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| Guest64870 | hi, i've totally screwed up the software on my nokia n9. the device tells me to update it with the nokia software updater... but i am on linux and afaik the nokia software updater is win/mac only... what is the easiest way to restore my device? | 01:15 |
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| Guest64870 | whenever i power the device on it says: "Device not working properly, Try updating the device software with Nokia Software Updater. If the problem persists, contact the neaerst Nokia Care point. Security problem (upstart): /etc/init.conf integrity failure" | 01:16 |
| gabriel9 | reflash it | 01:17 |
| gabriel9 | you can find tutorial on talk.maemo.org | 01:17 |
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| Guest64870 | gabriel9: will that void the warranty? | 01:36 |
| Guest64870 | or is that only if i would flash the open mode kernel? | 01:36 |
| gabriel9 | you can find your firmware | 01:39 |
| gabriel9 | and the use it | 01:39 |
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| gabriel9 | i think it will not void warranty | 01:39 |
| teleshoes | flashing doesnt void your warranty | 01:39 |
| teleshoes | flashing the openmode kernel DOES void your warranty, like you say | 01:40 |
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| luke-jr | teleshoes: no, it doesn't. | 01:47 |
| teleshoes | nokia claims that it does; this is different than saying that a warranty claim will fail | 01:48 |
| luke-jr | teleshoes: if they refuse to honour it on that basis, you can sue them and win. | 01:48 |
| teleshoes | there are plenty of places where it is illegal to deny a hardware repair warranty claim based on software changes | 01:49 |
| teleshoes | there are also plenty of places where it is not illegal to do so | 01:49 |
| teleshoes | the warranty nokia provides is void under whatever terms nokia specifies | 01:50 |
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| teleshoes | flashing an openkernel is against the terms of nokia's warranty, and gives you a big scary warning saying its permanently void | 01:52 |
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| AndrewX192 | Any ideas on having two network connections on the N9 at once? (eg wifi AND 3G?) | 03:53 |
| AndrewX192 | I need to use up the rest of my dataplan before I switch SIM cards, and I figured - why not upload part of this server image (multiple GB), but I'd rather not have to copy it to the device first | 03:53 |
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| bef0rd | hi ha ho | 06:54 |
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| AndrewX192 | Sigh, I know I shouldn't have put my new SIM card in the N900 | 06:57 |
| AndrewX192 | Now I'm using it more than the N9 | 06:57 |
| Enforcer | my sim doesnt fit in the n900 anymore | 06:57 |
| AndrewX192 | I haven't got the new one trimmed yet | 06:58 |
| AndrewX192 | Currently I have 2 devices with 2 phone numbers | 06:58 |
| bef0rd | same here | 07:02 |
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| psycho_oreos | Is it just me or does nokia not provide flashing harmattan under linux with tarballs? The readme on the website stated it comes out in both Debian as well as tarballs but I have not seen the tarballs for the flasher tool for harmattan. | 08:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | psycho_oreos: debs only | 08:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you could extract the deb though | 08:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | using ar (from binutils) and tar | 08:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or just use debian because it's better :p | 08:22 |
| psycho_oreos | heh I thought so, debs only. Debian maybe superior in some ways that I won't deny but there are cases where I won't agree :) | 08:23 |
| psycho_oreos | Thanks for your input | 08:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 08:23 |
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| psycho_oreos | heh no dice with either ar or tar tool, luckily there's dpkg package in the archive for my distro | 08:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | psycho_oreos: a deb is an ar archive with some tar archives inside | 08:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i think you want something like | 08:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ar x package.deb data.tar.gz | 08:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | tar xvf data.tar.gz | 08:29 |
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| psycho_oreos | `ar t' doesn't work yet `ar x' works ._. | 08:32 |
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| tbf | seems talk.maemo.org is down? | 10:06 |
| phako | tbf: it's usually in the morning | 10:07 |
| tbf | phako: odd. | 10:07 |
| phako | maybe it breaks down during the night and the guy that turns the machine on again just gets up at ~10 CET ;) | 10:09 |
| gabriel9|work | this morning it was OK | 10:14 |
| gabriel9|work | and that was one hour ago | 10:14 |
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| MohammadAG | It's Up again | 12:47 |
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| xmlich02 | i am trying to compile qml application in scratchbox. I found, that the PKGCONFIG += meegotouch-boostable is not enough it is necessary to add also PKGCONFIG += qdeclarative-boostable (i wonder, why are there two so similar packages) | 15:40 |
| jonni | other api was renamed and depraceted. | 15:44 |
| Sazpaimon | rzr, are you around? | 15:45 |
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| Khertan | Hello | 16:52 |
| RST38h | Meanwhile: HP finally decides the future of the PC: It's a printer accessory | 16:52 |
| Khertan | RST38h: hum ... so they plan to release a new device : the tablet 10" injekt scanner fax copy printer | 16:54 |
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| RST38h | Khertan: I think they are not THAT inventive | 17:02 |
| RST38h | Khertan: Just going to bundle their PCs with their printers, for free =) | 17:02 |
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| Khertan | RST38h: hum ... printer are already almost free ... they will have two option ... more expensive cardridge or ... sell drivers :) | 17:13 |
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| RST38h | Khertan: They will use expendable RAM and charge you for RAM replacement every 3 months | 17:16 |
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| pa | do you think it's possible to use FCam to stream over usb? | 17:30 |
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| MohammadAG | suppose I have tar.gz and .dsc files with no .changes file | 17:57 |
| MohammadAG | can I make a repo? | 17:57 |
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| Jeffrey04 | does anyone know how n9 automatically merge twitter contacts? | 18:11 |
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| teleshoes | anybody know how to get email not to reprompt for password while using the openkernel? | 19:17 |
| pa | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/03/brutal-truth-about-lumia-cannot-sustain-even-1-to-1-replacement-of-symbian-windows-phone-strategy-do.html | 19:19 |
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| franz` | does harmattan have an equivalent of /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-menu, for .desktop files? | 19:27 |
| teleshoes | i forget what that is | 19:27 |
| franz` | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4117 seems it isn't available for developers officially, but surely the status menu is loading what it has from somewhere | 19:28 |
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| franz` | oh, /usr/share/meegotouch/applicationextensions, found it | 19:32 |
| teleshoes | whoa thanks | 19:32 |
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| RST38h | Meanwhile: The Supreme Court issued a unanimous opinion yesterday holding that 'to transform an unpatentable law of nature into a patent-eligible application of such a law, a patent must do more than simply state the law of nature while adding the words "apply it." | 19:41 |
| teleshoes | nice | 19:42 |
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| SpeedEvil | Yay | 19:45 |
| SpeedEvil | Now if they'd only hold that a patent must be novel and unobvious. | 19:45 |
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| rhkfin | Anyone have a clue: a friend of mine has N9 and his calendar is somehow broken, complaining something about not enough space or similar. How does one handle the .calendar folder? It's owned by user calendar, can't access it with devel-su | 21:32 |
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| Saviq | hey there, trying to find a way to play videos over UPnP on the N9, any pointers? | 21:38 |
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| teleshoes | so i was poking around here for an SMS backup/restore program awhile back | 21:40 |
| teleshoes | wwwjfy just made a perfect one | 21:40 |
| teleshoes | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83166 | 21:40 |
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| teleshoes | fast, command line, human readable exports/imports | 21:41 |
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| * RST38h moos at javispedro | 21:43 | |
| javispedro | moo | 21:46 |
| javispedro | RST38h: sadly, it seems that the battery life on the galaxy note is .. deceiving | 21:49 |
| RST38h | javispedro: it should do obligatory 12 hours | 21:50 |
| RST38h | The battery there is huge | 21:50 |
| RST38h | but no, it is obviously no nokia, so do not expect it to have decent battery life =) | 21:51 |
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| javispedro | seems that in full use it is even worse than n950, according to a fellow it does not even reach 3h | 21:52 |
| RST38h | nooo waaay | 21:52 |
| RST38h | n950 does two days here | 21:52 |
| javispedro | full use, i.e. gaming, gps | 21:53 |
| RST38h | gaming = 5hrs | 21:53 |
| javispedro | that is what I get more or less with the n950 | 21:53 |
| RST38h | but, I mean, don't we already know that based on n900? | 21:53 |
| javispedro | tbh I didn't know samsung had a problem with battery lifes =) | 21:54 |
| RST38h | Android phones all have this problem | 21:54 |
| javispedro | ugh | 21:55 |
| RST38h | Comes from higher-specced hardware, unoptimized Linux kernels, and power-hungry apps | 21:55 |
| RST38h | Note is really no different than the rest | 21:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | the result of relying on wakelocks rather than proper apps that don't spin idle | 21:55 |
| RST38h | You are just coming from a system that uses low-specced SoC with highly optimized platform | 21:55 |
| RST38h | BTW, the AT&T Note (SGH-I717) looks better than the normal one (I70xx) | 21:56 |
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| javispedro | oh, this reminds me of something funny | 21:56 |
| RST38h | SGH has got four normal Android buttons. I70xx only got one ugly rectangular button a la iPhone | 21:56 |
| javispedro | when samsung launches several variants under the same name => fragmentation, sky falls | 21:57 |
| javispedro | when apple decides to so with the ipad => drooling all over the place | 21:57 |
| javispedro | *to do so | 21:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Apple is Magic | 21:58 |
| RST38h | turns people into fruits and vegetables, indeed | 21:58 |
| RST38h | also, apple's trick is not fragmentation, they are simply gonna make the previous model obsolete, forcing the faithful to shell out for the new one | 21:58 |
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| javispedro | http://nokiagadgets.com/2012/03/21/meltemi-makes-an-short-appearance-on-qt-developer-mailing-list/ | 22:00 |
| javispedro | (nothing of interest or new, though) | 22:00 |
| RST38h | javispedro: Russians claim the Note may eat up to 0.5A from its battery | 22:01 |
| javispedro | RST38h: seems small | 22:02 |
| javispedro | this guy actually said that 2 hours and a half :P | 22:02 |
| RST38h | javispedro: I doubt him | 22:03 |
| RST38h | javispedro: Probably more like 3-5hrs | 22:03 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: I am reading an extremely elaborate Note FAQ on 4PDA. Will let you know of anything specific in a moment. | 22:05 |
| javispedro | have to leave for an hour though now | 22:05 |
| javispedro | brb | 22:06 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I wish Apple hadn't been corrupted by the hipsters. | 22:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Damn them. | 22:06 |
| RST38h | 9:36 when playing video | 22:07 |
| RST38h | General, Apple *ARE* the hipsters | 22:07 |
| RST38h | The original ones | 22:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | To a certain extent | 22:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | But the old Apple at least used to help people do productive things. | 22:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | Not just sell them music videos and fashion accessories. | 22:09 |
| RST38h | well, the concept has changed | 22:09 |
| rigo | RST38h, do you have a link for the Subpreme Court argument? This really seems to be a shift | 22:10 |
| RST38h | rigo: www.google.com | 22:10 |
| RST38h | Subprime Court - nice. | 22:10 |
| rigo | thanks, found it, via /. | 22:11 |
| GeneralAntilles | SCOTUS argument? | 22:12 |
| * GeneralAntilles too lazy to check scrollback. | 22:13 | |
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| rigo | GeneralAntilles, http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/03/21/1647234/supreme-court-limits-patents-based-on-laws-of-nature?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkuser&utm_medium=feed | 22:21 |
| rigo | with a link to the PDF | 22:21 |
| rigo | the PDF is better than reading the usual troll-sink | 22:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | That's two unanimous decisions in tow days. | 22:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | Crazy | 22:21 |
| GeneralAntilles | s/tow/two | 22:21 |
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| RST38h | javispedro: 9+ hours of video playback | 22:56 |
| RST38h | javispedro: 2.5 days of usage | 22:56 |
| RST38h | these are numbers for the N7000 model, reported by real users | 22:56 |
| javispedro | hm | 23:00 |
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| javispedro | stupid qt creator correctly aligns continuations lines using spaces (as I configured it to), then dutilty proceeds to replace the spaces with tabs when saving the file (STUPID) | 23:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAHA | 23:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | nice catch | 23:23 |
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| MohammadAG | have fun | 23:26 |
| MohammadAG | deb-src http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/n9sources_repo harmattan-1.2 free | 23:27 |
| javispedro | lol, I had the same idea ( http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/harm/srcs/ ) | 23:27 |
| MohammadAG | hah | 23:27 |
| javispedro | in any case, I prefer YOU paying the bandwidth >:) | 23:27 |
| MohammadAG | heh | 23:28 |
| MohammadAG | I don't think there's a bandwidth limit | 23:28 |
| teleshoes | MohammadAG whoa thanks | 23:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | which flavour? | 23:29 |
| MohammadAG | teleshoes, you're the guy who wanted the libc6 sources right? | 23:29 |
| MohammadAG | m7 is there | 23:29 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, PR1.2 | 23:29 |
| teleshoes | yep | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | the new or the old one? | 23:29 |
| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, new afaik | 23:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | you're aware of the two versions on my server? | 23:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway, I'm out - dinner due | 23:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | overdue | 23:31 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer, nope | 23:34 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | now what we need is binary packages of all that stuff | 23:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it would be cool to have a repo with binary (normal and -dev) packages of everything in the sources release | 23:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | building it would take forever though | 23:42 |
| teleshoes | bins would be nice | 23:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it would be nicer if nokia would just release those though (which they already have) :( along with the up-to-date nokia-binaries stuff too | 23:43 |
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| MohammadAG | <itsnotabigtruck> now what we need is binary packages of all that stuff | 23:47 |
| MohammadAG | <itsnotabigtruck> it would be cool to have a repo with binary (normal and -dev) packages of everything in the sources release | 23:47 |
| MohammadAG | make me a script and I'll have that ready at some point :P | 23:47 |
| MohammadAG | got a quad core i5 at home doing nothing | 23:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: heh | 23:48 |
| rm_work | same | 23:48 |
| MohammadAG | no seriously | 23:48 |
| MohammadAG | I'll build them and upload, net's fast on that server | 23:48 |
| rm_work | there needs to be a way to connect people who have time and motivation to do this stuff, but don't have the resources, with people who have vast computing resources but no time | 23:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the main problem is sequencing, how to re-arrange the builds so that everything is built against pr1.2 packages | 23:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that won't be possible for open source packages that depend on closed source 1.2 packages | 23:49 |
| MohammadAG | well, easy | 23:49 |
| MohammadAG | oh | 23:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but it is possible for open source packages that depend on other os 1.2 packages | 23:49 |
| rm_work | I have basically unlimited storage space / bandwidth on a 100Mbit connection... and a quad-core i5 that sits idle 99% of the time | 23:50 |
| MohammadAG | build all packages, install them, then rebuild them again :P | 23:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hehe | 23:50 |
| rm_work | but no time to deal with the stuff | 23:50 |
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| MohammadAG | rm_work, a script can deal with them | 23:50 |
| rm_work | I finally got packrat updates scripted... | 23:50 |
| MohammadAG | basically it needs to apt-get every package | 23:50 |
| MohammadAG | enter the working directory | 23:50 |
| MohammadAG | run dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc | 23:51 |
| rm_work | which is why it is (hopefully) actually stable/updated now | 23:51 |
| MohammadAG | exit working directory | 23:51 |
| rm_work | although if the wiki changed, my script may have broken | 23:51 |
| rm_work | ~packrat | 23:51 |
| MohammadAG | rm -rf working directory, go to next package | 23:51 |
| infobot | from memory, packrat is a cute little rodent that keeps everything it finds. http://www.ageofikon.com/prh/ | 23:51 |
| MohammadAG | repeat | 23:51 |
| MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, think you can do that? | 23:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: that can probably be arranged | 23:52 |
| MohammadAG | have it ready by Friday :P | 23:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | :p | 23:52 |
| MohammadAG | I was being serious with a smiley face :P | 23:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the two pass build won't work if any of the 1.2 sources depend on the 1.2 versions of other packages | 23:52 |
| MohammadAG | if it fails go to next packages | 23:52 |
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| javispedro | you know, a idling quad core i5 is not necessarily a bad thing... | 23:53 |
| javispedro | idle consumption is pretty low on these things these days ;P | 23:53 |
| MohammadAG | it's off for me :p | 23:53 |
| MohammadAG | Ubuntu got borked on it | 23:53 |
| rm_work | heh | 23:53 |
| rm_work | my power bill is stupid anyways, some more building on my PC won't even dent it | 23:53 |
| javispedro | save the planet! install ubuntu! | 23:54 |
| MohammadAG | not really, PM probably sucks on ubuntu | 23:54 |
| MohammadAG | another day another sony console gets hacked | 23:54 |
| javispedro | it'll bork your computer and then you'll have to switch it off | 23:54 |
| rm_work | MohammadAG: what is it this time? I haven't been paying attention | 23:54 |
| rm_work | GeneralAntilles: how goes it | 23:54 |
| MohammadAG | rm_work, PS Vita kernel hack | 23:55 |
| rm_work | heh nice | 23:55 |
| GeneralAntilles | rm_work, tired. | 23:55 |
| rm_work | GeneralAntilles: same | 23:55 |
| rm_work | I like to actually poke people here once every month or three just to see if they're still around | 23:55 |
| rm_work | a surprising number are :P | 23:55 |
| rm_work | How active are you here these days? | 23:55 |
| javispedro | hard for Elop to get rid of the Maemo scum, seems | 23:56 |
| rm_work | yep | 23:56 |
| rm_work | we hang in there | 23:56 |
| rm_work | though not doing a whole lot these days AFAICT | 23:56 |
| rm_work | maybe i'm missing the major innovation <_< | 23:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't do shit. | 23:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so i guess the build dependencies need to be looked up and all the open source packages toposorted | 23:56 |
| rm_work | but it looks like they killed 99% of the motivation by completely killing our devices in the market <_< | 23:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | with packages that aren't in the source repo dropped | 23:56 |
| * javispedro suggest dumping them all in the OBS | 23:57 | |
| GeneralAntilles | This window is always up here, and I occasionally pay attention, but nothing actually productive. | 23:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, excepting mwkn.net | 23:57 |
| rm_work | GeneralAntilles: heh yeah. so basically what i do | 23:57 |
| rm_work | ah | 23:57 |
| rm_work | well, that's more | 23:57 |
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| GeneralAntilles | But that's 60% Jaffa, 40% fiferboy and about 10% me these days. *g* | 23:57 |
| rm_work | i can't believe there still *is* a Maemo Council | 23:57 |
| GeneralAntilles | s/Maemo Council/Maemo Community Council/ | 23:57 |
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| rm_work | tyeah | 23:58 |
| rm_work | i was being lazy <_< | 23:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Despite SD69's best efforts to make it as confusing as possible they don not own the brand. | 23:58 |
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| GeneralAntilles | s/don/do | 23:58 |
| rm_work | SD69? | 23:58 |
| javispedro | lol | 23:58 |
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| rm_work | I think i missed something :P | 23:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Goddamn the wiki is slow today. | 23:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_Council he's on that page | 23:59 |
| javispedro | funny that the last council member alive is still pretty much unknown :) | 23:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | RM Bauer | 23:59 |
| rm_work | RM!??!? | 23:59 |
| rm_work | that bastard | 23:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Well, not unknown, but mostly a Talk person. | 23:59 |
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