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| artemma | Ever created a contact with 2 numbers in #N9 & lost one on the next sync to Google contacts or MfE? Vote at http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391 (you'll need an account, but it's fast and free) | 00:34 |
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| nwoki | hi guys, my application (when running on device) hangs with the following text: "Found v1.4 driver, enabling brokenTexSubImage" | 01:38 |
| nwoki | what's wrong? | 01:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | nwoki: just fyi this channel has a lot of europeans who are probably sleeping now or will be soon | 01:43 |
| itsnotabigtruck | though it's been unusually empty the last few hours... | 01:43 |
| nwoki | :( | 01:44 |
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| nwoki | well, i hope there's a european that doesn't sleep much like me :P | 01:44 |
| * mgedmin waves | 01:47 | |
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| mgedmin | but I don't know what's wrong either | 01:47 |
| mgedmin | the "Found v1.4 driver" is normal/expected | 01:47 |
| mgedmin | every app prints that | 01:47 |
| nwoki | yeah, but after that there's nothing else | 01:48 |
| nwoki | omg | 01:48 |
| nwoki | i found it | 01:48 |
| nwoki | here is what the problem was: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8831126/qt-application-does-not-draw-any-user-interface-on-nokia-n9-with-meego | 01:48 |
| nwoki | answer 1 is correct | 01:49 |
| nwoki | using "anchors.fill" on root item made everything explode | 01:49 |
| mgedmin | weird | 01:50 |
| nwoki | ery | 01:51 |
| nwoki | *very | 01:51 |
| nwoki | that's why i couldn't find it | 01:51 |
| mgedmin | what's your top element? | 01:52 |
| mgedmin | I've a PageStackWindow that doesn't specify size nor anchors, and it shows up all right | 01:53 |
| nwoki | i don't use that because when testing on the simulator, I can't get my app to stick to landscape mode | 01:53 |
| nwoki | so i use directly and "Item" | 01:54 |
| mgedmin | oh, did the simulator *finally* get support for landscape mode? | 01:54 |
| nwoki | no | 01:54 |
| nwoki | that's why i used Item | 01:54 |
| mgedmin | heh | 01:54 |
| ieatlint | yes, the simulator has landscape mode | 01:54 |
| nwoki | ieatlint: not for the n9 | 01:55 |
| ieatlint | you sure about that? | 01:55 |
| * ieatlint goes and doubles checks | 01:55 | |
| mgedmin | you can rotate the simulated screen 90 degrees, but the app inside doesn't get orientation events etc. | 01:55 |
| nwoki | mgedmin: exactly | 01:55 |
| nwoki | ieatlint: ^^ | 01:55 |
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| ieatlint | oooh, yeah, the app i was testing that did that didn't react to orientation events | 01:56 |
| ieatlint | it just redrew | 01:56 |
| ieatlint | and i can't otherwise verify, forgot i have qt/qtcreator installed at work and not the qtsdk | 01:56 |
| nwoki | bummer :S | 01:57 |
| nwoki | anyway, finally solved my problem | 01:57 |
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| nwoki | it took away more than an hour of my time :S | 01:57 |
| ieatlint | yeah, that's a common theme of app dev :P | 01:57 |
| ieatlint | what's the old addage? 30% of your time to do 70% of the app, and 70% of your time to do the remaining 30%? | 01:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | 70% of the time to do 70% of the app, and another 70% for the other 70% :p | 02:01 |
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| djszapi | Hi! Has anybody used owncloud with a Harmattan application ? | 11:22 |
| rZr | hi djszapi u pinged me ? | 11:23 |
| rZr | djszapi: I plan to setup owncloud on my freedom box | 11:24 |
| djszapi | rZr: yes, on gtalk, right ? | 11:24 |
| rZr | xmpp yes :) | 11:24 |
| djszapi | well, my question was packaging related, but I am satisfied with my own decision for now :) I will fix the install path inside the install file, and not the rules, if I pass an install prefix, like /opt/myproject to cmake. | 11:24 |
| rZr | ok then it's fine , using /opt is ok the debian way else use /usr/local/opt | 11:25 |
| djszapi | you must use opt for OVI :/ | 11:26 |
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| jonni | have been testing whore800 for a day, and Im switching back to N9 now :) | 12:11 |
| jonni | guess I give it to my wife or some relative or somehing. | 12:13 |
| djszapi | not even to an antagonist ? ;) | 12:15 |
| dm8tbr | jonni: I've been told by ms-live, fakebook and twatter addicts, that only if you use all that it lives up to full potential. | 12:15 |
| dm8tbr | jonni: that said, mine collects dust most of the time too | 12:15 |
| dm8tbr | my N9 and N950 see lots of use though :) | 12:15 |
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| jonni | heh, tried to add my gmail account and the gmail wizard failed with wrong passwd even when I entered right one. so I gave up | 12:16 |
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| X-Fade | ZogG_lap1op: you pinged yesterday? ;) | 12:26 |
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| npm | ooh ooh http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Essential_concepts_for_Harmattan_developers_Data_storage_List_of_path_name_exceptions.html suggests i can intall my own gstreamer plugins and distribute as app?? | 15:43 |
| npm | GStreamer plugins /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/lib<PN>.so | 15:43 |
| * npm has a cunning plan :-) | 15:44 | |
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| qronic | @N9Developer: Harmattan 1.2 beta now available as OCF for Nokia N950: http://t.co/qWj8xAjG #nokia #n9 | 16:08 |
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| tomma | anyone installed 1.2 already? | 16:23 |
| faenil | was about to ask the same question | 16:24 |
| faenil | I have last uni exam tomorrow, so not going to flash it today | 16:24 |
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| artemma | what would be the proper way for having two versions of a project differing on small details (one #define and an app name probably)? | 16:32 |
| artemma | I tried using SUBDIRS and create a second .pro file that reuses everything from the real project, but.. Qt Creator project allows for one package definition per complex project :/ | 16:33 |
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| artemma | and btw if I use two projects (pro and normal one) in one package aegis somehow rejects the installation anyway | 16:34 |
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| khertan | Hello! | 16:36 |
| khertan | oups... no ota :( | 16:36 |
| khertan | does someone have test new firmware ? backup working this time ? | 16:37 |
| khertan | ... dead here too ... | 16:39 |
| khertan | :) | 16:39 |
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| alterego | What do you mean by new firmware? :) | 16:51 |
| faenil | 1.2 | 16:51 |
| faenil | it's out for n950 | 16:51 |
| alterego | Oh cool | 16:51 |
| alterego | Didn't realize | 16:51 |
| alterego | Though my N950 is being used for Mer so I'm not too bothered ;) | 16:52 |
| khertan | hihi | 16:52 |
| khertan | does it s works well ? | 16:52 |
| khertan | alterego: i mean mer ? | 16:52 |
| alterego | Yes, for what I'm using it for, I don't use it for Nemo at the moment. | 16:52 |
| alterego | I'm working on something else. | 16:53 |
| khertan | hum ...so core only :) | 16:53 |
| alterego | Indeed | 16:53 |
| khertan | useless for using it as a phone | 16:53 |
| khertan | :) | 16:53 |
| alterego | Yes :) | 16:53 |
| alterego | Well, for the time being ;) | 16:53 |
| khertan | yeh for the moment | 16:53 |
| khertan | if only i could flash also the lumia 800 for an other os | 16:54 |
| alterego | Heh, yeah, that would be cool | 16:54 |
| alterego | I've loaned my Lumia(s) out to friend/brother. | 16:54 |
| alterego | Got no real use for them except getting ideas. | 16:55 |
| alterego | And I have a personal N9 for day-to-day and a development one. | 16:55 |
| alterego | It's sad my N900s have been sitting in a drawer for a few months now :/ | 16:56 |
| * alterego wonders how much of an improvement he'll get by upgrading his i3 laptop to an i7 | 16:57 | |
| alterego | Need to do a compilation benchmark on this i3 and see how it compares with my other laptops' C2D | 16:59 |
| jreznik_ | pr 1.2 is nice, I should find n950 to check the latest version (n9 is my daily phone) | 17:01 |
| jreznik_ | alterego: I've ordered i7 machine @ rh with ssd, t520, so I wonder how it will work | 17:02 |
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| piggz | anyone experienced using a qml listview + c++ model? .... i should be able to get it to work....my rowCount() function is being called, but the data() function isnt! :/ | 17:03 |
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| alterego | jreznik_: yeah, I've ordered a 4G DDR3 upgrade to bring it to 6G want to use it for serious vms and development work | 17:03 |
| alterego | piggz: can you pastie.org your c++ model code :) | 17:03 |
| piggz | alterego: k.....btw, i just got a 6gb amd fusion :) | 17:04 |
| alterego | Nice :) | 17:04 |
| piggz | alterego: http://pastie.org/3250228 | 17:05 |
| * alterego also wonders how eSATA compares to USB3 | 17:06 | |
| jreznik_ | alterego: there were two options - another was 8x core xeon, but it was workstation and it's quite noisy and sometimes it makes sense to carry laptop to meetings :) | 17:06 |
| alterego | jreznik_: laptop is essential for me, I need to be able to take my workspace with me and not have to worry about network connectivity. | 17:06 |
| alterego | (I toyed with the idea of just having a build server) | 17:06 |
| faenil | can you read me guys? | 17:08 |
| alterego | faenil: yes :P | 17:08 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i'm so jealous of you guys that got an L800 for nada | 17:08 |
| faenil | k thx | 17:08 |
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| alterego | itsnotabigtruck: don't be :P | 17:09 |
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| piggz | alterego: and this is where it is used http://pastie.org/3250256 | 17:09 |
| alterego | Obvious question, you say rowCount is getting called, is it greater than 0? ;) | 17:10 |
| jreznik_ | itsnotabigtruck: want one? it's useless for me - I don't have Windows -> no Zune, it can't connect to WPA2-Enterprise... contact syns between N9->L800 does not work (it fails) :) | 17:11 |
| alterego | Ah, I know what the problem is | 17:11 |
| piggz | go on.. | 17:11 |
| piggz | (yes, rowcount is 40) | 17:11 |
| alterego | I think I know what the problem is, there's a but in SelectionDialog at the moment that I believe stops it from working with QAbstractListModel and QStringList models | 17:12 |
| alterego | msg djszapi | 17:12 |
| piggz | ah.. | 17:12 |
| alterego | He reported the bug and we came up with a fix for QStringList the patch wont be in until 1.3, so you probably need to copy&paste SelectionDialog from gitorious and package it in your app :( | 17:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | jreznik_: heh. well if you're serious i wouldn't turn it down, but it is /your/ phone :) | 17:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | it is a shame that WP7 + linux support isn't so hot | 17:14 |
| piggz | alterego: http://meegoharmattandev.blogspot.com/2011/07/populating-selectiondialog-from-c.html | 17:14 |
| piggz | seems related | 17:14 |
| alterego | piggz: also for sanity sake test it with a plain ListView test case maybe? | 17:15 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | also ooo, looks like it's time to dump the 1.2 rootfs | 17:15 |
| faenil | xD | 17:15 |
| piggz | alterego: yes, it works as a listview :/ | 17:22 |
| piggz | n950 just booted with new fw :) | 17:23 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | looking at the release notes this update is fairly substantial | 17:25 |
| alterego | piggz: well, it's not /your/ code then! :D | 17:26 |
| alterego | itsnotabigtruck: it is 1.2 brings a /lot/ of cool stuff and improvements :) | 17:26 |
| alterego | Check out the facial recognition stuff, the camera UI has also been modified. | 17:26 |
| khertan | whoah one hour later ... n950 still creating the backup | 17:27 |
| alterego | Heh, have you been downloading a lot of porn khertan :P | 17:28 |
| khertan | two videos only on the n950 and it s video of my child | 17:28 |
| khertan | does the backup try to backup music and videos ? | 17:29 |
| X-Fade | no | 17:29 |
| X-Fade | But your mail might be huge. | 17:29 |
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| piggz | meh, pr1.2 is useless...no real golf! | 17:32 |
| alterego | Heh | 17:33 |
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| khertan | X-Fade: indeed ... large email db :) | 17:34 |
| X-Fade | khertan: Happens :) | 17:35 |
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| khertan | X-Fade: 4 gmail account :) | 17:35 |
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| khertan | hope the gsm problem is now fixed | 17:38 |
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| nwoki | anyone have any info on multi-touch on the nokia n9 ? Has QML got support for it ? | 17:43 |
| nwoki | are there any hacks to get it to work=? | 17:43 |
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| X-Fade | It just works? | 17:44 |
| khertan | multi-touch ? | 17:44 |
| khertan | just works | 17:44 |
| khertan | ? | 17:44 |
| khertan | X-Fade: +1 | 17:44 |
| khertan | :) | 17:44 |
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| Milhouse | Before I install 1.2beta... can anyone confirm if Skype can be installed as per 1.1 on N950? | 17:44 |
| khertan | Milhouse: haven't been able to install it on pr1.1 | 17:45 |
| khertan | (not found it) | 17:45 |
| Milhouse | khertan: just pull down the deb from the N9/1.1 repo | 17:45 |
| Milhouse | i'm assuming the n9/1.1 deb won't work with 1.2beta this time around | 17:46 |
| Milhouse | although it might, never know | 17:46 |
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| khertan | didn't know ... and too late to try :) | 17:47 |
| khertan | flashing in progress :) | 17:47 |
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| Milhouse | meego.com couldn't handle the excitement of a firmware update? | 17:57 |
| Milhouse | seems to be down... | 17:57 |
| rantom | So is the beta 1.2 out? | 17:57 |
| Milhouse | aye | 17:58 |
| rantom | URL? | 17:58 |
| Milhouse | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 | 17:58 |
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| rantom | Odd place to put it, imo, since I looked from here: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/MeeGo/ | 17:58 |
| rantom | but thanks, Milhouse | 17:58 |
| Milhouse | np | 17:58 |
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| djszapi | meh, meego.com is really down ... wanted to put the link to the landing page. | 17:59 |
| djszapi | X-Fade: lbt ^ | 17:59 |
| X-Fade | network outage | 18:00 |
| Milhouse | any feedback on pr1.2beta yet? just about to plug in the cable... | 18:00 |
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| mja | just flashed and restored a backup | 18:00 |
| rantom | o/ folders (from changelog) | 18:00 |
| Milhouse | mja: first impressions? | 18:01 |
| mja | asking me if I want to restore applications as well :) | 18:01 |
| djszapi | Milhouse: using it for a while, not that bad | 18:01 |
| Milhouse | jolly good, thanks both | 18:01 |
| Milhouse | i shall proceed... :) | 18:01 |
| djszapi | http://pastebin.com/vj2tVLWV -> anybody an idea for this packaging issue ? | 18:02 |
| mgedmin | djszapi, weird! do you have a debian/files mentioning kanagram-harmattan.desktop/ or something? | 18:03 |
| djszapi | nop | 18:04 |
| mgedmin | why is dh_install appending that trailing slash? | 18:04 |
| * mgedmin has no idea | 18:04 | |
| djszapi | trailing what ? | 18:05 |
| mja | seems to default to dark theme | 18:05 |
| mja | NFS Shift there by default | 18:05 |
| mja | and galaxy on fire II | 18:06 |
| mgedmin | djszapi, dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/debian/kanagram/opt/kanagram/share/applications/kanagram-harmattan.desktop debian/kanagram/usr/share/applications/kanagram-harmattan.desktop/ returned exit code 1 | 18:06 |
| mgedmin | from your log | 18:06 |
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| djszapi | mgedmin: I think I fixed this. | 18:06 |
| djszapi | yep, works | 18:06 |
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| mja | like the new virtual keyboard layout | 18:09 |
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| mja | swype reminds me of wp virtual keyboard | 18:09 |
| khertan | funny as on Wp you can't swype | 18:11 |
| mja | I had previously problems downloading some apps off the store. seem to be a problem of the past | 18:11 |
| khertan | mja swipe was already available on pr1.1 | 18:11 |
| mja | khertan: I meant the new layout reminds me of the wp layout | 18:11 |
| mja | aka it's better | 18:12 |
| mja | just worded it in a silly way, apologies :) | 18:12 |
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| * Milhouse wonders if it was wise to begin flashing 1.2beta with only 26% battery (sure I had more than that before shutting down) | 18:13 | |
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| mja | won't it be getting more juice via USB? | 18:14 |
| X-Fade | Milhouse: 10% is minimum, flasher itself will monitor that. | 18:14 |
| Milhouse | not from the usb port it's connected to | 18:14 |
| Milhouse | the gui says "not enough juice" | 18:14 |
| mja | like the new font, looks good in browser | 18:14 |
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| Milhouse | x-fade: i hope the flasher gets all the critical stuff out of the way first | 18:15 |
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| Milhouse | worst case i get a stuffed up emmc rather than a brick :) | 18:15 |
| X-Fade | I've tried to flash empty battery devices and it will charge and wait until it reaches 10%. | 18:16 |
| X-Fade | Should be fine. | 18:16 |
| Milhouse | i don't suppose any would happen to have a direct link for the Skype N9/1.1 deb? save me from hacking apt to pull it down (should have saved it from last time - doh) | 18:16 |
| Milhouse | s/any/anyone/ | 18:16 |
| mja | quick q... how to get terminal back? | 18:17 |
| khertan | funny as pr1.1 didn't let me flash my device because not enough juice in battery | 18:17 |
| khertan | and it was 50% | 18:17 |
| X-Fade | mja: enable dev mode | 18:17 |
| mja | it's enabled | 18:17 |
| mja | maybe disable and then re-enable | 18:17 |
| Milhouse | enable non-store sources, enable developer mode | 18:18 |
| khertan | yep | 18:18 |
| npm | so the 1.2 update says "Skype not supported" on N950 -- why? | 18:18 |
| npm | ( http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/Nokia_N950_PR12_Release_Notes_v02-6_en.html ) | 18:18 |
| mja | got both non-store sources and developer mode enabled but I'll try disabling them | 18:18 |
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| Milhouse | npm: my guess, licences | 18:18 |
| macmaN | what what, PR1.2 is out? | 18:18 |
| khertan | macmaN: PR1.2 beta | 18:18 |
| khertan | yep | 18:18 |
| npm | piggz: so did you update your N950 to 1.2 and does it work? | 18:18 |
| macmaN | yeah of course, the beta | 18:19 |
| khertan | macmaN: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ | 18:19 |
| ArkanoiD- | NFC polling enabled in lock screen -- what? | 18:19 |
| macmaN | hmmm, yeah skype not support is a big booobooo, can the N9 1.1 package still be installed | 18:19 |
| Milhouse | macman: not sure, but will certainly give it a try | 18:20 |
| lbt | cobs is back in case you'd not noticed | 18:20 |
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| macmaN | hmm, is this 1.2 beta available for upgrade process on the phone | 18:21 |
| Milhouse | macmaN: OCF | 18:21 |
| Milhouse | so not OTA | 18:21 |
| macmaN | and that killed all stuff on the phone huh | 18:21 |
| macmaN | contacts etc | 18:22 |
| Milhouse | macmaN: Take a backup, flash, restore | 18:22 |
| piggz | npm: yes it worked | 18:22 |
| npm | piggz: cool. thanks! | 18:22 |
| Corsac | could upgraded people add comments to the bugs marked as fixed by PR1.2 in harmattan-bugs? | 18:22 |
| Corsac | that'd be very nice of them :) | 18:22 |
| piggz | Milhouse: macmaNL or, keep your contacts in google and use exchange sync | 18:23 |
| Milhouse | Corsac: I imagine the idea would be to verify them if they're indeed fixed, or reopen if not | 18:23 |
| khertan | Milhouse: if backup / restore works this time :) | 18:23 |
| Milhouse | piggz: Keep mine on Nokia contacts (though not sure for how much longer) | 18:24 |
| Corsac | Milhouse: yes, although I'm not sure they can be reopened *before* the real PR1.2 appears for N9 users | 18:24 |
| Milhouse | khertan: i hope it does! not sure if i should restore my accounts though, considering i had problems last time - suppose it's worth a shot | 18:24 |
| * ArkanoiD- wonders if contacts merge bug is fixed | 18:24 | |
| Corsac | (since ongoing fixes are still possible) | 18:24 |
| Corsac | but at least adding a comment so people are aware of the status would be nice | 18:25 |
| Milhouse | Corsac: Well if they're meant to be fixed in 1.2, and they're not fixed in 1.2beta, I would say they definitely should be reopened | 18:25 |
| Milhouse | shouldn't have been marked as fixed if they're not fixed | 18:25 |
| Iktwo | I was on 1.1 and decided to flash it again and then update to 1.2 as I had problems the first time updated to 1.2, but now I'm getting a bb5_rdc_cert_read failed CMT_RFS failed ERROR: Failed to flash images Status: 4 | 18:26 |
| Iktwo | I can boot but my sim is not recognized :S | 18:26 |
| Iktwo | does someone knows what's the problem? | 18:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | jonni: ping | 18:26 |
| ZogG_lap1op | anyone with n950 who already got pr1.2? | 18:27 |
| macmaN | downloading | 18:27 |
| Corsac | Milhouse: they might have been fixed in the repository but not yet present in the beta | 18:27 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i just wonder if they included the oauth plugin or not =\ | 18:27 |
| Milhouse | Corsac: I'd err on the side of caution and reopend | 18:27 |
| Milhouse | reopen | 18:28 |
| mja | ZogG_lap1op: yup | 18:28 |
| piggz | alterego: copying files from qt-components git to my project isnt working....what else woud work? creating a custom dialog in a sheet with a listview + delegate? | 18:30 |
| Milhouse | hmmm... bug on Settings -> Display -> Colour profile - doesn't show current value | 18:30 |
| Milhouse | lost my lock screen wallpaper too | 18:33 |
| ZogG_lap1op | mja: wait - lemme tell you where to look | 18:35 |
| Milhouse | anyone on 1.1, can they post a link to the default blue lockscreen wallpaper? please? :) | 18:37 |
| piggz | hmmm, no dlna client? only server? | 18:37 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | damn there is no locate on n9 | 18:38 |
| Milhouse | nice... first spontaenous reboot | 18:39 |
| Milhouse | although maybe that was because i just install the dev mode package and had switched focus elsewhere... | 18:39 |
| piggz | Milhouse: did you enable develper mode? | 18:39 |
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| piggz | thats why | 18:39 |
| Milhouse | piggz: yep thanks - silly me :) | 18:39 |
| ZogG_lap1op | mja: ls -l /usr/lib/signon/ | 18:41 |
| ZogG_lap1op | or anyone with pr1.2 | 18:41 |
| mja | ZogG_lap1op: there are files there | 18:42 |
| mja | lib*.so | 18:43 |
| mja | and "extensions" | 18:43 |
| mja | liboauth2plugin.so is there | 18:44 |
| alterego | piggz: I just meant copying SelectionDialog | 18:47 |
| alterego | piggz: tlk to djszapi, he knows the state of his patch | 18:47 |
| ZogG_lap1op | mja: \0/ | 18:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | thanks | 18:50 |
| mja | np | 18:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | that's what i needed | 18:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | next todo for imgrup is account integration | 18:51 |
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| Milhouse | skype from n9/1.1 repo appears to install just fine | 18:51 |
| macmaN | sweet! | 18:51 |
| piggz | alterego: i did copy it, but it needed a CommonDialog...and then CommonDialog didnt know what a Style property was | 18:52 |
| ZogG_lap1op | but we wouldn't know if the updated skype with hopefully videocalls would be there | 18:52 |
| Milhouse | macmaN: haven't created an account yet though! | 18:52 |
| ZogG_lap1op | Milhouse: for skype? you don't have from prev phone/computer or something? | 18:53 |
| mja | just made a SIP call over wifi without disabling any codecs and had no hiccups | 18:53 |
| mja | maybe it's luck or maybe they fixed something | 18:53 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | interesting how dlna would be integrated | 18:53 |
| Milhouse | ZogG_lap1op: Just finished flashing it, first thing I did was install Skype - about to restore backup. Figured if I restored backup BEFORE installing account plugin, I'd lose all my Skype contact details | 18:54 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | Milhouse: =\ | 18:55 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | MohammadAG: sup | 19:11 |
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| npm | when you create a backup before upgrading, where is the backup file stored, and does it backup all of /home/user /home/developer or do i need to make separate copies of those | 19:13 |
| tomma | MohammadAG, backup restoring worked? | 19:13 |
| tomma | sry, Milhouse | 19:13 |
| Aard | npm: it'll be in /home/user/MyDocs/.backups. it does _not_ cover media files, etc, and does _not_ cover anything from developer user | 19:15 |
| npm | Aard: cool thanks | 19:15 |
| Milhouse | npm: MyDocs/.backups | 19:15 |
| npm | how about .local/share/data/ | 19:15 |
| npm | do those get backed up, or .local/share/* | 19:15 |
| Milhouse | toma: restore kinda worked - didn't restore my twitter or nokia accounts, restored facebook/google talk/skype/sip | 19:16 |
| npm | so maybe this is a stupid question, but does ~/MyDocs/ not get deleted by an update?? | 19:16 |
| Milhouse | now trying to work out why ssh has stopped letting me authenticate with a public key (worked before restore - now wants a password grrr) | 19:16 |
| Milhouse | npm: if you OCF, yes | 19:17 |
| npm | (otherwise how could it restore ~/MyDocs/.backup | 19:17 |
| Aard | npm: yes, you need to copy all of that to your computer before upgrading | 19:17 |
| Milhouse | so you have to put your backup back on to the device using mass storage mode - and you need to create the .backups directory | 19:17 |
| npm | aha | 19:17 |
| Milhouse | it is a bit dumb, i admit | 19:17 |
| npm | thanks for clarifying... but that's why i asked... it would be kinda stupid to delete one's own backup | 19:18 |
| Aard | npm: the backups are just zip files, so you can look what's in there. just checked, .local seems not to be backed up (though there should only be recreatable data anyways). .config gets backed up | 19:18 |
| npm | so is there any reason why restoring all of ~user/ is a bad idea? | 19:18 |
| mgedmin | could be... | 19:18 |
| mgedmin | there's magical encrypted aegisfs filesystems mounted in there | 19:19 |
| npm | oh i see looking at ~/MyDocs/.backups/Backup0 | 19:19 |
| mgedmin | I'd be afraid of tampering with them -- you could lose all your messages/contacts/etc. | 19:19 |
| Aard | npm: yes, if the format of some of the sqlite storage files changed. through the backup application it's possible to account for data changes | 19:19 |
| * ArkanoiD- wonders what is the point of erasing MyDocs by OCF | 19:19 | |
| ArkanoiD- | actually you can dissect the script and disable that annoying part | 19:19 |
| Aard | ArkanoiD-: you need to update the emmc content, if you don't want to risk some applications not working properly due to old data | 19:20 |
| CissWit | i can't find sms in backup. Are they stored in some sqlite or binary file ? | 19:21 |
| Corsac | sqlite | 19:21 |
| Corsac | in the tracker database | 19:21 |
| Corsac | and the tracker backup is in the settings backup, iirrc | 19:22 |
| CissWit | ok thx, i'll have a look there | 19:22 |
| Corsac | but recovering smses from tracker database might be really painful | 19:23 |
| CissWit | why ? | 19:23 |
| Corsac | because the tracker is a mess | 19:23 |
| Corsac | you dont only have messaging there | 19:23 |
| Corsac | you have the whole tracker database | 19:23 |
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| npm | ~ $ tar cf - MyDocs | ssh npm@192.168.2.14 "cat > /usr/local/src/n950/MyDocs.tgz" | 19:30 |
| npm | usb networking ftw | 19:31 |
| ZogG_lap1op | btw do restore install all apps or app by app? | 19:31 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i remember restore after 1.1 upgrade it took me ages | 19:32 |
| mgedmin | ssh ftw | 19:33 |
| npm | now if only n950 had fuse-sshfs then usb networking and ssh would be even more winning | 19:34 |
| ArkanoiD- | oh shit, could it be that fscking cdc_phonet bricked my phone again | 19:35 |
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| petteri | anyone know if it would be possible to do webpage optimized for N9 that you could left swipe to get next page | 19:41 |
| Mece | o/ | 19:41 |
| radiofree | petteri: yes it's entirely possible | 19:42 |
| petteri | radiofree: any tips on how to get started? | 19:42 |
| radiofree | I've seen android web pages that have a swipey gallery thingy | 19:42 |
| radiofree | and these work in the n9 browser | 19:43 |
| radiofree | sorry, no idea | 19:43 |
| petteri | ok, i'll try to google some more | 19:43 |
| radiofree | http://www.photoswipe.com/ | 19:43 |
| radiofree | maybe look at how they do it? | 19:43 |
| Mece | anyone running pr1.2? | 19:43 |
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| radiofree | petteri: theres also http://www.raymondcamden.com/index.cfm/2011/3/26/Another-experiment-in-jQuery-Mobile-swipe-navigation | 19:44 |
| petteri | radiofree: thanks, the gallery works just as expected! | 19:45 |
| Milhouse | Mece: Yep | 19:46 |
| ZogG_lap1op | there is some n9 site btw with that | 19:46 |
| Milhouse | anyone with 1.2beta, is your ssh public key authentication working ok (logging in as user)? | 19:46 |
| Mece | Milhouse, have you tried enabling skype? | 19:47 |
| Milhouse | Mece: I installed the N9/1.1 account-plugin - seemed to work ok | 19:47 |
| Milhouse | bogged down with an ssh issue right now | 19:47 |
| Mece | Milhouse, ok, thanks. | 19:47 |
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| vladest | hi | 19:50 |
| vladest | Once your N950 is flashed with this release, you cannot go back to an earlier software release. Please note that Nokia Store still requires applications to work on Harmattan 1.0 and 1.1 releases, in addition to Harmattan 1.2. | 19:51 |
| vladest | niiice | 19:51 |
| ArkanoiD- | "Erasing, this may take a while" seems to be forever :-( | 19:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | up to 20 min | 19:53 |
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| djszapi | Hey guys! Do you experience this flashing issue on Linux with PR1.2 ? http://pastebin.com/UC8bp51W | 19:53 |
| vladest | how to backup/restore n950? | 19:54 |
| djszapi | vladest: I bet, the wikipage has some relevant information | 19:54 |
| vladest | Nokia Link doesnt see n950 | 19:54 |
| merlin1991 | vladest: create a backup with the setting panel thing and copy the folder to your pc | 19:56 |
| merlin1991 | it's in settings -> sync and backup | 19:56 |
| Mece | djszapi, hmm I think I had that issue last time I flashed. is the system trying to mount the device perhaps? | 19:56 |
| vladest | merlin1991: thanks | 19:56 |
| djszapi | Mece not. | 19:57 |
| piggz | djszapi: edit modprobe to blacklist cdc_phonet | 19:57 |
| RST38h | Where is PR1.2??? | 19:58 |
| djszapi | piggz: already tried. | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | RST38h: there is a pr1.2 prerelease for the n950 | 19:58 |
| RST38h | where? | 19:58 |
| djszapi | RST38h: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/release/N950/firmware/ | 19:58 |
| RST38h | ok, thanks | 19:58 |
| merlin1991 | RST38h: http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 | 19:58 |
| RST38h | yoohoo | 19:58 |
| * RST38h is off to destroy his m950 | 19:58 | |
| ZogG_lap1op | mn950? | 20:00 |
| ZogG_lap1op | new model? | 20:01 |
| RST38h | Skype not supported...hmmm | 20:01 |
| djszapi | you can grab it the old way | 20:01 |
| RST38h | But at least it can speak in Kazakh now! | 20:02 |
| RST38h | And Persian! The ayatollahs will be happy now! | 20:02 |
| RST38h | Improvements to MTF! OMG OMG OMG | 20:03 |
| CissWit | i'm still having a 404 on the 232 repositorie. Has any of you any hint on that ? | 20:04 |
| tomma | why does oneclickflasher do secure erase? | 20:04 |
| merlin1991 | "Improved browser history view" wut? | 20:05 |
| merlin1991 | where is the history view at all? | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG | 20:05 |
| merlin1991 | and "Front camera support" is rather vague | 20:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | another HARM, even more err... harmful? ;-P | 20:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | what the f is front camera support i still can't get | 20:06 |
| ZogG_lap1op | it was orking before as well just no qml item for that | 20:06 |
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| merlin1991 | "Ability to create playlists" omfg YES | 20:08 |
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| djszapi | jonni ping | 20:08 |
| merlin1991 | "Possibility to see songs that are on the current play queue" seems like it's going to get a music player after all | 20:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~update is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 | 20:09 |
| infobot | ...but update is already something else... | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~#harmattan update is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 | 20:09 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer: okay | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~update | 20:09 |
| infobot | it has been said that update is http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 | 20:09 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~+chaset #harmattan | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~+chanset #harmattan | 20:10 |
| infobot | chan: #harmattan (see _default also) | 20:10 |
| infobot | autojoin => infobot, factoidSearch => $chan #maemo _default | 20:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~_default update | 20:11 |
| infobot | dselect update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade, or you can use apt-get update instead of dselect update | 20:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | for your convenience :-D | 20:12 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o DocScrutinizer | 20:12 | |
| *** DocScrutinizer changes topic to "A place for harmattan device and development discussions | Customers help customers on #N9, hurry and you're the senior member | Please stay on topic and no NDA stuff here | Developers : http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/ | ~aegis-no-thanks | LATEST ~update" | 20:12 | |
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| merlin1991 | hm bug #88 is marked fixed, I hope that also fixes the issue of swiping away the launcher splashscreen and getting the app back as soon as loaded | 20:14 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=88 enh, Normal, ---, ext-risto.lahti, RESO FIXED, [cloned] When sharing picture in Twitter app, most recent pictures are not shown on the top of the p | 20:14 |
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| DocScrutinizer | merlin1991: ?? | 20:16 |
| merlin1991 | DocScrutinizer: if you open any application that has a splashscreen, ie fb and swipe away, the app will get fullscreen as soon as it has finsihed loading | 20:17 |
| DocScrutinizer | what else should it get? ;-D | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | err stay in the fsckd tasckswticher | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | because i swiped it away todo other stuff? | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | WONTFIX | 20:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | too complex | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | lol | 20:18 |
| merlin1991 | also hm why did I say bug 88, there was a bug that acually had something in common, but not number 88 :D | 20:19 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=88 enh, Normal, ---, ext-risto.lahti, RESO FIXED, [cloned] When sharing picture in Twitter app, most recent pictures are not shown on the top of the p | 20:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | splashscreens are evil and nasty, and requesting to have main app window behave according to what you did to splash is ... :-x never going to come true | 20:19 |
| merlin1991 | oh there is even one | 20:19 |
| merlin1991 | http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=77 | 20:20 |
| Milhouse | what have they done to swipe... have installed swipe manager, now when i swipe from the left i momentarily see the launcher view before it shows me the feed view. gah! | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | *sig* | 20:20 |
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| DocScrutinizer | +h | 20:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | bug 77 | 20:20 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=77 nor, Normal, ---, ext-risto.lahti, RESO FIXED, [cloned] Programs started with splashscreen steal focus | 20:20 |
| merlin1991 | ^^ exactly what I meant :D | 20:20 |
| merlin1991 | there are 3 independent bugreports that state the same problem :D | 20:21 |
| djszapi | right, flashing does not work here :/ | 20:22 |
| merlin1991 | btw we should fix that on maemo too :D | 20:22 |
| merlin1991 | oh yes #558 is fixed | 20:23 |
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| * merlin1991 is in love with the new update | 20:23 | |
| merlin1991 | bug #558 | 20:23 |
| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558 nor, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, RESO FIXED, Browser cannot download all MIME Types | 20:23 |
| djszapi | merlin1991: please invite me for the marriage ceremony :D | 20:24 |
| merlin1991 | I had the situation of sitting @ uni trying to dl a pdf which failed because the server gave an invalid mime type and the browser therefore rejected the whole thing | 20:24 |
| Milhouse | ooer - images are now showing up in the feed view for rss entries | 20:31 |
| Milhouse | never noticed that before | 20:31 |
| Milhouse | Qt Blogs RSS feed being one example | 20:31 |
| alterego | I like the facebook and twitter notifications. | 20:32 |
| RST38h | BTW, will 1.2 update delete my MyDocs, etc? | 20:32 |
| Milhouse | RST38h: Yep | 20:32 |
| RST38h | trouble | 20:32 |
| * npm wonders why ~/MyDocs/.feed/enclosures has 40Mb of crap in it | 20:33 | |
| RST38h | images | 20:34 |
| RST38h | from rss feeds | 20:34 |
| npm | can they be deleted? | 20:34 |
| RST38h | yes | 20:34 |
| ZogG_lap1op | why would update delete my docs? | 20:37 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and btw what notifications? does it has now system-wide notifications? | 20:38 |
| alterego | ZogG_lap1op: the lock screen shows facebook and twitter notifications | 20:38 |
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| alterego | And they appear where emails and SMS messages show up | 20:38 |
| ZogG_lap1op | cool | 20:39 |
| ZogG_lap1op | configurated | 20:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | ? | 20:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i mean i can set what i wan to get as an update and what not? | 20:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | talking about notifications | 20:40 |
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| alterego | Yeah, think it counts as that "personal notifications" stuff. | 20:43 |
| alterego | May have a separate option I forget :) | 20:43 |
| tomma | took 2mins to flash without mmc secure erase... | 20:43 |
| tomma | why they have that enabled in oneclickflasher? | 20:45 |
| ZogG_lap1op | alterego: can you check? | 20:46 |
| ZogG_lap1op | why still no screenshots =\ | 20:47 |
| alterego | Well, I don''different version | 20:47 |
| alterego | Erm, I dont have it installed, I have a different version :P | 20:47 |
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| artemma | Upgrading N950 to 1.2 beta. Hopefully my current app-in-progress still makes sense (chooser for active swype languages) | 20:50 |
| RST38h | YES, DEATH | 20:50 |
| * ArkanoiD- updated, now it runs tracker-store and smartsearch | 20:50 | |
| RST38h | Arkanoid: good/bad? | 20:51 |
| ArkanoiD- | don't know if it will ever finish an if it will work properly after that | 20:51 |
| ArkanoiD- | (an still have to re-enable lanscape mode manually) | 20:52 |
| tomma | artemma, chooser for active swype language? is it so hard to select one from list? | 20:52 |
| artemma | #bug 558 - good | 20:53 |
| artemma | bug #558 | 20:53 |
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| _MeeGoBot_ | Bug https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558 nor, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, RESO FIXED, Browser cannot download all MIME Types | 20:53 |
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| artemma | tomma: Painful to me. I use 2-3 langs | 20:53 |
| artemma | long-press + dialog or 20 keypresses to witch between too langs? - No, thanks | 20:54 |
| artemma | between *two* langs | 20:54 |
| tomma | true | 20:54 |
| mgedmin | artemma, what about swiping left/right? | 20:56 |
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| mgedmin | does that always switch between swype and the regular vkb layouts, or can you have multiple swpye languages in the loop? | 20:57 |
| ArkanoiD- | stupid thing | 20:58 |
| RST38h | can you ave multipleswype languages at all? | 20:58 |
| ArkanoiD- | it asks to "restore applications" and provides a list | 20:58 |
| RST38h | doesn't swype compile for a particular language? | 20:58 |
| ArkanoiD- | but actually it does not restore | 20:58 |
| ArkanoiD- | you cannot do anything from this list except quitting to general app manager | 20:59 |
| artemma | RST38h: on my devices swype has some 20 langs, maybe more | 20:59 |
| RST38h | hm, ok | 20:59 |
| RST38h | on Androids, there is a separate .so for each language, afaik | 21:00 |
| mgedmin | 20 languages, but Lithuanian is not one of them, for some reason | 21:00 |
| mgedmin | ;) | 21:00 |
| RST38h | just use Russian! | 21:01 |
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| ArkanoiD- | damn | 21:04 |
| ArkanoiD- | autocapitalization is still screwed | 21:04 |
| ArkanoiD- | i doubt anyone will ever fix it | 21:04 |
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| RST38h | off with it | 21:05 |
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| ArkanoiD- | RST38h, sucks really big time when you need to type in russian | 21:06 |
| RST38h | turn it off | 21:06 |
| ArkanoiD- | turn off what? | 21:07 |
| RST38h | autocapitalization | 21:07 |
| ArkanoiD- | there is no such setting | 21:07 |
| ArkanoiD- | it is there to stay forever | 21:07 |
| ArkanoiD- | (like on e7, btw) | 21:07 |
| ArkanoiD- | some idiot thinks it is soooo useful you won't ever turn it off | 21:07 |
| * RST38h remembers disabling it on both e7 and n950 | 21:07 | |
| RST38h | or do you specifically mean swype? | 21:07 |
| ArkanoiD- | nope | 21:08 |
| ArkanoiD- | how did you do it on n950? | 21:08 |
| RST38h | some option in input settings | 21:08 |
| RST38h | where the prediction is | 21:08 |
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| ArkanoiD- | only two of them | 21:09 |
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| ArkanoiD- | "Error correction" and "Insert with space key" | 21:09 |
| ArkanoiD- | both apply to on-screen keyboards only and neither matters | 21:09 |
| RST38h | ok | 21:10 |
| RST38h | mghm | 21:10 |
| ArkanoiD- | damn is there a way to really restore applications? | 21:12 |
| RST38h | Arkanoid: what is the backup dir name btw? | 21:12 |
| RST38h | .backup? | 21:12 |
| mece1 | MyDocs/.backup iirc | 21:12 |
| RST38h | aha | 21:13 |
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| mece | I'd like to backup everything in home | 21:13 |
| mece | so how do I scp everything except MyDocs? | 21:13 |
| mece | hmm rsync exclude perhaps. | 21:17 |
| RST38h | Arkanoid: Try going to Manage Applications,there may be a separate option to restore them | 21:17 |
| RST38h | Oh shit, I have not backed up the apt sources =(((( | 21:17 |
| ArkanoiD- | FOLDERS! | 21:17 |
| ArkanoiD- | wow! | 21:17 |
| RST38h | stupid, stupid me | 21:17 |
| tomma | backup should contain them | 21:18 |
| RST38h | really? well, let us see | 21:18 |
| ArkanoiD- | RST38h, nope, there is not | 21:18 |
| ArkanoiD- | and damn tracker is still doing "something", io load is close to 100% | 21:19 |
| tomma | there it is: ".backups/Backup0/applications.zip/Root/home/user/.package-manager/sources-lists/sources.list.d/" | 21:19 |
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| tomma | dont know then if it restores them... | 21:19 |
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| RST38h | mgm, looks like restore-applications thing crashes when it tries restoring | 21:24 |
| RST38h | anyone got a fix for that? | 21:24 |
| * ArkanoiD- wonders if tracker-store will ever stop running at full load | 21:27 | |
| mece | rsync -rptDuv -e ssh --exclude 'MyDocs' --progress /home/user me@mycomputer:/home/me/n950backup | 21:28 |
| mece | :) | 21:28 |
| mece | seems to be working | 21:28 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | =) | 21:30 |
| ZogG_lap1op | btw does n950 has front camera? | 21:31 |
| mece | yes | 21:31 |
| mece | it's top right instead of bottom like N9 | 21:31 |
| RST38h | cannot install developer mode gdb | 21:31 |
| RST38h | no more powertop | 21:32 |
| mece | do you have the repos? | 21:33 |
| RST38h | this is builtin stuff | 21:36 |
| RST38h | I should not need extra repos | 21:36 |
| RST38h | HP: webOS to be fully open-sourced by September, Enyo 2.0 framework available to developers today | 21:36 |
| artemma | Upgraded to 1.2. Good so far | 21:37 |
| mece | Ok, I did a backup, then backed up everything in MyDocs and then what was possible from /home/user/ | 21:37 |
| mece | is there anything else? | 21:37 |
| jreznik | RST38h: replace Enyo with QML and it could be nice open source system (especially as they use QML internally for launcher etc.) | 21:38 |
| tomma | hmm... for some reason mail for exchange doesn't sync with google.... | 21:38 |
| tomma | tries to tell my password isn't right | 21:38 |
| ZogG_lap1op | replace ovi with market+dalvik | 21:39 |
| ZogG_lap1op | =) | 21:39 |
| tomma | btw artemma, swype honors now those input language settings | 21:39 |
| tomma | so it shows for me only english and finnish | 21:39 |
| artemma | tomma: oups, too bad. Just wasted a week of hard coding then :) | 21:39 |
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| Jare | great, are they still changed from the swype language key or by swiping over the keyboard? | 21:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | lol | 21:40 |
| RST38h | Ok, anyone knows how to restore apps list? | 21:40 |
| mece | RST38h, is there such a feature? | 21:40 |
| RST38h | should be but it crashed on startup | 21:41 |
| RST38h | I have got the list from the backup though, going to do it manually | 21:41 |
| tomma | it does offer list of applications and ask which you want to restore but none of them installs... it downloads them right etc | 21:41 |
| RST38h | tomma: it crashes right at offering the list | 21:41 |
| RST38h | atleast for me | 21:41 |
| artemma | tomma, just checked myself. Indeed, swype language switching works well now. Heh, should have done app some months ago :) | 21:41 |
| tomma | for me it did give list but restoring any of them didn't work | 21:42 |
| RST38h | does ovi store work at all? | 21:42 |
| ZogG_lap1op | RST38h: updates should work with system notifications now | 21:43 |
| ZogG_lap1op | hmm | 21:44 |
| ZogG_lap1op | tomma: clicking on items do nothing? | 21:44 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i hated app by app installation after updates | 21:44 |
| RST38h | does not accept my password to devel-su, is there some default password? | 21:45 |
| mece | rootme | 21:46 |
| tomma | ZogG_lap1op, it did ask to install it but failed | 21:46 |
| mece | oh man. I wanna flash, but I'm scared I won't get stuff working as they should.. | 21:47 |
| tomma | atleast restoring backup worked better than before... | 21:49 |
| ZogG_lap1op | mece: pussy =) | 21:49 |
| ZogG_lap1op | do it | 21:49 |
| mece | I will. | 21:49 |
| ZogG_lap1op | DO IT | 21:49 |
| mece | just checking I have everything backed up | 21:49 |
| mece | lol | 21:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | rm -rf | 21:51 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and than do it | 21:51 |
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| RST38h | Anyone can tell me where MeeFolders creates files? | 21:52 |
| RST38h | mece:thankzzz | 21:52 |
| mece | RST38h, what did I do? | 21:53 |
| RST38h | mece:told me the default root password | 21:53 |
| mece | :) | 21:53 |
| mece | ah | 21:53 |
| mece | "Erasing, this may take a while" | 21:53 |
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| mece | comeoooon already! | 21:58 |
| * RST38h installs goddamn apps by hand | 21:58 | |
| mece | RST38h, bit by bit? | 21:59 |
| ZogG_lap1op | RST38h: all of them one by one? | 21:59 |
| ZogG_lap1op | command line or gui? | 21:59 |
| ZogG_lap1op | btw is it me or rss doesn't show videos? | 22:01 |
| mece | enough with the erasing already!!! | 22:01 |
| mece | grr argh! | 22:01 |
| mece | hmm this really takes time. Perhaps a quick game of sauerbraten helps. | 22:02 |
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| RST38h | mece: apt-get can install lists | 22:04 |
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| RST38h | so not that much trouble | 22:04 |
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| rzr | hi | 22:05 |
| RST38h | Need to get 98MBof archives. Yes, baby | 22:05 |
| RST38h | Reports this for each packages: Failed to fetch exec:////usr/bin/osa --get 'colourlines' Sub-process returned an error code | 22:05 |
| RST38h | Here is your problem with restoring packages from backup | 22:05 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | RST38h: where di you get list | 22:08 |
| rzr | backup is for wimp | 22:09 |
| rzr | :) | 22:10 |
| rzr | i am rsyncing btw | 22:10 |
| ZogG_lap1op | as i told "rm -rf" | 22:10 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i want the huge poster of it | 22:10 |
| rzr | { delete this; } | 22:10 |
| RST38h | Zog:applications.zip:/Root/home/user/.package-manager/installed-packages | 22:10 |
| * RST38h found a way to restore apps. It is ugly. | 22:11 | |
| mece | rebooting..... | 22:11 |
| mece | ok let's see... | 22:12 |
| mece | phone starts! that's a + | 22:13 |
| mece | then what? | 22:13 |
| RST38h | pray. | 22:13 |
| mece | :D | 22:13 |
| RST38h | they screwed apt-get again | 22:14 |
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| RST38h | will they EVER stop screwing apt-get? | 22:14 |
| mece | should I copy everything back to mydocs or just the backup folder first? | 22:14 |
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| RST38h | backup first | 22:15 |
| RST38h | actually copy everything that is not a Nokia folder | 22:16 |
| mece | hm | 22:16 |
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| mece | what makes it a nokia folder? | 22:16 |
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| RST38h | has been there before | 22:17 |
| mece | oh. | 22:17 |
| mece | hm | 22:17 |
| mece | hmm I'll just copy everything to MyDocs first.. | 22:17 |
| Jare | have you already tested gtalk video? :) | 22:18 |
| RST38h | does it work? | 22:18 |
| Jare | i've only heard a rumor that pr1.2 should support it | 22:18 |
| mece | I heard video calling. Dunno if they mean 3g video call or skype or gtalk tho. | 22:19 |
| rzr | or jingle | 22:19 |
| petteri | better work, i used the feature a lot on my N900 and miss with n9 | 22:20 |
| Jare | nokia did say 3g video call is considered "dead" and there has been talks that skype video isn't coming anytime soon | 22:21 |
| rzr | well probally useless w/ no front cam | 22:21 |
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| mece | rzr, who has no front cam? | 22:23 |
| Aard | Jare: gtalx video works quite well (at least over wifi) | 22:23 |
| Aard | in fact, it works with any xmpp account | 22:23 |
| mece | Aard, on N950? | 22:23 |
| Aard | n9 | 22:24 |
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| petteri | not currently with the default phone app | 22:25 |
| petteri | on pr1.1 | 22:25 |
| * npm crosses fingers | 22:25 | |
| Aard | petteri: no, it's 1.2 feature | 22:25 |
| npm | Erasing, this may take a while. | 22:25 |
| petteri | Aard, ok. Good to know | 22:25 |
| Jare | great | 22:25 |
| rzr | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79909 | 22:26 |
| rzr | mece: ^ | 22:26 |
| Jare | skype video would be nice too | 22:26 |
| Jare | even though I hate to use their proprietary service | 22:26 |
| rzr | well we dont need skype if we have good xmpp/jingle support | 22:26 |
| rzr | or sup | 22:26 |
| rzr | sip | 22:26 |
| Jare | the problem is that most people I know use skype and not sip or xmpp/jingle | 22:27 |
| mece | same here. | 22:27 |
| mece | gah! How slow is my usb??? | 22:27 |
| rzr | Jare: the problem is those people not harmattan :) | 22:29 |
| Jare | ha, well I have high hopes that more and more people are moving to google plus and gtalk in the future | 22:30 |
| npm | do i get extra points using meego 1.2 (netbook -- lenovo s10-3t) to update meego ? :-) | 22:31 |
| rzr | npm: what os is running on your s103t ? | 22:32 |
| rzr | i tested plasma aktive but it was disapointed | 22:33 |
| mece | ok.. restoring. | 22:33 |
| mece | rzr, i'm gonna take a wild guess at MeeGo 1.2 :D | 22:33 |
| itsnotabigtruck | does aegis signing work on the package, or the file, level | 22:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | might it be possible to reconstitute .debs from the rootfs payload in pr1.2? | 22:34 |
| rzr | or win7 ? mine was lost when installing tablet edition :_ | 22:34 |
| itsnotabigtruck | npm: hehe | 22:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also Jare: it might be possible to get people to switch if open SIP servers weren't so sparse, and SIP clients weren't uniformly terrible | 22:35 |
| itsnotabigtruck | everyone - open source, commercial vendors, etc. - has dropped the ball on voip | 22:35 |
| mece | there was a notification regarding "partial restoration" but the fcking thing rebooted before I had time to read it. | 22:36 |
| ZogG_lap1op | itsnotabigtruck: bullshit | 22:37 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | i work at support of company providing voip servers | 22:37 |
| ZogG_lap1op | going pretty well | 22:37 |
| Milhouse | i thought Peregrine were going to support Skype video calls? I tried the current version that doesn't support video calls, but didn't like it. :( | 22:37 |
| mece | "checking applications to restore" | 22:37 |
| mece | so far so good... | 22:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also jingle support in clients is non-existant | 22:38 |
| rzr | sip is decent | 22:38 |
| mece | gah now it wants me to sign in to something but I don't know what it is! | 22:38 |
| itsnotabigtruck | the devs of the most popular jabber client (pidgin) can't be arsed to build jingle support for windows | 22:38 |
| rzr | just pay them for | 22:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | google talk, by far the most widely used jingle client, speaks pre-standard google jingle | 22:39 |
| rzr | is gtalk supporting jingle ? | 22:39 |
| itsnotabigtruck | google invented jingle | 22:39 |
| rzr | i though that was only their webplugin | 22:39 |
| petteri | i think they fixed it | 22:39 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | but they lost interest in it sometime between writing the original spec, and having it become an xmpp extension standard | 22:39 |
| rzr | are you using gvoice too ? | 22:39 |
| petteri | at least i can call from jabber.ru to gmail.com | 22:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i think the best is face 2 face life chat | 22:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | in reality | 22:40 |
| djszapi | hahahaha | 22:40 |
| e0x | ZogG_lap1op: +1 | 22:40 |
| ZogG_lap1op | petteri: jabber.ru ? | 22:40 |
| mece | gaaah ffs. | 22:40 |
| * Milhouse wonders if we should be raising defects against 1.2beta (found some minor ones) | 22:40 | |
| mece | I clicked something in the restore apps thing, and now it's gone. | 22:41 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i use noicq.org | 22:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | Milhouse: probably too late but it's worth a try | 22:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | if you don't report them right this moment they likely won't ever be fixed | 22:41 |
| ZogG_lap1op | and i had unsecurecnnectionsmakemehorny.org | 22:41 |
| Milhouse | itsnotabigtruck: indeed, some are trivial, so why not. | 22:41 |
| itsnotabigtruck | lol | 22:41 |
| petteri | i think the jingly support is quite good | 22:41 |
| ZogG_lap1op | i-am-getting-horny-by-using-an-insecure-connection.headcounter.org - this one | 22:41 |
| pinheiro | Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy | 22:42 |
| djszapi | pinheiro: same here. Make sure cdc_phonet is removed | 22:42 |
| pinheiro | modprobe -r cdc_phonet | 22:42 |
| pinheiro | FATAL: Module cdc_phonet not found. | 22:42 |
| rzr | do you know some SIP <=2=> XMPP gateways | 22:42 |
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| djszapi | pinheiro: ask for a checksum from someone it worked for, on Linux, that is. | 22:44 |
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| pinheiro | na thas not the problem its the second time | 22:44 |
| pinheiro | worse part its now again unusable | 22:45 |
| djszapi | go back and hack oxygen instead :D | 22:45 |
| pinheiro | :( | 22:45 |
| pinheiro | hehehe | 22:45 |
| npm | rzr: Linux meegolem 2.6.38.2-8.16-adaptation-pinetrail #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Jun 21 01:27:31 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux | 22:46 |
| npm | http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo-Lem | 22:46 |
| rzr | have you tried to put a sim card in it ? | 22:47 |
| npm | Flashing finished at 12:40:51 | 22:47 |
| npm | in the s10-3t? or the n950? | 22:47 |
| rzr | s103t | 22:48 |
| npm | no | 22:48 |
| rzr | i got one too | 22:48 |
| npm | but my n950 is running PR 1.2 :-) | 22:48 |
| ieatlint | ooooh, 1.2b for the n950? :) | 22:48 |
| rzr | my s103t is on debian now | 22:48 |
| npm | and my lunch will burn if i continue so later.. | 22:48 |
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| rzr | later | 22:48 |
| ZogG_lap1op | s103t? | 22:49 |
| ZogG_lap1op | slot? | 22:49 |
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| ZogG_lap1op | i use gentoo and funtoo FTW | 22:51 |
| mece | RST38h, so, what was the restore method? | 22:51 |
| itsnotabigtruck | jesus...so far the n950 1.2 rootfs has decompressed to 3.2gb | 22:51 |
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| RST38h | mece:go to ovi store, go to account, install history, and CLICK AWAY | 22:52 |
| itsnotabigtruck | ok, it just failed at the end, i think something's wrong | 22:52 |
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| mece | RST38h, D: | 22:54 |
| Milhouse | just noticed pr1.2beta makes a noise when swiping down to close apps | 22:54 |
| mece | yeah. Cute. | 22:54 |
| ieatlint | heh, that sounds obnoxious | 22:55 |
| Milhouse | not very obvious unless you have Touch screen tones at level 2 or 3 | 22:55 |
| rzr | just curious once upgraded , could i boot nemo anydays ? | 22:55 |
| RST38h | no | 22:56 |
| BluesLee | mihouse: any changes within the browser? | 22:56 |
| BluesLee | milhouse: can you gather all bookmarks in one folder? | 22:58 |
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| Milhouse | BluesLee: you mean bookmark shortcuts? you now put shortcuts into folders | 23:01 |
| Milhouse | haven't done any surfing yet | 23:01 |
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| ieatlint | huh, still no skype on the n950? | 23:02 |
| ieatlint | listed even as a "known issue" in the release notes | 23:02 |
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| Milhouse | ieatlint: easy fix - same as with 1.1 | 23:03 |
| Milhouse | grab the n9 version from the n9 repo | 23:03 |
| ieatlint | yeah, just odd | 23:03 |
| ieatlint | i mean, one wouldn't think it would be a licencing issue... | 23:03 |
| itsnotabigtruck | i just realized my rootfs dump was failing because i was writing to fat32 | 23:04 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and fat32 means 4 gig limit, lame | 23:04 |
| ieatlint | also an odd note in the log "Android NDEF Push Protocol disabled" ... does the n9 with pr1.1 support the android push protocol? | 23:04 |
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| mece | I seem to be having trouble installing apps.formeego.com cluent. | 23:05 |
| mece | client | 23:05 |
| mece | getting "installation interrupted" | 23:05 |
| rzr | Erasing, this may take a while. | 23:05 |
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| BluesLee | milhouse: okay, you a right | 23:06 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | any idea what RM-716 is? | 23:14 |
| itsnotabigtruck | there's a few google hits on it and it's in the names of some of the items inside the firmware images | 23:15 |
| rzr | http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/30/rumours-nokia-n9-nokia-is-using-a-patented-new-technology-not-seen-in-any-other-device-in-the-market/ | 23:15 |
| rzr | unreleased device ? | 23:15 |
| itsnotabigtruck | w00t, extraction complete | 23:16 |
| rzr | #define PRODUCT_RM690_STR "RM-690" /**< ??? */ | 23:16 |
| mece | rzr, lol | 23:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rx-71, rm-660, rm-680, rm-690, rm-696, rm-716 are all in the filenames | 23:17 |
| rzr | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-middleware/mce/blobs/6396afa1a4250b63ac9070d3d7e4e67479a08079/mce-hal.c | 23:17 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rm-680 = n950, rm-696 = n9, rx-71 = n900, but that leaves 3 others | 23:17 |
| mece | this is ancient news tho.. ancient. | 23:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | also whoops, rx-51 = n900 | 23:18 |
| itsnotabigtruck | rx-71 = ??? | 23:19 |
| itsnotabigtruck | and yeah, very ancient, i suppose | 23:19 |
| rzr | Battery level 49 %, continuing. | 23:19 |
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| rzr | this is taking longer that i thought | 23:19 |
| Milhouse | anyone still got pr1.1? | 23:20 |
| Milhouse | can you check your Google account, if you have a schedule set what does it say under the Schedule field? | 23:20 |
| rzr | not here | 23:20 |
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| Milhouse | i've set a schedule in 1.2beta, but it still shows "Off" - think that's a bug. | 23:20 |
| rzr | Battery level 54 %, continuing. | 23:21 |
| Milhouse | for my Nokia account, it shows when the next shcedule is to take place - so inconsistent behaviour between Google and Nokia accounts | 23:21 |
| * ArkanoiD- wonders if i can re-enable google contacts sync now | 23:22 | |
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| itsnotabigtruck | hm, where's the file containing the aegis security policies located again? | 23:29 |
| itsnotabigtruck | oh, found it, it's var\lib\aegis\restok\restok.conf | 23:30 |
| RST38h | Filemanager fails to install on 1.2 | 23:32 |
| RST38h | Aegis error | 23:32 |
| itsnotabigtruck | uh oh | 23:33 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | https://gist.github.com/d7870fa343abab4b0866 here's the N950 PR1.2 aegis policy for ovi apps | 23:34 |
| RST38h | Firefox broken | 23:34 |
| mece | I'm out. tata. | 23:35 |
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| * rzr http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81879# !N950Club please report your !Harmattan !MeeGo FirmWare Version, I just upgrd #n950 thx #Nokia | 23:39 | |
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| piggz | alterego: i built my own component based on a sheet, and a listview, that takes a model as a property and works rather well :) | 23:40 |
| rzr | RST38h: do u know a decent opensource filemanager ? | 23:41 |
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| RST38h | Filebox | 23:43 |
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| RST38h | But it is already available via Ovi Store, no need to put it into your repo | 23:44 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | none of the file managers use the system font :/ | 23:46 |
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| mgedmin | I've File Manager BETA installed; it looks ok; haven't had the need to actually use it for anything yet... | 23:50 |
| ZogG_lap1op | rzr: did you boot nemo on n9 ? | 23:50 |
| rzr | no | 23:51 |
| rzr | n950 | 23:51 |
| rzr | here | 23:51 |
| rzr | now installing git and rsync :-) | 23:54 |
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| itsnotabigtruck | mgedmin: but it uses arial/helvetica/whatever it is | 23:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | not nokia pure | 23:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | which causes it to not look 'system' | 23:58 |
| mgedmin | this means I'm not as sensitive to fonts as I thought I was | 23:58 |
| itsnotabigtruck | any idea what aegis-rd-source-policy is for | 23:59 |
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