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| DocScrutinizer | new SDK ISO: http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2-2/ | 00:05 |
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| DocScrutinizer | many thanks to the one donating it, dunno if he wants to stay anonymous, so due credit will follow | 00:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yay | 00:08 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: have you put ad-hac through its paces? | 00:19 |
| RzR | itsnotabigtruck: what should it do to test , i am not having 3g now only wifi | 00:29 |
| RzR | i tell you tomorow if there are side effects... | 00:30 |
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| RzR | itsnotabigtruck: btw donno if you noticed but i pushed redak-0.4.0 | 00:31 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: oh cool, i'll throw it on and do an approval | 00:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: and re ad-hac it's not urgent, just do the approval soon | 00:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | remember to tick the box at the top | 00:40 |
| RzR | u mean you want me to rate it ? | 00:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: no, you don't need to rate it | 00:40 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | click the Community QA button | 00:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | tick the box at the top | 00:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | verify that everything else is correct | 00:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | then hit the button | 00:40 |
| RzR | ok | 00:40 |
| RzR | i am rebooting my phone to make sure it does | 00:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: also you should probably start bugging anyone and everyone to fill it out for your app | 00:41 |
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| RzR | itsnotabigtruck: i think there is a bug, the published by ... is not updated from previous version | 00:44 |
| RzR | 23:40 < itsnotabigtruck> click the Community QA button | 00:46 |
| RzR | where ? on the website or the app ? | 00:46 |
| RzR | ok | 00:46 |
| RzR | found it | 00:46 |
| RzR | http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Network/ad-hac/ | 00:50 |
| RzR | done | 00:52 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: yay, it's in | 00:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | thanks | 00:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i hope all those i don't know marks don't count against it...i'm not 100% sure how this process works | 00:57 |
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| RzR | itsnotabigtruck: is that process more or less restrictive than ovi ? | 01:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: well, it's just different | 01:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i know that with 6 perfect approvals you can get in, i'm not sure how the other scenarios are handled | 01:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | "Once the application receives 6 positive reviews and the quarantine period has expired, the application will automatically be moved to Apps" | 01:03 |
| RzR | you're right i thought it was only 6 rates ... | 01:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it depends on how "positive" is defined | 01:03 |
| RzR | that's what i read on the meego wiki | 01:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if "positive" means you ticked the box at the top, then it shouldn't be an issue | 01:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just need 2 more | 01:03 |
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| RzR | i need 6 http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.1/harmattan/Utilities/redak/# Community QA | 01:06 |
| RzR | because if i have read right mine does not count | 01:06 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | it might :p | 01:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i didn't review mine because it didn't seem very sporting, heh | 01:08 |
| RzR | i did just to check if it was working | 01:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's probably easier to get things that ovi would approve, approved for ovi, compared to afm | 01:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | unless you can rally a whole bunch of people to approve your app | 01:09 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | and as it stands, hardly anyone knows you can approve apps | 01:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yay, prosciutto sandwich status = ready | 01:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, i'm loading redak now | 01:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: menu > about doesn't work | 01:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | er, wait, i didn't realize it loads a text file with the about info | 01:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so it does work | 01:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | er, except: loading the about screen trashes the current file, even if it has modified contents | 01:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | unless i'm missing something that's a pretty bad bug | 01:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also, the exit button seems to also unconditionally exit immediately | 01:23 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | probably a good idea to not have that be so prominent | 01:23 |
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| RzR | itsnotabigtruck: yea missing confirm popups , I put this in my backlog | 01:26 |
| RzR | thx for testing anyway | 01:27 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | btw @everyone | 01:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | http://apps.formeego.org/staging/basecategories/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/ | 01:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if you use any of the apps in there, make sure to approve them | 01:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (e.g. waze, meecast, gpodder, musicshelf) | 01:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i haven't approved many things because there's kind of a shortage of things i'm interested in there - more people need to get submitting :( | 01:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | very few a-grade apps | 01:34 |
| Enforcer | gpodder costs on ovi store right? | 01:39 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | not sure | 01:41 |
| Enforcer | hmm, ovi store isnt working for me | 01:42 |
| Enforcer | pretty sure its the 2nd app i have installed from ovi store that now wants $ to update to newer ver | 01:42 |
| Enforcer | ok, store.ovi.com says maitenance | 01:43 |
| Enforcer | store app says network problem | 01:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Enforcer: it looks like it does cost in the store...i think the author of gpodder has been charging for his stuff there | 01:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but releasing as oss elsewhere | 01:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | sort of makes sense really, you can get it for free if you're in the know | 01:43 |
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| M4rtinK | kinda like this concept :) | 01:45 |
| Enforcer | the other app thats asking for money now i'm pretty sure isnt available elsewhere | 01:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | camerra? | 01:46 |
| diorahman | M4rtinK: what's that? | 01:46 |
| Enforcer | qad file manager maybe | 01:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, i think he made a pretty penny from that, it was popular in the ovi store for a while i think | 01:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | nah, all the qad stuff is someone else | 01:46 |
| Enforcer | yup | 01:46 |
| Enforcer | knew it wasnt by thp | 01:46 |
| M4rtinK | free from Apps for MeeGo (thus promoting it) & cost some trivial amount in Ovi :) | 01:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw M4rtinK Enforcer diorahman: any chance you guys could load up ad-hac, make sure it doesn't implode your n9/50, and approve it in afm? | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | would be also interesting to compare download statistics for a free vs paid application | 01:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if you have time | 01:47 |
| M4rtinK | I'm not in US | 01:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ad-hac isn't so useful if you're outside the US but you can still verify it doesn't have side effects | 01:48 |
| M4rtinK | so I'm not sure that I can reasonably test it :) | 01:48 |
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| M4rtinK | ok then :) | 01:48 |
| Enforcer | which PR does ad-hac need? | 01:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: well, i'm pretty sure more than 6 people have successfully used it in the US | 01:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | this is just a formality to make it over the 6 tester threshold on afm, because it seems like no one enters qa approvals on their own | 01:49 |
| M4rtinK | and you can test the Mieru version testing & fill in the testing report :) | 01:49 |
| diorahman | I'm not in the US either, but it seems cool | 01:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | heh, why not | 01:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm not an anime guy but i'll check it out | 01:49 |
| M4rtinK | :D | 01:50 |
| M4rtinK | should work with any images :) | 01:50 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | er, s/anime/manga/ | 01:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: on the next update make sure to get rid of that dangling "support for" in the desc | 01:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also consider adding a package-manager icon (64x64 icon in the apps list) | 01:53 |
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| M4rtinK | itsnotabigtruck: you mean "support for automatic previous/next chapter loading" ? | 01:54 |
| M4rtinK | or somewhere else ? | 01:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: right at the top, after the short description | 01:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | https://crypty.ch/p/PMESpcnp#35f9f65ed7ac13a8f288d42f31c31326 | 01:55 |
| M4rtinK | you don't have an app manager icon with 2.2.3 ? | 01:56 |
| M4rtinK | I have it with 2.2.29 - must have changed something :) | 01:57 |
| Enforcer | err, 2.2.3 would be older than 2.2.29 | 01:57 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, I did quite a few "builds" due to transition from pysisde asistant to sdist_maemo & Ovi tweaks | 01:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: oh, the version in afm is out of date? republish it before anything else | 01:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | republishing will reset the approvals so don't solicit approvals if you're planning on swapping it out | 01:59 |
| M4rtinK | well, there are non so far :D | 01:59 |
| itsnotabigtruck | right, but i was preparing to add one :p | 01:59 |
| M4rtinK | oh, there are | 01:59 |
| M4rtinK | hmm | 02:00 |
| M4rtinK | what now :D | 02:00 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ah yeah, there's 2 | 02:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | eh, just republish anyway and get more approvals | 02:01 |
| M4rtinK | OK | 02:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also some of the ui text doesn't appear to be in nokia pure (or the same nokia pure variant everything else uses?) | 02:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | has that been changed since the afm version? | 02:02 |
| M4rtinK | I've also remembered what other issue I have fixed in the build after 2.2.3 | 02:02 |
| M4rtinK | it now has proper single instance behaviour | 02:02 |
| M4rtinK | quite important I would say | 02:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ah yeah, i was just about to mention that | 02:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, well anyway, just say when it's updated in afm | 02:03 |
| M4rtinK | OK | 02:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and put in that ad-hac approval! :p only 2 to go | 02:03 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, where exactly should I look for the dangling "support for" ? | 02:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: debian/control but you may have fixed that between the current version and what i downloaded | 02:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | check the cryptych link above | 02:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | look immediately below Description: | 02:05 |
| itsnotabigtruck | most of the stuff in there is copied directly out of your debian/control file so it should be easy to find | 02:06 |
| M4rtinK | its fixed in 2.2.29 | 02:08 |
| M4rtinK | eq I see it in 2.2.3 but not in 2.2.29 :) | 02:08 |
| M4rtinK | btw, your app installed fine | 02:08 |
| M4rtinK | but I don't see it anywhere :) | 02:09 |
| M4rtinK | is it just some background tweak ? :) | 02:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: that's the point - it operates transparently | 02:09 |
| javispedro | hm | 02:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's actually just a config file and some postinst/postrm hooks | 02:09 |
| javispedro | so I was wrong with d-bus ignoring cred checks when in open mode | 02:09 |
| M4rtinK | no need to clutter the app screen then :) | 02:09 |
| M4rtinK | does it need openmode ? | 02:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: if that's @me, nope | 02:10 |
| javispedro | seems that it does check creds, dunno why (doing something else atm and triggered an access denied error) | 02:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | though if d-bus ignores cred checks in open mode it won't work | 02:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because ad-hac actually works by using dbus aegis policy | 02:11 |
| M4rtinK | starting the hotspot app now | 02:11 |
| javispedro | the default is actually to allow any access | 02:11 |
| javispedro | so if you want to get it to be pretty open just deleting all of the aegis generated policy snippets in /etc/dbus/*.d should work | 02:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | dbus config is a pain in the back | 02:12 |
| javispedro | (note: not _all_ of them are aegis generated, and you'll probably break something if you delete those) | 02:13 |
| javispedro | either way, I moved the positioningd one out of the way and now my nfs binaries can make calls to t | 02:13 |
| javispedro | *to it | 02:13 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: you could just assert the proper credentials | 02:15 |
| M4rtinK | works OK with ad-hac installed | 02:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | either via opensh/aegis-exec or a manifest or whatever | 02:15 |
| beford | hi | 02:15 |
| javispedro | itsnotabigtruck: "unprotecting" positioningd is much easier and permanent =) | 02:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | javispedro: but the aegis-aware way is more proper, works on inception, etc. | 02:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and being aegis-aware is rarely that difficult | 02:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | YAWN | 02:17 |
| M4rtinK | hotspot still works after uninstalling Ad-hac :) | 02:17 |
| javispedro | being aegis aware is _imposible_ when I'm throwing random binaries via NFS | 02:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: yay | 02:17 |
| M4rtinK | itsnotabigtruck: feedback sent :) | 02:22 |
| M4rtinK | also, the Mieru package has been updated :) | 02:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: awesome, thanks | 02:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's 5 out of 6 | 02:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and is it building or is it actually in | 02:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | looks like it's in as of 8 mins ago | 02:24 |
| itsnotabigtruck | erm, it isn't actually published in the repo yet though, guess i need to wait | 02:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hm, it seems that the deb is published, but Packages hasn't been updated yet | 02:26 |
| M4rtinK | at least in the web UI it shows the correct version | 02:27 |
| M4rtinK | I think I found a bug in the Apps client | 02:28 |
| M4rtinK | search for ad-hac, click on the first result, shows OK | 02:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: yeah, it's in as of a few mins ago, i didn't realize it wouldn't show up in the updates list on my phone because i forgot i uninstalled mieru already | 02:28 |
| M4rtinK | search for Mieru, click on the first result, shows ad-hac :) | 02:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | installing new version now... | 02:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | haha | 02:29 |
| javispedro | grr there is some town in spain called "garray" and of course google loves to put anything about it first because it figures out (geoip) that I'd like to know more about that town than GLib's GArray | 02:31 |
| M4rtinK | for some reason doesn't seem to happen for other searches :) | 02:31 |
| javispedro | (no offense to garray people =) ) | 02:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: just fyi i'm not sure if the description (in the current version) would be formatted correctly according to debian guidelines | 02:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | two space prefix = <pre> type behavior, afaict | 02:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not sure how line breaks are handled | 02:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but two space lines are supposed to be never wrapped | 02:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anyway, looks like it's fully compliant so just a moment... | 02:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also, lol javispedro | 02:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: approved | 02:37 |
| M4rtinK | thanks ! :) | 02:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | beford: hey beford | 02:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | any chance you could install http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Network/ad-hac/ verify it doesn't implode your phone, and approve it? | 02:38 |
| beford | i could | 02:40 |
| M4rtinK | itsnotabigtruck: what description layout do you use ? | 02:42 |
| M4rtinK | the plan debian one ? | 02:42 |
| M4rtinK | *plain | 02:42 |
| M4rtinK | eq. Description: short_description | 02:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | beford: there's one approval between ad-hac and promotion to main, so it would be really awesome :) | 02:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | to approve, just log into a meego.com account, click community qa, tick the box at the top, make sure everything in the form is correct, and hit submit | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: i'm doing | 02:44 |
| beford | i could but | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Description: short description | 02:44 |
| beford | i just did | 02:44 |
| beford | : | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | long description | 02:44 |
| beford | p | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | beford: haha, indeed | 02:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | thanks | 02:45 |
| beford | was testing the new poc for RDP flaw, crashed my vm :D | 02:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: anyway, that got mangled, point is - short description right after Description:, then long description, in prose format (not bullet points), indented with exactly one space | 02:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | for paragraph breaks, a full stop (.) indented with one space | 02:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | line breaks inside paragraphs are ignored | 02:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | note that neither the afm website nor the client actually do the proper processing of debian descriptions, they just spit out the raw text | 02:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so what's conformant with the debian spec, isn't what looks pretty on afm | 02:46 |
| M4rtinK | hmm | 02:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | bullet points are probably ok but i'm not sure what the correct way is to make them look pretty | 02:47 |
| M4rtinK | it seems app manager takes the first nonempty line and and takes it as the short description | 02:47 |
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| M4rtinK | and (correctly) interprets two spaces as a new line | 02:48 |
| itsnotabigtruck | wtf?!?!?!?!?!?!!?! | 02:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | appsformeego just promoted version 0.1 instead of version 1.0 | 02:50 |
| beford | sh*t happens | 02:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which has an ugly icon/screenshot that didn't end up looking the way i'd hoped | 02:51 |
| M4rtinK | wow, that's pretty bad :) | 02:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (the actual payload is the same, but i'd rather it look nice on the site too) | 02:52 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, if you want to force an order to the screenshots | 02:53 |
| M4rtinK | just name them alphabetically :) | 02:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/revisions?package=ad-hac&project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3AHarmattan%3AApps | 02:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | this is very strange | 02:53 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it promoted 1.0, then it immediately afterwards promoted 0.1 over it | 02:54 |
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| M4rtinK | lets see what actually shows up in stable :) | 02:55 |
| M4rtinK | interesting that 0.1 even got retained somehow | 02:56 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, anybody else willing to test Mieru, the manga & comic book reader ? :) | 02:57 |
| beford | no | 02:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 02:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just PM'd x-fade, hopefully he'll have some time to look into it tomorrow | 02:59 |
| beford | just link us M4rtinK | 02:59 |
| beford | my n9 is finishing charge | 02:59 |
| beford | not sure wth happened today, I was in class using 3g and it drained the batery really fast... just like 2 hours | 03:00 |
| itsnotabigtruck | beford: http://repo-origin.apps.formeego.org/harmattan/apps-testing/armel/mieru_2.2.29_armel.deb | 03:01 |
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| M4rtinK | or the package page: http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Graphics/mieru/ | 03:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: it already showed up in stable, as 0.1 | 03:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the problem seems to be with the auto-promotion bot | 03:02 |
| M4rtinK | is there some bugtracker for AFM ? | 03:02 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | no clue | 03:02 |
| beford | http://store.ovi.com/ hehe nice image | 03:04 |
| M4rtinK | lol, the maintenance blog is also under maintenance :) | 03:05 |
| beford | maintenanception | 03:06 |
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| merlin1991 | I have a problem with installing a .deb after downloading it, I've compiled openrdate into a nice package (including an aegis manifest) that installs nicely from the commandline via dpkg -i | 03:18 |
| merlin1991 | but if I download it with the brower and open it the device reports invalid package | 03:19 |
| merlin1991 | deb can be found here: http://188.40.39.11/~christian/harmattan/openrdate_1.2-1_armel.deb | 03:19 |
| merlin1991 | any ideas? | 03:19 |
| M4rtinK | try to download it with browser | 03:19 |
| M4rtinK | and install it with dpkg | 03:19 |
| M4rtinK | to check if the browser is not somehow corrupting it ? | 03:19 |
| merlin1991 | that works aswell | 03:19 |
| M4rtinK | maybe the version number ? | 03:20 |
| merlin1991 | I've purged the package before trying to install it via browser | 03:21 |
| M4rtinK | Ovi prescribes just 3 numbers separated by . | 03:21 |
| M4rtinK | maybe the browser checks that ? | 03:21 |
| merlin1991 | worth a shot | 03:21 |
| merlin1991 | as far as I understand it pkgmrgd rejects the package | 03:22 |
| merlin1991 | now if I'd know why :/ | 03:22 |
| merlin1991 | M4rtinK: got a link to the ovi regulations about version numbers? | 03:23 |
| M4rtinK | also got an error from browser installation | 03:24 |
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| M4rtinK | merlin1991: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library//html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Publishing_Meeting_Nokia_Store_entry_requirements.html | 03:26 |
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| M4rtinK | and there is also a 5O page PDF i discovered just now: https://www.developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/44affcd1-ceba-4aca-8b65-670ce2cbbd1e/MeeGo_1_2_Harmattan_Applications_Ovi_Store_Entry_Requirements.html :P | 03:27 |
| merlin1991 | holy shit 50 pags :D | 03:27 |
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| M4rtinK | actually looks quite interesting :D | 03:28 |
| M4rtinK | regarding numbering, basically this: [major-#].[minor-#].[micro-#] is used, where [major-#] is mandatory. #.#.# or #.# or #, where # is string | 03:29 |
| M4rtinK | {0–9}, <50 characters. | 03:29 |
| M4rtinK | 50 decimal places, interesting :) | 03:30 |
| M4rtinK | that should handle Chrome for quite a while :) | 03:30 |
| M4rtinK | well, its not actually decimal places, but still :) | 03:31 |
| merlin1991 | hm new version number and a lil sanitized packaging, lets see | 03:32 |
| merlin1991 | still not working though | 03:33 |
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| M4rtinK | can't the packaging daemon be somehow invoked from CLI ? | 03:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | M4rtinK: yes | 03:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | pkgmgr install-file -f foo.deb | 03:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | merlin1991: try using that | 03:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also if the problem is with downloading the package, make sure it's being served with the right mime type | 03:35 |
| merlin1991 | is it going to tell my why? | 03:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | application/x-deb | 03:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | merlin1991: it might, the debug output isn't so hot but try it anyway | 03:36 |
| merlin1991 | comes as application/x-deb as far as I can tell | 03:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also what happened to your download | 03:36 |
| merlin1991 | ovi compliant version number --> new package | 03:36 |
| merlin1991 | though that one is broken currently | 03:36 |
| merlin1991 | build left out the binary for some reason o_O | 03:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 03:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also, ovi allows the package revision field | 03:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but you shouldn't have a package revision if your package doesn't have an upstream | 03:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so you can either do | 03:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | x.y.z-w | 03:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or x.y.z | 03:37 |
| merlin1991 | it has an upstream :D | 03:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, then include the package revision | 03:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | making it 1.2.0-1 | 03:38 |
| merlin1991 | upstream saw no update in 4 years though xD | 03:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | then the version should be forever stuck at 1.2.0, but you can keep incrementing the package revision | 03:38 |
| merlin1991 | but currently I'm scratching my head why debhelper started to ignore the configure script | 03:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also add a plus component before the package revision | 03:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | though...does ovi allow that stuff | 03:39 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | in theory your package would become something like openrdate_1.2.0+merlin6-3 | 03:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | long paste incoming | 03:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | The package file name must include the application name followed by a three-digit version number, for example, myapplication_1.0.1.deb. The name must start with an alphanumeric character, letters must be lower case only, and the version number must be separated by periods. Only the following characters are allowed: (0-9), (+), (-) (.), and (_). | 03:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | my interpretation of that is: anything goes as long as it's a valid debian version AND starts with 3 numeric components | 03:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | merlin1991: got it figured out? | 03:49 |
| merlin1991 | currently fighting against debhelper | 03:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also...you're submitting a time daemon to ovi? | 03:49 |
| merlin1991 | no rdate is just a fire and forget ntp / some other protocol client | 03:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, that's what i mean by a time daemon | 03:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's not really a "user application" | 03:50 |
| merlin1991 | well this one is not running in the bg | 03:50 |
| merlin1991 | you run it to sync the clock and then you let it drift again :D | 03:50 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | oh, i thought by fire and forget you mean it keeps running | 03:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | more like one-shot | 03:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | why would that be desirable? weird :p | 03:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also gsm time sync seems to work ok | 03:51 |
| merlin1991 | not with my operator | 03:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | heh | 03:51 |
| merlin1991 | does not send the data fsckd thing | 03:52 |
| merlin1991 | well my main use is to set the clock after having reflashed | 03:52 |
| merlin1991 | :) | 03:52 |
| merlin1991 | why can't dh_auto_configure call autoreconf by itself :/ | 03:54 |
| merlin1991 | that's the reason I had no binary anymore, I purged all the generated files from the git history since they don't belong there and suddenly the build process didn't have a configure and therefore ignored the binary part :D | 03:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | merlin1991: add override_dh_auto_configure | 03:56 |
| merlin1991 | I did | 03:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and have it do autoreconf, then dh_auto_configure | 03:56 |
| merlin1991 | that's what I did | 03:56 |
| merlin1991 | :D | 03:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh ok :D | 03:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anyway, since this isn't a huge project, i'd suggest going with the x.y.z-w numbering | 03:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | without the +merlin stuff | 03:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which would only be if you touched the upstream source beyond what's in the .debian.tar.gz | 03:57 |
| merlin1991 | hm my webserver feeds it as application/x-debian-package | 04:01 |
| merlin1991 | Error: Package 'openrdate' version '1.2.0-1' is not user package | 04:02 |
| merlin1991 | section error maybe? | 04:02 |
| merlin1991 | currently it has no section set :D | 04:02 |
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| merlin1991 | damn can't find the sections list | 04:03 |
| merlin1991 | silly dev-library is impossible to use | 04:04 |
| merlin1991 | especially since the packaging info is spread over several independend pages | 04:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | merlin1991: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Apps/Packaging#Harmattan_categories | 04:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | user/utilities i guess | 04:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you have to use one of those or you can't submit to AFM | 04:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ovi doesn't care as long as it starts with user | 04:04 |
| merlin1991 | I remember there was a page in the dev library that described the avaiaible sections | 04:07 |
| merlin1991 | yep a proper section of user/utilities did the trick | 04:08 |
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| merlin1991 | itsnotabigtruck: another question though, apart from all the *.in and *.m4 files what else can I purge from the source that gets generated by autoreconf? | 04:11 |
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| merlin1991 | okay if anyone is interested, working package can be found here: http://188.40.39.11/~christian/harmattan/openrdate/openrdate_1.2.0-1_armel.deb | 04:23 |
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| AndrewX192 | itsnotabigtruck: why does root $PATH not include /sbin? | 04:36 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | AndrewX192: not really sure | 04:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it depends on whether you ssh or use meego terminal | 04:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | merlin1991: not sure...and i think debian source packages are usually shipped already autoconffed | 04:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and merlin1991: i thought the in and m4 files are exactly what you have to keep | 04:39 |
| merlin1991 | it's am -> in and m4 -> next steps | 04:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ah | 04:41 |
| merlin1991 | though m4 wise I only know about aclocal getting generated | 04:41 |
| merlin1991 | other files you have to keep afaik | 04:41 |
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| AndrewX192 | itsnotabigtruck: hm, yes. I'd like to fix the meego terminal if possible | 04:46 |
| AndrewX192 | itsnotabigtruck: meego terminal uses the user "user", whereas SSH uses the "developer" user | 04:47 |
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| lucido | upstart stop stopped working: stop: Name "com.ubuntu.Upstart" does not exist | 08:42 |
| lucido | on: /usr/bin/aegis-exec -s -u user /sbin/stop apps/digimedaemon | 08:42 |
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| djszapi | lucido: why would you use it that way ? | 09:11 |
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| djszapi | does this library make sense on harmattan ? http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libxcursor1 perhaps in usb host mode, or not even that ? | 10:16 |
| djszapi | SpeedEvil for instance ^ | 10:17 |
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| djszapi | Hi! If I have this inside the Image element: visible: gallowsSeriesCounter == 0 ? false : true; and I set it to false explicitely at some point in the program. What is the expected result in the program after that: 1) always false 2) back to true once the gallowsSeriesCounter changes and not to zero ? | 10:59 |
| lucido | djszapi, actually I use it as "/sbin/stop apps/digimedaemon" in my prerm script to stop it before uninstall, is that wrong? | 11:01 |
| phako | djszapi: always false. Explicit assingment removes bindings | 11:02 |
| djszapi | phako: yeah, got the answer on #qt-qml already, but thanks :) | 11:02 |
| djszapi | lucido: nah, it is ok...but that is not what you said above... | 11:03 |
| lucido | djszapi, `seems to work alright if I run it via apt-get remove digime from devel-su shell | 11:05 |
| djszapi | yes, you do not need the aegis-exec stuff for that | 11:06 |
| djszapi | that was a mistake. | 11:06 |
| djszapi | also, to be precise, you do not need the whole path for stop | 11:06 |
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| djszapi | phako: interesting I cannot bind like this: property boolean gallowsSeriesImageVisible: gallowsSeriesCounter == 0 ? false : true; | 11:18 |
| djszapi | ohh it is "bool". | 11:19 |
| djszapi | :) | 11:19 |
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| Anssi138 | i think it should cast it properly or just !!gallowsSeriesCounter | 11:21 |
| matrixx | Anssi138: the problem was the definition of the property, it's type bool, not boolean :) | 11:22 |
| Anssi138 | matrixx: thanks darling. :) | 11:22 |
| matrixx | you're welcome :) | 11:23 |
| djszapi | Anssi138: true, but I like being explicite. I do not know verbosity is my style. :) | 11:24 |
| Anssi138 | y | 11:26 |
| djszapi | mmh...the binding can only be done at the initialization, and not later ? | 11:28 |
| djszapi | gallowsSeriesImage.visible = gallowsSeriesImageVisible; -> I tried to put it back after setting the visibility to false, but apparently it remains whatever gallowsSeriesImageVisible is at the time of the assignment, no matter that changes later. | 11:29 |
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| djszapi | perhaps I shall use PropertyChanges ? | 11:32 |
| alterego | Anyone know if there's any frameworks for setting alarms? | 11:33 |
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| alterego | Well, I want to have an alarm that can invoke a process. | 11:33 |
| Leeks912 | Hello. Could someone advise me? I'm developing a qt/qml app and I would like the volume keys to adjust the system volume. Currently when I press them they adjust the profiles. | 11:35 |
| alterego | Leeks912: somewhere around here is what you're looking for: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Selecting_the_resource_application_class.html | 11:37 |
| djszapi | Leeks912: I use something like this: [stream] | 11:39 |
| djszapi | exe = khangman-harmattan | 11:39 |
| djszapi | group = game | 11:39 |
| djszapi | Leeks912: check out the groups and adopt it. | 11:39 |
| djszapi | oopsie, sorry, this is different... | 11:40 |
| ieatlint | hmmm, less than a day until it's time to start binge drinking | 11:41 |
| alterego | In fremantle you used to have to set an X11 property, I wonder if it's done in a similar fashion on Harmattan. | 11:41 |
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| djszapi | alterego, Leeks912: On Harmattan they decided to have the profile switch as default action for those keys. The adjustment is done by sysuid's volume indicator. If you want to enable media volume changing (there's no "system volume") for the HW keys, you can classify your application as a game. | 11:45 |
| djszapi | You can achieve that by adding a file in your package, with the classification, and put it to /usr/share/policy/etc/syspart.conf.d/yourappname.conf with content: [classify gaming] /opt/yourappname/bin/yourappbinaryname | 11:45 |
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| djszapi | Alternatively you can use policy awareness, it will enable the media volume always for players and games that use libresource/libresourceqt. | 11:46 |
| djszapi | Although this extra file to Debian package will do the same for policy-unaware applications. | 11:46 |
| djszapi | We did try to convince the UI designers to have media volume as default action for unclassified applications, but they did want it like it is at the moment. | 11:47 |
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| djszapi | This media volume meaningly is the volume property for streams classified as x-maemo. | 11:48 |
| alterego | Yeah | 11:50 |
| alterego | That's mostly documented in the link I posted on qtresource | 11:50 |
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| Khertan | Morning | 11:55 |
| alterego | Jaffa: ping | 11:55 |
| Leeks912 | thanks for the advice. I guess the next step is to find out how to add that conf file into the package | 11:56 |
| Khertan | alterego: 100% packet lost | 11:56 |
| alterego | :) | 11:56 |
| Khertan | i ve some question about qml ... | 11:56 |
| alterego | Shoot | 11:56 |
| djszapi | Leeks912: I have a working example. | 11:56 |
| Khertan | how to restrain the size of a label | 11:56 |
| Khertan | to one line | 11:56 |
| Khertan | even if text is longer ? | 11:57 |
| alterego | You want to use elide | 11:57 |
| djszapi | exactly. | 11:57 |
| Khertan | elide ... huM ... let see documentation | 11:57 |
| Khertan | thx | 11:57 |
| alterego | np | 11:57 |
| djszapi | that is what faenil asked last time too | 11:57 |
| alterego | It's quite a common query isn't it :) | 11:57 |
| Khertan | Question 2 : i know that FolderModel (the folderlistmodel the labs plugin) return folder path as file:///wonderfull/folder | 11:58 |
| Khertan | how can i extract the path ? (/wonderfull/folder) as it s a string and not an qurl i can't use .path() method | 11:58 |
| Leeks912 | djszapi: what kind of an example? | 11:59 |
| djszapi | for the packaing. | 12:00 |
| djszapi | packaging* | 12:00 |
| lucido | what additional debian/control fields are used in harmattan? | 12:00 |
| djszapi | lucido: see the packaging documentation about harmattan on the sdk page. | 12:01 |
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| alterego | Khertan: I'd just use the string replace function and replace 'file://' with '' | 12:01 |
| djszapi | not all, but most of them should be documented. | 12:01 |
| Khertan | alterego: yeah it s a solution ;) | 12:01 |
| Khertan | alterego: it s more a workarround :) | 12:01 |
| lucido | djszapi, the documentation is missing: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Harmattan:Developer_Library/Reference_documentation/Harmattan_Appendix_to_the_Debian_Policy_Manual | 12:02 |
| Leeks912 | djszapi: can I take a look? | 12:02 |
| alterego | Khertan: well, like you said, there isn't any file path tools in QML/Javascript ;) | 12:02 |
| Khertan | alterego: i didn't say there is any ... just that i know any :) | 12:03 |
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| * Khertan really hate canonical unity | 12:04 | |
| * djszapi is at the Mer SDK meeting, but .... | 12:06 | |
| djszapi | lucido: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Reference_documentation_Harmattan_Appendix_to_the_Debian_Policy_Manual.html You looked at the wrong document. | 12:06 |
| djszapi | Leeks912: check out kanagram or khangman on c-obs | 12:06 |
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| Khertan | if i understand : ElideLeft is suppose to truncate start of the string, isn't it ? | 12:15 |
| alterego | Kherten, indeed. | 12:16 |
| Khertan | but doesn't appear to be the case | 12:17 |
| Khertan | it s elideRight and didn't put '...' | 12:17 |
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| mtd | anyone ever run SQLite's VACUUM command on the N950/harmatta's tracker db? | 12:23 |
| mtd | http://www.sqlite.org/lang_vacuum.html | 12:23 |
| * mtd keeps hitting | 12:26 | |
| mtd | ... https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245 | 12:26 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug 245 maj, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, REOP, CPU 100% tracker contacts merge | 12:26 |
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| djszapi | anybody willing to test a hangman game ? :) | 13:51 |
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| rigo | what is a hangman game? | 14:06 |
| rigo | mtd, if this is copied from kdepim or from evolution (tracker sounds like evolution), then probably, your database with metadata has lost integrity and starts to try to recover from that but doesn't manage to | 14:07 |
| djszapi | I think if you do not know this, you were not child :p | 14:07 |
| rigo | I have no games on computers | 14:07 |
| djszapi | hangman is not really a computer game originally... | 14:08 |
| rigo | oh, I see now... They play it at the radio here | 14:09 |
| rigo | not my cup of tea | 14:09 |
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| rigo | mtd, to fix, _backup_ the entire metadata-system and restart from scratch while losing all your metadata (state etc) | 14:10 |
| rigo | with the backup, you can restore if it wasn't the database integrity | 14:10 |
| djszapi | rigo: do not be so negative publicly :) | 14:12 |
| rigo | hey folks, djszapi has created a really nice hangman game for Android and is now promoting it in the Harmattan channel! You should really buy that for only $$ 200! | 14:14 |
| rigo | :) | 14:14 |
| djszapi | huh ? | 14:14 |
| rigo | just kidding | 14:14 |
| djszapi | it is for Harmattan... | 14:14 |
| djszapi | and completely for free... | 14:14 |
| rigo | then it is worth $$ 300 | 14:15 |
| rigo | still kidding | 14:15 |
| rigo | I can try if you want | 14:15 |
| rigo | now lunch | 14:15 |
| rigo | bbl | 14:15 |
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| pa | anybody coding python for N9? | 15:19 |
| mtd | rigo: I'm talking about harmattan, for N950; if I start over, then I lose a lot of info I don't want to | 15:20 |
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| mtd | rigo: I'm thinking of backing up (of course)< then running VACCUM; and seeing what happens | 15:20 |
| * mtd is not sure if it can be run online | 15:20 | |
| mtd | pa: yes (N950 though) | 15:20 |
| pa | mtd, do you do on windows? | 15:22 |
| pa | i am having some troubles understanding how to package on windows | 15:22 |
| pa | on linux i undesrtood there is pyside-assistant that does it for me | 15:22 |
| alterego | Some pure QML stuff I'm working on: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/qtquick/lcd-segment-display-20120316-02.png | 15:22 |
| alterego | Just rectangles and shaders. | 15:22 |
| mtd | pa: on linux; I'm not on debian so pyside-assistant doesn't work :( | 15:23 |
| pa | ah i see | 15:23 |
| mtd | pa: sorry, don't know much about windows-land | 15:24 |
| mtd | (for N9, anyway) | 15:24 |
| pa | but do you package by hand or with some hand made scripts? | 15:24 |
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| pa | mtd, also do you use the emulator? or you just run on the device? | 15:25 |
| mtd | pa: I use scratchbox and the device | 15:25 |
| mtd | pa: I prefer the device | 15:25 |
| mtd | pa: I did have the emulator running in scratchbox once, but with python I don't see much point | 15:25 |
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| mtd | pa: I ssh in to the device and voila | 15:25 |
| pa | oh ok, thanks | 15:26 |
| pa | for the tips :) | 15:26 |
| mtd | pa: there is someone else who does python around here, IIRC | 15:26 |
| mtd | pa: well let me know any you find :) | 15:26 |
| pa | :) | 15:26 |
| pa | i didnt know scratchbox, luckily googling for that i found a nice post | 15:27 |
| mtd | pa: it's basically a whole debian install | 15:28 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | pa: specifically you want the "harmattan platform sdk" | 15:28 |
| mtd | pa: there seems to be some debate between "scratchbox" and "scratchbox2" | 15:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | is there a way to generate a debian source package in qt creator | 15:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (not just a binary package) | 15:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | how are all the qt creator users packaging their things for OBS/AFM | 15:32 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | haven't run into this myself yet since i've been doing it oldschool with dpkg-buildpackage -S | 15:33 |
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| matrixx | itsnotabigtruck: once I had to package on windows and I made it using git bash, git archive to the tarball and created .dsc manually with some md5/SHA1 tool | 15:36 |
| Venemo_N950 | hi everyone! | 15:36 |
| Venemo_N950 | hey matrixx :) | 15:37 |
| matrixx | Venemo_N950: hi o/ | 15:37 |
| matrixx | itsnotabigtruck: that thing was for OBS/AFM | 15:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | matrixx: that sounds pretty unfun | 15:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | qtc uses dpkg-buildpackage under the hood | 15:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so it ought to be possible to just do a build and change -b to -S somehow or something | 15:38 |
| matrixx | it's actually quite fast when I got the workflow | 15:38 |
| pa | ah thanks guys! | 15:38 |
| pa | now i understand what is this "platform sdk" :) | 15:38 |
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| Venemo_N950 | itsnotabigtruck, good news: this weekend I'll have time to improve IRC Chatter :) I'll probably take your advice too! | 15:38 |
| Venemo_N950 | matrixx, are there any news about the devaamo summit? | 15:41 |
| matrixx | Venemo_N950: call for presentations will be open soon | 15:42 |
| Venemo_N950 | matrixx, it will be in English, right? | 15:43 |
| matrixx | yes | 15:43 |
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| Venemo_N950 | do you think I should go there? | 15:43 |
| matrixx | absolutely yes :) | 15:43 |
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| Venemo_N950 | :) | 15:43 |
| matrixx | we had a great event last time (meego summit fi) | 15:44 |
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| matrixx | I don't expect this to be any less :) | 15:44 |
| Venemo_N950 | I still need to find someplace where I could "couch surf" :) | 15:44 |
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| matrixx | Venemo_N950: either that, or the hotel rooms are not expensive either. There's a Dream Hostel in Tampere, which has rooms with something like 20-30 euros per night | 15:45 |
| Venemo_N950 | mhm | 15:45 |
| Venemo_N950 | what would you recommend? | 15:46 |
| matrixx | the cheapest are like dormitories varying from 4 - 16 people | 15:46 |
| Anssi138 | summit web pages: http://summit.devaamo.fi/ | 15:47 |
| matrixx | Venemo_N950: probably difficult to couch surf with organizers since we have work late and get up early, but if you know other people from Tampere, both options are great :) | 15:47 |
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| Anssi138 | matrixx: maybe it would be nice to add some hotel info etc. | 15:47 |
| Venemo_N950 | Honestly, I'd much rather stay at another community member who I trust than at a random hostel. but I'll still need to think about it | 15:47 |
| Venemo_N950 | €20 doesn't sound like a lot. | 15:48 |
| matrixx | Anssi138: yeah, need to do that | 15:48 |
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| Venemo_N950 | Anssi138, yeah, I already checked out the website :) | 15:50 |
| Venemo_N950 | matrixx, well, I only know those people there who I talk to on IRC or Twitter :P | 15:51 |
| matrixx | Venemo_N950: I guess they are all organizers :P | 15:52 |
| Venemo_N950 | matrixx, it's possible... :P | 15:52 |
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| Venemo_N950 | I'll also need to practice my English, otherwise you all will be laughing at me :P | 15:54 |
| Venemo_N950 | matrixx, I have another silly question: is there anything interesting to do until 19th? that's the earliest flight after the event. | 15:57 |
| matrixx | I dunno, there might be some events but I don't know yet, it's kinda early | 15:58 |
| Venemo_N950 | any nice places I should visit or sights to see? :) | 16:00 |
| matrixx | Tampere has a pretty wicked amusement park Särkänniemi at least | 16:01 |
| matrixx | if you like such :) | 16:01 |
| Anssi138 | local pubs | 16:01 |
| Venemo_N950 | hehe | 16:01 |
| Venemo_N950 | :D | 16:01 |
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| matrixx | http://www.sarkanniemi.fi/www/sisalto.php?lang=en | 16:02 |
| Venemo_N950 | Anssi138, I'll ask your advice on those :P | 16:02 |
| Jeffrey04 | does anyone know what is wrong with TMO? it seems to be down a couple of hours ago | 16:02 |
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| Anssi138 | Venemo_N950: i am not so good at those, but ofc i know few. :) | 16:03 |
| Venemo_N950 | not so good? I don't believe that! :P | 16:04 |
| matrixx | :D | 16:05 |
| Anssi138 | i don't have any friends so i just stay inside and code :) | 16:09 |
| Venemo_N950 | :P | 16:09 |
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| Venemo_N950 | btw, how ridiculous is this? during the same period, the Harmattan version of my app received 86 downloads and the WP7 version 11 downloads. | 16:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | maybe on wp7 there's more competition | 16:14 |
| Venemo_N950 | I'll submit it to the Symbian Ovi Store as well, I'm quite curious about the numbers. | 16:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | looks like there's a new radio app in the ovi store that looks nice but it costs $2 :/ | 16:14 |
| Venemo_N950 | itsnotabigtruck, nope, the competition sux on both platforms. | 16:14 |
| Venemo_N950 | itsnotabigtruck, mine is the only puzzle app which supports multitouch rotation :) at least I haven't seen any other | 16:15 |
| kozzi_ | maybe because it doesn't have boobs | 16:15 |
| Jeffrey04 | itsnotabigtruck: erm, is the radio app the same as those seen in the fm rx/tx thread @ fmc?!? | 16:15 |
| Venemo_N950 | kozzi_, nah, the real problem is that it doesn't have cat pictures in it. | 16:16 |
| kozzi_ | cat with boobs will get you atleast 9001 dls | 16:16 |
| Venemo_N950 | I don't even understand how I could release a jigsaw puzzle app without cat pictures | 16:17 |
| Siva | itsnotabigtruck: Hi.. After installing inception, should I able to edit say.. /etc/init/ssh.conf? | 16:17 |
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| Venemo_N950 | hey djszapi :) | 16:18 |
| djszapi | 'sup | 16:18 |
| djszapi | khangman for tests: http://minus.com/mbi7LAOM7g#1 | 16:18 |
| djszapi | you can find screenshots in there, if you would like to check those out first before trying. | 16:18 |
| * djszapi is about to push to Ovi after fixing the minor mistakes caught by the tests. | 16:19 | |
| Venemo_N950 | :) | 16:20 |
| Venemo_N950 | I'm on a train at the moment | 16:20 |
| Venemo_N950 | :) | 16:20 |
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| Jeffrey04 | djszapi: downloaded, but it is not launching ... | 16:26 |
| Jeffrey04 | nothing happens after tapping it lol | 16:27 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: hmm, have you tried it from command line ? | 16:27 |
| djszapi | to see the issue. | 16:27 |
| Jeffrey04 | how do i start from command line? | 16:27 |
| djszapi | /opt/khangman/bin/khangman.sh | 16:27 |
| pa | is there any way, from any of the browsers for N9 (so stock, firefox, opera) to open a link with an application (e.g., a video player)? | 16:28 |
| Venemo_N950 | anyway, goodbye! see you later guys :) | 16:29 |
| frals | well, if its rstp:// or similar that are defaulting to open in video player it should happen automagically in grob at least | 16:29 |
| Jeffrey04 | djszapi: it says "error while loading shared libraries: libkdeclarative.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 16:29 |
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| pa | frals, no, just an http link | 16:30 |
| frals | pa: dont think so in that case | 16:31 |
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| pa | need to check if launchy extension is compatible | 16:31 |
| X-Fade | You can register the handler in a .desktop file. | 16:31 |
| pa | ah really? | 16:31 |
| pa | but then what? will the action be prompted? | 16:32 |
| gabriel9|work | for every fm radio i need to pay :( | 16:32 |
| X-Fade | Check how we did it in the apps client. | 16:32 |
| X-Fade | Where we listen for apps:// | 16:32 |
| pa | ah | 16:32 |
| pa | apps client | 16:32 |
| pa | let me search | 16:32 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: you caught one stupid mistake of mine, missing external lib delivery :) | 16:32 |
| frals | X-Fade: doesnt help if pa wants it to happen on a http:// link, or am I misunderstanding what he wants? | 16:33 |
| Jeffrey04 | :) | 16:33 |
| X-Fade | frals: Well depends on what he wants, not really clear from the description :) | 16:34 |
| pa | basically i want to open audio and video files with ovp or video-suite | 16:34 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: http://minus.com/mt6wWlMRX#1 | 16:36 |
| Jeffrey04 | lol, wait, lemme grab my n9 | 16:38 |
| Jeffrey04 | is there something like gnome-open for n9? | 16:39 |
| frals | xdg-open (or whatever its called) | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey04 | frals: thanks :) | 16:39 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: oh, I thought you had N9 around. | 16:39 |
| Jeffrey04 | it's ok, just went back to my room to grab it lol | 16:40 |
| Jeffrey04 | downloading | 16:40 |
| djszapi | it might be that libxcursor is still missing, but I can update that, too. | 16:41 |
| Jeffrey04 | lol, soooo slow… mebbe should register an a/c @ minus.com | 16:44 |
| Jeffrey04 | installing | 16:46 |
| Jeffrey04 | seems to be working so far | 16:49 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: have you run it from the app launcher ? | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey04 | yea | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey04 | from app launcher | 16:50 |
| Jeffrey04 | djszapi: so far seems to be working, anything u want me to test | 16:52 |
| djszapi | not much, I am interested in feedback though | 16:52 |
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| Jeffrey04 | would be nice if you have qwerty layout instead of alphabetical order tho lol | 16:55 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: it is not a keyboard | 16:56 |
| Jeffrey04 | lol | 16:57 |
| djszapi | it is an alphabet | 16:57 |
| djszapi | if I wanted to have keyboard, I would use the vkbd | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey04 | wait | 16:57 |
| djszapi | though, that would consume half of the screen | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey04 | the category i am selecting is clothing | 16:57 |
| djszapi | so there would be no space for the important stuff | 16:57 |
| Jeffrey04 | but the questions are all animals | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey04 | bug? | 16:58 |
| djszapi | you mean after reopening ? | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey04 | ? | 16:58 |
| djszapi | have you closed the application and reopened ? | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey04 | yea | 16:58 |
| djszapi | that is a known issue, yes. | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey04 | ok | 16:58 |
| djszapi | nobody complained about that in kanagram :) | 16:58 |
| Jeffrey04 | lol | 16:59 |
| djszapi | so I thought I do not fix it here either. | 16:59 |
| Jeffrey04 | didn't notice that there | 16:59 |
| djszapi | until users complain. | 16:59 |
| djszapi | actually it seems a simple fix, let me try something. | 16:59 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | need to travel, adios | 17:27 |
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| psycho_oreos | cya | 17:29 |
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| djszapi | stupid freenode | 17:39 |
| djszapi | *sigh* | 17:39 |
| gabriel9|work | it is better then pigeons :P | 17:43 |
| psycho_oreos | hey, don't mock the rats in the sky ;) | 17:44 |
| djszapi | Jeffrey04: could you please verify the bug fix ? http://minus.com/mYhfIBUVN#1 | 17:44 |
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| Jeffrey04 | sure | 17:46 |
| Jeffrey04 | wait | 17:46 |
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| Jeffrey04 | downloading | 17:47 |
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| Jeffrey04 | installing | 17:50 |
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| Jeffrey04 | seems to be working | 17:57 |
| Jeffrey04 | gotta sleep, needs to wake up in 5 hours :/ | 17:58 |
| Jeffrey04 | bb | 17:58 |
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| javispedro | I noticed that on the n950 it seems that the gps is connected directly to soc instead of cellmo, line in N810 days | 18:09 |
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| javispedro | and that n810's gpsdriver = n950's "nped" | 18:09 |
| javispedro | and nped probably means "Nokia Positioning Engine Daemon" | 18:12 |
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| djszapi | has anybody ever succeeded with a grf request ? I am especially interested in that if there is any person not giving up in the first place :) | 18:15 |
| Corsac | what's grf? | 18:18 |
| djszapi | http://freenode.net/grf-f.php | 18:19 |
| xmlich02 | BTW knows someone if i need to specify some aegis credentials to use QProcess class ? | 18:20 |
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| djszapi | it has nothing to do with qprocess itself. | 18:20 |
| djszapi | it is dependant on the process it runs I guess. | 18:21 |
| faenil | djszapi, using Symbio's pen at uni these days :D | 18:22 |
| djszapi | faenil: :) | 18:23 |
| djszapi | the sinking boat... | 18:23 |
| faenil | real pen I mean :D | 18:23 |
| djszapi | I know, I probably offered you one in Munich | 18:24 |
| djszapi | or you took it yourself :) | 18:24 |
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| xmlich02 | well, i have simple program http://pastebin.com/MUkSbcrj which starts new process (new process is just writing an log file) and i am not able to run it on harmattan | 18:26 |
| djszapi | you can write the home directory obviously as root for instance | 18:27 |
| djszapi | so make sure you run the process as user. | 18:27 |
| djszapi | cannot* | 18:27 |
| xmlich02 | i am logged in as a developer | 18:31 |
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| faenil | djszapi, yeah got it in Munich D | 18:31 |
| xmlich02 | the strange think is i can run the script manually, but not from c++ program. see http://pastebin.com/Fz7BiVbM | 18:31 |
| xmlich02 | I guess i miss some aegis permissions | 18:32 |
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| xmlich02 | I was using QProcess instance; instance.startDetached(). This function changes the pid of child process. When I am using start() it is working. Maybe it is problem in PID change | 18:47 |
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| Aranel | does anybody know where EA savefiles (nfsshift) are stored? And any good lpm mods that I should know? :) | 18:55 |
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| thp | itsnotabigtruck, Enforcer: gpodder is available in ovi store for pay and on apps.formeego.org for free | 19:20 |
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| Anssi138 | is it possible to add own user to n9 ? | 19:24 |
| Anssi138 | like adduser jnejne | 19:25 |
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| djszapiN9 | Anssi138, yes | 19:32 |
| Anssi138 | it works just like that? | 19:32 |
| djszapiN9 | how much sense it makes ? not much. | 19:32 |
| Anssi138 | friend asked | 19:33 |
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| Anssi138 | ofc you want to make djszapi user ? :) | 19:34 |
| Anssi138 | no? | 19:34 |
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| Corsac | why? | 19:34 |
| Anssi138 | and i don't actually have device so it's difficult to test | 19:34 |
| Corsac | n9 is not a multiuser device | 19:35 |
| djszapiN9 | nah, i do not wanna. | 19:35 |
| Anssi138 | because it used to be linux. | 19:35 |
| djszapiN9 | the design is entirely against unix in this sense for obvious reasons. | 19:36 |
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| Anssi138 | what's the reason for user control if there is not possible make user :) | 19:36 |
| Anssi138 | hm. aegis had some command i think. | 19:36 |
| djszapiN9 | I do not understand this question. | 19:37 |
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| Anssi138 | djszapiN9: you mean how to add new user in harmattan ? :) | 19:42 |
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| teleshoes | Anssi138, hes saying that the problem with adding new users is not an aegis or harmattan problem, but an inherent problem on a phone | 19:44 |
| teleshoes | phones dont lend themselves well to multi-user platform designs | 19:44 |
| teleshoes | i dont really agree, tho | 19:45 |
| djszapiN9 | Anssi138, just check the channel log. It was discussed many times | 19:47 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, you sent me a pm and disappeared :D | 19:47 |
| * djszapiN9 would not like to through the same bikeshed | 19:47 | |
| djszapiN9 | go* | 19:47 |
| djszapiN9 | faenil, yes, i was off to shopping | 19:48 |
| djszapiN9 | 'sup | 19:48 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, well you asked me something :P | 19:49 |
| djszapiN9 | yes, 'sup | 19:49 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, what am I supposed to test? I tapped random letters and it seemed to be working | 19:49 |
| djszapiN9 | any feedback is welcome | 19:49 |
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| Anssi138 | is there any keywords that i should look from logs? | 19:51 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, it's very nice :D | 19:52 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, but I actually wanted to see the man there, not a red X :D | 19:52 |
| faenil | ehheheh | 19:52 |
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| djszapiN9 | Anssi138, adduser or useradd ? | 19:54 |
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| djszapiN9 | faenil, sorry but i would like to avoid a hanging man for kids. | 19:56 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, yeah I know, just joking ;) | 19:56 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, but anyway, I guess kids draw a hanging man when they play that game :P at least I used to XD | 19:56 |
| djszapiN9 | no violence in here, sorry. | 19:57 |
| djszapiN9 | please satisfy your morbid needs with something else :) | 19:57 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, aahahah XD | 19:57 |
| faenil | we used to draw arms and legs one at a time when playing that game :) | 19:58 |
| faenil | what did you use to do? :) | 19:58 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, anyway, nice graphics ;) it's a nice game :) | 19:59 |
| mgedmin | djszapiN9, tested it, seemed to work fine | 19:59 |
| djszapiN9 | nacked cute girls :) | 19:59 |
| faenil | djszapiN9, ahahahaha4 | 19:59 |
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| djszapiN9 | mgedmin, cool then I push to ovi :) | 19:59 |
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| pa | do you know whether h264 in mp4 (or m4v) or mkv format can be streamed over rtsp, and whether N9 can open it? | 20:49 |
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| npm | hmmm funny overflow/rollover in birthday calendar reminder: "Starts: March 18, 2011... Ends: Feb 8 1875" ... | 21:00 |
| npm | PS... coming soon.... http://mediatator.googlecode.com (wip) | 21:02 |
| SpeedEvil | npm: Looks like fun. I guess you want an 808 to play with? | 21:03 |
| djszapi | if I make such a binding for a property in qml, when is the onSelectedIndexChanged signal handler called ? "selectedIndex: khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" I thought it is called only once, but apparently not ? | 21:06 |
| djszapi | it is a standalone Q_INVOKABLE method, and that is all. I am experiecing that in my Selection Dialog, the signal handler is entered once I run my application, and that is strange to me even if it has a valid reason. I would like to know that. :) | 21:07 |
| djszapi | I should probably call it onCompleted as a Component or so instead ? | 21:08 |
| djszapi | I do not quite understand why it is not only initialized, and why the signal handler is emitted :/ | 21:12 |
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| koe | hi everyone | 21:14 |
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| djszapi | so this is the question: what is the difference between "selectedIndex: khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" and "selectedIndex: 2;". I thought none of them should emit the signal handler since I thought they are just different type of initializations, but still: it is called in the first case, thus why is that different ? | 21:20 |
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| koe | i've got one too. does N9 has unlocked bootloader? | 21:26 |
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| pa | is there no python-gdata for harmattan? | 21:29 |
| pa | there is for maemo | 21:29 |
| trx | djszapi i am not sure about this, but the list is probably created with index -1, then when you show the list(run the app) it changes to whatever you set it to | 21:31 |
| trx | thats why it emits the signal | 21:31 |
| djszapi | trx: nah, it is initialized with whatever you set it too | 21:32 |
| djszapi | the question is that why is it initialized plus changed with an invokable method retval | 21:32 |
| matrixx | probably bindings work a bit differently than constant expressions | 21:35 |
| matrixx | can't figure out a valid reason though | 21:35 |
| trx | i have no idea without testing it out | 21:35 |
| djszapi | me neither; I think it is a use case, you save it when you close the app, and show the same element when you re-open it. | 21:35 |
| djszapi | and for that, you need to have an invokable accessor. | 21:36 |
| djszapi | only thing coming to my mind is a Component and completed signal, but not sure why the current version does not work. | 21:36 |
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| djszapi | qml experts needed :) | 22:34 |
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| npm | SpeedEvil: (belated reply "I guess you want an 808 to play with") -- yes please | 22:55 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 22:55 |
| SpeedEvil | 808 with maemo on would be nice. Seeming slightly unlikely though | 22:56 |
| npm | 808 w/ symbian is fine, thank you :-) | 22:56 |
| npm | hold the windows phone though :-) | 22:57 |
| npm | djszapi: "khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" will get called each time 'khangmanEngine' changes ? | 23:00 |
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| npm | "selectedIndex: 2;" has same declarative value at initialization as it does throughout life of app, doesn't change | 23:01 |
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