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| ZogG_laptop | e-yes: =) | 00:31 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i always miss-spelled your nick name here | 00:32 |
| phunguy | e-{tab} | 00:37 |
| phunguy | never misspell again | 00:37 |
| phunguy | lol | 00:37 |
| itsnotabigtruck | phunguy: until you get someone else with a vaguely similar nickname, heh | 00:39 |
| Sazpaimon | hey e-yes, out of curiosity, have you ever looked at porting the dalvik runtime elsewhere ala alien dalvik/icedrobot? | 00:39 |
| Sazpaimon | since other people are highlighting you | 00:39 |
| e-yes | Sazpaimon, no | 00:43 |
| e-yes | dalvik is cross platform | 00:43 |
| e-yes | problem is inside framework/base and hal | 00:43 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah I have absolutely no idea how dalvik works, never even used android, not even nitdroid | 00:44 |
| e-yes | let assume that dalvik is some scripting language interpretator (like php/perl/python/etc) | 00:45 |
| e-yes | then framework/hal is 'bindings' to various libraries that give ability to interact with I/O devices, perform IPC and so on | 00:46 |
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| Sazpaimon | so I assume alien dalvik either acts as a bridge to these libraries or rewrites them completely | 00:53 |
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| Sazpaimon | would anyone be interested in adding steam chat to telepathy? | 02:35 |
| Sazpaimon | there's a C# project for it | 02:35 |
| Sazpaimon | I made an attempt, but I don't know a lot about C# and even less about telepathy | 02:36 |
| djszapi | I know somewhat both, and I have an interest, but no time :/ | 02:36 |
| Sazpaimon | well should you ever change your mind there's a project at https://bitbucket.org/VoiDeD | 02:38 |
| Sazpaimon | since there's now a steam chat program for android and iOS, it'd be cool to get one for harmattan/fremnantle over telapathy, to 1-up the official client | 02:40 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: hmm, sounds interesting | 03:02 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not something i'd do myself, but interestijng | 03:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the thing is that steam chat really exists for chatting, while playing games, on steam | 03:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not your phone | 03:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | neither steam chat nor facebook chat are suitable for general purpose stuff | 03:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | otoh both of them seem to have kinda taken off for exactly that | 03:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and "traditional" im isn't exactly popular now among the 'general population' heh | 03:04 |
| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, yeah, I agree, Steam was never meant as a social IM type of thing | 03:06 |
| Sazpaimon | but it's certainly become that with stuff like group chat and the lik | 03:07 |
| Sazpaimon | and now Valve has officially supported steam chat on android and iOS | 03:07 |
| Sazpaimon | and I know a large majority of my friends, myself included, either use IRC or steam for communication | 03:07 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: get them to use jabber! especially if they already use a multiprotocol im program | 03:08 |
| Sazpaimon | I dont ever use AIM or MSN | 03:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | e.g. if they use pidgin for their irc | 03:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | forget aim/msn/yahoo though | 03:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also if they're using pidgin get them to install pidgin-otr too | 03:08 |
| Sazpaimon | I dont know why I should 'get people' to do something different just to meet my needs | 03:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | jabber is somewhat secure, but it can't be trusted for interdomain connections on most servers atm | 03:08 |
| Sazpaimon | i already use gtalk for work, and I agree its a superior protocol | 03:09 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | because then they can chat on a better im system? i mean, yeah, not everyone is very receptive to that | 03:09 |
| Sazpaimon | but everyone I know uses steam, because we all already use steam anyway | 03:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but in the chance event that they are, i don't see what's wrong with trying to "get people" to switch protocols or whatnot | 03:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw is steam chat ssl'd or aything like that? | 03:10 |
| Sazpaimon | it uses some form of encryption, yes | 03:10 |
| Sazpaimon | it isnt plaintext going back and forth | 03:10 |
| Sazpaimon | https://bitbucket.org/VoiDeD/steamre/wiki/Networking/Protocol-level_messages.wiki | 03:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | geez this code is ugly | 03:12 |
| Sazpaimon | i believe this goes over the formst | 03:12 |
| Sazpaimon | *format | 03:12 |
| itsnotabigtruck | where's the messaging code? | 03:12 |
| Sazpaimon | its been a while since I looked, let me see if i remember | 03:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i found some stuff that looks pretty warm | 03:13 |
| Sazpaimon | damn, youre right this code is a mess | 03:14 |
| Sazpaimon | if it helps, Vapor is the actual client | 03:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | still haven't found anything that would seem to have anything to do with sending a steam friends message | 03:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ah | 03:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | didn't realize that was it | 03:15 |
| Sazpaimon | SteamRE is the protocol behind it | 03:15 |
| Sazpaimon | i actually tried getting vapor to work on Mono on the N900, it wouldn't run | 03:15 |
| Sazpaimon | which is strange becaus it was developed for use with Mono | 03:15 |
| Sazpaimon | but I think Mono's ARM port is mostly abandoned | 03:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Steam3.SteamFriends.SendChatMessage | 03:17 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah, Steam3 is the latest steam protocol that handles a lot of steam community and gameserver<->steam communication | 03:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, so the message send function is here https://bitbucket.org/VoiDeD/steamre/src/d0732c6703b4/SteamKit2/SteamKit2/Steam3/Handlers/SteamFriends/SteamFriends.cs | 03:17 |
| Sazpaimon | I think steam2 is only really used for CDN purposes at this point | 03:17 |
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| Sazpaimon | steam is actually a really complex and powerful protocol, I have to hand it to Valve on that | 03:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | apparently they're using some custom crypto layer? | 03:18 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah, steam3 crypto is documented on the wiki | 03:18 |
| Sazpaimon | it's AES based | 03:18 |
| Sazpaimon | https://bitbucket.org/VoiDeD/steamre/wiki/Networking/Steam3.wiki | 03:19 |
| Sazpaimon | there we are | 03:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | eh, "aes based" is pretty irrelevant...basically everything that isn't absolutely terrible is using aes | 03:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but what really matters is key management | 03:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | for example: Client generates a 256bit session key. | 03:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | This key is encrypted by a 1024bit public RSA key for the specific universe. | 03:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's dumb...1024-bit rsa = 80-bit security level | 03:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so using aes-256 is just wasting a lot of bits | 03:21 |
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| Sazpaimon | off topic, but apparently whitney houston died | 03:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hm | 03:22 |
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| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, just came across this: https://github.com/Overv/SteamWebAPI | 04:11 |
| Sazpaimon | apparently valve opened up their web api for steam chat | 04:16 |
| Sazpaimon | which is what they use for the mobile client | 04:16 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: ah, maybe that's a better idea | 04:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | as long as it's encrypted | 04:40 |
| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, yes, their web api uses standard SSL encryption | 04:40 |
| Sazpaimon | which would be a LOT more sane than dealing with their custom encryption | 04:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, it's making an ssl connection to https://someip | 04:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | better make sure to validate that stuff | 04:40 |
| Sazpaimon | and, it would allow for publishing to the ovi store since it isn't reverse engineering | 04:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | looks like it's just https://store.steampowered.com | 04:41 |
| Sazpaimon | yep | 04:41 |
| Sazpaimon | and the path defines what gets done | 04:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | re ovi store, though it's problematic how they don't let you package stuff correctly | 04:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | like there should really be e.g. a cross-platform telepathy-steam package, and then an accounts-plugin-steam or something like that | 04:43 |
| Sazpaimon | how does extraplugins handle it | 04:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it probably doesn't, lol | 04:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well, actually, doesn't it use telepathy-haze? | 04:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's in the nokia repo | 04:44 |
| Sazpaimon | let me check the control file | 04:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so extraplugins would just be the account plugin part | 04:44 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hence the name | 04:44 |
| Sazpaimon | it bundles haze | 04:45 |
| Sazpaimon | and libpurple | 04:45 |
| Sazpaimon | it actually has telepathy-haze binary bundled with it | 04:45 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | well that's ugly :/ | 04:49 |
| Sazpaimon | which is probably why it conflicts with every other package | 04:49 |
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| npm | east midlands is a no place for a n9 to be stuck for a day | 07:54 |
| * npm tracking dhl | 07:55 | |
| npm | hope the package doesn't get mixed up with a hobbit's "it encompasses the combined area Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Rutland, Northamptonshire and most of Lincolnshire." | 07:59 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hah | 08:10 |
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| djszapi | rzr: The xsltproc package is broken. Could you fix it please ? | 09:42 |
| djszapi | libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.25) -> libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.19) That is the fix. | 09:43 |
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| djszapi | can someone send me the link of the libjpeg62-dev package, please ? | 09:51 |
| djszapi | http://www.ageofikon.com/prh/index.php?Action=list&System=.%2F&Arg=libjpeg62-dev&Section=&Repo=0 -> packrat does not find it, nor do I. | 09:52 |
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| djszapi | rzr: actually the real fix is to delete xsltproc from the community repository altogether since it is provided by Nokia even if a lower version. | 09:56 |
| djszapi | Package 'libxslt' was removed successfully from project 'home:rzr:harmattan' -> ok, history. | 09:57 |
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| djszapi | ohh it is not free. | 10:17 |
| djszapi | can someone get please the non-free link who has it already installed ? | 10:18 |
| djszapi | ohh they recently make the non-free visible as well, cool: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/non-free/libj/libjpeg6b/ | 10:20 |
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| djszapi | rzr: found a fast way for ~1 hour kdelibs build :) | 12:16 |
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| djszapi | X-Fade ping, how many cores are there on the c-obs build machines ? Do you use the /proc/cpuinfo + 1 number for -jX ? | 12:18 |
| djszapi | lbt, too ^ | 12:18 |
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| blueslee | i have some issues with sb installation on rpm based os, 64-bit: is it correct to use http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/unstable/beta3/harmattan-sdk-setup.py ? is this the latest installer, are there any up-to-date install/run instructions? | 12:52 |
| djszapi | yes, that is the latest. | 12:53 |
| djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/platform-sdk/ | 12:53 |
| blueslee | okay, it says i should start scratchbox with "scratchbox" which is unfortunately not found on my linux box, i modified the installer script to install scratchbox to /home/user/meego/scratchbox | 12:56 |
| djszapi | faenil: o/ | 12:56 |
| faenil | o/ djszapi | 12:56 |
| blueslee | i habe run run_me_first.sh and tried ./login from the scratchbox folder | 12:57 |
| djszapi | blueslee: what is the question ? | 12:58 |
| blueslee | the question is how to run scratchbox? is there a binary called "scratchbox" like the docu says? http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_Platform_SDK_user_guide_Using_Harmattan_Platform_SDK.html | 13:00 |
| djszapi | blueslee: you need to log in. | 13:01 |
| djszapi | -> /scratchbox/login | 13:01 |
| djszapi | as user... | 13:01 |
| djszapi | /home/user/meego/scratchbox/login in your dirty hack. | 13:02 |
| blueslee | before i do this from the scratchbox folder as root "./sbin/sbox_ctl start" | 13:02 |
| djszapi | yes | 13:02 |
| djszapi | and be done, what is wrong ? | 13:02 |
| blueslee | everything seems to be dirty:-) | 13:02 |
| blueslee | i get "sudo: /home/xyz/meego/scratchbox/users/xyz: command not found" where xyz is my user | 13:03 |
| blueslee | Welcome to Scratchbox, the cross-compilation toolkit! | 13:04 |
| blueslee | 13:04 | |
| blueslee | Use 'sb-menu' to change your compilation target. | 13:04 |
| blueslee | See /scratchbox/doc/ for documentation. | 13:04 |
| djszapi | I am seriously not getting the issue. | 13:04 |
| djszapi | /home/user/meego/scratchbox/./sbin/sbox_ctl start && /home/user/meego/scratchbox/login -> done | 13:05 |
| blueslee | the first one has to run as root | 13:05 |
| djszapi | yes of course | 13:06 |
| djszapi | since it is a sbin command anyway | 13:06 |
| djszapi | but what is the issue ? | 13:06 |
| blueslee | login does not work as i always get "sudo: /home/xyz/meego/scratchbox/users/xyz: command not found" | 13:07 |
| djszapi | why not use su user ? | 13:07 |
| djszapi | before login ? | 13:07 |
| djszapi | you do not wanna login as root | 13:08 |
| blueslee | what do you mean? i have theree terminals, one with root for the sbox_ctl (setting some mounts), one with user for xephyr, one with user for the login | 13:09 |
| blueslee | an the latter outputs the above errors | 13:09 |
| djszapi | three terminals :D :D | 13:09 |
| djszapi | ls /home/xyz/meego/scratchbox/users/ | 13:10 |
| blueslee | hehe, three is my luck number | 13:10 |
| djszapi | three terminals for 2 commands, not bad. | 13:11 |
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| djszapi | anyway since you are inside the sb already. | 13:12 |
| djszapi | why not create the missing user in sb ? | 13:12 |
| blueslee | whatever, it does not change anything, i could sudo the first one, add & for teh second and have the error in one single terminal | 13:12 |
| blueslee | i did that | 13:12 |
| djszapi | also why not post the output I ask ? :) | 13:12 |
| djszapi | help us help you :) | 13:12 |
| blueslee | groups shows that user belongs to sbox | 13:12 |
| blueslee | it shows me a folder named xyz | 13:13 |
| djszapi | please paste the /whole/ output whilw doing your procedure. | 13:14 |
| blueslee | and "ls -al /home/xyz/meego/scratchbox/users/xyz" some symbolic links for mapping | 13:14 |
| djszapi | I seriously think it is some communication issue | 13:14 |
| djszapi | it cannot be that hard. | 13:14 |
| djszapi | as xyz: ls /home/xyz/meego/scratchbox/users/ && sudo /home/user/meego/scratchbox/./sbin/sbox_ctl restart && /home/user/meego/scratchbox/login | 13:15 |
| blueslee | http://pastebin.com/jb0XDqAK | 13:17 |
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| djszapi | I did not ask for this output, really :) | 13:17 |
| djszapi | Venemo_N950: o/ | 13:18 |
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| blueslee | djszapi: http://pastebin.com/1mcfPvVz | 13:20 |
| djszapi | please give from prompt | 13:22 |
| blueslee | http://pastebin.com/acJq8Akh | 13:22 |
| djszapi | ls -lda /home/held/meego/scratchbox/users/held | 13:24 |
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| djszapi | I would recommend following the installer without any hackery. | 13:29 |
| djszapi | perhaps, it is not robust enough | 13:29 |
| djszapi | you can move the stuff later after the installation. | 13:29 |
| Venemo_N950 | hey djszapi | 13:29 |
| blueslee | yeah yeah | 13:30 |
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| djszapi | Venemo_N950: how is stuff ? :) | 13:54 |
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| mtd | is aegis-developer-mode gone in pr 1.2? it's not in $PATH... | 15:12 |
| blueslee | djszapi: sb work now, same installation path as before | 15:16 |
| blueslee | djszapi: thanks for your patience, its a matter of minutes for my next questions:-) | 15:17 |
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| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, ping | 15:58 |
| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, I'd like to ask you for advice | 15:59 |
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| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, where're you when I need you? :P | 16:49 |
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| lucido | would you guys recommend gitorious for vc? | 17:10 |
| frals | github | 17:11 |
| lucido | frals, it's better? | 17:15 |
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| tabasko | argh, annoying to try get zip file downloaded to n9 =) | 17:33 |
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| blueslee | tabasko: what is the issue? | 17:48 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | tabasko: is it the browser being fussy about MIME types? | 17:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if you control the server, change your web server's settings so it works | 17:51 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | if you don't, just use wget or something | 17:51 |
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| SqRt7744 | does anyone know how to get the text of the selected item in SelectionDialog as a signal back to c++? | 17:55 |
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| trx | create a invokable function in cpp and call it from onChange/onSelect/whatever its called | 18:02 |
| trx | or create a context property with notify action | 18:03 |
| trx | and use it as the index | 18:03 |
| blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: i am using opera. though it is sticked to landscape mode it has different advantages | 18:03 |
| SqRt7744 | trx, thanks, I'll try that. You wouldn't be able to point me to some sample code, would you? | 18:04 |
| blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: sb is running and i packaged lixml2* with your instructions, now i will see if this was sufficient | 18:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | blueslee: nice | 18:04 |
| trx | SqRt7744 not really for your exact problem but you can use this to learn : http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/qtbinding.html | 18:05 |
| trx | SqRt7744 "Exchanging Data between QML and C++" | 18:05 |
| SqRt7744 | alright sounds good | 18:06 |
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| Richlv | are there any wireless analyzers or similar apps for harmattan/n9 ? my searches come up with nothing | 19:35 |
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| * rzr http://rzr.online.fr/q/jukebox# Setup my !DebiaN #FreeDomBox #NaS + #SfX as #AudioPlayer and using #n950 as #MpD remote control ; !n950club | 19:39 | |
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| Richlv | #that's !a #new !style, #seems !to #have !taken #over #SZ | 19:57 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rzr: what's up with the rAndomCaPs!!! | 20:01 |
| rzr | not big entropy random ... | 20:03 |
| rzr | btw let me rebuild the qml version ... | 20:03 |
| djszapi | blueslee: cool | 20:05 |
| djszapi | rzr: I updated kdelibs to 4.8 | 20:05 |
| djszapi | we can now rock ;) | 20:05 |
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| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: hey man o/ :) | 20:08 |
| blueslee | djszapi: also thanks to you, now i have an auto updating public transport information screen on the lps screen of my n9 | 20:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: what's up | 20:10 |
| djszapi | blueslee: very cool :) | 20:11 |
| rzr | djszapi: building ? | 20:11 |
| rzr | great | 20:11 |
| djszapi | rzr: just locally, I need to push to the comm repo | 20:12 |
| rzr | ill try out that kde4 mpd client | 20:12 |
| djszapi | we will have plasma components soon :) | 20:12 |
| rzr | this does not insure obs will handle it | 20:12 |
| rzr | this is a nice job | 20:12 |
| djszapi | rzr: I do not give a shit to obs :) | 20:12 |
| djszapi | I can upload to the fallback kde repo | 20:13 |
| djszapi | so that is gonna work always | 20:13 |
| djszapi | getting it work on c-obs is just a plus | 20:13 |
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| Sazpaimon | so if I'm gonna make this steam chat thing | 20:22 |
| Sazpaimon | im not gonna make it in qt creator | 20:22 |
| Sazpaimon | because i cant stand qt creator now | 20:22 |
| Sazpaimon | its complicated as hell | 20:22 |
| * Sazpaimon sticks to vi | 20:22 | |
| djszapi | +1 | 20:23 |
| Sazpaimon | also, if I make the account plugin in qt that makes it incompatible with mamo 5 doesnt it | 20:23 |
| Sazpaimon | i'd need to rewrite the interface in gtk | 20:24 |
| djszapi | in qt ? | 20:24 |
| djszapi | that sounds a bad idea... | 20:24 |
| djszapi | either MTF or qml | 20:24 |
| djszapi | I personally prefer MTF for that task. | 20:24 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah thats what I meant, qml | 20:24 |
| Sazpaimon | I was just going to base it off of extraplugins, which uses qml | 20:25 |
| djszapi | since the builtin plugins were written in MTF, and most of it is copy/paste, it sounded a straight-forward idea to me :) | 20:25 |
| djszapi | except facebook, twitter | 20:26 |
| djszapi | actually even the facebook account bits are in mtf | 20:26 |
| Sazpaimon | but if I wanted a maemo 5 port, would need to rewrite the ui in gtk or does maemo 5 provide telepathy qt4 libs | 20:26 |
| djszapi | maemo does provide qt and qml. | 20:27 |
| djszapi | imo there has also been an ongoing components effort, perhaps from Kate ? | 20:27 |
| djszapi | the meego summit app was written in qml for instance, so was the gluon player. | 20:27 |
| Sazpaimon | I know it has qt, I wasnt sure if it had the qt bindings for telepathy that works | 20:27 |
| djszapi | for N900, that is. | 20:27 |
| djszapi | I think it is always possible to port it easily, isn't it | 20:28 |
| Sazpaimon | beats me, I always used gtk/libhildon for maemo 5 | 20:28 |
| Sazpaimon | its much easier to work with in that environment | 20:28 |
| Sazpaimon | qt/qml is just kind of slapped on there | 20:28 |
| blueslee | djszapi: itsnotabigtruck: i have to work on the umlauts ... http://imageupload.org/en/file/179723/efa-on-n9.jpg.html | 20:28 |
| djszapi | blueslee: yes | 20:29 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: the meego summit app was cool in qml | 20:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | blueslee: nice | 20:29 |
| Sazpaimon | djszapi, its just a lot of qml apps for maemo seem disconnected from hildon | 20:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | is it an encoding problem or the font you're using | 20:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also i like the font but it doesn't seem to realy blend in with everything else | 20:30 |
| Sazpaimon | I'd also not use yellow | 20:30 |
| * djszapi would use pink | 20:30 | |
| Sazpaimon | the standby screen should just be all white | 20:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but the yellow looks cool...but again it doesn't fit in | 20:30 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it would be awesome if the clock was made to look similar | 20:30 |
| Sazpaimon | I'd kill for someone to come up with sleeping screen for harmattan | 20:30 |
| Sazpaimon | I had it on my N8, it was always an eye catcher when someone saw it sitting on my desk | 20:31 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: it does not integrate that bad either | 20:31 |
| Sazpaimon | the phone itself, notsomuch | 20:31 |
| itsnotabigtruck | sleeping screen? | 20:31 |
| blueslee | hehe, its not yellow, it should be orange | 20:32 |
| Sazpaimon | itsnotabigtruck, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE5pLjrivP8 | 20:32 |
| blueslee | and making the fonts bigger looks better, here is an example | 20:32 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: http://minus.com/mbk49nF2Kr#1 | 20:33 |
| djszapi | this was programmed in qml | 20:33 |
| djszapi | I think it looks cool | 20:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | whatever, it's orange-yellow :p | 20:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's whatever color the middle light on a traffic signal is | 20:33 |
| djszapi | there is no color apart from pink, dot. :P | 20:33 |
| Sazpaimon | anyway, Im gonna have to spend more time learning about telepathy | 20:34 |
| Sazpaimon | because I know next to nothing about it | 20:34 |
| Sazpaimon | and nobody else seems to want to do this but me :( | 20:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: lol. you might be pleased to know that weechat displays your nick in pink | 20:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also blueslee is blue | 20:35 |
| * djszapi has never understood why nobody did a telepathy based irc client yet... | 20:35 | |
| Sazpaimon | djszapi, telepathy-idle | 20:35 |
| Sazpaimon | its an irc client for telepathy | 20:35 |
| djszapi | no | 20:35 |
| djszapi | that is just a communication manager | 20:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | think he means a gui frontend | 20:35 |
| djszapi | someone needs to actually use it for an irc client | 20:35 |
| Sazpaimon | that would be complicated as hell | 20:36 |
| Sazpaimon | how would you send commands? | 20:36 |
| Sazpaimon | whois people | 20:36 |
| Sazpaimon | oper up | 20:36 |
| djszapi | well, if the irc connection manager was not designed for making an irc client frontend, that is bad ... | 20:36 |
| djszapi | since all the other telepathy connection managers (jabber, xmpp, sip, what not) are completely eligible for their intended plans. | 20:37 |
| Sazpaimon | because they're all IM clients at their base | 20:37 |
| djszapi | I cannot believe it would be that hard. | 20:37 |
| djszapi | not really. | 20:37 |
| djszapi | you can have conference stuff | 20:37 |
| djszapi | like in skype. | 20:37 |
| Sazpaimon | its still just chat in the end | 20:38 |
| Sazpaimon | IRC is a little more complex than chat | 20:38 |
| djszapi | so is irc | 20:38 |
| blueslee | djszapi: http://www.imageupload.org/en/file/179731/nba.jpg.html | 20:38 |
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| djszapi | Venemo_N950: o/ | 20:39 |
| Venemo_N950 | hey djszapi :) | 20:39 |
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| djszapi | how is heck ? :) | 20:39 |
| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, sent you a pm | 20:40 |
| Sazpaimon | also Venemo would never allow a telepathy irc client | 20:40 |
| Venemo_N950 | lool | 20:40 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: I advised way ebefore the irc-chatter project started. | 20:40 |
| djszapi | honestly, that was the first app I was missing :P | 20:41 |
| Venemo_N950 | I haven't got a single clue about telepathy. sorry. | 20:41 |
| djszapi | I have been missing that ... like for 1-2 years. | 20:41 |
| djszapi | never understood why Nokia did not provide one. | 20:41 |
| djszapi | rzr: do you know how c-obs build packages ? with -jX X = ? | 20:42 |
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| Venemo_N950 | however, after the refactor, it'll be dead easy to add a telepathy backend to irc-chatter if someone that has a clue cares enough | 20:43 |
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| djszapi | rzr: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=kdelibs&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan | 20:45 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | for what it's worth i think empathy has a moderately functional chat interface | 21:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and empathy = all telepathy | 21:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so there has to be a way to implement a functional irc client on top of telepathy-idle | 21:42 |
| djszapi | mmmh, c-obs build only just on one core...that is prolly not nifty :) | 21:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hmm, is anyone else getting a redirect loop on http | 21:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | *http://apps.formeego.org/ | 21:45 |
| djszapi | The page isn't redirecting properly | 21:45 |
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| djszapi | is it possible to create an empty tarball without nay files ? | 21:55 |
| djszapi | any* | 21:55 |
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| djszapi | tar cvf your-empty-tar-filename.tar --files-from /dev/null -> ohh sure | 21:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: tar -cfT blah.tar /dev/null | 21:57 |
| itsnotabigtruck | from http://blog.nqzero.com/2010/08/creating-empty-tar-cowardly-refusing-to.html | 21:57 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | looks like you found basically the same thing | 21:57 |
| djszapi | yes, I need to have such a hackery to port meta-kde to harmattan | 21:58 |
| djszapi | which is a native package containing only debian folder. | 21:58 |
| djszapi | format 3.0, that is | 21:58 |
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| Guest7144 | anybody knows about pr1.2 release? | 22:06 |
| djszapi | yes | 22:06 |
| Guest7144 | did you know when it will be release? | 22:07 |
| djszapi | yeah, but not public information, sorry. | 22:07 |
| djszapi | heh, the spammy "No AEGIS_HASH_FDS environment" c-obs message is still present. | 22:08 |
| Guest7144 | it's ok, by the way I want to buy the n9 white, looks beautiful | 22:08 |
| Guest7144 | mine is black | 22:09 |
| djszapi | black is scary :P | 22:09 |
| Guest7144 | and also I like the cyan color too | 22:10 |
| Guest7144 | beside n9 apps, nokia store and n9 fan club where can I find more apps for my n9 | 22:11 |
| djszapi | rzr: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=libgcrypt11&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan -> what the heck is this man ? :) | 22:11 |
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| Guest7144 | cant open that file | 22:17 |
| Guest7144 | or page | 22:17 |
| Guest7144 | not.on my.phone | 22:18 |
| Guest7144 | I will try on my.laptop | 22:18 |
| Guest7144 | thanks | 22:18 |
| djszapi | it was not for you lol | 22:18 |
| faenil | can you read me guys | 22:20 |
| faenil | ? | 22:20 |
| Guest7144 | ok sorry | 22:23 |
| djszapi | faenil: no | 22:24 |
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| faenil | good | 22:29 |
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| djszapi | rzr: I fixed the grantlee package. It kept failing. | 23:51 |
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| SqRt7744 | I'm having a problem connecting signals from QML to slots in c++. I've posted the offending code here http://codepad.org/y1eEfFNu ...at line 67-70, I'm getting "Object::connect: No such signal PageStackWindow_QMLTYPE_18::signalLanguageChanged(QString)" Does anyone see an obvious problem?? | 23:53 |
| djszapi | SqRt7744: why not just call a slot from qml ? | 23:54 |
| djszapi | in the signal handler, that is. | 23:54 |
| SqRt7744 | djszapi, how is that easier? | 23:54 |
| djszapi | would work oob ? | 23:55 |
| SqRt7744 | djszapi, do you mean, just call the c++ function from QML? | 23:57 |
| djszapi | call the slot. | 23:58 |
| djszapi | SqRt7744: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml#L41 | 23:59 |
| djszapi | I call a property setter here indirectly for language selection | 23:59 |
| djszapi | just call your slot there. | 23:59 |
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