IRC log of #harmattan for Sunday, 2012-01-29

DocScrutinizerI guess that's just because spell checkers blow chunks big time, when you run them against a usual *.c or *.h file00:01
* DocScrutinizer can't recall if e.g. qt-linguist has a spell check built in00:02
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DocScrutinizerwould make much sense00:02
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DocScrutinizeryou bet that crap used for qml (if there's any) won't have any spellchecker00:03
DocScrutinizerbut hey, that's what Nokia is forcing us to use and thus forcing things to be00:04
DocScrutinizerI actually adore this concept of "if you don't code it in qml, it's probably not supported on HARM"ยก00:05
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ieatlintactually in qml you're supposed to use qStr() to encapsulate your strings, and it's the same as tr() in qt00:19
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ieatlinti think a lot of the times two factors cause spelling/grammar issues... a lot of devs may not be native speakers of the language, and when you're writing an app, you're often concentrating on a lot of other things than what a string says00:22
ieatlintoh, and drunk coding00:24
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DocScrutinizerieatlint: I more meant anything remotely resembling qt-linguist or qt-creator, tather than the function call like tr() or qStr()00:38
DocScrutinizerno idea if there's *anything* for qml00:39
DocScrutinizers/qt-creator/qt Designer/00:40
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DocScrutinizerwhen fremantle went gtk->qt for suggested and supported toolkit, I thought WOW. When they introduced qml, this changed to MEH!00:44
ieatlintyeah... well, they weren't able to get mtf into a decent state, and then just dropped it on the floor for qml00:46
DocScrutinizernext step: qmlite - running apps on remote servers and only the GUI gets rendered in browser on board00:46
ieatlinti wish i could downgrade an n9... i have a few meego images from a year ago that i bet would be interesting to see in action00:47
DocScrutinizererr, what's the problem with running meego on N9?00:47
ieatlintqml already supports that essentially... when you set the qml file on the viewer, it takes a QUrl...00:47
DocScrutinizerexcept for meego itself00:48
ieatlintno, i mean harmattan images00:48
ieatlintas far back as 0.2010.42-600:49
DrGrovI now restarted the phone after I powered it off for the reboot to make lpsmagic working.00:50
DocScrutinizerieatlint: (qmlite) sure, thought as much, just they will enforce it as the only supported way to run app on N9, so they finally reached the state where you lost control of your executables completely, and they can monetize each second of usage of every single app00:50
DrGrovI must say it is really working out well, perfect for my needs to monitor battery consumption without needing to second guess anything. Not even need to touch the phone which makes it even better :)00:50
ieatlintDocScrutinizer: no no, that's not in store for the n900:51
ieatlintyou're thinking of meltemi00:51
DocScrutinizeraaah, sure. You're right00:51
ieatlintnokia sure does like its winds00:52
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: BTW, did you want to have some charger things for the N900?00:52
ieatlintperhaps the next OS will be codenamed "breaking wind" in finnish00:52
DocScrutinizerme produces some wind in general direction Nokia ;-P00:52
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: hm?00:53
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: how does it behave when "missed call"?00:54
DocScrutinizer(the lpsmagic)00:54
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DrGrovDocScrutinizer: I have no idea since I turned it off and put it on charging :( I can test it tomorrow and report back to you, I mean test it today since it is Sunday already. That is if you like to know?01:09
DocScrutinizerjust suspecting conflicts between "2 missed calls" (if there's even such a thing on that lowpower screen) and what LPS is doing01:10
DrGrovWhen I had missed calls on regular low power screen it just showed an missed call upgoing arrow :D01:11
DrGrovSo it just showed one upside arrow even though I could have 4 missed calls and 2 text messages. Just a envelope and the arrow were shown on the default low power screen.01:12
DrGrovWhat makes you think that there would be a conflict? A conflict because of "too many" events?01:12
DocScrutinizerbecause of conflicting ways the both notification daemons use01:13
DocScrutinizernot sure about that, just wondering01:14
DrGrovOk :)01:17
DrGrovIf that was to happen could LPS or/and the default low power screen segfault? :D01:17
DrGrovGotta ask admiral0 when he joins in again to see what he has done with it01:24
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: BTW, did you want to have some spare N900 charger things? LIke the dual charging plug?01:24
gabriel9is there any way to play some sound from qml?01:29
gabriel9on onClicked play some mp301:29
gabriel9swit jisus there is sound element01:30
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: (segfault) I guess not01:30
DocScrutinizerI'd just not be surprised to find one overrides the other and makes it vanish01:31
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: (charger thing) sure, why not01:32
DrGrovBut what if they co-exist side by side? LPS and the default low power screen?01:33
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: I have to try and find them charger things then, I thought that if I get them you might be interested01:33
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ieatlinthmm, how can i more sanely create a custom qdeclarativeitem to plot a graph to show in qml using data from another c++ backend?02:28
ieatlintthe examples i see have me subclassing qdeclarativeitem and painting it, then using qmlRegisterType to make it accessable in qml02:28
ieatlintbut then the object is created inside of the context, and i can't send data from the c++ backend to it to plot02:29
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npmafter following Location API registration syntax per ... howcome i get QColor::setNamedColor: Unknown color name '<APPID>' ... QColor::setNamedColor: Unknown color name '<TOKEN>' and still see warning about "Qt Location requires03:28
npmusage of app_id and token parameters obtained from:
npmwhat is the correct syntax for the location plugin parameters??03:29
npmi'm using syntax given above and/or
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itsnotabigtruckDocScrutinizer: re spell checking, i meant in a more general sense03:36
itsnotabigtruckoh, also, if lps-magic registers its system stats as an operator logo, then they should coexist however they would normally03:38
itsnotabigtruckalso, i thought events show up as icons above the clock03:38
itsnotabigtrucktime to poke around at the source and see how it actually works03:39
itsnotabigtruckyeah, it uses PIL to generate a PNG with the stats in /tmp03:40
itsnotabigtruckthen uses gconf to set that as the low_power_mode operator_logo03:40
itsnotabigtruckdamn, drgrov's gone already, most of that was really for him03:42
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sebastianhi, any charitable soul that could help me with a hard time flashing Nokia N9 or point me to the right channel please?09:38
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sebastianI am flashing DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4.348.1_PR_348, on my 059L4L3 N9 phone, and getting "downgrade disallowed"09:40
sebastianit's the latest version in navifirm, so, any ideas of what can I do?09:40
sebastianand it's the same version reported installed in my phone by flasher, so not a downgrade at all09:40
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ieatlintheh, nice... just tried to use InfoBanner in the simulator, and it loaded in a symbian version that clashes with the harmattan version, meaning I can't use the simulator with that element10:15
ieatlinthas anyone else suddenly have the built in twitter client stop working?10:23
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ieatlinti would assume it was just me, except i've had it happen simultaneously on two devices, while another two are continuing to work fine10:26
dm8tbrieatlint: on pr1.1 it's a known bug10:28
dm8tbrieatlint: there are workarounds10:28
ieatlintgreat... i'm just impressed it happened on more than once device simultaneously10:28
dm8tbrwho knows what triggers it10:29
ieatlintwould imply to me something in the protocol or feed10:30
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RST38hHo ho ho10:51
ieatlintcongrats, hope you used a condom10:52
* RST38h used a disassembler10:53
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ajalkaneApps For MeeGo client doesn't work on PR1.2:11:30
ajalkaneAegis rejecting org.formeego.apps_0.9.15_armel.deb: package 'org.formeego.apps' origin cannot be determined  -- signature check failed11:30
ajalkaneaegis aborting dpkg -- all listed package files rejected11:30
ajalkaneCompilation failed in require.11:30
ajalkaneWhat can be done about it if anything?11:30
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RST38hI think you disabled installations from unknown sources11:30
RST38hSure it is enabled?11:31
ajalkaneYes, it's enabled11:31
ajalkaneYou managed to install it on PR1.2?11:31
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RST38hNever tried appsformeego on pr1.211:33
RST38hthe site only contains a few apps, not very interesting right now11:33
ajalkaneTrue that11:34
ajalkaneIt'd be much more enticing if they provided more credentials for apps than Nokia Store11:34
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araujoanybody knows a nice irc client for the n9?12:05
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nix-cyrusaraujo: irc-chatter12:09
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araujonix-cyrus, is that available from the store?12:24
araujowhere can I find it?12:24
nix-cyrusaraujo: I think you can find all you need here
araujoooh, thanks, this is the one I was looking for actually.... :)12:27
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RST38hGentlemen, anyone knows how I can add more search engines on Harmattan? Currently it only shows Google12:54
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Rantwolfgo to settings > programs > internet: and select your search engine13:06
Rantwolfthere are four engines selectable13:08
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infobotsomebody said update was
faenilmorning people :)15:00
DrGrovYo faenil :)15:00
faenilyo :)15:01
DrGrovfaenil: What is going on over there?15:01
faenilqtday finished, yesterday :)15:01
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xmlich02i have problem with space15:03
DrGrovfaenil: How was the qtday? :)15:04
faenilvery nice ;) there were some interesting talks :)15:04
DrGrovfaenil: Some haxxoring also? :D15:05
faeniland I met lots of nice people :)15:05
faenilwell yeah :) most of them are intro talks :)15:05
DrGrovfaenil: That is great to hear that you met friendly & nice people :)15:05
faenilyup :)15:05
DrGrovfaenil: Is it difficult to learn to code in Qt?15:06
faenilit depends on how much you already know :)15:07
faenilQt is there to make things easier :)15:07
faenilso if you're a c++ coder, it will be easy15:07
DrGrovI am no coder :/ But I would love to learn :)15:07
DrGrovfaenil: But apparently that can not be too difficult even now without any previous experience or does it take a lot of time?15:11
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faenilDrGrov: you can always learn, nothing is impossible :)15:53
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y0nd13i would like to know where can i get libpcap-dev for n9?15:58
y0nd13quite urgent15:58
DrGrovfaenil: That is good news :) When I do the apt-get update as root on the N9 I find that the repos are updated. Anyway to get a hold of what is actually inside those repos?15:59
faeniltried looking in the packages directory?15:59
DrGrovfaenil: Would love to find what is actually in the repos.16:00
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faenily0nd13: ?16:02
faenily0nd13: found it?16:02
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y0nd13how to run raw socket on n916:29
y0nd13how botu rawsocket16:29
virtualdis it possible to use a bluetooth internet connection with the n9 as a client? the bluetooth gateway is a dumbphone16:32
virtualddo i need pand?16:33
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djszapiCan I run some custom code in QML for a page loading ? Is there a signal for that for instance ?16:44
virtualdif someone would point me in the right direction it would be really nice, i don't need exact instructions16:49
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faenildjszapi: you mean once a page is loaded?16:50
faenilonStatusChanged --> check if status == activated16:51
faenilyou could try that :)16:51
djszapionVisibleChanged: { -> that is it.16:51
faenilsame ;)16:51
faenilthough I'd go for the status one :D16:52
faenilbut it really depends on what you need that for, so you can choose :)16:52
djszapiexcept that there is no onStatusChanged in the documentation.16:53
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faenilin the page?16:53
faenilQML Page?16:53
faenilyou have the status property16:54
faenilso you have onStatusChanged by definition :D16:54
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SqRt7744I'm having a problem with a very basic listview not reading in a xml file with XmlListModel. Can someone please have a glace at it and tell me if they see anything obviously wrong??'s pure Qml16:56
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djszapifaenil: I prefer the visibility signal because it is better documented with an example. Moreover, I think it is better to make Ui magic for visibility signal, like starting a timer.16:59
faenilright ;)17:01
djszapiDid anybody got the SoundEffect Mobility component work ?17:02
faenilI'm interested in that too17:04
faenilwhen I'll continue my 3d game I'll need that17:04
faeniland I remember it had issues17:04
faenilwhen I used it in September17:04
faeniland things like can't repeat the same sound more than once :O17:05
faenil(though that was about Sound{} or something like that)17:05
djszapithere is no "Sound", just "Audio".17:05
faenilyeah Audio17:06
faenilthat was it17:06
djszapibut yes, games should really not use "Audio" for effects. That is what the "SoundEffect" was designed for with the policy framework configfile.17:06
faeniland SoundEffect wasn't playing at all if I'm not wrong17:06
faenilI know, I was using Audio for the background music...17:06
faeniland SoundEffect for game efx17:06
faenilbut neither was working correctly17:06
djszapiSoundEffect does not play here, not even wav files. "Audio" causes random crashes in my app.17:06
faenilI remember SoundEffect not playing17:07
faenildammit it's still the same then :(17:07
djszapibut it plays for my colleagues :/17:07
faenil?? :O17:07
djszapi -> Yes, they tried this.17:07
djszapihave you had a policy framework config file for pulseaudio ?17:08
faenilnope, know nothing about pulseaudio17:08
djszapihave you checked the pulseaudio logs back then ? I was trying to do that, but with "SoundEffect", it seemed that way, the program (the mobility component) did not even try to start playing.17:08
faenilno I did not17:08
djszapiinteresting how other applications are getting the audio work.17:09
faenilI'm 100% I had the same problem (i.e. SoundEffect was not playing)17:09
djszapibut you did try "wav" files, right ?17:10
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faenilyes If I'm not wrong...wav and mp317:10
faenilbut not sure about that17:10
djszapionly wav supported17:11
faenilalmost 100% sure about trying wav17:11
faenilokay then ok ;)17:11
faenilI must have read that back then17:11
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djszapiAlso, I wonder why they did not add a property for avoiding the configuration file thingie.17:13
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faenilI did not know it needed a config file to play sounds17:14
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djszapiheh, it should not theoritically in simple cases.17:14
jonniIm using SoundEffect in my qml ovistore app, works just fine17:14
djszapibut that is apparently not the practice.17:14
jonnino need to any configs17:14
faenil-.- wth is wrong with soundeffect then xD17:15
djszapiyes, there is17:16
jonnimaybe forgotten to put the file inside the deb package? :)17:16
djszapiread the policy framework documentation. It is surely needed for mixing stuff17:16
faenilnope :P it was in the qrc17:16
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djszapiit is probably gonna work if there is no such a situation (like background track playing in a music player), but otherwise you might have troubles with the policy framework configuration with pulseaudio.17:17
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djszapiso doing correct, one should install a pulseaudio config stuff, and load the module in the postinst script in some way: either pulseaudio stop/start or pulsectl17:18
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jonnifaenil: I'm playing my wav file from qrc too with SoundEffect, and manifest.aegis doesnt request anything17:18
djszapithe config file is rather simple though:
djszapiwell, I do not know the mobility codebase.17:20
djszapiaccording to the pulseaudio log file, the "SoundEffect" element did not even start playing for
djszapiand console.log("BEFORE/AFTER_SOUND_EFFECT") worked just fine. Moreover Audio element played even if it caused random crash17:20
djszapiso one with mobility codebase knowledge should take a look at it since it is most likely a mobility bug.17:21
djszapior underlying QMediaPlayer API bug.17:22
djszapisorry, nope, that is for the Audio bug because SoundEffect uses a distinct underlying technology.17:24
djszapirecap: both are buggy :D17:24
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y0nd132anyone knows how to run rawsocket program on our n917:25
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djszapifaenil: what you could do is to write a simple qml file an open it up in the qmlviewer.17:25
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jonnifor me atleast SoundEffect { id: sound, source : "foo.war" }       works just file if I call
jonnifoo.war -> foo.wav even17:26
faenilyeah I'll try that when I have some time...coding atm :)17:26
djszapijonni: but it does not work for us :D17:26
jonnidjszapi: which pr release?17:27
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djszapitried 1.1 and 1.217:27
djszapieven internal beleeding edge.17:27
djszapibut I did not have time for a simple workhorse yet as I mentioned above.17:29
djszapimy app and drummachine did not work at least.17:29
jonniI've tested it with 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 and deb is in ovi store and havent had any reports that it would not work.17:35
jonnisoundeffect did have some features that it does not regognize all the formats or bitrates17:35
jonniand your not allowed to use volume: as its not supported in N9, even if API ducumentation has it :=)17:37
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jonni(some of the mobility guys are sitting in the same floor as me, so its a feature...)17:45
djszapiI am sorry, but I have a terrible internet connection17:46
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djszapimobility is one of the most fragile bits on Harmattan.17:48
jonnimight be that if your app has policy file it might block the usage of SoundEffect, as afaik its really meant to be used without pulseaudio policies. Atleast it has worked for me without doing any policy files.17:49
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jonnibut its more likely that it doesnt regognize the format or bitrate of the file.17:50
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djszapiI think you misunderstood the design principles behind the policy framework. You might wanna read the relevant documentation. At least it is properly documented.17:51
djszapiThat is the exact point behind the SoundEffect usage so that you /need/ to have a policy file, otherwise the mixing will screw up without proper priorities and all that jazz.17:52
jonni    <- show me the line where it says that you need policy file?17:52
djszapiPlease bring harmattan documentation on Harmattan platform.17:53
jonni   <- show the line in there?17:54
djszapithis is not the harmattan resource policy framework documentation as I said above.17:54
djszapiou look at the wrong place for documentation.17:55
jonniwell mobility guys did the api in a way which bypassed the policy framework17:55
djszapiwhich is not ture17:56
djszapithis is exactly the opposite of that what I have been told by the lead pulseaudio developer and the tpo of the resource policy framework17:56
djszapiWhat you should have actually looked for is this:
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jonniohwell, maybe Im just then lucky that my app works without policy17:57
djszapiit is not any "lucky" related thing. As I said above, your application would be buggy17:57
djszapiofcourse anything will work if your application is the only one running and no other music.17:58
djszapibut please read the documentation to understand these things better.17:58
ajalkaneI don't understand how to close the virtual keyboard in QML when user presses enter17:58
ajalkaneAnyone know how to do it?17:58
ajalkaneI know how to close, but how to detect enter was pressed from TextField QML component17:58
jonniajalkane: most likely the keyevent is return and not enter, or vice versa, there was forum thread about it a while back.18:00
ajalkanejonni: I can't even see in the TextField document any way to latch on to events. Does that have to be done in C++=18:02
faenilplease tell me someone has already used resizeContent of Flickable qml18:02
faenilafter calling it I get contentX = -12000+18:03
djszapijonni: some onTextChanged thingie ?18:03
djszapifaenil: even a simple qml app with just a soundeffect does not work :D18:04
jonniajalkane: google Keys.onPressed:18:06
djszapifaenil: it was designed for that we need to sign while playing xD18:07
djszapiwhat bugs me is that it was a known issue 1-2 years ago as well18:08
faenilyeah... :18:08
djszapiand apparently they did not "visibly" work on it.18:08
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djszapiI spent 3 days with debugging the random crash in my app by the time I realized it is a damn mobility issue :D :D18:09
djszapithere is no pause method for the Timer, really ? :)18:12
faenilstop() and then start()?18:12
ajalkanejonni: ok thanks, I'll check18:13
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djszapifaenil: that starts with the "permanent" value.18:14
djszapiI would like to go to the settings page, and then back, but I would not like to restart the whole timer.18:15
faenilI know what you mean..18:15
faenilwhat you mean by permanent value?18:15
djszapiwhat you hard code into the interval.18:15
djszapifor permanently.18:15
faenilso you think stop() is like reset?18:16
djszapistop is stop, like in music/audio thingy.18:16
djszapipause is pause.18:16
djszapiI need pause functionality.18:17
djszapibut apparently even the C++ QTimer does not have such a though.18:17
faenilstop resets the timer18:17
faenilyeah it seems it doesn't18:17
* faenil is reading the sourcecode18:18
djszapithat is sort of weird, isn't it ? :)18:18
faenilit is...-.-18:18
faenilas the missing velocity in a pangesture18:18
faenilwhich is causing so much trouble to me18:18
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itsnotabigtruckajalkane: still around?18:20
itsnotabigtruckyou need aegis-community-source-policy installed first18:20
djszapifaenil: interesting, I cannot even get the current value of the timer, so no workaround for pause functionality ahahaha :D18:20
faenilthere's a reason for the pause method not being there :P18:21
djszapiI am sure I am misreading something since I cannot believe that you cannot make a timer pause18:21
faenilwell you could use a homemade timer18:21
faenilsave the passed ms when pausing18:22
djszapino, I will personally patch QTimer in C++.18:22
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faenillet me know if you do ;)18:22
djszapiI mean ... it is not a mobile concept to have a timer pausable :)18:22
bluesleehmmm ...   libxml2-dev: Depends: libxml2 (= 2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6) but 2.7.8-0maemo5+0m6 is to be installed18:22
djszapithey cannot really say it is a new use case :)18:22
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itsnotabigtruckhmm, has aptitude been ported to n9 yet?18:26
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djszapifaenil: I understood why pause does not make too much sense in QTimer :D18:46
faeniland that is?18:49
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djszapifaenil: well, you need to track the time in the client code, right ?18:58
djszapiso you basically need two timers for this downcounting purpose, right ?18:59
djszapiif you already need to track the time, why not put it into a variable and restart with that ?18:59
djszapiI bet not many QTimer users would accept it.18:59
djszapiwe could make a QPlausableTimer though.18:59
faenilalready found19:01
bluesleei have some issues with libxml2-dev: Depends: libxml2 (= 2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6) but 2.7.8-0maemo5+0m6 is to be installed19:07
bluesleehow can i proceed?19:07
bluesleethe maemo4 named package is from here
ajalkaneGot the closing on return working, thanks jonni19:08
ajalkanenow the problem is losing focus then19:08
ajalkaneTextField does not properly alias focus property X-(19:09
ajalkaneI mean when the vkb is closed, the element should lose focus, so that it can be activated again by clicking the field19:09
ajalkanei guess some hacking around is needed19:09
djszapiblueslee: rename or repackage :)19:10
bluesleedjszapi: just rename?19:10
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ajalkaneitsnotabigtruck: how to install that policy?19:12
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ajalkaneok got focus correctly now... damn ugly solution.19:12
bluesleedjszapi: how do i repackage this guy on an n9?19:13
djszapiyou have the tar.gz19:14
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bluesleei have the deb19:14
djszapi... which is not correct19:14
djszapiyou can try to force the installation, too, but I would repackage it.19:14
djszapialso, please always provide a full console output, not what you think is important.19:15
djszapi(yes even the command you executed)19:15
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bluesleehow should i force installation19:17
djszapidpkg --help please.19:18
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djszapiblueslee: so you have a wrong version installed. Why not install the correct one from the repository ?19:19
djszapiyou actually wrote the opposite above19:19
bluesleewhere is the correct one?19:19
djszapithat is why I could not believe it ...19:19
djszapithe link you pasted.19:19
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bluesleei dont want to break dependencies on my n919:20
bluesleethere the package is named libxml2*maemo5*19:21
djszapithen do not use it :)19:21
bluesleei need a dev package for building perl modules which are missing19:22
djszapithen follow my instructions.19:22
djszapiI do not know any other way around than those.19:22
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bluesleehmm, forcing installation of libxml2-dev*maemo4* did not work for compilation19:24
bluesleedjszapi: i guess the preinstalled libxml2*maemo5*  is provided by nokia, they also should provide the dev package19:26
djszapithat is not the root cause of the issue19:26
bluesleeand i do not understand why packages are named maemox with x=5 or even 4:-)19:26
djszapiyou do not need to.19:26
bluesleei know djszapi, i know, but i want to solve my issue:-)19:27
bluesleemaybe i can get the correct dev package using the sdk?19:30
djszapiblueslee: I would repeackage it.19:30
npmso PR1.2 when "set time automaticallY' is enabled is in wrong timezone. Any reason why I shouldn't fix by re-symlinking this from etc: lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root            36 Jan 28 21:06 localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York19:31
djszapirepackage, and tell me the packaging bug (most likely simple dependency thingie in the control file), and I will raise the issue internally inside the SDK team.19:31
bluesleeokay, i will try it with dpkg-deb19:32
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djszapidpkg-deb ? You might wanna use dpkg-buildpackage19:35
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RST38hmedia sharing does not appear to export .avi files over DLNA19:37
bluesleedjszapi: how do i avoid that there is no changelog in the debain folder?19:38
djszapiadmiral0_n9: it is not a help channel :p19:38
* djszapi hies19:38
djszapihides, even* :)19:38
djszapiblueslee: there should be.19:38
admiral0_n9nat module is missing19:38
admiral0_n9tethering doesn't work....19:39
djszapiyes, of course.19:39
RST38his it a surprise?19:39
djszapiknown design decision for a quite while.19:39
SpeedEvilNAT is not present, you need to install a new kernel, and as I understand it, wipe user data.19:39
bluesleedjszapi: in debian there is a control file which i modified and some has sums19:39
djszapiand no changelog ?19:39
bluesleedjszapi:  thats right19:40
djszapiblah meh19:40
admiral0_n9i must flash?19:40
djszapiyour own kernel, yes.19:40
admiral0_n9joikuspot is not wofking19:41
djszapiblueslee: I do have changelog.19:41
bluesleedjszapi: for the package i mentioned19:41
djszapimake sure you are /not/ inside the debian folder.19:42
djszapibut out of that.19:42
djszapiso in the package root.19:42
admiral0_n9i didn't see nat and iptables -t nat returns saying module is not loaded19:42
djszapijoikuspot is not working .... it is a bit wide range of possibility for issues :)19:42
bluesleedjszapi: i used "dpkg-deb -e package.deb extract/DEBIAN"19:42
djszapiCould you please provide more information ?19:42
djszapiblueslee: why would you use that hackery ?19:42
bluesleedjszapi: i dont know it better, just googled for repackage deb19:43
djszapiokay, please follow my instructions:19:43
djszapi1) go to your scratchbox or madde19:43
djszapi2) wget -c
djszapi3) tar xvpf libxml2_2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6.tar.gz19:43
djszapi4) cd libxml2-2.7.8/19:43
djszapi5) edit the stuff19:44
bluesleeone moment, you have a tgz19:44
bluesleethats fine19:44
djszapi6) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot19:44
djszapiblueslee: why do you need libxml2 btw ?19:45
djszapiexpat should work as well...19:45
admiral0_n9the gateway(n9) doesn't respond19:45
bluesleedjszapi: need to build perl modules which depend on libxml2-dev19:45
djszapiadmiral0_n9: I have been using joikuspot for a while19:46
djszapistill doing, works fine19:46
admiral0_n9wifi is associated19:46
admiral0_n9dhcp works19:46
djszapiblueslee: cannot they depend on expat ?19:46
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bluesleedjszapi: and i need the libxml2-dev package, your link is wrong19:46
admiral0_n9i'll see what's wrong when i'm home19:46
djszapiN950blueslee, no, it is correct19:48
bluesleebut i want to repackage libxml2-dev*maemo4*19:48
djszapiN950trust me19:49
djszapiN950you lack the basics of packaging, so either trust me or go amend your missings. :)19:49
npmhmm weird... so "powering down" doesn't actually reboot19:50
npmit's more like a hibernate?19:50
npmor maybe powering down w/ USB cable attached isn't actually powering down?19:50
npmotherwise, how would an ssh session survive a powerdown as it just did19:50
* npm adds script to fix timezone s f-up on each reboot: echo "mv /etc/localtime /etc/localtime.bak ; ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles /etc/localtime" > ~/fixtimezone19:54
npmman, i better get a $0.99 app so as to save myself the time of typing devel-su <password> reboot19:54
DocScrutinizernpm: indeed HARM just switches runlevel on 'power down', when attached to charger19:55
DocScrutinizereven ssh sessions survive19:55
bluesleedjszapiN950: okay, i trust you ... what stuff should i edit in libxml2-2.7.819:56
DocScrutinizeraah you already noticed that19:56
djszapiblueslee: do you need it right now I can do it for you tomorrow ?19:56
RST38hOh shit19:56
bluesleedjszapi: thats okay ...19:57
RST38hRygel is running in the "struct sharing mode", and rygel.conf cannot be edited, probably because of aegis19:57
RST38hHow useful19:57
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DocScrutinizerrygel?? o.O19:57
itsnotabigtruckDocScrutinizer npm: but powering off when disconnected from the charger actually does power off, right?20:00
RST38hha! edited it!20:01
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DocScrutinizeritsnotabigtruck: yep20:05
RST38hhehehe! it works!20:06
* RST38h made another smll victory over braindead nokia policies20:06
RST38hlooks like it is trying to transcode rather than sendthe .avi file as it is20:11
* RST38h wonders why20:11
djszapibtw, mp4 is not supported by the video player. Can I get it work somehow without converting the file?20:13
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RST38hmp4 is supported20:18
RST38hBOTH stock videos that come with the firmware are .mp4s20:19
djszapiit does not work for me in the video player.20:19
RST38hwrong mp4 then, mp4 is just a container after all20:19
npmitsnotabigtruck DocScrutinizer i'll find out next time i powerdown and not connected to charger20:20
djszapiI tried with at least 10 distinct mp4s from youtube20:20
RST38hyoutube is the keyword here20:20
RST38hLoad into something sensible, like BSPlayer, and see what video stream info says20:20
RST38hProbably says something like "flv video" or "h264 profile 'you-will-not-have-it'"20:21
faenildamn pincharea and flickable20:21
faenilhas anybody ever made a simple image viewer with working pinchtozoom?20:21
djszapiRST38h: it works with mplayer, and the video player also works with flvs.20:21
faenildifficulties keep popping up...20:22
DocScrutinizererr, what's wrong with gallery on HARM?20:22
npmfaenil: i had problems w/ pincharea grabbing mouse events and preventing stuff from working... likewise w/ flickable ... i imagine both toghether wold be even worse.20:22
RST38hAs I said, BSPlayer, view stream info20:22
faenilnpm: I just want to code a simple qml viewer, and they're making my life impossibile!20:22
npmesp w/ qtwebkit being the thing you want to display (see )20:23
djszapiRST38h: have not tried that, but it even works in youtube, just not in that video player.20:23
djszapimight be a video player bug.20:23
djszapiI will provide the file to them tomorrow.20:24
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djszapion a side note, I have no idea what bsplayer is, not does pacman.20:24
admiral0djszapi: hi20:24
admiral0i'm back at home20:24
djszapi and -> no result in the official, nor even in the community repositories.20:25
RST38hIt is a Windows app.20:26
djszapiso no go then ;-)20:27
DrGrovadmiral0: Hi there, you the are the author of lpsmagic yes? The cool low power screen mod?20:27
admiral0yep, damaltor is too20:27
admiral0i am mantaining it and developing new version20:28
DrGrovadmiral0: Ok, I installed lps-magic_1.1_armel.deb yesterday and  it works perfect. Got everything displayed right. Date, battery state etc. No problems at all.20:28
DrGrovBut I still wonder that what does happen if I get 2 missed calls or 2 SMS that pop up on the lock screen? How is it displayed if there is 2 missed calls/SMS?20:29
DrGrovadmiral0: It is very cool to see uptime as well with lpsmagic. The best though has to be the possibility to monitor battery usage with the cool % sign :)20:30
admiral0i just substitute operator logo20:30
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admiral0other notifications are not changed20:30
DrGrovSo I know when to charge etc. :) So if I have 2 missed calls or SMS? Does it just show the upgoing arrow for missed calls and envelope for SMS?20:31
admiral0those are done by the low power mode program itself20:31
DrGrovOk, so then I do not know if I have 1,2,3,4 or more missed calls or received SMS. Good like that :) Does not clutter too much :)20:31
RST38hOMG WP7 is invading Harmattan firmware20:32
RST38h-rw-r--r--    1 user     root           935 Jan 25 23:13 cyan-rectangles-sgx_786.txt20:32
RST38h-rw-r--r--    1 user     root           935 Jan 25 23:42 cyan-rectangles-sgx_836.txt20:32
RST38h-rw-r--r--    1 user     root           935 Jan 29 16:50 cyan-rectangles-sgx_837.txt20:32
RST38h-rw-r--r--    1 user     root          2992 Jan 26 01:44 cyan-rectangles-sgx_841.txt20:32
RST38hthese files arebeing created in MyDocs20:32
admiral0RST38h: dafuq?20:32
admiral0what are the contents20:32
RST38hBut I only know of one variety of cyan rectangles =)20:33
RST38hlook for yourself20:33
admiral0i am currently in "wtf" mode with joikuspot20:33
DrGrovadmiral0: Is there any possibility in the next version of lpsmagic to get a symbol for locked screen? Like a key or something? Similar to the old S60 phones :D20:34
admiral0DrGrov: ?20:34
DrGrovadmiral0: So when the keylock is active and lpsmagic is displayed that it would show with a symbol, ex. key, that the screen is locked20:35
admiral0have you got any image somewhere that shows that?20:35
DrGrov*screen is locked ...20:35
DrGrovadmiral0: No, there is no image at all that shows that my screen is locked. Just the low power screen + lpsmagic.20:36
DrGrovBut I was wondering if that could be implemented in the next version of lpsmagic. A symbol of a key that shows that the screen is locked.20:36
dm8tbrRST38h: on n950 and pr1.2?20:36
admiral0DrGrov: ah, just a static image?20:37
RST38hdm8tbr: yes20:37
DrGrovadmiral0: Yes, it would make my life a lot less paranoid :D It would be nice to see a static image that shows that the screen is locked.20:37
DrGrovadmiral0: May I suggest another tweak/additional thing to lpsmagic that would be cool to have around?20:38
DocScrutinizerDrGrov: doesn't that sound a bit like "shoot the lamp, then light a match to look if you hit"?20:38
DocScrutinizer(the Russian way to extinguish lights in sleeping room)20:39
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Yo Doc. Nice to see you around. No, that symbol to show that the screen is locked would be good. Or how do you mean? Sure I can see that the screen is locked but would be a nice addition to see on the screen when it is locked.20:39
admiral0say it in the tmo thread. i tend to forget otherwise20:40
DocScrutinizertag on a switched off TV: "this TV is off" ?? .oO(???)20:40
DrGrovadmiral0: Ok, I will register myself on TMO then to give the suggestion.20:40
admiral0DocScrutinizer: wallpaper for pros:
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: I think it would be a nice addition to see that the screen is locked with a static image of a key.20:41
DrGrovadmiral0: But I will give it already now before I forget :D20:41
admiral0DrGrov: i won't add the key image though. i'll add possibility to add images20:41
DocScrutinizerI think the loowpower screen showing actually indicates pretty clearly that screen is locked, no?20:42
dm8tbrRST38h: sounds like debug code they didn't care to remove for the beta release20:42
DocScrutinizersorry, I really don't get it20:42
DrGrovadmiral0: That is good as well :) Would be nice to add an image to lpsmagic that could show something :)20:43
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Ok, if you say so :)20:43
DocScrutinizeris there *any* situation where LPSscreen wouldn't have to show "the screen is locked"?20:43
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Well if the phone is turned off :D20:43
DrGrovNah, forget this20:44
DrGrovDoes not make any difference what so ever it seems20:44
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DocScrutinizerwhen phone is shut off, the LPSscreen doesn't show at all, so obviously it's not an answer to my question20:45
DrGrovDocScrutinizer: Well I got an answer for your question. It would be nice to see a mini animation or something when the screen is being pressed.20:46
DrGrovThat way it would be visually attractive to touch the screen20:46
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DrGrovLike a blinking key or wtf ever20:46
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RST38hok, playing videos using DLNA is a huge fail20:49
DocScrutinizerwell, slightly changed topic but not all unreasonable20:49
RST38hI am not sure who came up with the idea of copying the whole movie before starting playback20:49
DocScrutinizerRST38h: some CS-Prof I bet20:50
DocScrutinizeror some OO wizard20:51
DocScrutinizermovieToPlay = new downloadobject20:51
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admiral0djszapi: ping20:54
admiral0djszapi: my issue is caused by wep encryption20:55
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admiral0any encription: WEP64 and WEP128 makes joikuspot useless20:58
admiral0open ap works though20:59
djszapipawky is the master of those issues ;-) flattering, flattering. :)20:59
admiral0is there any log anywhere?20:59
admiral0<- rage21:00
admiral0joikuspot = proprietary crap21:00
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djszapiis my qt-components page initialized before pushing that page onto the stack, or just at that time ? I would need to initialize some variables on the settings page, but I do not load it by default.21:07
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faenildjszapi: you there?21:15
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faenilI've seen the code with pincharea and flickable has been commented here21:16
djszapiyes, that is my code xD21:16
faenilso you know how to make that shit work? XD21:16
djszapinot for your case, sorry.21:17
faenila simple image viewer...there's nothing like that made in qml it seems...21:17
djszapithere is.21:17
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faenildon't tell me flickr demo :D21:18
faenilI have found no qml apps using "decent" pinchtozoom21:18
djszapiZogG_laptop did some thingie.21:18
djszapinot sure he used that21:18
djszapiI realized it is not worth writing a qml app because you then either need to fix kde bugs, or qt-components, or even qt bugs. :D21:19
faenilI'm heading to that road too... :(21:20
djszapiis there an example somewhere how to define an own enumeration in qml and then use it ?21:21
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* djszapi will prolly look into the qt-components code21:22
djszapimmmh, there is none in qt-components, interesting.21:23
djszapiJavascript is weakly typed... I am apparently not the first one interested in this:
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damaltorhey guys, is there a realistic way to run java apps (jad/jar) on the n9? i guess we cannot just apt-get install some java runtime...21:29
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admiral0seems that the n9 is ignoring arp requests in wep mode21:30
admiral0who is the genius who did that?21:30
damaltorhahaa :D21:30
admiral0result: n9 is listening, but doesn't answer to arp requests like  "who the fuck is the gateway?"21:31
nix-cyrusbtw guys.. if someone still didn't vote..
DocScrutinizeradmiral0: yoghurt sport?21:33
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admiral0DocScrutinizer: ?121:33
DocScrutinizerwhy would N9 have to answer "who's the gateway?" ARP requests, unless you run jokuspot?21:34
admiral0i do run joikuspot21:34
admiral0it happens when i'm in joikuspot with wep crypto21:34
DocScrutinizerso what's unclear about my prev question then? ;-D21:35
admiral0it did run time ago21:35
DocScrutinizerjust wanted to make sure about you running it21:35
djszapiCan I make a property const in qml ?21:35
admiral0the same config did work a week ago21:36
admiral0what happened21:36
admiral0all seems ok on nokia side21:36
admiral0wifi up21:36
admiral0ip is set21:36
admiral0i do get response in DHCP21:36
admiral0but i can't ping gateway21:37
admiral0and my machine doesn't know where is the gateway21:37
admiral0want to take a look to wireshark dump?21:37
DocScrutinizernow that's odd as it should know from DHCP lease21:37
DocScrutinizernah, no time to study your wireshark dump, sorry21:38
admiral0yea, but ignoring arp who-has gateway_ip is also odd21:38
DocScrutinizerotoh I'm not sure yoghurt sport implements a proper AP aka managed mode21:39
DocScrutinizeriirc it exploits ad-hoc21:40
DocScrutinizerand ad-hoc I dunno if ARP makes any sense at all21:40
admiral0it is ad-hoc21:41
ZogG_laptopfaenil: what image viewer you wanted?21:45
faenilI'm just trying to make an imageviewer with a nice pinchtozoom21:45
faenilbut pincharea+flickable are making my life impossibile21:45
ZogG_laptopor, didn't use it, just fixed to screen that's it21:46
faenilwhat do you mean?21:46
ZogG_laptopyou want zoom with multitouch?21:47
ZogG_laptopfirst of all venemo's game i think use something simuliar21:47
ZogG_laptopsime has no zoom in or out21:47
ZogG_laptopjust fix the fipucte to width21:47
ZogG_laptopthat's it21:47
faenilok then no problem, I'll keep crashing my head against the wall21:48
ZogG_laptopwhat do you want to do?21:48
faeniljust a pinchtozoom as the ones you see on recent phones21:48
faenilnot a dumb one21:48
ZogG_laptopand what app are ou doing?21:48
faenilan imageviewer21:48
ZogG_laptopfiles or from gallery?21:49
faenilthat doesn't matter21:49
ZogG_laptopnix-cyrus: on n9 with pintch to zoom21:50
nix-cyrusZogG_laptop: and what is wrong with default galery?21:50
ZogG_laptopnix-cyrus: nothing for me21:50
faenilthe fact that I want to make my own one21:50
faenilis the code for the default gallery open?21:51
djszapiCan one describe me the difference between "==" and "===" in qml ? Same question for "!=" and "!==".21:51
ZogG_laptopfaenil: maybe you should turn of flickable are on multi input?21:51
faenil== uses type cohercion, === doesn't21:51
ZogG_laptopand than it would be working as zoom only?21:51
faenilof course, that's not the problem :)21:51
ZogG_laptopand what is the problem?21:52
faenilthe problem is zooming where the user pinches and then still be able to let him scroll the whole image21:52
faenilby adjusting contentX and Y21:52
faenilnix-cyrus: is the code of the default gallery open?21:53
DocScrutinizeradmiral0: did you any kernel update lately?21:53
admiral0DocScrutinizer: nope21:53
admiral0DocScrutinizer: i'm in closed mode21:53
nix-cyrusfaenil: idk.. I think it's not21:53
faenilnix-cyrus: then you have the problem :)21:54
DocScrutinizeraiui yoghurt needs a kernel module to make things work21:54
nix-cyrus:) yeah)21:54
ZogG_laptopfaenil: i only think of what i said before, to act different if it's 1 or more input21:54
admiral0DocScrutinizer: i think i'm gonna backup, then flash, then flash open mode21:54
faenilZogG_laptop: you're not getting me :) that already works21:54
DocScrutinizeradmiral0: what purpose?21:55
ZogG_laptopfaenil: so what doesn't?21:55
admiral0i hate aegis21:55
faenilyou pinchtozoom, the image gets scaled21:55
faenilthe scale transformation has to use the as origin!21:55
DocScrutinizeranyway in openmode you should be able to run proper FOSS alternative to joiku21:56
faeniland when you you finish scaling, you have to be able to scroll through the whole image (to do this, you need to change contentHeight/width, and ContentX/Y)21:56
faeniland when you have the scaled image and want to zoom out21:56
admiral0and i would be able to tinker myself with nat21:56
faenilthe reversed scaling trasnformation has to use that NEW point as the origin21:56
faeniland go back smoothly by keeping that point as center21:57
faeniland then center the image to the screen at the same time21:57
faenilif you manage to do all those things with pincharea + flickable, you're my hero ;)21:58
ZogG_laptopfaenil: are you doing opensource?21:59
faenilZogG_laptop: why?22:00
ZogG_laptopjust wonder to check the code after22:00
faenilnah the code is full of comments and shit ;) not worth checking22:01
ZogG_laptopfaenil: i think there is somewhere flow gallery or something i dunno if it opensource though22:01
faeniland it's just 20-30 lines for that22:01
faenilall the examples I have found use stupid pinchtozoom..22:01
ZogG_laptopfaenil: that's why my app is not published yes22:01
ZogG_laptoponly debs for now22:02
djszapifaenil: thanks for the hint.22:02
ZogG_laptopthough second project we started as opensource with nix-cyrus22:02
faenildjszapi: np ;)22:02
nix-cyrusahaha - I'm just looking for bugs :P22:03
ZogG_laptopnix-cyrus: stop winning and install sdk properly already22:05
djszapiany ideas how to get mp4 files played in the builtin video player ?22:05
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: use opne video player =P22:05
Saviqhey, I'm trying to "migrate" my pictures from another phone to the N9, any ideas? I tried putting them into DCIM and Pictures folders, but they seem to be handled by some DB that isn't updated :/22:05
djszapiI really wonder why mp4 is not okay, if the platform supports it after all. Mostly since it is just a container type.22:06
itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: were you ever able to determine what was inside the mp4 file22:09
itsnotabigtrucka lot of embedded video accelerators/dsp programs/etc. are very picky about the codecs and codec options in use22:10
itsnotabigtruckit's entirely possible it only supports a certain range of resolutions, frame rates, etc.22:10
itsnotabigtruckand as was pointed out earlier, it might not actually be an h.264 video inside22:10
djszapiI do not personally care22:11
djszapiit should play it.22:11
djszapiif not, it is a bug imho.22:11
djszapiand I pointed out earlier, windows solution does not work on Linux (no, I do not wanna mess up with/virtualstuff/windowsexe).22:13
djszapibut I better just well convert it to flac, or some compatible format.22:14
ZogG_laptopflac is audio22:14
ZogG_laptopmp4 is video22:14
djszapisince that is the cleanest way anyway22:16
_MeeGoBot_Bug 760 nor, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, NEW, Joikuspot fails with WEP encryption set22:16
djszapiadmiral0: wanna me to put a wfm comment or what ? :)22:16
admiral0why not :P22:17
djszapiright, doing ...22:17
damaltordjszapi: the n9's version of mp4 handling seems quite nonstandard anyway. i put the mp4 files which were preloaded on the n9 (i had the trailer of MIB3 and some dolby video of a black chick making noises) onto my computer and on a galaxy s2, both of which could play the video only without sound. on my pc i finally found a way, but the galaxy s2 had no chance of really playing the video in the end22:17
itsnotabigtruckbtw any idea why joikuspot says 'not allowed' when launching it22:18
djszapidamaltor: works for me in youtube22:18
itsnotabigtruckis there some carrier blacklist that it doesn't let you use joikuspot with, or is this just a misconfiguration22:18
admiral0itsnotabigtruck: carrier?22:19
itsnotabigtruckadmiral0: as in phone carrier22:19
admiral0i meant: your carrier?22:19
damaltordjszapi: youtube? what youtube? :D i meant the preinstalled videos in ~/MyDocs22:19
itsnotabigtruckadmiral0: oh, at&t (us)22:19
admiral0itsnotabigtruck: can be22:20
djszapidamaltor: mp4 on youtube works oob22:20
itsnotabigtruckit already blacklists using credit card payment on ovi for at&t customers22:20
itsnotabigtruckin an attempt to force people to use operator billing (where at&t gets a cut of hte action)22:20
* admiral0 is getting angry22:21
damaltoryes, youtube is no problem i guess.. but i ahd somemp4 vids too which wouldnt play on the n9. either way the videos on the n9 wouldnt play elsewhere. i guess there are some weird, but free, codecs installed while nonfree, but often used codecs are missing22:22
itsnotabigtruckadmiral0: if you're on windows you could tether with nokia suite instead22:22
admiral0what's that ;)?22:22
itsnotabigtruckoh wait22:22
itsnotabigtruckhold on22:23
itsnotabigtruckhook your phone up with usb22:23
itsnotabigtruckput it in sync and connect mode22:23
admiral0yeah yeah i know22:23
admiral0ppp0 and i'm there22:23
itsnotabigtruckthen go into network manager and add a mobile broadband connection22:23
djszapidamaltor: I personally propose the conversion.22:23
admiral0my laptop can'thandle power drain for the n922:23
admiral0i have an almost dead battery on the laptop22:24
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damaltordjszapi: lokks like converting the videos beforehand is better anyway, as the display doesnt need any hd movies. the tv-out is crap also, so there is no reason not to make the videos fit the screen size (and while one is doing that, one can easily find a suitable codec too)22:28
djszapidamaltor: screen size is not really a problem to me.22:30
djszapibut this made the trick yes: ffmpeg -i Mridanga\ Lessons\ Pt.\ 10.mp4 -f flv -s 640x480 -r 10 -b:2000kbps -g 100 -acodec libmp3lame -ar 22050 -ab 48000 -ac 1 -y Mridanga\ Lessons\ Pt.\ 10.flv22:30
ZogG_laptopdamaltor: dlna?22:30
ZogG_laptopor is it caleld dnla...22:30
SaviqZogG_laptop, "Digital Living..." IIRC22:31
damaltorwait, you convert videos INTO flv format?22:31
djszapiof course.22:31
damaltornobody likes flv... i usually try to get away from flv asap22:31
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djszapiwell, the story is simple: mp4 does not work, flv does work.22:31
bluesleeany chances to revert the latest apt command?22:32
damaltori usually make avi files with divx and liblame mp3.22:32
ZogG_laptopmkv ftw22:32
djszapiblueslee: what would you like to revert ?22:32
djszapidamaltor: honestly, I do not care, just let it work ...22:33
djszapiand since my other mridanga lessons are in flv, and they work, I tried to remain consistent.22:33
bluesleedjszapi: please dont ask me:-) i did something i should not, i did an "apt-get install tar" and apt asked if it should remove some packages ... i come back to my desktop and had a look at my n9 and it removed more or less all packages22:35
bluesleedont hurt me ...22:35
djszapiapt-get -f install22:35
djszapiunsure it helps, but hey: it is not a toy to remove the system for fun ;-)22:36
djszapidamaltor: the teacher's head is quite ugly in the converted video though :D22:37
bluesleei dont know how that happened, tar was installed, i need a newer version, so ... it took the one from harmattan-dev22:37
djszapipoor blueslee :D22:37
damaltorharmattan-dev can be an asshole.. :/22:37
djszapiinterestingly enough, the flv is not the double the size as they write, but actually half..22:38
bluesleedpkg says "sh ..." not found22:38
bluesleei will reflash in the end22:39
djszapidamaltor: heh, that resolution is still not okay for Harmattan :/22:39
djszapiI wonder what resolution would be fine for it.22:40
damaltordjszapi: what if you put the 854x480 or whatever the display has?22:40
bluesleeis there something that i can use for ls22:41
djszapiI began with that ...22:41
djszapithen 640x48022:41
bluesleewhich packages contains ls?:-)22:41
djszapiI bet it asks for smaller.22:41
djszapiblueslee: you even deleted the busybox ? :D22:41
djszapidamaltor: I wish I could check out the resolution of the working flvs.22:42
bluesleeis there a metapackage which reinstalls everything?22:43
damaltorshouldnt _any_ resolution be possible to convert to?22:43
djszapidamaltor: tell it to the Harmattan player.22:44
djszapiofc ffmpeg can do anything.22:44
djszapiblueslee: yes, it is cold flasher.22:44
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djszapiwe might need a converter app for Harmattan, if this is the case.22:48
djszapisomeone pushing like that into OVI soon'ish ? ;)22:48
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bluesleewhat a day22:53
djszapiheh, I converted to another resolution, and I am now getting the error message, the file type is not okay. The video player is my antagonist =)22:53
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petteriany easy way execute program from qml code. Something like system(). I would like to have an app that is big button which executes rsync22:59
djszapipetteri: Q_INVOKABLE wrapper in C++.23:00
djszapisecondly, you might wanna use QProcess instead of system.23:00
petteridjszapi: ok, thanks I'll google with those23:01
djszapiyou can use a simple slot, too instead of invokable.23:01
* djszapi dislikes the fact every separate merge request requires a separate branch or reverting for gitorious...23:10
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bluesleewe need something like backup-menu for th en923:14
djszapiyou could still backup your data.23:16
djszapiyou just need to mount your N9 partition, and then copy/paste.23:16
bluesleehehe, i was not able to do anything, there was no cp, ls, no mount ... hehe23:17
bluesleei flashed only rootfs to backup my backup from MyDocs/.backups and other data there23:18
djszapithat is why I said mount23:18
djszapiif you mount your stuff, you can use your host's commands.23:19
bluesleenow i have to do flash also mmc as the n9 asks for acoount pwds after reboots23:19
bluesleedjszapi: multiboot is available for the n9, th enext step would be a rescue linux / backup-menu23:20
djszapinot sure what you mean23:21
bluesleedjszapi: on the n900 i used backup menu to restore everything and it works perfectly23:22
bluesleethe defaul backup/restore is not enough23:22
bluesleeat least for me23:22
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bluesleei guess, i will avoid devel repos for some months:-)23:24
infobotsomebody said wazd was The Greatest Prince of the Universe23:26
djszapiVenemo: o/23:26
djszapi~seen wazd23:26
infobotwazd <> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 64d 7h 14m 2s ago, saying: 'Venemo: wazzup? :)'.23:26
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djszapiso what do you guys use for settinga value ? I would like to set the value of a timer including "no time limit", but I do not just find the proper ui design for it. Sliders (like the brightness in the general settings) is not okay for this in my opinion because the game players should see the precise value directly.23:28
djszapiselectiondialog is too static as well, so something like the spinbox on desktop would be cool, if there is some alternative ui concept on mobile.23:29
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djszapiI will use a slider + label for now.23:35
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