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| admiral0 | djszapi: you're gonna hate me... but did you try lpsmagic XD | 00:13 |
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| djszapi | not really. | 00:16 |
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| admiral0 | :( | 00:18 |
| djszapi | do not cry :D | 00:20 |
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| admiral0 | djszapi :'( | 00:25 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | heh, on my end it looks like everyone is talking to the air | 00:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: any lpsmagic news? | 00:46 |
| ieatlint | making a treeview in qml is a bitch | 00:47 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: version 1.2 is out | 00:49 |
| ieatlint | dare i ask what this lpsmagic is? | 00:51 |
| admiral0 | ieatlint: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1156548 | 00:55 |
| ieatlint | interesting... about the only thing i'd want on that list is the battery and date | 00:57 |
| ieatlint | so that works by replacing the operator image with an image you generate at a set interval? | 00:57 |
| ieatlint | would also wonder if that could noticeably reduce battery life | 00:58 |
| admiral0 | nope | 00:58 |
| admiral0 | generated every 60seconds | 00:58 |
| admiral0 | i cache images | 00:58 |
| admiral0 | and i'm now rewriting in C++ | 00:58 |
| admiral0 | read the thread | 00:58 |
| admiral0 | battery usage is minimal | 00:59 |
| ieatlint | bah, reading is overrated | 00:59 |
| admiral0 | ieatlint: lol | 01:00 |
| ieatlint | this makes more sense as to why you said you were looking to rewrite in c though | 01:02 |
| admiral0 | you see, it starts slowly and consumes RAM | 01:02 |
| admiral0 | it's because of python | 01:03 |
| admiral0 | and high niceness i set for the daemon | 01:03 |
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| ieatlint | using hal to get the data? | 01:04 |
| admiral0 | yes | 01:05 |
| admiral0 | you can read the source | 01:06 |
| admiral0 | i don't byte-compile the python script | 01:06 |
| Tronic | Pff, Nokia servers are damn slow. OCF download is taking 4-5 h. | 01:11 |
| jkt | now that's what I call a failure -- I have not noticed that the first FW link on http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ is actually the PR1.1, not PR1.2 | 01:23 |
| jkt | and spent like an hour googling for "why the hell it doesn't have any new feature" | 01:23 |
| ieatlint | haha | 01:26 |
| admiral0 | lol | 01:30 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | lol jkt | 01:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: so install it! | 01:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: just upgraded, let's see if this works | 01:54 |
| admiral0 | works ;) | 01:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also i need to see if my joikuspot hack causes a malf :p | 01:55 |
| admiral0 | i don't push untested debs | 01:55 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: what hack | 01:55 |
| * admiral0 is interested | 01:55 | |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: not of interest if you aren't in the us...it prevents adhoc networking (and therefore joikuspot) from being disabled when connected to a cell network in the 50 states and guam | 01:56 |
| admiral0 | i have just found a fellow to do a cammercial project for meego | 01:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which is supposedly due to fcc requirements | 01:56 |
| ieatlint | someone confirmed it happens in guam? | 01:56 |
| * itsnotabigtruck waits for the black fcc helicopters to arrive and/or an ear tumor to form | 01:56 | |
| admiral0 | lol | 01:56 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: nah but it's in the assembly :p | 01:57 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: malf | 01:57 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: what about it | 01:57 |
| admiral0 | you changed something in the bin? | 01:57 |
| itsnotabigtruck | nein | 01:58 |
| admiral0 | ah then it's not so sure | 01:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it didn't malf | 01:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also unlike the upstart script that turns adhoc on, this works all the time | 01:59 |
| ieatlint | itsnotabigtruck: what about PR or USVI? :P | 01:59 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: lol, i was wondering about that...it seems like they didn't include any of the other us outlying territories on the ban list for wifi hotspot goodness | 01:59 |
| itsnotabigtruck | so in theory joikuspot should work in puerto rico | 02:00 |
| admiral0 | just curious | 02:00 |
| ieatlint | meh, still not worth going to PR | 02:00 |
| admiral0 | would anyone be interested in a web ui for meego? | 02:00 |
| ieatlint | itsnotabigtruck: if you get it working well, i'll be interested though :) | 02:01 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: erm, it seems lpsmagic hasn't started yet after rebooting a few mins ago | 02:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | 18:06:47 up 11 min, load average: 0.00, 0.24, 0.33 | 02:06 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: did it start? | 02:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: nope | 02:09 |
| admiral0 | hmm | 02:10 |
| admiral0 | see if it runs | 02:10 |
| admiral0 | ps aux| grep lps | 02:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | nope | 02:10 |
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| admiral0 | /usr/bin/lpsmagic | 02:11 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: started it? | 02:13 |
| itsnotabigtruck | heh, didn't realize i could just run it | 02:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | thought it required restarting x or something | 02:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | https://crypty.ch/p/wAv3Vmf6#1e0deae0330a27c0fed9d794e2395238 | 02:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well that's peculiar | 02:14 |
| admiral0 | apt-get install python-gconf | 02:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it looks like somehow i lost python-gconf | 02:15 |
| admiral0 | fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu | 02:15 |
| admiral0 | my fault | 02:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh, did you drop the dependency accidentally? | 02:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | must have been autoremoved then | 02:16 |
| admiral0 | yep | 02:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i should have used dpkg and apt, which would have told me | 02:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i gave pkgmgr install-file a try | 02:16 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which doesn't offer any info about what's going on really | 02:16 |
| admiral0 | solved | 02:20 |
| admiral0 | redownload | 02:21 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: would you like something like this https://market.android.com/details?id=net.xdevelop.rm&feature=related_apps | 02:26 |
| admiral0 | ? | 02:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: hmm | 02:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's...strange | 02:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | could be useful but there's other ways to do most things that does | 02:28 |
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| admiral0 | i'd do the sms and contacts part | 02:34 |
| admiral0 | so linux people don't need nokia crap suite | 02:35 |
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| admiral0 | nite | 02:42 |
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| ieatlint | is it possible to convert a string to an id in qml? | 03:04 |
| ieatlint | by that, i mean i have a string in a variable that contains the name of a component | 03:04 |
| ieatlint | and i want to be able to use that string to reference that component | 03:04 |
| ieatlint | meh, just created a js function with a series of if/else statements that returns the right component | 03:11 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: since it's javascript it ought to be possible, i thin | 03:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | what if you try eval'ing it (of course don't do that with arbitrary values) | 03:40 |
| ieatlint | yep, that works... better than the js function solution :) | 03:41 |
| ieatlint | and i'm pulling in the data from a json source that is trusted and well formed | 03:41 |
| beford | I think I read somwhere how to remove the bottom bar from Qt apps http://beford.org/ole/20120130202915.png | 03:42 |
| beford | anybody knows it ? :) | 03:42 |
| ieatlint | only way i know is to switch from qapplication to mapplication | 03:43 |
| ieatlint | also, wrong domain for your link or your dns is broke (or, mine is :) | 03:43 |
| beford | must be yours | 03:44 |
| beford | :p | 03:44 |
| ieatlint | and just now started working... lagged | 03:44 |
| ieatlint | i think chromium has a shorter dns timeout than the host command | 03:44 |
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| Iktwo | Hi, I'm trying to make an app that vibrates using QFeedbackHapticsEffect, the app works when I run it trough QtCreator, but not when I run it on the device as a normal user | 04:27 |
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| Iktwo | could someone help please? | 04:27 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | Iktwo: maybe there's an aegis privilege you need to assert? | 04:32 |
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| Iktwo | itsnotabigtruck: thanks, I have found the problem, but haven't fixed it, if I launch with Exec=/usr/bin/invoker --type=d -s /opt/outgoingvibro/bin/outgoingvibro it doesn't work, but If I do just Exec=/opt/outgoingvibro/bin/outgoingvibro it works but then I can't set a single instance and a splash screen | 04:40 |
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| djszapi | Iktwo: what do you mean by "does not work" ? | 05:29 |
| Iktwo | it doesn't vibrate | 05:30 |
| Iktwo | if I run it with the full path it works | 05:30 |
| Iktwo | if I run it with invoker it doesn't | 05:30 |
| djszapi | Iktwo: have you tried different type ? | 05:30 |
| Iktwo | type? no | 05:31 |
| djszapi | is there anything on the console if you use the invoker command from there ? | 05:31 |
| Iktwo | no, there's a bug in the constructor of QFeedbackHapticsEffect it deactivates the debug output | 05:32 |
| Iktwo | so when I run my app I see nothing | 05:32 |
| Iktwo | even if there's an error | 05:32 |
| Iktwo | what type can I test? | 05:32 |
| Iktwo | I always use the default | 05:32 |
| Iktwo | type=d | 05:32 |
| djszapi | I use 'e' at least. | 05:35 |
| Iktwo | OMG it works if I use e | 05:36 |
| Iktwo | I tought I was not going to find the problem | 05:36 |
| Iktwo | thanks djszapi | 05:36 |
| djszapi | glad to see you happy :) | 05:36 |
| Iktwo | and what's that type about? | 05:38 |
| djszapi | e Launch any application, even if it's not a library. | 05:39 |
| djszapi | Can be used if only splash screen is wanted. | 05:39 |
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| djszapi | and it seems you wanna have splashscreen, right ? | 05:40 |
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| Iktwo | yes | 05:43 |
| Iktwo | it's funny just a letter in my icon fix the problem | 05:44 |
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| djszapi | Iktwo: in your icon ? | 05:54 |
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| Iktwo | djszapi yeah the launcher the .desktop | 06:01 |
| djszapi | ah you mean the desktop file, not the icon. | 06:03 |
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| Sazpaimon | trying to port lightspark to harmattan | 06:35 |
| Sazpaimon | getting a GL error 1282 during initialization | 06:36 |
| Sazpaimon | the relevant code is at https://raw.github.com/lightspark/lightspark/master/src/backends/rendering.cpp in RenderThread::commonGLInit | 06:37 |
| djszapi | have you tried to debug the gl error ? | 06:37 |
| Sazpaimon | 1282 is GL_INVALID_OPERATION iirc | 06:38 |
| Sazpaimon | its not exactly an informative error | 06:38 |
| djszapi | which is the invalid one ? | 06:38 |
| djszapi | maybe you mess up gl and gles ? | 06:38 |
| Sazpaimon | nah, its using gles | 06:38 |
| Sazpaimon | i guess I need to step function-by-function and see when the error shows up.. | 06:39 |
| djszapi | yes, of course. | 06:39 |
| djszapi | you need to localize what is an invalid operation. | 06:39 |
| djszapi | and then see why. | 06:39 |
| djszapi | Sazpaimon: I wonder if you have the time and sake (so the passion :) to test my app again. | 06:50 |
| Sazpaimon | yeah I can | 06:51 |
| Sazpaimon | i just need to do it alongside figuring out what is erroring out here | 06:51 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | awesome, one of my VPSes completely exploded :/ | 07:04 |
| RST38h | A video? | 07:05 |
| djszapi | RST38h: the video recorded exploded, too. :) | 07:06 |
| Sazpaimon | djszapi, looks like the first 1280 error comes from the glUseProgram call | 07:15 |
| Sazpaimon | maybe its being called too early... | 07:15 |
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| Sazpaimon | sorry, 1282 | 07:15 |
| Sazpaimon | something tells me the shaders wont work for harmattan | 07:34 |
| djszapi | they do | 07:34 |
| djszapi | qrc:/MainSettingsPage.qml:88:17: QML Slider: Binding loop detected for property "value" | 07:34 |
| djszapi | qrc:/MainSettingsPage.qml:139:17: QML Switch: Binding loop detected for property "checked" | 07:34 |
| Sazpaimon | djszapi, i was referring to the program Im compiling | 07:35 |
| djszapi | anybody an idea for this ? Seems a good logic to me: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml#L88 | 07:35 |
| djszapi | long story short: A property bound up to B, but if A changes I would like to assign that to B. | 07:36 |
| djszapi | what is wrong about it ? | 07:36 |
| djszapi | it is like having a slider and spinbox, and get them sync'ed up in C++. | 07:36 |
| Sazpaimon | hmm | 07:37 |
| Sazpaimon | no idea | 07:37 |
| djszapi | what is the qml way of implementing this logic ? | 07:37 |
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| djszapi | and even the logic works fine, and if I try to remove the binding loop, the program keeps non-working. | 07:38 |
| Sazpaimon | my qml isnt very good | 07:38 |
| * vladest would use: kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds = !kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds; on line 145 | 07:41 | |
| djszapi | vladest: why would you do that ? | 07:41 |
| djszapi | you try to hack around the problem, but what is the problem ? | 07:42 |
| djszapi | I do not see the problem | 07:42 |
| djszapi | also, that does not work for sliders. | 07:42 |
| vladest | djszapi: because I always uses like this :) | 07:42 |
| vladest | djszapi: and same for slider | 07:43 |
| djszapi | slider is not a boolean variable. | 07:43 |
| djszapi | so you cannot use that toggle hack. | 07:43 |
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| vladest | djszapi: value binds to kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime, on valuse change value set new kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime which set new value because of binding | 07:44 |
| djszapi | vladest: it means that it is better to use a property value | 07:44 |
| vladest | djszapi: I'm describing issue. | 07:44 |
| djszapi | understood and thanks. | 07:45 |
| djszapi | but property value is better for sliders | 07:45 |
| djszapi | but it is true, I can avoid that with a toggle trickery for the boolean switch | 07:46 |
| djszapi | thanks ! | 07:46 |
| vladest | djszapi: np | 07:46 |
| djszapi | vladest: just for making it clear: using property value is the way, a.k.a. temporary stuff right ? | 07:47 |
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| djszapi | not even property sorry, just global variable. | 07:48 |
| vladest | djszapi: i'm used onPressedChanged istead of onValueChanged in Slider in my app | 07:48 |
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| vladest | djszapi:dont remember why. may be because of stat stupid endless bibding | 07:48 |
| djszapi | vladest: you would need the value for Release though. | 07:48 |
| djszapi | well, it is the same issue for any signal. | 07:49 |
| djszapi | Pressed does not make sense to me | 07:49 |
| djszapi | Released would a lot in comparison with onValueChanged. | 07:49 |
| vladest | djszapi: no, for release I've just checking pressed property | 07:50 |
| vladest | if (!pressed) bla-bla | 07:50 |
| djszapi | not getting you | 07:51 |
| djszapi | how could you check against non-pressed inside the pressed handler ? | 07:51 |
| djszapi | also, I do not still understand why it is a binding loop honestly. | 07:53 |
| djszapi | value binds to kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime, on value change value set new kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime which does /not/ set new value | 07:54 |
| djszapi | since the value will remain the same. | 07:54 |
| djszapi | so why new onValueChanged signal generated, if the value does not change ? | 07:54 |
| djszapi | same question for the checked | 07:54 |
| djszapi | vladest: ^\ | 07:55 |
| vladest | djszapi: its called onPressedChanged | 07:56 |
| djszapi | and how would it be any different to "kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds = !kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds;" ? | 07:56 |
| djszapi | useSounds changes in this way which would trigger a checked change... | 07:56 |
| djszapi | according to /your/ logic. | 07:57 |
| vladest | djszapi: it means calling on any change of pressed prop | 07:57 |
| djszapi | vladest: but the point is that pressed is not good for it | 07:57 |
| djszapi | we actually need the opposite. | 07:57 |
| djszapi | as far as I see, there is only bug here | 07:57 |
| djszapi | and that is not in my application, but qml or qt | 07:57 |
| vladest | its easy: | 07:57 |
| vladest | onPressedChanged: { | 07:57 |
| vladest | if (!pressed) | 07:57 |
| vladest | { | 07:57 |
| vladest | videoPos = value | 07:58 |
| vladest | seek(videoPos) | 07:58 |
| vladest | } | 07:58 |
| vladest | } | 07:58 |
| djszapi | they should not generate onValueChanged, if the value does not change. | 07:58 |
| djszapi | and clearly, itdoes not change | 07:58 |
| djszapi | just inside the onValueChanged handler for the other property and no more | 07:58 |
| vladest | djszapi: I think you just starting endless sequence that I've described arlier by setting value | 07:59 |
| djszapi | will raise a bug against qml/qt | 07:59 |
| djszapi | why would I ? | 07:59 |
| djszapi | the value does not change just once, right ? | 07:59 |
| djszapi | the value of the "value" variable. | 07:59 |
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| djszapi | vladest: ^ | 08:00 |
| vladest | value is a property and it binds to a global property | 08:00 |
| djszapi | vladest: you have a hack for the slider and swich, I understand that. Imo, that is not the real fix for the issue. | 08:00 |
| djszapi | the real fix if the qml/qt guys fix the signal emit | 08:00 |
| vladest | may be. | 08:01 |
| djszapi | they should not emit it, if the value does not change. | 08:01 |
| djszapi | I will use your workaround, if it works, but we need to raise a bug for this | 08:01 |
| vladest | since its double its very inlikely it will not change just because of value drifting | 08:02 |
| djszapi | you mean ? | 08:02 |
| * vladest is not happy of qml couse its non efficient, slow and non-multiplatform designed | 08:03 | |
| vladest | but have to use it couse qwidgets are dead and no native alternative | 08:05 |
| djszapi | I am still not getting how you could have a non-pressed state in a pressed event handler. | 08:05 |
| vladest | djszapi: well. as I said: its signal depends on "pressed" property | 08:06 |
| djszapi | I see. | 08:06 |
| vladest | this means that signal generate twice: when pressed becomes true and when pressed becomes false., i.e. on any change of pressed | 08:06 |
| * djszapi is testing and raising a bug alongside. | 08:06 | |
| * vladest hates f&*^%^*g winter. -18 outside | 08:08 | |
| djszapi | vladest: also, your hack will not work for explicit value setting | 08:08 |
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| djszapi | the program will just remain silent and hard to debug wrt this | 08:08 |
| vladest | djszapi: you mean shitcher or slider? | 08:09 |
| djszapi | any | 08:09 |
| djszapi | but pressed is okay for slider, so that is the highest priority here. | 08:09 |
| djszapi | vladest: also, I am still getting it for obvious reasons: qrc:/MainSettingsPage.qml:143:17: QML Switch: Binding loop detected for property "checked" | 08:11 |
| djszapi | look at the C++ side, this issue is not existing for the aforementioned example QSlider and QSpinBox sync'ing. | 08:12 |
| djszapi | if you change the value of any of those, you will not get into a loop | 08:12 |
| djszapi | it is just a qml bug | 08:12 |
| djszapi | I do not personally see a way in qml for solving this issue, if they do not solve it on their own. | 08:13 |
| * vladest agreed | 08:14 | |
| vladest | ok, have to go, sry | 08:14 |
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| djszapi | please vote guys for this if you like it: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-23955 | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 08:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~weather EDDN | 08:36 |
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| DocScrutinizer | BRRRRR | 08:36 |
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| djszapi | Sazpaimon: for testing: http://files.kde.org/maemo/kanagram_31012012-1_armel.deb | 08:54 |
| mardy | ZogG_laptop: pong :-) | 09:13 |
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| beford | Hey. does anybody knows how to change the caption of the "Return" key from the QML Keyboard? You can see what I mean in the Ovi Store, Search tab :) | 11:05 |
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| djszapi | vladest: They claim it works in qml. It might be a qt-components issue then. https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-23955 | 11:14 |
| phako | beford: there's some docs about that but I forgot the location, try to ping mikhas in #qt-qml when he's there. | 11:14 |
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| djszapi | beford: what is wrong with the mesinput app ? | 11:16 |
| beford | no idea, let me see | 11:17 |
| djszapi | if you use that app, you can redefine the whole kbd as you want. | 11:17 |
| beford | ohh I see | 11:17 |
| djszapi | and it is for free from ovi :p | 11:18 |
| rantom | Hmm. I wasn't able to edit my keyboard with MesInput, the Finnish-layout | 11:18 |
| beford | but that's not what I need, I mean in my program, instead of showing the default Return key, I would like to show 'Search' , in the same way Ovi Store app does | 11:18 |
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| djszapi | beford: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/1486 | 11:21 |
| vladest | djszapi: voted | 11:21 |
| djszapi | vladest: I am not sure it is time to vote yet because it seems to be not a qml bug. :) | 11:22 |
| djszapi | it might be a qt-components limitation for that component. | 11:23 |
| djszapi | those components* | 11:26 |
| djszapi | beford: but the most important question, are you sure you need a custom kbd ? | 11:29 |
| beford | djszapi, hehe no, I just need to change the caption for Return button on the Keyboard for an specific TextField :D | 11:32 |
| admiral0 | hello people | 11:32 |
| rantom | Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it easier to exchange in Terminal between "arrows" and "shell"-commandlayouts (the ones on top of the keyboard) earlier, say, during beta2? | 11:33 |
| rantom | I have a faint memory that you could just swipe that section of the screen and it'd exchange to the other one | 11:33 |
| rantom | Or slide the keyboard so that you could get page up/down in portrait? | 11:34 |
| beford | djszapi, http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g6_D5flg23I/TpXMxnF6tFI/AAAAAAAABhw/mA3MC6RFSQY/s320/2011-10-13_01-20-21.png just like that :P | 11:36 |
| djszapi | beford I will ask internally for you. | 11:37 |
| djszapi | beford: so you would like to do this change from qml code, or are you fine with C++ code, too ? | 11:38 |
| beford | any of them would work for me :D thanks | 11:39 |
| djszapi | ok, asking. | 11:39 |
| djszapi | will let you know if getting answer. | 11:39 |
| beford | thanks, I think it has to be 'easy' maybe I'm not using the right words to search it, Skype app also changes the button to Next when registering an account | 11:41 |
| djszapi | it is not about simple | 11:42 |
| djszapi | it might be forbidden on will. | 11:42 |
| flux | hmm, AFAIK applications can (and should) change the 'return' key to whatever they need in their context. dunno how it's done, though :) | 11:44 |
| djszapi | beford: you are out of the luck, mikhas is not in Nokia anymore | 11:45 |
| beford | well I'll ask again later :P | 11:45 |
| djszapi | https://qt.gitorious.org/~mikhas/qt/mikhas-qt -> heh he is, just with Hasselman, and not Hasselmann, that is weird | 11:46 |
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| phako | djszapi: nah, he's there still; could be he's sick | 12:01 |
| djszapi | phako: not that, it is just the fact, his name is mistyped. | 12:04 |
| phako | ah | 12:04 |
| djszapi | beford: btw, the mesinput can do this, so probably possible. | 12:04 |
| djszapi | beford: SipAttributes.actionKeyLabel | 12:05 |
| djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt-components/qt-components-meego-sipattributes.html | 12:05 |
| phako | also, #maliit should be helpfull | 12:05 |
| beford | :D thanks that was it djszapi | 12:10 |
| beford | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Using_SipAttributes_in_MeeGo-Harmattan | 12:10 |
| djszapi | nifty stuff =)) | 12:14 |
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| faenil | morning :) | 12:44 |
| hiemanshu | morning faenil :) | 12:45 |
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| djszapi | zz_gri: ping | 14:39 |
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| djszapi | vladest: ping | 16:05 |
| vladest | djszapi: pong | 16:05 |
| djszapi | vladest: I have a skeleton stuff which is working | 16:05 |
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| djszapi | so no clue why it does not work in my app | 16:05 |
| djszapi | are you sure this binding loop caused issues for you as well ? | 16:05 |
| vladest | well, I can check | 16:06 |
| djszapi | vladest: main.cpp http://paste.kde.org/197330/ | 16:06 |
| djszapi | bindinglooptestobject.h : http://paste.kde.org/197336/ bindinglooptestobject.cpp: http://paste.kde.org/197342/ | 16:07 |
| djszapi | qml stuff: http://paste.kde.org/197348/ | 16:07 |
| djszapi | vladest: I only get t he bindingloop issue in the my application with certain properties of my exposed class. If I change for another property, or I make a dumb property int b: 0; and use that, I do not get such a warning | 16:09 |
| djszapi | vladest: any clue ? This issue is killing me :/ | 16:10 |
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| djszapi | vladest: so I get binding loop warning for this slider: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml#L88 | 16:13 |
| djszapi | for instance for the "hintHideTime" property. | 16:14 |
| vladest | djszapi: just checked with onValueChanged on my own project and no binding loop with local property | 16:16 |
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| djszapi | vladest: how about an exposed one ? (You can grab my bindinglooptestobject for that purpose) | 16:17 |
| vladest | djszapi: do you have ready project for qtcreator? | 16:20 |
| djszapi | no, just cmake based. | 16:20 |
| djszapi | I do not use qmake, nor even in the qt-project ;-) | 16:21 |
| djszapi | is qtcreator capable of handling cmake ? If yes, then I have. | 16:21 |
| vladest | it is | 16:22 |
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| djszapi | https://filetea.me/t1sc182b -> src | 16:23 |
| djszapi | https://filetea.me/t1s13932 -> deb | 16:23 |
| djszapi | https://filetea.me/t1s7218d -> dsc | 16:23 |
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| vladest | will check at home | 16:36 |
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| djszapi | vladest: thanks. | 16:38 |
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| djszapi | vladest: but imho, it is better to test the application than the skeleton itself. | 16:45 |
| djszapi | since the problem reveals only inside the application. | 16:45 |
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| torarne | Q: Anyone got sshfs working on harmattan, to mount a remote filesystem on the device for easy development? | 17:34 |
| djszapi | not possible on purpose. | 17:37 |
| djszapi | you wanna do the opposite actually | 17:38 |
| djszapi | you wanna mount the N9 filesystem on your host for easy "development". | 17:38 |
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| torarne | djszapi: not really suitable for qml, i don't want to copy files over | 17:42 |
| djszapi | you do not need. | 17:43 |
| torarne | um, how would that work? | 17:43 |
| djszapi | as a normal mount | 17:44 |
| djszapi | you mount the filesystem, and the qml files | 17:44 |
| djszapi | what is so hard about it ? | 17:44 |
| djszapi | edit* | 17:44 |
| djszapi | many people do that including me. | 17:44 |
| torarne | you keep your sources on the device? | 17:44 |
| * sp3000 hasn't tried sshfs in the other direction either, it sounds like work | 17:45 | |
| djszapi | torarne: yes, what is wrong about it ? | 17:45 |
| torarne | djszapi: i don't know where to start | 17:46 |
| djszapi | torarne: sshfs root@myn950:/opt/my-cool-app/qml qml | 17:46 |
| sp3000 | depends on how much yuour build would write there | 17:46 |
| torarne | sp3000: i've built sshfs and fuse inside scratchbox, but getting permissions problems when mounting, even on a device with rd-certs | 17:46 |
| torarne | sp3000: mounting nfs mounts on the device works fine | 17:47 |
| djszapi | torarne: also, please consider the fact people here mostly have no R&D certificate | 17:47 |
| djszapi | so you will not get such advices. | 17:47 |
| djszapi | but why not mount on the host ? | 17:47 |
| djszapi | why would you do that in scratchbox ? | 17:47 |
| torarne | djszapi: i meant, i don't know where to start in describing the many things that are wrong with that | 17:47 |
| djszapi | there is not much wrong | 17:48 |
| torarne | if you say so | 17:48 |
| djszapi | well, then suffer meg :D | 17:48 |
| djszapi | meh* | 17:48 |
| djszapi | this was my two cents about a way that worked for people so far. | 17:48 |
| djszapi | and please add your idea, if better, to the wikipage. We need that. | 17:49 |
| djszapi | and doing this in scratchbox sounds really weird. | 17:50 |
| sp3000 | it might not be too much trouble setting up something that rsyncs things over on an *notify trigger | 17:50 |
| * sp3000 forgets which initial is current | 17:51 | |
| torarne | :) | 17:51 |
| djszapi | sp3000: why rsync instead of just scp -r ? | 17:51 |
| djszapi | http://wiki.meego.com/RsyncAndRunShellScript#Rsync_.26_run_your_projects_on_the_device_using_a_shell_script -> here is the rsync fwiw. | 17:52 |
| alterego | sp3000: inotify ;) | 17:52 |
| alterego | torarne: if you've got NFS working fine, why use SSH? Seems NFS is better suited ;) | 17:53 |
| torarne | sp3000: nfs mount is working fine except it fails to re-rexport another cifs mount on the remote fs | 17:53 |
| torarne | i guess i should just export another nfs to replace the cifs and mount both on the device | 17:53 |
| sp3000 | that sounds like a cluster...mount :P | 17:53 |
| torarne | alterego: "nfs mount is working fine except it fails to re-rexport another cifs mount on the remote fs" | 17:53 |
| torarne | :P | 17:53 |
| alterego | torarne: also, I'd be interested in the steps you took to get NFS (hopefully on a non R&D device) | 17:53 |
| alterego | to work | 17:54 |
| alterego | NFS would be useful for me to mount my home NAS drive :D | 17:54 |
| djszapi | alterego: have not checked the qt5 instructions ? | 17:55 |
| djszapi | they use nfs as well. | 17:55 |
| torarne | alterego: its on a RD-device, but these guys are doing some work to get it working on non-RD-devices: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/SettingUpDevelopmentEnvironmentForN9 (custom kernel) | 17:55 |
| alterego | Urgh, custom kernel. | 17:56 |
| alterego | Don't want instructions that voids people's warrantys ;) | 17:56 |
| torarne | yupp | 17:56 |
| alterego | Next solution please :) | 17:56 |
| alterego | Doesn't really matter to me, I have my N950 for warranty voiding activities. | 17:57 |
| alterego | But I'd rather not do that to my N9 :) | 17:57 |
| djszapi | I would, after the warranty is gone before the expired time-limit. | 17:57 |
| djszapi | after* | 17:57 |
| admiral0 | i'll eventually do that... | 17:57 |
| admiral0 | i want iptables mangle | 17:57 |
| admiral0 | and nat :P | 17:58 |
| alterego | It'd be nice if Nokia included that stuff in the first place, did they not learn anything from kernel power? :) | 17:58 |
| alterego | If we don't have iptables how does the wi-fi hotspot work? | 17:59 |
| alterego | My N9 has iptables .. | 17:59 |
| djszapi | alterego: they do not have nat. | 18:00 |
| admiral0 | alterego: iptables -t nat | 18:00 |
| admiral0 | and you'll see | 18:01 |
| djszapi | how long is the warranty by the way, one, two years or even more ? | 18:01 |
| alterego | two years inside EU | 18:01 |
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| admiral0 | europe=2 years | 18:01 |
| djszapi | "Nokia backs up the Nokia N9 with a 1 Year parts & labour warranty." | 18:02 |
| alterego | Probably 1 year outside. | 18:02 |
| alterego | djszapi: that's probably in Australia or something. | 18:02 |
| alterego | In the EU it's 2 years. | 18:02 |
| admiral0 | warranty: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/101/781/Y0UJC.png | 18:03 |
| djszapi | http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/Nokia-N9-Warranty-UAE-Dubai-Abu-Dhabi-amp-Worldwide/td-p/1212623 | 18:03 |
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| djszapi | alterego: if I got it in the EU, or if I live inside the EU ? | 18:03 |
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| djszapi | admiral0: at least your teeth are nicely white :) | 18:03 |
| alterego | Both, but if you only bought it in the EU, you'd have to get them to pick it up and ship it to an address in the EU | 18:04 |
| djszapi | going into the shop directly. | 18:04 |
| djszapi | say, business trip. | 18:04 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | does anybody know the warranty terms for latin america | 18:06 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | i dug around the nokia latinoamerica website for a while and couldn't find much besides 'look at the slip in the box' | 18:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and the box happens to be on the other end of the country right now | 18:06 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | also strange, newegg kicked its n9 cyan price back up to $700 (from $520) | 18:10 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: eternal warranty =) | 18:10 |
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| ZogG_laptop | what can be wrong in this - connect(networkManager, SIGNAL(uploadProgress(qint64,qint64)), this, SLOT(progresscalc(qint64,qint64))); | 18:26 |
| djszapi | do you get runtime warning/error ? | 18:27 |
| djszapi | or compilation time ? | 18:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | can;'t compile =\ | 18:27 |
| djszapi | can you show the g++ output ? | 18:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | /home/zogg/projects/imgrup-build-harmattan-Harmattan_Target__Qt_SDK__Debug/moc_upload.cpp:87: undefined reference to `Upload::progresscalc(long long, long long)' | 18:28 |
| djszapi | it did compile. | 18:28 |
| djszapi | it does not link, and what provides this Upload class ? | 18:28 |
| djszapi | which library ? | 18:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's mine | 18:29 |
| djszapi | have you linked agaisnt your stuff ? | 18:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | void progresscalc(qint64 sent, qint64 total); this is in public slot | 18:29 |
| djszapi | can you show your "full" output and code ? | 18:30 |
| djszapi | long long and qint64 mmmh... | 18:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | wait | 18:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | just a sec | 18:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok it was me stupid - resolved it =0 | 18:31 |
| djszapi | right :) | 18:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | but thanks - you gave a clue, forgot to use Upload::progresscalc | 18:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | used void progresscal instead =P | 18:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | lol still error on runtime | 18:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | Object::connect: No such signal QNetworkAccessManager::uploadProgress(qint64,qint64) in ../imgrup/upload.cpp:71 | 18:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | do i need to include QnetworkSession ? | 18:33 |
| npm | oh happy day! (well i shouldn't count my chickens till the n9 arrives) | 18:33 |
| MohammadAG | no ZogG_laptop, there's no such signal | 18:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | npm: mazal tov | 18:34 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: where do you see that signal ? http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/QNetworkAccessManager.html#signals | 18:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qnetworkreply.html#uploadProgress | 18:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | here ^ | 18:34 |
| djszapi | that is a different type of class | 18:35 |
| djszapi | you used networkManager | 18:35 |
| npm | ZogG_laptop: yofi! | 18:35 |
| MohammadAG | QNetworkReply != QNetworkAccessManager | 18:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | npm: don't say you speak hebrew | 18:35 |
| MohammadAG | apparently he does | 18:36 |
| npm | i did at my bar-mitzvah, and have relatives i can't understand except when they speak romanian | 18:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: so can i use acessmanager to track the progress? | 18:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | npm: lol | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | no, you use QNetworkReply | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | paste the code | 18:36 |
| MohammadAG | the one you need to track | 18:37 |
| MohammadAG | actually I'll give you an example | 18:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: i use access to read reply as well | 18:39 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, https://gitorious.org/qtbook/qtbook/blobs/master/albumwindow.cpp#line205 | 18:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: does it has post ? | 18:40 |
| MohammadAG | that's how you should track progress and read replies | 18:40 |
| MohammadAG | see 230 and below | 18:40 |
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| djszapi | alterego: do you see anything obviously wrong with this patch technically ? http://paste.xinu.at/W3icH/ | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | huh | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | QNetworkAccessManager::put returns a pointer to a QNetworkReply | 18:41 |
| alterego | Does the standard delegate not have any icon? | 18:42 |
| djszapi | alterego: oopsie, no need for an argument for that function. | 18:42 |
| djszapi | alterego: what do you mean ? | 18:43 |
| alterego | nvm, it looks okay to me, but that's just with a 10 second glance, I can't give you an informed answer unless I test it myself, and I'm a bit busy for that ;) | 18:43 |
| djszapi | alterego: isn't it better without function argument ? http://paste.xinu.at/dBoH/ | 18:44 |
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| djszapi | I was just copy/pasting the function from the ToolIcon internals, but it is weird they used a function argument. | 18:44 |
| djszapi | since it is currently not called with an argument, so no real need for that :) | 18:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: my post method is little bit dfferent, i don't want to use headers, but no i get total as -1 =\ | 18:44 |
| djszapi | but keeping the consistency with ToolIcon internals might make sense even if it is no use | 18:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | is it releated? | 18:45 |
| alterego | I wouldn't bother using it. | 18:45 |
| djszapi | ok, so without that then. | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | you don't want to use headers? | 18:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: http://dpaste.org/n4wrK/ | 18:49 |
| MohammadAG | I hope that QNetworkAccessManager pointer is deleted somewhere | 18:53 |
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| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: why? | 18:53 |
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| MohammadAG | cause it uses up memory | 18:54 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: just give it a parent. | 18:54 |
| djszapi | it will be done automagically. | 18:54 |
| djszapi | provided, upload inherits qobject for instance, you could use this | 18:54 |
| MohammadAG | it has a parent, but if the app creates a new instance everytime you upload then automagicallism doesn't work | 18:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: it works and i get sent data, but total is -1 - what means it can't handle the total size of data | 18:55 |
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| djszapi | MohammadAG: does not matter, if all of them have parents. | 18:55 |
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| djszapi | and Upload must inherit QObject since it uses signal then | 18:56 |
| djszapi | connection* | 18:56 |
| djszapi | though I would not know why one need to create new manager all the time. | 18:56 |
| djszapi | would need* | 18:57 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: sorry, but no time for debugging your code :/ | 18:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | =\ | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | djszapi, it does matter | 18:57 |
| MohammadAG | don't spread BS | 18:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: so any ideas why it doesn't know the size of sent info? total size | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | djszapi, he's creating a new manager for every upload rather than using it all | 18:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | don't fight coz of me at least | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | once for all uploads* | 18:58 |
| MohammadAG | we're not fighting, but your code wastes memory | 18:59 |
| MohammadAG | use one manager or delete it after you're done with it | 18:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | i use also downloads and sometimes few in a time - so i think that's the way | 18:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: for now i used only one | 18:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | at least there is one made as i didn't use other code | 19:00 |
| MohammadAG | the code you pasted creates a new one every time you upload | 19:00 |
| MohammadAG | that's not only one | 19:00 |
| MohammadAG | define one QNetworkAccessManager in the header or at the top | 19:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | and if i upload once? | 19:00 |
| djszapi | MohammadAG: for that, smart pointers are good anyway | 19:00 |
| djszapi | not manual deleting. | 19:00 |
| djszapi | that is why they were designed, but I am not sure I see the need for new manager all the time. | 19:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | but how is it releated that i have no totalsize? | 19:01 |
| djszapi | it is a different issue | 19:01 |
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| ZogG_laptop | that's the one i want to solve one =) | 19:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | after that i would try to optimize code | 19:02 |
| MohammadAG | djszapi, there's no need for a new manager at a time | 19:02 |
| MohammadAG | he's learning C++, so it's a mistake | 19:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | guys you right but still no help on the issue i have | 19:03 |
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| djszapi | even without smart pointers, you can assign a local qobject inherited instance, and you are good to go without leaking. | 19:05 |
| djszapi | I do not see leaking in that either, nor in smart pointers. | 19:06 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: I can help y ou tonight with debugging your code, if you still need help. | 19:06 |
| MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, what do you get in the slot? | 19:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: sent is proper number while total is -1 | 19:06 |
| djszapi | alterego: heh, I wrote "int" for a string in my previous commit (documentation), and got accepted. | 19:09 |
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| ZogG_laptop | =\ | 19:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ? | 19:12 |
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| secyritas | can somebody send me the /etc/init/ssh.conf >__< | 19:19 |
| secyritas | aegis locked me out.. :D | 19:19 |
| RST38h | !seen wazd | 19:20 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | wazd was last seen 9 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 8 minutes and a couple of seconds ago, saying 'Venemo: wazzup? :)' in #harmattan. | 19:20 |
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| RST38h | Yoooo | 19:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 19:20 |
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| _MeeGoBot_ | vasvlad was last seen 16 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, 33 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying 'I've uploaded the new version of Meecast (0.3.31) to repository. See details here http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4439&page=3' in #meego. | 19:20 |
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| djszapi | ~seen fiferboy | 19:21 |
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| RST38h | ~seen wazd | 19:21 |
| infobot | wazd <~wazd@broadband-95-84-185-178.nationalcablenetworks.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 66d 3h 9m 15s ago, saying: 'Venemo: wazzup? :)'. | 19:21 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw has anyone figured out how to neuter the mynokia phoning home on the N9 | 19:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | just found out about that the other day looking at the logs, looks like it was a big controversy back in the N900 days | 19:23 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | off the record | 19:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ~seen itsnotabigtruck | 19:25 |
| infobot | itsnotabigtruck is currently on #n9 #harmattan. Has said a total of 603 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen itsnotabigtruck'. | 19:25 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | heh | 19:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | off the record | 19:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it looks like infobot returns space-prefixed messages in ~seen commands | 19:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw people need to start using that more | 19:26 |
| itsnotabigtruck | RST38h: any idea about the mynokia thing? | 19:26 |
| RST38h | What thing? | 19:27 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | RST38h: the N9 phoning home with an SMS the first time it can see a mobile network | 19:27 |
| e0x | ZogG_laptop: sorry , yes i was hoping to browser but i think this will change the propose of the tool | 19:28 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | same scheme they put in N900 starting with PR1.2 | 19:28 |
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| RST38h | itsnot:And? | 19:28 |
| itsnotabigtruck | RST38h: well, there has to be a way to stop it from doing so | 19:29 |
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| ZogG_laptop | e0x: what? | 19:31 |
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| djszapi | jonni: what did you use the countdown.wav sound for ? | 19:33 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | is there a list of connection manager parameters for telepathy-gabble anywhere? | 19:55 |
| e0x | ZogG_laptop: sorry i was talking about how you can change what gallery is display in imgrup | 19:55 |
| itsnotabigtruck | because i'm not finding much :( | 19:55 |
| djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: have you tried on #telepathy ? | 19:56 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | for reference, there's a list of parameters at /usr/share/telepathy/managers/gabble.manager | 20:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | there seems to be no other documentation whatsoever | 20:22 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | btw anyone know how to make the N9 display a service name for a jabber (gabble) account? | 20:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | right now messaging and availability show a blank line where 'Google Talk' or 'Facebook' or whatever would appear | 20:26 |
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| jussi | is there any way to add google plus to the stream? (or is anyone working on it?) | 20:37 |
| djszapi | jussi: account plugin or something else you mean ? | 20:38 |
| jussi | djszapi: yeah, account-plugin | 20:38 |
| djszapi | that is what I found with a quick search: http://maemobriefs.blogspot.com/2011/12/meego-harmattan-meeplus-google-client.html but it is not an accoun plugin. Isn't it okay for you ? | 20:39 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Hi guys | 20:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I have some trouble using Community OBS | 20:40 |
| djszapi | what troubles ? | 20:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | like | 20:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ake[2]: *** No rule to make target `/targets/Harmattan-ARM/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. | 20:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | everything compiles fine on scratchbox | 20:43 |
| djszapi | do not use scratchbox | 20:43 |
| djszapi | use osc. | 20:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but on the BS it says that there is no rule to compile | 20:43 |
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| djszapi | I meant to write to test with osc after the successful sb build :) | 20:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ok | 20:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I use tarball produced by sbox | 20:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is that ok ? | 20:44 |
| ivan|home | anyone knows in which db file where harmattan stores smss and onther messages? | 20:44 |
| djszapiN950 | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot in sb ? | 20:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ivan|home: it is the tracker store | 20:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yes | 20:44 |
| ivan|home | Sfiet_Konstantin: thanks | 20:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ivan|home: you should query it with qt mobility classes | 20:45 |
| djszapiN950 | Sfiet_Konstantin, should work, at least works for me :p | 20:45 |
| ivan|home | Sfiet_Konstantin: I know, just doing something dirty now :) | 20:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ivan|home: héhé | 20:45 |
| djszapiN950 | Sfiet_Konstantin, cobs is picky about the format | 20:45 |
| djszapiN950 | ivan|home, heya ;) | 20:46 |
| ivan|home | djszapiN950: heh, hi Laszlo :) | 20:46 |
| MohammadAG | <Sfiet_Konstantin> ake[2]: *** No rule to make target `/targets/Harmattan-ARM/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. | 20:46 |
| MohammadAG | make distclean && qmake | 20:46 |
| djszapiN950 | Sfiet_Konstantin, do you have a cobs link ? | 20:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=widgets&project=home%3Asfietkonstantin&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 20:47 |
| clopez | anyone knows about a working harmattan / N9 (qt) client for the fosdem 2012 schedule? http://www.fosdem.org/2012/mobile-schedule-apps | 20:48 |
| djszapi | clopez: that would be cool :) | 20:50 |
| djszapi | clopez: perhaps, you can reuse the existing meego summit one. | 20:50 |
| djszapi | you just need to fill a different xml in. | 20:50 |
| djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: please do not use format 1.0 with c-obs. | 20:50 |
| clopez | I was able to compile http://sourceforge.net/projects/fosdem-maemo/ with qt-creator but the apps don't works with the touch screen (it don't scrolls on the lists) | 20:51 |
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| djszapi | which maemo was it designed for, Fremantle, Harmattan, or ? | 20:52 |
| MohammadAG | it's probably native Qt | 20:55 |
| MohammadAG | which was dumped on Harmattan for a failed reason | 20:55 |
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| djszapi | clopez: could you port to ui to components ? | 20:55 |
| djszapi | the UI* I would love to have such an app. :) | 20:55 |
| djszapi | yes, it is full of C++ code, and not even MTF :P | 20:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | did anyone know if osc keep the downloaded package that it uses for the local build ? | 20:58 |
| jussi | djszapi: that client is incredibly incomplete - and I was also hoping for an account plugin, as I have everything else there. anyways, if there isnt one, then little I can do | 20:58 |
| djszapi | jussi: it is not that simple to write usually a plugin | 20:59 |
| djszapi | (mostly because not documented) | 20:59 |
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| djszapi | maybe a simple password authentication might be enough in your case. | 20:59 |
| djszapi | but from what I can say, the other google plugins are really big, and I do not even understand the code of theirs. | 21:00 |
| jussi | djszapi: fair enough | 21:00 |
| djszapi | and the existing plugins (eg. google ones) are not open source. | 21:00 |
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| gri | how can people at the ovi store rate apps as "anonymous"? I start hating those giving bad ratings with non-english text and absolutely zero information. Why the hell do I have a bug tracker and email even popping up in the application that tells you to not rate the application if you have no clue ... | 21:03 |
| djszapi | jussi: I can send my plugin as an example, but it is written in MTF. | 21:03 |
| djszapi | gri: report it to OVI | 21:04 |
| djszapi | this is sad :/ | 21:04 |
| gri | there should atleast be a way to contact the users and tell them they are stupid :P | 21:05 |
| mps | gri: indeed, why the hell do you have that :) | 21:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | where is the proper way to keep the icons and images for my app? | 21:06 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: qt resource system | 21:07 |
| rzr` | clopez: that one depends on alarmd | 21:07 |
| djszapi | and the app icon is: ${SHARE_INSTALL_DIR}/icons/hicolor/YxY | 21:07 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i mean when i set icons.files = /imgs/reddit.png ; icons.path = | 21:07 |
| mps | it's not like you can just tell people not to rate if they don't like the app and expect them to obey, so that's kind of a silly thing to put in | 21:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: shouldn't i put it in dir only for my app? so if there is such icon already i wouldn't overwrite it? | 21:08 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: what if someone deletes your icon ? | 21:08 |
| djszapi | or qml file ? | 21:08 |
| djszapi | how large are your images ? | 21:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: i want to make icons for buttons instead of text | 21:09 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/resources.html | 21:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | lol | 21:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for my local build i have | 21:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Writing build configuration | 21:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Running build | 21:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | [Errno 2] No such file or directory | 21:10 |
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| djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: Can you paste the whole output ? | 21:10 |
| djszapi | (involving the command you executed) | 21:11 |
| ieatlint | haha, making a reddit app? | 21:11 |
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| gri | did anyone ever see a rating from a chinese person in the ovi store? I have 500+ downloads from China but not a single rating from one of those. Do they have their own ovi ratings that we can't see? | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | [sk@stella widgets]$ osc build MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard armv7el | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Building widgets_0.1.0.dsc for MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armv7el | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Getting buildinfo from server and store to /home/sk/Code/Misc/osc/home:sfietkonstantin/widgets/.osc/_buildinfo-MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard-armv7el.xml | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Getting buildconfig from server and store to /home/sk/Code/Misc/osc/home:sfietkonstantin/widgets/.osc/_buildconfig-MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard-armv7el | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Updating cache of required packages | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | 0.0% cache miss. 206/206 dependencies cached. | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | WARNING: deb packages get not verified, they can compromise your system ! | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Writing build configuration | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Running build | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | [Errno 2] No such file or directory | 21:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | http://pastebin.com/NTGLappN | 21:13 |
| djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: paste.kde.org serves good for instance ;-) | 21:13 |
| djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: have you tried to fix the format to 3.0 btw ? | 21:14 |
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| djszapi | gri: do you publish stuff for free ? | 21:15 |
| gri | djszapi: yes | 21:15 |
| ieatlint | did you actually just paste a bunch of lines to the channel and then give us a pastebin link for the same text? | 21:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | djszapi: ?? what format ? | 21:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ieatlint: yes, because of fail copy paste :D | 21:15 |
| djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: are you familiar with debian package formats ? c-obs is not. | 21:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | djszapi: actually, I'm not familiar either | 21:17 |
| ieatlint | ah :P | 21:17 |
| djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: cat ../../attica/attica-0.2.0/debian/source/format | 21:17 |
| djszapi | 3.0 (quilt) | 21:17 |
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| djszapi | and you need to have the properly named orig.tar.gz/bz2 according to the topmost changelog entry for instance. | 21:18 |
| djszapi | and it will automatically detect the format. | 21:18 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 21:22 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i will see this after eating | 21:22 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | gri: maybe chinese people are just in general inclined not to rate apps? | 21:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | or maybe due to some chinese law ratings from china are blocked? | 21:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also, > anyone know how to make the N9 display a service name for a jabber (gabble) account? | 21:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | right now messaging and availability show a blank line where 'Google Talk' or 'Facebook' or whatever would appear | 21:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also, does peregrine have any integration with telepathy/accounts/contacts or is it standalone | 21:30 |
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| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: wait do i need to add qrc file ? | 21:38 |
| djszapi | yes | 21:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | hmm | 21:39 |
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| djszapi | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/kanagram-harmattan.qrc -> here is an example of mine. | 21:39 |
| djszapi | Do not forget the alternative for this in qmake: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/CMakeLists.txt#L15 | 21:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ~logs | 21:40 |
| infobot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23harmattan/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. | 21:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | wtf, so there's two different logs of this channel? | 21:40 |
| ieatlint | we can avoid being logged by prepending a space to our text? | 21:41 |
| ieatlint | (well, by that logger, anywa) | 21:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: only on one of the two logs | 21:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | itsnotabigtruck: yes, so what? | 21:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which makes it pretty useless | 21:41 |
| djszapi | hehe :) | 21:41 |
| ieatlint | the government is tracking you | 21:42 |
| ieatlint | and logs in stereo make it easier | 21:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | no | 21:42 |
| * DocScrutinizer is tracking you | 21:42 | |
| ieatlint | you must be really bored | 21:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | well to be fair, it's entirely reasonable not to want everything i say to be logged in perpetuity and indexed by google | 21:42 |
| itsnotabigtruck | that's why i really don't like irc logs | 21:43 |
| ieatlint | or have some disturbing kinks | 21:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you say something off the cuff and now anybody googling your nickname can find it | 21:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | itsnotabigtruck: pick an arbitrary text form lest week's log, and use google | 21:43 |
| * djszapi needs to catch the bus otherwise the night would be a bit cold on the street in Helsinki =) | 21:44 | |
| DocScrutinizer | you'll be scared it's not just two places you find logs | 21:44 |
| * ieatlint misses buses... it's so much harder to get drunk in a bar without them :( | 21:44 | |
| itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22it+took+me+28+days+to+get+this+into+ovi+store%22 | 21:45 |
| ieatlint | also, i look forward to a future where people can google my irc handle and learn that on dec 12, 2011, i didn't wear pants | 21:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also i just realized i haven't fixed up my firefox with google ssl and https everywhere yet | 21:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the point is, irc logging can do harm, and rarely does much of any good | 21:46 |
| ieatlint | i've actually gotten useful results from irc logs while searching for problems | 21:47 |
| itsnotabigtruck | (rarely) | 21:48 |
| ieatlint | well, your statistics sound legit | 21:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | o.O | 21:49 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's entirely a matter of opinion, statistics are irrelevant | 21:49 |
| ieatlint | ah, one of those "not intended to be a factual statement" statements | 21:50 |
| ieatlint | :P | 21:50 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it depends on how you weight occasionally finding answers on google vs. having dumb stuff you said be dug up at some point in the future | 21:51 |
| ieatlint | i think you're overanalyzing it | 21:51 |
| ieatlint | unless you plan on discussing very specific details on murdering someone, you're pretty much fine | 21:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | but the chances of finding answers are never that good, and the chances of having something dumb you said be logged converges to 100% if you're here long enough | 21:51 |
| ieatlint | yeah, everyone says stupid shit | 21:52 |
| ieatlint | you won't stand out | 21:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, but if somebody's trying to turn up info on you in particular, everything would stand out | 21:53 |
| ieatlint | info about what? | 21:53 |
| ieatlint | how long it took you to get something into ovi? | 21:54 |
| itsnotabigtruck | anything... | 21:54 |
| ieatlint | you're making me want to start publishing my logs too | 21:54 |
| ieatlint | and i've been an eff member for 13 years now :P | 21:55 |
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| jussi | djszapi: yes please, jussi01 at ubuntu dot com | 22:06 |
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| djszapiN950 | ok | 22:11 |
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| ZogG_laptop | djszapiN950: i added qrc file and entered the path as well, i added the file to otherfiles but still it says it cna't be open =\ | 22:17 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | so, i understand that harmattan doesn't provide any way to place a video call | 22:45 |
| itsnotabigtruck | does the telepathy/etc. infrastructure support video calling? | 22:45 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop: I am not fun of the truncated, and not fully pasted user reports. | 22:46 |
| djszapi | fan* | 22:46 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i.e. if somebody made a telepathy connection manager that did video calls, could you make video calls with it via the gui | 22:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: nvm, solved it by install += imgs, would play with qrc later | 22:48 |
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| torarne | djszapi: did you work on aegis stuff? | 23:02 |
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| djszapi | torarne: yeah | 23:05 |
| torarne | on a non-RD device, is there anything you can do to get the rights to mount? | 23:07 |
| torarne | as root, or user, whatever. sshfs works fine except "fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted" | 23:08 |
| torarne | i assume aegis-su is not available for non-RD devices? | 23:08 |
| djszapi | no, and correct | 23:08 |
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| djszapi | well, yes and correct actually | 23:08 |
| djszapi | but I will not disclose security holes for obvious reasons ;-) | 23:08 |
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| djszapi | not even in the "interrogator room" :) | 23:09 |
| torarne | :) | 23:10 |
| torarne | so ther's no credential an app can request to be able to mount? | 23:11 |
| torarne | even if mounting into a user-directory | 23:12 |
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| djszapi | torarne: no because it would be error-prone a lot. | 23:12 |
| djszapi | (btw this topic was discussed many time, thus I suggest the channel log for not replicating that conversation, at least bit by bit) | 23:13 |
| djszapi | times* | 23:13 |
| torarne | k, gotcha | 23:13 |
| djszapi | torarne: something around this discussion: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2012-01-11.log.html#t2012-01-11T15:26:28 | 23:15 |
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| torarne | djszapi: thanks | 23:32 |
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| e-yes | sgx530 revision 125 (for n9) -- is it correct information? | 23:36 |
| djszapi | sgx530, yep | 23:38 |
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