| DocScrutinizer | I guess that's just because spell checkers blow chunks big time, when you run them against a usual *.c or *.h file | 00:01 |
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| * DocScrutinizer can't recall if e.g. qt-linguist has a spell check built in | 00:02 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | would make much sense | 00:02 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you bet that crap used for qml (if there's any) won't have any spellchecker | 00:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | but hey, that's what Nokia is forcing us to use and thus forcing things to be | 00:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | I actually adore this concept of "if you don't code it in qml, it's probably not supported on HARM"ยก | 00:05 |
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| ieatlint | actually in qml you're supposed to use qStr() to encapsulate your strings, and it's the same as tr() in qt | 00:19 |
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| ieatlint | i think a lot of the times two factors cause spelling/grammar issues... a lot of devs may not be native speakers of the language, and when you're writing an app, you're often concentrating on a lot of other things than what a string says | 00:22 |
| ieatlint | oh, and drunk coding | 00:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: I more meant anything remotely resembling qt-linguist or qt-creator, tather than the function call like tr() or qStr() | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | rather* | 00:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | no idea if there's *anything* for qml | 00:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/qt-creator/qt Designer/ | 00:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | when fremantle went gtk->qt for suggested and supported toolkit, I thought WOW. When they introduced qml, this changed to MEH! | 00:44 |
| ieatlint | yeah... well, they weren't able to get mtf into a decent state, and then just dropped it on the floor for qml | 00:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | next step: qmlite - running apps on remote servers and only the GUI gets rendered in browser on board | 00:46 |
| ieatlint | i wish i could downgrade an n9... i have a few meego images from a year ago that i bet would be interesting to see in action | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, what's the problem with running meego on N9? | 00:47 |
| ieatlint | qml already supports that essentially... when you set the qml file on the viewer, it takes a QUrl... | 00:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | except for meego itself | 00:48 |
| ieatlint | no, i mean harmattan images | 00:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh | 00:48 |
| ieatlint | as far back as 0.2010.42-6 | 00:49 |
| DrGrov | I now restarted the phone after I powered it off for the reboot to make lpsmagic working. | 00:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | ieatlint: (qmlite) sure, thought as much, just they will enforce it as the only supported way to run app on N9, so they finally reached the state where you lost control of your executables completely, and they can monetize each second of usage of every single app | 00:50 |
| DrGrov | I must say it is really working out well, perfect for my needs to monitor battery consumption without needing to second guess anything. Not even need to touch the phone which makes it even better :) | 00:50 |
| ieatlint | DocScrutinizer: no no, that's not in store for the n9 | 00:51 |
| ieatlint | you're thinking of meltemi | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah, sure. You're right | 00:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | melt-me | 00:51 |
| ieatlint | nokia sure does like its winds | 00:52 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: BTW, did you want to have some charger things for the N900? | 00:52 |
| ieatlint | perhaps the next OS will be codenamed "breaking wind" in finnish | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | me produces some wind in general direction Nokia ;-P | 00:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: hm? | 00:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: how does it behave when "missed call"? | 00:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | (the lpsmagic) | 00:54 |
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| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: I have no idea since I turned it off and put it on charging :( I can test it tomorrow and report back to you, I mean test it today since it is Sunday already. That is if you like to know? | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 01:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | just suspecting conflicts between "2 missed calls" (if there's even such a thing on that lowpower screen) and what LPS is doing | 01:10 |
| DrGrov | When I had missed calls on regular low power screen it just showed an missed call upgoing arrow :D | 01:11 |
| DrGrov | So it just showed one upside arrow even though I could have 4 missed calls and 2 text messages. Just a envelope and the arrow were shown on the default low power screen. | 01:12 |
| DrGrov | What makes you think that there would be a conflict? A conflict because of "too many" events? | 01:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | because of conflicting ways the both notification daemons use | 01:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | not sure about that, just wondering | 01:14 |
| DrGrov | Ok :) | 01:17 |
| DrGrov | If that was to happen could LPS or/and the default low power screen segfault? :D | 01:17 |
| DrGrov | Gotta ask admiral0 when he joins in again to see what he has done with it | 01:24 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: BTW, did you want to have some spare N900 charger things? LIke the dual charging plug? | 01:24 |
| gabriel9 | evening | 01:28 |
| gabriel9 | is there any way to play some sound from qml? | 01:29 |
| gabriel9 | on onClicked play some mp3 | 01:29 |
| gabriel9 | swit jisus there is sound element | 01:30 |
| gabriel9 | :) | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: (segfault) I guess not | 01:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | I'd just not be surprised to find one overrides the other and makes it vanish | 01:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: (charger thing) sure, why not | 01:32 |
| DrGrov | But what if they co-exist side by side? LPS and the default low power screen? | 01:33 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: I have to try and find them charger things then, I thought that if I get them you might be interested | 01:33 |
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| ieatlint | hmm, how can i more sanely create a custom qdeclarativeitem to plot a graph to show in qml using data from another c++ backend? | 02:28 |
| ieatlint | the examples i see have me subclassing qdeclarativeitem and painting it, then using qmlRegisterType to make it accessable in qml | 02:28 |
| ieatlint | but then the object is created inside of the context, and i can't send data from the c++ backend to it to plot | 02:29 |
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| npm | after following Location API registration syntax per http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Using_location_and_maps_in_applications_Example_of_displaying_location_data_and_a_map_in_your_application.html ... howcome i get QColor::setNamedColor: Unknown color name '<APPID>' ... QColor::setNamedColor: Unknown color name '<TOKEN>' and still see warning about "Qt Location requires | 03:28 |
| npm | usage of app_id and token parameters obtained from: https://api.forum.nokia.com/ovi-api/ui/registration | 03:28 |
| npm | what is the correct syntax for the location plugin parameters?? | 03:29 |
| npm | i'm using syntax given above and/or https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTMOBILITY-1922?focusedCommentId=167174&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-167174 | 03:29 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: re spell checking, i meant in a more general sense | 03:36 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh, also, if lps-magic registers its system stats as an operator logo, then they should coexist however they would normally | 03:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also, i thought events show up as icons above the clock | 03:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | time to poke around at the source and see how it actually works | 03:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | yeah, it uses PIL to generate a PNG with the stats in /tmp | 03:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | then uses gconf to set that as the low_power_mode operator_logo | 03:40 |
| itsnotabigtruck | damn, drgrov's gone already, most of that was really for him | 03:42 |
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| sebastian | hi, any charitable soul that could help me with a hard time flashing Nokia N9 or point me to the right channel please? | 09:38 |
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| sebastian | I am flashing DFL61_HARMATTAN_20.2011.40-4.348.1_PR_348, on my 059L4L3 N9 phone, and getting "downgrade disallowed" | 09:40 |
| sebastian | it's the latest version in navifirm, so, any ideas of what can I do? | 09:40 |
| sebastian | and it's the same version reported installed in my phone by flasher, so not a downgrade at all | 09:40 |
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| ieatlint | heh, nice... just tried to use InfoBanner in the simulator, and it loaded in a symbian version that clashes with the harmattan version, meaning I can't use the simulator with that element | 10:15 |
| ieatlint | has anyone else suddenly have the built in twitter client stop working? | 10:23 |
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| ieatlint | i would assume it was just me, except i've had it happen simultaneously on two devices, while another two are continuing to work fine | 10:26 |
| dm8tbr | ieatlint: on pr1.1 it's a known bug | 10:28 |
| dm8tbr | ieatlint: there are workarounds | 10:28 |
| ieatlint | great... i'm just impressed it happened on more than once device simultaneously | 10:28 |
| dm8tbr | who knows what triggers it | 10:29 |
| ieatlint | would imply to me something in the protocol or feed | 10:30 |
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| RST38h | Ho ho ho | 10:51 |
| RST38h | I'VE DONE IT | 10:51 |
| RST38h | HO HO HO, DONE IT TWICE | 10:52 |
| ieatlint | congrats, hope you used a condom | 10:52 |
| * RST38h used a disassembler | 10:53 | |
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| ajalkane | Apps For MeeGo client doesn't work on PR1.2: | 11:30 |
| ajalkane | Aegis rejecting org.formeego.apps_0.9.15_armel.deb: package 'org.formeego.apps' origin cannot be determined -- signature check failed | 11:30 |
| ajalkane | aegis aborting dpkg -- all listed package files rejected | 11:30 |
| ajalkane | Compilation failed in require. | 11:30 |
| ajalkane | What can be done about it if anything? | 11:30 |
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| RST38h | I think you disabled installations from unknown sources | 11:30 |
| RST38h | Sure it is enabled? | 11:31 |
| ajalkane | Yes, it's enabled | 11:31 |
| ajalkane | You managed to install it on PR1.2? | 11:31 |
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| RST38h | Never tried appsformeego on pr1.2 | 11:33 |
| RST38h | the site only contains a few apps, not very interesting right now | 11:33 |
| ajalkane | True that | 11:34 |
| ajalkane | It'd be much more enticing if they provided more credentials for apps than Nokia Store | 11:34 |
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| araujo | anybody knows a nice irc client for the n9? | 12:05 |
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| nix-cyrus | araujo: irc-chatter | 12:09 |
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| araujo | nix-cyrus, is that available from the store? | 12:24 |
| araujo | where can I find it? | 12:24 |
| nix-cyrus | araujo: I think you can find all you need here http://wiki.meego.com/IRC_Chatter | 12:26 |
| araujo | ooh, thanks, this is the one I was looking for actually.... :) | 12:27 |
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| RST38x | test | 12:40 |
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| RST38h | Gentlemen, anyone knows how I can add more search engines on Harmattan? Currently it only shows Google | 12:54 |
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| Rantwolf | go to settings > programs > internet: and select your search engine | 13:06 |
| Rantwolf | there are four engines selectable | 13:08 |
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| DrGrov | ~update | 14:59 |
| infobot | somebody said update was http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 | 14:59 |
| faenil | morning people :) | 15:00 |
| DrGrov | Yo faenil :) | 15:00 |
| faenil | yo :) | 15:01 |
| DrGrov | faenil: What is going on over there? | 15:01 |
| faenil | qtday finished, yesterday :) | 15:01 |
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| xmlich02 | hi | 15:02 |
| xmlich02 | i have problem with space | 15:03 |
| xmlich02 | http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/z/space1.png | 15:03 |
| xmlich02 | pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/z/space2.png | 15:03 |
| xmlich02 | http://pastebin.com/73cg574q | 15:03 |
| DrGrov | faenil: How was the qtday? :) | 15:04 |
| faenil | very nice ;) there were some interesting talks :) | 15:04 |
| DrGrov | faenil: Some haxxoring also? :D | 15:05 |
| faenil | and I met lots of nice people :) | 15:05 |
| faenil | well yeah :) most of them are intro talks :) | 15:05 |
| DrGrov | faenil: That is great to hear that you met friendly & nice people :) | 15:05 |
| faenil | yup :) | 15:05 |
| DrGrov | faenil: Is it difficult to learn to code in Qt? | 15:06 |
| faenil | it depends on how much you already know :) | 15:07 |
| faenil | Qt is there to make things easier :) | 15:07 |
| faenil | so if you're a c++ coder, it will be easy | 15:07 |
| DrGrov | I am no coder :/ But I would love to learn :) | 15:07 |
| DrGrov | faenil: But apparently that can not be too difficult even now without any previous experience or does it take a lot of time? | 15:11 |
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| faenil | DrGrov: you can always learn, nothing is impossible :) | 15:53 |
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| y0nd13 | hi, | 15:57 |
| faenil | hi | 15:57 |
| y0nd13 | i would like to know where can i get libpcap-dev for n9? | 15:58 |
| y0nd13 | quite urgent | 15:58 |
| y0nd13 | anyone? | 15:59 |
| DrGrov | faenil: That is good news :) When I do the apt-get update as root on the N9 I find that the repos are updated. Anyway to get a hold of what is actually inside those repos? | 15:59 |
| faenil | tried looking in the packages directory? | 15:59 |
| DrGrov | faenil: Would love to find what is actually in the repos. | 16:00 |
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| faenil | y0nd13: ? | 16:02 |
| faenil | y0nd13: found it? | 16:02 |
| y0nd13 | nope | 16:04 |
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| faenil | y0nd13: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/libp/libpcap/ | 16:17 |
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| y0nd13 | how to run raw socket on n9 | 16:29 |
| y0nd13 | hurm | 16:29 |
| y0nd13 | how botu rawsocket | 16:29 |
| virtuald | is it possible to use a bluetooth internet connection with the n9 as a client? the bluetooth gateway is a dumbphone | 16:32 |
| virtuald | do i need pand? | 16:33 |
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| djszapi | Can I run some custom code in QML for a page loading ? Is there a signal for that for instance ? | 16:44 |
| virtuald | if someone would point me in the right direction it would be really nice, i don't need exact instructions | 16:49 |
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| faenil | djszapi: you mean once a page is loaded? | 16:50 |
| djszapi | yeah | 16:51 |
| faenil | onStatusChanged --> check if status == activated | 16:51 |
| faenil | you could try that :) | 16:51 |
| djszapi | onVisibleChanged: { -> that is it. | 16:51 |
| faenil | same ;) | 16:51 |
| faenil | though I'd go for the status one :D | 16:52 |
| faenil | but it really depends on what you need that for, so you can choose :) | 16:52 |
| djszapi | except that there is no onStatusChanged in the documentation. | 16:53 |
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| faenil | in the page? | 16:53 |
| faenil | QML Page? | 16:53 |
| faenil | you have the status property | 16:54 |
| faenil | so you have onStatusChanged by definition :D | 16:54 |
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| SqRt7744 | I'm having a problem with a very basic listview not reading in a xml file with XmlListModel. Can someone please have a glace at it and tell me if they see anything obviously wrong?? http://pastebin.com/yRe3aGv0 | 16:55 |
| SqRt7744 | ...it's pure Qml | 16:56 |
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| djszapi | faenil: I prefer the visibility signal because it is better documented with an example. Moreover, I think it is better to make Ui magic for visibility signal, like starting a timer. | 16:59 |
| faenil | right ;) | 17:01 |
| djszapi | Did anybody got the SoundEffect Mobility component work ? | 17:02 |
| djszapi | get* | 17:03 |
| faenil | I'm interested in that too | 17:04 |
| faenil | when I'll continue my 3d game I'll need that | 17:04 |
| faenil | and I remember it had issues | 17:04 |
| faenil | when I used it in September | 17:04 |
| faenil | and things like can't repeat the same sound more than once :O | 17:05 |
| faenil | (though that was about Sound{} or something like that) | 17:05 |
| djszapi | there is no "Sound", just "Audio". | 17:05 |
| faenil | yeah Audio | 17:06 |
| faenil | that was it | 17:06 |
| djszapi | but yes, games should really not use "Audio" for effects. That is what the "SoundEffect" was designed for with the policy framework configfile. | 17:06 |
| faenil | and SoundEffect wasn't playing at all if I'm not wrong | 17:06 |
| faenil | I know, I was using Audio for the background music... | 17:06 |
| faenil | and SoundEffect for game efx | 17:06 |
| faenil | but neither was working correctly | 17:06 |
| djszapi | SoundEffect does not play here, not even wav files. "Audio" causes random crashes in my app. | 17:06 |
| faenil | exactly | 17:07 |
| faenil | I remember SoundEffect not playing | 17:07 |
| faenil | dammit it's still the same then :( | 17:07 |
| djszapi | but it plays for my colleagues :/ | 17:07 |
| faenil | ?? :O | 17:07 |
| djszapi | https://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/drummachine -> Yes, they tried this. | 17:07 |
| djszapi | have you had a policy framework config file for pulseaudio ? | 17:08 |
| faenil | nope, know nothing about pulseaudio | 17:08 |
| djszapi | have you checked the pulseaudio logs back then ? I was trying to do that, but with "SoundEffect", it seemed that way, the program (the mobility component) did not even try to start playing. | 17:08 |
| faenil | no I did not | 17:08 |
| djszapi | interesting how other applications are getting the audio work. | 17:09 |
| faenil | -.- | 17:09 |
| faenil | I'm 100% I had the same problem (i.e. SoundEffect was not playing) | 17:09 |
| djszapi | but you did try "wav" files, right ? | 17:10 |
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| faenil | yes If I'm not wrong...wav and mp3 | 17:10 |
| faenil | but not sure about that | 17:10 |
| djszapi | only wav supported | 17:11 |
| faenil | almost 100% sure about trying wav | 17:11 |
| faenil | okay then ok ;) | 17:11 |
| faenil | I must have read that back then | 17:11 |
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| djszapi | Also, I wonder why they did not add a property for avoiding the configuration file thingie. | 17:13 |
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| faenil | -.- | 17:13 |
| faenil | I did not know it needed a config file to play sounds | 17:14 |
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| djszapi | heh, it should not theoritically in simple cases. | 17:14 |
| jonni | Im using SoundEffect in my qml ovistore app, works just fine | 17:14 |
| djszapi | but that is apparently not the practice. | 17:14 |
| jonni | no need to any configs | 17:14 |
| faenil | -.- wth is wrong with soundeffect then xD | 17:15 |
| djszapi | yes, there is | 17:16 |
| jonni | maybe forgotten to put the file inside the deb package? :) | 17:16 |
| djszapi | read the policy framework documentation. It is surely needed for mixing stuff | 17:16 |
| faenil | nope :P it was in the qrc | 17:16 |
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| djszapi | it is probably gonna work if there is no such a situation (like background track playing in a music player), but otherwise you might have troubles with the policy framework configuration with pulseaudio. | 17:17 |
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| faenil | ouch | 17:17 |
| djszapi | so doing correct, one should install a pulseaudio config stuff, and load the module in the postinst script in some way: either pulseaudio stop/start or pulsectl | 17:18 |
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| jonni | faenil: I'm playing my wav file from qrc too with SoundEffect, and manifest.aegis doesnt request anything | 17:18 |
| djszapi | the config file is rather simple though: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/kanagram.conf | 17:19 |
| djszapi | well, I do not know the mobility codebase. | 17:20 |
| djszapi | according to the pulseaudio log file, the "SoundEffect" element did not even start playing for mySoundEffect.play() | 17:20 |
| djszapi | and console.log("BEFORE/AFTER_SOUND_EFFECT") worked just fine. Moreover Audio element played even if it caused random crash | 17:20 |
| djszapi | so one with mobility codebase knowledge should take a look at it since it is most likely a mobility bug. | 17:21 |
| djszapi | or underlying QMediaPlayer API bug. | 17:22 |
| djszapi | sorry, nope, that is for the Audio bug because SoundEffect uses a distinct underlying technology. | 17:24 |
| djszapi | recap: both are buggy :D | 17:24 |
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| y0nd132 | anyone knows how to run rawsocket program on our n9 | 17:25 |
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| djszapi | faenil: what you could do is to write a simple qml file an open it up in the qmlviewer. | 17:25 |
| djszapi | and* | 17:25 |
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| jonni | for me atleast SoundEffect { id: sound, source : "foo.war" } works just file if I call sound.play() | 17:26 |
| jonni | foo.war -> foo.wav even | 17:26 |
| faenil | :D | 17:26 |
| faenil | yeah I'll try that when I have some time...coding atm :) | 17:26 |
| djszapi | jonni: but it does not work for us :D | 17:26 |
| jonni | djszapi: which pr release? | 17:27 |
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| djszapi | tried 1.1 and 1.2 | 17:27 |
| djszapi | even internal beleeding edge. | 17:27 |
| djszapi | but I did not have time for a simple workhorse yet as I mentioned above. | 17:29 |
| djszapi | my app and drummachine did not work at least. | 17:29 |
| jonni | I've tested it with 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2 and deb is in ovi store and havent had any reports that it would not work. | 17:35 |
| jonni | soundeffect did have some features that it does not regognize all the formats or bitrates | 17:35 |
| jonni | and your not allowed to use volume: as its not supported in N9, even if API ducumentation has it :=) | 17:37 |
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| jonni | (some of the mobility guys are sitting in the same floor as me, so its a feature...) | 17:45 |
| djszapi | I am sorry, but I have a terrible internet connection | 17:46 |
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| djszapi | mobility is one of the most fragile bits on Harmattan. | 17:48 |
| jonni | might be that if your app has policy file it might block the usage of SoundEffect, as afaik its really meant to be used without pulseaudio policies. Atleast it has worked for me without doing any policy files. | 17:49 |
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| jonni | but its more likely that it doesnt regognize the format or bitrate of the file. | 17:50 |
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| djszapi | I think you misunderstood the design principles behind the policy framework. You might wanna read the relevant documentation. At least it is properly documented. | 17:51 |
| djszapi | That is the exact point behind the SoundEffect usage so that you /need/ to have a policy file, otherwise the mixing will screw up without proper priorities and all that jazz. | 17:52 |
| jonni | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/qtmobility/qml-soundeffect.html <- show me the line where it says that you need policy file? | 17:52 |
| djszapi | Please bring harmattan documentation on Harmattan platform. | 17:53 |
| jonni | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qtmobility/qml-soundeffect.html <- show the line in there? | 17:54 |
| djszapi | this is not the harmattan resource policy framework documentation as I said above. | 17:54 |
| djszapi | ou look at the wrong place for documentation. | 17:55 |
| djszapi | you* | 17:55 |
| jonni | well mobility guys did the api in a way which bypassed the policy framework | 17:55 |
| djszapi | which is not ture | 17:56 |
| djszapi | true* | 17:56 |
| djszapi | this is exactly the opposite of that what I have been told by the lead pulseaudio developer and the tpo of the resource policy framework | 17:56 |
| djszapi | What you should have actually looked for is this: wiki.meego.com/images/Meego-policy-framework-developer-guide.pdf | 17:57 |
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| jonni | ohwell, maybe Im just then lucky that my app works without policy | 17:57 |
| djszapi | it is not any "lucky" related thing. As I said above, your application would be buggy | 17:57 |
| djszapi | ofcourse anything will work if your application is the only one running and no other music. | 17:58 |
| djszapi | but please read the documentation to understand these things better. | 17:58 |
| ajalkane | I don't understand how to close the virtual keyboard in QML when user presses enter | 17:58 |
| ajalkane | Anyone know how to do it? | 17:58 |
| ajalkane | I know how to close, but how to detect enter was pressed from TextField QML component | 17:58 |
| jonni | ajalkane: most likely the keyevent is return and not enter, or vice versa, there was forum thread about it a while back. | 18:00 |
| ajalkane | jonni: I can't even see in the TextField document any way to latch on to events. Does that have to be done in C++= | 18:02 |
| faenil | please tell me someone has already used resizeContent of Flickable qml | 18:02 |
| faenil | after calling it I get contentX = -12000+ | 18:03 |
| djszapi | jonni: some onTextChanged thingie ? | 18:03 |
| djszapi | ajalkane& | 18:03 |
| djszapi | faenil: even a simple qml app with just a soundeffect does not work :D | 18:04 |
| faenil | good | 18:04 |
| jonni | ajalkane: google Keys.onPressed: | 18:06 |
| djszapi | faenil: it was designed for that we need to sign while playing xD | 18:07 |
| djszapi | sing* | 18:07 |
| faenil | ahahah | 18:07 |
| djszapi | what bugs me is that it was a known issue 1-2 years ago as well | 18:08 |
| faenil | yeah... : | 18:08 |
| faenil | :( | 18:08 |
| djszapi | and apparently they did not "visibly" work on it. | 18:08 |
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| djszapi | I spent 3 days with debugging the random crash in my app by the time I realized it is a damn mobility issue :D :D | 18:09 |
| faenil | :) | 18:10 |
| djszapi | there is no pause method for the Timer, really ? :) | 18:12 |
| faenil | stop() and then start()? | 18:12 |
| ajalkane | jonni: ok thanks, I'll check | 18:13 |
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| djszapi | faenil: that starts with the "permanent" value. | 18:14 |
| djszapi | I would like to go to the settings page, and then back, but I would not like to restart the whole timer. | 18:15 |
| faenil | I know what you mean.. | 18:15 |
| faenil | what you mean by permanent value? | 18:15 |
| djszapi | what you hard code into the interval. | 18:15 |
| djszapi | for permanently. | 18:15 |
| faenil | so you think stop() is like reset? | 18:16 |
| djszapi | no | 18:16 |
| djszapi | stop is stop, like in music/audio thingy. | 18:16 |
| djszapi | pause is pause. | 18:16 |
| djszapi | I need pause functionality. | 18:17 |
| djszapi | but apparently even the C++ QTimer does not have such a though. | 18:17 |
| faenil | stop resets the timer | 18:17 |
| djszapi | thought* | 18:17 |
| faenil | yeah it seems it doesn't | 18:17 |
| * faenil is reading the sourcecode | 18:18 | |
| djszapi | that is sort of weird, isn't it ? :) | 18:18 |
| faenil | it is...-.- | 18:18 |
| faenil | as the missing velocity in a pangesture | 18:18 |
| faenil | which is causing so much trouble to me | 18:18 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | ajalkane: still around? | 18:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | you need aegis-community-source-policy installed first | 18:20 |
| djszapi | faenil: interesting, I cannot even get the current value of the timer, so no workaround for pause functionality ahahaha :D | 18:20 |
| faenil | ehehehe | 18:21 |
| faenil | there's a reason for the pause method not being there :P | 18:21 |
| djszapi | I am sure I am misreading something since I cannot believe that you cannot make a timer pause | 18:21 |
| faenil | well you could use a homemade timer | 18:21 |
| faenil | QDateTime::currentMsSinceEpoch() | 18:21 |
| faenil | save the passed ms when pausing | 18:22 |
| djszapi | no, I will personally patch QTimer in C++. | 18:22 |
| faenil | :) | 18:22 |
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| faenil | let me know if you do ;) | 18:22 |
| djszapi | I mean ... it is not a mobile concept to have a timer pausable :) | 18:22 |
| blueslee | hmmm ... libxml2-dev: Depends: libxml2 (= 2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6) but 2.7.8-0maemo5+0m6 is to be installed | 18:22 |
| djszapi | they cannot really say it is a new use case :) | 18:22 |
| faenil | :D | 18:23 |
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| faenil | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-20572?page=com.atlassian.streams.streams-jira-plugin:activity-stream-issue-tab | 18:25 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hmm, has aptitude been ported to n9 yet? | 18:26 |
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| djszapi | faenil: I understood why pause does not make too much sense in QTimer :D | 18:46 |
| faenil | :) | 18:47 |
| faenil | and that is? | 18:49 |
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| djszapi | faenil: well, you need to track the time in the client code, right ? | 18:58 |
| djszapi | so you basically need two timers for this downcounting purpose, right ? | 18:59 |
| faenil | ok | 18:59 |
| djszapi | if you already need to track the time, why not put it into a variable and restart with that ? | 18:59 |
| djszapi | I bet not many QTimer users would accept it. | 18:59 |
| djszapi | we could make a QPlausableTimer though. | 18:59 |
| faenil | :) | 19:00 |
| djszapi | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-20572 | 19:00 |
| faenil | already found | 19:01 |
| blueslee | i have some issues with libxml2-dev: Depends: libxml2 (= 2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6) but 2.7.8-0maemo5+0m6 is to be installed | 19:07 |
| blueslee | how can i proceed? | 19:07 |
| blueslee | the maemo4 named package is from here http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/libx/libxml2/ | 19:08 |
| ajalkane | Got the closing on return working, thanks jonni | 19:08 |
| ajalkane | now the problem is losing focus then | 19:08 |
| ajalkane | TextField does not properly alias focus property X-( | 19:09 |
| ajalkane | I mean when the vkb is closed, the element should lose focus, so that it can be activated again by clicking the field | 19:09 |
| ajalkane | i guess some hacking around is needed | 19:09 |
| djszapi | blueslee: rename or repackage :) | 19:10 |
| blueslee | djszapi: just rename? | 19:10 |
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| ajalkane | itsnotabigtruck: how to install that policy? | 19:12 |
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| ajalkane | ok got focus correctly now... damn ugly solution. | 19:12 |
| blueslee | djszapi: how do i repackage this guy on an n9? | 19:13 |
| djszapi | you have the tar.gz | 19:14 |
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| blueslee | i have the deb | 19:14 |
| djszapi | ... which is not correct | 19:14 |
| blueslee | yepp | 19:14 |
| djszapi | you can try to force the installation, too, but I would repackage it. | 19:14 |
| djszapi | also, please always provide a full console output, not what you think is important. | 19:15 |
| djszapi | (yes even the command you executed) | 19:15 |
| blueslee | djszapi: http://pastebin.de/22884 | 19:16 |
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| blueslee | how should i force installation | 19:17 |
| djszapi | dpkg --help please. | 19:18 |
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| djszapi | blueslee: so you have a wrong version installed. Why not install the correct one from the repository ? | 19:19 |
| blueslee | ;:-) | 19:19 |
| djszapi | you actually wrote the opposite above | 19:19 |
| blueslee | where is the correct one? | 19:19 |
| djszapi | that is why I could not believe it ... | 19:19 |
| djszapi | the link you pasted. | 19:19 |
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| djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6_armel.deb | 19:20 |
| blueslee | i dont want to break dependencies on my n9 | 19:20 |
| blueslee | there the package is named libxml2*maemo5* | 19:21 |
| djszapi | then do not use it :) | 19:21 |
| blueslee | i need a dev package for building perl modules which are missing | 19:22 |
| djszapi | then follow my instructions. | 19:22 |
| djszapi | I do not know any other way around than those. | 19:22 |
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| blueslee | hmm, forcing installation of libxml2-dev*maemo4* did not work for compilation | 19:24 |
| blueslee | djszapi: i guess the preinstalled libxml2*maemo5* is provided by nokia, they also should provide the dev package | 19:26 |
| djszapi | that is not the root cause of the issue | 19:26 |
| blueslee | and i do not understand why packages are named maemox with x=5 or even 4:-) | 19:26 |
| djszapi | you do not need to. | 19:26 |
| blueslee | i know djszapi, i know, but i want to solve my issue:-) | 19:27 |
| blueslee | maybe i can get the correct dev package using the sdk? | 19:30 |
| djszapi | blueslee: I would repeackage it. | 19:30 |
| npm | so PR1.2 when "set time automaticallY' is enabled is in wrong timezone. Any reason why I shouldn't fix by re-symlinking this from etc: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 Jan 28 21:06 localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York | 19:31 |
| djszapi | repackage, and tell me the packaging bug (most likely simple dependency thingie in the control file), and I will raise the issue internally inside the SDK team. | 19:31 |
| blueslee | okay, i will try it with dpkg-deb | 19:32 |
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| djszapi | dpkg-deb ? You might wanna use dpkg-buildpackage | 19:35 |
| RST38h | CMEPTb | 19:36 |
| RST38h | mghm | 19:36 |
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| RST38h | media sharing does not appear to export .avi files over DLNA | 19:37 |
| blueslee | djszapi: how do i avoid that there is no changelog in the debain folder? | 19:38 |
| admiral0_n9 | heeeeelp | 19:38 |
| djszapi | admiral0_n9: it is not a help channel :p | 19:38 |
| * djszapi hies | 19:38 | |
| djszapi | hides, even* :) | 19:38 |
| blueslee | djszapi: http://pastebin.de/22885 | 19:38 |
| djszapi | blueslee: there should be. | 19:38 |
| blueslee | hehe | 19:38 |
| admiral0_n9 | nat module is missing | 19:38 |
| admiral0_n9 | wtf | 19:38 |
| admiral0_n9 | tethering doesn't work.... | 19:39 |
| djszapi | yes, of course. | 19:39 |
| RST38h | is it a surprise? | 19:39 |
| djszapi | known design decision for a quite while. | 19:39 |
| SpeedEvil | NAT is not present, you need to install a new kernel, and as I understand it, wipe user data. | 19:39 |
| blueslee | djszapi: in debian there is a control file which i modified and some has sums | 19:39 |
| djszapi | and no changelog ? | 19:39 |
| blueslee | djszapi: thats right | 19:40 |
| djszapi | blah meh | 19:40 |
| admiral0_n9 | i must flash? | 19:40 |
| admiral0_n9 | ??? | 19:40 |
| djszapi | your own kernel, yes. | 19:40 |
| admiral0_n9 | joikuspot is not wofking | 19:41 |
| djszapi | blueslee: I do have changelog. | 19:41 |
| blueslee | djszapi: for the package i mentioned | 19:41 |
| djszapi | yeah | 19:42 |
| blueslee | hmm | 19:42 |
| djszapi | make sure you are /not/ inside the debian folder. | 19:42 |
| djszapi | but out of that. | 19:42 |
| djszapi | so in the package root. | 19:42 |
| admiral0_n9 | i didn't see nat and iptables -t nat returns saying module is not loaded | 19:42 |
| djszapi | joikuspot is not working .... it is a bit wide range of possibility for issues :) | 19:42 |
| blueslee | djszapi: i used "dpkg-deb -e package.deb extract/DEBIAN" | 19:42 |
| djszapi | Could you please provide more information ? | 19:42 |
| djszapi | blueslee: why would you use that hackery ? | 19:42 |
| blueslee | djszapi: i dont know it better, just googled for repackage deb | 19:43 |
| djszapi | okay, please follow my instructions: | 19:43 |
| djszapi | 1) go to your scratchbox or madde | 19:43 |
| djszapi | 2) wget -c http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta3/free/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6.tar.gz | 19:43 |
| djszapi | 3) tar xvpf libxml2_2.7.8-0maemo4+0m6.tar.gz | 19:43 |
| djszapi | 4) cd libxml2-2.7.8/ | 19:43 |
| djszapi | 5) edit the stuff | 19:44 |
| blueslee | one moment, you have a tgz | 19:44 |
| blueslee | thats fine | 19:44 |
| djszapi | 6) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot | 19:44 |
| djszapi | blueslee: why do you need libxml2 btw ? | 19:45 |
| djszapi | expat should work as well... | 19:45 |
| admiral0_n9 | the gateway(n9) doesn't respond | 19:45 |
| blueslee | djszapi: need to build perl modules which depend on libxml2-dev | 19:45 |
| djszapi | admiral0_n9: I have been using joikuspot for a while | 19:46 |
| djszapi | still doing, works fine | 19:46 |
| admiral0_n9 | wifi is associated | 19:46 |
| admiral0_n9 | dhcp works | 19:46 |
| djszapi | blueslee: cannot they depend on expat ? | 19:46 |
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| blueslee | djszapi: and i need the libxml2-dev package, your link is wrong | 19:46 |
| admiral0_n9 | i'll see what's wrong when i'm home | 19:46 |
| djszapiN950 | blueslee, no, it is correct | 19:48 |
| blueslee | but i want to repackage libxml2-dev*maemo4* | 19:48 |
| djszapiN950 | trust me | 19:49 |
| blueslee | :-) | 19:49 |
| djszapiN950 | you lack the basics of packaging, so either trust me or go amend your missings. :) | 19:49 |
| npm | hmm weird... so "powering down" doesn't actually reboot | 19:50 |
| npm | it's more like a hibernate? | 19:50 |
| npm | or maybe powering down w/ USB cable attached isn't actually powering down? | 19:50 |
| npm | otherwise, how would an ssh session survive a powerdown as it just did | 19:50 |
| * npm adds script to fix timezone s f-up on each reboot: echo "mv /etc/localtime /etc/localtime.bak ; ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles /etc/localtime" > ~/fixtimezone | 19:54 | |
| npm | man, i better get a $0.99 app so as to save myself the time of typing devel-su <password> reboot | 19:54 |
| npm | not | 19:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | npm: indeed HARM just switches runlevel on 'power down', when attached to charger | 19:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | even ssh sessions survive | 19:55 |
| blueslee | djszapiN950: okay, i trust you ... what stuff should i edit in libxml2-2.7.8 | 19:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | aah you already noticed that | 19:56 |
| djszapi | blueslee: do you need it right now I can do it for you tomorrow ? | 19:56 |
| RST38h | Oh shit | 19:56 |
| blueslee | djszapi: thats okay ... | 19:57 |
| djszapi | or* | 19:57 |
| RST38h | Rygel is running in the "struct sharing mode", and rygel.conf cannot be edited, probably because of aegis | 19:57 |
| RST38h | How useful | 19:57 |
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| DocScrutinizer | rygel?? o.O | 19:57 |
| itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer npm: but powering off when disconnected from the charger actually does power off, right? | 20:00 |
| RST38h | ha! edited it! | 20:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | itsnotabigtruck: yep | 20:05 |
| RST38h | hehehe! it works! | 20:06 |
| * RST38h made another smll victory over braindead nokia policies | 20:06 | |
| RST38h | looks like it is trying to transcode rather than sendthe .avi file as it is | 20:11 |
| * RST38h wonders why | 20:11 | |
| djszapi | btw, mp4 is not supported by the video player. Can I get it work somehow without converting the file? | 20:13 |
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| RST38h | mp4 is supported | 20:18 |
| RST38h | BOTH stock videos that come with the firmware are .mp4s | 20:19 |
| djszapi | it does not work for me in the video player. | 20:19 |
| RST38h | wrong mp4 then, mp4 is just a container after all | 20:19 |
| npm | itsnotabigtruck DocScrutinizer i'll find out next time i powerdown and not connected to charger | 20:20 |
| djszapi | I tried with at least 10 distinct mp4s from youtube | 20:20 |
| RST38h | youtube is the keyword here | 20:20 |
| RST38h | Load into something sensible, like BSPlayer, and see what video stream info says | 20:20 |
| RST38h | Probably says something like "flv video" or "h264 profile 'you-will-not-have-it'" | 20:21 |
| faenil | damn pincharea and flickable | 20:21 |
| faenil | has anybody ever made a simple image viewer with working pinchtozoom? | 20:21 |
| djszapi | RST38h: it works with mplayer, and the video player also works with flvs. | 20:21 |
| faenil | difficulties keep popping up... | 20:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | err, what's wrong with gallery on HARM? | 20:22 |
| npm | faenil: i had problems w/ pincharea grabbing mouse events and preventing stuff from working... likewise w/ flickable ... i imagine both toghether wold be even worse. | 20:22 |
| RST38h | As I said, BSPlayer, view stream info | 20:22 |
| faenil | npm: I just want to code a simple qml viewer, and they're making my life impossibile! | 20:22 |
| npm | esp w/ qtwebkit being the thing you want to display (see code.google.com/p/qtzibit ) | 20:23 |
| djszapi | RST38h: have not tried that, but it even works in youtube, just not in that video player. | 20:23 |
| djszapi | might be a video player bug. | 20:23 |
| djszapi | I will provide the file to them tomorrow. | 20:24 |
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| djszapi | on a side note, I have no idea what bsplayer is, not does pacman. | 20:24 |
| admiral0 | djszapi: hi | 20:24 |
| admiral0 | i'm back at home | 20:24 |
| djszapi | http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=bsplayer and http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&K=bsplayer&do_Search=Go -> no result in the official, nor even in the community repositories. | 20:25 |
| RST38h | It is a Windows app. | 20:26 |
| djszapi | so no go then ;-) | 20:27 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: Hi there, you the are the author of lpsmagic yes? The cool low power screen mod? | 20:27 |
| admiral0 | yep, damaltor is too | 20:27 |
| admiral0 | i am mantaining it and developing new version | 20:28 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: Ok, I installed lps-magic_1.1_armel.deb yesterday and it works perfect. Got everything displayed right. Date, battery state etc. No problems at all. | 20:28 |
| admiral0 | :) | 20:28 |
| DrGrov | But I still wonder that what does happen if I get 2 missed calls or 2 SMS that pop up on the lock screen? How is it displayed if there is 2 missed calls/SMS? | 20:29 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: It is very cool to see uptime as well with lpsmagic. The best though has to be the possibility to monitor battery usage with the cool % sign :) | 20:30 |
| admiral0 | :) | 20:30 |
| admiral0 | i just substitute operator logo | 20:30 |
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| admiral0 | other notifications are not changed | 20:30 |
| DrGrov | So I know when to charge etc. :) So if I have 2 missed calls or SMS? Does it just show the upgoing arrow for missed calls and envelope for SMS? | 20:31 |
| admiral0 | yes | 20:31 |
| admiral0 | those are done by the low power mode program itself | 20:31 |
| DrGrov | Ok, so then I do not know if I have 1,2,3,4 or more missed calls or received SMS. Good like that :) Does not clutter too much :) | 20:31 |
| RST38h | OMG WP7 is invading Harmattan firmware | 20:32 |
| admiral0 | ?! | 20:32 |
| DrGrov | ?!? | 20:32 |
| RST38h | -rw-r--r-- 1 user root 935 Jan 25 23:13 cyan-rectangles-sgx_786.txt | 20:32 |
| RST38h | -rw-r--r-- 1 user root 935 Jan 25 23:42 cyan-rectangles-sgx_836.txt | 20:32 |
| RST38h | -rw-r--r-- 1 user root 935 Jan 29 16:50 cyan-rectangles-sgx_837.txt | 20:32 |
| RST38h | -rw-r--r-- 1 user root 2992 Jan 26 01:44 cyan-rectangles-sgx_841.txt | 20:32 |
| RST38h | these files arebeing created in MyDocs | 20:32 |
| admiral0 | RST38h: dafuq? | 20:32 |
| RST38h | dunno | 20:32 |
| admiral0 | what are the contents | 20:32 |
| RST38h | But I only know of one variety of cyan rectangles =) | 20:33 |
| RST38h | look for yourself | 20:33 |
| admiral0 | i am currently in "wtf" mode with joikuspot | 20:33 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: Is there any possibility in the next version of lpsmagic to get a symbol for locked screen? Like a key or something? Similar to the old S60 phones :D | 20:34 |
| admiral0 | DrGrov: ? | 20:34 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: So when the keylock is active and lpsmagic is displayed that it would show with a symbol, ex. key, that the screen is locked | 20:35 |
| admiral0 | have you got any image somewhere that shows that? | 20:35 |
| DrGrov | *screen is locked ... | 20:35 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: No, there is no image at all that shows that my screen is locked. Just the low power screen + lpsmagic. | 20:36 |
| DrGrov | But I was wondering if that could be implemented in the next version of lpsmagic. A symbol of a key that shows that the screen is locked. | 20:36 |
| dm8tbr | RST38h: on n950 and pr1.2? | 20:36 |
| admiral0 | DrGrov: ah, just a static image? | 20:37 |
| RST38h | dm8tbr: yes | 20:37 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: Yes, it would make my life a lot less paranoid :D It would be nice to see a static image that shows that the screen is locked. | 20:37 |
| admiral0 | ok | 20:37 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: May I suggest another tweak/additional thing to lpsmagic that would be cool to have around? | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | DrGrov: doesn't that sound a bit like "shoot the lamp, then light a match to look if you hit"? | 20:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | (the Russian way to extinguish lights in sleeping room) | 20:39 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Yo Doc. Nice to see you around. No, that symbol to show that the screen is locked would be good. Or how do you mean? Sure I can see that the screen is locked but would be a nice addition to see on the screen when it is locked. | 20:39 |
| admiral0 | say it in the tmo thread. i tend to forget otherwise | 20:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | tag on a switched off TV: "this TV is off" ?? .oO(???) | 20:40 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: Ok, I will register myself on TMO then to give the suggestion. | 20:40 |
| admiral0 | ;) | 20:41 |
| admiral0 | DocScrutinizer: wallpaper for pros: http://www.imgbase.info/images/safe-wallpapers/miscellaneous/funny/18678_funny_your_computer_is_on.jpg | 20:41 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: I think it would be a nice addition to see that the screen is locked with a static image of a key. | 20:41 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: But I will give it already now before I forget :D | 20:41 |
| admiral0 | DrGrov: i won't add the key image though. i'll add possibility to add images | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think the loowpower screen showing actually indicates pretty clearly that screen is locked, no? | 20:42 |
| dm8tbr | RST38h: sounds like debug code they didn't care to remove for the beta release | 20:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry, I really don't get it | 20:42 |
| DrGrov | admiral0: That is good as well :) Would be nice to add an image to lpsmagic that could show something :) | 20:43 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Ok, if you say so :) | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | is there *any* situation where LPSscreen wouldn't have to show "the screen is locked"? | 20:43 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Well if the phone is turned off :D | 20:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | bwahaha | 20:43 |
| DrGrov | Nah, forget this | 20:44 |
| DrGrov | Does not make any difference what so ever it seems | 20:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | when phone is shut off, the LPSscreen doesn't show at all, so obviously it's not an answer to my question | 20:45 |
| DrGrov | DocScrutinizer: Well I got an answer for your question. It would be nice to see a mini animation or something when the screen is being pressed. | 20:46 |
| DrGrov | That way it would be visually attractive to touch the screen | 20:46 |
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| DrGrov | Like a blinking key or wtf ever | 20:46 |
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| RST38h | ok, playing videos using DLNA is a huge fail | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, slightly changed topic but not all unreasonable | 20:49 |
| RST38h | I am not sure who came up with the idea of copying the whole movie before starting playback | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAHA | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: some CS-Prof I bet | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | or some OO wizard | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | movieToPlay = new downloadobject | 20:51 |
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| admiral0 | djszapi: ping | 20:54 |
| admiral0 | djszapi: my issue is caused by wep encryption | 20:55 |
| admiral0 | :\ | 20:55 |
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| admiral0 | -.- | 20:58 |
| admiral0 | any encription: WEP64 and WEP128 makes joikuspot useless | 20:58 |
| admiral0 | open ap works though | 20:59 |
| djszapi | pawky is the master of those issues ;-) flattering, flattering. :) | 20:59 |
| admiral0 | is there any log anywhere? | 20:59 |
| admiral0 | <- rage | 21:00 |
| admiral0 | joikuspot = proprietary crap | 21:00 |
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| djszapi | is my qt-components page initialized before pushing that page onto the stack, or just at that time ? I would need to initialize some variables on the settings page, but I do not load it by default. | 21:07 |
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| faenil | djszapi: you there? | 21:15 |
| djszapi | yep | 21:15 |
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| faenil | I've seen the code with pincharea and flickable has been commented here | 21:16 |
| faenil | https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/games/gluon/repository/revisions/051d7291885e963f96e02a8687a20aacb4457980/entry/player/touch/main.qml | 21:16 |
| djszapi | yes, that is my code xD | 21:16 |
| faenil | so you know how to make that shit work? XD | 21:16 |
| djszapi | not for your case, sorry. | 21:17 |
| faenil | a simple image viewer...there's nothing like that made in qml it seems... | 21:17 |
| djszapi | there is. | 21:17 |
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| faenil | don't tell me flickr demo :D | 21:18 |
| faenil | I have found no qml apps using "decent" pinchtozoom | 21:18 |
| djszapi | ZogG_laptop did some thingie. | 21:18 |
| djszapi | not sure he used that | 21:18 |
| djszapi | I realized it is not worth writing a qml app because you then either need to fix kde bugs, or qt-components, or even qt bugs. :D | 21:19 |
| faenil | :) | 21:20 |
| faenil | I'm heading to that road too... :( | 21:20 |
| djszapi | is there an example somewhere how to define an own enumeration in qml and then use it ? | 21:21 |
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| * djszapi will prolly look into the qt-components code | 21:22 | |
| djszapi | mmmh, there is none in qt-components, interesting. | 21:23 |
| djszapi | Javascript is weakly typed... I am apparently not the first one interested in this: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.qt.qml/776 | 21:25 |
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| damaltor | hey guys, is there a realistic way to run java apps (jad/jar) on the n9? i guess we cannot just apt-get install some java runtime... | 21:29 |
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| admiral0 | oh | 21:29 |
| admiral0 | nice | 21:29 |
| admiral0 | seems that the n9 is ignoring arp requests in wep mode | 21:30 |
| admiral0 | who is the genius who did that? | 21:30 |
| damaltor | hahaa :D | 21:30 |
| admiral0 | result: n9 is listening, but doesn't answer to arp requests like "who the fuck is the gateway?" | 21:31 |
| nix-cyrus | btw guys.. if someone still didn't vote.. http://www.change.org/petitions/whatsapp-inc-develop-a-nokia-n9-meego-harmattan-version-of-whatsapp-messenger | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | admiral0: yoghurt sport? | 21:33 |
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| admiral0 | DocScrutinizer: ?1 | 21:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | why would N9 have to answer "who's the gateway?" ARP requests, unless you run jokuspot? | 21:34 |
| admiral0 | i do run joikuspot | 21:34 |
| admiral0 | it happens when i'm in joikuspot with wep crypto | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | so what's unclear about my prev question then? ;-D | 21:35 |
| admiral0 | it did run time ago | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | just wanted to make sure about you running it | 21:35 |
| djszapi | Can I make a property const in qml ? | 21:35 |
| admiral0 | well | 21:35 |
| admiral0 | the same config did work a week ago | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 21:36 |
| admiral0 | what happened | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | idunno | 21:36 |
| admiral0 | all seems ok on nokia side | 21:36 |
| admiral0 | wifi up | 21:36 |
| admiral0 | ip is set | 21:36 |
| djszapi | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-15257 | 21:36 |
| admiral0 | i do get response in DHCP | 21:36 |
| admiral0 | but i can't ping gateway | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | mhm | 21:37 |
| admiral0 | and my machine doesn't know where is the gateway | 21:37 |
| admiral0 | want to take a look to wireshark dump? | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | now that's odd as it should know from DHCP lease | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | nah, no time to study your wireshark dump, sorry | 21:38 |
| admiral0 | yea, but ignoring arp who-has gateway_ip is also odd | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | otoh I'm not sure yoghurt sport implements a proper AP aka managed mode | 21:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | iirc it exploits ad-hoc | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | and ad-hoc I dunno if ARP makes any sense at all | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | afk | 21:40 |
| admiral0 | yep | 21:41 |
| admiral0 | it is ad-hoc | 21:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: what image viewer you wanted? | 21:45 |
| faenil | I'm just trying to make an imageviewer with a nice pinchtozoom | 21:45 |
| faenil | but pincharea+flickable are making my life impossibile | 21:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | or, didn't use it, just fixed to screen that's it | 21:46 |
| faenil | what do you mean? | 21:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | you want zoom with multitouch? | 21:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | first of all venemo's game i think use something simuliar | 21:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | sime has no zoom in or out | 21:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | just fix the fipucte to width | 21:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's it | 21:47 |
| faenil | ok then no problem, I'll keep crashing my head against the wall | 21:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | what do you want to do? | 21:48 |
| faenil | just a pinchtozoom as the ones you see on recent phones | 21:48 |
| faenil | not a dumb one | 21:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | and what app are ou doing? | 21:48 |
| faenil | an imageviewer | 21:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | files or from gallery? | 21:49 |
| faenil | pictures | 21:49 |
| faenil | both | 21:49 |
| faenil | that doesn't matter | 21:49 |
| nix-cyrus | feh?) | 21:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | lol | 21:49 |
| faenil | ? | 21:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | nix-cyrus: on n9 with pintch to zoom | 21:50 |
| nix-cyrus | ZogG_laptop: and what is wrong with default galery? | 21:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | pinch* | 21:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | nix-cyrus: nothing for me | 21:50 |
| faenil | the fact that I want to make my own one | 21:50 |
| faenil | is the code for the default gallery open? | 21:51 |
| djszapi | Can one describe me the difference between "==" and "===" in qml ? Same question for "!=" and "!==". | 21:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: maybe you should turn of flickable are on multi input? | 21:51 |
| faenil | == uses type cohercion, === doesn't | 21:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | and than it would be working as zoom only? | 21:51 |
| faenil | of course, that's not the problem :) | 21:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | and what is the problem? | 21:52 |
| faenil | the problem is zooming where the user pinches and then still be able to let him scroll the whole image | 21:52 |
| faenil | by adjusting contentX and Y | 21:52 |
| faenil | nix-cyrus: is the code of the default gallery open? | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | admiral0: did you any kernel update lately? | 21:53 |
| admiral0 | DocScrutinizer: nope | 21:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 21:53 |
| admiral0 | DocScrutinizer: i'm in closed mode | 21:53 |
| nix-cyrus | faenil: idk.. I think it's not | 21:53 |
| faenil | nix-cyrus: then you have the problem :) | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | aiui yoghurt needs a kernel module to make things work | 21:54 |
| nix-cyrus | :) yeah) | 21:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i only think of what i said before, to act different if it's 1 or more input | 21:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | inputs* | 21:54 |
| admiral0 | DocScrutinizer: i think i'm gonna backup, then flash, then flash open mode | 21:54 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop: you're not getting me :) that already works | 21:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | admiral0: what purpose? | 21:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: so what doesn't? | 21:55 |
| admiral0 | i hate aegis | 21:55 |
| admiral0 | :) | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | OK | 21:55 |
| faenil | you pinchtozoom, the image gets scaled | 21:55 |
| faenil | the scale transformation has to use the pinch.center as origin! | 21:55 |
| DocScrutinizer | anyway in openmode you should be able to run proper FOSS alternative to joiku | 21:56 |
| admiral0 | yes | 21:56 |
| faenil | and when you you finish scaling, you have to be able to scroll through the whole image (to do this, you need to change contentHeight/width, and ContentX/Y) | 21:56 |
| faenil | and when you have the scaled image and want to zoom out | 21:56 |
| admiral0 | and i would be able to tinker myself with nat | 21:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 21:56 |
| faenil | the reversed scaling trasnformation has to use that NEW pinch.center point as the origin | 21:56 |
| faenil | and go back smoothly by keeping that point as center | 21:57 |
| faenil | and then center the image to the screen at the same time | 21:57 |
| faenil | if you manage to do all those things with pincharea + flickable, you're my hero ;) | 21:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: are you doing opensource? | 21:59 |
| faenil | ZogG_laptop: why? | 22:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | just wonder to check the code after | 22:00 |
| faenil | nah the code is full of comments and shit ;) not worth checking | 22:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: i think there is somewhere flow gallery or something i dunno if it opensource though | 22:01 |
| faenil | and it's just 20-30 lines for that | 22:01 |
| faenil | all the examples I have found use stupid pinchtozoom.. | 22:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | faenil: that's why my app is not published yes | 22:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | only debs for now | 22:02 |
| djszapi | faenil: thanks for the hint. | 22:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | though second project we started as opensource with nix-cyrus | 22:02 |
| faenil | djszapi: np ;) | 22:02 |
| nix-cyrus | ahaha - I'm just looking for bugs :P | 22:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | nix-cyrus: stop winning and install sdk properly already | 22:05 |
| djszapi | any ideas how to get mp4 files played in the builtin video player ? | 22:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: use opne video player =P | 22:05 |
| Saviq | hey, I'm trying to "migrate" my pictures from another phone to the N9, any ideas? I tried putting them into DCIM and Pictures folders, but they seem to be handled by some DB that isn't updated :/ | 22:05 |
| djszapi | I really wonder why mp4 is not okay, if the platform supports it after all. Mostly since it is just a container type. | 22:06 |
| itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: were you ever able to determine what was inside the mp4 file | 22:09 |
| itsnotabigtruck | a lot of embedded video accelerators/dsp programs/etc. are very picky about the codecs and codec options in use | 22:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it's entirely possible it only supports a certain range of resolutions, frame rates, etc. | 22:10 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and as was pointed out earlier, it might not actually be an h.264 video inside | 22:10 |
| djszapi | I do not personally care | 22:11 |
| djszapi | it should play it. | 22:11 |
| djszapi | if not, it is a bug imho. | 22:11 |
| djszapi | and I pointed out earlier, windows solution does not work on Linux (no, I do not wanna mess up with/virtualstuff/windowsexe). | 22:13 |
| djszapi | wine/virtualstuff/windowsexe* | 22:13 |
| djszapi | but I better just well convert it to flac, or some compatible format. | 22:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | flac is audio | 22:14 |
| ZogG_laptop | mp4 is video | 22:14 |
| djszapi | flv* | 22:15 |
| djszapi | since that is the cleanest way anyway | 22:16 |
| admiral0 | djszapi: https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=760 | 22:16 |
| admiral0 | :O | 22:16 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug 760 nor, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, NEW, Joikuspot fails with WEP encryption set | 22:16 |
| djszapi | admiral0: wanna me to put a wfm comment or what ? :) | 22:16 |
| admiral0 | why not :P | 22:17 |
| djszapi | right, doing ... | 22:17 |
| damaltor | djszapi: the n9's version of mp4 handling seems quite nonstandard anyway. i put the mp4 files which were preloaded on the n9 (i had the trailer of MIB3 and some dolby video of a black chick making noises) onto my computer and on a galaxy s2, both of which could play the video only without sound. on my pc i finally found a way, but the galaxy s2 had no chance of really playing the video in the end | 22:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | btw any idea why joikuspot says 'not allowed' when launching it | 22:18 |
| djszapi | damaltor: works for me in youtube | 22:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | is there some carrier blacklist that it doesn't let you use joikuspot with, or is this just a misconfiguration | 22:18 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: carrier? | 22:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: as in phone carrier | 22:19 |
| admiral0 | no | 22:19 |
| admiral0 | i meant: your carrier? | 22:19 |
| damaltor | djszapi: youtube? what youtube? :D i meant the preinstalled videos in ~/MyDocs | 22:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: oh, at&t (us) | 22:19 |
| admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: can be | 22:20 |
| djszapi | damaltor: mp4 on youtube works oob | 22:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it already blacklists using credit card payment on ovi for at&t customers | 22:20 |
| itsnotabigtruck | in an attempt to force people to use operator billing (where at&t gets a cut of hte action) | 22:20 |
| * admiral0 is getting angry | 22:21 | |
| damaltor | yes, youtube is no problem i guess.. but i ahd somemp4 vids too which wouldnt play on the n9. either way the videos on the n9 wouldnt play elsewhere. i guess there are some weird, but free, codecs installed while nonfree, but often used codecs are missing | 22:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: if you're on windows you could tether with nokia suite instead | 22:22 |
| admiral0 | windows? | 22:22 |
| admiral0 | what's that ;)? | 22:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh wait | 22:22 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hold on | 22:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | hook your phone up with usb | 22:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | put it in sync and connect mode | 22:23 |
| admiral0 | yeah yeah i know | 22:23 |
| admiral0 | ppp0 and i'm there | 22:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | then go into network manager and add a mobile broadband connection | 22:23 |
| djszapi | damaltor: I personally propose the conversion. | 22:23 |
| admiral0 | my laptop can'thandle power drain for the n9 | 22:23 |
| itsnotabigtruck | right | 22:23 |
| admiral0 | i have an almost dead battery on the laptop | 22:24 |
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| damaltor | djszapi: lokks like converting the videos beforehand is better anyway, as the display doesnt need any hd movies. the tv-out is crap also, so there is no reason not to make the videos fit the screen size (and while one is doing that, one can easily find a suitable codec too) | 22:28 |
| djszapi | damaltor: screen size is not really a problem to me. | 22:30 |
| djszapi | but this made the trick yes: ffmpeg -i Mridanga\ Lessons\ Pt.\ 10.mp4 -f flv -s 640x480 -r 10 -b:2000kbps -g 100 -acodec libmp3lame -ar 22050 -ab 48000 -ac 1 -y Mridanga\ Lessons\ Pt.\ 10.flv | 22:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | damaltor: dlna? | 22:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | or is it caleld dnla... | 22:30 |
| Saviq | ZogG_laptop, "Digital Living..." IIRC | 22:31 |
| damaltor | wait, you convert videos INTO flv format? | 22:31 |
| djszapi | of course. | 22:31 |
| damaltor | nobody likes flv... i usually try to get away from flv asap | 22:31 |
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| djszapi | well, the story is simple: mp4 does not work, flv does work. | 22:31 |
| blueslee | any chances to revert the latest apt command? | 22:32 |
| damaltor | i usually make avi files with divx and liblame mp3. | 22:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | mkv ftw | 22:32 |
| djszapi | blueslee: what would you like to revert ? | 22:32 |
| djszapi | damaltor: honestly, I do not care, just let it work ... | 22:33 |
| damaltor | true | 22:33 |
| djszapi | and since my other mridanga lessons are in flv, and they work, I tried to remain consistent. | 22:33 |
| blueslee | djszapi: please dont ask me:-) i did something i should not, i did an "apt-get install tar" and apt asked if it should remove some packages ... i come back to my desktop and had a look at my n9 and it removed more or less all packages | 22:35 |
| blueslee | dont hurt me ... | 22:35 |
| djszapi | apt-get -f install | 22:35 |
| djszapi | unsure it helps, but hey: it is not a toy to remove the system for fun ;-) | 22:36 |
| djszapi | damaltor: the teacher's head is quite ugly in the converted video though :D | 22:37 |
| blueslee | i dont know how that happened, tar was installed, i need a newer version, so ... it took the one from harmattan-dev | 22:37 |
| djszapi | poor blueslee :D | 22:37 |
| damaltor | harmattan-dev can be an asshole.. :/ | 22:37 |
| djszapi | interestingly enough, the flv is not the double the size as they write, but actually half.. | 22:38 |
| blueslee | dpkg says "sh ..." not found | 22:38 |
| blueslee | i will reflash in the end | 22:39 |
| djszapi | damaltor: heh, that resolution is still not okay for Harmattan :/ | 22:39 |
| djszapi | I wonder what resolution would be fine for it. | 22:40 |
| damaltor | djszapi: what if you put the 854x480 or whatever the display has? | 22:40 |
| blueslee | is there something that i can use for ls | 22:41 |
| djszapi | I began with that ... | 22:41 |
| djszapi | then 640x480 | 22:41 |
| blueslee | which packages contains ls?:-) | 22:41 |
| djszapi | I bet it asks for smaller. | 22:41 |
| djszapi | blueslee: you even deleted the busybox ? :D | 22:41 |
| djszapi | damaltor: I wish I could check out the resolution of the working flvs. | 22:42 |
| blueslee | is there a metapackage which reinstalls everything? | 22:43 |
| damaltor | shouldnt _any_ resolution be possible to convert to? | 22:43 |
| djszapi | damaltor: tell it to the Harmattan player. | 22:44 |
| djszapi | ofc ffmpeg can do anything. | 22:44 |
| djszapi | blueslee: yes, it is cold flasher. | 22:44 |
| djszapi | called* | 22:44 |
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| djszapi | we might need a converter app for Harmattan, if this is the case. | 22:48 |
| djszapi | someone pushing like that into OVI soon'ish ? ;) | 22:48 |
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| blueslee | what a day | 22:53 |
| djszapi | heh, I converted to another resolution, and I am now getting the error message, the file type is not okay. The video player is my antagonist =) | 22:53 |
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| petteri | any easy way execute program from qml code. Something like system(). I would like to have an app that is big button which executes rsync | 22:59 |
| djszapi | petteri: Q_INVOKABLE wrapper in C++. | 23:00 |
| djszapi | secondly, you might wanna use QProcess instead of system. | 23:00 |
| petteri | djszapi: ok, thanks I'll google with those | 23:01 |
| djszapi | you can use a simple slot, too instead of invokable. | 23:01 |
| * djszapi dislikes the fact every separate merge request requires a separate branch or reverting for gitorious... | 23:10 | |
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| blueslee | we need something like backup-menu for th en9 | 23:14 |
| djszapi | you could still backup your data. | 23:16 |
| djszapi | you just need to mount your N9 partition, and then copy/paste. | 23:16 |
| blueslee | hehe, i was not able to do anything, there was no cp, ls, no mount ... hehe | 23:17 |
| blueslee | i flashed only rootfs to backup my backup from MyDocs/.backups and other data there | 23:18 |
| djszapi | that is why I said mount | 23:18 |
| djszapi | if you mount your stuff, you can use your host's commands. | 23:19 |
| blueslee | now i have to do flash also mmc as the n9 asks for acoount pwds after reboots | 23:19 |
| blueslee | djszapi: multiboot is available for the n9, th enext step would be a rescue linux / backup-menu | 23:20 |
| djszapi | not sure what you mean | 23:21 |
| blueslee | djszapi: on the n900 i used backup menu to restore everything and it works perfectly | 23:22 |
| blueslee | the defaul backup/restore is not enough | 23:22 |
| blueslee | at least for me | 23:22 |
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| blueslee | i guess, i will avoid devel repos for some months:-) | 23:24 |
| djszapi | ~wazd | 23:26 |
| infobot | somebody said wazd was The Greatest Prince of the Universe | 23:26 |
| djszapi | Venemo: o/ | 23:26 |
| djszapi | ~seen wazd | 23:26 |
| infobot | wazd <~wazd@broadband-95-84-185-178.nationalcablenetworks.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 64d 7h 14m 2s ago, saying: 'Venemo: wazzup? :)'. | 23:26 |
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| djszapi | so what do you guys use for settinga value ? I would like to set the value of a timer including "no time limit", but I do not just find the proper ui design for it. Sliders (like the brightness in the general settings) is not okay for this in my opinion because the game players should see the precise value directly. | 23:28 |
| djszapi | selectiondialog is too static as well, so something like the spinbox on desktop would be cool, if there is some alternative ui concept on mobile. | 23:29 |
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| djszapi | I will use a slider + label for now. | 23:35 |
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