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| Venemo | hey | 00:10 |
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| Venemo | gri, ping :) | 00:10 |
| gri | do I have to reply with pong? | 00:10 |
| Venemo | usually. | 00:11 |
| Venemo | anyway, do you think there are any issues left with puzzle-master that I should fix? | 00:12 |
| gri | from what I've tried I haven't found more issues than the one you corrected | 00:15 |
| gri | a portrait menu would be cool but that's not an issue :) | 00:15 |
| gri | it sometimes puts parts together I don't even see | 00:16 |
| gri | if there's a stack of items and I don't see the fitting one and move a piece over it, they merge :) | 00:16 |
| gri | even if the fitting piece was invisible due to z-order | 00:17 |
| gri | and sometimes it does not merge even if the items are a few pixels near to each other and are already rotated | 00:20 |
| gri | some kind of "virtual desktops" would be cool to sort items :) | 00:23 |
| Venemo | well, consider the accidental merges to be a feature rather than a bug - the app can't determine whether you can see them or not | 00:24 |
| Venemo | and yeah, the method that calculates whether they can merge or not, well, it's not very much up to the task, unfortunately. | 00:24 |
| Venemo | it was written before the rotation capability and it hasn't been properly updated yet. | 00:25 |
| gri | well as I only have feature requests, I have found no bugs yet | 00:26 |
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| Venemo | hmm | 00:27 |
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| Venemo | honestly, I've also noticed that sometimes the items just don't merge until you put them VERY close to each other | 00:27 |
| gri | rotating a piece with 2 fingers sometimes leads to move the piece and one below (or near to it) in different directions | 00:28 |
| gri | especially with 5x5 | 00:28 |
| Venemo | that's because you accidentally tap on the other piece | 00:28 |
| Venemo | but well, I've just checked up on that method, and I can't seem to find anything particularly wrong with it. | 00:28 |
| Venemo | gri, you can move as many pieces at once as many touch points your touchscreen supports | 00:29 |
| Venemo | you can also move more than one of them at once | 00:29 |
| gri | I know but I can't think of two things at once | 00:30 |
| Venemo | if you want to put together two pieces, you can grab both of them and rotate them to match each other. it's very handy. | 00:31 |
| Venemo | I've just noticed that latest master segfaults on this.... pfhew. | 00:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | lol | 00:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | Venemo: hi and bye (going to sleep) | 00:32 |
| Venemo | ZogG_laptop, LOL indeed | 00:32 |
| gri | Venemo: yep, it segfaults when doing this :D | 00:33 |
| Venemo | gri, I know what's the issue and also how to fix it... | 00:37 |
| gri | I just tried it because you told me it crashes :) | 00:37 |
| Venemo | I changed deleteLater() to the delete operator in the merge code... and it seems Qt doesn't like that :P | 00:37 |
| Venemo | gri, so you voted that a QPixmap is faster to draw than a QPainterPath, right? | 00:44 |
| gri | yes but for drawing a stroke a pixmap might also be overweight :) | 00:45 |
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| Venemo | I will not bother with that yet then | 00:46 |
| gri | well I said that since I thought your code still runs slow | 00:46 |
| gri | but now it's fast so you don't have to test that | 00:47 |
| Venemo | well, it might be even faster | 00:47 |
| Venemo | but who cares? it's fast! :D | 00:47 |
| Venemo | :D | 00:47 |
| gri | that's what I wanted to say, just in other words :) | 00:48 |
| Venemo | XD | 00:49 |
| Venemo | gri, do you think I should disable swipe while playing? | 00:52 |
| Venemo | gri, it annoys the crap out of me sometimes | 00:52 |
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| gri | I managed to nearly get an item so close to the edge that I had to try 10 times to not swipe the screen but get the piece back | 00:55 |
| gri | for situations like this: yes | 00:55 |
| gri | but you could make a settings screen, users like having control :P | 00:55 |
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| Venemo | gri, I was thinking, disable swipe while the game is actually ongoing and reenable it when you get to the menu or back to the selection screen | 00:56 |
| gri | that's how other games do it | 00:57 |
| gri | I have to sleep now, good night :) | 00:57 |
| Venemo | all right, good night to you too | 00:58 |
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| l32606 | l32606 anybody know how to make n9 vibrate using dbus? | 02:59 |
| l32606 | The mce interface does not work on harmattan, but ok on my N900 | 03:02 |
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| npm | yay, my qt-based webserver i'm building in to voicetogoog now invokes gstreamer to convert audio files used for recording to htm5 audio element compatible wav format | 03:23 |
| npm | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Sample_application_for_investigating_GStreamer_pipelines was helpful | 03:25 |
| luke-jr | plz don't :P | 03:26 |
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| auenf | weird, auto avatar for a contact is 'JP' | 08:17 |
| auenf | but in messages only its 'JP', its 'Ji' incontacts | 08:18 |
| auenf | 'Ji' in web2sms also | 08:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | JLP would be more obvious to me ;-D | 08:28 |
| auenf | sms from a land line | 08:29 |
| auenf | dont think i reply with a sms | 08:29 |
| auenf | seen as it was an text to speech missed call service sms | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | err what? | 08:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | sb sent an SMS to your landline, which got translated to speech, you missed it and it got recorded and you got a SMS informing you about the missed call? | 08:33 |
| auenf | http://optus.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/34/~/missed-call-service%3A-mobile-phone | 08:33 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I don't parse >>text to speech missed call service sms<< | 08:34 |
| auenf | some one rang me, i missed it, they left a message, it was translated to text and smsed to me with the from number being the originall caller | 08:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | so it's speech to text, not text to speech | 08:34 |
| auenf | sure | 08:34 |
| auenf | i cant type properly today it seems | 08:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | siri for the poor then ;-P | 08:35 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd love to get informed about such weird service - as a caler leaving a message - so I could use my worst slang to not feed their database with private info | 08:37 |
| auenf | this person has a very strong accent | 08:38 |
| auenf | and broken english | 08:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder if such service was mayne completely illegal here in Germany | 08:38 |
| auenf | the 2nd sentence doesnt make any sense, need to work out what words are wrongly translated | 08:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/siri for the poor/commercial echelon/ | 08:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | while siri itself is the worst commercial echelon alike system I could figure. Only could get worse if they "optimize out" the record button and do a 24/7 recording from every client | 08:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | but who knows, maybe the record button already is only informative and they do this right now :-P | 08:42 |
| auenf | what % of iphone users would notice the extra data being sent :P | 08:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | recording and compressing 5 minutes chunks of audio all the time, which the siri server can fetch via a pull service... | 08:44 |
| auenf | as long as it doesnt go over their monthly allocation, most wouldnt realise? | 08:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | if it wasn't for the battery drain, nobody will notice it - almost nobody | 08:44 |
| auenf | hmm, i can install terminal without enabling developer mode? | 08:45 |
| auenf | well, irssi installed terminal | 08:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | hm, I think you can | 08:45 |
| DocScrutinizer | pull dpkg from Nokia repo, install via ... errr, browser pointing to the local .dpkg ? | 08:47 |
| auenf | or just install irssi and it installs terminal for you | 08:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | :nod: | 08:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | obviously you also can get it as a dependency | 08:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | but I guess you as well could install terminal directly the same way | 08:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | if it isn't already preinstalled on every device | 08:50 |
| jonni | yes you can make helloword.deb which has terminal and busybox-devel-su as depency, and you would get those without enabling developer mode. | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | and only the icon gets hidden when no develmode | 08:51 |
| jonni | and those icons wouldnt even be hidden | 08:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | hi jonni | 08:53 |
| jonni | morning | 08:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | and o/ :waves: bbl | 08:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | time for LTE daywork :-D | 08:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | (building the modems for your 2014 devices) | 08:55 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 08:55 |
| SpeedEvil | Beamforming yet? | 08:55 |
| SpeedEvil | HAve fun | 08:55 |
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| DocScrutinizer | sure, 4*4 MIMO on higher rates | 08:56 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 08:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder how the "phones" will do that XP | 08:57 |
| SpeedEvil | Done right it could reduce SAR | 08:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://www.lauterbach.com/frames.html?country=de?home_d.html | 09:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | errr, cat5: http://www.3gpp.org/article/lte | 09:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | but I'm not doing Network Signalling, I'm working on data protocols (like I2C, SPI, several highspeed interchip connects...) | 09:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Fun! | 09:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | rather | 09:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | cya | 09:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | have to run | 09:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Bye | 09:03 |
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| merlin1991 | ffs my n9 went dead over night | 10:14 |
| auenf | forgot to charge it? | 10:15 |
| merlin1991 | actually I did charge it | 10:15 |
| merlin1991 | it already had powered down | 10:15 |
| merlin1991 | now I can't get it on anymore | 10:15 |
| merlin1991 | pluging a charger in makes the led blink | 10:16 |
| merlin1991 | (for a while) | 10:17 |
| merlin1991 | then the led lights solid for a second or two, n9 vibrates and goes back to blinking | 10:17 |
| merlin1991 | and that happens in a circle | 10:17 |
| hiemanshu | tried flashing it? | 10:17 |
| merlin1991 | hiemanshu: I did nothing that would need a reflash to fix | 10:18 |
| merlin1991 | unless normal phone use creates the need of a reflash | 10:18 |
| hiemanshu | merlin1991: well if the phone doesn't power on, and you cant get far enough to fix it, I'd recommend a reflash | 10:19 |
| hiemanshu | merlin1991: or try booting an open kernel | 10:19 |
| jonni | if led is blinng it means that it charging, if battery is really empty, you need to leave it blinking for an hour or so before pressing the poweron | 10:19 |
| merlin1991 | jonni: I think it tries to power on by itself too early | 10:19 |
| jonni | because if you press power on too early it just fails to boot since battery will run out during the boot | 10:19 |
| merlin1991 | because it has steady light for a few secs and short vibration burst | 10:20 |
| merlin1991 | then goes back to blinking | 10:20 |
| jonni | then just leave it on charger, it should succeed eventually | 10:20 |
| hiemanshu | steady light + short vibration = power on | 10:20 |
| merlin1991 | I actually think that the battery is semi dead, the thing charges it a lil to get into act dead (while blinking) then tries to boot (steady light + vibration) and fails that due to battery | 10:20 |
| merlin1991 | but the cycle repeats within 37 seconds | 10:21 |
| jonni | and are you using charger or usb cable to charge? | 10:22 |
| merlin1991 | charger | 10:22 |
| jonni | hmm, and you havent enabled r&d mode with flasher? | 10:22 |
| merlin1991 | nope | 10:22 |
| merlin1991 | I don't think it will get out of this cycle without charging longer than a few secs | 10:23 |
| jonni | have you tried to keep the poweron button down like 15-20 seconds (untill you get the vibra boot)? | 10:23 |
| jonni | for the real powerdown mode? | 10:23 |
| merlin1991 | tried, it never came | 10:23 |
| jonni | sometimes it takes more than 30seconds | 10:24 |
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| merlin1991 | did hold it for over a minute now, nothing | 10:25 |
| merlin1991 | I was skiing yesterday, so the lower temperature might have done something to the battery? | 10:26 |
| jonni | or you could try ./flasher --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset,force-power-key | 10:26 |
| jonni | that could help | 10:26 |
| merlin1991 | hm I'm a step further now on charger I actually get a nokia logo (no flasher yet) | 10:27 |
| hiemanshu | wasn't there a charging only option? | 10:27 |
| jonni | ah, then it just low battery, should be ok if you just keep it on charger eventually. | 10:28 |
| merlin1991 | but how can it get to proper load if it tries to boot every 37 secs? | 10:28 |
| merlin1991 | an I also had it on the charger all night long | 10:28 |
| jonni | hiemanshu: there is no-charging option but that does the opposite | 10:29 |
| hiemanshu | jonni: I recall a charging option, maybe that was for maemo then | 10:29 |
| jonni | merlin1991: you should try to press poweroff during the boot, and hope that it goes to state where it doesnt not try to reboot | 10:29 |
| merlin1991 | it was on the charger that came with the n9 untill earlier, now I've connected it to the n900 charger | 10:29 |
| merlin1991 | in theory they should be the same though :D | 10:30 |
| merlin1991 | jonni: tired, but no reaction to power button while boot, still in a loop | 10:30 |
| merlin1991 | jonni: what would the flasher options do you suggested? | 10:31 |
| jonni | merlin1991: first I would try sudo ./flasher --read-device-id since that should put your device in the mode where it doesnt try to boot up | 10:32 |
| jonni | ie would stay in charging state | 10:32 |
| merlin1991 | okay | 10:32 |
| jonni | and if that doesnt help then I would use --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset,force-power-key | 10:32 |
| * merlin1991 wonders why the n9 decided todo such a silly loop | 10:32 | |
| merlin1991 | force-power-key does what? | 10:33 |
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| jonni | as with those flags device doesnt reboot if watchdog timer expires, and force-power-key gives powerkey as boot reason, so it never goes to ACT_DEAD state | 10:33 |
| merlin1991 | are the options persitant of for 1 boot? | 10:34 |
| jonni | they are persistant so if you want to remove them you do --clear-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset,force-power-key | 10:34 |
| merlin1991 | did the read device id, now just let it connected to ubs? | 10:35 |
| merlin1991 | *usb* | 10:35 |
| jonni | yep, when doing readdeveice id, just leave it there and dont disconnect (ie your charging with your linux machine) | 10:36 |
| jonni | (or windows/mac) | 10:36 |
| merlin1991 | btw what would the hw revision look like on a bought n9? | 10:36 |
| jonni | hw revision is printed on the back of the simcard holder | 10:37 |
| merlin1991 | nah I mean what would flasher report ? | 10:37 |
| merlin1991 | flasher here says 1507 | 10:37 |
| jonni | that varies but 1507 is quite common | 10:38 |
| merlin1991 | any sign if it really charges in that read device id state? | 10:38 |
| merlin1991 | or do you know it will? | 10:39 |
| jonni | if the front bottom while led is showing up it is charging | 10:39 |
| jonni | bottom left corner | 10:39 |
| merlin1991 | solid light | 10:40 |
| jonni | yep then it charging | 10:40 |
| jonni | so most likely if you leave it like that for a while, you will be ok | 10:40 |
| merlin1991 | I really would like to know why it went into that loop | 10:41 |
| jonni | usually its too empty batter & rd-mode | 10:42 |
| jonni | battery even | 10:42 |
| auenf | solid light is charged isnt it? | 10:42 |
| merlin1991 | uh oh, light is gone | 10:42 |
| merlin1991 | how could I query if r&d is enabled? | 10:42 |
| merlin1991 | ah --query-rd-mode | 10:43 |
| jonni | you can do --disable-rd-mode | 10:43 |
| jonni | oh and sometimes changing charger can help too, I've had bunch of car chargers that dont give enough power to the device etc | 10:44 |
| merlin1991 | seems like I drained the battery completely, --query-rd-mode isn't working | 10:45 |
| merlin1991 | flasher never finds the n9 | 10:45 |
| jonni | it should find if if you press the powerbutton that 30seconds | 10:46 |
| merlin1991 | silly, now it did | 10:46 |
| merlin1991 | prudction mode and r&d flags 0000 | 10:46 |
| merlin1991 | so I guess no r&d at all :D | 10:46 |
| jonni | yep looks like normal | 10:47 |
| jonni | you could try to that sudo ./flasher --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset,force-power-key -R | 10:48 |
| merlin1991 | btw now I don't get an instant response to flasher commands, device sits there with half powered solid light for some time before it responds to flasher | 10:49 |
| merlin1991 | and then the light goes to full power | 10:49 |
| jonni | thats normal, flasher commands only gets response on very initial state of the boot | 10:50 |
| merlin1991 | yeah but it sits like that for about a minute before vibration and response | 10:51 |
| jonni | thats why I usually press the powerbutton 30seconds after issuing any flasher command that I give | 10:51 |
| jonni | with that -R and force it should try to bootup in the normal mode without pressing anything. | 10:52 |
| merlin1991 | trying | 10:53 |
| merlin1991 | still waiting for the phone to react to flasher :/ (I did press powerbutton 30 secs beforehand) | 10:53 |
| jonni | trick is to keep button down untill the vibration starts and then release | 10:54 |
| merlin1991 | the device is more than dead, even holding it for a full minute issues no vibration | 10:55 |
| jonni | if you release before vibra, it does nothing | 10:55 |
| jonni | and if you keep it pressed after the vibra it will mess you up also | 10:55 |
| merlin1991 | didn't boot, gave a short ping and then went to blinking led, now dead led | 10:56 |
| jonni | ohwell if N9 charger overnight didnt help, then you could try n900 charger for few hours | 10:56 |
| jonni | sounds really wierd though, since i've never seen a device that fails to charge up after a while. | 10:57 |
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| merlin1991 | well it was in the cold for the first time yesterday | 10:59 |
| merlin1991 | maybe something in the charger chip / battery got messed up | 10:59 |
| merlin1991 | it also reported "battery almost empty" on the ski trip but went back to nah I have enough when I got home (wich is not that unlikely with a cold battery) | 11:00 |
| merlin1991 | hm connecting the charger yields no result at all | 11:00 |
| jonni | that is normal too, sometimes it takes 10+ minutes to get any results, like led starting to blink | 11:01 |
| merlin1991 | so we did just drain the battery even more trying to resurrect it? | 11:01 |
| jonni | if the led port on pc didnt give enough power then yes. But I would just leave it for N900/N9 charger for a while, and if it hasnt booted up in 24hours, then its nokia care time | 11:03 |
| jonni | led=usb | 11:03 |
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| merlin1991 | nokia care is going to be funky | 11:05 |
| merlin1991 | I got not a single paper that shows the device is mine, because I got it on a nokia event here in vienna, and all they took in return was my email | 11:06 |
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| jonni | heh, that shouldnt matter that much, device has been on the market less than an year, and for most countries there are always atleast 1 year warranty. Anyways most likely it will wake up after a while if you try different chargers. | 11:09 |
| merlin1991 | only have the n900 and the n9 one | 11:11 |
| merlin1991 | will try to keep it on n900 charger for a few hours | 11:11 |
| merlin1991 | wtf somehting new | 11:11 |
| merlin1991 | nokia logo + some scewdriver thingy below | 11:11 |
| jonni | and afaik care has fixed/replaced the other developer devices, like the free N950's on other developers. | 11:11 |
| merlin1991 | (still blinking led) | 11:12 |
| Richlv | would something like http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56148 work on n9 ? | 11:12 |
| jonni | the screwdriver comes from the rd-mode flags (and will go away when you --disable-rd-mode again) | 11:12 |
| jonni | but its a good indicator if led blinks, since then its still charging | 11:13 |
| merlin1991 | hm I did disable them | 11:14 |
| merlin1991 | weird | 11:14 |
| merlin1991 | at least it doesn't try to boot anymore | 11:15 |
| merlin1991 | hopefully it can charge enough to boot again | 11:16 |
| Venemo | hey guys :) | 11:18 |
| merlin1991 | jonni: I've had other weird issues with this n9 as well | 11:19 |
| merlin1991 | it can't load custom kernels for example | 11:19 |
| merlin1991 | flasher -l -k somekernel does nothing :D | 11:19 |
| jonni | -l -k -b you mean, since -l -k shouldn't do anyways anything? | 11:20 |
| merlin1991 | yeah sorry | 11:21 |
| merlin1991 | I always forget the boot flag | 11:21 |
| merlin1991 | but yes it didn't work iwth -l -k -b | 11:22 |
| jonni | and flasher says OK? | 11:22 |
| merlin1991 | yep falsher claims success | 11:23 |
| merlin1991 | I tried the openmode kernel, dunnno what happens if I just recompile the current kernel from sources | 11:23 |
| jonni | you tried both patched and unpatched? | 11:24 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 11:24 |
| merlin1991 | btw what nolo version should flasher report, I think it says 2.12 here | 11:24 |
| jonni | hmm, 2.1.5 shows atleast on my PR1.1 | 11:25 |
| jonni | do you have PR1.1? | 11:25 |
| merlin1991 | yes I have | 11:26 |
| jonni | sounds like your nolo would be too old one which doesnt support openmode kernel | 11:26 |
| merlin1991 | ah wait nolo is 2.1.4 | 11:26 |
| merlin1991 | sry for the confusion | 11:26 |
| merlin1991 | err 2.1.5 | 11:26 |
| merlin1991 | silly, I ran --disable-rd-flags=.. but it still left the dvice in r&d mode | 11:28 |
| jonni | just tested on my N9, if I do --read-device-id and unplug and connect to charger without pressing anything it just charges and doesnt boot. | 11:29 |
| jonni | you need to run --disable-rd-mode and not flags | 11:29 |
| merlin1991 | yeah | 11:29 |
| merlin1991 | well I'll just leave it charging for now | 11:29 |
| merlin1991 | or not since it went back to reboot try loop | 11:30 |
| jonni | yep, if led is blinking now, then it should be alright after a while | 11:30 |
| merlin1991 | tried the -i -> replug to charger now, it tries to boot again | 11:32 |
| merlin1991 | FFS | 11:32 |
| jonni | heh, general rule if charling led if blinking, dont touch the device :) | 11:34 |
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| merlin1991 | well the device is back let's charge a little fail boot repate mode | 11:34 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc I have no backups :/ | 11:36 |
| * merlin1991 headdesks | 11:37 | |
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| dm8tbr | merlin1991: there is also flasher -O wait_charging or sthg like that (check chan logs for details) | 11:41 |
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| merlin1991 | -Owait-charging according to what I found in changlogs | 11:44 |
| merlin1991 | though that option is for flashing | 11:45 |
| merlin1991 | and ofc flasher 3.12.1 treall moe invalid option O | 11:46 |
| merlin1991 | s/treall moe/tells me/ | 11:46 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: and ofc flasher 3.12.1 tells me invalid option O | 11:46 |
| Venemo | guys, you're gonna hate me. | 11:50 |
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| merlin1991 | no change I hate my n9 currently way more :D | 11:51 |
| merlin1991 | s/change/chance/ | 11:51 |
| infobot | merlin1991 meant: no chance I hate my n9 currently way more :D | 11:51 |
| Venemo | I've got the Lumia, and I actually like it! am I a bad person? | 11:51 |
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| merlin1991 | Venemo: I guess so | 11:54 |
| Hq` | I've been using one for a few days too... It's ok, but harmattan is still better | 11:56 |
| Venemo | yeah | 11:59 |
| Venemo | Harmattan is still better, that's true | 11:59 |
| Venemo | but I'd pick WP7 over android/ios any day. | 11:59 |
| merlin1991 | gotta love it, the nokia warranty includes 6 months of warranty for battery, but you can't change it in the n9 | 12:02 |
| Hq` | Venemo: yeah, me too | 12:04 |
| Venemo | :) | 12:04 |
| Aranel_N9 | merlin1991 they'd replace it for you. | 12:04 |
| merlin1991 | in exchange for a service fee, yay for that | 12:04 |
| Teo` | gah how am I supposed to send back the faulty N950 if they won't give me an addres... :-/ | 12:10 |
| Teo` | I've been waiting for a reply from DDP for 3 days now | 12:11 |
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| hiemanshu | Teo`: email em again then :P | 12:14 |
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| Teo` | hiemanshu: yeah I've just done that ;) | 12:19 |
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| Teo` | that cluster of dead pixels has been spreading quite a bit ;_; | 12:19 |
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| hiemanshu | Teo`: yeah it will spread for some time and stop | 12:22 |
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| gri | lol, my app got rejected again for using /usr/lib/AccountSetup and /usr/share/l10n/ | 12:42 |
| merlin1991 | hm /usr/lib/AccountSetup sounds a lil necessary? | 12:46 |
| merlin1991 | and I bet some of that used /user/share/l10n/ ? | 12:46 |
| gri | yes | 12:46 |
| gri | AccountSetup is necessary to provide a ui for accountsetup | 12:46 |
| gri | l10n is necessary for the translation strings in /usr/share/accounts/providers/*.provider | 12:47 |
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| gri | last time I replied them their "list of path name exceptions" is incomplete. They replied with "we will check with the meego team". Now two days later I have no remail reply what the meego team said but simply got qa rejected for the same reason | 12:48 |
| jonni | most likely you could duplicate translation strings into your app dir | 12:48 |
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| gri | hmm? | 12:48 |
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| jonni | and accountsetup will be rejected untill someone would add it to allowed list | 12:49 |
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| jonni | afaik translations can be located anywhere you want | 12:49 |
| gri | well I think the guy who did the qa did not know of the "ask the meego team" | 12:49 |
| jonni | (ie in your app dir) | 12:49 |
| gri | jonni: Nope, the translations of meegotouch have to be in /usr/share/l10n/meegotouch | 12:49 |
| gri | and "Accounts" ui is a meegotouch application | 12:50 |
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| jonni | gri: I though you can add custom paths with qt api's | 12:50 |
| jonni | ie extending the search path | 12:50 |
| gri | well the "Accounts" app is the harmattan system one | 12:50 |
| gri | closed nokia source | 12:50 |
| jonni | but cant you add the path to your plugin, or maybe my brains are just on holiday mood | 12:51 |
| gri | where should I add this path? | 12:51 |
| gri | I feed "Accounts" with a simple xml file | 12:51 |
| gri | no code involved | 12:51 |
| jonni | ah, and you introduce some new strings that need to be translated, ie cannot use existing translations? | 12:52 |
| gri | sure, why should my strings exist in harmattan? | 12:53 |
| gri | they are my own :) | 12:53 |
| jonni | and you cannot change strings to icons which wouldnt need any translations? :) | 12:53 |
| gri | I can only define a <translation>appname</translation> key | 12:53 |
| gri | Sure I can make it untranslated but I want translations! | 12:54 |
| gri | why should I submit crap because ovi qa is too stupid? | 12:54 |
| jonni | ah, or they just dont allow 3rd party account plugins, but hopefully someone from meegoteam will change the policy and add the allow path | 12:54 |
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| gri | I really wonder why they did accept the application once in the store | 12:55 |
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| gri | and now rejected the same package with 2 changed lines of code twice | 12:55 |
| jonni | they got instructions to actually check the debian paths, like my fried got application approved earlied which installed under /usr/bin earlier, and now he got reject on updated version | 12:57 |
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| gri | I hate timezones | 12:58 |
| gri | since the qa team is in vancouver and the meego team in finland I think | 12:58 |
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| gri | so if they ask the meego team back it takes more than a day | 12:58 |
| jonni | I hate 7 days feedbacktime on any small change :) | 12:59 |
| gri | 22 days of hopeless publish tries here | 12:59 |
| gri | I wanted to take part at the "Qt Innovation Challenge" which says the app has to be in the store on 31.12. ... but I think my app won't make it :( | 13:00 |
| jonni | I've never had any rejects yet, just slow approval times. knock the wood :) | 13:01 |
| merlin1991 | n9 still in happy reboot loop, nokia care it is | 13:02 |
| gri | lumia will knock on my door today says dhl | 13:03 |
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| ieatlint | gri: yours shipped? | 13:21 |
| gri | dhl says delivered | 13:21 |
| gri | and signed with my name | 13:21 |
| gri | but I'm not at home | 13:21 |
| SpeedEvil | Woo! | 13:21 |
| ieatlint | i thought i was quick to order, and mine still hasn't been processed at all | 13:21 |
| * SpeedEvil has it! | 13:21 | |
| SpeedEvil | (not really) | 13:21 |
| hiemanshu | SpeedEvil: still not shipped? | 13:21 |
| SpeedEvil | Oh! | 13:21 |
| ieatlint | "New Order" "Last Modified Date: 14.12.2011" | 13:22 |
| * SpeedEvil hasn't checked email today. | 13:22 | |
| gri | the n950 was delivered by dhl and was at the front door of the house | 13:22 |
| SpeedEvil | Dear Customer, our order has been sent on 22.12.2011. Please see the order information below. Order: OID-060197 | 13:22 |
| hiemanshu | SpeedEvil: WTF | 13:22 |
| gri | it seems the dhl guy did again sign by himself and put it somewhere in the garden (it's raining) | 13:22 |
| hiemanshu | still not sent for me, and I am at 160 | 13:22 |
| SpeedEvil | This morning, 1 hour ago | 13:22 |
| ieatlint | yeah, my order is 060183, you theiving bastard | 13:22 |
| ieatlint | you stole our places in line | 13:22 |
| hiemanshu | ieatlint: lets kill SpeedEvil | 13:22 |
| ieatlint | and you will pay | 13:22 |
| gri | mine was 060054 | 13:22 |
| ieatlint | you will suffer wp7 longer than any of us | 13:23 |
| hiemanshu | ieatlint: if its suffering, then send me your Lumia lol :P | 13:23 |
| ieatlint | i don't rightly know yet :P | 13:23 |
| ieatlint | i do have a morbid curiosity | 13:23 |
| SpeedEvil | I promise not to sell it on ebay, and I might do something with it that doesn't involve dropping it from 100000 feet. | 13:24 |
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| SpeedEvil | (though that'd be kinda cool and might not be percieved as negative by them, if done right) | 13:24 |
| ieatlint | my plan was just to take the silicone case it came with and trade it with the one on my n9 so i can take videos of people without that pesky amber light | 13:24 |
| SpeedEvil | Pervert! | 13:25 |
| SpeedEvil | I note that I duct taped my n950 yesterday for that very purpose. | 13:25 |
| hiemanshu | lol | 13:25 |
| ieatlint | pervert... naturally | 13:25 |
| ieatlint | but so long as i do it from public property, it's legal where i live | 13:26 |
| arekinath | do all the children keep asking their parents questions about what the red light means? | 13:26 |
| ieatlint | no, but they're curious about that hand in my pocket | 13:27 |
| SpeedEvil | I was actually taping someone that came to my house. | 13:27 |
| SpeedEvil | In order to have evidence, if required about what I said to them. | 13:27 |
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| ieatlint | my gf has repeatedly borrowed my n8 to secretly record things actually | 13:28 |
| ieatlint | SpeedEvil: if it's an actual legal matter, save yourself the trouble by not mentioning it here :P | 13:28 |
| arekinath | SpeedEvil: be careful with that, in some jurisdictions, recording a conversation where the person would have reasonable expectation of privacy can be inadmissible in a legal setting. ianal | 13:28 |
| SpeedEvil | ieatlint: This particular act was legal. | 13:28 |
| ieatlint | i've been in a lawsuit.. the fewer people involved with any info the better | 13:29 |
| SpeedEvil | I checked. | 13:29 |
| Richlv | ugh, hadn't noticed that silly light. can it be just disabled ? | 13:29 |
| ieatlint | Richlv: i think it might actually be done by the camera module itself | 13:29 |
| ieatlint | so realistic answer: no | 13:29 |
| rwhitby | nothing a very small drill won't fix | 13:30 |
| Richlv | well, the flash leds themselves can be controlled as evident by the flashlight apps... | 13:30 |
| ieatlint | rwhitby: but then no flash or light | 13:30 |
| Tronic | On N900 at least the recording light can be controlled. | 13:30 |
| SpeedEvil | ieatlint: It's not | 13:30 |
| Tronic | I am pretty sure that on N9 as well, probably handled via the same register as the flash leds. | 13:31 |
| ieatlint | nice then | 13:31 |
| SpeedEvil | ieatlint: It's similar to on the n900 - it's a video4linux control on the camera interface | 13:31 |
| ieatlint | perhaps in the future i won't need tape to facilitate my secret recordings | 13:31 |
| SpeedEvil | - well - at lower level, it isn't - but that's what it is to the medium layers. | 13:31 |
| SpeedEvil | It's not hardware | 13:31 |
| ieatlint | the flash i knew was on phone firmware | 13:31 |
| ieatlint | but i had actually guessed that the firmware on the camera module would control the red/amber recording led | 13:32 |
| Richlv | i don't plan any secret recording, i just don't like silly lights & sounds :) | 13:32 |
| ieatlint | i agree with the latter part of that | 13:32 |
| ieatlint | and it's 100% legal here to have no sound or light | 13:33 |
| Tronic | In Finland secret recording even in private spaces is permitted, if you are there yourself. The idea goes that if you can see/hear something, you may also record it without telling the others. | 13:33 |
| Tronic | Same for telephone calls. | 13:33 |
| ieatlint | and here it's a crime to record a phone call with someone without their knowledge | 13:33 |
| SpeedEvil | Here, only if you're not one party | 13:34 |
| Tronic | ieatlint: Yes, it appears to be so in many places. | 13:34 |
| ieatlint | but i don't have to be present to record people secretly -- so long as it's my property or public property, and the subject doesn't have a reasonable expectation of privacy | 13:34 |
| ieatlint | ie, toilet no, open window yes | 13:34 |
| Tronic | That's why older Nokia phones would beep every few seconds when recording. | 13:34 |
| ieatlint | i know i had to change my n8 software to another product code to allow me to disable the picture capture sound :( | 13:36 |
| Richlv | on this n9 i just removed some wavs :) | 13:37 |
| Richlv | and if sound is turned all the way down, that also removes camera sounds | 13:37 |
| ieatlint | on the n9 it doesn't make noise if the phone is in silent mode | 13:37 |
| ieatlint | yeah | 13:37 |
| Richlv | but i still liked the feeling of removing those files | 13:37 |
| ieatlint | yeah, i'll probably do the same | 13:37 |
| gri | my video camera also has no lights or sound | 13:38 |
| ieatlint | also, entirely off-topic, but i just drove 700km to get home and now i have beer | 13:39 |
| * ieatlint is having a good day | 13:39 | |
| * Richlv tries to find some other camera app to figure out whether lights go on with it as well | 13:39 | |
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| ajalkane | Hallelujah. Santa Nokia gave me a replacement N950 for the dead-pixel mess that I had | 13:43 |
| ieatlint | just wait though, nokia is going to demand all those n950s back next month | 13:45 |
| hiemanshu | ajalkane: I still have to send in mine | 13:45 |
| ieatlint | (this is how rumours start :) | 13:45 |
| macmaN | lol | 13:45 |
| ajalkane | ieatlint: oh, so that we can concentrate on WP development on the Lumias? :) | 13:45 |
| macmaN | thanks for making me bring up irssi thanks to that highlight | 13:46 |
| ieatlint | exactly | 13:46 |
| ajalkane | hiemanshu: you should... who knows how long their N950 batch lasts | 13:46 |
| hiemanshu | ajalkane: I dont have extra phones to do, but I'll do it after new years now | 13:46 |
| ieatlint | what's wrong with your n950 hiemanshu? | 13:47 |
| Richlv | hrm. failed to find any other app that could use camera for video | 13:47 |
| ieatlint | certainly seems like there's a noticeable failure rate on these | 13:47 |
| hiemanshu | dead pixel mass in the middle of the screen | 13:47 |
| hiemanshu | that grew for a few days at a significant rate, and its still growing now, slowly thouhg | 13:47 |
| ieatlint | ouch | 13:48 |
| ajalkane | hiemanshu: yeah it's hard to part with it. I had it easy as I live near where they're supposed to be returned, so I just went there and got replacement on the spot. | 13:49 |
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| hiemanshu | ajalkane: aah | 13:50 |
| ieatlint | so how easily can you bribe those people then? | 13:50 |
| ajalkane | They were nice and friendly, but I didn't get the feeling they were looking for bribes :) | 13:52 |
| hiemanshu | ajalkane: then try and get one more :P | 13:53 |
| Richlv | oh, btw, i couldn't get something like http://forums.internettablettalk.com/showthread.php?t=72419 to work on n9 - what did i do wrong ? | 13:55 |
| ieatlint | Richlv: you assumed the n900 and the n9 were compatible | 13:56 |
| Richlv | i stopped doing that some time ago ;) | 13:57 |
| Richlv | but i still hoped there would be similarities | 13:57 |
| ieatlint | i think qtmobility might actually be able to offer some of that functionality though | 13:57 |
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| auenf | accuweather ad fail | 14:08 |
| auenf | aparently i have won a free ipad 2 | 14:08 |
| auenf | but i have to 'click here to claim' | 14:09 |
| auenf | how do i click on a touch phone? | 14:09 |
| hiemanshu | haha | 14:09 |
| ieatlint | dude, you're so lucky | 14:09 |
| ieatlint | all my friends have won ipad 2s... one even was selected to beta test the ipad 3 from an ad | 14:10 |
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| merlin1991 | jonni: care took it without asking :) | 14:19 |
| Pali | ping X-Fade | 14:20 |
| jonni | merlin1991: good :) | 14:22 |
| merlin1991 | Now 7 to 10 days, suuure with all the christmas business :) | 14:28 |
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| gri | lumia is black if one is interested in that | 14:45 |
| auenf | black is the new ??? | 14:52 |
| auenf | btw, is "open sms notifications with web2sms" broken in the broken version? | 14:53 |
| gri | it only works when the program is running | 14:54 |
| RST38h | gri; And how is it, otherwise? | 14:55 |
| gri | RST38h: ? | 14:55 |
| RST38h | the lumia, I mean | 14:56 |
| gri | I haven't turned it on | 14:56 |
| gri | still in the plastic cover | 14:56 |
| auenf | trying to work out how to fit all the n950 bits inside it? | 14:56 |
| gri | no, I will give the pleasure to start it to my girlfriend | 14:57 |
| merlin1991 | Even though the harmattan browser sucks it's still better than microb | 14:57 |
| DocScrutinizer51 | not really | 14:57 |
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| gri | auenf: you can also have a unbroken version if you tell me which provider you want to use :) | 14:58 |
| auenf | exetel | 14:58 |
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| gri | ok, we were not able to verify exetel working so you could test that for us (yet none of the providers worked at the first try) | 14:59 |
| Richlv | ieatlint, hrm, can qtmobility be queried from the cli ? i don't think there's a shiny app for that yet | 14:59 |
| l32606 | hi guys, anyone know how to make N9 vibrate using d-bus? | 15:00 |
| npm | i have a dumb question regarding gstreamer -- I setup a way of inline converting media formats before sending over network -- but it sends over network at original audio playback rate... i want it sent as fast as possible... how?? | 15:00 |
| auenf | it wasnt working the other day, came up with a message saying i was using a broken version | 15:00 |
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| npm | and nothing in http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/data/doc/gstreamer/head/gst-plugins-base-libs/html/gst-plugins-base-libs-appsink.html suggests why introducing 'appsink' would do this | 15:02 |
| l32606 | "req_vibrator_pattern_activate" doesn't work, but it's ok with my N900. | 15:02 |
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| Elleo | npm: at a guess you might need to set the sync property to false | 15:02 |
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| npm | (other than that, i just got the hard part of http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=36585&postcount=10 working :-) ) | 15:02 |
| Elleo | otherwise I believe it'll keep to the playback clock | 15:03 |
| npm | Elleo: thanks | 15:03 |
| Elleo | npm: voice2goog is cool by the way :) | 15:03 |
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| * npm finds http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Example_GStreamer_Pipelines | 15:05 | |
| npm | Elleo: thanks! | 15:05 |
| npm | although this current feature isn't anything anybody wants, it is infrastructure that i've alwayys wanted... | 15:08 |
| npm | and yes the sync property seems to be the key | 15:08 |
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| * npm because every phone needs it's own webserver built in, of course.... :-) | 15:18 | |
| npm | well other than coredumping, that went perfectly | 15:19 |
| npm | oh actually it's fine | 15:20 |
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| * npm wow i can't believe it works :-) | 15:21 | |
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| Elleo | npm: cool :) | 15:23 |
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| jonni | l32606: you can just use Qt mobility feedback api to activate vibra, no need for d-bus. | 15:28 |
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| l32606 | jonni, feedback does work! Thank you. | 15:37 |
| Richlv | is there some intro in using that api from the cli ? | 15:39 |
| l32606 | Richlv, the api is for c++, not for shell... | 15:46 |
| Richlv | right, but maybe there is some cli tool to send queries to it ? | 15:47 |
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| l32606 | i think there should be. | 15:52 |
| l32606 | but i don't found it | 15:52 |
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| ajalkane | Funny... after reflashing the new N950, and restoring backups, the MTF accounts don't work anymore. Not even if I re-enter the password | 16:13 |
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| ajalkane | Seems like reboot cured it | 16:26 |
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| warp_ | hi | 16:59 |
| warp_ | does anyone know how to make remote valgrind works with n9? im getting the following error : http://pastebin.com/c3FfR3QG | 17:00 |
| warp_ | this is the configuration im using http://pastebin.com/MFaBFJJJ | 17:02 |
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| RST38h | The Boeing 747 Airborne Laser project has been mothballed despite successfully destroying a ballistic missile and other targets. | 20:07 |
| RST38h | WHAT? NO LASER? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH | 20:07 |
| RST38h | Also see: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/22/lumia_sales/ | 20:08 |
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| ZogG_laptop | RST38h: i like you injections of news =) | 20:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | hm nokia suits beta is out | 20:19 |
| * RST38h throws up at the mention of Nokia Suite | 20:19 | |
| ZogG_laptop | interesting - does it support N9 | 20:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | i wouldn't bother to boot into windows to check and jus find out it doesn't | 20:19 |
| daniel_o | for testing i have to delete the n9 first, right? | 20:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop | delete n9? | 20:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | daniel_o: what do you mean by delete? | 20:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | >>... Starting 11 January 2012, the Nokia Lumia 710 phone will be available in the United States at T-Mobile retail stores, at selected dealers and retailers, and online. The phone will sell for $49.99 after a $50 mail-in rebate and with a two-year plan.<< | 20:28 |
| daniel_o | ZogG_laptop: from the nokia suite.. | 20:28 |
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| ajalkane | Lumia 710 is SOOOOO beatiful! Great way to enter USA! | 20:35 |
| hiemanshu | but 800 is better! | 20:35 |
| ajalkane | I was just sarcastic. I think 710 is ugly, 800 looks great and should have been introduced instead | 20:36 |
| luke-jr | Does N9[50] use phonet? | 20:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | daniel_o: if you have support, do not update as they deleted support from certain version | 20:37 |
| ajalkane | I hope someone figures out a way to install Mer to 800 :) | 20:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | hmm TalkBox on n9 ) | 20:37 |
| daniel_o | yeah i installed Nokia Ovi Suite 3.0.0.290 first, n9 works, then updated to nokia suite 3.2.100 or sth.. still works :) | 20:38 |
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| ZogG_laptop | daniel_o: i don't use windows almost at all so don't care =) | 20:40 |
| daniel_o | i use it, but i don't like ovi suite :D so i don't really care too :D | 20:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | luke-jr: phonet0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 15-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 | 20:47 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: can you test gps2 on it plz? ☺ | 20:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | how would I do that? | 20:47 |
| luke-jr | wget http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/gps2 && chmod +x gps2 && ./gps2 | 20:48 |
| luke-jr | easiest way | 20:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm, I doubt this will work, but I'll give it a try as it's c&p ;-D | 20:48 |
| luke-jr | :P | 20:48 |
| luke-jr | I'm basically trying to answer the question "is this protocol common for all phonet phones, all Nokia phones, or just N900?" | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | sh: ./gps2: Operation not permitted | 20:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# ./gps2 | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | gps2: gps2.c:90: main: Assertion `sck >= 0' failed. | 20:50 |
| luke-jr | sudo? | 20:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | Aborted (core dumped) | 20:50 |
| luke-jr | blah | 20:50 |
| luke-jr | DRM? | 20:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | devel-su, not sudo | 20:51 |
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| luke-jr | that assertion is a simple "open phonet socket" :| | 20:51 |
| luke-jr | I'm assuming you have the cellmo running/online | 20:51 |
| luke-jr | DocScrutinizer: is it possible to bypass the DRM? | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://paste.debian.net/149961/ | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | hah, no, I got nop SIM | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | no SIM | 20:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | nevertheless I guess that's not the cause | 20:54 |
| luke-jr | I don't know anything about N9 DRM :/ | 20:54 |
| luke-jr | http://luke.dashjr.org/tmp/code/initcellmo *might* help if you get past the DRM issue, but this one is a lot more likely to be N900-specific so unlikely to work on other stuff | 20:55 |
| luke-jr | I suppose firing up the N9's GPS would do the init too | 20:55 |
| luke-jr | might have to reboot later if liblocation and gps2 try to do the same thing tho | 20:56 |
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| artemma | I am googling for how you get started with Qt autotesting and fail to find a tutorial or simple project to start from. Please, advise something | 22:24 |
| artemma | I know how to use testlib itself and I am able to create and run tests for my classes. I am looking for the proper project structure and for info on how to use it with qmake/make | 22:25 |
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| javispedro | turns out I dislike PenTile... | 23:17 |
| javispedro | read on XDA someone asking whether the Lumia also had a bluish tint when viewed from an angle like the N9, and someone else answering "no". | 23:19 |
| javispedro | either this Lumia is defective, XDA is filled with idiots, or with fanboys that outright lie =) | 23:20 |
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| marsje | how can I restart the sshd daemon on the N9? | 23:36 |
| daniel_o | it was sth like: tkill -o sshd | 23:37 |
| daniel_o | but let me check :D | 23:37 |
| ajalkane | artemma: I don't have a good solution for unit testing with qmake, but this was my compromise between simplicity and doing tests: http://meegoharmattandev.blogspot.com/2011/11/simple-c-unittests-with-qtcreator.html | 23:38 |
| marsje | yeah, check, before I kill someone :) | 23:38 |
| ajalkane | I'm also interested in seeing a proper way to do unit tests. | 23:38 |
| artemma | ajalkane: I pretty much ended up copying qt source structure | 23:38 |
| artemma | not super happy, but progressing | 23:38 |
| ajalkane | artemma: okay, was it relatively painless and does it work well? | 23:39 |
| artemma | right now figuring how to make it build tests only when needed and running them via "make check" | 23:39 |
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| artemma | ajalkane: my mileage is some 30-40 min only | 23:39 |
| daniel_o | pkill -o sshd | 23:40 |
| artemma | so far, ok. Biggest clash with my views in that you need to build a parallel hierarchy of tests next to src | 23:40 |
| daniel_o | marsje: that's the correct one | 23:40 |
| artemma | I prefer having tests as a subdir of sources | 23:40 |
| ajalkane | artemma: okay cool, thanks, doesn't sound too bad, I have to take a look | 23:40 |
| artemma | oh well, you can have tests as a subdir of sources, but then there were too many .pro file and their name clashes and I m not very experienced with .pro syntax, so I resorted to parallel tests tree | 23:41 |
| marsje | daniel_o: that works, thanks | 23:42 |
| ajalkane | I'm okay with parallel tests trees. As long as I can easily run the tests, and still get the final executable without the tests, it's okay for me | 23:42 |
| marsje | daniel_o: eventhought the outout doing it as "user" is the same as when root (= nothing), it only works as root | 23:42 |
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| daniel_o | marsje: yeah of course.. :) | 23:44 |
| marsje | daniel_o: yeah, of course, but I was expecting some kind of error message when doing it as non-root | 23:45 |
| daniel_o | oh yeah right :D | 23:46 |
| marsje | was trying to enable keepa-lives in sshd to keep my ssh/wifi connection up | 23:47 |
| marsje | but seems it does not work | 23:47 |
| daniel_o | hmm i never played around with that | 23:48 |
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| gabriel9 | hai | 23:48 |
| marsje | I ssh into my N9 over wifi, but after 20 seconds idle my connection is gone :) | 23:48 |
| daniel_o | but wifi is stable? | 23:48 |
| gabriel9 | anyone wish to help to create harmattan sdk package for my distro(archlinux) ? | 23:49 |
| gabriel9 | i just need some advice | 23:49 |
| daniel_o | i used that often, for hours.. and never had disconnects.. even my wifi conncetion isn't the best | 23:49 |
| gabriel9 | i will maintain package and update it | 23:49 |
| marsje | daniel_o: I was stable before, but not anymore... I think since I disabled all accounts on my phone to try to do anything on the network | 23:50 |
| marsje | daniel_o: I was guessing it would disconnect it because it was idle | 23:51 |
| daniel_o | marsje: sounds weird :) | 23:51 |
| marsje | daniel_o: well, I only have it a week and I see many weird things... | 23:52 |
| daniel_o | just to make sure, i try ssh connection now again | 23:52 |
| marsje | also I disabled background connections | 23:52 |
| marsje | so I think, and hope, the phone is being smart and disables the wifi because it's not needed | 23:53 |
| ajalkane | It's funny with this Lumia 800. I don't even care when it arrives. With N950 I was clicking every couple of hours on the posting delivery link to see if it's soming near. But I guess it may whoop me off me feet and I'll be developing on it in no time? :) | 23:53 |
| daniel_o | marsje: hmm on battery safe mode it does | 23:54 |
| marsje | daniel_o: it recharging right now, but battery level is still low | 23:54 |
| marsje | you mean the energy saving mode that starts when the battery is almost empty right? | 23:54 |
| gabriel9 | anyone use Linux for develpment? | 23:55 |
| marsje | gabriel9: I managed to install the SDK this week, but I haven't used it yet. I'm on Xubuntu 11.10 | 23:55 |
| daniel_o | marsje: yeah, but u can change it to always use this mode, or never use this mode | 23:56 |
| jpwhiting | gabriel9: I do here | 23:56 |
| jpwhiting | it works fine with the Qt sdk from the qt.nokia.com website | 23:56 |
| marsje | daniel_o: so it's the combination of wifi being idle and battery almost empty | 23:56 |
| jpwhiting | 1.1.4 | 23:56 |
| daniel_o | could be | 23:56 |
| daniel_o | try | 23:56 |
| gabriel9 | i already have Qt creator | 23:56 |
| marsje | jpwhiting: it does not work that fine for me... installing it was a disaster | 23:56 |
| daniel_o | settings - device - battery | 23:57 |
| jpwhiting | marsje: hit https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/842234 probably? | 23:57 |
| marsje | jpwhiting: but I had to add a command line option to the installer and then it wen much better | 23:57 |
| * jpwhiting changed the qt theme from gtk+ to cleanlooks and it worked fine after that | 23:57 | |
| marsje | jpwhiting: not sure if it's that one, but could be... I got a huge window that did not fit on my screen so I could not press any buttons | 23:58 |
| jpwhiting | marsje: yep, same here | 23:58 |
| jpwhiting | unity hang basically | 23:58 |
| marsje | and at the same time my machine started swapping like crazy making my system unsuable | 23:58 |
| * jpwhiting nods | 23:58 | |
| marsje | I got the same effect when I started the SDK and tried to install the updates | 23:59 |
| marsje | this is how far I got with the SDK so far.. | 23:59 |
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