IRC log of #harmattan for Friday, 2012-02-10

jpwhitingI put my new and in bin00:00
djszapiand ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH} at the end00:00
jpwhitingah, right00:00
djszapiI do not use symlinks fwiw00:00
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djszapijust one "*.so*" and that is all.00:00
jpwhitingah, without all the numbers, yeah, that makes sense00:00
artemmaj/me spent half of today trying to figure out qtmock and failed. Too many macros, too little docs00:00
artemmaany experienced Qt developers interested in easy automated testing here?00:01
djszapijpwhiting: this is my kanagram rules file:
djszapiartemma: I was checking out qtmock one year ago00:01
djszapibut I decided to write my own mock subclass for my test case.00:02
artemmadjszapi: go ahead, I am all ears00:02
djszapiwhen I had to test an abstract base class functionality.00:02
artemmalast commits in qtmock are from august 201100:02
djszapijpwhiting: so what I wanted to show is that, I use the major version for some reason00:02
jpwhitingdjszapi: hmm, I should put the .so.0 or the .so file?00:02
djszapinot the pure .so directly.00:02
djszapiwell, my way works :P00:02
djszapitry to resemble first.00:02
jpwhitingok, I'll do that then00:02
djszapibut first try to export it explicitely.00:03
djszapiso noone else overwrites it.00:03
artemmadjszapi: was qtmock working not convenient enough for you or have you failed to make it work at all?00:03
djszapiartemma: too much hazzle, and it was easier to make an mock subclass for the abstract base class00:04
djszapiyou know, all you need to test for an abstract base class is possible if you just simply subclass it00:04
djszapiso I did not need a mock framework after all00:04
artemmaoh.. then I misunderstood the approach probably. I though I inject a couple of macros and it will magically intercept calls via meta-objects00:04
djszapiwhat do you need a mock framework for ?00:05
djszapiperhaps you could also avoid it ?00:05
artemmaI am working with skype runtime now00:05
artemmaand would like to mock it00:05
artemmayou know: expect my code to call init(), simulate reply, etc00:05
djszapimakes sense00:05
artemmasurely I can wrap Skype objects into my own wrappers and supply FakeSkype during a test00:06
djszapiI did not have such a complex scenario00:06
jpwhitingdjszapi: hmm, when it installs the package, my script is not executable :/00:06
artemmato my understanding that's the primary reason for mocks to exist: replace time/resource consuming stuff with automatically created fakes00:06
djszapijpwhiting: yes, check out my postinst script00:07
jpwhitingthe script is executable on my dev system though, do I need some special stuff in the manifest to keep exe permissions?00:07
artemmasame would go for filesystem stuff as well. E.g. you could mock file access00:07
djszapichmod +x /opt/kanagram/bin/kanagram.sh00:07
djszapiartemma: yes, but do not mix with stub :)00:07
jpwhitingdjszapi: postinst script?00:08
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: that shouldn't be necessary...00:08
itsnotabigtruckuse install -mode from your makefile install target00:08
artemmadjszapi: well, anyway. I failed to figure qtmock myself, was looking for help. Maybe next time :)00:08
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: well, it is way easier than patching the makefile00:08
djszapiand since you can have chmod credential, I do not see it a real problem00:09
djszapiand I had to use postinst script anyway because of restarting pulse00:09
itsnotabigtrucki don't understand how your simple game can possibly be this complicated...00:09
djszapijpwhiting: this is my postinst script:
djszapiwhat is complicated in a chmod ?00:10
djszapishall I really patch makefiles instead ?00:10
djszapiI do not live in the 90s sorry00:10
itsnotabigtruckalso just because aegis allows something doesn't mean it should be done :p aegis makes it super easy to make almost anything you install setuid root00:10
itsnotabigtruckdoesn't mean it's a good idea00:10
djszapiit is the best idea imho00:11
jpwhitingitsnotabigtruck: what's another way to make a shell script executable?00:11
djszapiartemma: that is what I did:
djszapiartemma: to avoid the qtmock usage :)00:11
itsnotabigtruckjpwhiting: you make it +x when you build the package so that it gets installed executable to begin with00:11
griitsnotabigtruck: This does not always seem to work00:12
griitsnotabigtruck: All my binaries are +x'ed on my hdd but I have to do "chmod +x" in the postinst script, too for harmatatn00:12
djszapiexactly, and the easiest way is the postinst script00:13
jpwhitingit's +x here also00:13
jpwhitingon my hd anyway00:13
djszapiyou do not need to know makefile, nor debian packaging syntax for the rule file with different build ways, like dh and the other00:13
djszapijpwhiting: do not worry, many people do this in postinst, even kalgebra afaik :)00:13
djszapiimo, blinken too00:14
* gri even does evil symbolic links in postinst00:14
djszapigri: I think it is viable in the rules file00:14
djszapiyou just need to know the debian packaging rules00:14
djszapiwhen to execute it precisely.00:14
jpwhitingdjszapi: just put a projectname.postinst file with similar syntax? do I need to add to the rules file to use my .postinst file?00:14
djszapibut honestly...why bother if postinst works oob ? :)00:14
djszapijpwhiting: you can even use simply /00:15
djszapidebian/postinst if you have only one package00:15
djszapibut projectname.postinst is good yeah00:15
jpwhitingdjszapi: then I need to put something about chmod in my manifest file?00:16
djszapinope, that is allowed00:16
djszapido not forget to exit with zero00:16
jpwhitingand the projectname.postinst will be executed automatically? or I need to tell the rules file about it?00:16
grichmod'ding an binary that did not come with a .deb file will not be allowed by aegis :)00:17
djszapimaintainer scripts run automatically.00:17
djszapiit is like a callback you know.00:17
gri(well, chmod'ding will be allowed but executing it not)00:17
jpwhitinggri: this file comes from the .deb, so it should be fine00:17
djszapigri: but chown will with developer00:17
djszapiinterestingly enough :)00:18
djszapijpwhiting: yeah, no worries :)00:18
griI just wanted to show a case where chmod makes no sense00:18
djszapinobody recommended not to package the executables :P00:19
djszapiespecially binaries.00:19
jpwhitingworked perfectly00:19
* jpwhiting tries to run it00:19
griwell, you can safely ignore my texts as the wine already won against my blood :)00:20
djszapiwhat happened ?00:20
grimy gf was too busy so I had to empty the bottle alone00:20
djszapiohh I thought you are 100 years old today :)00:21
grino, it's still 74 years to go until that00:21
djszapiwe are in the same age then :)00:22
grithere are I meant - my english can only become worse this evening00:22
djszapiwhat is the easiest way of converting bunch of xml contents to json with a javascript function that is supposed to do that ?00:22
djszapimaybe qml + qmlviewer ?00:23
djszapiand console.log, or how ?00:23
artemmadjszapi: Hey, I figured how qtmock works and tested that! Thanks for your code example, got me thinking in the right direction :)00:28
artemmabasically it's the same as your simple example + all these manually created mocks can be scripted from outside00:29
artemmafor cases when they need to return different stuff, etc00:29
djszapicool :D00:30
artemmaso I still need to create classes for all my fakes myself, but body of all the functions is pretty much just a call to a mocking framework00:30
artemmanow I need to think whether I actually need it :)00:30
ZogG_laptopi hate ovi store app00:30
djszapiany php guru here ?00:30
artemmafor simplest cases where mocked stuff always or almost always behaves the same, mock framework doesn't add much00:31
griZogG_laptop: the app is nice, but ovi store itself sucks :)00:31
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: only guru is good?00:31
ZogG_laptopgri: i hate the loop indicator =) the one that should be busy00:31
djszapiZogG_laptop: ofc no :)00:32
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jpwhitingdjszapi: well at least it runs now00:36
jpwhitingthanks for the help00:36
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djszapicool :)00:37
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Sazpaimonhey guys01:22
Sazpaimonmay I make an app request01:22
Sazpaimonone that has source code already available01:22
faenilguys, fast question, is the deepest reset the one you can call from settings?01:22
Sazpaimona port of steam chat to accounts01:22
Sazpaimonusing code from
SazpaimonI'd try and figure it out but >.NET01:23
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faenilbest way to hardreset n901:30
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JackaLXfaenil: are you trying to fix a problem (bricked device), or are you just wanting to reset back to factory defaults and/or erase your settings and personal data?01:39
faeniljust want to reset coz I'm selling it ;)01:40
JackaLXLook in Settings -> Reset01:40
faenilok that's what I was referring to01:40
faenilis that enough? can I trust it?01:41
djszapino, it will eat your banana xD01:41
JackaLXWell, try it and then check that all your data is gone01:41
faenildjszapi: lol01:41
JackaLXand hide your bananas :-)01:41
faenilJackaLX: that's not reliable :D01:41
JackaLXyeah, bananas do have a nasty habit of coming out of hiding right when you don't want them to01:43
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itsnotabigtruckfaenil: have you reset it yet?02:12
itsnotabigtrucki'd recommend using flasher to sanitize it02:12
itsnotabigtruckit has a secure erase option02:12
itsnotabigtrucki'm not sure whether the reset option is to be trusted, it's for casuals02:12
faenilitsnotabigtruck: yeah that's what I meant, but I guess the settings things does the same, it's taking ages02:14
itsnotabigtruckfaenil: it doesn't, afaik it runs a series of scripts to remove certain types of data02:15
itsnotabigtruckit doesn't secure erase, and it doesn't get rid of all data02:15
itsnotabigtruckyou really want to use the flasher option, if i understand correctly02:16
faenilmm ok02:16
faenilisn't there any oneclickflasher for 1.1?02:16
itsnotabigtrucki think so...02:16
itsnotabigtruckif you have the image file you can just use the current flasher with it02:17
faenilI dont..02:17
itsnotabigtruckoneclickflasher = flasher + an image in a self-extractor02:17
faenilI updated via oat02:17
faenilyeah I know, plus a bat file02:17
faenilbut I could not find neither the image nor the oneclick for N9 (if not via navifirm02:18
itsnotabigtrucksince it's a 950 why not just put 1.2 on it02:18
itsnotabigtruckoh, this is an n9?02:18
faenilno, I'm selling the n902:18
itsnotabigtruckuse navifirm02:18
faeniland keeping the N950, which I can't sell coz of agreement02:18
faenilnavifirm is windows-only, isn't it?02:19
itsnotabigtruckthen download the script (admiral0?) made02:19
itsnotabigtrucki tested navifirm 0.1 on mono 2.0, it worked except that mono defaults to not allow any ca certificates at all02:19
itsnotabigtruckmeaning ssl on mono doesn't work without extraordinary measures02:20
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itsnotabigtruckbecause the tool to install certificates into mono doesn't even ship with mono :/02:20
itsnotabigtruckanyway, find the script and use that02:20
itsnotabigtruckactually, hold on02:20
djszapifaenil: you can extract it any time02:21
itsnotabigtruckthere's a website that does the same thing as navifirm now02:21
djszapiyou can grab the pure contents.02:21
faenildjszapi: what are you talking about?02:21
djszapiwell, the image you can download is self-contained02:21
djszapiI mean the binary that you just need to run02:21
faenilyeah I know that02:21
djszapiwhat is the problem then ?02:21
faenilthat I can't find 1.1 image online02:22
djszapiAlso, I would just reflash it to stock state02:22
djszapisince that is how people buy phones anyway02:22
itsnotabigtruckfaenil ^ there you go02:22
faenilthanks itsnotabigtruck, I did not know there was a website now for that :)02:22
faenildjszapi: there's no 1.1 image online :P02:22
faenilonly on navifirm02:22
djszapiyou do not need02:22
djszapiyou need a one time flasher if it is not already PR1.2 on your phone02:23
djszapiwell, why would you need ?02:23
djszapiwhy not use the flasher they give officially ?02:23
faenilbecause I need to use the flashed with erase secure option02:23
djszapiit is the state how people buy phones02:23
djszapiwhy would you ?02:23
faenildjszapi, you're cryptic some times :D02:23
faeniltell me what do you suggest to do02:23
faenilsuggest doing02:23
djszapiflash everything02:24
djszapithat is how people buy stuff, no ?02:24
faenilyou flash "an image" on "something"02:24
faenilsomething = N)02:24
djszapiphones do not get into shops with secure erase02:24
faenilimage = where is it?02:24
djszapiwhy not use the Nokia software for flashing ?02:24
Sazpaimon[19:18] <faenil> and keeping the N950, which I can't sell coz of agreement02:24
Sazpaimon*they* dont have to know about that02:24
faenildjszapi: ok, so you mean nokia suite02:25
djszapiSazpaimon: they do not, but what do you say if they ask back ?02:25
Sazpaimondjszapi, here's 500 euro02:25
djszapifaenil: whatever official glashing02:25
Sazpaimonwhich i assume you got, and then some, for selling it02:25
faenildjszapi, anyway, factory phones don't need secure erase, and guess why, because none should have used that phone before XD02:25
djszapinot sure how this secure erase came to the picture02:25
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faenilit's an option for maemo/harmattan flasher02:26
djszapiSazpaimon: 500 EUR what ?02:26
djszapifaenil: why would you use that ?02:26
faenilsince I'm selling the N9, I want to be sure data is deleted as reliably as possible02:26
djszapiinstead of reflashing everything ?02:26
Sazpaimondjszapi, isnt that what nokia is charging for lost N950s?02:26
faenilargh XD02:26
djszapifaenil: you wanna reflash everything then02:26
djszapiif you wanna make sure.02:27
Sazpaimonwhich kinda sucks02:27
faenilyes I want to!02:27
faenilproblem is, how from Linux?02:27
Sazpaimonwhat happens if your four year old flushes it down the toilt02:27
djszapiSazpaimon: how do you know, url by hand ?02:27
faenilyou said, use nokia suite02:27
faeniland I asked does nokia suite use secure erase while flashing?02:27
djszapino real clue02:27
djszapibut I would suppose so.02:27
faenilok, so that's why we wanted to use harmattan flasher + latest image02:28
Sazpaimondjszapi, its somewhere in the NDA02:28
djszapisince anybody can sell out the device, no ?02:28
djszapiwhy ?02:28
djszapithat is the hackery02:28
djszapiinstead of the official way02:28
faenildjszapi: the NDS says if you lose/break or whatever and they ask it back you have to pay 500€02:28
faenildjszapi: the official way is nokia suite02:28
faenilbut is there anything for linux? and does it erase securely? we don't know02:28
djszapijust for putting it clear:02:28
djszapiif you do not use the official way, your friend is not gonna have warranty02:29
djszapiare you sure you wanna that ?02:29
djszapiyou wanna void the warranty for him/her ?02:29
djszapiSazpaimon: link, please ?02:29
faenilitsnotabigtruck: my PC is not in the available list on the website :|02:29
djszapiSazpaimon: I do not remember I signed such a thing02:30
faenilno I don't02:30
djszapinavifirm: warranty void02:30
faenilbut the image is the official one02:30
djszapidoes not matter02:30
faenilwhy should it void the warrany?02:30
djszapithe procedure is not the official02:30
faenilflasher is official02:30
faenilimage is official02:30
djszapiI went through this many times02:31
djszapieven with a Nokia manager.02:31
faenilI trust you, it just sucks :D02:31
djszapihe confirmed manually what the flasher writes02:31
djszapiread the flasher when you use the navifirm image02:31
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: i should have known you were going to launch into a tirade about that02:31
itsnotabigtruckfaenil: just do it02:31
faenilahahah :D02:31
itsnotabigtruckthere's a difference between official and proper02:31
itsnotabigtruckflashing the image isn't official but it is proper02:31
itsnotabigtruckand nokia has a strange concept of official02:31
djszapiok sure. ...02:32
faeniloh I forgot one thing, the phone doesn't have warranty since I have won it at devdays XD02:32
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: you could have a bit more respect02:32
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: and you could have a bit less pedantry02:32
faenildjszapi: no problem, there's no warrany :D02:32
itsnotabigtruckit drives the entire channel nuts02:32
djszapisaying "tirade" instead of "thanks for mentioning, I did not know" is quite arrogant02:32
djszapithe false things you spread is way utterly cumbersome02:33
djszapiread the damn flasher, and ask a Nokia manager as well if you cannot read02:33
djszapiwhat could I say ?02:33
faenil:) stop it guys ;)02:33
faenilthere's no warranty, so who cares :)02:33
djszapifaenil: well, it bugs me if that is the respect if I try to help with stating facts to get more information: "tirade".02:34
faenillet's not start any discussion, you can fix that in private ;)02:35
djszapiI cannot even imagine how there is no warranty02:35
djszapiyou lost that earlier ?02:35
faenilnope, I won it at devdays02:35
faenilsince I won it, it has no warrany02:35
djszapiwell, mine has, and I got it there.02:35
djszapi2 years iirc in Europe.02:36
faenilhow? can I check that ? I asked quim gil iirc02:36
faeniland he said there's a "friends" warranty02:36
faenilthey'll try to fix it, but there's no warrany02:36
djszapidid you sign anything about losing the warranty you are entitled for ?02:36
faenilbut there's no receipt02:36
djszapithen you have warranty02:36
faenildjszapi: but that's what I was told from a Nokia guy...02:36
djszapiyou do not even have the paper to the phone ?02:37
faenilpaper to the phone?02:37
faenilwhat do you mean?02:37
djszapiwhen you got, what the warranty conditions and so on02:37
faenilI was just given the box :)02:37
faeniloh, let me see02:37
djszapiat any rate: if you have no warranty, then you can hack the simple procedure out02:38
djszapithere is no real risk about losing any warranty02:38
djszapiwhat price do you sell it out ?02:38
faenilcrap it's written in finnish or don't know what D02:39
itsnotabigtruckthe fact of the matter is that it's an official nokia tool, an official nokia image, and in any case no one cares how the phone was flashed as long as it wasn't killed in the process02:40
itsnotabigtruckthere's the company line, and there's actuality02:40
faenilguys, please02:40
djszapiis that really how you would behave if you sell out a phone ?02:40
itsnotabigtruckthe company line is that so much as touching your phone without bringing it to an authorized Nokia Care(SM) outlet could potentially kill you/laser your cat/explode the planet/etc.02:40
djszapitake all the risks possible ?02:41
djszapiand tell the guy, oopsie I hacked the device inside and out02:41
djszapibut you surely have gurantee02:41
itsnotabigtruckwell, guess what, there isn't even such a thing as an authorized Nokia Care(SM) outlet in much of the world02:41
djszapiI hope I never have a business with you :)02:41
faenilplease both stop it please02:41
faenildon't start attacking one another02:41
itsnotabigtrucksuppose faenil downloads nokia care suite and uses that instead02:42
itsnotabigtruckyou'd say that's verboten and warranty voiding too02:42
djszapiwhy would he ?02:42
djszapihe has no guarantee02:42
djszapihe has just said...02:42
itsnotabigtruckit's also the precise same program that said Nokia Care(SM) outlet would use to flash it02:42
djszapiexcept the layer on top of that02:42
djszapifor which they do take the guarantee, but everything else.02:42
djszapianyway, it is not hard, basic reading knowledge needed.02:43
faenilokay guys I'm out02:43
* djszapi too02:43
faenilseen this situation too many time02:43
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faenilmmm the n9 already knows the date after reset02:50
faenilis that normal?02:50
faenilradio date receiver? :D02:50
ieatlintis there a sim card in it?\02:50
itsnotabigtruckthe clock probably keeps going across a reset02:50
itsnotabigtruckalso, like i mentioned, the settings menu reset isn't very comprehensive02:51
faenilmm ok :) strange, but ok :)02:51
ieatlintyeah, the clock is done outside of firmware02:51
faenilargh itsnotabigtruck, don't tell me that, I don't know how to download that freaking fw XD02:51
itsnotabigtruckfaenil: i pasted a link earlier02:51
itsnotabigtruckto a site that's like a web version of navifirm02:51
faeniland I told you my PC is not there :D02:51
faenilproduct code02:52
itsnotabigtruckoops right02:52
itsnotabigtrucklet me double check02:52
itsnotabigtruckwhich PC is it?02:52
itsnotabigtrucki'm guessing that site is using the same web interface navifirm uses02:52
itsnotabigtruckso that's fairly weird02:52
itsnotabigtrucki know what happened02:53
itsnotabigtrucki linked you to PR1.1.102:53
itsnotabigtruckwhich is only for me&a units02:53
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faenillike to make jokes! :D02:54
itsnotabigtruck  RM-696 NDT NORWAY CYAN 16GB < there it is02:54
faenilnorwey, lol02:54
itsnotabigtruckand yeah, it02:55
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itsnotabigtruck's a gigantic file02:55
itsnotabigtrucki really need to quit missing the apostrophe key02:55
faenilyeah :(02:56
faeniland servers are not very fast atm it seems02:56
itsnotabigtruckyeah, sometimes it can be really really slow02:56
faenilI think I'll flash it befor meeting the guy tomorrow morning...02:56
itsnotabigtruckthere's a separate server for nokia care suite02:56
itsnotabigtrucklet me see if i can get figure out how to get a link02:57
faenilabout the flasher...02:57
faenilflasher -f imagepath --erase-mmc=secure -F ?02:58
itsnotabigtrucknope, the cs and nsu servers return the same urls02:58
itsnotabigtruckbut you might want this one too02:58
itsnotabigtruckthat's the emmc image for northern europe02:58
itsnotabigtruckyou can probably flash it with a different emmc if you want, most of that space is for regional maps02:59
faeniloh crap :O02:59
faenilI think I don't have time for that02:59
faenilwhat if I don't flash it?02:59
faenilwhat's remaining on the phone?02:59
itsnotabigtruckthen the phone isn't necessarily precisely in a factory state, that's about it02:59
itsnotabigtrucktraces of data you've deleted02:59
itsnotabigtruckthough i don't know how secure flasher's secure erase mode is03:00
itsnotabigtruckprobably a lot more secure than the normal reset though03:00
itsnotabigtruckalso if you've messed with the OS much it might not be completely unmessed03:00
itsnotabigtruckand if you deleted maps it won't bring those back03:00
itsnotabigtruck(w/o the flasher reset)03:01
faenilnah haven't messed much with the OS03:01
faeniland there were maps on it03:01
faenilitalian maps03:01
itsnotabigtruckhmm, better put the italian emmc on it03:01
faeniland I've never had any important data on it, just photos and videos, so there shouldn't be any problem...03:01
itsnotabigtruckhere you go03:02
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faenilso normal reset has also deleted maps and games/apps that were preinstalled?03:02
faenili.e. erased mmc?03:02
itsnotabigtrucki don't think the preinstalled stuff is on emmc, is it?03:03
faenillike golf, nfs03:03
faenildon't know actually03:03
itsnotabigtruckalmost everything is rootfs except mydocs03:03
faenilmm ok so they should still be there03:04
faenilafter reset03:04
itsnotabigtruckyeah, they're part of the image03:04
itsnotabigtruckif you uninstalled them reflashing rootfs will bring them back03:04
itsnotabigtruckreflashing emmc will just do maps and maybe some other stuff03:04
itsnotabigtruckbut since you're selling it, it makes sense to make it close to factory-new03:05
faenilok...I thought additional games such as golf were in the emmc03:05
faenilitalian emmc is better03:05
faenilwell I'll just let it downlaod03:05
faeniland wake up earlier and flash it03:05
itsnotabigtrucki just realized that "row" in the product code names means "rest of world"03:06
itsnotabigtruckalso, related to that, the no maps emmc is only 300 megs03:06
faeniloh can I have that?03:06
faeniland is that still regional?03:07
itsnotabigtruckno, it's the non-region-specific variant03:08
itsnotabigtruckbut it's still for type 00103:08
faenilok... I think I'll use the 1.3gb one anyway, since I'm going to bed ;)03:08
faenilhave to wake up in 6 hours or less :(03:08
faenilcya tomorrow and thanks for the help :)03:08
faenilcrap I don't remember how the flasher works03:10
faenilflasher -F image -f is for image only03:10
faenilflasher -F image --erase-mmc=secure -f is for erasing03:10
faenilhow do I add the emmc image?03:11
itsnotabigtruckfaenil: hmm03:11
itsnotabigtruckthere's built-in help03:11
itsnotabigtruckdo flasher --help and do what sounds right, i think03:11
itsnotabigtruckjust be sure before you hit enter, lest djszapi's concerns bear out, heh03:11
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faenilhere it is, it's -F image -F emmcs03:12
itsnotabigtrucklet's see here03:13
itsnotabigtruckhold on03:13
faeniloh, but is this 40.4 the one of the OTA update?03:14
faenilor do I need to update it via OTA afterwards?03:14
faenilI don't remember xD03:14
itsnotabigtruck--erase-user-data=secure --erase-mmc=secure -F image.bin -F emmc.bin -f -r03:15
itsnotabigtrucki *think* that ought to do the trick03:15
faenilright ;)03:15
itsnotabigtrucksecure erase everything, flash, reboot03:15
itsnotabigtruckoh, and don't ever ota update it03:15
faenilI have already done it for the latest fw03:15
itsnotabigtruckota updates seem to have version numbers higher than nsu updates03:15
itsnotabigtruckso if you ota update to the current version, you can't flash using nsu/caresuite/etc. anymore03:16
itsnotabigtruckor flasher03:16
itsnotabigtruckso...i think that's a problem then03:16
faenilok he'll just get the phone as it is03:16
itsnotabigtruckwell, if it fails safely, you could try anyway...the risk is that it does the erase operation and not the flash :p03:16
itsnotabigtrucki've had too many garbage firmware updater programs do things like that to me, heh03:16
faeniland how do I get the phone back once the fw has been flushed away XD03:17
itsnotabigtruckyou could flash it up to PR1.1.103:17
itsnotabigtruckwe're going up a notch in risk factor then though03:17
faenilI'll just leave it as it is, don't want to take risks the night before selling it :)03:17
faenilit's very late, time to go to bed, cya mate ;)03:18
faeniland thanks :=03:18
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itsnotabigtruckhopefully nokia won't cause that mess with the pr1.2 release again03:26
itsnotabigtruck(differing over-the-air and off-the-air images that make phones unflashable)03:26
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itsnotabigtruckout of curiosity, what's the output from flasher -i (show info) on an ota-flashed n904:15
itsnotabigtruckFound device RM-696, hardware revision 1603 NOLO version 2.1.5 Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4_PR_00104:16
itsnotabigtruck^ something like that04:16
itsnotabigtruckbut that's from an NSU-flashed n904:17
itsnotabigtrucknote that checking will cause a reboot04:18
itsnotabigtruckmy beautiful uptime, ruined :p04:19
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itsnotabigtruckhmm, it looks like newegg is no longer stocking the N906:16
itsnotabigtruckthey must have been closing them out when they lowered the price to $47006:16
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ieatlintthey probably just bought a pallet of them and never restocked06:40
itsnotabigtruckieatlint: heh, good point06:48
ieatlintthey did the same thing with the n90006:48
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djszapinpm: ping07:18
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djszapiis there a way of changing my ovi username without contacting the customer support ?08:07
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artemmadjszapi: are you kidding us? Email support is THE way for interacting with anything related to nokia development websites :)08:50
artemmaAnd for real efficiency you are to contact people you know personally, not via general email08:51
djszapiartemma: heh08:51
djszapiwell they picked up an insane username for me :P08:51
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djszapiwhereas, I can apparently creater a new user.08:52
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djszapiSupport website: shall it be the bugtracker or the website of tha pplication ?08:57
djszapithe application*08:57
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artemmaI'd go for nokia publisher support email08:58
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artemmathey seem to know where to direct not very related requests08:58
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artemmaworked a couple of times for me08:58
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djszapiartemma: you need to pass a website too09:00
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djszapithis is the entry: "Support website".09:01
artemmasorry, I don't get what you are talking about09:01
artemmabut that's ok :)09:02
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djszapiartemma: have you ever filled apps to ovi ?09:02
djszapithey do request you to give a support website ...09:03
artemmaSome 5-6 apps09:03
djszapifor the content in question...09:03
artemmaare, yeah, indeed09:03
befordi just put an url with a form in it :D09:03
befordi've seen others with just a link to the homepage of the project09:03
artemmanearly any web page works09:03
artemmaIt should just say something about your app and/or provide a way for questions09:04
artemmaI like using services like , etc09:04
befordI saw you got your app published artemma09:04
artemmamost of such services let you create one support site/forum for free09:04
artemmaI don't have many apps, so there are enough uservoice competitors for free support forums for my apps :)09:05
artemmabeford: indeed, last couple of apps were published just yesterday09:05
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* artemma was surprised to find two (2!) positive reviews for a paid version not from friends within hours after publication09:05
beforddid you manually check the countries to get the app published?09:06
befordif you check the 'all' at the top it doesn't publish it to China09:06
artemmadjszapi: go to my ovi store publisher page, click through my apps and visit their support pages. Then you can choose -
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artemmasome apps are for Symbian only, so you may like to deselect the phone model09:07
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artemmabeford: that's a gimmik. I mean the workaround takes two clicks :)09:07
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djszapialready uploaded my stuff09:08
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artemmathey just had to put this thing for legal reasons09:08
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artemmadjszapi: congrats!09:08
artemmawhat's the app?09:08
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befordi've got like 30 chinese customers (which gives the same amount of euros that 3 USA customers xD)09:08
itsnotabigtruckbeford artemma: don't they exclude china because of some rather complicated requirements involving e.g. having a chinese front company09:08
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artemmabeford: my Daily Wallpaper (20K+ downloads) has about 90-95% downloads from china09:08
artemmait's the only major market where N9 was pushed for real09:09
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djszapiartemma: is it a problem to upload128x128 image ?09:09
djszapiI do not really 256x256 icon for instance (not I am not asking the screenshot)09:09
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befordI belive the 256x256 icon is used when browsing ovi store from desktop09:10
djszapiI do not really have 256x256...09:11
djszapiI mean not even higher resolution09:12
djszapiso I cannot scale the version 128x128 nicely.09:12
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befordwell they check the dimension of images, you will probably have to upscale it before uploading it or it will be rejected09:12
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djszapiit is not enabled to upload this way09:14
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djszapibut scaling up will not really make any good09:14
befordyea :/09:14
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djszapiheh: "Alert: Image must be square. ".09:16
djszapiit is really for desktop then :)09:16
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befordyea it sucks :D09:17
befordI had to do a lot of cropping of the screenshot to get it square09:17
itsnotabigtruckwhat if you crop a screenshot09:17
itsnotabigtrucker, just too late, heh09:17
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itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: apologies if i was being a bit harsh earlier09:18
djszapino worries :)09:19
* djszapi apologizes too09:19
djszapibeford: Alert: Image must be square.  -> still, even if I scaled the svgz09:20
befordgimp has this 'zealous crop' thing that removes empty spaces, I used it09:20
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beforduhmm maybe uploaded the wrong file? widht and height are the same?09:21
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befordyea, its ok 256x25609:22
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djszapibeford: zealous crop makes the 256x256 aspect ratio wrong ...09:24
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djszapiit puts into 230x256 state which is not acceptable by Ovi.09:25
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befordoh I meant for the screenshot, to try to get most of components of your application in the 256x256 screenshot09:25
itsnotabigtruckthat icon is definitely pretty blurry...09:25
djszapibeford: it is not the screenshot.09:26
itsnotabigtruckmight it be possible to try one of those "smart" geometry-aware scaling algorithms09:26
djszapiI already made that09:26
djszapithey ask for an "Image" too whatever it is.09:26
itsnotabigtrucke.g. the scaling filters that emulators use09:26
beforddjszapi, yes I know, sorry for the confusion09:26
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djszapino idea how to get a working image ;-)09:26
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djszapi -> here is the svgz, if someone would like to help me with this.09:29
itsnotabigtruckwait, you've got an svg?09:29
befordsvgz is scalable..09:29
itsnotabigtruckthen just rerasterize it at the right dimension...09:29
djszapiwell I tried scale09:29
djszapito 256x25609:29
itsnotabigtruckoh, maybe it's an svg with a raster image inside09:29
djszapibut ovi complained about this rectangle/square thingy09:29
djszapianybody is welcome for generating a proper 256x256 image out of that svgz :)09:30
befordthat's weird, try to remove the current image09:30
befordget out of the page09:30
befordand go back inside09:30
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djszapino way I would like to fill everything in again09:30
djszapisorry for that09:30
befordno you dont09:31
djszapipinheiro: artist help needed :)09:31
itsnotabigtruckthe svg scales09:31
itsnotabigtruckyou're using gimp aren't you09:31
itsnotabigtruckload up inkscape09:31
djszapipinheiro: how to make an ovi compatible image out of my svgz ?
itsnotabigtruckimport the svg, set the dimensions to x by 256, pad it out if it isn't square09:31
itsnotabigtruckrasterize to png09:31
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itsnotabigtruckvector graphics need vector tools09:31
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djszapiI did that09:32
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djszapiand that was not acceptable by ovi as I said :)09:32
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itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: because you skipped the padding step i guess09:32
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itsnotabigtruckbut what you linked earlier wasn't scaled correctly i think, it was blurry09:32
djszapiovi does not care about blurryness09:33
djszapiand I did this zealous crop09:33
itsnotabigtruck"zealous crop" was a gimp feature, right?09:33
itsnotabigtrucki said to use inkscape09:33
itsnotabigtruckthere's a world of difference between the two09:33
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djszapibeford: your png is not good either: Alert: Image must be square.09:33
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: definitely.09:33
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beforddjszapi, yea, it IS good, I believe it is caching your old image still.09:34
befordit happened to me.09:34
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: I have never used...09:34
itsnotabigtruckmeanwhile, go listen to this :D
befordajax madness09:35
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itsnotabigtruckanyway, i wasn't aware gimp could even load svg files...i'm surprised09:35
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itsnotabigtruckbut what it'll do is rasterize it at the reference size when you load it, destroying the vector goodness09:35
itsnotabigtruckso gimp is a dead end path09:35
djszapibeford: Does your content adhere to Content Guidelines? -> maybe because of the "Yes" answer here ?09:36
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: even gwenview can load svgz files.09:36
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: the point is that gimp is a raster editor09:36
itsnotabigtruckand it's irrelevant whether ovi rejects blurry images09:36
itsnotabigtruckyour blurry image is the first thing the user sees about your app09:36
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djszapibeford: holy crap, I lost everything after back/forth :/09:37
djszapiI can fill in everything again *facepalm*09:37
itsnotabigtrucktbh it's been forever since i last used inkscape so i can't help you there though09:37
befordI did not say go back09:37
befordI said there is a save button there09:38
djszapithere is none ?09:38
befordlet me create a test item09:38
djszapiand it was not a caching issue09:39
djszapisame issue all over again09:39
djszapidamn... I did not think it is that hard to create an icon for ovi out of an svg :)09:40
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: well, what's the dimension of the image09:40
itsnotabigtrucki'm tempted to just do the resize to shut you guys up >_>09:40
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befordI did resize it09:41
befordwait I'm trying09:41
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: we both did resize.09:41
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: but what's the actual dimension of the png file you're uploading09:41
itsnotabigtruck(you are uploading a png right)09:41
djszapiI showed the link right09:42
itsnotabigtruckthat link is dead now :(09:42
djszapiit was 256x256 that you even mentioned "blurry".09:42
itsnotabigtrucki wasn't actually sure about the dimension though09:42
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djszapiany debian developer here ?09:43
Venemo_N950hey guys :)09:44
djszapibeford: btw, do you also check the "Yes" for that Contents Guidline question ?09:44
djszapiContent Guidelines*09:44
itsnotabigtruckbtw nokia has some very specific manuals about how to go through the publishing process09:44
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djszapiyeah, read that :)09:45
Venemo_N950djszapi, Puzzle Master has passed Ovi QA! :)09:45
djszapiyou said it last time too...09:45
itsnotabigtruckalso what's the debian question...i know enough to be dangerous :p09:46
Venemo_N950but it hasn't appeared in the store yet... :(09:46
Venemo_N950I know, patience is a virtue09:46
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: btw could you reup your thumbnail again09:46
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: looking for a contact address09:46
djszapithere is a debian guy I would like to contact :)09:46
djszapiwondering if he has IRC contact for instance.09:46
itsnotabigtruckoh ok09:46
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itsnotabigtrucki think most debian official business is done through addresses are all over debian packages09:47
djszapiyeah, I know his email...09:47
djszapionline communication is just sometimes way easier :)09:47
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befr0derm, not sure if you read me09:48
befr0d<beford> content created djszapi09:48
befr0d<beford> with the icon.png I uploaded09:48
befr0d<beford> are you sure the screenshot is square?09:48
befr0d<beford> I used gimp to make a square and it did a 829x830 image, got an error there09:48
befr0d<beford> had to adjust the canvas size manually09:48
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itsnotabigtruckalso djszapi: i just tested, it's trivial to rasterize with inkscape09:49
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itsnotabigtruckso load that up and do it right09:49
itsnotabigtruckfile > export bitmap...09:49
befr0dthat's not square djszapi09:49
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itsnotabigtruckuse width and height boxes to control dimensions09:49
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djszapiitsnotabigtruck: that is apparently not the issue here.09:49
djszapibeford: I used this command: gst-launch ximagesrc num-buffers=1 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! dspjpegenc ! filesink location=shot.jpg09:49
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itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: right, but once you submit it you can't go back09:50
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itsnotabigtruckbut what about the thumbnail you're trying to upload right now09:50
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itsnotabigtruckit doesn't matter if it's the issue if it needs to be corrected anyway09:50
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: I do not wanna go back09:50
befr0ddjszapi, you NEED to make the screenshot square09:50
befr0dlike, same width and height09:50
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djszapiitsnotabigtruck: I am not interested in correcting that because it is all fine with me.09:50
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: then you'll put people off from your app09:50
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djszapibefr0d: how to do that with gst-launch10 or any other available command ?09:51
itsnotabigtruckand if you don't want people to be attracted to your app, you might as well stop wasting your time now09:51
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djszapiitsnotabigtruck: I do not think that would have such a big effect.09:51
djszapiand as I said, I do not personally find it a too big issue09:51
befr0dhe can change the icon later if he wants though09:51
djszapiI think so, too yes09:51
djszapiwhen I have more time.09:51
itsnotabigtruckif somebody doesn't put in attention to detail when it comes to spelling/grammar, rasterizing icons, descriptions, etc., why bother with the app in the first place09:51
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djszapibefr0d: so how to make a square screenshot from cli ?09:52
befr0dyea, once it gets acceptad small changes get approved easy09:52
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: because you do not publish a god sotware in 0.109:52
djszapiespecially if it is simple to fix later like in this special case.09:52
itsnotabigtruckalso *this* is an application for that gimp feature09:53
befr0ddjszapi, I'm checking hold on :)09:54
djszapiitsnotabigtruck: I know inkscape09:54
djszapiand what it is good for09:54
djszapiI have just neved used, and I do not have time for it right now09:54
djszapiwhat is the problem ? :)09:54
befr0dinkscape is awesome though09:54
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befr0dI prefer convert/imagemagick09:55
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befr0dnever used gst-things :P09:55
djszapiwhy take the wrong screenshot and then convert, if we could perhaps take the right directly ?09:56
befr0dI dont even know09:56
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befr0dI took the screenshot with the app, and edited it manually09:56
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djszapiI am a console guy :P09:56
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djszapithere is also this screenshot-tool-qt09:57
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djszapior scrot in the community repository I packaged09:57
djszapibut gst is available in Nokia rpeository...09:57
djszapiso that would be the coolest way09:57
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befr0dcheck that for example09:58
befr0djust add the empty borders09:58
befr0dside by side09:58
befr0d(but it looks small and you can't really see anything there)09:59
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djszapibefr0d: asked on the internal mailing list10:00
djszapilet us see what they react :)10:00
befr0dso what I did was, use gimp zealouse thing and cropped the heck out of it
* djszapi needs to get up10:00
itsnotabigtruck i don't understand what ms thinks they're doing10:00
djszapi10:00, and I should work at Nokia, already...10:01
itsnotabigtruckwindows arm is going to be the worst of the iPad combined with the worst of windows for desktops10:01
befr0dalso, that small screenshot is just for the ovi page you will be able to upload an appropiaded ratio image later10:01
itsnotabigtruck(note the part where it mentions that compiling normal win32 code against arm windows is verboten)10:01
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djszapibefr0d: so could you create a square screenshot out of mine ?10:25
befr0dmoney money10:26
befr0djust kidding, let me see10:26
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* gri just took two screenshots and put them together in one squared with gimp11:08
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gri is also squared and looks nice :)11:08
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gridjszapi: Is it forbidden to add a new apt-url from my .deb when it comes over ovi?11:20
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djszapibefr0d: did you have any luck ?11:23
befr0d try ?11:24
befr0dalso, have you tried to use to create a harmattan styled icon?11:24
djszapiwow, that one is a really crappy modification11:24
djszapinot you fault, I know11:24
befr0dsome prefer apps to use the same style11:24
befr0dyea :P11:24
djszapibut I would rather prefer the extended square with empty space.s11:24
djszapiit breaks the reality seriously.11:24
djszapibefr0d: I do have icon according to the harmattan guideline, but that is not the question here.11:25
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gridjszapi: While waiting you could have done the image transformation with QPainter in 5 minutes :P11:28
djszapino braindead ideas pls :)11:29
djszapithose are worse than the marketing materials seriously :)11:29
griimagemagick also has commandline tools11:29
djszapiexcept that imagemagick is not available on harmattan11:30
griI thought you try it on a normal computer11:30
djszapino, that is not the best way for me.11:30
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djszapiI would like to take a square screenshot right away11:30
djszapinot taking a "bad" one, and then fix it.11:30
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grifor what?11:31
djszapican you rephrase this question ? I do not understand.11:31
grithose squared pictures are not even visible on harmattan's ovi store client11:31
grithey are just on the crappy website11:31
djszapiwhat do I care if there is a requirement for the format ?11:31
djszapiI need to accomplish it, that is all.11:32
griI just wanted to say: You will need both formats (squared and rectangular)11:32
djszapithat is not what the page says to me.11:32
griit will11:32
griwhen you submit the .deb, it asks again for screenshots11:33
djszapiand even if it said that..I do not see your point11:33
djszapiI would take the right screenshots directly.11:33
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djszapibefr0d: this is not acceptable by Ovi either: cannot believe it ...11:36
grisquare = 1x1, 400x400 ...11:38
djszapiand it is 1x1...11:40
befr0dyea, same width as height11:40
befr0dhow come 1x1 ? xD11:40
befr0d oh11:40
djszapiwhat wouldn't be 1x1 ?11:40
befr0dit is11:40
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gridjszapi: it is but maybe it's too big?11:41
befr0ddid not see the empty white bars11:41
djszapiread the requirements pls.11:41
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befr0dup to 2000x2000 yea11:41
djszapibefr0d: I do not frankly see the "Save" option you mentioned previously. :)11:42
befr0dit accepted it to me11:42
befr0ddjszapi, can you try just uploading an empty 10x10 image?11:43
befr0dyou can change it in the next screen again11:43
befr0djust so you dont have to reenter all the fields11:43
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djszapipng was accepted11:43
djszapijpg was not11:43
djszapihow weird.11:43
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djszapieven though the jpg size (53 KB) is way under the limit.11:44
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befr0dpng ftw11:44
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befr0dby the way ovi publishing seems to be under heavy load got that message a couple of times11:45
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djszapiI get messages every single day like that :P11:45
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frals ;<11:50
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djszapiwhat do you guys click on here ? The application works with all languages in the same logic, but are they more or less interested in localization/internationalization in here ?12:20
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pyhimyscan I import contacts on shell with lca-tool?13:08
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pyhimysapparently not13:10
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djszapithat is my writing :)13:16
djszapinot sure what lca-tool is ...13:16
djszapibut you can use vcardconverter ?13:16
gridjszapi: I selected "global"13:20
djszapigri: and did you have localization/internationalization ?13:21
griI have only english, german, french and spanish13:21
pyhimysdjszapi: vcardconverter seems to work :)13:21
gribut the program defaults to english13:21
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djszapigri: did it not fail at the QA stage?13:23
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djszapithat is strange.13:23
gridjszapi: No but there was something different13:24
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grithey asked back if it really is for global distribution since the description of my application mentions only providers for some countries13:24
griafter my reply that this is intended, they allowed global distribution13:24
grisince yours is a game, there should be no problem with global distribution13:25
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fralsdistribution != needs to be localized13:25
fralsim distributing everywhere including china and app is only in english, no complaints from qa13:26
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grifrals: Can chinese people rate applications in ovi store? I have never seen one rating from them. Do they have their own servers where we can't see the ratings?!13:27
djszapigri: you do not understand13:28
djszapilanguage != global distribution13:28
djszapithey are separate tabs..13:28
djszapigri: and I was indeed asking the language.13:29
griI have selected "works for all languages"13:30
djszapiyeah, me too13:30
djszapiI can grab  100-105 languages after if needed.13:31
djszapinot sure about the current state in KDE, but I would guess it is around that :)13:31
djszapiafter all*13:31
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griWow, not much conversation going on here today :)17:33
admiral0_djszapi is busy17:33
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djszapiwell no questions :)17:34
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radiofreeeveryone too busy hacking on 1.2?17:41
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admiral0how do i know when low power screen kicks in?17:57
admiral0and when it's not displayed?17:57
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admiral0<3 QMSystem18:31
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radiofreeadmiral0: there's a context property for the idle screen18:32
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admiral0radiofree: QMSystem::QDisplayStatus18:34
radiofreeadmiral0: ah, there's a Qt api for it as well :)18:35
l32606hi, does anybody if plugins of the status indicator menu are opensource, such as in /usr/lib/meegotouch/applicationextensions18:35
itsnotabigtruckl32606: maybe...18:35
admiral0l32606: or maybe not18:36
l32606i try to found them for a long time ...18:38
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l32606at least, they are not included in the sysuid package.18:39
itsnotabigtruckl32606: the file you listed is part of conn-dui-settings-bt18:39
itsnotabigtruckwhich i don't see the source of in the nokia data dump here18:40
l32606itsnotabigtruck: so maybe these plugins are all closed source18:42
itsnotabigtruckl32606: generally almost all of the gui is18:43
itsnotabigtruckwith bits and pieces as an exception18:43
itsnotabigtrucki thought it might be oss though because a good chunk of meegotouch is18:43
l32606itsnotabigtruck: how about, another extension.18:45
l32606and by the way, how can you find is part of conn-dui-setting-bt?18:46
itsnotabigtruckthat's system-ui-volume-nokia18:47
itsnotabigtrucktry it yourself18:47
itsnotabigtruckgrep filename /var/lib/dpkg/info/*18:47
itsnotabigtruckwhen it matches, the filename stem is the package18:47
itsnotabigtruckthen apt-cache show packagename18:47
itsnotabigtruckthe source line says which source package it is18:47
itsnotabigtruckthe nokia-provided source is a bunch of source packages, so check if it's in the list18:47
l32606i often get the source from, is it a correct way?18:49
l32606or i should use the apt-get source?18:49
Sivadoes anyone know how to read gconf values from qml or say The Publish and Subscribe API ?18:50
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l32606Siva: you can get the example from here:
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itsnotabigtruckl32606: search for sdk_sources_pr1.1.iso18:57
itsnotabigtruckthe harmattan-beta3 sdk repo is largely out of sync with pr1.118:57
Sival32606: thanks.. exactly what I was looking for!18:57
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l32606itsnotabigtruck: sorry but could u give me url:). i googled it and only got this:, is that right?19:01
l32606Siva: with my pleasure...:)19:02
itsnotabigtruckyou only got that because that's it, lol19:03
itsnotabigtrucknokia only sends their required source code release by mail, mostly to be annoying19:03
itsnotabigtruckso someone here requested it and imaged it19:03
l32606oh my...i think there should be an official public version...19:04
djszapiN9it was thr right way19:04
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djszapiN9and it had the proper reason why it was that way.19:05
l32606itsnotabigtruck: got it and thank you sooooo much.19:05
DocScrutinizer51l32606: YW, I'm glad my box is doing useful job :-D19:06
l32606DocScrutinizer51: i didn't konw it's ur website...19:11
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Sival32606: compiling with qmlRegisterType, results in "main.cpp:17: error: 'qmlRegisterType' was not declared in this scope19:19
Siva" ; Including QDeclarativeItem solves this.. however.. this thread says this issue should have been fixed in Qt 4.7.1 itself.. wondering how I am still seeing this in Qt 4.7.4 in the device..19:19
l32606Siva: i do include QDeclarativeItem. but i can remember if met your problem...19:31
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Sival32606: I meant.. in Qt 4.7.4 shouldn't qmlRegisterType be derived from QDeclarativeEngine..19:33
* djszapi never had such an issue even in qt 4.7.019:34
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djszapior what version was available one and half years ago19:35
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djszapiWill I get emails all the time from Ovi automatically if there is an issue during the 7-8 days by the time it gets published ?20:20
djszapior shall I follow the updates manually every single day ?20:20
befr0dthe emails take a while to arrive20:20
befr0dI belive mine was published a couple of hours before getting the mail20:21
djszapinot just about publishing, but any issues during the process.20:21
befr0dyea, same thing, they will mail you20:22
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ieatlintconfirmed: make a coworkers awkward by telling telling him you can't drive him somewhere after work because you have an appointment with a prostitute, and it'd cost extra if he came to20:26
djszapibefr0d: how much did it take you to get the package into ovi (published) ? Ovi writes 5-7 days, but people keep telling more, at least 7-8 days.20:28
befr0dyea it took like 10 for mine, first time it failed at the second day because it would not run on 1.020:31
djszapiwe tested against all the variants.20:33
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befr0dgood :)20:35
djszapibuild and runtime.20:36
deramanyone having problems with swype+terminal using alternative suggestions while writing20:37
deramthe original word is not deleted before the selected duggestion is written20:38
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bluesleehas someone else the issue that an event pops up in the lockscreen but does not disappear afterwards?20:45
bluesleecalendar event, incoming call etc ... reboot makes this event disappear but the next one will behave the same way20:48
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SindriavaHelp! I just updated to PR1.123:31
Sindriavaand i can't connect to wifi anymore23:31
SindriavaI connected23:31
Sindriavadownloaded 2 apps (after the update)23:31
Sindriavaand then i disconnected and i can't connect anymore23:31
jonnireboot you wifi accesspoint or device :)23:32
SindriavaI rebooted the device, it didn't help -_-23:33
Sindriavaand the accesspoint is fine23:33
Sindriavai am connected with my laptop right now23:33
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SindriavaI just select the wifi, it works for a few seconds23:33
Mekfor me existing connections to my accesspoints are often fine, but making a new connection only works after rebooting the accesspoint23:34
Sindriavathen a notification pops up saying it failed23:34
SindriavaI seem to have a VERY bad signal23:34
Sindriavajust the dot in the wifi icon23:34
Sindriavaand my laptop gets about 75%23:34
Sindriava(i am like... 6 meters away from the AP)23:35
SindriavaIt seems to have appeared after installing the Air UI app23:35
Sindriavaor the update23:35
SindriavaAnd it repeatedly asks for the wifi AP23:37
Sindriavathe list of networks pops up randomly23:37
SindriavaIt's _really_ annoying23:39
SindriavaAny idea?23:40
SindriavaThe connection WAS working. I downloaded 2 apps23:40
Sindriavathen it suddenly stopped working23:40
Sindriavaand the double tap wakeup seems to have worse sensitivity after the update >_<23:41
jonniwell uninstall those 2 apps and see if it helps23:45
Sindriavai already uninstalled the air ui23:46
Sindriavaand rebooted23:46
Sindriavabut a notification about it being disabled appeard23:46
Sindriavai think23:46
jonniyou need to uninstall the other apps too that it installs23:47
Sindriavai uninstalled the two i installed23:48
jonniair ui page has support email23:48
Sindriavaand now, in the Settings > Applications i see only the default apps23:48
jonni"Note that on installation you will be prompted to accept an additional application and restart the phone to complete the process." -> that says that when you installed air ui, it installed 3rd application23:48
SindriavaAnd where do i find it? ._.23:49
SindriavaIt's not in the app list23:49
jonniby asking air ui support email what dpkg -P command you must do in developer mode23:49
SindriavaJust great. Really.23:49
SindriavaI really want the phone working now, not when the air ui support wants to answer me23:50
Sindriavaand i can't enable developer mode23:50
Sindriavasince i can't connect to wifi23:50
Sindriavaand install the additional content23:50
jonniwifi isnt needed for developer mode, it can install it through gprs / 3g just fine23:51
SindriavaWho said i had 3g? >.>23:51
SindriavaIs the system really THAT unstable?23:51
jonni(hopefully you have your sim card slot installed as that is the wifi antenna)23:51
SindriavaWhat do you mean by installed?23:52
Sindriavalike inserted in the phone?23:52
Sindriavait's in, secured by the usb cover23:52
jonniwell if you have managed to mess up your sw by installing broken 3rd party sw, then its factory reset or uninstall the offending packages, or waiting for pr1.223:54
jonnior testing another wifi accesspoint to see if that is having low signal23:55
SindriavaI was standing right under the AP23:55
Sindriavai got to about 85% on the phone23:55
Sindriavait literally says "Internet connection not working"23:55
jonniwell that doesnt tell anything, I've had tons of AP's that have been broken, usually all my wifi APs break between 1-2years after I have bought them23:56
SindriavaThe AP works JUST FINE23:56
jonni6th wifi AP in 3 years for me23:56
SindriavaI am on it right now23:56
Sindriavaand the phone WAS connected on it23:56
Sindriavathen it suddenly disconnected23:56
jonniuninstall, reflash, or try changing accesspoints name and setup it again in n923:57
Sindriavai did uninstall23:58
Sindriavajust great >.>23:58
jonnior your ISP might have some connectivity routing problems that ping test to interner just happens to fail which return connection not working23:58
jonnior what was the other apps name that you installed?23:59

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