IRC log of #harmattan for Sunday, 2011-12-04

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djszapiVenemo_N950: o/00:04
Venemohey djszapi :)00:04
VenemoI'm hacking on my IRC client, as usual00:05
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DocScrutinizerMMMPFF >> [...] We have been cooperating with the authorities to identify a possible security breach on the site. Our own investigation shows the site was breached on a number of occasions between August 22, 2011 and November 30, 2011. During this period, information that may have been exposed includes your username, email address and other content you may have uploaded to the site. [...] We have now suspended the http://projects.01:44 site as a precautionary measure, while we conduct further investigations and security assessments [...] <<01:44
VenemoDocScrutinizer, we all got that, yet.01:44
VenemoDocScrutinizer, we all got that, yes01:44
DocScrutinizerthe timespan is ... :-x01:45
DocScrutinizeralso "and other content" is not exactly amusing me01:46
DocScrutinizer>> We do not store any sensitive data such as credit card information, financial data or Social Security numbers on the site. << my delivery addr is no sensitive data, uh?01:48
DocScrutinizermy position, my full name, my age whatnot01:49
Venemoeveryone knows that already01:53
DocScrutinizeramazing how everybody except me knew it 30 min ago01:56
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psycho_oreosahaha this is bloody amusing.. if GPIO 71 (keyboard slide) is not triggered, Fn + Sym/Ctrl would fail to bring up extra sets of virtual keyboard characters.02:00
DocScrutinizerafter all that mail arrived here some 90min ago, and I hope I'm not the one who gets Nokia's mail with 2 days delay02:00
Venemopsycho_oreos, :)02:00
psycho_oreosI actually thought those two were completely unrelated issues. I guess I'm thankful that they are.02:02
DocScrutinizerhmm, what's unrelated?02:03
psycho_oreosoh sh*t, wrong channel lol.. should've gone into #maemo no #harmattan lmfao02:03
psycho_oreosyou know how in x-term for example where you go Fn + Sym/Ctrl on N900, it brings up extra characters such as ` for example. If the GPIO 71 switch is not working (lack of magnet as prescribed) N900 sees slider is closed and it will not trigger extra keyboard symbols no matter what you do02:05
psycho_oreosI thought the extra keyboard symbols thingy was not related to the GPIO 71 not detecting the slider being open.. it automatically assumes that its closed02:07
luke-jrDocScrutinizer: name, address, etc is public info02:07
DocScrutinizer51the link to my mail addt hardly is, nor is my first name any public in the sense you imply02:08
DocScrutinizer51and the addr Nokia got from me differs from what you might get for 'public' addr02:10
DocScrutinizer51which makes it easy for me to sue Nokia when somebody is going to abuse it02:11
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Venemo_N950hey djszapi :)10:55
djszapihuomenta :)10:55
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djszapizz_gri: interesting, most of the account plugins have signon plugin implemented as well. They are not even few lines either.12:26
djszapiyipdw: "they don't include any support for account storage or whatnot" -> you sure ?12:36
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Venemo~seen joppu13:22
infobotjoppu <joppu@> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 23d 26m 18s ago, saying: 'Venemo: on the wiki page, there's an email address to mail the entry to'.13:22
djszapiVenemo: so do you put irc-chatter to ovi store ?13:24
Venemodjszapi, I will, certainly13:24
Venemodjszapi, but the new version still requires some coding and a lot of testing13:25
djszapiVenemo: you can probably integrate an IRC account plugin, too as soon as I am ready with one. :)13:27
djszapithe communication, that is. accounts-qt stuff.13:28
Venemodjszapi, are you working on such a thing?13:28
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Venemodjszapi, I myself am interested in making an account plugin for this, but last time I checked (few months ago), this area was undocumented.13:29
djszapiyes, it is pretty much undocumented.13:30
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MohammadAGOh yeah13:30
djszapiand yes, OCS plugin, and IRC plugins I have been trying to do.13:30
MohammadAGw00t asked us to remind him about some example code two months ago13:30
djszapimaybe google++ later :)13:30
djszapiVenemo: I am lucky in that sense, I have the source code of these things and all the plugins (signon involved).13:31
MohammadAGThats cheating13:31
Venemodjszapi, well, if you manage to make an IRC account plugin, I'm interested in integrating it with my app.13:31
djszapiVenemo: sure, that is why I mentioned.13:32
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djszapiVenemo: but I need other projects as well for Harmattan, like a media player.13:34
Venemodjszapi, what's wrong with da built-in one?13:38
djszapiVenemo: nothing.13:38
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djszapithen why am I planning it ?13:40
Venemoyea, why?13:40
djszapiI would like to test my qtopenal code out so I will write a reference implementation (a.k.a. example). It is mostly for games, but last time I talked to a media player author, and he said it is much easier to use the openal API than any others out there. No callbacks, no zillion dependencies and the like:
Venemomhm :)13:41
djszapiit already handles decoding, so it is in a testable state. I am just extending it with new decoder backends.13:42
MohammadAGLack of playlists13:42
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Venemois it possible to pass custom parameters to dpkg-buildpackage, like variables or stuff like that?13:43
djszapiwhat would you like to pass ?13:43
djszapiMohammadAG: I did make a playlist based on openal13:44
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MohammadAGdjszapi: And it works with mafw?13:44
MohammadAGI need my N950 :/13:45
macmaNdamn MohammadAG13:45
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djszapiMohammadAG: I do not think they have anything to share in common13:45
macmaN#3 hasnt gotten there still?13:45
djszapiit is basically a completely different design from the groun up, like QtOpenGL and QGraphicsView framework.13:46
MohammadAGdjszapi: Exactly mu point13:46
MohammadAGThe built in one has regressions from fremantle13:46
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djszapithat is why you mentioned the playlist ?13:46
djszapiI have a working playlist, at least.13:47
MohammadAGVenemo: djszapi, what's wrong with da built-in one?13:47
MohammadAGI was answering that13:47
Venemofucking scratchbox refuses to connect to the internet13:47
VenemoMohammadAG, yeah I noticed! :) thanks13:47
macmaNMohammadAG: seriously, *i* need you to have your n95013:48
MohammadAGI can have a working playlist with mafw13:48
MohammadAGmacmaN: Got some nukes?13:48
djszapiVenemo: works for me.13:48
Venemodjszapi, apt-get is stuck at "0% [Connecting to]0% [Connecting to]" forever13:48
Venemodjszapi, it also fails to ping any address13:48
djszapiVenemo: weird, works for me.13:49
MohammadAGFix /etc/resolv.conf13:49
MohammadAGSet it to or cp host to sb13:49
djszapiVenemo: I have this in resolv.conf nameserver
Venemoit is set to and
Venemothis is my resolv.conf
MohammadAG70% battery usage in 3 hours13:50
MohammadAGFreakin iphone13:50
Venemo'sudo rm -rf /scratchbox' and reinstalling the platform SDK will help. this is a damn old version anyway.13:51
djszapiVenemo: why scratchbox ? in the first place ? Wasn't the qtsdk your firm belief ? :p13:51
Venemodjszapi, I use scratchbox when I make a package.13:51
djszapiwhy so ?13:51
Venemowell, MADDE in the Qt SDK can also do that, but it's easier in Scratchbox.13:52
djszapibeen saying for half a year :))13:52
MohammadAGunmount before doing that!!!13:52
MohammadAGRemoving /scratchbox can possibly harm your system13:52
Venemowell, I've always agreed on that! that is why I never wanted to create packages with Qt Creator13:52
VenemoMohammadAG, I've stopped sb before doing it13:53
MohammadAGBut you forgot to mention how here13:53
Venemo'sudo /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_ctl stop'13:53
djszapiscratchbox is an awesome stuff13:53
djszapiI am enjoying the same workflow for android13:53
djszapiand will do that probably for tizen as well13:54
djszapiif the Nokia feature phone is linux based, that as well13:54
Venemoscratchbox also works on my ideapad13:54
MohammadAGTizen is the reason i might leave to ios if no decent platforms show up13:54
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Venemoif no decent platform shows up, I'll just go for WP7 (NON-Nokia WP7), but only after my N950 rusts to dust... :P13:55
MohammadAGiOS for me, large application library, developing, or even hacking pays well13:56
MohammadAGAnd tbh id rather go with apple than ms13:58
VenemoC# is more fun to code than Objective-C13:58
MohammadAGiOS can have C/C++ afaik13:58
djszapispeaking of C#, Venemo: I could not port mono yet. There was a compilation error. It would be nice to get it work..13:59
MohammadAGAlso iOS devs are awesome13:59
Venemodjszapi, I've got no experience with porting Mono, unfortunately.13:59
MohammadAGAt least one says the n9 is awesome and actually frequents this channel14:00
djszapithough, glade seemed a bit of more pain than qml14:00
Venemoglade has a better designer IDE than qml14:00
djszapithat is a negative point as well :)14:01
Venemoin any case, I don't see too much future for GNOME-based technology. be it glade or gtk or whatever14:01
MohammadAGLast time i tried the qml designer it sucked14:01
VenemoMohammadAG, yep, I've never bothered to try it :P14:01
MohammadAGI see it almost dead14:01
djszapiwell, it would be nice to see more integration into kdevelop than qtcreator14:02
djszapilet it either madde, or qml designer.14:02
Venemothey should merge those two apps14:02
djszapiVenemo: we tried to tell it to them many times14:02
djszapithey are hilariously stubborn about qtcreator14:02
djszapicode sharing is clearly not their vision just copy pasting forth and back.14:03
VenemoQt Creator is awesome14:03
djszapithey "stole" the C++ parser.14:03
djszapiand do not share many things, so it is almost a nightmare to cooperate with them14:03
Venemoin fact, Qt Creator is the ONLY C/C++ IDE that I can endure working with (besides Visual Studio)14:03
djszapiI dislike their vision because of this closed mentality.14:04
VenemoI tried Anjuta and KDevelop and CodeBlocks, but couldn't endure more than 5 minutes with either of them.14:05
djszapithey will probably steal the cmake implementation as well at some point14:05
Venemothere is no such thing as "stealing" in the free software world14:05
djszapiimho, design qtcreator should have happened completely differently from the beginning14:05
djszapithey should have either established a library for developing IDEs.14:06
VenemoI, myself, also "stole" some code from Konversation. its authors were more than happy to share their code. :)14:06
djszapiand since the kdevelop guys had a lot of knowledge about this. That would have been the bare minimum14:06
djszapiand sadly, my friend tried it from the kdevelop project to talk to them, but they were completely stubborn about this cooperation.14:06
Venemothat's sad.14:07
djszapiimho, the qtcreator development is based on wrong decision from the beginning.14:07
djszapisadly, they did not refactor it completely for the second major version either...14:08
Venemodat's because the second "major" version was just a marketing decision.14:08
djszapiI know the reasons. Completely insane.14:09
Venemowell anyway, it's software that worksforme. so I use it. :)14:09
djszapiahh discussing qtcreator is such a sad matter to me ...14:09
Venemodjszapi, once my sbox installation is complete, are you interested in trying a prerelease package of the new irc-chatter?14:13
djszapiyes, but unsure when I can find the time for that.14:14
Venemowell, just install it and use it whenever you're on your N9 :P if it crashes or does something weird, just tell me about it14:14
djszapiokie dokie14:16
djszapimmm....libsndfile cannot really use libvorbisidec...that is not nice.14:28
djszapiI wonder if it is just a harmattan packager mistake, or libsndfile software limitation.14:28
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djszapiMohammadAG: so what regression does the playlist have in MAFW ?14:34
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djszapifaenil: o/14:46
faenillo :)14:47
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MohammadAGdjszapi: UX, not mafw15:00
djszapiwhat is the precise regression ?15:01
MohammadAGYou cant make playlists15:01
MohammadAGTheres no now playing playlist15:02
MohammadAGThe latter is the same on iOs but you can create and edit playlists15:02
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VenemoZogG_laptop, ping15:11
faenilanyone who can help with a gl context matter?15:17
faenil(I have already asked on qt-3d)15:17
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djszapifaenil: #opengl15:19
faenilbut it's more of a Qt thing...I think QDeclarativeItem somehow disables my context, or smthg like that15:20
faenilanyway, I'll try there too...15:20
djszapithen #qt15:20
faenilright, I'll try in both ;)15:20
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nealradiofree: I've done some reading about contextkit and it sounds like what I want.  I see that it is accessible via dbus, however, the root object doesn't announce any children nodes.  Do you know how to figure out what objects it provides?17:39
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Sazpaimon__fennec 11 completely OBLITERATES my battery on my N917:51
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M4rtinKanyone using PySide Assistant to build packages ? :)18:39
thpM4rtinK: got a question about it?18:47
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M4rtinKthp: does it handle changelogs in some way ?18:52
M4rtinKI've been using py2deb previously and there was an options for inputting the changelog message directly to the build script18:53
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M4rtinKso does PySide Assistant also handle changelogs somehow or do I need to use some of the underlying tools ?18:59
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thpM4rtinK: i'm not sure about the changelog19:02
thpM4rtinK: but apparently stdeb can't yet handle custom changelogs, so it might not be possible19:03
thpM4rtinK: what you can do, however, is just create a debian source package, extract it (dpkg-source -x <filename>.dsc) and then modify debian/changelog and "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b" it to create the binary package w/ your custom changelog19:04
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M4rtinKthp: Thanks ! :) I'm using a custom package creation script anyway (it clones the sources from git, runs PySide Assistant a then it should update the package in OBS) so a few extra steps should not be a problem :)19:12
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bemascDoes anyone know how to make "Applications > SDK Connectivity" appear in PR1.1b2 on an N950?19:26
bemascI have developer mode enabled, I'm in SDK mode ... but "SDK Connectivity" is not listed under "Applications"19:26
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npm" - - [04/Dec/2011 09:27:07] "GET /20110803_007.mp4 HTTP/1.1" 200 21190117 18.255"19:28
npmexperiment was a success :-)19:28
bemascoh ... I guess it's just on the main screen now19:29
npmso if a Qt app pops open a webserver socket at a random port like 4567, apparently it can be read off one's workstation as a webpage (after installing my app): " - - [04/Dec/2011 09:28:11] "GET /20110803_007.mp4 HTTP/1.1" 200 21190117 19.777"19:31
npmwould not running in developer mode add some kind of firewall that would prevent my access to http://n950:4567/20110803_007.mp4 from my local network?19:32
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npm for details19:39
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djszapiVenemo_N950: hi, sorry but no time for testing.20:08
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Venemo_N950djszapi, no problem20:29
ZogG_laptopX-Fade: ping20:41
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N950: i got qtcreator from site and in design it doesn't render everything properly20:41
Venemo_N950ZogG_laptop, what is "in design"?20:42
ZogG_laptopso damn F#$% nokia, why wouldn't they do proper packages to install separetly on any system20:42
ZogG_laptopdesinging tool20:42
ZogG_laptopit doesn't show things properly20:42
ZogG_laptoplemme show you20:42
Venemo_N950you mean the qml designer?20:44
Venemo_N950I've never tried it20:44
Venemo_N950but... ZogG_laptop, I have good news for you :)20:45
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N950: icr-chatter in
ZogG_laptopzogg@localhost ~ $ n9imgur 2011-12-04-224512_1600x900_scrot.png20:46
Venemo_N950ZogG_laptop, no, but check your tweets20:46
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ZogG_laptopVenemo_N950: you check yours!!!! =P20:51
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N950: but i need designer as i'm stuck with gui20:52
ZogG_laptopVenemo_N950: i started small project and it's not that hard, but i don't know how to get basic UI for it20:53
djszapidesigners are for weaks :P20:53
* djszapi hides20:53
* ZogG_laptop takes out djszapi and pees on him20:53
ZogG_laptopfeel warmer? =)20:53
Stskeepspeeing on people isn't cool, unless it's consentual20:55
ZogG_laptopStskeeps: hey, it's winter. i'm helping poor guy20:56
ZogG_laptopgonna bug wazd over jabber =)20:56
ZogG_laptopto teach me dzen of design20:56
ZogG_laptopi think battery life got worse in pr1.1 comparing to pr1.020:57
bemasccan anyone point me to an explanation of how dependency management is handled with the Nokia App store and Qt SDK?20:59
bemascIf I have some debs that I need to depend on, how can I make sure that they get bundled into my SDK project/App?21:00
ZogG_laptopis there any option to add item to top popup menu?21:00
djszapithis is one way.21:00
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ZogG_laptopVenemo_N950: it's funny but it doesn't giive me to download file, wrong type it says. but it's fine, i'll try to wget it as soon as i'll charge phone21:01
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: you got it was just not funny joke and not trying to insult you right?21:02
Venemo_N950ZogG_laptop, download on your laptop, copy to phone21:03
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ZogG_laptopVenemo_N950: alright, still after charging. waiting for my friend to come over so i don't need to get out of sofa(it's cold and i'm under blanket21:07
ZogG_laptopso he would bring cabel =P21:07
djszapifaenil: o/21:08
ZogG_laptopfound fake n921:08
ZogG_laptoplooks almost like real one21:08
ZogG_laptop - here21:08
djszapiI wonder who does not know this link yet21:08
ZogG_laptopdjszapi: eople without internet?21:09
BluesLeeis there a working qmlviewer package for harmattan?21:09
faenillo djszapi :)21:09
djszapiBluesLee: yes, I made one21:09
RST38hZogG: enjoying your fake N9?21:10
BluesLeedjszapi: i found one here but it has different dependencies
RST38hAnyone knows what the story about AppsForMeego AppManager is?21:11
BluesLeedjszapi: where i can find your deb?21:11
RST38hIt now installs TWO icons into the menu, one of them is a huge download icon that does not work21:11
BluesLeedjszapi:  can you share it?21:11
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djszapiVenemo_N950: your irc-chatter application does not work me at all. "Connecting, please wait" 3.5G here, and working internet connection21:12
djszapiI am using joikuspot for getting internet to my laptop, but it should not be a harm :)21:13
djszapiBluesLee: interesting, I forgot to share it to the community repository when I did it half a year ago21:14
djszapibut I would not share it anyway21:14
djszapisince I helped with that qmlviewer packaging available in the "official" repository, so just use that one21:15
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djszapiit would be deleted from the community repository to not duplicate packages, after all21:15
BluesLeedjszapi: "official" repo? i did a "apt-cache search qmlviewer" but i found nothing21:16
BluesLeedjszapi: that is the same package i mentioned above21:17
djszapiyes, you should use that.21:17
djszapiif buggy, open up a report.21:17
djszapiwe will not duplicate the efforts.21:17
djszapiI do not see why it would be buggy though.21:18
BluesLeenot really buggy, the package depends on some older ones, apt-get refuses to remove other apps whe installing the above package21:19
djszapi21:16 < BluesLee> djszapi: "official" repo? i did a "apt-cache search qmlviewer" but i found nothing -> I recommend adding the Nokia repository to your source list.21:19
djszapi(as the landing page says)21:19
djszapiecho 'deb ./' >>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/nicks.list21:20
BluesLeedjszapi: okay, official=official dev21:23
djszapihard to say anything without seeing the error output.21:23
djszapino, official as in official public SDK21:23
djszapithere are things there that a user could install for user usage without any developments, but anyway, playing with names is not the point here.21:24
djszapiVenemo_N950: still at that phase :/21:28
djszapiVenemo_N950: I cannot connect to any channels on freenode at least.21:29
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M4rtinKI'm confused - what's the icon size for Harmattan ?21:37
M4rtinKIn N9 Icon guide, its 64*6421:37
M4rtinKjavispedros icon generator outputs 80*8021:38
djszapibe fine with javispedro's icon generator what I mean :)21:38
M4rtinKand apps formeego client has a 80*80 icon in the 64*64 folder :)21:38
djszapiuh that is nasty...21:38
M4rtinKbut IMHO the base64 encoded icon should be 64*64 ?21:39
rcgM4rtinK: its 80x80.. the base64 one is 64x6421:39
M4rtinKok :)21:39
djszapi80x80 is really okay..21:39
M4rtinKbtw, PySide Assitant is broken - the default path for the main icon points to the 64x64 folder21:40
Ans5ii've been wondering how badly it would break if the icon would be bigger21:41
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Venemo_N950djszapi, hmmm?21:54
djszapiVenemo_N950: n-o-t w-o-r-k-i-n-g :)21:55
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BluesLeedjszapi: just a stupid questions concerning the repos, i was talking of harmattan on the n9 not n950 but this should make no real difference or?21:56
djszapino. they even use the same kernel.21:56
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djszapibut on userspace side, should be no difference.21:56
BluesLeedjszapi: i guess that some apps like the qmlviewer are easier to use on an n950 because of the available stylus and the screen difference21:58
djszapiavailable stylus ?21:58
BluesLeeokay, that means there is no n950 stylus:-)21:58
djszapiI have never seen21:59
djszapiand I tried the N900 stylus one and half a years ago without success22:00
djszapifor obvious reasons though22:00
M4rtinKI have heard sausages can be used as a stylus on capacitive screens :)22:01
djszapiopen source, community sausage ?22:02
BluesLeedamn, i was completely wrong22:02
kimjuthere are several capacitive ts compatible aftermarket styluses available.22:06
djszapiI would probably never use those though22:07
kimjuand latest fashion statement seems to be gloves with capacitive compatible finger tips :)22:08
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dm8tbryeah, verkkokauppa has them on sale I hear...22:11
jonnithere is stylus for n950&n9, same stylys that works on ipad2, works also on harmattan22:12
jonnidealextreme has ipad stylyses starting from 1e22:12
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M4rtinKkimju: I have such gloves - quite handy in the winter :)22:28
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sledgesgot this buggy N9, would like to make a full backup, reflash and compare what was different to find the culprit (PR1.1, Facebook crashing after one-off download news feed since 2days ago, web browser crashing occasionaly, always when browse
sledgeswhat could you best suggest for a full dd backup? tarring over nfs could go best?23:20
dm8tbruse the backup tool included23:22
sledgesit just backed-up 32MB worth of data, i suspect whole / being flashed wrong somewhere.. or buggy hardware (:()23:23
dm8tbryes that's all your settings etc23:24
dm8tbrnow backup the contents of mass storage and you're good23:24
dm8tbrthe only thing you have to do manually afterwards is installing nokia store apps23:25
Ans5isledges: better to test without apps first23:25
sledgesjust left terminal on tail -f /var/log/syslog and it crashed when i came back :)23:26
sledgesin the sense, it did not see among opened programs anymore, isn't it persistent?23:27
sledges(opened programs i refer to where its written "nothing opened yet")23:28
sledgesyup, it's not persistent..23:28
dm8tbrdepends if you swipe it away23:29
dm8tbrif so, in which direction do you swipe?23:29
sledgesdm8tbr: across (when holding portrait)23:30
sledgesok, found the facebook error: guys help me :)23:30
sledgesFacebook[2242]: Warning-X Error: Bad Damage23:31
fralsthats not what making it crash23:31
sledges(invalid Damage parameter) 153 Extension: 146 Minor opcode: 2 (Unknown request) Resource id 0x2923:31
Ans5ixdamage seems culprit23:31
fralscan you pastebin a full syslog when its crashing?23:32
sledgesand before and after i get signond QDbus* problems23:32
sledgesok, I'll try to pastebin it23:32
dm8tbrhint '>/home/user/Mydocs/foo.txt'23:32
sledgesdm8tbr: thanks for the hint, I love riddles :)23:34
dm8tbrtail -f syslog >...23:35
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sledgesfrals, dm8tbr, Ans5i:
dm8tbrlooks like account storage went south?23:45
sledges:{ all my experience with FB was to log-in, get the news feed and i never could return there without a crash. I click on FB app in the home screen, blank window appears with FB logo on top, starts loading, shows the news feed text for 1ms and then quits (crashes)23:47
sledgeslikewise Refresh on the dashboard or attempts to share things via Facebook would similarly fail23:47
sledgesok, so shall I re-add the account ?23:47
dm8tbryou can try that23:49
dm8tbralthough a reflash might be necessary23:49
sledgeswell, we could reflash and forget about it, if it works ;) but me being scrupulous would go for the backup-and-meld thereafter :)23:50
dm8tbrrestoring data from backup may or may not work, trying out will show23:50
sledgesbut i backuped just now, so t might just do the borking on top of it23:51
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dm8tbrbtw: don't forget to move the backup off the device it's in .backups as seen over usb23:51
sledgesyup, ta!23:52
sledgeshere's the plan: now i'll re-add the fb account, see if it works. if not, then will do factory reset, and retest again. ultimate test will be to reflash..23:53
DocScrutinizer51dm8tbr: would it be possible to restore a paegified file to same inode and all? I guess no way23:54
Ans5ifacebook might be not be a actual culprit, looks more like signond stuff. reflashing/resetting hopefully helps23:54
sledgespity I can't reproduce google maps web crash, it just gets irresponsive for the maps part of the page, when i view the full version (prolly to much JS chewy for N9..)23:54
dm8tbrDocScrutinizer51: what's the 'p' stand for?23:54
DocScrutinizer51well, maybe we could build an app to restore and rehash all those files23:56
sledgesBTW: after I enabled Developer Mode, it every N minutes asks me to "Sign in to" and username and password - is it to the Nokia Devs accounts? :) as ti does not say where to sign in23:56
DocScrutinizer51or a daemon that constantly updates hashes23:56
DocScrutinizer51so a safe revert to secure mode from open mode was possible23:57
dm8tbrsledges: that's a sure sign of b0rked aegisfs23:57
* dm8tbr has this too on his device23:57
DocScrutinizer51otoh what's protecting the refhashlist?23:57
DocScrutinizer51I gather an empty list would mean "no files hashchecked. No MALF"23:58
sledgesdm8tbr: greatiness, thanks! Ok then, last question before I sign-off to delve into reflashing: is there a low-level access to reflashing facilites from Linux? I got daily experience in U-Boot and UART flashing, NAND erase and write etc, so would be nice to have all in control even with N9.23:59
sledgess/UART/via UART/23:59
dm8tbrit's called 'flasher'23:59
dm8tbrworks over usb23:59

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