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npm <-- N9 PR1.2 security and SSH: world writable /home/developer and /home/user/.*05:24
itsnotabigtruckslow night tonight :(05:29
itsnotabigtruckguess everybody's doing something for the 14th05:29
itsnotabigtrucki have homework :/05:29
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befordforever athome05:35
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djszapiX-Fade ping06:04
djszapianybody using "osc" here ?06:09
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi ^ that's the obs client utility, right?06:09
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djszapithe only interface to debug c-obs issues.06:10
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djszapicould not get it run on my arch box, so using on my ubuntu server.06:12
djszapiThough it would be handier to use it on my host.06:12
djszapimy friend's ubuntu server*06:12
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* RST38h moos09:30
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sony123Hi all, could anyone point me to how to gain root access for a QProcess?09:45
sony123Or granting an app with root privilege so the child QProcess also gets root access09:46
sony123Thanks in advance09:46
jonnisony123: setuid(0);setgid(0);09:51
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sony123How do I directly apply them on a QProcess? On QProcess documentation I only see these arguments in setupChildProcess () virtual function09:56
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jonnicall the functions inside qprocess?09:56
sony123Ok I will look into that direction09:57
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sony123I was thinking there might be a way to get permission from aegis10:00
sony123Thanks for the help!10:04
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djszapiyes, there is a way to get permission from aegis10:09
jonniah, he quit already, setuid will ofcourse fail if you dont fill aegis manifest :)10:09
djszapisetu/gid(0) sounds like a nasty hack :)10:09
djszapiwell I am saying it to you, not to him really :)10:09
jonniwell if he wants to run his app as user and some of the child processes as root atleast in my mind setuid is the easiest way. unless you have some nicer tricks10:11
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djszapiI think it is dirty10:14
djszapiespecially because it is not gonna work without aegis10:14
djszapiand if you request aegis creds, you do not need that hack anymore.10:14
djszapiso that thing should really not be used :)10:14
jonniso aegis creds allow you to change your process to be root and back to user on the fly?10:14
jonniafaik standard unix setuid is the way to go10:15
djszapithat is a really nasty hack as I said10:15
djszapiand I explained why10:15
jonniwell can you give example how to do it without setuid?10:15
jonniI want my app to start as user, then after pressing some button to run some functions as root and then switch back to user?10:16
djszapivery simple you run a script10:16
djszapia proxy one10:16
djszapiand you do not mess up with root for a process10:16
djszapijust for a dedicated task.10:17
jonnibut if I want everything just to be one binary without any scripts10:17
djszapiwhy would you ?10:17
djszapithat is the point, you do not wanna :SD10:17
djszapibecause you mess up with root credentials for more than you need.10:17
jonnicoding convention prefers one binary. But yes if you do seperate scripts/binaries then aegis manifest is enough.10:18
djszapiespecially if the security framework once allows changing on the fly.10:19
djszapiit could be even nicer.10:19
djszapiI do not care about "coding convention" against security principles honestly.10:19
djszapistyle cannot override security considerations imo.10:20
jonniwell yes most likely sony doesnt even need root for anything, as in real life that user is quite limited on N9, without known what his app was trying to do its hard to say10:20
djszapino it is app dependent10:20
djszapithe root functionality needs to have root, and not the whole stuff10:21
djszapiit is a clear separation.10:21
djszapiit is not app dependent*10:21
jonniand there is no security in N9, so for me its style :)10:21
djszapiof course there is.10:21
RST38hnot for the user10:22
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jonniwell yes, bb5, crypto, aegis and devicelock, so there is security atleast on some level10:31
djszapiX-Fade ping :)10:32
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rhkfinIn address book, pressing long on a contact opens a menu. How do I close it?10:45
djszapiradiofree: marble does use openstreet map.10:46
radiofreecool, OSM is the best!10:47
djszapilbt ping11:00
djszapilbt why is "coverage" build type the default on c-obs ?11:00
djszapiit is different everywhere else :)11:00
djszapilbt X-Fade it makes tons of packages fail.11:01
djszapicoverage is not the default build type on Harmattan.11:03
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djszapiX-Fade lbt
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djszapiagain ?14:17
petteriif i try to load it just says: Rediction loop detected14:17
djszapiit now works for me.14:20
griyeah, showed "redirection error" once and then loaded fine14:20
djszapithere are many temporary issues like that14:21
petteriah, ok. Works from n9 but not from my desktop, so no worries :)14:22
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damaltordoesnt work from my desktop either14:31
damaltormaybe there is some mobile site working fine but the desktop version is dead14:32
djszapif5 ?14:32
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djszapinope what ?14:59
damaltornope as in f5 doesnt fix it15:04
djszapiinterestingly, wfm seemingly.15:04
AppiahHow do you find contacts in Exchange? No way to search company directory?15:10
damaltoroh, apps4meego works now15:14
damaltorAppiah: they should get synced to your normal contacts app15:14
alteregoAnyone happen to know how in QML you can get the current focus item?15:14
alteregoI don't want to have to traverse the entire object tree and look for 'focus == true' ^.^15:14
Appiahit's not my exchange contacts damaltor :D15:15
AppiahI mean searching for contacts on the server..15:15
Appiahand mailinglists15:15
damaltoroh sry, then i cant help you15:16
djszapialterego: cache it ?15:16
AppiahI'm starting to think it's not implemented for some reason..15:16
alteregodjszapi: this is at platform level unfortunately.15:18
djszapialterego: what do you mean ?15:18
alteregoI mean, this is me hacking on qt-components.15:19
alteregoI'd rather not do something that invasive to track current focus item, though admittedly it'd make things easier ..15:19
djszapiat least I do not know distinct approach, sorry :)15:20
alteregoYeah, nvm15:20
alteregoAh, ha.15:21
AppiahI'll just file a feature request like this one
povbotBug 7222: Company Directory not present15:22
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alteregoWell, they track the focus item in QGraphicsScene, but there's no way of getting that from QML, typical.15:43
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djszapialterego: contribute back ?15:47
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alteregoToo busy to work out the best way to do that right now.15:50
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_MeeGoBot_Bug 944 enh, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, NEW, Request: Implement "Company directory"16:04
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djszapiX-Fade lbt why is not proceeding because of different time settings ?
lbtcould be16:40
djszapiI mean ... it should not care, should it16:40
lbtno, it's not that16:45
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lbtthe source is new16:45
lbtpossibly your machine?16:45
lbtit's not that == time on the worker and fe/be is correct, I just checked16:46
djszapilbt date16:47
djszapiWed Feb 15 16:47:31 UTC 201216:47
djszapiwe have UTC + 2 hours here.16:47
djszapils -lda grantlee_0.2.0-1.debian.tar.gz16:48
djszapi-rw-rw-r-- 1 lpapp lpapp 8631 Feb 15 14:59 grantlee_0.2.0-1.debian.tar.gz16:48
djszapilbt got a clue ?16:53
lbtabort and restart?16:54
djszapiI will patiently wait for the time experitation then to not be in the future.16:55
lbtI have seen issues with ntp on c.obs just recently16:55
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djszapilbt also could you please take a bug posted above ?16:56
djszapiMight be just a simple one-liner configuration change somewhere.16:56
djszapilbt yeah, I am not sure where "Coverage" build type comes from. The default should be notype if the user does not select anything explicitely.16:57
lbtsadly I know nothing about Harmattan builds16:57
lbtX-Fade has that side16:58
lbtI wish I had more time to work on H16:58
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lbtbut I don't even have a Harmattan device16:58
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djszapilbt haven't you requested a developer device ?16:59
lbtI got an N950 but it was for Nemo development16:59
lbtI'd love an N9 for Harmattan but ...16:59
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SivaI am getting this error on flashing for the first time: ERROR: SU_GET_PARAMETER_REQ terminated with error code 7: Object not found17:07
SivaERROR: Unable to get SU_PARAM_HW_BUILD17:07
SivaERROR: Could not find flashing interface17:07
Sivathe device is an N950..17:08
Sivapointer anyone?17:08
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itsnotabigtrucksiva: unplug the phone, power it off, run flasher -i, reattach the phone and power it on17:09
itsnotabigtruck-i will put it into bootloader mode so it's ready to go for the flash step17:09
djszapiinteresting, I have never had the need for using -i17:11
Sivaitsnotabigtruck: no luck.. same error :(17:14
Sivaitsnotabigtruck: flasher -i gives :Suitable USB interface (bootloader/phonet) not found, waiting...17:14
SivaUSB device found at bus 002, device address 048.17:14
SivaDevice identifier: 4D3841333534393033 (SN: M8A354903)17:14
SivaFound device RM-680, hardware revision 082917:14
SivaNOLO version 1.7.817:14
SivaVersion of 'sw-release': RM-680_HARMATTAN_0.2010.32-5_ENOS_MR017:14
djszapiSiva you do know paste sites, don't you :D17:15
Sivadjszapi: oh yeah.. my bad.. pasted in a hurry.17:15
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djszapilbt what the ... err :) I cannot even override the build type for c-obs in my debian/rules file.17:25
djszapiso this "Coverage" build type I have never heard of, is pretty hard coded and read only.17:26
* lbt doesn't know what it is17:26
lbtI'd literally have to start with google "Coverage build type"17:26
lbtthen start grepping source in the obs17:27
lbtand at the moment I just don't have time17:27
djszapiI hope X-Fade is gonna have time.17:28
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itsnotabigtrucksiva: that doesn't look like an error...17:38
itsnotabigtruckthat's exactly what it's supposed to do, even says success at the end17:38
itsnotabigtruckalso might be a good idea to redact your serial number next time, heh17:39
Sivaitsnotabigtruck: i meant the same error: Unable to get SU_PARAM_HW_BUILD.. was thrown when i tried flashing after using flasher -i17:39
itsnotabigtrucksiva: oh, wonderful17:40
itsnotabigtruckso it's definitely connecting to the bootloader then17:40
itsnotabigtruckjust blowing up after that17:40
Sivaitsnotabigtruck: sorry to say but i gotta run now. could we continue later plz.. thanks.17:41
itsnotabigtruckalso djszapi: it probably has to do with code coverage analysis17:41
itsnotabigtruckand k17:41
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: there is no code coverage on c-obs ?17:42
djszapisince it is not a static analyzes tool ?17:42
djszapiso it doe snot make sense to me to have it.17:43
djszapiespecially because it is incompatible with the official environment17:43
djszapiand even with desktop distributions17:43
djszapiand rotfl I need to set back my local time to get it adjusted to c-obs so that it is not stall on c-obs :D17:44
* djszapi feels weird there is no method/macro in QTest to have a comparison for the actual and expected results, but with a threshold value.17:46
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djszapiN9did anybody get the email client any reliable ?18:51
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merlin1991hm pyside is giving me the finger currently, all I get is a black view, it seems not to load my qml18:53
merlin1991how can I debug if qtquick even finds my qml file?18:54
djszapiN9it does if path is correct18:54
merlin1991well the qml file is in the same path as the python file and the filename is correct18:56
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bindihow exactly are different NFC versions supposed to work together? why won't they work at all? (assuming the version is different, can't even see that anywhere)20:54
binditried NFC between an N9 and my galaxy nexus, nothing :)20:54
fralsprobably because android is using NFC to share stuff in one way and n9 some other way20:58
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befordanyone used TransferUI ? i'm having problems getting it to work21:04
djszapiwhat problems beford ?21:04
befordsegfaults xD21:05
befordits probably my fault I'm using the example from the library21:05
djszapioh :)21:06
befordjust wanted to see if there was a better example available, I will check later when I finish my work21:07
itsnotabigtruckbindi: in the PR1.2 changelog it says they removed 'android ndef push protocol' support21:09
itsnotabigtruck(which is used by android for NFC)21:09
bindiitsnotabigtruck: why would they do that?21:09
itsnotabigtruckwell, i think there's another more standard protocol21:09
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itsnotabigtruckif android supports both, and N9's ndef support is broken, that could be the issue21:09
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bindisilly :) friend and I are disappointed that it didn't work21:10
itsnotabigtruckFor NDEF push to function properly the other NFC device must support either NFC Forum's SNEP (Simple Ndef Exchange Protocol), or Android's "" (Ndef Push Protocol). This was optional on Gingerbread level Android NFC devices, but SNEP is mandatory on Ice-Cream-Sandwich and beyond.21:10
itsnotabigtruckso you might need PR1.2 and a relatively new android phone for it to work21:11
bindiwell the nexus is an ICS phone21:11
itsnotabigtruckor just the latter21:11
bindiwait, is PR1.2 out yet or is it the update that brings folders?21:11
bindinot sure, my friend is the N9 guy21:11
itsnotabigtruckit's not out yet, it's in beta21:12
itsnotabigtruckbut not for us N9 peons21:12
itsnotabigtruckonly holders of N950 developer units21:12
merlin1991djszapi: I fixed my qml problem21:12
merlin1991stripping down my qml to the bare minimum and suddenly it appeared21:12
djszapi -> anybody any ideas for this ? :)21:14
djszapiwhat doesn't dh_makeshlibs like ?21:14
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djszapiheh, someone put into his patch: Reviewed-by: "Trust me" :)21:24
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mgedminreminds me of Honest Achmed's Used Cars and SSL Certificates21:27
mgedminbest bug ever --
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itsnotabigtruckmgedmin: bahaha21:31
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GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer, ping?21:37
GeneralAntillesOr any qualified EE, actually.21:39
GeneralAntillesMy vacuum cleaner has a radio controller in the handle.21:39
GeneralAntillesBut it's got this tiny little loop antenna that mostly requires putting the handle on the vacuum to get it to actually work.21:39
GeneralAntillesI'm wondering if I solder a length of 30AWG magnet wire to it if things will improve.21:40
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beford:D transferui works22:34
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Venemohey everyone :)23:00
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befordhi Venemo23:33
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Venemohi beford23:34
Venemo~seen faenil23:35
infobotfaenil <~faenil@> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 1d 4h 42m 10s ago, saying: 'who knows where the rest comes from?'.23:35
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