script is installed in /usr/bin22:41
M4rtinKis listed in digisums22:41
M4rtinKand you get: DBus error:22:42
M4rtinKonce you run it with ./agtl-meego22:42
itsnotabigtruckit's based on inodes, not paths22:44
itsnotabigtruckso the credentials should activate no matter what path you use22:45
M4rtinKat least its possible to use the invoker to *invoke* the needed credentials22:46
M4rtinKas running it from PATH is not an options in Ovi22:46
itsnotabigtruckexcept that invoker shouldn't be a factor22:47
itsnotabigtruckyou should use invoker in your desktop file no matter what22:47
itsnotabigtruckbut it's not required to make credentials work22:47
ZogG_laptopi don't use invoker in my app btw22:48
itsnotabigtruckalso, if it's not working, i fear it'll break with dev mode on22:48
itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: you should :x22:48
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: why so?22:48
itsnotabigtruckwith the single-instance flag22:48
itsnotabigtruckbecause of the single-instance flag22:48
ZogG_laptopi just didn't right aegies manifest than, maybe in next version i'll fix it22:48
itsnotabigtruckyou're not supposed to spawn multiple instances of your app22:48
itsnotabigtruckunless there's some important reason to do so, i guess22:49
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: if app is good it should be a lot of it22:49
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: i'll need it for splash anyway =\22:49
M4rtinKlol :D22:49
itsnotabigtruckM4rtinK: do aegisctl -r22:49
itsnotabigtrucksee if you can still launch your app22:49
itsnotabigtruckdid anyone watch that youtube link?22:50
ZogG_laptopwho tried nitroid22:51
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itsnotabigtrucknot i, yet at least22:52
itsnotabigtruckit looks to be pretty alpha right now22:52
itsnotabigtruckvery cool work though22:53
ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: heard last release works with google play normally and u can install games and stuff22:55
itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: does it still render your phone inoperative if you let it idle for too long22:57
itsnotabigtrucknon-working power management is an absolute no go22:57
itsnotabigtruckalso the dual-boot arrangement is an extremely dirty hack, if i'm going to go nitdroid i'll go all the way22:57
ZogG_laptopi think there is fix that is not released (or maybe included in last build) but there is workaround22:57
itsnotabigtruckbut atm there's still plenty to wring out of harmattan22:57
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ZogG_laptopwhy elop is not on chan22:58
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ZogG_laptopi liked quil's or whatever his name post what apps we miss22:58
ZogG_laptophe made it and than when people pointed out obv missing apps disappeard22:59
itsnotabigtruckquim gil?23:02
itsnotabigtruckand, disappeared? from where23:03
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itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop ^23:03
ZogG_laptopyeap, i got his answer23:05
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ZogG_laptopi wouldn't mind to change wiki if i wouldn't need to make account =)23:05
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itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: what do you mean disappeared though23:10
itsnotabigtrucki don't understand what you mean23:11
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M4rtinKyay, my app finally has GPS on harmattan :)23:31
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Jamison@INABT: ZogG's's referring to this thread

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